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Speaker 1: About Yeah, better than tell me about.

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Speaker 2: These are the radio blogs on the Fred Show life

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Speaker 2: running in our diaries, except we say them a loud

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Speaker 2: We call them blogs.

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Speaker 1: Kiki. Yes, I can relate to this, go dear blog.

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Speaker 3: So recently I've been helping a friend try to figure

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Speaker 3: out like a new career path and like find a

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Speaker 1: If my friend you mean you know, oh no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: this is this? Is it? Honey?

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Speaker 3: After this is I think I'm just supposed to be

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Speaker 3: me like in life, you know what I'm.

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Speaker 1: Saying, Like, I do just think that after this is

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Speaker 1: back to KFC. No no, no, no, no, there is no KFC.

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Speaker 1: Is this or unemployed? Because it's either this for me

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Speaker 1: or back to Blockbuster.

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Speaker 2: And since Blockbuster doesn't exist anymore, you're.

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Speaker 1: Going to be in Van Orgon. Where is it?

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Speaker 3: Ask you?

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Speaker 1: The only one? Yeah, yeah, this is it for me.

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Speaker 3: But so on this journey, though, I just thought of

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Speaker 3: the times where I was kind of like, you know, guys,

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Speaker 3: I was very scared to do this job for a

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Speaker 3: long time, and so I would have jobs and I

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Speaker 3: just wasn't happy, you with, But at that time I

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Speaker 3: was applying for jobs that I probably had no business

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Speaker 3: actually applied to be a program director in this building.

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Speaker 2: Way to run the entire radio station. Honestly, it probably

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Speaker 2: would have been a great idea. You probably are more

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Speaker 2: qualified than you said. No, No, no, selling knives. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I try to invest in yourself, kicking knives, investing you.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to invest in yourself, then.

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Speaker 3: One thing for sure, Like I just I don't know

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Speaker 3: if anybody else has had this experience where you applied

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Speaker 3: you have No, I had no experience.

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Speaker 1: I had no It's just I was an intern, Like.

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Speaker 3: How can I be go from being an intern to

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Speaker 3: a program director? And I really applied for that job,

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Speaker 3: and I know they saw my application because I was

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Speaker 2: They left, did they give you a courtesy interview? No,

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Speaker 2: that would have been funny, Like sure, why not?

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Speaker 3: I was waiting by the phone literally for that job

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Speaker 3: have you ever been in like a desperate situation where

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Speaker 2: I've done this for so long that I don't this

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Speaker 4: I've been desperate in like reaching out to people because

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Speaker 4: and I, like my mom thought it was very much

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Speaker 4: like you know, corporate America, Like you send a resume

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Speaker 4: So I've been a little chaotic with like dming people

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Speaker 1: To do it relax, you mean for here, Like that's

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Speaker 1: were like you're you're editing the cramp out of the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I line a lot. You've all heard the story before.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, but like I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't ever tell anyone you don't.

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Speaker 2: Know how to do something, because you can, especially now

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't mean to encourage people to lie,

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Speaker 4: Hi, day, I got here right, Oh no, we knew you.

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Speaker 1: Guys knew Okay, well yeah Bob Barker hired you. Everyone

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Speaker 1: To be like a lawyer, you know, you don't even

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Speaker 3: But people could just apply for stuff, and I was

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Speaker 1: I got to apply for stuff.

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Speaker 2: No, And I encourage people to apply, I mean, apply

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Speaker 1: But I mean, hey, it worked out for.

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Speaker 2: And you've been You've been doing it longer than I've

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Speaker 2: What was I doing? But the same with you, Pauline.

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Speaker 1: And then you got hired, so boom, go figure me.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like, if you're interering somebody wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: What they'd contribute or what they would know to the table.

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Speaker 1: You did it exactly. And by the way, you were

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Speaker 2: That's you know, you were a train wreck of a

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Speaker 1: And look at you.

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Speaker 2: But you were right about a lot of things, and

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Speaker 2: you made a lot of things better on our show.

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Speaker 2: But you were showing up drunk and you know, I

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Speaker 2: many stories I mean crying about boys and.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can't write that stuff though, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's this, This room is full of incredible human beings,

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Speaker 2: but also everyone has is a little off, and it's

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Speaker 2: I am the captain. I am the captain of off.

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Speaker 2: I am the most off of all of it. So

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Speaker 2: I can say it. But like, you don't get hired

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Speaker 2: necessarily because you know you're a hard worker. Even though

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Speaker 1: You saw from day one, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I think the I think the best thing was when

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Speaker 2: we called your ball because you were working as an

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Speaker 2: assistant Paulina for for for for Bill Barker, the famous

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Speaker 2: Bill Barker who sells commercials. He's an exeasing executive. I

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Speaker 2: don't need to minimize him.

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Speaker 1: Get the title right, I'm sick of it. President something.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what they make up titles, right,

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Speaker 2: everyone is I'm the I'm the president of something. I

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Speaker 2: between a vice president and senior vice president?

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Speaker 1: Hey, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I remember I called him and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: you're part time assistant. We're gonna I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And I'm like yeah, he goes, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The box and all your stuff, he did, your stuff,

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Speaker 2: brought it down like he didn't hesitate.

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Speaker 1: Are you serious?

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Speaker 2: Like He's like okay, And I was thinking, mainly made

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Speaker 2: a mistake.

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Speaker 1: My problem. You literally packed your stuff for you and

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Speaker 1: brought it down. Okay, one man's trash is another man's treasure.

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Speaker 1: And you are You know what you are our treasure?

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Speaker 1: You are? You are.

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Speaker 2: I've made a lot of mistakes on this show, but

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Speaker 2: you weren't one of them. Let's come back. We'll do

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Speaker 2: waiting by the phone. It's brand new. Next upter Doja

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Speaker 2: Cat Friend Show's on