Speaker 1: We're gonna do the things. We're gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: building walls in America in Europe, but let me tell you,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about building longer tables. So I'm
Speaker 1: trying to interview and start the interview with Jose Andres.
Speaker 1: Jose Andres is trying to order some wine. It is
Speaker 1: one thirty in the afternoon, and Jose is ready to open.
Speaker 1: This is your first bottle. I'm sorry, but these seven
Speaker 1: ft in Europe, yes, at night, but it's also you know,
Speaker 1: in in Japan, it's early tomorrow morning, early in the
Speaker 1: middle of Jose Andre's is one of the most revered
Speaker 1: chefs in the United States. He runs an empire of
Speaker 1: more than thirty restaurants. He threw his passion and energy
Speaker 1: into creating the World Central Kitchen in two thousand and
Speaker 1: ten to feed the hungry, and has fed millions of
Speaker 1: people around the world. I and many others consider him
Speaker 1: a national treasure, and I am so happy to have
Speaker 1: him here on my podcast. Welcome Jose, Thank you. And
Speaker 1: Jose has just gotten back from I guess the last
Speaker 1: the last it was Hurricane Ian and you were down
Speaker 1: in Pine Island, and what did you find there when
Speaker 1: you went well. Unfortunately, is the same destruction that we
Speaker 1: see after every hurricane. This was difficult hurricane season because
Speaker 1: we had to back to back and both normally unfortunately Florida,
Speaker 1: but many other countries in the Caribbean. Fiona followed by Ian.
Speaker 1: It's a mayhem and I always said we need to
Speaker 1: be ready. So we had teams Wolan getting very much
Speaker 1: in five countries, including in the United States, Puerto Rico
Speaker 1: and Florida around for Mayor. But this is the situation
Speaker 1: we were bolting with to be very quick next to
Speaker 1: the people. Um. Fortunately, this hurricane seems to keep happening,
Speaker 1: and the good thing is that when you are next
Speaker 1: to the people, reconstruction can always start quicker, faster. We
Speaker 1: provide relief faster, people can hope for a better tomorrow. Well,
Speaker 1: when disaster strikes, How do you know when it's time
Speaker 1: for you to make an appearance with your millions of meals,
Speaker 1: your your fantastic staff of volunteers, how do you know? Well,
Speaker 1: for me, obviously, I'm I'm I'm very proud, yes to
Speaker 1: be the founder. But this organization only exists because he's
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people that think like me and
Speaker 1: I think like them, so myself obviously, I always try
Speaker 1: to make myself available. My wife is the one that
Speaker 1: always has my backpack ready. We don't even talk the
Speaker 1: backpackage ready. When he's very massive. When every hand counts
Speaker 1: is when I usually show up because it's also where
Speaker 1: I have probably the most experience um smaller events, even
Speaker 1: every every mill count We have so many good people
Speaker 1: right now that it's a joy to see how poor
Speaker 1: records are able to debate the local pol ricans to
Speaker 1: do it myself when I see something it's really major
Speaker 1: that can use my experience. I love to join the
Speaker 1: teams that w Wasn't Drugen like one more volunteer and
Speaker 1: get on my own missions uh and try and used
Speaker 1: to provide relief as quick as we can. Well, just
Speaker 1: yesterday I read about the terrible floods in Nigeria. We
Speaker 1: are very maximized and in the area. Probably as we
Speaker 1: are speaking, some of the teams of Wozn't Drugen are
Speaker 1: looking into it already, or maybe somebody's flying there. But
Speaker 1: remember that worn't Druggen we are. The organization has less
Speaker 1: than eighty people on Peru. Sometimes we're able to grow
Speaker 1: two hundreds or even thousands, like Ukraine that we put
Speaker 1: more than three four thousand Ukrainians in the word Central
Speaker 1: Kitchen team doing more than hundred seven million meals. But
Speaker 1: we are trying to grow because this keeps happening. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that in Venezuela it's been also a
Speaker 1: huge flooding in the last few days and we had
Speaker 1: teams on the ground within hours. So every day, more
Speaker 1: and more we try to be everywhere. But the world
Speaker 1: is a very big place that unfortunately climate change is
Speaker 1: really having an impact, and more and more things are happening,
Speaker 1: So we're trying to grow to be there in every
Speaker 1: one of these events when there is a storm or
Speaker 1: there is some natural flood or crazy whether do you
Speaker 1: follow where FEMA goes or do you make your own call.
Speaker 1: We make our own calls with the teams of Walzano Kitchen.
Speaker 1: Obviously every single hurricane in America were present, and in
Speaker 1: major fire we are present. Tornadoes were present. The team
Speaker 1: members of us the kitchen, they you you get it inside,
Speaker 1: you get the instinct. Hurricane is obviously obviously we tried
Speaker 1: to be before the hurricane hits. So it's a very
Speaker 1: interesting moment because the teams. They have to position themselves
Speaker 1: in a place they were safe, but at the same
Speaker 1: time in a place that we can't respond very quickly.
Speaker 1: So did you do that for the west coast of Florida?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we had that. And yet the government of Florida,
Speaker 1: even the governor of Florida, did not make it imperative
Speaker 1: that people get out of the way of Ian Sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes they have enough difficulty. Was trying to do what
Speaker 1: we do ourselves at Walsandra Guichen too, to try to
Speaker 1: be more a critic of of what other governors do
Speaker 1: of Fima. This was a very complicated hurricane, I will say,
Speaker 1: because for many days, even a week, ten days before.
Speaker 1: Remember some of these hurricanes they form in the Atlantic
Speaker 1: and they start moving slowly, there are a tropical depression,
Speaker 1: and you don't know if they're gonna become a hurricane.
Speaker 1: And then everybody knew that was going to be having
Speaker 1: a very different cool um path and nobody was going
Speaker 1: to be very sure where was going to end. We
Speaker 1: were even thinking a good goal all the way to
Speaker 1: the Panhandle. It's a lot of territory. So what do
Speaker 1: you do? That's the call? Do you tell everybody in
Speaker 1: the coast lines all across the Gulf of Mexico to
Speaker 1: move away. Um. But what I would say that we
Speaker 1: would have been good too, because there were a lot
Speaker 1: of people. Over a hundred people died and people mostly
Speaker 1: elderly people who couldn't get out. But we need to have,
Speaker 1: if anything, we have the technology, we have the ways
Speaker 1: that we need to put that the service of the people.
Speaker 1: That technology for goodness and that will mean for tsunamis
Speaker 1: that will mean for an earthquake, Um, fortunate. It is
Speaker 1: very hard to to know when it's gonna ahead. But yes,
Speaker 1: what people can do after, but especially hurricane we need
Speaker 1: to do maybe better in in in in something the
Speaker 1: red the red flag and the alarm to say please
Speaker 1: live right now. The issue is that depends where you
Speaker 1: are wrote bridges. Sometimes it's very narrow the escape routes
Speaker 1: and becomes very very complex. That the difficult thing is
Speaker 1: do we tell everybody to escape? And all the time
Speaker 1: we have with the hurricane arriving thousands of cars in
Speaker 1: the middle of the road, what people do with the
Speaker 1: boats becomes super super complex. So did you do a
Speaker 1: Senter Belle wells Annibal. A lot of when we landed
Speaker 1: there the homes. There are bigger constructions, better constructions. I
Speaker 1: think it's more a second home kind of island. But
Speaker 1: there were people stranded where where where people stranded. But
Speaker 1: obviously I will say everybody, one person that suffers is
Speaker 1: one too many. But I will say the place we
Speaker 1: saw more and more and more people that was obviously
Speaker 1: Pine Island. But this happened also for me that a
Speaker 1: lot of people decide for my beach, a lot of
Speaker 1: people stay, and this was a bad call. But again
Speaker 1: it's only one two ways in an out of forms beach.
Speaker 1: When when the alarm is non, dosn't somebody quickly? Is
Speaker 1: always too late because sometimes it's even more than yours
Speaker 1: to be on the boat trying to cross the bridge
Speaker 1: as the hurricane arrives and maybe staying in your home again. Hurricanes,
Speaker 1: they are highly unpredictable. This one was one of the
Speaker 1: most unpredictable hurricanes. And we've been able to follow and
Speaker 1: everybody was expecting Saint Petersburg and Tampa, and you saw
Speaker 1: this made the very big right, the very big going east,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the sudden people were unprepared and
Speaker 1: that's why we saw so many deaths. And now just
Speaker 1: get all the subject of disaster and get on with food.
Speaker 1: Jose Is was first known here in the United States
Speaker 1: as a Spanish chef with a pension for knowing what
Speaker 1: the public really loved to eat. And you started some
Speaker 1: amazing restaurants. You have restaurants in New York, you have
Speaker 1: restaurants in Washington, d C. You have restaurants in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Ron Howard did a fantastic documentary on you called We
Speaker 1: Feed People. And so it's not just restaurants, but of
Speaker 1: course your World Central Kitchen and UH. In two thousand
Speaker 1: and ten, after being a very successful restaurateur, and you
Speaker 1: could have just continued to open restaurants, you decided to
Speaker 1: start World Central Kitchen. So you had already responded to
Speaker 1: natural disasters before that. But why did you feel the
Speaker 1: need that you, as a person an individual, should start
Speaker 1: such an organization which would have such a major impact
Speaker 1: in areas of disaster. But I had to go back
Speaker 1: to probably you know, my mom my dad were nurses,
Speaker 1: and they always were great nurses, and they were always
Speaker 1: great influence on me and their friends and me going
Speaker 1: to hospitals often because because I went very often UH
Speaker 1: to to see them on waiting for them to take
Speaker 1: me home. And I always saw the amazing people and
Speaker 1: nurses and doctors and everybody that works in a hospital
Speaker 1: because they you always see they got the extra mile. Obviously,
Speaker 1: my father loved to cook, my mom too. Everybody will
Speaker 1: always be working home in the table or my father
Speaker 1: will be cooking. Big bias, always very generous in this sense.
Speaker 1: We could be then we could be fifty. That's a matter.
Speaker 1: My father always will find a way to feed everybody.
Speaker 1: Moving into the stage was important for me, especially because
Speaker 1: it's when I joined our organization could share our strength
Speaker 1: created by Bill Short and his sister Debbie, and sure
Speaker 1: strength is the way I began use sharing what I
Speaker 1: knew about cooking with people that could learn how to cook,
Speaker 1: maximize the dollars they had they were poor, to buy
Speaker 1: a smarter and then make nutritious meals to their families.
Speaker 1: Very quickly I joined. Also this is Central Kitchen, I
Speaker 1: met Robert Eger. This is inter Kitchen was great. It
Speaker 1: was a super kitchen, but like no other, was not
Speaker 1: only used solving the problem uh feeding the hungry, but
Speaker 1: I was taking people out of jail, people out of
Speaker 1: the streets, training them to be cooks in the process,
Speaker 1: making sure that food waste will not happen, bringing food
Speaker 1: from farmers and maybe hotels that had a big party council,
Speaker 1: making sure that that food will be served somewhere else.
Speaker 1: All of the sudden, training those men becoming cooks, that
Speaker 1: restaurants like me could be higher. You see all of
Speaker 1: the sudden. I saw a plate of food, building community,
Speaker 1: giving opportunity to people, finding food waste, training and finding
Speaker 1: then the way to fit the homeless population in this year.
Speaker 1: At the same time that people were training on restaurants
Speaker 1: like me could hire very well prepared people there. I
Speaker 1: saw the power of food when I saw Katrina. Katrina.
Speaker 1: I was in the confront of my home on the Superdome,
Speaker 1: thousands of Americans inside an arena, and we couldn't feed
Speaker 1: them and bring them water. Do you know how far
Speaker 1: away is the main warehouse area that provides food to
Speaker 1: all the restaurants in New Orleans points seven miles? You
Speaker 1: could walk with ten twenty people even if you didn't
Speaker 1: had a car, because the water was up to your
Speaker 1: belly and bringing the food and start feeding them. We
Speaker 1: didn't do. You know what an arena is? Everybody has
Speaker 1: it wrong. Everybody in arena thinks is a place to
Speaker 1: watch NBA hockey or watch musicians. No, it's a gigantic
Speaker 1: restaurant that entertains with the sports and music. That moment,
Speaker 1: I said, is no way that in these emergencies you
Speaker 1: send nurses and daughters to tagether the wounded after an emergency,
Speaker 1: you said, firefighters and rescue teams to look under the
Speaker 1: rubble after an earthquake. Who do you think we should
Speaker 1: be sending to bring water and feed people after an
Speaker 1: American chefs the people that we feed the field, we
Speaker 1: are the most prepared people. Two also feed the many.
Speaker 1: This is why I wasn't a kitchen. As an idea
Speaker 1: began in En I mean Cayman Island with Eric Rippert
Speaker 1: and a Tony bor Dan, and within a few days,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later, I went to Haiti with
Speaker 1: one idea. You could arre you to help, but they
Speaker 1: went with the idea to learn how cooks like me,
Speaker 1: we can activate ourselves and our contacts to start making
Speaker 1: something out of nothing. This is how you started World
Speaker 1: Central Kitchen in two thousand and ten. What was the
Speaker 1: main mission? It was not so clear in the early
Speaker 1: days that we will be mainly in emergencies even was
Speaker 1: part of that. For me, it was more emergencies with
Speaker 1: helping also with development because we had many areas. One
Speaker 1: was education to the people of Haiti needed school like
Speaker 1: we did to make sure that John John girls lend
Speaker 1: a profession and they can make a living in the
Speaker 1: process of of working in restaurants, and so we did
Speaker 1: kind of a school. Also, we were saying that in
Speaker 1: Haiti everybody cooks with charcoal and the entire countries has
Speaker 1: almost no trees compared to the Dominican Republic, the country
Speaker 1: in the other side of of the same islands that
Speaker 1: is a forest. What can we do because being poor
Speaker 1: means that also you are on how cutting down the
Speaker 1: natural resources in the way of surviving, you are becoming
Speaker 1: putter every day. What can we do to make sure
Speaker 1: that the young girls don't have to go to pick
Speaker 1: up wood instead of going to school. You see things
Speaker 1: like this is what we began, But then we had
Speaker 1: that same year hurricane, and then was was all the
Speaker 1: events that kept happening. So it's lowly but surely wilsnto
Speaker 1: the kitchen yous began growing. But I would say that
Speaker 1: with the end soever this natural disaster, hurricane after hurricane,
Speaker 1: but especially I will say the big big year was
Speaker 1: over five years ago when Maria happened right a few
Speaker 1: weeks before Houston, also happened Irma or Harvey, if I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm right, And then it's when we never stopped
Speaker 1: and we kept going because then every year SAMs was one, two,
Speaker 1: three hurricanes, not only category one or two, but all
Speaker 1: the way to four or five. All of the sun
Speaker 1: and mayhem was happening everywhere. Kind of we've never stopped cooking. Well,
Speaker 1: the last time I really spent any time with you
Speaker 1: was in Puerto Rico and right after that major disaster,
Speaker 1: I guess, and you were taking us to the farms
Speaker 1: where he was teaching the farmers what to grow so
Speaker 1: that when disaster did strike, they would have food to
Speaker 1: put on their tables. And that was such an eye
Speaker 1: opener to me. I really enjoyed seeing those farms, those
Speaker 1: special crops that you were encouraging them to grow and
Speaker 1: it made a difference to them. Well, I always amazing
Speaker 1: that you came because obviously everybody think like when one
Speaker 1: region when estate, when Cilia has been hit by a hurricane,
Speaker 1: it's kind of you cross that on your list. And
Speaker 1: I always want to tell people when they tell me, Jose,
Speaker 1: what can I do? Show up because people need you
Speaker 1: to show up in the weeks a month once everything
Speaker 1: is safe, so that you Martha came to Doorado and busy.
Speaker 1: Different part supper Ricourse so important obviously because people follow
Speaker 1: you on your podcast, on your Instagram, on your Twitter
Speaker 1: and everywhere else, and somebody like you showing up there
Speaker 1: for vacation was saying this is the way to help too. Indirectly.
Speaker 1: You can go and have a great time, but in
Speaker 1: the process you are living tourish dollars in the way
Speaker 1: you're moving the economy forward. So this was great. It
Speaker 1: was the UH in Puerto Rico a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: right after the last Hurricane Fiona, the damage Puerto Rico again,
Speaker 1: your whole, your whole power grid went out, and we
Speaker 1: and we busy many of these same farms you're talking.
Speaker 1: We kind of hard partnership with more than close to
Speaker 1: two hundred twenty farms that what we did was giving
Speaker 1: them grants, but grants that were smart investments in precisely
Speaker 1: make them resilient in the event of future hurricanes. And
Speaker 1: we began buying a lot of the fruits and vegetables
Speaker 1: that we were serving to the people after this hurricane.
Speaker 1: We were buying from our same partners. The way, in
Speaker 1: the process of the emergency, you are already helping the
Speaker 1: local economy. Economy. Yes, so that's it's so smart and
Speaker 1: it makes such sense, and yet so little of this
Speaker 1: is being done without josyandres not true. It happens with
Speaker 1: a lot of people. We are not overli in the States,
Speaker 1: I will say, we are, without a doubt, the biggest
Speaker 1: feeding operation. This is the type of things I'm asking
Speaker 1: FEMA and Homeland Security and the r c S. Always
Speaker 1: you see every precedent or every governor or every major
Speaker 1: announcing that food will be available. Well, the food is
Speaker 1: available is always what we call the emory is the
Speaker 1: meal is ready to eat. The meal is ready to eat.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with them. They are food that is
Speaker 1: already pretty cooked that you opened the box, you can't
Speaker 1: even have a way to heat it, and you eat it. Listen, you,
Speaker 1: I feed them worse things in my life, probably every
Speaker 1: one of us. Maybe it's something worse, but those meals
Speaker 1: ready to eat. This is what happened. Somebody drops them
Speaker 1: one day, usually the great man and woman of the
Speaker 1: National Guard. They follow orders. They dropped them somewhere, maybe
Speaker 1: in a fire station. The fire station guys, poor guys,
Speaker 1: they're busy rescuing people. They have other issues. They're not
Speaker 1: in the business of this with in food. And let
Speaker 1: me tell you, very often when I go somewhere and
Speaker 1: I see a big load of emories, I love to
Speaker 1: go back to three for one month later, and usually
Speaker 1: those emories are in touched is still there. We spend
Speaker 1: the money, we spend the resources. They don't help the
Speaker 1: local economy. They are not the favorite thing for people
Speaker 1: to eat. And they spoil um. Well, technically that's the
Speaker 1: good thing of memories that they never spoil that horrible
Speaker 1: they so a hundred years later, maybe those emories somebody
Speaker 1: will be able to eat them. But that's why sometimes
Speaker 1: for elderly people they're not the right thing to eat.
Speaker 1: For a lot of people with health issues, is not
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. But let me tell you
Speaker 1: what better than you use helping the local economy by
Speaker 1: supporting the local restaurants and food trucks. That this is
Speaker 1: more than just putting money. People want to be active
Speaker 1: in an emergency helping their own community is always hands
Speaker 1: available to help. We show that we give an opportunity
Speaker 1: to people to take the mission of taking care of
Speaker 1: their fellow citizens on their own hands. And that's what
Speaker 1: we are. Such an easy organization to love because everybody
Speaker 1: feels can always be part of helping. How was that
Speaker 1: occasion is able to do what we do because mainly
Speaker 1: American people supporters. Ninety nine point nine percent of all
Speaker 1: our funds are used from individuals, uh seven percent, foundations,
Speaker 1: some businesses. We don't hundred millions of me. I think
Speaker 1: we are maybe three four hundred maybe four hundred million mills.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because quite frankly, I don't keep count.
Speaker 1: But in the pandemic was huge because we were not
Speaker 1: only in America. We were in Spain, we were in India,
Speaker 1: we were in other in other few countries. But in
Speaker 1: America we had a huge activation. I think at one
Speaker 1: moment we were over for his seven states. We were
Speaker 1: very big in all the hospitals in New York, we
Speaker 1: were big in Oakland, we were big in l A.
Speaker 1: We were in so many places. Why because hospitals were
Speaker 1: shutting the kitchens. Nobody was coming to work did your
Speaker 1: family get to see you and those Yeah, he spent
Speaker 1: good time with my family, but also it troubled a lot.
Speaker 1: But but remember we began feeding people in Yokohama in
Speaker 1: late January early February with the help of Noble who
Speaker 1: he put a lot of his contacts there in Yokohama, Japan,
Speaker 1: because the first ship with copy was coming, second one
Speaker 1: was coming to Oakland. There we were two and when
Speaker 1: we left Oakland after feeding that cruise ship with copy cases,
Speaker 1: we knew that this was going to be the pandemic
Speaker 1: everybody was talking about. We began use growing three thousand,
Speaker 1: five hundred restaurants that became part of our network, some arenas,
Speaker 1: some stadiums that also became part of our network before
Speaker 1: we knew we were in India, and with catering, it
Speaker 1: was an incredible mobile station. It was incredible. People are
Speaker 1: so grateful for your help, really and truly. But you
Speaker 1: did win this amazing award from Jeff Bezos for his
Speaker 1: it's called the Courage and Civilization Award. So you are
Speaker 1: you are going to use that for investing in the future.
Speaker 1: We obviously I've already use some of those fonds. You
Speaker 1: could argue aide and use them in one hour when
Speaker 1: there is so much younger, yes, and so many issues. Obviously, UM,
Speaker 1: my good friend. Yet Bess, I'm already telling him, well,
Speaker 1: the hundred is great. Can we talk about the next
Speaker 1: hundred or on the next billion. What I can tell
Speaker 1: you is that Jeff has a very good heart. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's very active in in a lot of situations. Right
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the pandemic, he gave another hundred
Speaker 1: million to UH to the Feeding America, which is the
Speaker 1: networks of food banks. But in what I've used somehow
Speaker 1: that money, the initial money I've been using for investments
Speaker 1: in things like a food institute, idea one day in
Speaker 1: Washington the sea where we need to be having a
Speaker 1: place that will create food policy for American food and
Speaker 1: national food around around the world. You know, I've been
Speaker 1: I've been reading a lot about that and talking about that.
Speaker 1: To finally, I mean, America, a huge country, has no
Speaker 1: national food agency. We we have right now I think
Speaker 1: close to seventeen agencies with more than a hundred offices
Speaker 1: that they handled different experts of the government related to food.
Speaker 1: And they don't and they don't speak between them. So myself,
Speaker 1: as you know was the White House Food Conference, first
Speaker 1: one in fifty three years and I was able to
Speaker 1: to to speak. They give me the opportunity to be
Speaker 1: but there is going to be a meeting. I hear
Speaker 1: the meeting already happened. The White House Food Conference already happened.
Speaker 1: It wasn't successful. I would say that we need to
Speaker 1: wait and see. The last one happened in nine with
Speaker 1: President Nixon. Many things like we know today Week which
Speaker 1: helped s naps, different programs that have mothers, elderly families
Speaker 1: that they don't make it at the end of the month.
Speaker 1: This is a suppleman for them to be able to
Speaker 1: feed themselves. Many of these things happen in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 1: So those were the good news. The bad news is
Speaker 1: that more than fifty three years we never had another
Speaker 1: White House Food Conference. And many of the old ideas
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't move forward, they didn't catch on fire,
Speaker 1: and they didn't well, they work, but they didn't adapt.
Speaker 1: You cannot put the same idea that you create fifty
Speaker 1: years ago today this way House Food Conference. This is
Speaker 1: what we hope that new ideas are going to happen,
Speaker 1: that maybe breakfast and lunch will become universal in America.
Speaker 1: Maybe that we will stop throwing money of the problem
Speaker 1: and we will start investing in dissolutions. Children should be
Speaker 1: fed better in America. The government, the American government has
Speaker 1: enough money to achieve that. And in the process, you
Speaker 1: can keep farmers doing well, buying from rural America and
Speaker 1: reaching rural America, making sure that the rural America becomes richer,
Speaker 1: no poorer. So you've seen so much of the world,
Speaker 1: can you tell us which parts are the most needy? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm for doing it. I will tell you I've been
Speaker 1: in a lot of parts of the world like you,
Speaker 1: but I don't think I've been in the in the
Speaker 1: ones that maybe needs people like me and you to
Speaker 1: show up. All right, now, we are listening what's happening,
Speaker 1: and if you hope, again, we're seeing what's happening in
Speaker 1: German again. We're seeing what's happening in Palestine again. We're
Speaker 1: seeing what's happened sometimes in our own cities in America, Martha,
Speaker 1: sometimes unfortunately we don't need to go so far away.
Speaker 1: But there is this war happening in Ukraine. Ukraine is
Speaker 1: a net exporter of grains. Uh. This is putting a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure in countries that they depend on those
Speaker 1: grains to feed their population, and all of the sudden,
Speaker 1: this is the issue in the conundrum. We maybe, as
Speaker 1: much as I like to be a positive person, we
Speaker 1: may be in four in one of the biggest humanitarian
Speaker 1: crisis where we're gonna be having hundreds of thousands, millions
Speaker 1: of women, children living their countries, living their cities because
Speaker 1: it's nothing to it. And when people don't have anything
Speaker 1: to it is when they start thinking about migrating. Of course,
Speaker 1: what would you not do if you had to feed
Speaker 1: your child? So we canna do two things. We canna
Speaker 1: be talking about building walls in America in Europe, but
Speaker 1: let me tell you, or we canna be talking about
Speaker 1: building longer tables, making sure that those countries have stronger democracies,
Speaker 1: that they economically they do better, that they are able
Speaker 1: to feed themselves. I do believe the rich wall needs
Speaker 1: to be invested in the betterment of the lives of
Speaker 1: the potter part of the wall, because if you build
Speaker 1: the wall, let me tell you that wall is useless
Speaker 1: because the most powerful army there is will be on
Speaker 1: the army of mothers with their children in their arms.
Speaker 1: Your podcast that you have started is called Longer Tables,
Speaker 1: and I like that analogy because it really does make
Speaker 1: us think about coping with this problem and solving the
Speaker 1: problem if we can. And your passion is just infectious
Speaker 1: because now I'm I just I'm feeling so positive about
Speaker 1: the help that we can really give to all these
Speaker 1: people and places and need. Well, we need to do
Speaker 1: to change the way our politicians are trying to do
Speaker 1: every everyday business. Seems that we keep repeating the same
Speaker 1: old recipes that they have no problem with all recipes.
Speaker 1: I love history, I love all recipes. But when the
Speaker 1: old recipe doesn't work, Martha, what do you do? You
Speaker 1: change their recipe? You improve the recipe. If the old
Speaker 1: recipes are not helping end many of the problems we face,
Speaker 1: let's throw them away and let's make better ones or
Speaker 1: right new recipes. But right now, Joanne has to rembent themselves.
Speaker 1: Unit have has to rembent themselves. World Food Program has
Speaker 1: to rembent themselves. Organizations like Red Cross and film that
Speaker 1: they need to rembent themselves. Why because the world and
Speaker 1: humanity cannot afford for those organizations to don't do and
Speaker 1: show up with the best that they can give to
Speaker 1: the people. If those organizations fell, humanity felts, they need
Speaker 1: all of them, all of us rewrite new recipes because
Speaker 1: sometimes they all recipes are not working. When do you
Speaker 1: find time to cook? Well, I just it was very, very,
Speaker 1: very entire. I don't know why, but I arrived home
Speaker 1: and um my wife and I wanted to see a
Speaker 1: movie a series, and I had some seurge in about
Speaker 1: from Maine. I kind of cleaned them in the morning,
Speaker 1: and I arrived and I made for her a quick pastor.
Speaker 1: It's urgin target. So it's always common to cook. Where
Speaker 1: are you getting good the target these days? The base one? Obviously,
Speaker 1: Spain will claim this from Spain we call it. They
Speaker 1: call it in Italy. You can find it in powder form.
Speaker 1: You can find it like it was a sausage. But
Speaker 1: I used to get really good Italian rotariga from the
Speaker 1: island of Sarginia. Could be But you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: never in the business of recognizing Italians have anything better
Speaker 1: than Spain. Sorry, it's on my the mullet card row
Speaker 1: from the grandmllet. Yeah, but I have one that is
Speaker 1: no Italy of Spain where the one I've been using
Speaker 1: for more than twenty years, life changing from where tricklins
Speaker 1: from Greece comes in a very sexy code of be wax.
Speaker 1: When you cut it and you see it through the
Speaker 1: light bulb colors through the sun amber color, it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful you know orange in the fall sun said seven
Speaker 1: p m. Yes, that beautiful orange e color. That is
Speaker 1: almost telling you eat me. You take the wax out,
Speaker 1: you bring that beautiful lines of the gray mallet cure
Speaker 1: sweet is sending a smell through your nose of saying,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this came right from the A G and
Speaker 1: C right in the Mediterranean, by the course of Greece.
Speaker 1: And it's like eat me, and you put it on
Speaker 1: the tongue, and even the tongue doesn't want to eat it.
Speaker 1: The teeth doesn't want to bite into it. They don't
Speaker 1: want to damage that precious, amazing bite of heaven. When
Speaker 1: your teeth and your tongue don't want to eat something,
Speaker 1: you kind of minding how good it is. Almost are
Speaker 1: going to look for that? Are you selling that at
Speaker 1: your store? I have it in my restaurants Titania, which
Speaker 1: the first one I opened to any years ago in
Speaker 1: Washington dizzy and now, yes, people, this is a commercial.
Speaker 1: I opened one at the rich Carton. No, man, is
Speaker 1: that the I have it there you do, I'm going
Speaker 1: there tonight. I've got that tricklinos D the best color Targa,
Speaker 1: the best raw dry raw in the kind putting, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going I have no business with them. I should
Speaker 1: I have, so I don't mind to use that. You
Speaker 1: can find it online. Is life changing. It is life changing.
Speaker 1: I think it was a seal. You and I we
Speaker 1: were seals in another live So your wife was very
Speaker 1: happy with her general last night? Yep. And what movie
Speaker 1: did you watch? I watched the first episode of The Bird? Oh?
Speaker 1: It was it good? It was it was great. The
Speaker 1: about the restaurant in Chicago and the bear, the bird.
Speaker 1: What happened? You don't understand my English? No many years.
Speaker 1: What did you think about the bird? The bird? Come on?
Speaker 1: Hell so in the Spanish everything, but when you sound
Speaker 1: you what did you think the first episode? I love it.
Speaker 1: My wife she didn't love it, but I convinced her
Speaker 1: to watch the second one and then she wore moum.
Speaker 1: My daughter. My daughter loved it and I I got
Speaker 1: so turned off at the at the filthiness of that kitchen.
Speaker 1: But the guy was cleaning all the time. He wasn't
Speaker 1: making I would have put everybody out on the street
Speaker 1: and taken a power washer and clean that place in
Speaker 1: two hours. Believe me, I would have. I was there.
Speaker 1: I just went I got so mad at that show.
Speaker 1: But it was fun, it was the acting was great.
Speaker 1: These people, these men, the SUSA, the woman, everybody. He's
Speaker 1: trying to show the best of themselves against a lot.
Speaker 1: I just love your passion, I love your excitement. I
Speaker 1: think that you are one of the most incredible human
Speaker 1: beings alive today. Jose Andres. You are doing so much good,
Speaker 1: um and you are teaching so many people to be
Speaker 1: more humanitarian, to be more caring, to be more aware
Speaker 1: of the major major problems that we're all facing. And
Speaker 1: I hope all of you listening will look up World
Speaker 1: Central Kitchen, UM and UH and help Jose and his
Speaker 1: crusade to feed the world. Are we opening up what
Speaker 1: little wine know? What