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Speaker 2: That and more coming up. There's been new stories concerning

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Speaker 2: the Antifa activists Antifa standing for anti fascists. They have

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Speaker 2: shown up it appears in Atlanta, Georgia, and one of

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Speaker 2: now to a man that's actually well. He was once

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Speaker 1: Gabrielle Nadali's is on with us. Gabrielle, welcome, thank you

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Speaker 1: for having me on. It's good to have you on here.

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Speaker 3: So the best way to really understand antifa is to

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Speaker 1: They spend months and months doing this. What did you

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Speaker 3: It's a political theory that basically believes in anarchism. So

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Speaker 1: So there are enough people infiltrated the media and CNN

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Behind the Black Mask, My time as an Antifa activist.

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Speaker 1: The freeways divide the mountains, right, Yes, so the four

435
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Speaker 1: or five keeps the lions that live on the western

436
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Speaker 1: side apart from those who live on the eastern side. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I see, which is they don't they don't. Yeah, they

438
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Speaker 1: don't mix genetically. And the same thing uh on the

439
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Speaker 1: one O one oh there, which is which is why

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Speaker 1: they're there. I think that also splits east and west.

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Speaker 1: As as as the road turns to the north towards

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Speaker 1: Ventura and they're building, they're building that wildlife overpass to

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Speaker 1: go from one side to the other.

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling whoever did this didn't It was

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Speaker 2: like a hit and run, because I don't believe they

446
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Speaker 2: just found the mountain lion's body and they're determining when

447
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: they're going to do a necropacy something. Somebody determined. Yeah,

448
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: somebody hit them and kept going.

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Speaker 1: Somebody drove home with a real busted up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, a four year old mountain lion

451
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Speaker 2: will be sizable, very sad. Yeah, I told you we're

452
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Speaker 2: gonna have a moment of silence that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm just I'm just looking how many what's the

454
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Speaker 1: mountain out in line population near Los Angeles? And yeah,

455
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Speaker 1: this answer says about two dozen.

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Speaker 2: That ain't mine which now, but that's if you're saying

457
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Speaker 2: near Los Angeles. That excludes probably being way up there in.

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, right, I don't know what with the it's

459
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Speaker 1: National Park Service. P.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two is the only one that was in Griffith Park.

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Speaker 2: That's why they thought that was rather unusual, because he

462
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Speaker 2: had crossed the one on one on the four h

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Speaker 2: five to get there.

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Speaker 1: The National Park Service says they think ten to fifteen

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Speaker 1: adult mountain lions in the Santa Monica Mountains. P.

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Speaker 2: Eighty one is the thirty fourth mountain lion since two

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Speaker 2: thousand and two to die from road mortality they call it.

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Speaker 2: And of that number, thirteen were colored. They had the

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Speaker 2: radio color. That's why they called it thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now on to the real world of the homeless. We

472
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Speaker 2: talked before about how La Metro with the subways has

473
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Speaker 2: had a problem. Well, they don't really care, except people

474
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Speaker 2: were complaining that when they get to the end of

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Speaker 2: the line, such as in Long Beach, the train that

476
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Speaker 2: comes from downtown Los Angeles to Long Beach, the vagrants

477
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Speaker 2: get off and just start wandering the streets. Basically, what

478
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Speaker 2: you have is sort of a rolling, mentally ill asylum

479
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Speaker 2: of homeless people. Metro is it's not going to change

480
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Speaker 2: their policy of emptying the trains with the passengers at night,

481
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Speaker 2: but apparently what they want to do is put in

482
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Speaker 2: service hubs at thirteen rail line end points to hopefully

483
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Speaker 2: deal better with the homeless that get off and hook

484
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Speaker 2: them up with services so they're not wandering the streets.

485
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Speaker 2: Story goes on to say that some of the workers

486
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Speaker 2: they felt endangered because they go on to clean the

487
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Speaker 2: trains at the end of the line and maybe they

488
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Speaker 2: have to move the homeless out of the way to

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Speaker 2: do some mopping and cleaning and a get hostile situations.

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Speaker 1: These people are dangerous, They create disgusting conditions, so of

491
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Speaker 1: course passengers aren't normal people aren't going to take the trains.

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Speaker 1: And who wants to work under those conditions. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's so obvious. I cannot imagine while the metro board

494
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Speaker 1: and the CEO is Stephanie Wiggins, she must be a

495
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Speaker 1: piece of work. You just ban all these homeless people

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Speaker 1: from the train period. You never let them get on.

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Speaker 2: They don't pay, they usually don't pay.

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Speaker 1: They don't pay it that there's a good enough reason

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Speaker 1: right there. You don't even have to get into a

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Speaker 1: civil rights argument. You don't have the money, you don't

501
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Speaker 1: get a ride.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have somebody go on the trains and try

503
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Speaker 2: to check and see if somebody has paid the fare,

504
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Speaker 2: and if they didn't, they're off at the next stop.

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Speaker 1: Because they're not being used for transportation.

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Speaker 2: Being it's a shelter, it's a rolling shelter.

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Speaker 1: It's a shelter, so you don't have any any obligation

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Speaker 1: to let people on just to live there. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand why they're so timid about this, because the passengers

510
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Speaker 1: who would use it for transportation, if there are any left.

511
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Speaker 1: Aren't going to.

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Speaker 2: The other places. They are having problems. And I think

513
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Speaker 2: we talked to a resident one time at Azusa. There's

514
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Speaker 2: apparently the Gold Line ends there, and then we have

515
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Speaker 2: the western terminus of the E Line formerly the Expo

516
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Speaker 2: Line in Santa Monica, and the Azuza mayor says, my

517
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: residents tell me there have been dozens of homeless. The

518
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: residents say they're boisterous, they camp right there at the promenade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same story over and over again. Thirty

520
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Speaker 1: nine on average, thirty nine riders exit the train every

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Speaker 1: night in downtown Long Beach.

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Speaker 2: Oh, listen to this. They might copy the idea. Philadelphia

523
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: has the hub of hope at the end of the

524
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Speaker 2: train lines. They built a place with the showers, case

525
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: managers and counseling services. But Metro says funding is going

526
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Speaker 2: to be an issue. Really, Oh, you know what I heard?

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Speaker 2: I think it was Paul Greccorian, right, is the president

528
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Speaker 2: of the council now is Yeah? Oh, I heard him

529
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Speaker 2: on the radio this morning. He said, well, if they're

530
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Speaker 2: going to ask us for money, no, we already spent

531
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Speaker 2: huge sums of money on the homeless in Lang we're

532
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 2: not giving Metro money for their service hubs.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of a Metro has billions of dollars.

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they want to make riding the subways and

535
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Speaker 2: buses free. That's the next big movement that's going on.

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Speaker 1: So well, if the only people using them are the

537
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Speaker 1: homeless and they're not paying anyway, there isn't much money

538
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 1: at stake there. Ridership is very low among normal people

539
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: and the homeless aren't paying, and they don't enforce people

540
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: who don't pay fares. Whether you're homeless or not.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this. An average of thirty nine homeless writers

542
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: exit that Long Beach train every night between December seventh

543
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: and December tenth, and December twelfth and thirteenth, Metro count

544
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: to two hundred and thirty four people getting kicked off

545
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Speaker 2: the four A line trains. Oh my goodness, this complete.

546
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Speaker 1: This is the anarchy. This is the anarchic breakdown of

547
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Here, it's not just outside groups creating mayhem.

548
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: It's the inside bureaucracy. It's people like Stephanie Wiggins, incapable,

549
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: unwilling to do what's obvious and throw these people off

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Speaker 1: the trains and keep them off block them, spend the money,

551
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: get the security and ban them. I mean, no one

552
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: is gonna question that strategy.

553
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: All right, We got more coming up. It's Johnny Kenshaw

554
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: on kf I am six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. Yes,

555
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: something funny.

556
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Speaker 1: I can't share, No, I can't.

557
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: So these things always come like seconds before you're about

558
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: to speak. Something cracks you up.

559
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm I'm reading stuff, you know, during the commercial break.

560
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: And oh, I'm aware of that. Sometimes do you wait

561
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: for the music prompt to say, oh, that's right, we're

562
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: doing something here. I gotta come back on and say something.

563
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: I just read something just incredibly insensitive, that's all, which

564
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Speaker 1: was also very funny.

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Speaker 2: Which you find funny. Yes, Coming up in the three

566
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Speaker 2: o'clock hour, we'll take a look at the Paul Pelosi case.

567
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: They have released video and audio from the attack on

568
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Speaker 2: Paul Pelosi last October at their Pelosi home in San Francisco. This,

569
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Speaker 2: of course, David de Pepe is the attacker's name and

570
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: strange story still, but a few things got cleared up.

571
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Speaker 2: We'll play the nine to one to one called and

572
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: talk about it. That will be followed by the Moiceline

573
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: part one. The Moiceline Part two is at the end

574
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: of the show, and in between we will toss somebody

575
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Speaker 2: into the dumpster. The big national story today also concerns

576
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Speaker 2: bodycam police video. This, of course, is from Memphis, Tennessee,

577
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Speaker 2: where a couple of weeks ago, a black motorist was

578
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Speaker 2: stopped by the police and beaten, and he died several

579
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Speaker 2: days later in the hospital. His name is Tyree Nichols,

580
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Speaker 2: and they're telling us that this was a ferocious beating

581
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Speaker 2: by the five police officers involved. They were immediately removed

582
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Speaker 2: from the force and then charged with murder, so it

583
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Speaker 2: appears that they've taken care of the legal aspect of

584
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Speaker 2: this case rather quickly. Of course, their lawyer is only

585
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Speaker 2: complaining that they're also charged with kidnapping, which is kind

586
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Speaker 2: of an odd They would charge with a second degree murder,

587
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Speaker 2: but they also face kidnapping charges, which is described as

588
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Speaker 2: the unlawful confinement of a person while restrained. The lawyer said,

589
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Speaker 2: if it was a legal definition to begin with, it

590
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Speaker 2: certainly becomes illegal at a certain point, and was unlawful detention.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is supposed to be worse than the Rodney

592
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Speaker 1: King beating. According to insiders who've seen the.

593
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Speaker 2: Welly died, so I would imagine so and knew I

594
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Speaker 2: thought of was Kelly Thomas. That's why I thought of

595
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Speaker 2: when I saw this, Kelly Thomas. Of course, this is

596
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: going back to twenty eleven, the homeless man in Orange

597
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: County who was beaten by several Fullerton police officers and

598
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Speaker 2: he died sometime later in a hospital.

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Speaker 1: And the police chief in Memphis says, we're going to

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Speaker 1: see acts in the bodycam video that defy humanity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really. I don't know whether or not they're

602
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: doing that just to get people prepared, or whether maybe

603
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Speaker 2: won't be so bad when they see it because they're

604
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Speaker 2: hearing all this, they're thinking this is going to be

605
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Speaker 2: so horrendous.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be released. It's seven o'clock Memphis time.

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Speaker 1: O'clock actually six o'clock Memphis time, because they're in the

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Speaker 1: Central time zone. Why would you release the video when

609
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Speaker 1: it's already dark, because if there is going to be rioting, Well,

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Speaker 1: I did hear.

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Speaker 2: One official say it's because it's late on a Friday,

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Speaker 2: we think it'll get as much coverage or as much

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Speaker 2: reaction because and this is that idea of dumping bad

614
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Speaker 2: news John late on a Friday night.

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Speaker 1: Does that work anymore with the twenty four hour internet?

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Speaker 2: That's all I heard on cable channels.

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Speaker 1: People are going to see this all over social media

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Speaker 1: and that's where everybody is all the time.

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Speaker 2: Now. Just the victim was black and the five cops

620
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Speaker 2: are black, so race is kind of off the table.

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Speaker 2: But I think where this is heading is just the

622
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Speaker 2: anti police fura that's out there. Well, we're going to

623
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Speaker 2: see maybe race doesn't matter anymore, people are just tired

624
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Speaker 2: of the police.

625
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Speaker 1: Or we're going to see how much of the riots

626
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Speaker 1: two years ago was about police or how much was

627
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Speaker 1: it to you know, scream white supremacy. Oh, there was

628
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: Floyd moment in the George Floyd movement. It was a

629
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Speaker 1: lot of that. And was that the bigger issue than

630
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Speaker 1: the police now? Depends, you know, it depends on the group.

631
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Speaker 1: We'll see. But uh this, uh, I mean Derek Shavin

632
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: when he did to George Floyd, he's he remember they

633
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Speaker 1: put the knee on the neck. So this was a

634
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Speaker 1: slow torturous death.

635
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Speaker 2: This Yeah, I think this one is just a ferocious beating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I heard one of the I think it

637
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Speaker 1: was one of the attorneys talking today that these guys

638
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: have been known to beat up a lot of citizens,

639
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Speaker 1: that they're.

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Speaker 2: All these particular offices are just the Memphis play.

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Speaker 1: They're they're they're they're part of a group, like the

642
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Speaker 1: Scorpion Unit.

643
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: Oh, like these police gangs.

644
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a police gang or it's

645
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Speaker 1: a special unit to unit deal with certain kinds of crime.

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Speaker 2: Supposedly he was reckless driving, which yeah, I'm not even

647
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Speaker 2: that's true.

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Speaker 1: I know. Well, that's the thing is right now, you're

649
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Speaker 1: gonna get You're gonna get news that's false. There's gonna

650
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: be a lot of false news floating around. That's just

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Speaker 1: the nature of these stories. So we're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: wait until the official reports come out, you know, from courts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've yet to read anything that in any

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Speaker 2: way defends these officers. So I don't know why I'm

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Speaker 2: going to see after four o'clock, but I'm not reading

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Speaker 2: a lot that says that, you know, there was a

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Speaker 2: reason for them beating this man who apparently is six

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Speaker 2: foot three but only weighs one hundred and fifty pounds,

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Speaker 2: so he was not really a big or a strong guy.

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Speaker 2: He's tall guy, but not a particularly hefty guy. That's

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Speaker 2: that's Tyree, apparently according to his family. So I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I guess all five, Well, we'll find out with the

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Speaker 2: video just what. But they're warning people that this is

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Speaker 2: going to be horrendous, and of course there is a

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Speaker 2: really on watch in Memphis and really the whole state

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Speaker 2: of Tennessee, hoping that the protests are peaceful as usual

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Speaker 2: whatever comes out of this. He did linger on life

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Speaker 2: support for three days.

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Speaker 1: Four bailed. Four of the cops have bailed out already,

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Speaker 1: Yes they have.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, says here. An ambulance arrived at the scene

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Speaker 2: to aid Nichols, but only after some period of time

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Speaker 2: of waiting around. That's also kind of weird. So you know,

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Speaker 2: but George Floyd, they didn't really care if you got

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Speaker 2: a medical helper.

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Speaker 1: This this is a lot of this stuff goes down

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Speaker 1: in the real world. You know. Despite all the protests

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Speaker 1: and all the media coverage, you can't change human nature now.

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Speaker 1: And there are certain police officers who very violent, probably

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Speaker 1: easily could have been criminals, and they bonded together some

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Speaker 1: kind of gang. I mean, we certainly have that in

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Speaker 1: La in the big to police departments and it's it's

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Speaker 1: always gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The lawyer for the Nichols family says that they

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Speaker 2: acted together as a pack of wolves to inflict harm, terrorism,

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Speaker 2: oppression of liberty, oppression of constitutional rights, which led to murder.

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Speaker 2: And there could have been the ferocia And you and

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Speaker 2: I have seen this after some chases in the past.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes the cops are just so adrendal and fueled, right yeah,

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Speaker 2: and they're like this guy, you let it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we kind of died driving these roads, and it just

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Speaker 2: they get to them. They just can't help themselves. They

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Speaker 2: just start womping on them.

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Speaker 1: Guy, guys, Well, because human beings lose control. You got

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Speaker 1: a different adrenaline pumping in you if you've been in

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Speaker 1: a life threatening situation or a situation you perceived his

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Speaker 1: life threatening. Uh yeah, you're gonna you're gonna unleash all

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Speaker 1: this adrenaline, all this fury. You're you're now you're just

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Speaker 1: you're just chemicals that are flooding your brain and triggering

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Speaker 1: your violent reactions.

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Speaker 2: Some are saying that unlike other cases, they did X swiftly.

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Speaker 2: Here they got the body cam and I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: charging these guys with murder already, because.

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Speaker 1: When when this happened? Did you hear about the story?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 2: Did not?

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Speaker 1: Five six days ago? Yeah? I didn't hear about it

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Speaker 1: until the arrests were announced. I heard about it before

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Speaker 1: the arrests were announced. I think when he died I

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Speaker 1: heard about it, but uh, it was not a big story. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think this happened. What day was it?

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Speaker 1: Two weeks ago? I think five six days ago? I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh the actual the actual beating. Yeah, oh okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: well maybe if I'm wrong, then I thought I saw

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Speaker 2: a date earlier than that. But uh, all right, when

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Speaker 2: we come back, we'll talk about the uh Paul Pelosi

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Speaker 2: getting hit with the hammer. It was January seventh, John,

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Speaker 2: So I'm right, it was a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Has January seventh? He died on the tenth.

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Speaker 1: Now, No, seriously, how does it go this long twenty

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Speaker 1: days before becoming a major story.

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Speaker 2: I think because the bodycam video became more seen by

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Speaker 2: more people, maybe within the police and prosecutors' offices, and

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Speaker 2: that became wow, this is indefensible. I guess. All right,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about the uh we re released bodycam video,

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Speaker 2: Capitol Police surveillance video nine one one call audio of

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