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Speaker 1: It is Monday, October twelve. This is Jet Bars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: kicker J Negative. That's that is not not true. Welcome

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Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on

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Speaker 1: this Monday, j P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli coming up.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's on the program today and a full review

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Speaker 1: of the Jaguars Texans game yesterday at NRG Stadium thirty

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Speaker 1: fourteen the final. The Texans get their first win of

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Speaker 1: the year. The offense struggled yesterday, Yes they did. They

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Speaker 1: were two or four in red zone and then that

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Speaker 1: doesn't count another one where they reached the twenty one

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Speaker 1: yard line and didn't come away with points. The defense

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Speaker 1: played pretty well through three quarters and seemed to run

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Speaker 1: out of gas and the fourth. We'll get to social

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Speaker 1: questions in the second hour. We'll go around the National

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Speaker 1: Football League UH Pete Tony for the Elias Sports Bureau.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars are the first team in NFL history to

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Speaker 1: lose three consecutive games to winless teams, excluding the season opener.

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Speaker 1: Happy Monday. How are we doing? Yeah, JP, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure that's really how I want to start the show. Um, well, reality, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it was when you fix your earpots. I

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Speaker 1: mean they really bothered them. They stick out, like it's

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Speaker 1: like the most annoying thing I'm gonna do. You want

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Speaker 1: Menna do like you and dug my head like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: at least he's done on this phone, Like somebody on

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Speaker 1: this show so annoying. You're so annoying an individual. Sometimes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not a great stat I think, you know the last

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Speaker 1: you know, we've had backback years with bad stats. I

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Speaker 1: think last year was like five games in a row

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Speaker 1: like the worst you know, margin to the feed or

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Speaker 1: something crazy like that. This year it's three trade teams

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Speaker 1: getting their first win, not including the opening weekend, and

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Speaker 1: so those are stats that you don't want, I mean

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Speaker 1: as a franchise. And it's back to back years. And

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Speaker 1: it was a bad game, you know. And it's not

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Speaker 1: like the Houston Texas or a good football team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Pete and I said it all week and it was

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Speaker 1: confirmed me watching tape and it was confirmed watching them

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Speaker 1: on the field. That's that It's not like that's a

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Speaker 1: great football team. You lost to by sixteen and and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about all of it today, but you know

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Speaker 1: kind of the you know, the feeling that in the

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Speaker 1: conversation I should say more around fans and talk radio

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Speaker 1: and all of us is like, well, if they haven't

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Speaker 1: done this, and they well, if they've done that, if

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Speaker 1: they could have got this break, and I said it

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Speaker 1: this morning, at some point that you gotta stop that talk,

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Speaker 1: because that's really how losing teams talk. You know, winning teams.

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Speaker 1: You know, teams that win week in a week out

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Speaker 1: are fighting for the playoffs every year. It's not that

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Speaker 1: the mantra isn't well, if we really just got done

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Speaker 1: this or made this field goal, it didn't make this mistake,

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Speaker 1: we would have won the game. At some point, you

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Speaker 1: just gotta win the game. Pete, I mean, you gotta

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Speaker 1: stop talking about all the things you need to do

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Speaker 1: and just do it. Here's my advice to all Jaguar

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Speaker 1: fans out there. Learn this. Cheer us Jets. I mean, seriously,

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Speaker 1: you got to become a Jets fan. You know, if

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Speaker 1: they win one or two, become a Jets fan. It's

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Speaker 1: the easiest way and slops all your problems. Jets win

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Speaker 1: a game or two and you don't win the get

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Speaker 1: you get your Rember Lawrence? Simple, are we really gonna

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Speaker 1: start the show therapy? I mean six next week? It's

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Speaker 1: nineven week six, Yet we're just finished week five. We're

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Speaker 1: in the beginning stage. I want to see all the

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Speaker 1: tweets coming in today at the sli j E jets jets.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch Lawrence Saturday night? Is so good? He

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Speaker 1: is so good? Gosh, he's good. Um. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to Trevor. If I took Trevor Lawrence and put them

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Speaker 1: in this offense right now as is, they'd be explosive

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Speaker 1: as health that is. I still think they need a

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Speaker 1: pass catching tight end you can block or whatever to

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Speaker 1: go with it. But the rest of those guys are

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Speaker 1: good players. Offensive line is playing pretty good. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: running back is really good. And sure they have to

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Speaker 1: get involved with shoot outs because what's on the other

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it solves all the problems, because

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Speaker 1: one there's a bunch of teams with no wins right now?

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Speaker 1: I mean how I mean it's and I maybe it's

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Speaker 1: bad teams. I mean, the Jets are bad, the Giants,

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Speaker 1: the Giants are bad, but they're bad. The Falcons are terrible. Um,

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Speaker 1: what other? Is there one more winless team? That's Giants?

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Speaker 1: and those are the one win team. But that's between

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Speaker 1: the difference between those teams that have won a game yet,

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Speaker 1: as they all drafted a quarterback high in the first

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Speaker 1: round and Matt Ryan's get up in the years, but

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Speaker 1: he was a high first round pick. So was Jones.

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Speaker 1: So is Donald. So that Donald and Jones? Have they done?

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Speaker 1: You give up on them? Are they finished? Would you

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Speaker 1: give up on those guys for that guy? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: think with two I'm and I'm a Donald. I mean

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Speaker 1: think it's almost unfair to evaluate those guys with what

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Speaker 1: they have around them. The teams are so bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go back to the Jaguars. Yeah, let's get back

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Speaker 1: to the Okay, we'll let back to the Jaguards. Look,

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Speaker 1: I thought the defense competed a little bit. I thought offensively,

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Speaker 1: I didn't like some of the play calls. I'll be

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Speaker 1: And the receivers are gonna be good players. I there

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Speaker 1: were a little problem and the kicker, come on, get Maddie,

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Speaker 1: you kidding me? Four yards? Four yard? And then he

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Speaker 1: couldn't quite get to the gold. Yeah, it was. It

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Speaker 1: was a bad day for mr. But guys, this has

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Speaker 1: been this has been a really good red zone team

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Speaker 1: They've been able to cash in a good amount. And

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Speaker 1: It well. I think they had a missus signment on

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Speaker 1: the swing pass you're talking about, because there was about

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Speaker 1: eight waiting they had like a missus signmon. Something was

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Speaker 1: worst design plays ever seen because you have guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: red I don't think they were good offensively. I didn't

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Speaker 1: Last two weeks you played in the thirty first ranked

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Speaker 1: good young back. I think you quarterback struggle a little

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Speaker 1: Remember that run. What he had in the half. He

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Speaker 1: that's just terrible. I can't get away from it. In

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Speaker 1: a close game like that. Yeah. Yeah. And of course,

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Speaker 1: remember Doug Moron after the game and again today, said, hey,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to play the worst defensive the worst,

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Speaker 1: their middle linebacker was out yesterday too, yes, and one

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425
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Speaker 1: or what. I wasn't around then, but two thousand two

426
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: they had four field goal kickers that season that had stats.

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Speaker 1: Can you name of the selling Tony you're muted for today?

428
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean today we got two hours. Tony said this

429
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Speaker 1: was the best three minutes of the show. Yet actually yeah,

430
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Speaker 1: let's let's put that thing on mute all the time.

431
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 1: So it's been a while since the Jags have had

432
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Speaker 1: this many kickers. Actually, this will be a new new high.

433
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: So anyway, you now your now your sound is even

434
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Speaker 1: that high? What do you mean my sound isn't that high? Here?

435
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: You perfectly you can't hear me? Is he a little fat? No?

436
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: We got him clear. It's probably because you have one

437
00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: of earbudd in the by the way, but no, you

438
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: don't have one the computer. What is going on? Hey, Pete?

439
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: Why is like dealing with camera your like nose, mouth

440
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: and shirt because it's on my laptop. You're close to

441
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: the video, You're like, really, we can't even see above

442
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: your eyes peint, Like, move your candy back, put your earbuds.

443
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Speaker 1: What do you want to see this? What is that?

444
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to see? They're not even playing football

445
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Speaker 1: right now? Why do we want to see? That? Will be?

446
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: They will be playing football? And you know what, this

447
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: is the year they're going to the National Championship. They're

448
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: going to the Natty. They're gonna run through the pack

449
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: twelve and get in. They're not going to beat usc.

450
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: USC's a joke. I feel bad for you, all right?

451
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: Can we the pack twelve is awful? Can we get

452
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Speaker 1: back to the Jaguars please? Okay, he's just for the record,

453
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Speaker 1: thank you. All right, we'll get the kickers coming up one.

454
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Speaker 1: That was the breaking news a moment ago. The Jaguars

455
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: anounced that. All right, let's also get back to the

456
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Speaker 1: offense a little bit later, because that's a long conversation.

457
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: Joe said, you were going to be the kicker, j P.

458
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Speaker 1: Could your reach from forty could you wait? Would you

459
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: have made a field goal from twenty four yard? Yes?

460
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Speaker 1: Or no? Oh no, no, no, no, no, no. Kicking

461
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: has never been my deal man, No way. Yeah, make it?

462
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: If I had one of those uh Dempsey flat footed,

463
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: a club foot, you gotta go kick at soccer style?

464
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Speaker 1: Could you make it? No? No, I hit the long

465
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Speaker 1: snapper and he wouldn't even make it to the holder.

466
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Speaker 1: He would just he would fall down. One from twenty

467
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: four yards is just embarrassing. I actually thought that. I

468
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Speaker 1: thought that the fact that the forty nine yarder came

469
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Speaker 1: up short was worse. Yeah you're right, Yeah, you're right.

470
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: They were back to back to that made it even

471
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Speaker 1: worse than them just by themselves. All right, let's touch

472
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Speaker 1: on defense here, because going into the game yesterday, a

473
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Speaker 1: bunch of starters out, I mean, Josh Allen didn't make

474
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: the trip. C J Henderson was out with the shoulder,

475
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: Miles Jack was inactive. So it's like, oh, here we go.

476
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: Dakota Allen's getting the start at linebacker. You got Sydney

477
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: Jones out there at corner who has bounced around a

478
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Speaker 1: little bit in the league, and then Caleb and Chason

479
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: is making his first career start at defensive end. And

480
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: then Josh Jones gets run out of the game with

481
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Speaker 1: an injection. But you know what, j don't forget about.

482
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand why no one's talking about

483
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: this person. No nickel quarterback either, DJ Starter he goes

484
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Speaker 1: out as well. So that's five if you want to

485
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: get those guys either way. Veteran corner and was not available.

486
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: So they're going into the game it's like, oh, this

487
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: could be real trouble. But for the first three quarters,

488
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: guys they held their own and played well. I had

489
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Speaker 1: a couple of takeaways and I thought I thought they

490
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: played pretty well early. Well. Tony's right though, that Texans

491
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: offense isn't good. It's not that David Johnson looks like

492
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: it takes him a week and a day to get

493
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: to the hole, and when there's a hole, it takes

494
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: him a week in a day to get through it.

495
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: He's slow. Watts is not playing well. Those were bad decisions.

496
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: He made bad decisions. I thought the receivers have speed.

497
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: They're not bad, but they're not. They're little. They have

498
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: little receivers, and they don't have a number one. They

499
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: got a bunch of number twos and threes and and

500
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: so it's not a good offense. What do you think

501
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: of the offensive line? They have thought because the Tunsil

502
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: makes a lot of money to play left tackle. He's okay,

503
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean he listen, he's in the upper echelon. But

504
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I pay him points

505
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: to million dollars a year for three years. Okay, you

506
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: see that much better than Cam Robinson right now? Yesterday? No, No,

507
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: I've actually think Kim's better in the run. Tunks a

508
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: little bit better in the past. But that's not a

509
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: good offense. And so yeah, there weren't playing and granted

510
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: Jackson has had a bad defense and they were down

511
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: well and we still we still didn't get pressures some

512
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: pressure on him. None. It was better. I mean we

513
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: blitzed better. We got home with the b and they

514
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: flushed him. They flushed him. Part of it, yeah, but

515
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: part of that JP is and Peter, I would love

516
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: your perspective. I don't think Watson is very good in

517
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: the pocket yere. He's all over the place. I don't

518
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: think he is either. I've watched all his games and

519
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: gone back and watched him. I think he's struggling. And

520
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: when you look up at the end of the day,

521
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: what were his numbers. His numbers were, we're bad, They're

522
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: pretty good. With three touchdowns the two interceptions, Watson was

523
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty five passing for three fifty nine, three touchdowns,

524
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: two picks, one nine. I know the picks were bad,

525
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: but I mean that's on the paper, that's not it wasn't.

526
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: That's it this way like min choose games at times, Tonty.

527
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't as good as the stats. Yeah, that's fair.

528
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he made some Now, in fairness

529
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: to Watson, he made some really pretty deep throws. Now,

530
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: he missed a wide open David Johnson, but he made

531
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: some pretty deep throws. Yeah, the one on the sideline

532
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: when when he ran from the slot on claybro that

533
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: was a great bro. Hey, how about some of these

534
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: How about some of these guys that stepped in yesterday

535
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: to start on defense. Sidney Jones was great. But Sidney

536
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Jones I thought, was he got an interception a couple

537
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: of past breakups. I thought he was good. He's gotta

538
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: be on the field. He's gotta be on the field

539
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: no matter what. Pressed with. Another guy was impressed with.

540
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: I thought d J. Hayden. I thought Trey Herndon, um

541
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: like praise. Not the fastest guy, we know that, but

542
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: he's a tough Sammy defender. And I thought he was

543
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: physical in the run. He came up and made some

544
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 1: tackles against David Johnson and the line of scrimmage from

545
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: the nickel position. Really impressed with him. Um was good

546
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: to see Daniel Thomas out there. He was throwing the action.

547
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: I thought he was okay. Um Koda Ellen made a

548
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: couple of plays. He was much better than he was

549
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: the week before. After a week of preparation and getting

550
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: a lot of reps, Tayson still was not making much

551
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: of an impact. Um. He had a chance one shot

552
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: on the stunt on the stunt on the stunt that

553
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: he just missed him. But he's still learning, and you know,

554
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: which is normal for young working defensive ends, especially since

555
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: he was not it's a newer position for him. I

556
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: contend that and JP, you watched more SEC football than

557
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: any of us, But I don't remember Chase. I'm putting

558
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: his hand on the ground a lot playing defensive end

559
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: on first and second down for else. That's right. I

560
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: mean we say that every week, but that's what he's

561
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: doing now. It's true. Yeah, but it's hard. It's not

562
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: an easy transition for you. I say, yes, even Brian

563
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: made a play in the backfield tackle for loss. David

564
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: made one. You're in the two laughing. You're the ones

565
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: laughing three smiling JP. JP was chuckling, and you laughed.

566
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: You smiled, You had a big sprint on your face.

567
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: It was good, It was good, happy to be here.

568
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: It was good for him. It is good for a

569
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: table to get that play in the backfield. Three tackles,

570
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: one for a loss. Also, Dwan Smooth had a day

571
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: and Duck Bron said it's probably the best days had

572
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: at least a couple of years on this team. Um,

573
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: yesterday had two tackles, had a sack, three quarterback hits,

574
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: which was a good good day at the office for

575
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: Smooth yesterday. He's a good, rotational, try hard guy. That's

576
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: what he is. Okay, But so I agree with that,

577
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: and I thought you did have a good day. But

578
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: guess what, that's where I think David Bryan is too,

579
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: a good rotational, try hard guy, right and I think

580
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of those guys right now. Correct.

581
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: I would agree that how did Hamilton's play in there,

582
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: because I couldn't really focus in on him. Doesn't do much,

583
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: does he. I mean, he's pretty good and he's a

584
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: big body. He's getting better, but he does a pretty

585
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: good job against Ron. He's not gonna give you much

586
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: pass rush. I mean, he's a nose guard. He's the

587
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: first and second down those guard. He's gonna be a

588
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: pretty I think he's gonna be a pretty good down

589
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: player though in the run. Actually yeah, as a person

590
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: second down those guy. But he's not a dynamic pass rusher.

591
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he care no. Al Right, guys, let's

592
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Speaker 1: come back. We'll get back into the offensive talk again. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we will sure you want me to come back. We've

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00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: got an hour and a half, so we could probably

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00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: fill all that with the offensive talk with Tony and

596
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: this one we'll also get to the special teams talk again.

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00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: The Jaguars made a kicking change today again. A second

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Speaker 1: push the ball down the field. We wanted to, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we thought we'd be able to you know,

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Speaker 1: and we did it. And I think the game plan

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Speaker 1: and you know, score points. You know, we felt coming

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Speaker 1: the defensive players out UM, you know, we thought we

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Speaker 1: wanted to get a game plan where you know, we

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Speaker 1: can score. And I mean that's that's as simple as

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Speaker 1: it is I think you know that's that's what we

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Speaker 1: were playing and we didn't execute it. That coach set

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Speaker 1: Morone and Houston yesterday after the loss to the Texans

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Speaker 1: thirty to fourteen, Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P.

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Speaker 1: Shaddrick Tony was Sully Pete Frisco your social questions coming

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Speaker 1: up in the second hour of the show. So the

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Speaker 1: offense there, there was the answer right there that we

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Speaker 1: talked about earlier. That was the plan was to push

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Speaker 1: it down. Gardner through the ball forty nine times in

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Speaker 1: the game way too me. What's is it? What does

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Speaker 1: he how many attempts does he have this season? Right

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Speaker 1: now he has the fourth most attempts in the league,

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Speaker 1: six and he's second in completions a hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: seven this year in the league started too much? And

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Speaker 1: what's the stat? JP? I saw that like in the

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Speaker 1: last five times or four times, or however many times

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Speaker 1: or maybe his entire career that he throws for three

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Speaker 1: yards though they lose, but that stack gets thrown around

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Speaker 1: all the time in the NFL. Usually if you throw

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Speaker 1: for over three hundred, not not anymore. But he used

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Speaker 1: it used to be if he took for over three

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Speaker 1: and yard you were trailing, but not anymore. That's not

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Speaker 1: it's it's a different stat now. My point is, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's why I just stats with quarterbacks there. You have

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Speaker 1: to change your perspective. It's not like it used to be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have to look at the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because if you start playing from behind these

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Speaker 1: soft coverages and in all the open spaces, you better

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Speaker 1: put some yards up. Yeah, it's it's more about the eyes,

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Speaker 1: what I tell you, rather than the than the numbers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, week one, three yard, it's an efficient week.

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Speaker 1: It's a good week. But he didn't drive the ball

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Speaker 1: down the field. Two was probably his best game. Yeah

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Speaker 1: when they rallied back in the game. Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was probably his best game. But I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: just I think Tony's right when he says he doesn't

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Speaker 1: throw guys open. If you're wide open, he'll find him.

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Speaker 1: And he's still not comfortable in the pocket. He's too

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Speaker 1: jump in there. He gets out too soon. You have

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Speaker 1: to have the confidence you have to get. You have

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Speaker 1: to have the confidence to see it and then have

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Speaker 1: the arm strengthen order the confidence your arm that you

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Speaker 1: can just sit there and fired in that tight window.

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Speaker 1: And I wonder, you know, especially because he gets It's

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Speaker 1: almost like as the clock goes on, he starts moving

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Speaker 1: around and his feet are unsettled. And we saw it

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Speaker 1: early in the game. He actually missed a pretty open

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Speaker 1: um Lebiscuits chernaut because he's like out of nowhere. He's

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Speaker 1: climbing up, like running up the pocket and then trying

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Speaker 1: to throw it on the move and the ball it

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Speaker 1: sales on him. So um, And I know, people listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to nitpick or pick on Gardner again.

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Speaker 1: I want him to be the guy. The bottom line is,

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Speaker 1: if you look at this team right now, you're one

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Speaker 1: and four and you were struggling the last couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks to score points when it matters. Now you're scoring

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Speaker 1: points late, you're trying to come back, and you're doing stuff. Um,

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Speaker 1: but if you look at and you're barely doing that.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins, you scored thirteen points, against the Bengals, you

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Speaker 1: scored what was but all very late. And against the Texans,

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Speaker 1: who are terrible defensively, he scored fourteen. And this is

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Speaker 1: gonna league whatever. This isn't a league where everyone score points,

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Speaker 1: all right, So let's ask the question. We asked the

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Speaker 1: question guy, and I said, we have sixteen weeks to

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Speaker 1: make that decision, or seventeen weeks with the bye. I like,

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Speaker 1: you know, in seventeen weeks, here's another one. All right, Pete,

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Speaker 1: can he get better from this? You know we're gonna

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Speaker 1: ask that every week? Yeah, well you asked it every week.

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Speaker 1: You asked the other one every week. The difference what

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Speaker 1: you are what you are usually that's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is what is time out? Though, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna call you on that because two years ago Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen was awful. A year ago, at this time, he

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Speaker 1: was below average and looked like, oh my gosh, he

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Speaker 1: can't see it. He can't stay in the pocket. He

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Speaker 1: runs at first opportunity. He's inaccurate, get a big ar,

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Speaker 1: but inaccurate, and he slowly got better throughout last year.

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Speaker 1: Tell him, tell him, tell him the year. In the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: there was still the question they didn't win because Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen wasn't ready for them to win a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Then he comes out this year and the dude is

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Speaker 1: dealing and the dudes like, MVP. You don't tell me Pete,

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Speaker 1: you are what you are because you're a quote unquote

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Speaker 1: and what was he when he came out? He was

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Speaker 1: a six ft five for a normal is athletic you knew,

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Speaker 1: you knew it would just take a little bit of

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Speaker 1: footwork and he would be fine. No, that's but Pete,

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Speaker 1: that's not fair because no one else, like there's the

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Speaker 1: majority of people were not on that side about Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: They thought he was gonna another one. He's gonna play tonight.

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert when he came out of Oregon to a

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Speaker 1: lot of people thought he's gonna have issues. Correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like him watching him because I mean, now, if

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Speaker 1: you're telling me now a better comment from you that

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Speaker 1: would make sense outside of what you just said being dumb.

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Speaker 1: But you can't get better? Is this like there's certain

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Speaker 1: traits that if you have, then you have more room

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Speaker 1: to grow as a quarterback. Like you see what is

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Speaker 1: this ceil about? Let me finish, Let me finish. Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: I'll use him. Six four athletic and has a rocket

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Speaker 1: for an arm. Maybe some questions about decision making in college?

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Speaker 1: Is he accurate enough? Well, he's come out in the

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Speaker 1: pros and yeah, Can you get better in the pocket?

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Speaker 1: Can he make better decisions? Absolutely? But he's accurate, he

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Speaker 1: has a gun, he's big, and he's fast. And so

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Speaker 1: if your point is like there's certain characteristics that you

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Speaker 1: either have or you don't, I agree with that. But

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Speaker 1: to say a guy kick it better, I tell what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is there's a ceiling. He can get better,

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Speaker 1: but he ain't going over the ceiling. Where's a guy

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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen could get better and that ceiling is

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Speaker 1: way higher and we're seeing it now. Same with Herbert.

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Speaker 1: That's not what you said, Pete, you said, don't get better? Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know what I meant. Last year has meant you

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Speaker 1: better than he was last year? Yes? Is he? I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much better is he than he his

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Speaker 1: last year? That's a good question. I like that. That's

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Speaker 1: not a not a lot better, but he's better. I

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Speaker 1: think he's better. That's interesting moments. I think so. But Okay,

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Speaker 1: if Justin Herbert goes the same level of better that

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Speaker 1: that minds you goes to, who's gonna be a better quarterback? Well?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, there are certain traits that Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert have that you are what you are, But you

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Speaker 1: have to define that, Pete, because if you said that

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Speaker 1: same thing with Drew Brees. And I hate doing this

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Speaker 1: because Drew Brees is a little bit of an anomaly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a lot of guys like but

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Speaker 1: he got better year after year. Every year he got better.

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Speaker 1: And it's not like he has a rocket for a

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Speaker 1: right arm. It's not like he's six five. Wasn't he

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Speaker 1: like a second round pick though? It wasn't like he

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Speaker 1: was deep down the draft like I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, j P, that's a good point. That's a

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Speaker 1: big time player coming out of the big t Okay,

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Speaker 1: al right, get a compared to Drew Brees, does he

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Speaker 1: have the does Gardner means you have the same arm

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees has. No, I can't disagree, okay to him, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just saying, but my comparison to Drew Brees, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll compare him to Russell Wilson, a third rounder. Again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he has the physical traits. Excuse me

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Speaker 1: as far as arm strength is that Russell Wilson. But

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Speaker 1: my contention with you is making the comment he can't

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Speaker 1: get better? Can he can get Okay, let me take

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Speaker 1: that comment back. He can get better, but his better

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Speaker 1: getting better isn't going to be high enough to make

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Speaker 1: him the long term answer. That's all say. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure I agree with you. I know you're strong

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Speaker 1: in that. I'm leaning towards that way. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I know you're strong. If you just said in fairness,

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Speaker 1: in fairness, you would have said the exact same thing

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Speaker 1: about Russell Wilson five years ago. Uh. Probably not. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you're so full of it. You were the most anti

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Speaker 1: I was in the world. I just said I thought

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Speaker 1: he was I thought he was decent. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: he was a superstar early in those years, and you

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Speaker 1: never thought he wouldn't be. He's a superstar is remember

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Speaker 1: he is, he's mobile, he has a big arm um

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Speaker 1: true or false, And he has a big arm you compared.

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Speaker 1: And he's accurate, and he like is a student of

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Speaker 1: the game. And he's competitive, you said, Pete. And I

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Speaker 1: will hope I will find somebody who has articles you

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Speaker 1: were so you said, Russell Wilson is just a guy.

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Speaker 1: He only wins because of the defense. He only were

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Speaker 1: it wins because of the stuff around him. He's not earlier.

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Speaker 1: Your quote, No, your quote was he's not a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and it's a basic only what you said. Hold on

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Speaker 1: based on you saying and if you use the same

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Speaker 1: thing you just said about gardiament Show, then Russell just

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Speaker 1: is who he is. He can't get any better, and

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Speaker 1: I don't buy that. Well, he first off, he had

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Speaker 1: the scoring defense, led the league in scoring four straight years.

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Speaker 1: Pretty easy to play quarterback with that guy, know, And

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Speaker 1: That is a fair comment. What is the ceiling? I

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a time out and think about it.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back. We've got to talk about the kickers

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Speaker 1: before we going further. Did I not dominate Pete right

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869
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Speaker 1: about it, you know when you're gonna call it in

935
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Speaker 1: that situation, and we just didn't execute it. So to

936
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Speaker 1: ask your question, if if I had to go back

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Speaker 1: and know when it wasn't gonna work, would I would?

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Speaker 1: I would rather run something else, Obviously I would. That's

939
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Speaker 1: like we're on discussing that fourth in one play with

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941
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Speaker 1: the past attempt and welcome back to Jaguar's Happy Hour.

942
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli for the record, Pete,

943
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Speaker 1: you gave the Seahawks draft a C plus. That was

944
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Speaker 1: a draft that had Bruce Servants and Russell Wilson draft

945
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Speaker 1: go back on the first one. I met. My reason

946
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Speaker 1: and for giving them that great was they signed Matt

947
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Speaker 1: Flynn to a big contract and then drafted Russell Wilson.

948
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Speaker 1: So you get to give him a bad grade for

949
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Speaker 1: one or the other. Right, Yeah, give him the bad

950
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Speaker 1: grade for Matt one because it was an A plus

951
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Speaker 1: on Russell world was not only the draft was loaded

952
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Speaker 1: to go read that draft. Bruce Evans is a good player.

953
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Speaker 1: Who else Bruce servant, Bobby Wagner, Russell Wilson gave a

954
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Speaker 1: C C plus plus, Robert Turban, J Howard J Howard

955
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle, linebacker Corey Tumor, corner act Jeremy Lane, safety,

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Speaker 1: Winston Guy we know him, offensive guard Jr. Sweezy and

957
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Speaker 1: defensive end Greg Scruggs. It was a great is an

958
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Speaker 1: A plus raft? But you know, just like, just like,

959
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Speaker 1: just like he blew it on the last segment, I'll say,

960
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Speaker 1: yeah that you went and regraded this in and gave

961
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Speaker 1: it an A plus. So wait, way to go hindsight, pet,

962
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Speaker 1: I know, but no. See what I do is I

963
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Speaker 1: go back and admit my mistakes. Unlike most people, they

964
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Speaker 1: let theirs just sit there. I admit my mistakes. I'll

965
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Speaker 1: write them out every year. I go back three years

966
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Speaker 1: to the draft and go back and look at my stupidity,

967
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Speaker 1: how I made mistakes, but more than that, how the

968
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Speaker 1: team made mistakes. So can you can you like that's

969
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Speaker 1: a good exercise that shows humility and self awareness to

970
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: make sure you call out when you're an idiot, which

971
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Speaker 1: could be often. Can you do that with the last segment. No,

972
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Speaker 1: because you know what I meant. You took something when

973
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Speaker 1: you perfect You know you agree with me, you just

974
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Speaker 1: don't want to say it. No, I don't. I think

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Speaker 1: he I think he can get better. Okay, well, I

976
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Speaker 1: mean get better. How like? How give me? Give me

977
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Speaker 1: the level of getting better that he's growing for yards

978
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Speaker 1: the game and and staying in the pocket longer. What's better?

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Speaker 1: I think? I think I think he can recognize defense

980
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Speaker 1: is better. I think he can anticipate his defense is

981
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Speaker 1: very well. Then, no, I think you can get better.

982
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Speaker 1: I think you can anticipate better. I think he can

983
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Speaker 1: be better in the pocket, keeping his eyes down field.

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Speaker 1: I think all those things. Okay, I think he can

985
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Speaker 1: get I think he has gotten a little better anticipating,

986
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Speaker 1: even though he's not great at it. I think he's

987
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Speaker 1: gotten better at things in the pocket, even though he's

988
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Speaker 1: not great at it. But I don't think all that

989
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Speaker 1: will ever take him to a point where he's the

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Speaker 1: guy and that Okay, that's a fair point. Now I

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Speaker 1: can't argue that, and I'm not even sure I disagree

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Speaker 1: with you at this point. I want to. I want to.

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Speaker 1: I want to see more so that if you would

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Speaker 1: have gone with that last segment, Pete, I would say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, that's fair because there's gonna be limitations

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Speaker 1: on He's never gonna grow. Um, he's not gonna I mean,

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Speaker 1: how much could his arms strength increase? Which is the

998
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Speaker 1: difference when you use Josh Allen as the analogy. You

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Speaker 1: can't use Josh Allen, I'm not. My analogy was the

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Speaker 1: fact that he got better, but he had the ability

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Speaker 1: And the question is is what it is? The ceiling

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Speaker 1: they make the ceiling too low for him to be

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Speaker 1: a Francise quarterback. And everyone likes to go back to

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Speaker 1: the Patriots picking Tom Brady in the in the fifth

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Speaker 1: have concerns all over the place, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: we're all, you know, on the same page. You know,

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Speaker 1: everybody's fighting their tail off. Like efforts not an issue

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Speaker 1: like we we just gotta you know, pinpoint what exactly

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Speaker 1: is going wrong? Keep putting that same effort forward and

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Speaker 1: address his issues. Gardner Minshew after the game yesterday in Houston,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday,

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Speaker 1: after a thirty to fourteen loss to the Texans. Fifth

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Speaker 1: in a row that the Jags have lost to Houston,

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Speaker 1: fourth of a row the Jags have lost this season.

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Speaker 1: J P, Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony BROSSELLI glad you're along

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Speaker 1: with us. Big stories. Well yes, before we get before

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Speaker 1: we getting a big story. Sorry, I wanna cut you off,

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Speaker 1: um min. She said something. I want to give Dougs

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Speaker 1: some credit because I mean, you know, question calls and

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Speaker 1: you know we didn't like the call to go on

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Speaker 1: and we're questioning. You know, Jay Gruden is getting away

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Speaker 1: from the run game and everything else. But this is

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Speaker 1: the one thing that Doug and his coaching staff has

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Speaker 1: done a great job with. The one thing you can't

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Speaker 1: question is how hard these guys play. I mean, it

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01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,959
Speaker 1: is a group that plays hard from the first snap

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01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: the last step. And you know what that is a

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Speaker 1: reflection of Doug Rown and his coaching staff. They have

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Speaker 1: a lot of young players. It is not easy to

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Speaker 1: coach this many rookies and second year players, and especially

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Speaker 1: with the offseason these guys had and trying to install

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Speaker 1: and get things in there, and the fact that they

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Speaker 1: have come out and that they and I know one,

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Speaker 1: no one wants to hear this as fans, and I

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Speaker 1: get it. It's about winning. You're losing and being one

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Speaker 1: of four stinks. It's awful, and losing the way we've

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Speaker 1: lost a few last few weeks is no fun and

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Speaker 1: it stinks. But these guys, you can't question the effort

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Speaker 1: in the preparation and the hard work these guys are

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Speaker 1: putting in. They're young, they're inexperience, and they're inconsistent, and

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Speaker 1: that's why you've seen a lot of these issues. And

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Speaker 1: they don't seem like they get and there they don't.

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Speaker 1: Nobody likes losing. But back in the day when when

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Speaker 1: I covered you guys, and you guys lost your babies

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Speaker 1: about it. Half the team. I mean, seriously, it's in

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Speaker 1: one game and you go in the locker room and

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01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: they'd start screaming at you and yelling at you. And getting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you would agree that it's different, Tony, Well,

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Speaker 1: this is now we don't know either because we're not

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Speaker 1: in the locker room. Pete. That's true, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like this is the teammate. And

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Speaker 1: granted it's a lot of young players. I get it,

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Speaker 1: but even that team, when Tony was on the team,

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Speaker 1: they had young players. When they'd lose, it was like

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Speaker 1: you'd go in the locker room and it would be

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Speaker 1: like it was nasty almost at times. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know why that was. Maybe it was me, but I was.

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Speaker 1: All signs point to that, yes, probably, but Tony knows

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. It was different. It was like

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Speaker 1: an it was an anger after lost this and when

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Speaker 1: what team you talking about? Nineties? Even the team to take,

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Speaker 1: I'll take the team which was bad that team too. Yeah,

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01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: we were not I mean I was not pleasant to

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01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: be around if we lost. Oh but you were. You

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01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: were not pleasant, but you stood up and you answered

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: the questions and you were never totally disrespectful. There were times,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you and I have talked about this on

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Speaker 1: the show. A number of times. I was in a

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01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: bad mood and I might be a little bit uh cranky,

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01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: short or cranky and pushed back. But I always knew

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Speaker 1: that you guys had a job to do, and I

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01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: respected the job the media had to do. That it

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Speaker 1: was part of the process, and that win or lose,

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Speaker 1: you have to stand up and take your medicine. And

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Speaker 1: you know, and you know, you always knew in the

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Speaker 1: back of your head that you were going to be

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Speaker 1: a member of the media. I can honestly say that

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Speaker 1: is not true. It's gonna need the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: votes that some day. So yeah, that Tony knows what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Tony knows exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: It's just and I don't get and that's that's not

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Speaker 1: a bad thing. By the way, It doesn't mean they

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Speaker 1: care any less, just that they they seem to be

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Speaker 1: guys that want to go out and play hard, work

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Speaker 1: hard if you lose. It's not getting ugly, which I

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Speaker 1: think is. And I'm gonna go back to the flipping

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Speaker 1: of the culture because the last team you had problems

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Speaker 1: with some of those guys. There were some guys that

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Speaker 1: were nasty and the culture wasn't great. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And now and I here's the

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01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: flip of the flip side of that peak. The test

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01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 1: is coming that if you keep on rolling off loss

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01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: after loss after loss. Let me know, it'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how Doug manages his young team if they

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Speaker 1: can't get a win this week against Detroit Um, which

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01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: is not a really very very good team, but they

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Speaker 1: have a very good quarterback and they are fighting for

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01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: a coaching staff, fighting for their jobs. Um. I guess

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: similar to Jacksonville. If you lose this one and then

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01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: you gotta go to l A and you're one and

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01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: six going into that bye week, it'll be interesting. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I just don't get this that this is a

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01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: group made up of guys that are going to get nasty.

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01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if you just think about it, they don't

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Speaker 1: see him. Somebody I heard on the radio the other day.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to Jacksonville radio the other day and

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: I and and somebody said that Minshew was a little

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Speaker 1: short with his answers last week. Is that true? JP

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati? No, during the week last week, because he

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Speaker 1: seems like he's always the guy that comes up and

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Speaker 1: answer the questions. He's you know, I don't I didn't

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Speaker 1: really see that honestly, he's he answers a question, he

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Speaker 1: kind of gives you a quote or two that that

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Speaker 1: will be a money quote, but then he doesn't give

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Speaker 1: you a lot either. You know, he'll say some things

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Speaker 1: without saying anything. But he seems like a guy that

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01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: eat at his core, So he might get tired of

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01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: answering the same questions we can. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's I think he's the same way you talked about

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01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: Tony though. I think he understands why he has to

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01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: be there. Yeah, yeah, I heard he's great with the media. Again,

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Speaker 1: I understand that, but I just heard that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know who said it. Maybe it was one of the

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Speaker 1: guys on Franjie show or heyes, or one of those

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01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: guys said it, and it was I'll say this too,

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01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: knowing the competitor that he is, and I don't know

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01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: him well, len't mind you, but knowing being around the

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Speaker 1: building a little bit, and I wouldn't be surprised at

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Speaker 1: all if he's upset with the way things are going

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01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: right now, and maybe it does bleed a little bit.

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01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: That's so I'm with you, guys. I would be angry too,

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01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: But I didn't notice it let's put it that way.

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Speaker 1: And if you heard that, maybe somebody what I heard

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Speaker 1: on the radio. I don't. I don't live there anymore.

1219
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm not that locker room, not around the team every day. Yeah,

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01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: but neither is anybody. But I don't think. Yeah, I

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01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: would be more upset if he wasn't upset about what's

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Speaker 1: going on right now. And I think he wants to

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Speaker 1: go win games and be a great quarterback, So why

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Speaker 1: wouldn't he be a little bit maybe had a little

1225
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: bit of attitude? Okay, fine. It would be frustrating to

1226
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: be a media guy covering the team nowadays because the

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01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: way everything is, you can't really cover him. You're not

1228
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: covering him. So weird man not being in there. It

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Speaker 1: really is. Yeah, I mean, you got no relationships, you

1230
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: got no gossip, know who you know what I mean,

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01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: it's it. It'd be tough to cover with the tea

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Speaker 1: if I was the beat guy, and nowadays, in this year,

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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: I would have a hard time with it. I'd be

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01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: calling guys on the phone, and you gotta be able

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01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: to communicate, like I don't know the rookie class, I

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01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: don't know those guys drift Like what right? What kind

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01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: of guy is James Robinson, Like I've seen him on

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Speaker 1: the conference calls. I'm sure he's a nice he seems

1239
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: like a nice guy, and he's playing well, and but

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Speaker 1: it'd be nice to just have a ten minute conversation

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01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: with him. I don't know if i'd know what any

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Speaker 1: of these guys look like if I saw him on

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01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: the street, right, I mean, it's it's just like you

1244
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: never We're never around him. Like when Fred was out

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01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: of his rookie yeard. I remember going to his locker

1246
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: and sitting there talking to him, and he said he

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Speaker 1: could rush for two thousand. I had a headline and

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01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: he could have yeah, and he could scored a lot

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: of touchdowns if Tom didn't take him out either. Don't

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01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: say that, believe me. Yeah. Let's get to some of

1251
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: the headlines of the day, of course, the offense struggling

1252
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: in key moments. Yesterday in Houston, there were three times

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01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: inside the twenty five yard line that they came away

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01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: with zero points, and one of those that they got

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01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: to the twenty one at the deepest point and then

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01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: had a holding call and missed a forty nine yard

1257
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: field goal. They were down inside the tenant one point

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01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: had a fourth and one came away without points. Did

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: they bail on the run tune soon? That's a talking

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Speaker 1: point today, Gardner though, as we've talked about this show already,

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Speaker 1: he's throwing at forty nine times a game. That maybe

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Speaker 1: a bit too many, especially when a lot of that

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Speaker 1: game was a one score game a lot of the time. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: defense though, did their best considering the the starters that

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Speaker 1: were out of the football game. Four sharters missed yesterday

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Speaker 1: and another was kicked out ejected from the game, but

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Speaker 1: got away from that group of guys on defense in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Either way, it's a fourth straight loss

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Speaker 1: and the third straight loss to a team that I

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Speaker 1: don't want a game yet, Let's stay, let's stay at

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Speaker 1: the defense be it. I'd like to beat your perspective

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Speaker 1: and this defense get better this year? Or is this

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Speaker 1: an off season problem? Maybe Jeff and I have talked

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Speaker 1: about it quite a bit. You think this is an

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Speaker 1: off season issue that you can't address still, then it

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Speaker 1: is what it is, and that they're gonna give a

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Speaker 1: bunch of points every week. Or can they get better?

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Speaker 1: M uh, they have a chance to get a little

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Speaker 1: bit better, But I don't think it's gonna be significantly better.

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Speaker 1: I think they lack power players inside to push the pocket.

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Speaker 1: They lack corners who well, let's let me correct myself,

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Speaker 1: because I think Henderson and Herndon and maybe if Sidney

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Speaker 1: Jones starts playing, you had it's the group, isn't that

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Speaker 1: isn't awful? What do you think about the safety spot?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got Wilson back, he made a play yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Josh Jones is a really good He's really good, really

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Speaker 1: good at the run. Not a good coverage guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mean to be fair. I can't remember him

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Speaker 1: being a liability coverage though. Yeah maybe, but um, but

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Speaker 1: if you get Wilson back and you've got a good group,

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Speaker 1: that's not a bad group. But again, if all goes

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Speaker 1: back Tony, you know what this league is all about,

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Speaker 1: passers and pass rushers. If you have a pastor in

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Speaker 1: the pass rusher and pass rushers, you should be good.

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Speaker 1: So I'll say this, I think I think they can

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Speaker 1: get better. I think there's a ceiling how good they

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Speaker 1: can be. But the only way they're getting better is

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Speaker 1: than Miles Jack is healthy the rest of the year

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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen um finds his group as a pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: That's on the chance out closed with those guys to playing.

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Speaker 1: I know Alan wasn't close, but how it sounded like

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Speaker 1: Jack was close at one point. I think the word

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Speaker 1: I heard of the press conference today JP. Correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong that Doug Rowne felt good about everyone

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Speaker 1: being back this week or injury wise, except for Andrew

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Speaker 1: wingerd and Josh Lambeau. Correct. Yeah, Lambeo was going to

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Speaker 1: be until they switched the schedule around, and he had

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Speaker 1: a chance right after that original by, but now it's

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Speaker 1: going to be after the new by. But yeah, Wingered

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Speaker 1: is out for a little bit. Sounds like abdominal issue.

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Speaker 1: But the other guys they said they see about Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen on Wednesday. Didn't have anything really definitive today on Alan.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see on Wednesday when they all come back

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Speaker 1: to practice. So Allen didn't make it, so he was

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Speaker 1: done to begin with. Yeah, I think they can get

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01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: better like Allan's I'm still a big believer in Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a really good player, so um and Miles.

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Speaker 1: Jack is the best player in the football team right now.

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Speaker 1: He gets back healthy. That's gonna help him. And I

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Speaker 1: do believe that table On Chason can get better throughout

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Speaker 1: the year and he'll get more comfortable rush in the

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Speaker 1: pastor and the position these Playingcuse I do think he's

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: a good athlete and he has some physical gifts that

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01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: can help. But I see him getting better throughout the year.

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01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: So I think they can't get better because I think

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Speaker 1: the rushed the pastor. You know, they'll be improved as

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Speaker 1: the year goes on. Yeah, I would agree with you.

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01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: I think they can get better. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: how much better. And I gotta get down interior guys pocket.

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Speaker 1: That's what they need. They need down interior guys who

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Speaker 1: can push the pocket. And that's an offseason deal. Man.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that right now. Hard to do that

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Speaker 1: right now. I mean, they're promoting guys in the practice squad,

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Speaker 1: but you can't go outside the building and just find those.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and in the last four games all Austins

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Speaker 1: they've given up over I mean they have three. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just that's hard to win football games when you're

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Speaker 1: giving with that many points. They're not. It's a league

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01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: full of bad defenses and they're one of the worst

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Speaker 1: let's be honest about it. You said last week they're

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Speaker 1: the worst. Pete, Yeah, they might be, so you said

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Speaker 1: they were. I'm just now you're backing on. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to I'm trying to be nicer this week. You're a

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: little harsh last week, I'll say they're the worst. They're

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01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: the worst defense in the league. I mean, Pete like

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Speaker 1: he's extremes. You can't get better. This ceiling is this

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Speaker 1: is what is? Are they the worst team in the league? Defense? No?

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Speaker 1: Who is? Um? I was gonna say the Bengals probably

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01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: they got what Geno ackages on the field. They don't

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Speaker 1: have the Jets. The Jets are terrible on the defense.

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Speaker 1: They're bad, They're they're probably the Jets and the Jaguars

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: are probably two of the worst. They're two worst. Trying

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01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 1: to think who else is really bad? The Falcons are

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Speaker 1: pretty close. Everybody don't give them mhm alright, let's let's

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Speaker 1: get back to defense too. You know, they're on pace

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Speaker 1: to give it the most yards in the history of

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Speaker 1: the NFL, right now, the defense and they're five and

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Speaker 1: oh what about the Miami Dolphins scored more points at

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Speaker 1: that stadium in Santa clar contin any other team ever

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Speaker 1: going in there. Think about that. It's crazy. It's amazing,

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Speaker 1: Prisco in South Florida and Tony Boselli somewhere Where are

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Speaker 1: you today? Tony? I'm okay. Oh you're at the beach,

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Speaker 1: and here's what we've come up with today. Question number

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Speaker 1: one at Samuel Underscore of Underscore Duval, what's the worst

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Speaker 1: mistake we made this past offseason? A good one. I'll

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Speaker 1: let you go first. I gotta think about that. Stumped. Wow,

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Speaker 1: what a question. The worst mistake? Um? Wow? This was

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Speaker 1: this one guy keep its status quoe. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: some would say, you know, Klaus, right, Klaus letting some

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Speaker 1: of those kind of guys go. No, the bigger most

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Speaker 1: people would say the biggest mistake was keeping it status quo.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, coaching staff and GM is what you mean, correct.

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Speaker 1: I could argue getting to the point where it was

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Speaker 1: so toxic that one of your best young defensive players

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Speaker 1: and Goway didn't want to stay on the roster and

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Speaker 1: was willing to go pay play for what six million

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Speaker 1: dollars less or seven million dollars left, whatever it was

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Speaker 1: in um Minnesota instead of signing a deal with you.

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Speaker 1: Because the bottom line is, and we can argue whether

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Speaker 1: in Goquay was worth the money he was asking for,

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Speaker 1: which I would say many millions too much for Gockway.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you figure out how

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Speaker 1: to get a deal done within Gockway, you use that

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Speaker 1: first rounder on probably someone else in Cable, on Chase,

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Speaker 1: on Dad, you know, to some issues you have another

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Speaker 1: parts of the roster possibly um. And so I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's always bad to get rid of guys

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Speaker 1: who love football and are good players. Um that you

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Speaker 1: drat that you found in the third round. I would

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Speaker 1: say that, And I get why they had to. It

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Speaker 1: was too much water in the bridge. And if and

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Speaker 1: not being a part of those negotiations, if Dave Caldwell

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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars organization told us that he was not

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Speaker 1: signing for anything under twenty million, then um, that would

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Speaker 1: make then maybe it's not as big as a mistake. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean outside of that getting bad luck of signing

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Speaker 1: defensive interior defensive linement. One you had a bad heart

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Speaker 1: and another one who decided to op out. You know,

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Speaker 1: is that a bad decision or bad luck? It's just

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Speaker 1: bad all the way around. It's tough to place that

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Speaker 1: on um Dave and Doug. Um, you didn't know al

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Speaker 1: would just gonna opt out. You know, this pandemic was

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Speaker 1: gonna be what it is. I still don't understand the

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Speaker 1: process of the pre physical um of Gunter before you

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Speaker 1: signed it as a free agent. Why the issue wasn't

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Speaker 1: caught beforehand? Um, you know, so not knowing enough about that,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to comment, but that's probably more bad

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Speaker 1: luck than bad decision. And then I think a lot

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01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: of people would probably agree with a lot of people

1466
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: would say the base mistake was is not making a change. Okay,

1467
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this, Tony. You said if they

1468
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: had signed in gock Way, they wouldn't drafted Calevan Chason. Correct,

1469
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: you wouldn't need them, You wouldn't need them. Okay, Okay,

1470
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: let's go through the back end after Chason was picked,

1471
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: and you tell me which guy you would want on

1472
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: the roster in place of him, just that you know,

1473
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Reagor I'm gonna who that is the place wide

1474
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: receiver for the Eagles, justin Jefferson. He's really good. But

1475
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: you do have to Chennault in the second. That's fine,

1476
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: but just really good. Okay, Yeah, he's very Kenneth Murray,

1477
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: the linebacker been a linebacker for the Chargers. He's not

1478
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 1: really good. Great, he's good, But okay, you would have

1479
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: probably you've already already signed, so you're not gonna pick

1480
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 1: up uh who you're going to get it out? Uh

1481
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love No, no, uh Jordan Brooks, No Patrick Queen,

1482
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: But you're already signed Shoberaiah Wilson the right tackle. No, No,

1483
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: ig Manogady, No Jeff Gladney. You'd already drafted the corner.

1484
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna draft another one in the first round. Well,

1485
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: you could argue that, and how's that corner? The guy

1486
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: you just said, how's he playing? Gladn He plays for

1487
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 1: the Vikings. You saw him last night. He played for

1488
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: He's a good player. But you already drafted Henderson at nine. Overall,

1489
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: you're doing two corners where wherever you could argue. But

1490
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: at my point is I guess you would argue if

1491
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: you if you didn't got what would just meant that,

1492
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, when you had a second round, a second

1493
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: first round, or would you would you put a spend

1494
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: it on a big man inside. I mean, there's a

1495
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: lot of things that mean. It's a lot of what ifs.

1496
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying listen, by the way, I'm not even

1497
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: arguing that trading in Gockway was the wrong move overall,

1498
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: because you have to understand what the negotiations were, how

1499
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: much money he's working for. I mean, the question stumped me,

1500
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, and I'm I was grasping

1501
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: at straws a little bit to figure out what the

1502
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: biggest mistake in this offseason was. And I didn't want

1503
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: to jump on the bandwagon with Pete who said keeping

1504
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: status quo and so um. Like. I could argue that

1505
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: trading and Dockway was the right move because of um

1506
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: the contract situation, but I go back to the bad

1507
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: blood in the feelings between the organization and in Gockway.

1508
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: We're not just this. This past offseason is an issue

1509
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: that was boiling. It was a boiling issue or rising

1510
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 1: to the top of a major issue over the last

1511
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: probably twelve months. So. But but the way the draft

1512
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: dropped out, you know, because you think you'd if you

1513
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: if you had a got Way, you'd want a big

1514
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 1: power player inside. That's what you would ideally, like it

1515
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 1: really wasn't. There wasn't one there. Yeah, you'd have to

1516
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: make that you don't have to pick kin Law at

1517
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: number nine and then get the corner later in the draft. Correct.

1518
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: So there you go. There's question number one, and that's

1519
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: a doozy that that got us going here on the

1520
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: social questions. Let's go to question number two at Jags.

1521
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: As we continue to get deeper into the season, as

1522
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 1: Gardner approving more and more to not be the guy

1523
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:32,480
Speaker 1: in Eric quotes, what would he have to do consistently

1524
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 1: in the remaining eleven games to show he's the franchise

1525
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: I say win? Yeah, I mean that's a dumb player.

1526
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: That's a dumb answer. Well, thanks to win games. That's

1527
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: part of it. You have to show that you can

1528
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: win games. You have to show that you're progressing and

1529
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: improving and that the skill set you have um are

1530
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: greater than any deficiency that we know about arm strength

1531
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: and everything else. So you have two great such a

1532
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: get to me, I'm so good at one of those

1533
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: other skill sets. And I'll go back to the question

1534
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: about the off season. I could argue that the mistake

1535
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: was is not making a move to go get Justin

1536
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: Herbert in the first round, if even if you have

1537
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: to trade up, because that's I mean, I'm of the opinion.

1538
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: Until you know you have a franchise quarterback, I think

1539
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: you have to go get one. You have to go

1540
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 1: find one. And so you could argue that was a mistake.

1541
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: Um uh. And but as far as Minshew and what

1542
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 1: you know you have to see, I think you have

1543
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: to see progress. I think you've seeing better in the pocket.

1544
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: I see you have to see him starting participating better,

1545
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: making those throws down the field, pressing the ball down

1546
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 1: the field into the tight windows with accuracy um and

1547
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: being consistent in it um to a point that it

1548
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: overcomes any limitations that you know he has. As far

1549
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 1: as our arm strength, here's what he needs to do.

1550
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: Get the doctors to give him Jake Gluten. Here we

1551
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 1: go and get that arm on there, and then you

1552
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: buy that you'd have a really good quarterback. Well by

1553
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: you saying that, Pete, you don't think there's anything he

1554
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: can do that you believe that there's nothing he can

1555
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: do to prove to you that he is the franchise quarterback. No,

1556
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: I would disagree with that. And I think winning's part

1557
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, Pete, winning winning what winning three games?

1558
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: Is that part of it? No? No, no, no, they

1559
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: have to find a way to win. I think you

1560
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: have to get you have to get to seven. By

1561
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: the way, somebody sent in a comparison. I don't know

1562
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: if you were going to read it on the air,

1563
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna jump the gun anyways, Case Keenum, Oh,

1564
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 1: he said, that's the ceiling is Case Keenum. Do you

1565
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: agree with that? Pete? Case Keenum might have had a

1566
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: little stronger harm to be honestly, but I see I

1567
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: see what he's saying. I do see what he's saying.

1568
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: Case Keena moved around. But if that's the case that

1569
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 1: you have to go get a quarterback, well, if you

1570
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: have the first pick, you're going to get a quarterback anyway.

1571
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: I don't care if you don't have the first pick.

1572
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: If you have a top ten pick, you have to

1573
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: go get a quarterback. You have to go find a way.

1574
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I agree. Anyways, I think they do.

1575
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: And I came into the season with an open mind.

1576
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: I really did. I thought he I wanted to see

1577
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: him get better in the pocket. I wanted to see

1578
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: him driving. So I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask

1579
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: you a question, Pete, with what you saw last year

1580
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: from the team and from Gardner, minshoot and having two

1581
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: first rounders Harvard, would you traded up two picks in

1582
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,520
Speaker 1: front of the Chargers to go get Herbert? Yes? Absolutely,

1583
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, I have a herb. I think I liked

1584
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: Herbert coming out of college too. I thought he was

1585
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: I thought he had a lot of uh characteristics that

1586
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: you like. And um, I really liked them coming out.

1587
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: But they do. You remember the scuttle butt was his personality.

1588
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: Wasn't you know at him buy any of it? I

1589
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: tell you what. They love him in Los Angeles. Yeah,

1590
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 1: and the players love him. That's the biggest compliment, right,

1591
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: He's got it. Believe me, he's got it. You know

1592
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: when you see it, you know when you see it. Yeah,

1593
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's interesting because I mean, and I'm not

1594
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and say I would have been that

1595
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: strong where I'd have traded two picks up to go

1596
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: get him. Um, but in hindsight, in hindsight, you do it.

1597
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 1: I do it right right this second. But I'm not

1598
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna be there. I like them coming

1599
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 1: out a lot, um, but I you know, I just

1600
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't convinced. I was not convinced coming into the

1601
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: season and We talked about this in the offseason JP

1602
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: and and on shows. Um the Gardener was the man

1603
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: not saying he but I also wasn't convinced he wasn't.

1604
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: And when you are in a position of indecision with

1605
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: your quarterback, then I think you gotta go find guys

1606
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 1: to compete with them. So you could have You could

1607
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: have gone up to four because the Giants wanted to tackle,

1608
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 1: and there were four of them in that draft, And

1609
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: if they had traded back to nine, they still could

1610
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,560
Speaker 1: have got Wills or Beckton rather than take Thomas, So

1611
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: you could have gone to nine into four and got

1612
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: him if you wanted them. You know how I feel

1613
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: about Herbert I I I'm with you. I'm I think

1614
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: the kid is going to be it. I think he's

1615
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna be He is the guy that picked the partner draft,

1616
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: coming in by everybody for his accuracy, much like Josh

1617
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Allen was. But you can look at him and you say,

1618
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 1: you know what, there's a lot to work with their

1619
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a good player. But they didn't. So

1620
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: this is what this is what it is. Yeah, yeah,

1621
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: but and that's why I'm not going to give up

1622
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: home Gardner yet. I'm not in the same campus beat.

1623
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: I think there is stuff he can do to prove

1624
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 1: to me at least that he is the future of

1625
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: this franchise. But but Tony, Okay, People will say, well,

1626
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 1: what if he was in Jacksonville's offense, would he have

1627
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 1: the same success he's had? The charges of it? The

1628
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Chargers don't have a ton of talent on offense. We

1629
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:51,520
Speaker 1: actually the offensive, the offensive line is better for the Jaguars,

1630
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 1: the receiving the receiving corps is a little bit better

1631
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: for the Williams. Has it been? And and so is

1632
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: the tight ends really good too? On her Henry? Yeah,

1633
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 1: so they're a little Mike Williams hasn't been on the field.

1634
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: He's been throwing the guy that touched out as his

1635
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 1: last week and came the guys off the street. All right.

1636
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: Our next question comes from at Brandon Bushyight won seven. Pete,

1637
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: I need your take on this. Oh boy, I can't wait.

1638
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: Is it too early to admit the showburn experiment is

1639
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: a bust? I know Tony's response will be no, because

1640
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: he's been able to help Miles Shack moved to his

1641
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 1: correct position. But I feel nine of the middle linebackers

1642
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: could have done that. Uh. To answer your question, yes, okay, wait,

1643
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 1: time out, time explain why he's a bust. I don't know.

1644
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: He's not a bus Is he worth the money they

1645
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: spent on that? Okay, that's fair, that's a fair quint.

1646
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 1: That's fair. And the answer to my answer would be no,

1647
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: I have not seen anything that and I think JP

1648
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Show is one of the

1649
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: higher paid middle linebackers in the league. Is that correct?

1650
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: I would say probably yes, Okay, And I don't know,

1651
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's one of the more impactful

1652
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 1: middle linebackers in the NFL. I don't think he makes

1653
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 1: huge mistakes. Um. I think he's in the right place

1654
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: for the most part. But I have not seen him

1655
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: make impact plays per se. Uh. Now we're only five

1656
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 1: games in. It's very early. Um. Right now, I'd qualify

1657
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: him as a solid player, but it's like it fairness

1658
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: to him. The guys in front of him aren't occupying

1659
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: a lot of bodies either. They're not that you know

1660
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: what I mean, They're not great up front. So it

1661
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: is one of those situations where it might be nice

1662
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: to see him evaluated in a situation where he has

1663
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: a lot more help around them. So I'm I will

1664
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: give him, I will give him that benefit of the doubt.

1665
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,600
Speaker 1: But he's not a bus. That's I mean, he's not

1666
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: a bus. Okay, He's the guys that are making more

1667
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 1: than him right now, right inside linebackers mostly Jalen Smith

1668
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 1: who hasn't played close to that country draft, Zach Cunningham

1669
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: he's a stud now he's good. Miles Jack, he's a stud,

1670
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: Dion Jones, Bobby Wagner, he's do you see him? He

1671
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 1: is so good on Alexander. I'm good too, so then

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01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: showbur this year. Yeah he was hurt last year. But

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01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 1: but I mean there are guys you could go get too.

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01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: I mean you, I am always looking for a young

1675
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: bumper to go run and chase. That's what I'm looking for.

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01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 1: I I try and find a guy like that, you

1677
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, Okay, can can Jack Porterman

1678
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 1: play at all? You know you drafted him. I think

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01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: he's a inside middle. I don't think he's gonna be

1680
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: out there at nigglebe No, but he would he could

1681
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 1: play on first a second down because he was I know,

1682
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: but still need a nickel and schober can play Nickel.

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01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: I don't think he's chasing guys. Hey, you're paying Nickel

1684
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: that kind of money, don't you know? He know you do?

1685
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: You pay an every down linebacker that kind of money?

1686
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: But is he good enough? And as a thumper, that's

1687
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: the question. Is he more of a nickel on linebacker?

1688
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: I think you can dump. I think he's that. I don't.

1689
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 1: I just don't know how he can run? Do you humper?

1690
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: I wouldn't watch him. I would even Cleveland. I would

1691
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: have never qualified. Like running. He's a sideline to Silente Chase.

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01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: He's a running and Chase gun. I thought you were

1693
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 1: talking about quarterman. I'm sorry, quarter right, He's That's what

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01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 1: I was talking about. Yeah, No, Schobers not out of

1695
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: curiosity where the Schobert ranking PF grades, Not that this

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01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 1: is dangerous territories for me because I might lose it.

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01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 1: You're not gonna lose it. I'll find it though. All right,

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Speaker 1: Next question, j Next, we got time for two more.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to social number four. Do you see Scott

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Speaker 1: oh six oh two? What is the likelihood with the

1701
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 1: trade deadline approaching and we try and trade to get

1702
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: more draft picks for example, D D. Westbrook isn't active,

1703
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 1: but he could be used by a team looking for

1704
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: more wide receiver. Then yeah, but you're not gonna get

1705
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: any real trade value for d D. Westbrook. What do

1706
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: you think he gonna get back at six seventh rounder?

1707
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Why would you do that? I mean, unless someone willing

1708
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Speaker 1: to give you a third or fourth rounder, I'm not

1709
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 1: sure why you trade d he that depth. He doesn't

1710
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: cost you anything. I mean, I hate it for d

1711
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Speaker 1: D that he has to sit on the bench, but

1712
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure six or seventh rounders. And the forced

1713
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: media real excited about moving the guy that started somebody

1714
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: gets in case somebody gets hurt. Yeah, I keep it.

1715
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: By the way, Shoberd is seven ranked uh inside linebacker.

1716
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: So there's sixty four if you count two for each teams,

1717
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: that's the bottom half. Okay, let's put it by comparison.

1718
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: Miles Jack is number one, as great as ninety one.

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01:33:55,040 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 1: Showbird is forty seven and is great is the nine

1720
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: number one? Yeah, he's been playing so well, but but

1721
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 1: his grade was what I say is grade was Showbert's

1722
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: grade is forty forty seven point eight. That's a significant difference.

1723
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 1: Hut that and and if you want to rank and

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01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:33,680
Speaker 1: run defenses by far as worse, let's not a long

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01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: one more question social question, all right from at sick Win.

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Speaker 1: Have we hit rock bottom yet? And if not, what

1727
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Speaker 1: is the bottom? Well, as they always say, it could

1728
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: always be worse, right, guys, Well, I think this is

1729
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Speaker 1: a question not just this year. I think this is

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Speaker 1: a feeling over the last you know, outside of seventeen,

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Speaker 1: the last decade is probably this comment. I mean, because

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Speaker 1: it's been you know, you haven't been a good football

1733
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Speaker 1: team for a long time outside of out of the

1734
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Speaker 1: side of the one year in seventeen, which was a

1735
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Speaker 1: lot of fun and they got today's championship, almost to

1736
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And so I think the frustration of

1737
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 1: the fan base and everyone's and I get it. I

1738
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 1: mean it's hard to argue, you know, you start one

1739
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: in four and you lose, really you lost three bad

1740
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: games in a row, um, And I think there's a

1741
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: lot of despair and discouragement out there in uh in

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01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: JAG's fan world. Here's how low, here's the lowest that,

1743
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Speaker 1: this is the lowest, this is the lowest that could go.

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Speaker 1: You go one in fifteen and you don't get the

1745
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 1: first pick. That's as low as it can go. Yeah,

1746
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 1: it'd be pretty bad. I mean, he's not wrong because

1747
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: it depresses me thinking about it. That's as bad as

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Speaker 1: it gets. They can't go any lower than that. And

1749
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Speaker 1: remember the whole idea. Oh that ramspick might be pretty

1750
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Speaker 1: good too. It might have another there four and one. Great.

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Speaker 1: Thanks feet for cheering us up. Appreciate that. Thanks for

1752
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: the social media questions tonight. Keep them coming every week

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Speaker 1: here on Diaguars Happy Hour. We're back. In a moment,

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Speaker 1: on this Monday after the Jaguars loss in Houston yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and four, and we'll go through the f C South

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Speaker 1: Let's start around the SEC South, of course. The Texans

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Speaker 1: beat the Jacks for their first win of the season yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the third consecutive team that has beaten the Jags for

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Speaker 1: their first win of the season. The Indianapolis Colts lost

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Speaker 1: to the Browns and the Browns might actually be good

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Speaker 1: and what four one for the first time since it's

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Speaker 1: a ninety four since Bill Belichick was there and Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban was an assistant. And the Titans are playing football

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night for the first time in two weeks. They'll

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Speaker 1: be playing after all those positive tests in the building.

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Speaker 1: They're playing the Bills Josh Allen four and oh and

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Speaker 1: the bill is hot to start. Who you got in

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Speaker 1: that game Tuesday? First of all for the Tennessee Titan,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the Bills. I think the Titans defense is awful.

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Speaker 1: I think thirty points in the last two games. They're

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Speaker 1: not good on defense. I think jo Josh Allen's gonna

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Speaker 1: light them up. And how much have they practiced? Tony

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Speaker 1: as a player, If you don't get a couple of

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Speaker 1: practices and is that bad, well, I think you're a

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Speaker 1: little bit rusty. I mean, you can put the pads

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Speaker 1: be fresh. Let be running around feel good. That's what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Is it? Is it a good thing or

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Speaker 1: is it a bad thing? Um? I can't even comprehend

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Speaker 1: that being out that long, that's two weeks, be very

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Speaker 1: little activity all virtual. I mean, have they put the

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Speaker 1: pads on one time in two weeks? Yeah? I think

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Speaker 1: I think it's um. I think it's a big I

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Speaker 1: think it's a disadvantage as much as players don't like

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Speaker 1: the practice because they want to play games only. I

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Speaker 1: do think, you know, practice doesn't matter, and uh, I

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Speaker 1: think they're at a disadvantage. And I think, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think the Bills have an advantaged even I think the

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Speaker 1: Bills are really good. By the way, the Bills get

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Speaker 1: caught looking ahead to the Chiefs next week. No, I

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Speaker 1: think I think Sean mcderham a really good coach. Me too,

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Speaker 1: me too. So of course, now that we mentioned the

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Speaker 1: Browns over the Colts, Peter, the Brown's good. All of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, they could run it. They leave the league

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Speaker 1: and running. They're a leading And what they've done is

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Speaker 1: they made it so it makes easy throws for Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield when he is in the pocket, though he's threw

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Speaker 1: two terrible interceptions and Rivers played awful yesterday. Did you

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Speaker 1: see how to pick six for the rounds? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison, Yeah, the Browns do really well, Pete. And

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Speaker 1: they can rush the pastor Myles garrettson piece. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: do again. I think Kevin, I I met Kevin Stefansky

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Speaker 1: him a little bit. He is exactly what they needed

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Speaker 1: a hell of a coach. I really do. I think

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Speaker 1: they're on the right moving in the right direction. They're

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Speaker 1: still not great on defense, even though they rushed the pastor,

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Speaker 1: They've lost two games and he cost them both of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think because I mean, see, he's the issue there

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Speaker 1: right now because they're playing good defense, good weapons. They

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01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 1: don't have a new weapons outside either. T y Olton

1877
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 1: can't get going, and so where else is he going

1878
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 1: with it? The tight end Moalley cox is had some

1879
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 1: good games, but where else what do they have? And

1880
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: no speed? Really, So you don't think he's the issue

1881
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,720
Speaker 1: right now? No, I don't think he's playing well at all.

1882
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 1: I think he's an issue. Yes, that's yeah, I know,

1883
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 1: because you love him. So let's get to our power

1884
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 1: rankings going into week six. Actually, with another game in

1885
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: week five remaining tomorrow night Tony get us started. Please

1886
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:56,560
Speaker 1: AFC South Power rankings highly anticipated painful listening to be

1887
01:43:56,640 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 1: a painful segment for me. Um, I'm going Tennessee is

1888
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 1: number one, even though I think the Bills are gonna

1889
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 1: be and I still think they're the best team in

1890
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: the an SC South. Um the culture number two. Um,

1891
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: even though I think I hate to say, because I

1892
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 1: really like Philip Rivers as well as a player, but

1893
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 1: he might be on the doorstep of being done. Um,

1894
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 1: because I think they have a really good defense. They

1895
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: can run the ball. Uh, this is hurts right now

1896
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: where I'm about to say, but I can't deny it.

1897
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: The Texans won, The Texans are three, and the Jags

1898
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 1: are in the door there the doormat there last, I'll

1899
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 1: agree with across the board. I would if if the

1900
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 1: Colts had won, clearly they would have been the best

1901
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 1: team in the division. But the way that Rivers has

1902
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 1: played those two losses, come on, they lost to the Jaguars.

1903
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 1: You should have won that game through two was it

1904
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 1: two picks in that game? And he too yesterday he

1905
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: just he didn't look good. He doesn't look good and

1906
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 1: So there's Pete daily scored twenty points against the Jaguars.

1907
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna bench him? Pete, Well, there's people are asking

1908
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,640
Speaker 1: that question. They asked Frank Reich about it today and

1909
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 1: he said, no, yeah, would you bend him? Not yet? Yeah,

1910
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 1: at least you gotta let him play it out. For

1911
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: so ranked quarterbacks in the AFC the South, Danny Hill

1912
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 1: might be one Watson too, uh minshewn and rivers the

1913
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 1: way he's playing. I mean, that's what I'm saying. I

1914
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 1: think I might agree with you. But you know what, Tony,

1915
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 1: we're killing rivers up until the last week and we

1916
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 1: went and played to the Bears and they won. He

1917
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 1: was completing over seventies something present of his bars is

1918
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 1: but he's still is a hard time drying. He like

1919
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 1: he's another one has a hard time driving it down

1920
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, because he's always been a guy that

1921
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: uses his lower body and torque and drive the ball.

1922
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 1: And I don't think he has any power anymore. Yeah,

1923
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 1: he's just getting old. He's done, probably, Pete, what are

1924
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:02,679
Speaker 1: your power rankings are the same as Tony's? Yes, exactly

1925
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 1: the same, exact No controversy this week. Okay, to get

1926
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 1: blown out. What if the Titans. Let's let's spin it forward.

1927
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 1: What if the Titans kept blown out? It's still I'm

1928
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 1: still picking the Titans over every teams out. Yeah, and

1929
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,640
Speaker 1: they're not that good. They're not that good. It's a

1930
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:23,639
Speaker 1: bad division, alright. So the a f C South Power

1931
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 1: rankings are in and they are negative. We're back in

1932
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 1: a moment, and we'll go around the National Football League,

1933
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1976
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1977
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1984
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1985
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 1: The Jags are taking every precaution to keep fans safe

1986
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1987
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Speaker 1: Visit Jaguars dot com slash Stadium and learn more and

1988
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1989
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Speaker 1: and the Lions coming up at t i A bank

1990
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Speaker 1: Field Jaguars Happy Hour. Let's go around the National Football

1991
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 1: League and our final moments here and recap week number five.

1992
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 1: And the Falcons made moves today after their loss to

1993
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 1: the Panthers six. Demetrough out the general manager and Dan

1994
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: Quinn also out today. Pete in Atlanta after an oh

1995
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: and five starts. Yeah, that's one of those situations where

1996
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 1: he came back last year he's gonna get fired. Last

1997
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 1: year he rallied him and they said, Okay, we'll give

1998
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 1: me a shot to turn it around, and you go

1999
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,040
Speaker 1: oh and five and blow double digit leads. I mean,

2000
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:55,440
Speaker 1: they had to make a change, and it's not surprising.

2001
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 1: And as far as the METROF you usually get two

2002
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,679
Speaker 1: coaches and you're done. That's pretty simple in the NFL,

2003
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 1: not surprising, Tony. I hate because I like both those guys,

2004
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 1: and I really like Dan Queennez in person, and you know,

2005
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 1: I think he's a good football coaches and it was

2006
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 1: time to make a change. I get it why I

2007
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 1: hated for him, And I really like Thomas de me Trump.

2008
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of good conversations with them, and

2009
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 1: if you look at they had, they're probably one of

2010
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 1: the greatest runs in the history of the franchise under him,

2011
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 1: um for a little up until the last three years.

2012
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 1: So I hate it for both those guys, but it

2013
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 1: is the NFL, and this is how this business works.

2014
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 1: They never really recovered from that Super Bowl loss when

2015
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 1: they had the big lead, and they were never the

2016
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:39,800
Speaker 1: same organization really after that point. Obviously, they didn't really

2017
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 1: recover from that. The Ravens over the Bengals three dominant,

2018
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: seven sacks of Borrow. The Ravens are pretty good here,

2019
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 1: Pete obviously well, but Lamar Jackson is not playing like

2020
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 1: he did a year ago. Inaccurate. Yeah, he's got her

2021
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 1: shooting the ball over the place. It's just not good

2022
01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: right now. And he's kind of pick up his game now.

2023
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 1: He was dinged a little bit and didn't practice last week,

2024
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 1: so he didn't run as much. But you know how

2025
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 1: I feel, Tony. I think once you have to be

2026
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 1: able to throw from the pocket, because once the ability

2027
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,559
Speaker 1: to run the way he's run so far goes away,

2028
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 1: the teams defend them differently. And it's never. You don't

2029
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: get faster as you get older. We we know, I

2030
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 1: believe me. I can speak from experience, and I know

2031
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 1: old man to spell. He can speak from experience as well.

2032
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: You don't get older as you You don't get faster

2033
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 1: to get older. So eventually he's got to start playing

2034
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 1: inside that pocket and making frozen there. And uh, he's

2035
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 1: not playing that well right now. And I thought he

2036
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: made progress last year and that and um even earlier.

2037
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 1: Yere he I thought. But then all of a sudden,

2038
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 1: that Thursday night game I did, he was all over

2039
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 1: the place, inaccurate, didn't play well. I didn't, and you know,

2040
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: and then the Kansas City game, I'm sorry on Thursday,

2041
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 1: the Monday night game against Kansas City, he just did

2042
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 1: not Man, he was just so inaccurate. And yeah, and

2043
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 1: he hasn't played great the last two weeks. They've won

2044
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 1: football games because they have some talent and he can

2045
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 1: still beat with his legs to you, so athletic. But

2046
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:03,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna play better. I think he will. He's a

2047
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 1: competitive defense. Won that game yesterday. They got all of

2048
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. We can't they can't pretend. I know, well

2049
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: they protected against one team. Let's move along. The Raiders

2050
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 1: over the Chiefs forty to thirty two. And well, they

2051
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 1: called it. They said, in order for this to be

2052
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 1: a rivalry, the Raiders said they gotta win some of

2053
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 1: these games against the Chiefs. They went out and did it.

2054
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 1: Derek Carr had our car had a nice game yesterday.

2055
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: He did have a nice game, and that A couple

2056
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 1: of things about that game. One Antonio will know this.

2057
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:38,679
Speaker 1: The Chiefs play offensive line is not playing very well. There,

2058
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 1: you know right right tackle Mitchell Schwartz played great last year.

2059
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 1: He's not playing very well. The rest of the line's

2060
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 1: not playing well. He's taking too many shots, and I

2061
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,639
Speaker 1: think teams are starting to make him like Gus Bradley

2062
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 1: always does, make him be patient, and he doesn't like it.

2063
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't like it at all. And they did a

2064
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 1: really good job. The Raiders. They spied him the whole

2065
01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 1: game with RD and key. They did a lot of

2066
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 1: really creative things, and uh, I think it's they got

2067
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 1: to pick it up. And they played the Bills next

2068
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 1: week the Chiefs and they lost the left tackle assembly

2069
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:10,799
Speaker 1: he was card off the build, I mean guard injury,

2070
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 1: the guard guard to Tornell attendance in both knees. Yes,

2071
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 1: and the same play. Yes, how does that happen? Happened

2072
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: a wide receiver named Wendell Davis years ago, and it

2073
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 1: happens to Bronco player once as well. That it's it's weird.

2074
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: He's done. Agreed with everything you said. Pete Cardinals over

2075
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 1: the Jets thirty to ten. The Jets are awful. The

2076
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 1: Steelers over the Eagles thirty eight twenty nine, and not

2077
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 1: too far down the road, the Jags get the Steelers

2078
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool receivers everywhere. Every single year, they've been looking

2079
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 1: at Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders always guys, they've always find

2080
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 1: him in the you know, second Brown and he hasn't

2081
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 1: done anything this year. Deante Johnson, who didn't play, got

2082
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: hurt yesterday. There there, I'll tell you what get them early,

2083
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be good late in the season when

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Speaker 1: that offense all gets together and plays the entire year.

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Speaker 1: They play the Browns speak, that's an interesting game. That

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01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 1: would be a good game. That's a good football game

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01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 1: because that's a good defense. And see how good that

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Speaker 1: run games. They didn't play well on defense yesterday, Tony,

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Speaker 1: they didn't well. Wentz played good, which I was happy

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Speaker 1: for him. I mean, and he's played with a bunch

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Speaker 1: of don name receivers. He actually played pretty well. Yeah,

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01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: Rams over Washington thirty to ten. The big story though,

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith back playing after two years of rehab. What

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Speaker 1: a story. It's amazing. I mean, it was a great

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01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: story to see and it's it's so terrible when you

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01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 1: think his rehab to get back and he plays and

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Speaker 1: on the same day Dak Prescott just an awful injury.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, but his injury was not as bad as

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Speaker 1: al Smith. No, Alex Smith had the knee and it

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01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 1: was all but they did have a compound fracture. So

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Speaker 1: they had a surgery last night to make sure the

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Speaker 1: wound was not getting infected in anything. So that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened. To h what happened to Alex Fifth

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Speaker 1: He basically got infection in their acceptance. Yeah, terrible. And

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys rallied to win that game, by the way,

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Speaker 1: over the Giants thirty seven to thirty four. The Dolphins

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Speaker 1: they're not very good. The Cowboys are the football games. No,

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Speaker 1: their defense is terrible. Dolphins went out to San fran

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Speaker 1: and knocked off Totin forty three to seventeen. What well,

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Speaker 1: when Ryan Fitzpatrick gets hot, man, there's no stop at him.

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Speaker 1: You know, when he gets hot, he is unbelievable. But

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01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 1: he can get really cold. He was hot right from

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Speaker 1: the start. Forty Niners are terrible. They're playing like fourth

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01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 1: stringers in the second there it's they can't rush the

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01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: pastor the bad defense right now. And Garoppolo was terrible.

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna move on from Garopolo after the year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. They might. They might eat I mean,

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01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 1: he was coming off an injury and he could see

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01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't fully. But they play the Rams Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, that's a survival test almost all now. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then the Seahawks rallied. Russell Wilson, your guy Pete

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01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 1: had a big game and a big rally. Again that's

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Speaker 1: not the story though. Would you have gone for it

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Speaker 1: on fourth down or would you have kick to make

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Speaker 1: it eight? I like that he went for you need inches.

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Speaker 1: If you can't get inches, what are you doing? By

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Speaker 1: the way, I sent out a screenshot on Twitter and

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01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 1: from uh the run there is the now the fullback

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Speaker 1: is the fullback lead, so he takes on the linebacker.

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Speaker 1: But Tony, all he has to do is make one

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Speaker 1: little bounce to the right and he walks in. He

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Speaker 1: walks in. Yeah, I think I like that because, like,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you're telling me you're gonna go bet

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Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson not getting two point conversion? Right, Okay,

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01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 1: it's like start, that's probably the thirty or something. But

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Speaker 1: I to the kickoff here. You were running right through

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Speaker 1: them the whole game. And by the way, that's right,

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01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 1: and they have a terrible defense, and if you get

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Speaker 1: an inch, you win the game. The percentages I think

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Speaker 1: would tell you to go for it. If you want

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Speaker 1: to go to this whole analytics book. I think the

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Speaker 1: analystics they go for it because of the percentages. I

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Speaker 1: was told to tell me, if you think if do

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Speaker 1: you think that guy should have scored a touchdown. It's

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Speaker 1: so hard. You take pictures and like it's like, yeah,

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01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 1: he's still he still should I was told there would

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01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 1: be no math Monday night football. Justin Herbert is the

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Speaker 1: man in l A for the one and three Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers, and this week they'll head to New Orleans

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Speaker 1: to face one of the all time greats and Drew

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01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 1: Brees and the two and two Saints. No Michael Thomas,

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Speaker 1: he sucked a teammate during practice this week. Who you

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Speaker 1: got in the Superdome tonight? I'm taking the Saint. I

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01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be close. I think Herbert's gonna play well.

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Speaker 1: By the way, good Ford Sean Payton, that must have

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01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:56,960
Speaker 1: been a nasty fight. Because you've got Tony, You've been

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Speaker 1: around practice fights. Somebody must have punched he must Did

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Speaker 1: it go the question I have? Did it go into

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Speaker 1: the locker room afterwards? And that's where the punch happened?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna go the practice field. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've been involved in the fights when I've been on teams.

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Speaker 1: When the fight goes into the locker room and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, guys are gonna whack what team, Tony,

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01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 1: what team? What team? Tell us more. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you more. Um, but it must

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01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: have been bad because typically coaches don't suspend a guy

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01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:30,480
Speaker 1: for a fight on the practice fields. Gone, he must

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Speaker 1: have been out of control. I'm gonna pick the sins too,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's really close. I think my biggest

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Speaker 1: concern about the charges no Joey Bosto, or at least

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01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 1: it's questionable. I don't know if he's gonna play night.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna hurt him. All right, See you next week, Tony.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli. I'm j P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: Will catch you next week. Jaguars Happy Hour on the

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