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Speaker 1: And we're here now, Nicole. The way we start out

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Speaker 1: soundtrack phenomenal. I don't know, keep holding on, Yeah, nothing,

426
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: you could say nothing, you can do way when it

427
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: goes even bringing about not even well, they did it

428
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: on Glee and it was pretty emotional, you know. It

429
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: was when Glee was good in season one. Okay, I

430
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: really like to Glee the first season. I will say,

431
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: you know the part of the magnifying glass on your

432
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: on your Instagram where it's like discover. Yeah, yes, there's

433
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: something sinister in my algorithm that Glee fan art makes

434
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: up of it and I don't know how, but it's

435
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: like it's it's so people that are still making Glee

436
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: fan art to this day, what are they trying? What

437
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: are they making? I don't know. Well, so much of

438
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: his unfamiliar to me because I think I only really

439
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: watched the first season of Glee. Me the second season,

440
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: I truly can't remember. But yeah, it's like I just

441
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: want to go there and discover as Instagram wants me to,

442
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: but I cannot because there is so much Glee contect. God,

443
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: Glee was truly good for thirteen episodes. It was truly good.

444
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: It was actually pretty good. I was always weirded out

445
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: by Matthew Morrison's character. Yeah, I felt like I was

446
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: so sexually unsure of what I was supposed to make

447
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: of him. I was pretty sure it's actually what I

448
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: was making of him. But I understand I definitely wanted

449
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: to fuck Will Schuster, in fact, much more than I

450
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: was interested in any of like Schuster was Matthew Morrison. Yeah, yeah,

451
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: but I wasn't into you know, rest in Peace. Um

452
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: wasn't into Puck who that's a crazy story. That's insane,

453
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: is insane, but it's also not surprising, like it's crazy,

454
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: but you're just like, I mean, I guess yeah, you

455
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: know who was hot? Was the blonde guy that came

456
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: on like later in the show. I don't know his name, honestly,

457
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: who who knows? You know? Brittany Like Brittany that actress

458
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: was just a backup dancer for Beyonce and and she

459
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: got cash. She was on Beyonce episode of SNL. Yeah,

460
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: and then she got cast on Glee. Is just like

461
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: a dancer and then her character just like broke out.

462
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: And like my mom, team at UCB used to be

463
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: like permanently stationed on the schedule after Gravid Water and

464
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: Diana Agron was on on on Gravid Water one week

465
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: and I just saw backstage and I was just like,

466
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Speaker 1: you are so we're just she is I mean, she's beautiful, Yeah,

467
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: she's and she she just says this big smile and

468
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: she's so radiant. I didn't see it because I was

469
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: just there for she was supposed to do the DCM

470
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: gravid water and then something happened when she couldn't do it,

471
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: but she was gonna come. She's good, you probably good.

472
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: I think she was good on the show. I mean

473
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: backstage she was just like, you know, peling around and

474
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: she just seemed like super chill and nice, but but

475
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: also like distractingly. Yeah, yeah, beautiful, she's gorge human who

476
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: I heard is a absolute nightmare And this will shock

477
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: now when is Leah Michelle? In fact, I have a

478
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: friend who was at the same party as her, and

479
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: this might be a little telling, but he went to

480
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: the closet to get his coat, opened the door and

481
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: there was Lea Michelle rifling through all the coats, and

482
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: the host of the party said, Leah, what are you doing?

483
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: And she just came out and said, I was looking

484
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: for drugs? Oh can I say that one here? And

485
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: then you hear about Cornymnteeth. And actually I had another

486
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: friend who we all know. I'll tell you guys off

487
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: the air, but he was friends of the cast member

488
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: on Glee. And apparently, yeah, they all are big, we're big.

489
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: Surprising and again not surprising, but it's like, yeah, you

490
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: give them, you give kids at age a lot of money,

491
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: or honestly, not even kids young adults that age pretending

492
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: to be kids of l A. Where you don't necessarily

493
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: have that much to do. That's why I think, like

494
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: Bowen and I are going out to l A and

495
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: what we people keep saying there's no culture there. There's

496
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: no culture there. It's boring, and I think I feel like, yeah,

497
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: well that must maybe that's the case of why people

498
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: get involved in such weird ship around there is because

499
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: there's not much to do when they have a lot

500
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: of money. Is l A different from New York? I

501
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: think I hear that. I hear that there's a debate

502
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: to be had about people talk about the differences between

503
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: l A and New York. I just you know, if

504
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: someone thinks that one's better than the other, I'd love

505
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: to hear their thoughts. Yeah, I would love to hear

506
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: how you get around in l A. Um, you know

507
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: here they I hear they have uber But you know,

508
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm willing to hear more. Um, guys, today's episode, you

509
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: know this is this is a moment because All Stars

510
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: Too has been so good. We can agree it has

511
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: changed television and actually, I mean it's like feels so

512
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: stupid to say, but it actually has changed my life.

513
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: I would agree with you the mentalities like I this

514
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: is maybe gonna sound bizarre, but I thought today on

515
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: the subway, if I ever saw RuPaul, but I say

516
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: to him, and our friend Jamie Star has seen and

517
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: she did, and she did she handled it the best.

518
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: Best knows. She's an idol. She's how he thinks. Yeah,

519
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: she's a genius. She basically just put her head down,

520
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: walk next to him and said, I just want you

521
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: to know that I love you. And he said, he looked,

522
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: he said I love you too, and he meant it.

523
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: He meant it, and like, the thing is, anyone who

524
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything about RuPaul thinks that that's a joke

525
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: because you say like and he meant it, and and

526
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, you laughed because for other people that would

527
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: be insane, but it's true. And then look after I

528
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: graduate from college on the train, uh, and then we

529
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: stopped at Wall Street and then people in the car screamed,

530
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: look that's RuPaul. And RuPaul was just had just come

531
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: out of a car, was in this beautiful suit, looked

532
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: so good. Just throw up through up piece sign and

533
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: just wave to people and just looked so cool. Yeah,

534
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: but just a radiant in person. You're like your I

535
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: go straight to that person no matter what you think

536
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: of that person. I was just like, oh God, RuPaul

537
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: is beautiful. Well, I would say just for myself, like

538
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: just like the little nuggets of wisdom that he drops

539
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: make it very clear to me, like life. I had

540
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: to literally pause the episode so this so, I mean,

541
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: you know we're recording this. The third episode just came

542
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: out last night, and the first two episodes were like

543
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: the supersized drama filled and like in wisdom filled episodes,

544
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: and last night it was like a more traditional clipping

545
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: along sort of EPI. But when they were doing the

546
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: judge at the end and um and Katya was being

547
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: criticized for her Princess Die, which you know, we'll talk,

548
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: but when Rue was like, to be fair, yeah, like

549
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: to be fair. You know, Princess Die is the only

550
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: the only person being portrayed here that we actually know

551
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: what she looked like. And maybe Catty didn't have the

552
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: same creativity or didn't have the same leeway to be

553
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: creative as the other queen. I pause to the episode

554
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: and I turned to Branson and I was like, I mean,

555
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: we did not have to say that, but I mean it,

556
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: which is such a like a it's a it's a

557
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: small that's a small, but it's a brilliance of rue.

558
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: But then but then when we said that, I was like,

559
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: but wait a minute, roxy played a perune and you

560
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: technically have photography. But maybe it's not like as burned

561
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: into the consciousness of First of all, I don't even

562
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: world we'll get to that. I would just say, like,

563
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: for me, what makes the whole idea of ru rue

564
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: coming forward? Like being in the consciousness and saying like,

565
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, we're all born naked and the rest is dragged.

566
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: That is so freeing. It's just because I think it's

567
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: truly the first time, like and of course as you

568
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: get into it, as you go into adulthood and as

569
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: you kind of you know, mature, you do realize like

570
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: what is this and what is this? And why do

571
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: I dress this way? And why are they selling me

572
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: things all the time? And why this? I remember the

573
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: first time I ever I think I've said this before,

574
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: but the first time I ever became aware of the

575
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: fact that I was like a pawn in society is

576
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: when Sudie and I were watching The X Factor and

577
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: Sudi said, count how many pepsi cans you see? And

578
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. And all of a

579
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: sudden I realized that I was being aggressively catered to

580
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: as a consumer and they and that they didn't care

581
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: about me as a person. And I was like, well,

582
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: what's the world. And then RuPaul talking about like the matrix,

583
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: Like the world is the matrix and whether you're going

584
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: to be a participant in that or not. When you

585
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: realize the matrix, then you can really have fun and

586
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: you know what to like the Man behind the Curtain,

587
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz I think about talking about when

588
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: you see the man behind the curtain, your instinct is

589
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: to be angry, and then you you can decide later

590
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: to not be angered. You can just play in the

591
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: matrix and decide to have fun with it. I mean,

592
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: the thing about RuPaul that is that makes him, in

593
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: my mind like such a religious figure is he truly

594
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: has a a stock like stock philosophies, and I mean

595
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: it's it's it's Jesus esque, and that there are these

596
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: sets of principles that are completely he completely inhabits them,

597
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: he shares them with everybody there for everybody. It's all

598
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: from a place of love, and it's it's not like

599
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: he's not really a very fluid figure in the sense

600
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 1: that like he's he doesn't have this kind of like

601
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: evolving uh philosophy that like changes depending on the setting.

602
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you hear him talk about the same

603
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: things over and over again and they're always true, and

604
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: it's so um advance and you go back and watch

605
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: older stuff where he's talking and it's the same, like

606
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: the same nuggets of wisdom. Hear him talk about the

607
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: inner saboteur. I mean, yes, maybe you could probably find

608
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: him talking about it fifty times and it's always correct.

609
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing that's stunning, you know what. I

610
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: you know what I've been really stewing on lately, and

611
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: like this has been with me for years, but like

612
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: lately I've really paid attention to. This is the Mark

613
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: barn episode where is coming from inside the House. Yes,

614
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: that related to that. Um this part where he goes

615
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: after he talks about the Wizard of Oz and he's

616
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: like and you know what, It's like Dorothy realizes at

617
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: the end of the movie, like it was always in

618
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: her to go home. She always had the power and

619
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: she just didn't realize it and after and she didn't

620
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: realize until after she saw the man behind the curtain

621
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: and then she realizes, Oh, I've had it in me

622
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: all this time, and no, you could do it for me.

623
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: And isn't that like debating? I know that sounds they're cheesy,

624
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: but like it's that's an amazing story. It's just like

625
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: an is RuPaul Buddhist? What is it? Well? I mean

626
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: he he he's he practices yoga. I mean, I'm not

627
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: saying like it's a religious practice. I'm just saying like

628
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: he's he's very spiritual and like connected with like his

629
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: body and like you know, just kind of the other.

630
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: But I don't think he prescribes to anything. Yeah, well

631
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: not that I know of, right, And because I've been

632
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: trying that, it's the closest I've felt to feeling religious

633
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: in a long time, to be honest, because I finally

634
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: have mantras that I can say, and I've been able

635
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: to I think help people by telling them this. You know,

636
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: we have a mutual friend who was struggling a long

637
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: time and we had lunch and I feel like just

638
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: by telling that person, like you know, life is drag,

639
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that helped, and then something huge

640
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: and like and and so like I don't know, I

641
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: just feel like it means everything to just say, you

642
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: know what, I'm actually going to make the decision to

643
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: not care and just do me because who made the

644
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: rules anyway exactly? You know. I remember like just before

645
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: before I ever started to like feel like a quote

646
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: unquote was doing well and kind of knew myself as

647
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: a comic, I had people that I looked up to

648
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: and I really wanted to find out why. And then

649
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: I went to go see Josh and Aaron's um Josh

650
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: Sharpen Aaron Jackson's uc B show Fucking Identical Twins at

651
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: at uc B, and Shannon O'Neill came out and she

652
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: said something beforehand, which was the reason why this show

653
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: works is because they don't give a fuck like they

654
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: do them And then I clocked that, and then I

655
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: also read Yes Please by Amy Poehler and she said

656
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: something like when you're having fun, everyone well, and that's

657
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: what I was going to say, is like I never

658
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: really thought about fun until recently. Like I just I

659
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm a pretty I can be kind

660
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: of intense I think for being a comedian and a

661
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: very serious person for the most point part um and

662
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: like I because I'm not naturally care free, I always

663
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: had linked being care free to having fun or that

664
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: fun is like an activity, not the result of an activity.

665
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let's do something fun, and then

666
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: whether or not you have fun as irrelevant. But there's

667
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: but Ru. Rue is is constantly in the pursuit of fun,

668
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: and like fun in a way that is just I mean,

669
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: it's there for everybody, and it's there's something deeper to it.

670
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: But like, since seriously like letting Rue into my life

671
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: and my headspace, I've developed more of like a taste

672
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: and an instinct for like finding fun and kind of

673
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: realizing like that actually should be the main mission. What

674
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: Rue says is that fun is not a care freeness

675
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: or a carelessness. It's actually an awareness of circumstances. And

676
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: we're talking about Rue, Paul, Guys. I'm just saying this

677
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: in a way that sounds very cultish, but I think

678
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: it's like I'm fine with it, but like Rue has

679
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: changed my life, yes, she you know, I mean I

680
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: feel I can speak about it. Well. The thing about

681
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: Rue is it rue? Is like not without problems there

682
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: because when it comes to things like gender identity and language,

683
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: like it's so weird, Like, Okay, Donald Trump will come

684
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: in front of a group and he'll be like, people

685
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: want to say this about me, but it's just words,

686
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: and obviously he doesn't mean it because he's so sensitive

687
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: and and do you read it as defensiveness and see

688
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: it as kind of childishness like immaturity. It's it's weird

689
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: to see it's but it's stranger to see ru Paul

690
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: talk about words because he means it. And when he

691
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: says words do not matter and that it doesn't matter

692
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: what you call something and it doesn't and that words

693
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: can't hurt you, it's like that's not true for most people.

694
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: And it's and it's in some ways like a little

695
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: irresponsible to believe that that is how it works. But

696
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: there is like inspiration that I draw from seeing him

697
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: like kind of reachless enlightened state where he's like you

698
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: cannot touch me, because I mean, yeah, I was talking

699
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: to Dylan Marin about that very thing because like I

700
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: was just really worked up one day after some internet

701
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: common or like said something very derogatory and then because

702
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: and Dylan deals with that every day, he really does.

703
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: And then we were talking about this exact point that

704
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: Ruth says that words don't matter, we're shooting her at you,

705
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: and we were like, but wait a minute, doesn't seem

706
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: congrument to this other philosophy that's built around RuPaul. And

707
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: so yeah, that is well, that's drag though, Yeah, it's

708
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: it's it's And again you could also say, you know,

709
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: choosing to be offended or seek out that kind of

710
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: situation is you know, being a part of the mixics

711
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: and willing be being a participant in um the acceptance

712
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: of the bullying you're going to go through. And so like,

713
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: I guess, and I what I think RuPaul like, for example,

714
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: you know he had to take out that you got

715
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: she mail um and everything after contestants that had been

716
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: on the show. We're upset about it and spoke spoke

717
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: out about it. I think RuPaul, maybe he wouldn't admit this,

718
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: but I think he truly feels a little bit offended

719
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: and feels a little bit like, seriously, this is so

720
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: obvious that you're going to like decide to turn against me,

721
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Like RuPaul, I've heard say like I've been on the

722
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: front lines. Like he's just upset, I think, and maybe

723
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: a little irritated himself for being upset and allowing himself

724
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: to get upset about it, because I think he is

725
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: that like these people that he represents I think one

726
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: way and like are not even biting the hand, but

727
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: like being ungrateful. And I do think that he probably

728
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: checked his own ego about it, or is aware of

729
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: the fact that that is the ego rising well. I

730
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: think I think it's it's hard because it's like, I

731
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: don't think he means that words don't matter. I just

732
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: think it means that you can rise above words that

733
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: like that that that that's that the self prevails. Yeah,

734
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: it's it's really complicated because words, words really can hurt you.

735
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: But they make a point about it on this episode,

736
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they get into it. Oh

737
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: my gosh. I mean, like, I honestly, I have to

738
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: tell you, I'm like feeling overwhelmed right now because there's

739
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: so much I want to talk about. Because there's Rue,

740
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: there's Roos the person the guru, there's row As the

741
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: host and the mastermind, and then there's just the fucking

742
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: show that I just I mean the show, especially right now,

743
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: in like the trajectory of the season right now, they

744
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: all are very intertwined. So let's start talking about the show.

745
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: We're getting deep, I kind of say, we've we've we've

746
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: gotten deep as ship. Yes, but but you know, I

747
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: have had a hard year and like I just you know,

748
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: and it happens, and like I just I've had like

749
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: just I've just had some ship this year. And I

750
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: in watching RuPaul's drag Race has been in a vital

751
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: part of myself. I mean it's a massive, massive, like

752
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: and and it's not just listening to the Marin interview,

753
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: which I do. I mean I really listened to that

754
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: one because it's just so good and it's like rewatching

755
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: older episodes like it has been a part of healing

756
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: for me this year. So I mean, like I mean,

757
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: and it's and I do have to say, as a woman,

758
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: sometimes it can be confusing because drag is not is

759
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: not my part of my culture. Um, and I'm and

760
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: and there are certain things that by doing it, it's

761
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: appropriation and so I can never fully be like in

762
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: the fandom as much as a gay man can, as

763
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: it should be. But like you kind of it's kind

764
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: of what makes you like a true follower, if that

765
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: makes any sense. Like, I can't put myself in the

766
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: place of a contestant or even a judge on the

767
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: show just by by ruling out like identity, but because

768
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: of the overarching philosophy that Rue has that we're all

769
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: ber naked and the rest is drag, Like you can

770
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: really get like as close as you possibly can and

771
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: still be a part of it all. It's kind of

772
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: even and as gay men who don't do drag cannot

773
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: fully like place ourselves and like immerse ourselves in in

774
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: the same way. It's like there can't be a full

775
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: parity of the things of identity. It's yeah, it's so

776
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: fascinating because the show is truly for everyone. I've never

777
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: met someone who started watching the show and did not

778
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: fall in love with it. And Branson, my boyfriend, straight

779
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: man uh is part of our We have a we

780
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: have a Facebook fan group where we discuss Branson is

781
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: part of the group and he reads everything, but he

782
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: doesn't comment, and he just he and whether or not

783
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: there's a right answer or not, he just is like

784
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: he is even not then just being a straight man.

785
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: He's like it's just He's like, I have opinions, and

786
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: I love talking about them in person. He's like, but

787
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: it feels like co opting the conversation from the place

788
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: of a straight man. He's like, I just can't do it.

789
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: I can say that I welcome those conversations with everybody.

790
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I truly just want to talk about it

791
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: with away anyway. Listen, I just I guess, I just

792
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: I just don't care. I just think it's fun. I

793
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: think it's fun for everybody. And also you have to

794
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: remember talking about what who belongs to, what belongs to who,

795
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: Like we're watching men dress up as women and and so,

796
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: and like it's more than that. Yeah, but the thing is,

797
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: we have a contemporary too, and I would like to

798
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: hear what you have to think about this Nicole. And

799
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: this is a great friend of all of ours. And

800
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't even remember, I don't even know if she

801
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: remembers saying this, but one time I was discussing RuPaul's

802
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: drag race with this person and she said, yeah, it's fun.

803
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: It's just a shame that drag queens hate women. And

804
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: I really and this is an extremely smart person, and

805
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: I really had to think about and consider that point

806
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: of view. And I don't even know if they still

807
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: feel this way, but I really had to think about

808
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: and consider and and what do you think about that ideology? Well,

809
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: I think it's hard because because I don't think that

810
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: a lot of drag queens are dressing up as women,

811
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: like that's not how I think. Yeah, for some and

812
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: then for others, it's a character that is an expression

813
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: of femininity, but it's not. It's not an expression of womanhood.

814
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: There's there's so because and and this is this is

815
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: a thought that I have. Uh, when we see on

816
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: RuPaul's Drag Race or in a live performance of drag,

817
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: we're watching the height of a portrayal of an empowered woman.

818
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: And that is not exactly how the natural state of

819
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: womanhood in our society. We don't when we picture a

820
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: woman on the street, we don't see them as a

821
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: supermodel of the world, and we don't see them we

822
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: see them functioning in society, interacting with other people and

823
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: experiencing the oppression that comes along with that. And when

824
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: you think of an empowered woman, it comes in many,

825
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: many different forms. But in a lot of ways, we

826
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: perceive beauty as a weakness that undermines a woman's strength

827
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: of character because we are kind of trained when we're

828
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: growing up that your appearance is antithetical to your intelligence

829
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: or to your sense of self or your creativity or whatever,

830
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: even though of course it isn't. But because the appearance

831
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: of drag is so um crucial to to its success.

832
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: And and so we're watching, we're watching women, and even

833
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: when we say like, oh, she's so fishy, or she

834
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: she passes, or you know whatever, we say, it's not

835
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: it's passes as a woman on the street. It passes

836
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: as a supermodel of the world. And so it's it's like,

837
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a love of Yeah, the celebration is

838
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: a love of what womanhood could be. Like I watch

839
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: I watched Drag Queens on the Runway, and I just

840
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: see a type of pride that I like, I feel proud.

841
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I mean, it's it's hard, like

842
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: I think that there is um when when I know what,

843
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: I know where the thought is coming from. Of like, well,

844
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: it makes because it does make fun of elements of femininity.

845
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: But I think that those elements that are being ridiculed

846
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: are the things that it's holding up A mirror. It's

847
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: not the things that women make fun of them themselves.

848
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: It's it's it's taking possession of what society deems as

849
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: being like something humorous or low about being a woman. Instinct,

850
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: my instinct. I think that was extremely well said. And

851
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: my instinct when I heard this was to of course

852
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: defend the show and defend the queens and defend Roue

853
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: paul Um because I truly feel like it's a celebration. Yeah,

854
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: I really do. I feel like it's I really feel

855
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: like it's um born out of admiration and celebration. And

856
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: to hear that someone could be offended by it, like

857
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: really like send something off on me, I was like,

858
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: oh no, God, well, because the other thing is um.

859
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: Drag Race is so unique because it literally launches careers,

860
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: and so there's also a certain desperation and ambition that

861
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: you see in the show that you definitely see another

862
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: in other reality shows, but it's not as authentic because

863
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: the it's just when you want to win American Idol,

864
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: it's for the chance to become a star. When you

865
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: want to win RuPaul's Drag Race, it is to become

866
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: a start to become the biggest thing in your industry. Yeah,

867
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean you really, you you walk even if you

868
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: don't win. I mean, yeah, you can come in seventh

869
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: and you can walk away being like I never have

870
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: to have a day job again. I mean, can you imagine.

871
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm honestly, it's it's crazy. I mean, and that's like,

872
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: that's like the mastermind, right, And you know he says like,

873
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: you know this last season being like, you know, the

874
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: hundred queen walking in with Derek Barry and be him

875
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: being like, you know this it's launched the careers of

876
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: a hundred queens, you know. And then like also by association,

877
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: like they're close friends, you know. I think like Thorgies

878
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: success is her cruise success in a way, it's like

879
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: Ruby success. Yeah, I would be interested in how they

880
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: feel about it, but you know, it's it's definitely turns

881
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: the heads in all the directions. Like I say about everything,

882
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, Frank Frank um garcia Hell just posted something

883
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: like this is gonna be then at the time of

884
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: year where a lot of our contemporaries get pretty cool

885
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: jobs and let's be happy for them. And I agree,

886
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: like a rising tide lifts all shift. But I yeah,

887
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: and I think like um, that's with with the Queens too,

888
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: and also drag in general. RuPaul is nominated for an Emmy.

889
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god. You look at the content. You look

890
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: at the content and competition like, come on, I mean anyway,

891
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: you watch one episode and you're like, what okay, wait, okay,

892
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: So so this season, Yes, let's talk about the season.

893
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: Uh do you think? I mean? I I have a

894
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: question for you guys, because listeners, we have not been

895
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: able to talk on So this is this is for

896
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: us and for okay, do you guys think that that okay?

897
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: For for people who don't watch the show. Typically, the

898
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: way that the elimination works in a normal season is

899
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: at the bottom two lip sync for their life and

900
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: that the person who then loses, according RuPaul, chooses the

901
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: winner and the loser, and the loser goes home. In

902
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: this season of All Stars, the top two lip sync

903
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: for their legacy. The person who wins chooses who the

904
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: bottom two gets to go home. Do you think that

905
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: the agony and the and the emotion that the queens

906
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: are feeling is what they thought was going to happen

907
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: or did you think that it was going to be

908
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: more that producers thought it was going to be more

909
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: of like a fun caddy thing with drama. But everyone's

910
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: going to be like, well, bitch, we're here to win,

911
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: so this is the way it is. I think that

912
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: it depends on the contestant. And I think that, for example,

913
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 1: Alyssa Edwards, Queens Queen honestly my favorite, I don't know

914
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: that she will deserve to win in the end. I

915
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: think it's very tough to debate against Alaska. I think

916
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: Alaska is maybe one one of the best drug queens

917
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: ever of all time. I love her, I mean, but

918
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: I think that Alyssa Edwards being so kind of not

919
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: anguished about this whole thing means that she gets it,

920
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think, of course

921
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: the producers want there to be agony and drama. That's

922
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: why they sprung on them at the last second. Yeah,

923
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: but those first two episodes, they were hard to were tough,

924
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: and and we had known before that spoiled we had

925
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: we hadn't spoiled. We knew from some intel that this

926
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: was going to be the elimination process. In my mind,

927
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: it was going to be a lot more lightheart like. Yes,

928
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: like you know, because because in a normal season where

929
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: they're not all such close friends. It would be like,

930
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: thank God, I finally have the opportunity send Derek home. Yeah,

931
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: but now it's tough because the relationships. But I also

932
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: think ginger men who just got eliminated by Alyssa does it.

933
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: Her career doesn't hurt for not going on more weeks

934
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: on the show. You know what, No, I don't think so.

935
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't think any of their careers are affected by it. Yeah.

936
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: I think these are all working queens at the height

937
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: of their fields. I think Coco Montrees will have the

938
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: same or not better career. Do you think that the

939
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: tweets between Coco and Roxy, what do you think about that?

940
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: I think there it's probably it probably feels authentic. Coco

941
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: is probably really mad, or if they're just if this

942
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: is like a setup later and it's like, do you

943
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: actually really have those harsh feelings towards Roxy a year later?

944
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: I think we have to remember that it's drag and

945
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: I think some of them get it and some of

946
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: them don't. And I think some of them are playing

947
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: into it, or I think I think all of this

948
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: is being exhumed for Coco because of the social media reaction.

949
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: They're like, Wow, cocoa Roxy really sucked you over. Follow

950
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: up question that I mean, like I was thinking about

951
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: this day. Do you think that the bit about Fifi

952
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: getting death threats was added into the episode after Fifi

953
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: got can't it seems to on this and this is

954
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: like something that I'm thinking about. So for those of

955
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: you who may not be familiar with it, there's a

956
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: character to call them characters could have to they make

957
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: them into on the show. There's a contestant on the show,

958
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: um on All Stars to Fifi O'Hara, who was on

959
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: season four of Rupol's Drag Race and really has the

960
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: truly the villain persona. She's the villain of the series,

961
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She was the most knowing,

962
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: vicious contestant in serious history. She was she was a bully.

963
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: She was mean, and she was intolerant, she was selfish,

964
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: She's talk it was horrible. And she's back on the

965
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: show and she was twenty and she was twenty five

966
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: at the time, you know what I mean. Definitely not

967
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: to say that you can't be going through diff I mean,

968
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: a door is twenty five now. So the thing is

969
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: she's come on the All Stars too, and it's been

970
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: pretty clear for her redemption, and she wants to re

971
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: establish her legacy as someone who wasn't mean, as someone

972
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: who wasn't manipulative, as as as a transformed queen, because

973
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: the main conflict was that she thought that, I mean

974
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of similar to Roxy. She thought that that pageant

975
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: pageant queens were true drag queens, that everyone else was

976
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: a hack. Roxy thought that comedy queens were a hack,

977
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: and and Sharon, a spooky queen, was a hack. But

978
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: FIEFI called Sharon Needles go back to party, and that

979
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: was the highest like, you're a cheap ass joke. But

980
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: if you rewatch that fight, that is not the meanest thing.

981
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: She says, No, no, no, no, that's to oh but

982
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: no no, But even that, even that fight where she's

983
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: yelling at Sharon, I rewatched that fight and go back

984
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: to party, say where you belong is like the line,

985
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: but that the whole thing is like kind of worse

986
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: than that, because because Sharon goes to her, Sharon goes

987
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: to her and she's like, well, okay, so I guess

988
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: we'll say it's the meanest thing that Pope says. She goes,

989
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: you're not my sister. Yeah, that I think that's like

990
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: kind of brutal, like because Sharon says, I just wanted

991
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: to tell you because you're like, I can do like

992
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: a sister, and she was, you're not my sister, which

993
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: is like hard and so basically, can you imagine someone

994
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: saying that an All Stars to It's I mean, it's

995
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: it's unthinkable. So basically what's going on in All Stars

996
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: Too is she's come on and she's like, look, that

997
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: wasn't me. I've grown up a lot now. I said

998
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: all those things, but I've changed and now and my

999
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: style of drag has changed. I'm actually more like Sharon

1000
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: now than Sharon is. And now she's now become a

1001
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: more creative our cosplay play, which, for example, Cosplicy Queen

1002
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: is not equal cutting edge. Okay, keep going, so honey,

1003
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: she however, has been edited into a sort of villain

1004
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: edit again, and you think that someone with experience on

1005
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: a reality show who knows should know what not to

1006
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: do to get this edit, just wouldn't give him a

1007
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: sound bite. But she's a fully come for beloved queen.

1008
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,959
Speaker 1: Alyssa Edwards saying she's not that funny is too much

1009
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: and like is distracting and just like keep coming for her,

1010
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, so, what's the deal here? So I mean,

1011
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: so Ififie went on her Twitter last week and she said,

1012
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm watching this episode at the same time you guys

1013
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: you are, I'm devastated. I no idea who was going

1014
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: to be getting this villain edit again. The editors have

1015
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: screwed me over, the producers have screwed me over. I'm

1016
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: getting death threats all over again. This is a nightmare.

1017
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: And other queens came to her defense and we're like,

1018
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: she was not that bad or what etcetera, etcetera, And

1019
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: and those of us on our Facebook group where we

1020
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: discuss and ruminate on ruminate on the episodes, we were

1021
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: saying like, do we think it's a do we think

1022
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: it's producer driven? Do we think it's f FE driven?

1023
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: And I had said, I will totally believe that in

1024
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: this particular episode she got a villain edit even though

1025
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: she didn't do anything wrong. But I do not think

1026
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 1: that the producers would set her up with a villain

1027
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: edit if she did not have material to deliver down

1028
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: the line. And even in this episode, before last episode,

1029
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: there was nothing that she said that was unsavory, like

1030
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: um in her in her talking head confessionals, it was

1031
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: just it was like this perceived kind of like back Alley,

1032
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, kind of mind games that she was playing.

1033
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: But in this past week's episode, she had some talking

1034
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: heads to the camera where she was being talking about

1035
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: a list and it's like, okay, so so first of all,

1036
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: I know that there's a big fight coming because it

1037
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: is being it is being built up like there's a

1038
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: big fight. But I mean, like you said those that

1039
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: to producers, if you don't think it's going to be including,

1040
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: you can't say that it's an edit if it's what

1041
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: you were saying to produce it. To answer your question

1042
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: about whether or not heard that whole segment, that whole

1043
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: package about her getting death threats for a full year

1044
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: was authentic, Like it seems to have worked into the

1045
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: workroom scenes where Detox and people are sort of apologized.

1046
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: I think so too. I just have I just have

1047
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: a gut feeling that producers added that part into the

1048
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: episode before it aired this week after last week, like

1049
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: they shot pickups no, like I think they had that

1050
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: footage and then they were like, let's add in some

1051
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: stuff about that, because because I am I feel like

1052
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: last week, the blowback to Fifi was so brutal. There's

1053
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: a part of me that thinks that producers were like,

1054
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: oh no, no, we don't want her getting death threats anymore,

1055
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: and like added in like a little bit of a

1056
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 1: SOB story because Matt was pointing out how FIEFI had

1057
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: this whole section with what were you saying? I was

1058
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: just saying, the edit of the show is confusing this week,

1059
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 1: Its like maybe the show is confusing us a little

1060
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: bit on purpose. So I think that for the whole

1061
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: first half of the episode, you can't get around the

1062
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: fact that literally in the in the opening, when they

1063
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 1: all come back into the workroom and they're getting changed

1064
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: out of their outfits from the from the runway for

1065
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: the last night, Fefe immediately and goes off on Alyssa.

1066
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: It's recurring throughout the episode. She says something to Alyssa

1067
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: while they're rehearsing. They have a whole section of Ginger

1068
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: Mine assessing Fife's behavior where she's like, Fifi is acting

1069
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: manipulative and I think I actually she came on the

1070
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: show to do this, blah blah blah. I loved that

1071
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: part from gender Ginger was Ginger was great in that

1072
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,479
Speaker 1: episode where because also she started off and she's gender.

1073
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: She goes, I love Fifi, you know what's true, and

1074
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: she was like, but yeah, that was a great moment

1075
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: like that, Os was yeah, it's I mean, also, the

1076
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: show is so knowing about the edit now, like cutting

1077
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: to the producers, like about the sound bites about coming

1078
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: back into the workroom. Like the show is so knowing

1079
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: about its it knows what it's doing. So then especially

1080
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: for something like All Stars, it's like, you know, it's

1081
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: us watching the show. It's not first time to yours.

1082
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: For the first half of the whole episode, it was

1083
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: Fifie this way. And then to have that segment in

1084
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: there about how Fifi is getting death threats and have

1085
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: that talking head of respected Queen Alaska saying shut the

1086
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: funk up to everyone was like hater. Basically like, I'm

1087
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: just very interested to see what the end game is

1088
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: with Fife with this season because they are giving us

1089
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: two different Maybe it is producers during damage control, That's

1090
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. That was my theory. It seemed so

1091
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: out of place that I was just like they they

1092
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: had this footage and I'm sure they just were like

1093
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: we we are moving forward with our storyline brand the season,

1094
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: but we but it out, but we gotta we gotta

1095
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: take out a couple minutes of you know, because there

1096
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: was no video. Here's another thing, there's no video from

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01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: Meal at the beginning of the episode where um she

1098
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: just came in. There was no mini challenge. So I

1099
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: mean there was a part of me that was like,

1100
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: this was added in. It's just it seems I mean,

1101
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: it's a it's a conspiracy theory, but but it is.

1102
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: It is my conspiracy theory that it was added in

1103
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: as reaction to last week where Fifi bad mouth producers

1104
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: for saying that they were giving her a villain edit needlessly,

1105
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: which is you know, honestly, I mean, there was there

1106
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: was a part in this episode where um she she

1107
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: says something to a lista about her. So okay, So

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01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: the part where they're sitting in the chairs and she's

1109
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: talking about address the dress, that part was like, Fifi,

1110
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: shut the funk up. But the part where they're just

1111
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: kind of kidding a round on the stage and she

1112
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: said something and she's like, how is how is my

1113
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: how is that really good? I mean like both of

1114
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: them cracked up at that. I don't think that that

1115
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: was like that seemed like no, I would saying rehearsal

1116
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, like it's it's a joke.

1117
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: Who's the fiefie there, I'm the thief. Who do you

1118
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: think you're your most spiritually aligned with? Yeah? I would

1119
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: do her for snatch came if I had a chance.

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01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm a Katia. You are Katia. I'm okay, we're talking

1121
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: about all time, all time. I think I think I

1122
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: tried to confide with in this season just because it's

1123
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: otherwise it's too broad. Um, I want to say this

1124
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: is it's crazy if I see Alaska, but that's not

1125
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: even I would say Katia too because I'm because it's

1126
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: because I because when she said I finally feel like

1127
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: a star, Oh my god, I know it's like, wait,

1128
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't fully relate to that

1129
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: in this in some way, but like that is so

1130
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: that's so cool. I mean, she is amazing, I think,

1131
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: And and you know what sucks is We're going to

1132
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: watch the next episode and the narrative is going to be, well,

1133
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: Alyssa just broke the rules that we created and since

1134
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: but the only people who care about the rules are

1135
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: people who I don't want on the in the show

1136
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: anymore anyway, and Roxy, Yeah, I'm not a huge Detox

1137
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: can but I knew you guys. I think a lot

1138
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: about Detox. I think Detox wants to win very badly.

1139
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 1: I know. I just think that Detox is strength are

1140
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: only going to be on the runway. I think Detox

1141
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: is a good lip sync or and performer. But I

1142
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: said this on The Threat today. It's interesting to watch

1143
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: the lip sync between Detox and Alyssa this week because

1144
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: you just don't watch Detox. You can't compete with Take

1145
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: your eyes off Alissa Edwards. She does the most interesting

1146
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: things and funny. She's just you're not able to look

1147
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: away from her. And also it's not even just her performance,

1148
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: it's the way she does her makeup. It's the way

1149
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: she looks. Her eyes explode off the stage. I think

1150
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: she's an underrated queen in terms of her looks. I

1151
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,959
Speaker 1: will say that Melissa, I mean she's got a distinct

1152
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: look that is Alissa Edwards. Like something about the way

1153
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: she does her eyes, like you just know it's her.

1154
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: It's like when you turn on the radio when you

1155
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 1: know it's um Rihanna, You know what I mean, There's

1156
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: just something, right, Riana. What I'm saying is it's like

1157
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: it's distinct. It's not just good, it's also distinct, like

1158
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 1: Rox Andrews is good, But is it distinct? Is something

1159
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: where people are there's something to be said, And I

1160
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: think Alaska is representing this so well. Alaska used to

1161
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: have a distinct signature look like the high hair, the beat, whatever,

1162
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: But this season she's shown, Oh my god, that's sleep

1163
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: from last week, I gaged that was the season for

1164
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: me so far. Was Alaska the latex look. Somebody said

1165
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: it's what Taylor Swift wish she looked like at the

1166
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: met Ball, and I was like, that's literally it, that's true.

1167
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,479
Speaker 1: I did Taylor stuffs look at the met Ball. Yeah,

1168
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: but it's where she first started dancing with Tom Hilson.

1169
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: If you believe what the people want you to, I

1170
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: literally have art. I've got so many. If you think

1171
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: that Taylor Swift actually had jury duty, you are mistaken, honey, No, no, no,

1172
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: I just I just that is not okay. The day

1173
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: after the v m as, when she wasn't there, we're

1174
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: suddenly the story comes out, Oh I had jury duty.

1175
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: Oh Taylor swifts of the people she goes to jury,

1176
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: she took a picture with my mom. I just don't

1177
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: believe anything about her is authentic. Okay, I don't know.

1178
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: I feel bad, but it's just like I feel bad.

1179
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, Mike, don't feel bad. The thing is,

1180
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: she's had such a weird arc and like we fall

1181
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: in love with her, we hate her, we fall back

1182
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: in love, we hate her again. I mean, she's now

1183
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: gotten to the place where she's too far Yeah, she's

1184
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: just too far away. And like, I will always enjoy

1185
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: her music. I'm sure I like her music. I love

1186
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: what she does for her fans. I do not care

1187
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: about who she dates and how many. That is her prerogative.

1188
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: You go, girl, shut that said. I heart ts to

1189
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: the beach but not Okay, but he was paid to

1190
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: wear it, honey, But what's the function, like why it

1191
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: can only help his career? It's literally to lie to

1192
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: everyone though it's it's it's like, it's like so people

1193
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: in Middle America, they believe it, and that to me

1194
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: is manipulative, and that that that makes her no better

1195
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: than field for a little bit she she is. She

1196
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: has posted like four things on Instagram since the since

1197
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: since the video, and they're all birthday posts for friends,

1198
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: happy birthdays, And he literally said, Kanye West on the thing,

1199
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm like this close to overexposure. She's aware of it.

1200
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: I hated. Oh that video is so great because she

1201
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: sounds so fucking fake on it, the videos, videos for genius.

1202
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: I just love anything. I'm a little bit like, let's

1203
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: burn the world about the whole thing where I just wanted.

1204
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: I want to know. I want every gay celebrity to

1205
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: come out. I want everything revealed. I just want this.

1206
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: I just don't don't think it's good to everyone have

1207
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: all the lies. I don't think it's good for people

1208
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: that are good. It's it's not. And I have to

1209
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: say I love the draw know it really isn't. I mean,

1210
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: I love the drama. I love I love the conspiracies.

1211
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 1: I do believe the conspiracies. But it's on. It's so

1212
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: it's so easy to not like her, in my opinion,

1213
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 1: not because not because of the collection of the friends

1214
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 1: or any of that stuff. It's because she is so

1215
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 1: protect Like to me, she seems invincible, Like what could

1216
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: she possibly do that would alienate her fan base? She

1217
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: already has six like mansions, like what could she possibly do?

1218
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,560
Speaker 1: And yet she won't say black lives matter, or she

1219
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: won't call herself a feminist, or she won't you know,

1220
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: like she wants for Hillary Clinton. So it's like all

1221
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: of these things that come from this place of like

1222
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: fear and protection of her image. It's so boring to me.

1223
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, next, Like she's writing her songs like okay,

1224
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: like get Mattmern or whatever the fun his name is

1225
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: on like some other songs, and for Brittany and we'll

1226
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: be fine, yeah, I mean, or something whatever. Hearing like

1227
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: the t about her from people that actually work like

1228
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: adjacent to her, Like it's pretty revealing. I mean, she's

1229
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: so like I can't stress enough. Like she's so good

1230
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: to her fans, and she's such a good role model

1231
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: for girls in a lot of in a lot of ways,

1232
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: like she is the face of her own company, that

1233
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: is herself. She plays an instrument, she is going to

1234
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: control of her life. She smarts, she doesn't apologize for

1235
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: who she dates. I mean, like I do think that

1236
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: those things are good. And she is in contact with

1237
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 1: her fans. She's very human. She clearly is grateful for

1238
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: the career she has, like she's not an evil person,

1239
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: but I just like, I don't know, what does you

1240
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: think about the Lena Dunham Amy Schumer um that interview sucks.

1241
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 1: I get money letter and I love it and I

1242
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: got and I got it in the morning and I

1243
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: was still in bed and I just was like, this

1244
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: is awful, shooting victims thing like just I mean, like

1245
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: the whole I mean, everything got It's just it was

1246
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: all of it was Badah. I think it's just a

1247
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: case of like I don't think that they're evil by

1248
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: any means. I don't think I don't even think that

1249
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: they're racist by any means, Like knowingly, I think that

1250
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: they're super privileged. And I think it's a case of

1251
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: two super privileged rich people. I just think and like

1252
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: talking to each other and then hit and published because

1253
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: they feel like they can. I was gonna say, like,

1254
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, you think you want to be on a

1255
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: fly on the wall, feel like the kind of you

1256
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: kind of don't. And it's it's a lot. But Amy

1257
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: Schumer is like so from Long Island. It's just when

1258
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: she she played a character when she on SNL where

1259
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: she was like somebody took it the bachelorette party and

1260
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: basically Cecily, it's like Cecily's bachelot party and they're all friends,

1261
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 1: and then it's like her one friend from like the bar, Amy,

1262
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: sheone plays like the bartender from the bar she frequents.

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: And then um, the press goes missing and Amy was like, okay,

1264
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 1: so somebody took it, and like she something she like

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01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: is that person on some level? Um, Sirens, I think

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01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: that's actually a sign that we should wrap our conversation

1267
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: on RuPaul's jag race all starts to with this, So

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01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 1: how do you see the rest of the season playing

1269
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: like map out what you think the rest of the

1270
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: season's gonna look like, Nicole the We're now down to six. Yeah,

1271
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: we're down to six, and I want let's let's give

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01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: a quick recap. We got Alaska the front runner, who

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01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: is you know, incredible entertainer who can do things on

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01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: stage that no one else can. Content. It's a fan

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01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:05,520
Speaker 1: favorite wild card, I would say, much much improved, new confidence,

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01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: really big time fan favorite. G talx um, you know,

1277
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: kind of unparalleled like scene look queen like new drag

1278
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: like well known drag queens. Yeah, then we've got Roxy

1279
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: Andrews reformed quote unquote bully, runaway Queen of I think

1280
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: she's trying, definitely putting in her effort um she I

1281
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: think she just I think she's just really good at

1282
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: being mean. She's a natural bully, and she's just working

1283
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: really hard to just, you know, not indulge that because

1284
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: it's a high stress situation. I think she's doing a

1285
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: good job. And then we've got villainess Um new cosplay

1286
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: artistic queen, former pageant villain of season four, and we

1287
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: spoke about at length earlier, how do we see this going? Okay?

1288
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: I think this coming week is going to be a

1289
01:12:54,960 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: pairs challenge Top six Classic TOPSI challenge where people are

1290
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: paired up and it's going to be Okay, well who

1291
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: do we Okay? So I think it's going to be Roxy.

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01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it's either going to be I think it's gonna

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01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: be Fifi Alyssa because like that we're being set up

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01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: for that. And then I think it's gonna be I mean,

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01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: I would hope it would be Alaska Cottia because that

1296
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: would be so fun. But I think it's going to

1297
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: be like Cottia Roxy and Detox Alaska something like that,

1298
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: or would be interesting if they paired detox and roxy together,

1299
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: is like the two remaining remembers, like the what is

1300
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: it now like now that Alaska is out of it?

1301
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 1: Like the two for Alaska Talks. Yeah, but now that

1302
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: Alaska is not in Alaska Talk anymore? So what is

1303
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: it about road talx roadtox Yeah? Also like sidebar for

1304
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: I roll for Alaska Talks. Yeah, um, because it was bullying. Okay,

1305
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: So paired challenge. I think paired challenge next week another

1306
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: typical um elimination. I think the fall in week is

1307
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 1: going to be when they bring all five queens back,

1308
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be half and half, I think someone oh

1309
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: probably Yeah, then I guess the doors before and for

1310
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: in five probably excuse one of the five from like

1311
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: whatever brawl it is. I mean, I think that they're

1312
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 1: going to do something where like the there's gonna be

1313
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: like a mini competition just between the eliminated queens and

1314
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: whoever wins gets to like replace the person of their

1315
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: choosing or maybe the person who eliminated them potentially, And

1316
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 1: then I think that's what I think. Yeah, I mean,

1317
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: I think that's there's definitely I mean, but who knows

1318
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: this This season is truly, it's the architect of the season.

1319
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: We can't we can never hope to. But I guess

1320
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, you know, you don't know who

1321
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 1: who's going to make crazy decisions. I would hope that

1322
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: the top three would be Alissa, Katia, and Alaska that

1323
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: want but you just don't know because none of it

1324
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 1: has made because that's truly up to them. It seems

1325
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: like it's not up to the producers, and any top

1326
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: three in the last couple of seasons of the actual

1327
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: show have been there's been a wild card that stuck

1328
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: its way in there. And I think the fact that

1329
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: the producers are being so kind of willy and nilly

1330
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: with Who Goes Home means that the eliminated Queens must

1331
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 1: come back in a big way. I think there's part

1332
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: of me that also thinks like there might just be

1333
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: an entire episode that's just eliminated Queens because we have

1334
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 1: this whole vacancy from a door leaving like um but

1335
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: but then prepared for that though I have no idea.

1336
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: But but it's like, I mean, Rhu just she does

1337
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: what she will do. But I think one other thing

1338
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: that that I've been thinking about UM obviously Alaska is

1339
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: the one to be. She's a revolutionary queen, but I

1340
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind her going home because she's so far ahead

1341
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: of everyone else. Like, if you know, if we're talking

1342
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: about like Alaska and Asa and Katia, who of those

1343
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: three we would rather replace with a wild card? I

1344
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: would say I would want Alaska to be replaced just

1345
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: because to be more fun to watch, and I would

1346
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: I would rather see Katya and Alyssa get to fight

1347
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: for the crown then Alaska. Alaska really could have won

1348
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: her season, like in a lot of ways she did,

1349
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: Like she wasn't the official winner, but she did win

1350
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: her season. Yeah, absolutely, and it was I think Jinx's

1351
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: win was cool, Like I liked Jinks, but I think

1352
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: that Alaska. It's weird watching the show because it feels

1353
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: like Alaska one. Yeah alright, Matt, Matt wins. What's your

1354
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: outline fort show? I just I think there's been so

1355
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: much focus on Fifi that I just think there has

1356
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 1: to be something to do with her. Sometimes what they

1357
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: do on the show is they'll focus on a queen

1358
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: a lot because their time is up. Yeah. Um, so

1359
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised to see Fifi go Home next week,

1360
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 1: and I also would make the top fucking three. I mean,

1361
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 1: the thing is, in my opinion, in season four, Fifi

1362
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: stayed way longer than she should have been. I was

1363
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: shocked that she made the top three. So to me,

1364
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: like she beat Latrice Royale, I mean, I can't. But

1365
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: what the thing is, what if you do watch that

1366
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 1: season you watched the season six lip sync and it's

1367
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: Sharon and Fifi's doing It's raining Men. Fifi had tanked

1368
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: the challenge for them, then they say they do It's

1369
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: raining Men, and Sharon kills her. I mean, Fifi does,

1370
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: like her fucking wig comes off and they they disqualified

1371
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: William So, which was like the stroke of luck for Fifi.

1372
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,879
Speaker 1: But Fifi, Yeah, I do think, though, when I'm rewatching

1373
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:53,879
Speaker 1: season four now because I really needed to final Fifie,

1374
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: some of the drags she does towards the end of

1375
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: season four is better than a lot of what she's

1376
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: done in All Stars to I mean her, she should

1377
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: have on a think on Home the first week with

1378
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 1: that horrible performance, her horrible performance, but then that body

1379
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 1: suit wins heamous, I mean, then she comes out with

1380
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,560
Speaker 1: that rubber duck bullshit. Okay, so now like, I do

1381
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: think we'll have a top three. I I hope that

1382
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: they'll give us Alaska, Alyssa, and Katia. However, I do

1383
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: have a slight of I just can't see Alyssa winning

1384
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: despite what I really want, and I have an aversion

1385
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: to Katio winning for some reason. I just feel like

1386
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: if Alaska doesn't win, we'll look on it and be like, well,

1387
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: we all really know that Alaska was the best. But

1388
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: the thing is, like, what would I want to happen?

1389
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: I would want to listen to Edwards to win All

1390
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: Stars too, But I also think there's something to the

1391
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 1: fact of like she doesn't win and she's like, all right,

1392
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: I'll still do my thing. What about you? My only thing?

1393
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: And the only thing that also they'll add to this

1394
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: just because we're going on time is um I think

1395
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: I think we're getting a chantay boat stay or something

1396
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: because because it's six laugh and that what we have

1397
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and even the criticism this week, we're like,

1398
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 1: there's very little to say and and there's the sixth laft.

1399
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: There's only three more episodes until we get a top three,

1400
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: Like wait a minute, there's there needs to be more.

1401
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: We can't just have a six episode season. I think

1402
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: I think the series order for this was the season

1403
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: order was like eight episodes or something, so we'll see. Well,

1404
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: we do have whatever is coming with the eliminated queen. Yes, well,

1405
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: what's the preview for next week? Did you? Yeah? It

1406
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: was everybody, all the queens like just attacking a Lissa

1407
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 1: for sort of switching the strategy. They also haven't had

1408
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: a sewing challenge yet this season, and yeah, they didn't

1409
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: go into the challenge for whatever, so basically it was

1410
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 1: entirely focused on them turning on Melissa. Yeah, it's it's

1411
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 1: like it's a shot I'm remembering now. It's like a

1412
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: shot of Fifi and Detox and and Roxy all be liked. Well,

1413
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: Alyssa changed flipped the script or whatever. So anyway, I

1414
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: hate that because honestly, who the fuck if Alyssa had

1415
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: eliminated Cott, Uh, that would have been insane, incorrect, incorrect choice.

1416
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: And I think I think she's totally in the right

1417
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: saying that. Yeah, and also like they didn't look on

1418
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: the back line like they were all that shocked. I mean,

1419
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: Ginger gives her exit line and then all crack up,

1420
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: and it seems like they're all fine, Yeah, I just

1421
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 1: don't want to deal. I don't want to deal with

1422
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: them coming for a lesson about this. Well, it's drama, honey.

1423
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: Let's move on to I don't think so honey, center

1424
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: piece of our podcast here at Lost Culture says, I

1425
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. We have sixty seconds to rail

1426
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: against something in culture. But when and I famously do

1427
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: not prepare for this, and then I have something prepared,

1428
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 1: You have something prepared. I'm actually going to do a

1429
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: call back with mine, so, um, do you mind getting

1430
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 1: you make any time? I'm gonna get the time already.

1431
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: And we've had some amazing I don't think so honeys

1432
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: in the pass, we've had a high bar. Do you

1433
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: are you prepared? I have not prepared something. But that's

1434
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: what makes Nicole a great improviser see her on the nightmare.

1435
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: And that's what makes this a great segment, is that

1436
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 1: people don't come prepared. Okay, let's go all right, here

1437
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 1: we go. I don't think so, honey, and the sixty

1438
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: seconds begins now. I don't think so many people who

1439
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast and don't play it at one

1440
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: point five speed, Mama, I don't think so honey, if

1441
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: you expect to sit through this podcast and finish this

1442
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: episode listening to us at normal speed. I cannot stand

1443
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: the speed that normal humans talk at, and I would

1444
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,440
Speaker 1: rather die than listen to a podcast of recorded dialogue

1445
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: where it's not spoken at one point five speed. Guys,

1446
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: try this out, just just just hear me out. I

1447
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Play any podcasts, play any YouTube video.

1448
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: This has gone on to YouTube videos for me. I

1449
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: refused to watch a YouTube video without playing at one

1450
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: point five speed because I do not have enough time

1451
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: in my day to listen to someone speak at regular speed. Mama,

1452
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Try this out. Listen to

1453
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: this podcast at one point five speed. We all sound

1454
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: so much better, so much smarter, so much wittier than

1455
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: we would if we if we spoke at just one

1456
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: uh one one time speed. Okay, try it out two times.

1457
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: Two times speed is too much. One point five is

1458
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: just that perfect middle ground. I'm like Goldilocks, bitch, this

1459
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,600
Speaker 1: is speed. I don't think so, honey. Listened to this

1460
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: podcast at one points that's one minute? Oh I ran

1461
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: in a steam there, but my drove Okay, here we go, Matt, Rodgers.

1462
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't

1463
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: think so, honey. The face of sensationalism, bo and Yang.

1464
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: Here he comes riding through. I don't think so, honey.

1465
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: On my podcast to honestly asserting that you should listen

1466
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 1: to it at an unnatural pace. This is insane. We

1467
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts to connect. We listen to podcasts to

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01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: hear a human voice, not a human voice pitched up. Honey,

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01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Listen. I don't want to

1470
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: say you shake your head. I don't think so. You

1471
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: and this millennial culture, this comment culture coming in here,

1472
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: needing to rip apart what's natural. And you know that.

1473
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think so, honey. Bow and Yang, Bowen Yan.

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01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna see him in thirty years. He's gonna have

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01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: a new face. He's gonna be plastic surgery. We're gonna

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01:22:58,360 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: go out to l A and Bowen Yang is going

1477
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: to prescribe, is going to prescribe to what all? He's

1478
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: gonna change himself. I don't need anyone to change my voice.

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01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: My voice is high enough and fast enough. If I

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01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: said something, you can tell I sat at the pace

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01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to say. It's I'm gonna say slowly. I

1482
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Don't you dare listen to this

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01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: any faster than it should have? And that's one minute, Matt.

1484
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,799
Speaker 1: Let's say something clarifying, bitch. Oh yeah, by all means

1485
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: be your own pr one point five times. Speed does

1486
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: not mean you pitch up. There's nothing to do with

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01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: pitch Mama, don't get it twisted perfect, that's what I mind. Listen.

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01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry you had to see that. Mommy, daddy,

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01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 1: Please don't fight. I'm the daddy. I'm the daddy. I'm

1490
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 1: the mam. Alright, so stupid. Alright, Nicole, it's time. This

1491
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: is it. It's this is your legacy. This is they

1492
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: have to think about it like that, all about legacy.

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01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: This is Nicole's. I can see. I don't think starts

1494
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think so, honey. You you shown

1495
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 1: me in the movie Joy on an airplane? No the

1496
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: fuck way, I don't think so, honey. An airplane is

1497
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: a fucking prison. I can't leave. There's a screen in

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01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 1: front of me. I can't tear my eyes away. Well,

1499
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: you want me to gouge my eyes on a plane?

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01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: Give me a spoon, Honey, I'll try. The movie Joy

1501
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: is a fucking phantasmagoria indulgence by whoever the funk came

1502
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: up with the idea. It has no plot, it has

1503
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 1: no talent. I don't think so, honey. You want to

1504
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: tell me that Jennifer Lawrence is supposed to play more

1505
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: than one age and we're supposed to feel bad for her. Honey,

1506
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence has the most terrible life in that movie,

1507
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: and you know how it ends, she gets a more

1508
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 1: terrible life. I don't care about that, mop. Why is

1509
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: that movie three hours long? Why is it from the

1510
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: three different styles? It's I'm on an airplane, bitch, don't

1511
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: do this to me. I don't think so, honey. I'd

1512
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: rather the plane go down with me and the president

1513
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 1: on it. Then we have to see one her frame

1514
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 1: of Joy the film one more time and Oscar not.

1515
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. One a minute. Let me

1516
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: tell you something. There was a problem in Hollywood, and

1517
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 1: it's Jennifer Lawrence playing age. I can't. She plays all ages.

1518
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: She plays your six year old niece, she plays her

1519
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: eighty year old dying grandmother of all times? Who are

1520
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: you kidding. I don't even think that David Russell came

1521
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: up with the story. It's like there was a script

1522
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 1: and David Russell got it and he was like, I

1523
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: love it, and then he was like, I'm rewriting it

1524
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: it that's right, this right. But her script got totally rewritten.

1525
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: She is not responsible for what we saw. But here's

1526
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: the thing. It is the worst movie I've ever seen

1527
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: any Before it came out, there was like Oscar talked

1528
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: about Jennifer Lawrence in the biblepic of a woman that

1529
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: came up with the miracle mop. I was like, fuck you,

1530
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: I am not seen that, and then I can't. She

1531
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 1: tried to watch her on the plane. Jennifer Lawrence wasn't

1532
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: terrible in it. She was. She was fine. She's the

1533
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: best she could. But god, that movie is fucking It's

1534
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: a scourge. It's I mean, look, this is David Russell

1535
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: is so hit or miss though. I mean he's also

1536
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: like a bad person miss and he's and the way

1537
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: he's talked to what's her name, no, not that's who

1538
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: it was disgusting. And he got into a fist fight

1539
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: with George George Claney. I can't even deal with I

1540
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: literally can't deal with anyone that says that one David masculinity, Yeah,

1541
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: that masculine. I mean no, no, I could put someone

1542
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: on blast right now. Let's just say I'm close to

1543
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 1: someone that called our neighbor the sea word, even if

1544
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 1: she was being difficult, and I was like, you can't

1545
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: do that. You have to tell me after her. Yes,

1546
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: we have a lot of names that we need to share.

1547
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 1: We've been a mutual friend. Mutual friend, that's money, all

1548
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: the tea, and literally it's no tea, it's all, it's all,

1549
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: it's no shade, it's all try. The only name we

1550
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: did say today was Jennie Stol God bless. I love her.

1551
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: I love her. This has been such an amazing episode.

1552
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: And can I tell you this is a reveal. The

1553
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 1: first time at Nicole Silverberg was we were in training

1554
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 1: for story Pirates and we were put in a story

1555
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: together for training. It was about I played a bully, yes,

1556
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:24,919
Speaker 1: and you played the bullies girl. And we hadn't spoken

1557
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: before that, and Nicole's character choice was to come out

1558
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: with a speech impediment. Remember, everyone was like that, that's

1559
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: very cool. They hired somebody with a speech impediment. Because

1560
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: you did such a good speech impedim And then later

1561
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 1: on we spoke and I was like, she doesn't have

1562
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,520
Speaker 1: a speech pedim at all. She just is a genius.

1563
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 1: That's what everything good. That's what everybody was speech impediment realness. Yeah,

1564
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm the bowies, go find We're going to make a

1565
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: whirlwind herricane in the hallway authetic. I remember, Oh my god,

1566
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: you remember the details. I remember there was stink bombs

1567
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 1: in it. Oh yeah, what do you tho played on

1568
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: a janitor. Yes, that was great. And so she's a

1569
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: maid it was in that as well. Yes, really insane.

1570
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: But this is it's just so funny. And literally I

1571
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 1: did not know that people thought that I had a

1572
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: speech in pediment. That gives me a great joy. Literally

1573
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: somebody was like, that's crazy. I guess Nicole really has

1574
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 1: a speech and peniman and I was like, you know,

1575
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: I guess. You know it's important hires diversity, diversity. We

1576
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: needed someone like you can't pronounce that ours um, and

1577
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: then you pronounced the ours wonderfully. Thanks stark Yard, guys,

1578
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: this has been Nicole Silverberg, thank you so much for

1579
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: being a guest host with Anna Dresen and potentially someone

1580
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: new now, Yeah, Rachel, thank you, we're taking over the podcast. Yeah,

1581
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: we have to get Rachel on um. This is Last

1582
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: culturesas tune in next time time. We're so excited and

1583
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: watch Ruphl's fucking drag race. Yes, love By. This has

1584
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: been a Forever Dog production executive produced by Joe Cilio,

1585
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,000
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