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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. I'm one of your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Beccy Kofern and I'm Michelle Young, and we are back

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Speaker 1: this week to catch up with everything that happened in Budapest,

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Speaker 1: but also we finally have the Bachelor himself on, so

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Speaker 1: very soon we will finally get the chance to talk

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Speaker 1: with Zach. Yes, we're excited to speak with him. There's

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Speaker 1: so much that has happened just this season in general

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Speaker 1: to get his thoughts on his journey and get to

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Speaker 1: chat with him. But first before we bring him on,

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Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts about this episode, Becca, and

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Speaker 1: I need to know your thoughts on something very specific.

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Speaker 1: So okay, So in this date, this date was really

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Speaker 1: intense and it was really emotional, and I will say

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Speaker 1: that it actually kind of felt very unique aside from

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Speaker 1: other like just typical Bachelor dates or episodes. The mind

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Speaker 1: reading date. Okay, so they bring this mentalist in and one,

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Speaker 1: how are your thoughts just in general about like a

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Speaker 1: psychic or a mentalist, Like are you into that stuff?

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Speaker 1: Are you open to it? Are you like yes anything

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Speaker 1: that they say, I that's absolutely it? Are you like

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Speaker 1: take it with a gr an assault? I know I'm

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Speaker 1: so into it, Like I have personally spoken with mediums

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Speaker 1: in the past, so I feel like this would have

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Speaker 1: been actually a really fun date to be on. The

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Speaker 1: only part that I probably would not have liked per

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Speaker 1: se is being having to be in a group setting,

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Speaker 1: Like this is a date that I would have maybe

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Speaker 1: wanted for just myself and the lead, not with all

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Speaker 1: these other women around. And it seems like it got

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Speaker 1: very emotional for the women just based upon the questions

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Speaker 1: he was asking. And I'm going to be completely honest

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Speaker 1: because like you know, I've chatted with mediums in the past,

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Speaker 1: and some I'm like, okay, like your respond on with

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Speaker 1: some of this stuff that you know that no one

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Speaker 1: else would have known. And then some I'm like, mmm,

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Speaker 1: like are you real here it's just like spewing up? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like is it just more vague like stuffing you spew

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Speaker 1: up to everyone? And I kind of put into this

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Speaker 1: date with that mindset, like, of course this is set

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Speaker 1: up from the show and this like he's going to

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Speaker 1: know inside information from these women before going on, but

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Speaker 1: like based upon all of their reactions, and I am

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Speaker 1: intrigued to pure Zach's point of view. Two because obviously

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Speaker 1: he was there, but I feel like this guy was

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Speaker 1: actually legit. I okay, so that's so interesting that you

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Speaker 1: bring that up. Is because I I've seen a psychic before,

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Speaker 1: and you kind of can like take different things in.

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Speaker 1: But like my similar to you, My reading was very

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Speaker 1: like specific and so it was like, Okay, this can

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Speaker 1: actually this could actually be legit. But as I was

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Speaker 1: watching this episod, I wasn't necessarily sitting there and questioning

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Speaker 1: if he was legit or not. What I almost had

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Speaker 1: an issue with though, is the way that he set

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Speaker 1: the tone of the date, because it came off really aggressive,

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Speaker 1: and it came for me anyways, and it came off

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Speaker 1: because like several times this penseless was like if you're lying,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna know. If you're lying, I'm gonna know, And

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Speaker 1: it came off in a very like tauntings an aggressive word,

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Speaker 1: but like a pushy way when like these women like

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Speaker 1: like like they were in like an FBI investigation. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you brought that up. And I guess

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Speaker 1: I was looking at it. I wasn't even looking at

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Speaker 1: it from that mindset, but that makes total sense. And

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Speaker 1: I think if I would like if I was on

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Speaker 1: this group date, I would have failed miserably. First of all,

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Speaker 1: because like I always put myself in this mindset of like, okay,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm a very honest person, but like when somebody's

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Speaker 1: I would freaking panic and like my heart would just race.

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Speaker 1: I'd probably fail it no matter what if I was

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Speaker 1: honest or not. Like, so, why is that my biggest

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Speaker 1: true crime podcasts where they're like, never do a polygraph,

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Speaker 1: So that's where my said is. But also, like, like

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I could see why they would struggle. I'm

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Speaker 1: and pick his brain just about what his thoughts were

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Speaker 1: on that date as well as everything that just happened

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Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, both of his one on one sending

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Speaker 1: some women home before the big hometown week. I will say, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm intrigued to have Zach on this week because

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Speaker 1: like for me, and I don't know if, like Michelle,

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Speaker 1: you've maybe felt this or not, but like I feel

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Speaker 1: like I quite like the cast. I love the support

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Speaker 1: I still don't quite know, Like I feel like with

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Speaker 1: I don't really know who Zach is, Like I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen much of you and your personality in your side

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Speaker 1: of things, and so that's why it'll be nice to

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, like we've never really had a

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Speaker 1: be interesting. I mean, obviously he's probably so exhausted with

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Speaker 1: all of that, we should just bring him on because

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Speaker 1: we do have so many questions for him. Let's do it. Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Welcome Zach. How are you doing? I saw the hello Hello.

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Speaker 1: There's a big thing in my world. Hello, dougle Hello. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I've been getting roasted for it all season? Is that

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Speaker 1: how you wait? Is that how you meet all the

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Speaker 1: girls every week? Is hello Hello? It started on night one,

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Speaker 1: just being overwhelmed walking into the room with everyone and

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Speaker 1: it was all right, hello, hello, ladies. And then they

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Speaker 1: started tallying how many times I would say that same

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Speaker 1: Becka and I have actually spoken about this before, just

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Speaker 1: there's like everybody has coin phrases and so yours. I

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Speaker 1: remember Matt James His was thanks for sharing Beca. What

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Speaker 1: was yours? I don't even know. I would always say.

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Speaker 1: I would always say, like if I'm being honest, and

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Speaker 1: then like lead into something, Yeah, I get stuck in it.

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Speaker 1: going to ask you, Zach, okay you do this, and

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Speaker 1: So I want to know if they said this to

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Speaker 1: you too, but um. And it's like usually in like

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, he I used to say that

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Speaker 1: You know there were there were probably several phrases they

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Speaker 1: I've become more conscious of how often I use the

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Speaker 1: Have you, how has that been for you? Have you

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Speaker 1: enjoyed watching everything back. Has it been really difficult for you? Uh,

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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty difficult. Um. You know, you have this

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's everything as little as like okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, always like the articles and this and that,

430
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: and you know, the word blindside comes up a lot,

431
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: and especially the thing Bachelor created it, and it's like

432
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: there's a certain point where you know, I've always wanted

433
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: to be truthful and honest with how I felt with everyone,

434
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: and I have, and you know, the feeling of blindsight's

435
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: going to happen no matter what in a sense, because

436
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: it's not like that's why there's a rose ceremony and

437
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: like a decision needs to be made a lot of time.

438
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: I think one thing I've done pretty well was always

439
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: letting them know how I truly feel about them. Now,

440
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: it's it's tough when you have to make a decision

441
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: at a rose ceremony and you know you have to

442
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: follow what is right to you. But I think like

443
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: everything I've done, I've you know, been fully honest and

444
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: transparent with all the women throughout our relationship. So that's

445
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: one ye that it's because it's easy to kind of

446
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: like you can skate by and maybe just say like

447
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: a few things here and there and you know, lead

448
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: them on. And that's the last thing I wanted, Like

449
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: I only wanted to be true with what I actually

450
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: felt with each one. Okay, we're going to get into Obviously,

451
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: like the past couple of weeks, we you have been

452
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: traveling to some crazy cool places, like fresh out the Gate,

453
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: you were traveling to like cool cities. Um, I just

454
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: want to ask you this because it's already crazy that

455
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: next week is Hometowns and like, where the hell has

456
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: this season gone already? Like, can you believe right now?

457
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you filmed it, you were in that

458
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: limbo phase before it aired, and now you're playing it

459
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: all back. Can you believe like we're already to this

460
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: point where you are you are going to meet for

461
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: women's families already? Oh, I mean it's mine. I thought

462
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: it was going to be the slowest you know, a

463
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: couple of months there is, you know, watching everything week

464
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: week and it's actually just absolutely flew by. Um. I

465
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: am excited for the end of it, if you know,

466
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: for selfish reasons to like kind of start my life

467
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: with someone or maybe oh is this a little here

468
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: you're happy and in love tune in. No, Like, I'm

469
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: excited it for that that phase of life and that's

470
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: kind of the most important thing for me. But um

471
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: so selfishly, I'm like, I'm excited that it's kind of

472
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: being faster than anticipated, but um, you know it's still

473
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: the time. You know, when there's hometowns right around the corner,

474
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: it gets really real, Like that's when you know families

475
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: are involved, and it's not um, you know what you've

476
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: been going through, traveling around the world doing some cool

477
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: fun dates. It's it's like a level of seriousness that

478
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: you haven't really gotten to yet, and there's a lot

479
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: of stake and the most difficult decisions of all time come.

480
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: And I know it's a little nerve wracking, Like I'm

481
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 1: getting the butterflies thinking about like going back to that

482
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: time and looking at it because it was it was

483
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: it was a lot to take in. Like as I'm

484
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: sure you both know the nerves and when you meet

485
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: the families and well, and we'll get into i mean,

486
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: we'll get into closer to hometowns. But I just want

487
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: to ask you this too, because now we've all seen

488
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: the episode, we know your final four. Was there one

489
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: maybe one woman or family in particular that you were

490
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: like really nervous, Whether it was because you were like

491
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: so into that person that you were like this could

492
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: be my future in laws or somebody that you were like, oh,

493
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: they've warned me that their parents are going to be

494
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: kind of harsh. Like, who was one of the girls

495
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: families that you were most nervous to see? That's a

496
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: great question. It was Ariel's family. So she had dad

497
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: that thought it was a game of thrones. He was

498
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: like naked, and I was and I was like, you know,

499
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, a little nervous but excited to meet him.

500
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: But I was also warned, U not warned, but prepared

501
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: for her brother. And you know, I'm an older brother

502
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: myself with two younger sisters, um you know that have

503
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: had boyfriends, and I've played the macho older brother um role,

504
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: you know, the younger time. But she prepared me for that,

505
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: and so I was really nervous going into meeting her brother, who,

506
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: without any spoilers, I don't know if he's a big

507
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: fan of this whole show thing. And that's so understandable too,

508
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: is because it is a crazy world and not everybody

509
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: understands it. That's hard. It's so tricky. It's like ready,

510
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: set go, and then we wonder why families are like

511
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: what the heck is going on? It's like because we look,

512
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: we look legitimately crazy. Well, and I feel like not

513
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: to get into the whole like stereotypical role of like

514
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: men and women, but traditionally, I will say it's probably

515
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: a bit tougher for you as the mail lead ZAC,

516
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: because you know when you want it. I think most

517
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: people when they are planning on getting engaged, they want

518
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: the parents blessing. And so I'm sure that was an

519
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: added layer that you went into all these homeome Sorry,

520
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: my dogs just came back so here beeping in their colors.

521
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: That's them. But I'm sure and you can maybe speak more, Connie,

522
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: here's mine. Yeah, I could say sorry, but I'm sure

523
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: you had that extra layer to think about of like

524
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: one of these four women could be my life partner

525
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: and I could be getting engaged, and now I have

526
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: to ask for their potential blessing when they know I'm

527
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: still dating three other women on top of their daughter.

528
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: It's got to be like a bit heavy going in

529
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: every night. It was, I mean, every hometown, you're prepared

530
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: to have probably the toughest discussion you can ever have,

531
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: because you know you're you're speaking with fathers, just speaking

532
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: with mothers, you know siblings, and you do need like

533
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: for me, I personally believe like you do need to

534
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: ask for that blessing because that's like I want them to,

535
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, feel as comfortable as they can with me.

536
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: But regardless, it's still their family, it's their daughter, ye Um.

537
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: I want them to feel comfortable or feel safe with me. Um.

538
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: So it was you know, very difficult uh for you know,

539
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the family to wrap their head around.

540
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: And I completely understand, and I was prepared for no anything,

541
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: um that could happen. Um. We do want to get

542
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: into this week's episode. We we got to get into

543
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: a Stonia quick because I did questions of a Stone

544
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: about a Stonia too. Okay, got it, God, you start

545
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: with that big um. Okay, and we got it. Man.

546
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: I have so many questions for you, and I just

547
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: like don't have the time. Um, I would get into London,

548
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: but like that's a couple of weeks ago. So yeah,

549
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: so Stonia. The main thing I want to ask you

550
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: about that week is the we probably know what I'm

551
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: going to bring up, the conversation with Jess during the

552
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: group like the evening part of that group date when

553
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: she ended up going home. You did not think she

554
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: was going home that night? Correct? Ver? Okay? So that

555
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: was kind of a shock too, I would say, both

556
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: of you and the part that I want to ask

557
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: you about, because just watching that entire conversation, you know,

558
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: like I can empathize with Jess. Of of course she

559
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: wants the one on one time, like she wants to

560
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: build that quality time, especially as hometowns are nearing. But

561
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: there was one part in that conversation, well, I guess

562
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: two parts, like more towards the beginning, you said something like,

563
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't necessarily like and I'm paraphrasing, so

564
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: these are not your words, but like you weren't necessarily

565
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: worried or fixating on the one on one with her

566
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: because you felt such a strong connection with her, And

567
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: then closer to the end of that conversation, as she's

568
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: nearing to go home and leave, you were like, you

569
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: kind of backtracked and you said something like, well, maybe

570
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: that connection wasn't as strong. Can you just talk us

571
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: through the thought process there, because I was a bit confused,

572
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: and I'm sure Jess was a bit confused to of

573
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that that conversation was much longer than

574
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: what was aired, so there's probably bits that we were missing.

575
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: So can you just like talk us through that entire

576
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: evening in your thought process when speaking with her. Yeah, absolutely,

577
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: And even looking back on it, before I'd even watched

578
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: the episode, I had left that that entire conversation that

579
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: time confused as well, because what it happened is it

580
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: it was all very quick. The conversation was was long,

581
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: and obviously it had to be condensed. But you know, Jess,

582
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, coming to me and you know, expressing these

583
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: concerns about the one on one, and you know, I

584
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: took it um out of the what's the right word

585
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: out of um uh sorry blanket on the word context,

586
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: out of context basically of you know, I'm saying, you know, Jess,

587
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: show all of this like emotion and anger with me

588
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: about this when like all the time, for the weeks

589
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: leading up to this, like we had it very strong,

590
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: and I wasn't, you know, necessarily knowing that she was,

591
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, worried about having a one on one and

592
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: then I see her on this you know, great cocktail

593
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: party and and she's very upset with me, and I

594
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: was caught off guard. I was not expecting that because

595
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, through the weeks you know, with Jess, I

596
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: was confident with her, and the issue was and I

597
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: don't know if it was fully brought in there, but

598
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, the nerves played a huge factor with her,

599
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: and I wanted her to feel very comfortable with me,

600
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: and I felt very comfortable with her from a very

601
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: early point, Like I I had a moment with her.

602
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: I think it was week two where I shared something

603
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: with her that I've never shared with anyone, and she

604
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: had this like ability to make me feel comfortable like that,

605
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: and that was something awesome and I was like, Wow,

606
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: there's something really strong about Jess that I'm digging. And

607
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: as those weeks transpired, whenever we would talk, she wasn't like,

608
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, getting too comfortable with me, and the nerves were,

609
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, to a point that we're um becoming the

610
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: topic of our conversation of like are you comfortable with me? Jess,

611
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: Like is this gonna be okay? And that instilled a

612
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: little bit of fear of me, of like once you

613
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: do a one on one date, like you spend all

614
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: day with someone and you know it's it's you know,

615
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: it's an important date. And I completely see where she

616
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: really really wants when everyone wants one, And I guess

617
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: we're my of me saying like I feel so confident,

618
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: was like I really didn't have like any doubts other

619
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: than the nerves and of you know, going on a

620
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: one on one date. But like it just all of

621
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: a sudden hits this boiling point of you know, all

622
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: this you know, emotion and anger, and I'm caught off

623
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: guard because I never knew she was feeling this strongly

624
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: about not having the one on one and she was

625
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: thinking it was me not wanting to take her or

626
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: me not liking her, and that was, you know, farthest

627
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: thing from the truth. And it was just like a

628
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: shocking moment where we didn't say anything. We both stood

629
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: up and and walked out. And I still look back

630
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: at it and it is a confusing, tough thing that

631
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: I know I could have handled better, and I knew

632
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: she was frustrated, and you know, we've we've talked since

633
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: about it, but I don't know, it's it was just

634
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: one of those moments of like, even watching it back,

635
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't agree with the way I handled it, but

636
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: there wasn't ever any bad intention behind it. It was

637
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: like shocked from me but completely understanding where she's coming from,

638
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: Like she wanted to just spend that one on one time.

639
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: I took it as like, are you like, it's not

640
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: just about one on ones, it's about everything. Yet totally

641
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: makes sense that that's what she needed and I couldn't

642
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: give that to her. Are you the type of person

643
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: because I was too on the show where like there

644
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: were certain conversations where if I was caught off guard

645
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: or shocked or like not fully prepared for like what

646
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: I was going into, it takes me quite a while

647
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: to process things really, to like sometimes I need to

648
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: step away and think about, like how do I want

649
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: to react, what do I actually want to say? Like

650
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: what points do I want to get across? And sometimes

651
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: when you're filming this show, you quite frankly just don't

652
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: have the time to be able to do that. Are

653
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: you kind of that person too, where you're like, sometimes

654
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: I just need time to process all of this and

655
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: I'll come back. And did you feel like in that

656
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: conversation you just weren't allowed given you the structure of

657
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: the show in that circumstance itself, I think it was

658
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: because it was such a surprise for us both that

659
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: we were having this conversation that it was kind of

660
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: like the heat of the moment type thing. And I

661
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: am someone that I loved a process because I want to,

662
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, think everything through. I want to you know,

663
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: act the best way I can with the best intention

664
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: and figure it out. And when they're when the last

665
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: thing you could ever imagine happens of her feeling so

666
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: upset and she goes home like that whole situation just

667
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: kind of felt like a weird dream like state. Yeah. Um, yeah,

668
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: it could have gone you know, fifty other different ways. Um.

669
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we like took a step back and

670
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: like we're both trying to understand each other's you know,

671
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: perspective and and I failed that. Um, but you know,

672
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: it just just a weird tough night. Yeah. It's it's

673
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: such a hard environment too, because when those things happen,

674
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: it's not like you can instantly reach out, and especially

675
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: in the situation if you have these things of like, okay,

676
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: so this did happen. But it's also I'm still the bachelor.

677
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm still looking for my person, and you have to

678
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: move forward and really like focus on that. It's hard.

679
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: It's like you're not gonna whereas like it was a

680
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: friend or any any something that happens, you'd call them

681
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: a few like hours later, a day later and be like, hey,

682
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: let's work through this. Yeah, but in this situation, it's

683
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: like you have to wait till the tell all and

684
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: you have to you have to wait for a long time.

685
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: And it's like you also have to focus on your

686
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: energy too with like Okay, this happened, but I can't

687
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: spe I can't. I mean I'm not can't speak with

688
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: her right now, like physically can't. And I have to

689
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: continue right right, Yeah, Yeah, you have to as the

690
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: best as you can try to just regain composure and um,

691
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: you know, when you do have some some downtime, like

692
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: just try to process what happened. And that was something

693
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: that I you know, for weeks tried to like mentally

694
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: wrap my head around, um, like what had happened. And

695
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, now watching it back like and talking with her,

696
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: it's it's been something that I think, you know, it

697
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: was was great for us both to talk about out

698
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: and I understand where I missed the line, and um,

699
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: I wanted her to know that like that's not what

700
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: I wanted for us and not how I wanted her

701
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: to feel. Like that was the modest thing from it,

702
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: but my actions showed that you could absolutely see it

703
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: as that. So I apologized for that, and I think

704
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: we're we're on good terms. Yeah, I'm sure we'll see

705
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: it all play out next week on the tell all

706
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: those main moments like where you we all get the

707
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: closure that we need so to speak. Um, okay, let's

708
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: get into this week. Then in Budapest because you had

709
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: two one on one dates, and then the group date,

710
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: which we really want to get into this group date

711
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: because Michelle and I had had our thoughts about it,

712
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: so many questions. Michelle do you want to get into

713
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: because I know, like can I get into est? Hang

714
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: it away? Okay, okay. My first question for you is,

715
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: outside of this experience, have you ever gone to a psychic?

716
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: Have you ever you know, spoke to mediums and worked

717
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: with any of these different things? I feel believers act

718
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: Why are you like and you don't have to be

719
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: you don't have to be like full in or full

720
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: out just you know what I mean. There's people who

721
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: are open to it and there's people who are not,

722
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: and both sides is completely valid. Yeah. To be honest,

723
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: I have never felt with anything like this, like a medium,

724
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: a psychic, like the magic ball stuff, Like I've never

725
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: never done that. I think my dad when he was

726
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: a kid was like like he was raised kind of

727
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: like that, but he's like he doesn't do that anymore,

728
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: so I'm familiar with it. I've never once had like

729
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: a I think I had one tarot card reading and

730
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: that was on last season. But other than that, like,

731
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: it's not my scene. I'm more of like I like magic,

732
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Like I was sold on him magician and then a mentalist.

733
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: So as you're going into this date, how how was

734
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: it when you were sitting down and this mentalist he

735
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: really he seemed very legit and kind of showed that

736
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: he was valid or what is it he was? He

737
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: was spot on? Um, was it hard for you to

738
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: just you know, these women are being so so vulnerable,

739
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: But after they're vulnerable, it's hard because they don't get

740
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: to you don't get to have a conversation and you

741
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: don't necessarily get a sit and console or like have

742
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: them elaborate, elaborate on anything that they're saying, and you're

743
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: seeing that they're hurting or you're seeing that they're struggling.

744
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: And I did see you kind of reach over in

745
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: comfort multiple to women when they started to get choked

746
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: up or when they started to get emotional. Was that

747
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: really hard that what that was in a group setting?

748
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: But also just the whole fact of like this person

749
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: is bringing these things out of them and it's hitting

750
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: home or it's you know, and you're trying to help

751
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: them with their emotions, but you're also trying to process Wait,

752
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: how am I perceiving this? How do I feel about this?

753
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: Can you kind of explain how you handle that date? Yeah?

754
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was It was a very strange date because,

755
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: as I said, you know, it started with you know,

756
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: magic and kind of lighting up you know, the mood

757
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: and everyone was feeling good. And then at the end

758
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: and what was really shown is when we are sitting

759
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: down on the stage and talking about like um, you know,

760
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: and when Labib is like pulling out like stuff about them,

761
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, stuff that you know has you know, hurt

762
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: them or trauma or something they're trying to work on,

763
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing them be emotional like like it was

764
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: very painful to see because I you can't do it

765
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: really in a group setting of like really trying to

766
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: console and you know, get and kind of dig deeper

767
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: or or not dig deeper if it's not something you

768
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: want to talk about more, but just having a better idea.

769
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: And I know, I do know that after that date,

770
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: it really did mess with all the women like that

771
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: shot them because they weren't expecting to feel that on

772
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: a group date you know that have typically been really

773
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: fun and um, you know different this this one just

774
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: really I don't want to say like it shook them,

775
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: but it did because they weren't expecting that date. I

776
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: would be, I wasn't expecting it to get to that

777
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: like no idea, and you know I wanted to that night,

778
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: um at the after party, you know, ask them how

779
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: they were feeling about it. But also see like you know,

780
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: was the you know, was the line drawn somewhere like

781
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: like did like did it go too far? Like tell

782
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: me how you're feeling about that, because that was like

783
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: you've been trying because I just observed it was one

784
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: of those things of like this mentalist stuff. It's not

785
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: in my realm. I don't know if it's truly real

786
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: or not. And this and that and and now I'm

787
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, hearing some really sensitive information that obviously is

788
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: having an effect on all the women and I'm trying

789
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: to to I guess, sort like sort through it mentally

790
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: of like okay, is this you know, like is this real?

791
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: Like what this guy Labib is sharing? And obviously the

792
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: women are really hurt, so like I want to get to,

793
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, the bottom of it and see if they're

794
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: truly okay. And I don't know. It was It was

795
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: not what I thought the magician date was gonna do,

796
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: right right. I wish you would have seen more of

797
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: the magic just because it was like, is this a

798
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: red late? Do I need to be focusing on the

799
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: red flags? Or don't need to be focusing on the consoling?

800
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: Or wait, what's going on here? It was just a

801
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: whole mind f Honestly, it was a very mentalist date.

802
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: It was a very yeah, but they're normally not that heavy.

803
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I wanted to see the magic checks.

804
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: So um, Okay, I have a question that has to

805
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: do with this date. But I'm asking I'm going to

806
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: ask both of you this. Okay, we're gonna have a

807
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: real just brutally on this moment when you were both

808
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: contestants on the Bautcher and batchelorrette. Because I'm saying this

809
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: because there was a point where Kat was in the

810
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: hot seat with this mentalist and he asked her, like,

811
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: have you thought of leaving at any point in this journey?

812
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: And she said, well, yeah, did either of you throughout

813
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: your I hate same journeys, but I'm gonna say it,

814
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: and venture path throughout your adventures on Matt season and

815
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: Rachel and Gabby season, ever think about leaving, whether like

816
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: it was just so overwhelming for you, you didn't know

817
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: if this was the right whatever it might be. Was

818
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: there any any point where that crossed your mind? Michelle?

819
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: Do you want offers? Yeah? I think where I when

820
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: you like struggle, It's not like I'm taking off and

821
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. I think it's natural to feel incredibly uncomfortable

822
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: and question things. And so in my situation, there's just

823
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: so many things that go into this where like you're

824
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: trying to constantly read this situation, and you're reading the

825
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: situation from the moment you step in until the moment

826
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: you're you know, you never truly know, You never truly

827
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: know as a contestant, if even if you're like a

828
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: runner up position or if your hometowns, you never know

829
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: if it's actually you. And so of course as a human,

830
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna question it. Yeah, it's like the fear of

831
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: your heart being broken because you know, yeah, it might

832
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: not be you at the end. So the easy way

833
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 1: out is to just like think in your mind, okay,

834
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm leaving, I'm leaving, and like for me, like I remember,

835
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, all night one of last season, I was

836
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: like I don't know if this is my thing or not.

837
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: Like I was like, not my cup of tea, and

838
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: that's you know, beating the women. But still like it's

839
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: such a scary environment you're in, and it all goes

840
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: down to having like it's just normal fear like everyone is.

841
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: It's like not about the person. I'm not leaving you

842
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: because you're not worth it. It's just like what is

843
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: going on is Yeah, well I wanted to ask you

844
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: that because I will say there was one week, it

845
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: was like week six or seven on our season where

846
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: I hadn't had a one on one date in since

847
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: week one, and I felt like I was falling behind.

848
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: I felt like he was having connections stronger than mine

849
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: up until that point. So I was like, well, what

850
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: am I still doing here? Like I'm uncomfortable. I feel

851
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: like I'm falling behind. So there was one week where

852
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I shouldn't maybe just go home, Like

853
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: if he's fall in love with these other girls, that's incredible,

854
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: but like, right now, he doesn't feel like me. And

855
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: so I asked that because like when Kat said well yes,

856
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure some viewers took it as like, oh my gosh,

857
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: well she's not here for the right reasons and she

858
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: must not be that into Zach. You know, like people's

859
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: minds go to like these weird places when all you

860
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: hear is the yes and you don't hear the why

861
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: behind it. But I could empathize with Kat in that

862
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: point because I was like, we've I'm sure most contestants

863
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: at some point or another, whether they Admitte or not,

864
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: have probably thought maybe I should just leave and remove

865
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: myself and maybe this isn't for me. And so I

866
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: think the more people like talk about that, even though

867
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: it might be taboo and again like not here for

868
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: the right reasons, I think it's important that people say,

869
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: like we're all out of our elements at some point

870
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: or another, and it's just a common, I think, human

871
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: emotion that everyone goes through on the show. So for Kat,

872
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: like and I know everyone was struggling this week and

873
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: especially on this date. But I could see where she

874
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: was coming from when she said that. But Okay, Zach,

875
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: I know that you're a busy, busy man, and we

876
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: don't want to keep you too much longer. But just

877
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: a couple more questions before we get into the end

878
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 1: of this. We all know you're going into hometowns next week,

879
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: which is such a pivotal part of this all like it,

880
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: it's when it really gets real. You're meeting the families,

881
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: you're meeting potential in laws. So how are you feeling now?

882
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: Are you ready to watch Hometown Week back yet? Or

883
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: you are you pretty nervous for this one? I'm pretty nervous.

884
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like all weeks I'm nervous watching it, but

885
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: this one in particular, like I'm very curious to see again.

886
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: Just how like everything you know did go? You know,

887
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: all four of the families are very special, Like they

888
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: really are very unique, and it was an overall great experience.

889
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: But that doesn't take away from the fact that it

890
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: was maybe the hardest week maybe, well, I know one thing,

891
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: I felt like that was one of the most stressful

892
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: weeks of this entire thing, because it's like you its

893
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: families are involved, and I'm like a big brother in

894
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: my own you know, life, and I'm going to be

895
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: meeting big brothers and i know exactly how they're going

896
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: to feel about me. It's like going to like not

897
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: going to war, but it's like be prepared to, Like

898
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna see it all, so it'll be good. All right, Well,

899
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: we're excited to see that. And then obviously after that

900
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: that home Yeah, Hometowns will air Monday. The Women Tell

901
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: All airs Tuesday, so we'll have a back to back

902
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: episode night without giving too much away, is there anything

903
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: that you can tease us for what's to come, like

904
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: what to expect with the remainder of the season. Yeah,

905
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: I'll just say after Women Tell All, um Overnight week,

906
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Fantasy Sweet week. Um it uh, it gets I don't

907
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: want to use the word juicy, but it gives fantasy

908
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: see fantasye the juice now a very descriptive chain and

909
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: does not necessarily go the way I think we all

910
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: thought it would. Oh that's a really good teaser. Well yeah,

911
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: now I'm thinking like I'm nervous about that's day interesting. Okay,

912
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Now I mean obviously we're gonna watch the

913
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: rest of your season. But damn now I'm very intrigued

914
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: about all this. Okay, okay, uh juicy and not the

915
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: way we think it's going to go. That's great. UM well, okay,

916
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 1: usually at this point we play a game. But again,

917
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: I know you like you're busy, So we're just going

918
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: to wrap it up here and UM, with all of

919
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: our guests, we get into this resource section where we

920
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: like to share a different resource. It's so important for

921
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: our listeners to stay informed and we just like to

922
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: offer a place where they can go and easily access

923
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: these different resources on what we're sharing. And so UM,

924
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: I'll kick it off, and then Michelle will go and

925
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: then Zach you can share your resource at the end.

926
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: But I'm going to pivot from the usual topic of

927
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: what we do and the resource I'm sharing this week

928
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: is an Instagram video with John Stewart and anyone can

929
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: go onto the account The problem with John Stewart, and

930
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: it's actually a recent interview that he did with UM.

931
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: I think it was an Oklahoma senator. I believe. Basically,

932
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 1: he interviews this senator about the Second Amendment and gun

933
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: rights and why he's advocating for like strict requirements for guns,

934
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: and just watch it. The senator is trying to argue

935
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: the opposite doesn't do a great job, but it's such

936
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: an important topic. We've seen so many mass shootings in

937
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: this country and guns are the leading cause of death

938
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: for children in this country. Yeah, and so he's basically

939
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: interviewing the senator and advocating for why we need better

940
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: regulations in place for people to own guns. And so

941
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: it's it's I think eight minutes. It's an interesting watch.

942
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: So I would highly urge everyone to go there again.

943
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: It's called the Problem with John Stewart. So that is

944
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: my resource for the week. And now, Michelle, if you

945
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: want to share yours, um mine's gonna be super short

946
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: and quick. I'm all about I'm anti racism is it's

947
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: a huge journey, it's a lifelong choice, but really making

948
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: it's efficient for people when they're coming down to putting

949
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: it at the work. And so there's it's called anti

950
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: Racism Daily. It's you can get it in a book form,

951
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: you can get it in an app form, and essentially

952
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: it's like kind of like your daily quote. I'm a

953
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: big quote person, but a quote comes across my screen

954
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: every single morning on on whatever app. Quote at quote app.

955
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm using same concept here, except for it's like either

956
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: resource it's a quote or it's just like a question

957
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: to reflect and think about, like a thought provoking question.

958
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: And so it's short and sweet. Um, gives you a

959
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: lot to think about. And it's also a really good

960
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: like conversation starter, whether it's at the dinner table, whether

961
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: a's in your work life, things like that. Um. And yeah,

962
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: so it's called a r D is what the apps called.

963
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: And I'll leave that a r D. Thank you, Michelle,

964
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: And now Zach you are up. Yeah, um, you know

965
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, for me, UM, Saint Jude, Saint Jude Children's

966
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: Hospital is something that I hold near and dear to

967
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: my heart and um, you know, recently I was trust

968
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: um at a fundraiser event for them. My uncle's um

969
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: then fundraising money for them for over ten years. But

970
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: the cool thing and what I love about Saint Jude

971
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: is that they support families of all backgrounds, all associate economic, race, backgrounds,

972
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: money and they make sure that they help every child

973
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: and family that comes in to the point that there

974
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: will not be a single bill ever sent to the

975
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: families of anyone of any children that is going through

976
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: any um, you know, medical issues, cancer, all the research,

977
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: it's all handled fully from Saint Hue and I'm just

978
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: the biggest fan of them. But it's it's pretty cool

979
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: work what they're doing and making sure that no family, like,

980
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: no matter how little money you make, it will be

981
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: fully covered housing bills, food travel for all the family

982
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: that's involved, for child that's going through it. That's incredible.

983
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: That's really that's really such a nice job. Yeah, well,

984
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: so thank you, Zach. The last thing we have for

985
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: you before you head out of here is your rose

986
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: and thorn. And I think you've done this the last

987
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: time you were Unhappy Hour. But basically your rose is

988
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: your highlight, favorite moment thus far on the show. And

989
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: then the thorn is obviously a messy moment, awkward, something

990
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: that you cringe at when you think about, oh yeah,

991
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: I can kill on. He's like, how long do I

992
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: got here? Yeah? I just write it out and give

993
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: you a check. Rose um. One thing that I still get,

994
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: you know, people coming up to me talking about it

995
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: and I loved it and it's something that I'll never forget.

996
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: And it happened a while ago was the Bachelor Bowl.

997
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: I the amount of people they come up to me

998
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: about that, just seeing like how well the girls played,

999
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: how like hard they you know, they put effort in,

1000
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: how cool you know our surprise guests were. Um Like,

1001
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: that was one of those just like moments that I

1002
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: that has not been you know, lived down by any means.

1003
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: So that's one I always look back on. But there

1004
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: there's been so many like very romantic dates, um that

1005
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: you know, I do replay over in my mind quite

1006
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: a bit. But I think the Bachelor Bowl is something

1007
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: that I'll get stopped about it like all the time,

1008
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of it's my football buddies. Um

1009
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: yeah that would you say that's your favorite group date?

1010
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: Because I was going to ask you that earlier. Does

1011
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: that like take the cake for your favorite group date? Yes? Yeah,

1012
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: I loved that. I also thought the The Bahamas one

1013
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: was pretty cool because it was different. It was actually

1014
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: us just hanging out. Like it wasn't like any weird

1015
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: mentalist type thing like in any like pame rules. It

1016
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: was like, let's just all have a barbecue. Yeah, Bahama,

1017
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: Mama's constantly almost too much, but okay, how much you

1018
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: craze when you said I'm just a Bahama papa searching

1019
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: for my papa. I love it. Did you get me?

1020
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: Did you get made into a gift or me? I

1021
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm like stretching midway through it. I'm like

1022
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: not thinking clearly. I just no. I mean, that's embraced

1023
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: the crene. I was cackling when you said that, because

1024
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: then I think a guy on Instagram, like two seconds

1025
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: before you said it, he was like, I guarantee he's

1026
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: gonna say he's a Bahama papa searching his Bahama mama.

1027
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: And then too many later pops up and he's like,

1028
00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: I called it us. You gave us all laugh So

1029
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: thank you. It was. It was good. It was a

1030
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: very entertaining. Yes, thank you. And then you're a thorn,

1031
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: my thorn. I think the biggest thorn of the whole

1032
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: season would would be just about the entire week in London. Um,

1033
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, not all of it. You know, I still

1034
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: had the time to have a one on one date there,

1035
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: but that whole week just was such a curveball that

1036
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: we kind of were all scrambling, like we didn't know

1037
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: what to do. This hasn't happened before you know it hurt.

1038
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: It hurt all the women. They didn't know what was

1039
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: going on. I didn't know when I was going to

1040
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: see them next. And you know, then there was you

1041
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: know the zoom or the virtual cocktail things, you know that. Yeah,

1042
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: as we all like saw like I I you know,

1043
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: could have handled that better as well. Um, but it

1044
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: was just such a frustrating, confusing week where everyone I

1045
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,479
Speaker 1: know was just guessing, like, what the hell's gonna happen? Yeah,

1046
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: what's the first time they've ever had to deal with that.

1047
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the show has had to restructure so much

1048
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: just since COVID. I mean we've seen seasons that were quarantine,

1049
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was the first time we've ever seen

1050
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: the lead have COVID and have to figure it out.

1051
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: And I mean they figure it out. They will figure

1052
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: anything out on this show, Like they really are the magicians,

1053
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: let's be honest, but still relying, still relying, you broke history. Yeah,

1054
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: there you go, and pore exactly. Honestly, I was thinking

1055
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: about that. I'm like, God, this has got to suck

1056
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: because he probably misses these women. But I was like, dude,

1057
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: he's catching up on so much sleep and that has

1058
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: got to be nice. Oh well, well, Zach, thank you

1059
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: so much. I know Becca and I are happy to

1060
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: just have learned so much more about you. I know

1061
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: it was a crazy launched tier season. I know that

1062
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. There's always a lot of

1063
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Speaker 1: noise and battination at times too, and there's not there's support,

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: and sometimes there's not a lot of support. But I

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01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: hope you can patch yourself on the back. Truly. I

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01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: mean it when I say there's They call you boring

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01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, but you you truly do and

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01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: have seen I've seen you make these women so comfortable, um,

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01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: which just the way that you handle conversations, the way

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Speaker 1: that you acknowledge the awkwardness of the camera in your conversations,

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Speaker 1: and just kind of getting everyone to embrace, um, just

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Speaker 1: embrace the whole show experience. And that's not hard to

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01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: do when you are also learning and getting your lead

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01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: legs underneath you, so that it is hard to do, alright,

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01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: So sorry, yeah, it's it's not it's sorry. Yeah, it's

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01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: very hard to do. Or I sometimes think that when

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01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: when people are there as leads, you're the lead of

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01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: a show. But it's like not like none of us

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01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: have been here before to know what the hell we're doing,

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01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: and it's so different from being a contestant, and so

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01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: truly like you've done such a great job with making

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01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: those women comfortable as comfortable as possible in this really

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01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: weird situation. Yeah, so and we and we're really happy

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01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: like you are able to join us today. I know

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: it's a crazy time putting ourselves back in this limbo

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01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: phase where you're hopefully in love and want to share

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01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: it with the world and you just can't. And so

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01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: you have been so incredible to watch with these women.

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01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 1: They all seem like so enthralled with you, and you

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: really have a great cast. So the best part I

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01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: will say is yet to come. Once all of this

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01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: craziness is over. You do have a lot to look

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01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: forward to. And in the meantime, I mean from two

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01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: leads who have been in your shoes, we are here

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01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: to answer questions, advice, to vent, to bitch, whatever it

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01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: needs to be. We are here and just know that that,

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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: like the lights at the end of the tunnel, good

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01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: times ahead and we're here to support you. So the

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01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: next time we see you on a happy hour, we

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: hope that you're accompanied by wonderful lady next to you.

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01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: If that smiles any indication I think this worked for you.

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01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: So we will wait a couple of weeks to find out.

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01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: But thank you in the midtime, and again we're always here.

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01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure. Well, Michelle,

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01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we finally had him on. And it's

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01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: nice having the leads on further in the season as

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01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: opposed to like right after night one, because we have

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01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: so much more to chat with them about. Yeah, they're

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01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: just and I didn't really think about that until today

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01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: but or after our conversation with Zach. But it's like

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01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: when you're it is nice to have him at the

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01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: beginning because I mean you talk about the excitement and

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01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: they're and all these different things and what could potentially come.

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01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: But now that we're in this stage where it's already

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01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: filmed and now he's already going through the process of

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01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: like rewatching it. He has done like the press tours,

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01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: he's done all those different things. It's just you become

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01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: more comfortable was speaking about it vulnerable. There's just more

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01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: like wisdom there, I guess, not that there's not before,

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Speaker 1: but like it's just easier to speak about a different

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01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: like a deeper understanding of how everything kind of works postseason,

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01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: I would say, and he's and that's why, like we're

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01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: we love always having new guests on again, like every week.

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01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: I love having the new contestants on because we get

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Speaker 1: to know them more. And I'm happy that we finally

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01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 1: had him on because I felt like he could kind

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01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: of reflect and hopefully feel like he was in a

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Speaker 1: safe space with us, because like we've been in issues,

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01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: We've all made mistakes. There's things that we've regretted or

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01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: wish we did differently, and so we can empathize with him.

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Speaker 1: But I'm glad that he was in a place where

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01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: he can kind of now reflect and be like, you know,

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01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: I wish I would have handled this a bit differently,

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01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: or I can see where somebody was coming from during

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01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: the conversation. And so Zach think you we know that

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01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: you're a busy, busy man. He is in the midst

1137
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: He is probably traveling like crazy, constant interviews, like his

1138
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: life is about to get even crazier, and so the

1139
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: fact that he could take an hour or two out

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01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: of his day to just chat with us, I really appreciate.

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01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: So it was great to have you, zach On and Michelle.

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Speaker 1: Good to be back with you again, and a huge

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01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: thank you to all of our Happy Hour listeners. Of course,

1144
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: we couldn't do this every week without you, so thank

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: you for tuning in. And just a quick reminder, next

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01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: week is going to be a bit different. So like usual,

1147
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: you'll still catch your normal Bachelor episode on Monday at

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01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: eight seventh Central, but we also have an episode next Tuesday.

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01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: Hometowns is Monday. Tuesday is finally The Women Tell All,

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01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: which Michelle, I know that we're I'm not guys excited

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01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: we're looking forward to I mean obviously, and we should

1152
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,479
Speaker 1: just touch on this, I guess really quick. Since we're here,

1153
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 1: there's obviously so much that has to be covered on

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01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: the Women Tell All. Some of these women we haven't

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01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: seen for weeks. What are you looking forward to for

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01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: the Tell All? I just think I can kind of

1157
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: just speak on there's been a lot of conversations behind

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01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: the scenes, Nobecca that you've been in some of those

1159
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: as well, to just really make sure that we're moving

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Speaker 1: forward in a positive direction. And I'm interested and hopeful

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Speaker 1: that for this next segment here with the Women Tell All,

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: that those things will be addressed and that also the

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01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: cast is able to address just some different things that

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01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: they've kind of navigating through as well. And so yeah,

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01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: that's I'm hoping for that. Yeah, I think that's all

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01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: I'll say. Yeah, I think the one thing that we're

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01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: interested in seen and you know, we kind of touched

1168
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: on this a bit at the very beginning of the

1169
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: season was some of the tweets and the social posts

1170
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: with Career, and she's somebody who we haven't seen a

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: ton of on the season, just given the circumstances of

1172
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: having COVID and not being able to travel, but we've

1173
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: all seen those tweets that are out there, and so

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01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: I hope that this is a platform that a conversation

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: can be had and that can be addressed. And so again,

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01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot that goes down on

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Speaker 1: the Tell All, as there always is, but I'm going

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01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: to keep my fingers crossed that that's something that's included

1179
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: because we've kind of dropped the ball a bit in

1180
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: the past on those conversations. So we will be tuning

1181
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: in next week definitely to see both the Hometown episode

1182
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: and Tell All again Monday and Tuesday, eight seven Central

1183
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: on ABC and then you can also stream those the

1184
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: next day on Hulu. And another reminder is that casting

1185
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: is still open for men to date our next to Bachelorette.

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01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: So if you are single yourself, or if you know

1187
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: a friend or family member who is single that you

1188
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: want to nominate, just go to the website and that

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01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:01,600
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