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Speaker 1: The Justice Department, thank you, that was what Well, it's

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Speaker 1: So we've got sixty seconds left, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: Times with Julian E. Barnes that under federal law, Richard

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we're gonna talk more Grinnell and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: panel's quick take on their radar. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief

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Speaker 1: Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio, and you're

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Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin

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Speaker 1: f Bloomberg Television and Woomberg Radio. I will not be

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Speaker 1: and we are, I believe, headed to South Carolina, Nina

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Speaker 1: for the debate on Tuesday. The Democratic presidential debate. It's

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Speaker 1: I'm in Las Vegas because we were re covering whatever

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Speaker 1: being more permanent. I wanted to give you the opportunity

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Speaker 1: This is just another example of how norm are being trampled.

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Speaker 1: We have the Senate, which has the obligation to confirm

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Speaker 1: these nominees, but we're bouncing now from an outgoing acting

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Speaker 1: of Senate accountability. Now that's concerning not just for Trump,

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Speaker 1: the necessity of formalizing some tougher regulations on how all

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Speaker 1: be accountable to a coequal branch of government. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: hear you on that. It's now time for my favorite

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Speaker 1: That's on your radar? Where our panel tells us one

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Speaker 1: thing that they're following that they're tracking that doesn't really

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Speaker 1: And you know what, it's a coin toss. Who wants

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Speaker 1: to go first? Don't speak all at once? Wow, Okay

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Speaker 1: for that, John, You're up first. Well, Kevin, I can

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Speaker 1: I'm gravely concerned that the Chinese Communist Party authorities are

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Speaker 1: supply chains, for instance, incentive US pharmaceuticals and medical equipment

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Speaker 1: most vulnerable Americans. See that's that's such a great point.

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Speaker 1: And when I when I spoke to Jared Kushner a

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Speaker 1: the President, for his part, has been largely praiseworthy. Secretary

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Speaker 1: State Mike Pompeo also not weighing in in a critical

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Speaker 1: that's I think a step that the Chinese are not

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Speaker 1: your quick take? So on my radar is actually expanding

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Speaker 1: on the Rick Grinnell situation. Is the hearing that took

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons that McGuire was suddenly pushed out

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Speaker 1: foreign interference. Okay, you're what you're referencing is a story

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Speaker 1: the next I don't know day, uh and well, and

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Speaker 1: It's also not related to uh foreign policy at all,

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Speaker 1: Alison Parker is a television correspondent who nearly five years ago,

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Speaker 1: Alison Parker a young, talented television correspondent. She was murdered

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Speaker 1: Commission against Google, which owns YouTube, and is saying essentially

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Speaker 1: I can't even fathom the pain that her family, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not even going to speak in a cliche where

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Speaker 1: it's disgusting that these videos haven't been taken down. And

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Speaker 1: it's not opinion, it's fact, Max, I mean the pressure

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Speaker 1: it's disgusting. And the fact that it's clearly in violation

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Speaker 1: policies using a combination of machine learning technology and human review,

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Speaker 1: and over the last few years, we've removed thousands of

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Speaker 1: copies of this video for violating our policies. We will

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Speaker 1: continue to stay vigilant and improve our policy and enforcement.

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Speaker 1: I just John Cilitis your reaction. Yeah, I wish I

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Speaker 1: knew more about the type of processes that these companies

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Speaker 1: of degradation and the kind of filth that permeates so

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Speaker 1: much of our social media and the like. But I

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Speaker 1: in the House of Representatives and the Senate that are

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Speaker 1: to come, and depending on who wins the elections, you

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Speaker 1: John Max, thank you. We got to leave it there.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Sirillichi bosh In, the correspondent for Bloomberg Television

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Speaker 1: and Bloomberg Radio. That's the quick take that's on my radar.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Bloomberg. M