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Speaker 4: Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone on your Tucky Sports Radio. Monday, November the

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth. I'm Matt Jones on a cloudy, kind of

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Speaker 1: cool day. I'm in Louisville, Kentucky. Ryan and Drew are

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Speaker 1: in Lexington. Shannon's over there in that little studio box.

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Speaker 1: It is Thanksgiving weekend and I'm excited about it. Big weekend.

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Speaker 1: We got basketball, got football, we got the Kentucky volleyball

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Speaker 1: but it was it wasn't the best weekend of the

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Speaker 1: past one. You can give a shout eight five to

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Speaker 1: nine eighth twenty two eighty seven. That's the clarks Pubby

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Speaker 1: shop phone line. A Vision Auto glass text machine is

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Speaker 1: seven seven two seven four five two five four. This

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Speaker 1: stition sponsored by TJ. Smith Lo office. You called Tj'll

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Speaker 1: make them pay. I wonder what Diego Pavi's mom's doing

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Speaker 1: right now, Shannon.

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Speaker 3: Pu probably down on Broadway in Nashville kit rocks bar.

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Speaker 1: You don't know, we.

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Speaker 5: Haven't seen much of hers.

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Speaker 1: I just want to start with it, Like, we could

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Speaker 1: be all down and depressed today and we have to

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Speaker 1: talk about the disaster that was the game. But I

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Speaker 1: think there's some value Shannon in like and sort of

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Speaker 1: laughing to start the day, right, Sure, So we have

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Speaker 1: to talk for a second about Diego, About your quarterback's mother. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Diego Povey.

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Speaker 3: Paviy A's Mom's got it going on, Apparently, the cameraman thinks,

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Speaker 3: no doubt.

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Speaker 1: No, exactly, no exaggeration. In the history of sports, has

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Speaker 1: there ever been a parent that was shown more on

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Speaker 1: a game broadcast than his mom was on that one?

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Speaker 3: No, she was shown six times on one score. They

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Speaker 3: kept cutting away from the game to his mom, back

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Speaker 3: to the game, back to Pafia's mom.

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Speaker 1: Ryan, you've been watching for a long time. You worked

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Speaker 1: in TV for years. Can you ever remember anything like that?

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Speaker 5: You brought it up on the Postgame Show when Christian

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Speaker 5: Latner's mom was in that neck brace. That's the only

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Speaker 5: thing that comes anywhere close. And it still wasn't as

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Speaker 5: many times as they showed Diego, Pobby.

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Speaker 1: Even Donna Smith, No, not even close.

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Speaker 4: She would get maybe one time.

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Speaker 6: Drew, do you can you think of a time, no, no, no,

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Speaker 6: I thought forever my two were Donna Smith And if

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Speaker 6: you remember when Blake Griffin was awesome at Oklahoma, they

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Speaker 6: just had a camera on his parents all the time.

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Speaker 6: I thought those two were gonna help hold the crown forever.

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Speaker 6: But Poby's mom is a legend for how much they

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Speaker 6: showed her on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: And we and listen. First of all, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the good. It's nice rhyding that she's like celebrating her son, right,

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Speaker 5: Everybody Every parent should be like that. Yes, celebrating what they're.

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Speaker 1: Sobriding their son. That's nice. There's a family get together,

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Speaker 1: that's nice. But we do have to talk about the

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Speaker 1: rest of us, which I want all of us to

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Speaker 1: sit here and think of our mothers. For a second.

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Speaker 1: All right, Drew, you think of your mom, Ryan, your

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Speaker 1: mom shading your mom, I'll do my mom. What are

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Speaker 5: Zero zero?

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Speaker 1: I mean, for those of you that know my mom

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Speaker 1: because she caring wearing that, just think about it's my

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Speaker 3: Come on, sh is straight out of a Shaggy nineteen

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Speaker 1: Shack me Like you know you're you saying she was

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Speaker 4: Bostic, Yeah, like she was.

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Speaker 3: At what point she was like kissing some guy's hand,

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Speaker 5: I saw that.

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Speaker 4: That was weird.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, who is this guy who's getting his hand

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Speaker 3: kissed by Poppy's mom.

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Speaker 1: She walked out on the field first of all, his brother,

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Speaker 1: It was bizarre. But even with all that, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure they'll ever be a moment quite like Drew when

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Speaker 6: Oh incredible, incredible, absolutely incredible, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: She was, she was riding that thing, genuine pony.

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Speaker 6: She was playing in my head as she was riding it,

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Speaker 6: and I said to people with me, I was like,

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Speaker 6: thank god, this game isn't close, because if it went

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Speaker 6: to overtime, they would have to switch to HBO if

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Speaker 1: To show her, because each time they showed her it

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Speaker 5: They obviously had one camera dedicated to her, and.

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Speaker 1: She imagined that guy's job. By the way, they're like John,

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Speaker 5: A whole game. They stay on her.

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Speaker 4: There are gigs and sports.

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Speaker 1: And then like you're right, she got more and more

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Speaker 1: provocative and at that moment and like, I don't feel

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Speaker 1: bad talking about it, because she was like pointing at

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Speaker 1: the camera. She clearly was like camera, find me now.

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Speaker 1: Drew made a good point that after she saddled up

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Speaker 6: Do you think that was a call from the network

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Speaker 6: like Okay, things are getting we got we gotta slow down.

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Speaker 6: Mickey Mouse called in he broke the record, he got

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Speaker 6: his his moment where he walked off the field with

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Speaker 6: the final minutes, and they did not show her again

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Speaker 6: show during Now she was all over that rail.

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Speaker 1: I mean the rail video. I'm kind of shock, Shannon

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Speaker 1: that wasn't a bigger internet thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's good for ratings.

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Speaker 3: That tells me that she was probably doing something that

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Speaker 1: To go watch the video of her on the rail

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Speaker 1: and look behind her. Okay, if you haven't seen it yet,

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Speaker 1: look at the man who I believe is a Vandy

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Speaker 1: look of like I have the best job in sports.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, I was so bummed about the

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Speaker 1: game itself, but I just couldn't get over how much

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Speaker 1: they were showing her. And then there's Shannon, the theo

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Speaker 3: He's about to be Pavia's step dad, no doubt, because

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Speaker 1: See, I kind of always thought that was like kind

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Speaker 1: of a joke. I don't think I don't think it's

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Speaker 4: I think it is. Yeah, you wanted that date with it,

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Speaker 1: I just have to say, and again I'm not hating

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Speaker 1: do your thing, Diego, Pavi is mom. I mean this

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Speaker 1: is his like last moment in the spotlight, right, do

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Speaker 1: your thing. But the all I could sit there and

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Speaker 1: think about was like the difference in what my senior

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Speaker 1: day would have been with like mom and Larry and

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Speaker 1: them walking on the field versus Diego Pavi's senior day

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Speaker 1: his brother and theo Vonne Drew. It's just it's an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable thing. Like it just shows you how different humanity

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Speaker 1: can be. Yeah, that's the Pave experience. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: They have a locker room that's a tent. And then

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Speaker 1: fast forward they flipped a pavy a switch and he's

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Speaker 1: got He's sitting next to a parent grinding on a

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Speaker 1: I mean, just one the world for Vandy. That will

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Speaker 5: It's must see TV, which makes me think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: I think you might. He might. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. Now, as far as the game, that was bad,

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Speaker 1: he is terrible. Everything went poorly everything. The offense couldn't

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Speaker 1: we couldn't do anything. It was forty five to three

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Speaker 1: it could have been in like sixty five to three. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They took Pavey out in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they took him out. It was I

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Speaker 1: thought I thought we could lose. Actually picked us to win,

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Speaker 1: which seems ridiculous now. I thought we could lose, but

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Speaker 1: I just I did not think Ryan it would be

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Speaker 1: was kind of out of our system. But it clearly was.

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Speaker 5: You guys are right. The final score forty five seventeen.

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Speaker 5: It was much worse than that. It felt like seventy

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Speaker 5: to three. It was so bad. What their first twelve

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Speaker 5: plays they had eighteen yards of offense. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: Drew. What do you blame that? Like they're I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're better than us, clearly, and they played well. But

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of beatdown that should not happen at

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Speaker 1: this stage of a program ever. I mean just I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've lost these other games. Even South Carolina beat us

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Speaker 1: pretty badly. But it wasn't that. That was like old

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Speaker 1: school embarrassment level. Yes, it absolutely was.

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Speaker 6: It was only the third time under Mark Stoops they've

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Speaker 6: given up six hundred yards. The other two were many

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Speaker 6: years ago to Georgia in Alabama. Pavias said a Vandy record,

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Speaker 6: I know your defense is beat up and wounded, but

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Speaker 6: that doesn't explain getting whooped like that. I mean, sure,

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Speaker 6: I didn't think we'd win, and I knew they'd have

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Speaker 6: trouble stopping that offense, but he was just picking them apart.

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Speaker 6: Even early in the game, he made a couple of

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Speaker 6: third down throws. The guys were just wide open in

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Speaker 6: the middle of the field. You could tell in the

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Speaker 6: first series that it was over before we even got

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Speaker 6: minutes into the game, because that offense was just doing

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Speaker 6: whatever they want.

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Speaker 1: Whatever they wanted. I mean, we had no chance of

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Speaker 1: covering them. You know. It was it was. It was embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: It was embarrassing.

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Speaker 6: And the deep balls, I want to add, you know,

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Speaker 6: because I mentioned the injuries, the guy gotten burned was

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Speaker 6: quarterback one on the deep balls, so that wasn't even injury.

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Speaker 1: Thing that was your start was a great throw. Like

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Speaker 1: if that was the one thing that happened, you'd go, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: was oddly like, well, that was a great throw, great whatever.

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Speaker 1: But then it just continued to get worse. You know,

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Speaker 1: Week with two more embarrassing losses, we've had two laws

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Speaker 1: All right, Ryan, you know you you're it's a good

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Speaker 4: Stay away from my mom too, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, Ryan, you go hang out with theovon. Remember what

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Speaker 5: Drew's mom was pinching my butto.

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Speaker 1: No, Ryan, I did say Shannon on cover zero that

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Speaker 1: That's what it would be like, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it kind of would. It's just the hot somebody,

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Speaker 1: Me, Mom, Larry and Dana Carvey at the Middlesborough High

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Speaker 1: I knew you were gonna play this. This is the

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Speaker 1: when it comes to music. I knew you were gonna

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Speaker 1: all right. Parents shown in games Steph Curry's mom. They

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Speaker 6: I was an international story that day because Lonzo Ball's dad.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: That's probably close to be honest, Ryan h. A. J.

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Speaker 5: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it was a party the entire game,

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Speaker 3: You think it'll be watching Vandy Tennessee just for Papia's

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Speaker 1: If you if it was your mom, would you be embarrassed?

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Speaker 4: Probably?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I don't think we all would of our mothers.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's better than an absent mom. They seem to

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Speaker 6: The boots what burst, rights, Matt, I'm sixty two years old.

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Speaker 6: Those boots are fashionable now I wear them. Yes, she's

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Speaker 1: Them for you.

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Speaker 4: There's no age lemon on boots, I guess, or booty shorts.

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Speaker 5: I mean, let's let's.

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Speaker 1: It is senior day. It's not like she was just

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Speaker 5: Her friends and there is a white elephant in the room.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm worried. I'm worried too. Run it by Drew. Drew, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's not as bad as I thought

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Speaker 1: Sure? All right? Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: The white elf in the room is she's a hottie.

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Speaker 5: That's why she was being shown as often as she was.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't great, but I expected worse. Yeah I did.

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Speaker 4: Of course.

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Speaker 1: That's not even white all. I mean, I think everybody knows.

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Speaker 5: That, but we didn't mention, haven't mentioned it yet.

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Speaker 1: Because we are grown ups and we imply things. We

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Speaker 1: need to Okay, Okay, I would you Drew, you knew

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Speaker 1: this is what you knew? That Mario you too? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's on if Mario's in there and let that happen,

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Speaker 7: I feel like joke m parents.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a good one from the past.

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Speaker 1: Good call, Adham.

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Speaker 7: At the game aside, which was terrible, we all know that.

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Speaker 7: I actually found myself liking Diego Pavia and I know

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Speaker 1: Stop, that's rude. He's not gonna make the draft. I

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Speaker 1: don't think, Shannon, I've not seen him. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that he will, but I mean

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Speaker 1: I mean, at least somebody who brings him into camp.

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Speaker 4: Sure he's like a little Doug Flutie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly That's a great way to put it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't see any value in in

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Speaker 1: It is. We had four weeks ago where we did

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Speaker 1: We did it last week and how many of the

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Speaker 1: I think we're right back where we were.

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Speaker 5: I think it's that bad.

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Speaker 1: You think it's back to whiskey thief? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 6: I mean the three game win streak was fun, and

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Speaker 1: So does that say fans are in some ways fickle? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Ryan, if you were to go online, it's

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Speaker 5: I do, But then again, most people I deal with

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Speaker 5: This is what I think you know? We've gone through

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Speaker 5: eleven game seasons. It was had the nation's longest losing streak,

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Speaker 5: all those losing games to Tennessee, to Florida. Just the

440
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Speaker 5: fact that we're back to this level is such a turnaround.

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Speaker 5: They could give credit all the stoops. So I think

442
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Speaker 5: they're willing to throw him a little life jacket, a

443
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Speaker 5: life preserver.

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Speaker 1: Just what if there's people who would say the life

445
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Speaker 1: preserver was we brought you back after you were four

446
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Speaker 1: and eight last year.

447
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a bad year last year. But I think,

448
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Speaker 5: just as me again, if I talked to the fact

449
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Speaker 5: he's kind of turned it around here in the middle

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Speaker 5: of the season, even despite the game yesterday Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Let's say there was no Louisville game and you were

452
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Speaker 1: the ad also knowing you have to pay a thirty

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Speaker 1: seven million dollar bio, are you letting him go? Ryan?

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Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm bringing him back because I want to

455
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Speaker 5: bring Cutter Bully back, and I want to bring Bush

456
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Speaker 5: Hammdon back, and we're gonna build on this what we

457
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Speaker 5: started here this year.

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Speaker 6: I gotta find that money because next year is not

459
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Speaker 6: gonna be fun. People aren't gonna buy tickets.

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Speaker 1: And when you are letting him go, people.

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Speaker 6: Are gonna make a statement next year. Yeah, unless they

462
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Speaker 6: find a way to market cutter Bowli and find a

463
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Speaker 6: way to bring some life into the stadium. I mean,

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Speaker 6: the people bragging about how fun a Vanderbilt game was

465
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Speaker 6: is my biggest takeaway of all of it. Forget the loss.

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Speaker 6: The fact that Vanderbilt has an atmosphere that people want

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Speaker 6: to be a part of is a bigger problem.

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Speaker 1: By the way, white elephant doesn't mean what Ryan said

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Speaker 1: it to. No, that's like a christ Christmas game. That's

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Speaker 1: change guests.

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Speaker 5: The elephant in the.

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Speaker 1: Room, the elephant in the room, not the white elephant.

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Speaker 1: All of us skipped over that. By the way, Shannon

474
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Speaker 1: and I will give our verdicts after the break. TJ. Smith,

475
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Speaker 1: personal injury attorney, called TJ. He'll make them pay now.

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Speaker 3: More of Kentucky's port tridio presented by Doctor Here's Matt Joe.

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Speaker 1: Who's listening to him, cackling in the background, just going on,

478
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Speaker 1: why are you you are? We all need to have

479
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Speaker 1: this self confidence Ryan does in himself. He like he

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Speaker 1: cackles like a hyena about things, and it's there's only

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Speaker 1: it's the jokes he makes Shannon, which usually are involving

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Speaker 1: Flatulen's yeah, or it's an attractive older woman. Those are

483
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Speaker 1: the two things that make him laugh the most. Am

484
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Speaker 1: I right about that?

485
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Speaker 4: Those are his weakness?

486
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Speaker 1: Those are the like like he would be the easiest

487
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Speaker 1: person to do comedy for.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody wants him in the front.

489
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Speaker 1: Everybody wants him in the front row. And there are

490
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Speaker 1: two kinds of jokes and he'll just laugh.

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Speaker 4: That's Ryan.

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Speaker 1: That's by the way. And I just somebody sent out

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Speaker 1: a picture and I just retweeted it of the mother

494
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Speaker 1: with the security guard behind her and the look on

495
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Speaker 1: his face. You need to go to Twitter and look

496
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Speaker 1: at it. Have you seen it?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? First of all, is she wearing a crown? U?

499
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Speaker 1: Is that like a princess? Crowd?

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Speaker 5: She had one on at some point.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that, I think she is. Why does

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Speaker 1: she have a football?

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Speaker 6: Probably probably one of the thirty touchdowns he threw he

504
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Speaker 6: gave to her. Every one in the crowd probably had

505
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Speaker 6: a football from that game.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we didn't we didn't do ours Shannon,

507
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Speaker 1: what would you.

508
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Speaker 4: Do if there's no Lobo game and that was the end.

509
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Speaker 1: Of the season, just ended today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would bring them back. I would bring him

511
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Speaker 3: back for one more season. But if it's if we

512
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Speaker 3: have the season again next year, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Does the does the for you too? Does the thirty

514
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Speaker 1: seven million dollars change it? Like, let's say there was

515
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Speaker 1: no buy then you if there was no buy out,

516
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Speaker 1: would you both let him go?

517
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Speaker 4: Yeah, if there's no buyo, that makes things a lot easier.

518
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Speaker 4: But I mean the thirty seven million dollars complicates every yew.

519
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Speaker 1: But so let's just live in a world where there's

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Speaker 1: no buyo. Are you both doing it? Are you both

521
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Speaker 1: letting him go?

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm still not letting him go because I think

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Speaker 5: they're five wins and this season, the way it started out,

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Speaker 5: I think it's a good turnaround. I think it's a

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Speaker 5: good coach and you got them again, take forgot to

526
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Speaker 5: forget what happened.

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Speaker 1: So you're on the no matter what, you'd bring him.

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Speaker 5: Back unless they get blown out again Saturday, then I'm.

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Speaker 1: Drew's on even with the thirty seven million. So let

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Speaker 1: me ask you, Drew the question. I asked the caller,

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Speaker 1: where are you getting the money? You gotta find it,

532
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Speaker 1: because at some point saying I tell you I can't

533
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Speaker 1: get it, I don't. There's just there's nobody who'll give it.

534
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Speaker 1: So what am I doing?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 6: At that point, I think we look at the ad

537
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Speaker 6: and say, how did we get in this situation? Fair Enough,

538
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Speaker 6: at some point you have to look at the money

539
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 6: you're gonna lose. It is crazy that they could not

540
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Speaker 6: sell out one single football game with all men Tennessee,

541
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Speaker 6: Texas and Florida on the schedule. That's embarrassing in itself.

542
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Speaker 6: So if you run it back, you're not gonna sell

543
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Speaker 6: it again next year. So at some point you're just

544
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Speaker 6: losing money and running fans off.

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Speaker 1: Well, you people say that, I'm not sure that's true.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for instance, last year was our high season

547
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Speaker 1: ticket sales of any year besides COVID, and I believe

548
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Speaker 1: we were twelve hundred down this year. Now that's a

549
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: decent amount of money, but it's not thirty seven million

550
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Speaker 1: dollars next year. I would expect it would be down

551
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Speaker 1: some But like we had a caller say, twenty thousand, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: that's not it wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: Be down that much, I wouldn't think no.

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Speaker 1: I mean that would be one out of every two

555
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Speaker 1: season ticket holders saying no.

556
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Speaker 6: If they do another spring where they don't even speak, Now,

557
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Speaker 6: that's it could happen, right, So for me.

558
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Speaker 1: I'm making you all do it. I'll answer to there

559
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Speaker 1: needs to be a change in terms of it's just

560
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Speaker 1: better for everybody if there's a different coach next year.

561
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Speaker 1: But I do think if I'm trying to like figure

562
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Speaker 1: out the financial responsibilities here, I don't think you can

563
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Speaker 1: just pay a thirty seven million dollar lump sum in

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Speaker 1: sixty days. I just don't think the University of Kentucky

565
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Speaker 1: can do that. Now, if I had a magic tech

566
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Speaker 1: like tech billionaire who came to me and said, Madam

567
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: will write you the check, then honestly, I'd probably do

568
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Speaker 1: it because I think it's necessary because I think the

569
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: FAM morale is so low. But if you don't have that,

570
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Speaker 1: then I'm with you, Shannon, I don't think you can

571
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Speaker 1: do it, yeah, because I don't know where you that

572
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: money does not grow on trees. You have to remember

573
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Speaker 1: that from every other fan base that did this, they

574
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Speaker 1: had a deal where they could pay it over time.

575
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Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher is the only one that had a lump

576
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Speaker 1: some payment. Interestingly enough, Drew the same agent Mark Stoops

577
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Speaker 1: had who Nego sheiated it and two Texas A and

578
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: m Alums came and said we'll pay for it, and

579
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Speaker 1: that's why they did it.

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Speaker 5: We don't have that, And it seems like Kentucky's biggest

581
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Speaker 5: people that possibly could pay that are very close with

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Speaker 5: Mark Stoops.

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Speaker 1: Now. I think four or five weeks ago, some of

584
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Speaker 1: those people agreed there was a change needed. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if that's what they think now. I'm not trying

586
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Speaker 1: to speak for him, but I'm not sure if that's

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Speaker 1: what they think now. Now, maybe Shannon, if you lose

588
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Speaker 1: by fifty to Louisville, we'll think something different.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, And it really does all come down to

590
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Speaker 3: this game. I think that the narrative for Stoops that

591
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Speaker 3: we're going to have when the offseason all comes down

592
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Speaker 3: to what happens on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Right, last question, Let's say you beat Louisville and made

594
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Speaker 1: a Bowl for Drew. For you, you still make the change.

595
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Speaker 1: If you're six and six and you make a.

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Speaker 6: Bowl, I still have very little faith in next season,

597
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Speaker 6: but I'll admit it is much harder to fire him

598
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Speaker 6: if he made it to a bowl game and pay that.

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00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean that's where we are, and you

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Speaker 1: say that was zero faith moving forward. I don't let

601
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Speaker 1: me just say I don't have a lot of faith.

602
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Speaker 1: But I also know coming up with that money, they

603
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: don't have it unless it magically appears. They don't have

604
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: it because this athletic department is at this point. This

605
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: will change in five or six years when the business

606
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: of Nile becomes more clear, But right now, our basketball

607
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: and football roster were dependent on the generosity of a

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Speaker 1: handful of people, and I don't think those people feel

609
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Speaker 1: the way a lot of this fan base does, at

610
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Speaker 1: least to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's kind of

611
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Speaker 1: the sense I get.

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Speaker 5: And next year's schedule is where you've got four home

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Speaker 5: games in the SEC, five road games in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick Rause is sending me so season tickets last

615
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Speaker 1: year we're down about twenty five hundred. So that's a

616
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Speaker 1: decent amount. But what's what? What is? What does season

617
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Speaker 1: tickets cost? Twenty five hundred is times?

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Speaker 9: What?

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Speaker 1: Right? Twenty five hundred times? What's a season ticket cost?

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Speaker 1: Twelve hundred dollars something? Like that average. Yeah, it's so

621
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Speaker 1: widespread with Yeah, it's all, But what would the average

622
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Speaker 1: be you think, let's just say fifteen hundred dollars, let's

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Speaker 1: just say that. That's it's probably high, but let's just

624
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Speaker 1: say it. Twenty five hundred times fifteen hundred is what

625
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Speaker 1: Shanton put that into the thing.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five hundred times fifteen hundred would be three point

627
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Speaker 3: seven million.

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Speaker 1: Three point seven million. That's conveniently a decimal place from

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Speaker 1: thirty seventy million. So that means to make up that

630
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Speaker 1: that thirty seven million, you would need twenty five thousand

631
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Speaker 1: people to stop their season tickets.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that'll happen.

633
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Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. So I'm just I'm just doing

634
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: the math. I'm not making judgments. That's just the math.

635
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Speaker 1: Mark go ahead, and Mark, guys go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Hello. Yeah, you were on the right track that I

637
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 8: thought he was. On Saturday, you kept asking everybody where

638
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 8: the money's come from. You have thirty eight thousand season

639
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 8: ticket holders for football. You charge each one two hundred

640
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 8: dollars more. That comes up to seven point six million dollars.

641
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 8: You pay the new coach six million dollars you've got

642
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 8: three million dollars less over. If you can't get the thirties,

643
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 8: you can't get a loan, so you don't have to

644
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Speaker 8: do the sixty days. Okay, then there's I.

645
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: Mean to get a loan. Your your math. You're paying

646
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Speaker 1: for the new coach, but you're still not paying for

647
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Speaker 1: the old coach.

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Speaker 8: Well, the old coach that we have a budget. You

649
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Speaker 8: have a budget next year. If he is he's still here,

650
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Speaker 8: you have a budget of.

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Speaker 1: Not our budgets in the road, by our budgets. No no, no, no, no.

652
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Speaker 1: The nine million dollars. They have to pay it in

653
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Speaker 1: sixty days.

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Speaker 8: Okay, you get alone.

655
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Speaker 1: The problem is thought, here's a problem with here's a problem.

656
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Speaker 1: I bet they could get alone. I bet they probably could.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem. For the first time, hang on. For

658
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Speaker 1: the first time in twenty years, the athletic department is

659
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Speaker 1: in the red now because of nil. They used to

660
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Speaker 1: be in the black. We used to give money back

661
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Speaker 1: to the school. We are now in the red and

662
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Speaker 1: we actually had to take a loan from the school.

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Speaker 1: It's first time we've ever had to do that, by

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Speaker 1: my understanding, in a long long time. So this is

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Speaker 1: probably the worst financial position the athletics department has been

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Speaker 1: in in twenty years.

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Speaker 8: Have you looked at that schedule next year?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's terrible, it's gonna be terrible. Whoever they goes.

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Speaker 8: I mean, here, we're going to we're going to relive.

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Speaker 8: We're going to relive what we did this year.

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Speaker 1: I agree again, but but that still doesn't make the money.

672
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: But that still doesn't make the money appear.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I thirty eight thirty eight thousand season ticket

674
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Speaker 8: holders pay two hundred dollars more.

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Speaker 1: Thirty eight thousand, But that could be, but you're still

676
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Speaker 1: thirty million short.

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Speaker 8: No, well, you do whatever. You have to get a loan.

678
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 8: If you do that, thirty eight thousand times two hundred

679
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 8: dollars gets you seven point six million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Per year, and you still have thirty four million.

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Speaker 8: Huh, then you have then you that's seven point six

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Speaker 8: per year. You get a loan, but.

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Speaker 1: They have to pay it in sixty days. They have

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Speaker 1: to pay it in sixty days, So you.

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Speaker 8: Have to you have to get a loan to pay

686
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Speaker 8: the forty five million dollars.

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Speaker 5: Just get a loan.

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Speaker 1: Match we're just keeping loans. We have a loan to

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Speaker 1: put Wi Fi in the stadium, I mean, and there's

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Speaker 1: also the fact that they're trying to do this entertainment district,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know it will work, but my guess

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Speaker 1: is they have a huge budget for that. So again,

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Speaker 1: I'm just giving you realities. I'm not the one making

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Speaker 1: the decision. Drew would let him go now, money be damned,

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Speaker 1: Shannon and Ryan would keep him. I'm leaning towards getting

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Speaker 1: rid of him, but I also somebody's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: show me where my money comes from, because I don't know.

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Speaker 6: We keep focusing on Stoops and Bowley in the schedule.

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Speaker 6: It's a money issue. Where's Mitch's accountability? He handcuffed both programs.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a completely fair no. No one's saying

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Speaker 6: his name and all this cloud.

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00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Well it should because you're right that contract was a disaster.

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Speaker 6: So yes, Stoops could be better. But we're in this

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Speaker 6: situation because a Mitch not Stoops. Stoops just signed of

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Speaker 6: paper that was beneficial for him, which anyone with a sign.

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Speaker 1: coming in, a lot of people have thoughts this is good.

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Speaker 1: We need to I mean like people need to express

723
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Speaker 1: themselves on this stuff. One person writes, Matt, I all

724
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Speaker 1: my friends are Ryan's age. I feel like I know

725
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Speaker 1: people are similar to him. I don't know anybody that

726
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to change. Who are these people that Ryan

727
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: know that are cool with bringing them back. It's a

728
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Speaker 1: good question, right, I mean, not not their names, but like,

729
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Speaker 1: what kind of people are we talking?

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Speaker 5: Well, I can read you a text message I got

731
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Speaker 5: if you want me to go? That's trying to be funny.

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Speaker 1: Well he gets mad, Yes he does. I love you

733
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: for that. You like you? Ride all laugh at it

734
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: if somebody writes him on the table level. But Ride

735
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: does not like strangers giving him a hard time. I

736
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Speaker 1: know you guys can do it.

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Speaker 5: They can. Okay, here's the text I got. You're talking

738
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Speaker 5: about this currently? I think Stoops needs another year. His

739
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 5: mentality is perfect for us. He had a terrible schedule

740
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Speaker 5: the last two years. If Bowie is this good and

741
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 5: they can improve offense, I'm good with it.

742
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Speaker 1: See. I wish we could do Drew a pole of

743
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: the fan base because I continue to believe it's hard

744
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: to get a representative sample, you know what I mean,

745
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: Like it's hard to know. If you go on Twitter,

746
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: everyone wants to fire. If you go on CHS board,

747
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: virtually everyone wants to fire. If you come to our shows,

748
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: you see how it fluctuates week to week. Yeah, right,

749
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like if you're if you

750
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Speaker 1: were to take a poll of the season ticket holders.

751
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like I say this a lot.

752
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: I feel like we interact with more different types of

753
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: fans than anyone, and it's still hard to read because

754
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: every group is different. I had a lady on Friday

755
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: at the Remote Shannon at Parlor Pizza get mad at

756
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Speaker 1: me and say you're way too mean to stop, and

757
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: I was like me, yeah, there are people who think

758
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: I'm too nice to him. So I don't know, Drew,

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00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: how you could get a representative sample, and I wish

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00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: I could, Like if I said to you texting the

761
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: text machine, do you want to keep him or not?

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00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: I think the notts would definitely win because the keeping

763
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: people are going to be like, well, I don't want to,

764
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Speaker 1: so I think we're Drew. It's like we're all almost guessing,

765
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and I'm with you.

766
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 6: I'll get I'll get two messages in two minutes, and

767
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 6: one of them will say you're being too mean. Stop

768
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 6: being frank Franklin, this is unbecoming, You're not a fan,

769
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 6: this is bad for the university, and the other person

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Speaker 6: is like, you're not being mean enough, and they will

771
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Speaker 6: be back to back in my messages a minute apart.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing is we all tend in life

773
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Speaker 1: hang out with people that are like us, Shannon, right,

774
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Speaker 1: So we end up we end up with hearing the

775
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: opinions of people who have the same opinions we are.

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Speaker 1: It's exactly what happened to my party in twenty sixteen.

777
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: Democrats only hung out with each other and then we

778
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: couldn't believe Trump won.

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Speaker 3: Yep, if you did that poll this past friday, you'd

780
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Speaker 3: have a completely different result than you would And you.

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Speaker 1: Even Drew, who's the one who most thinks there should

782
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Speaker 1: be a change, acknowledges if we beat Louisville, maybe it flips,

783
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Speaker 1: and so like, that's why this is all so much

784
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: in flux. It seems like even week to week. One

785
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: person writes Matt, I don't understand how boosters could want

786
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: him back. Did they not care about the university or

787
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: do they just care about their friendship? Well, that's easy

788
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: for you to say because it's not your money. So

789
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: let's let's just put our money where our mouth is.

790
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: How much would you be willing to give to pay marks?

791
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: How much money would you be willing to write on

792
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: a check that goes directly into Mark Stoop's pocket.

793
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 6: Me zero dollars because I didn't put him in this

794
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 6: spotcatire Matt.

795
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: Now, Drew is the one who most wants a change,

796
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Speaker 1: and he's willing to put up zero dollars.

797
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 6: Because I'm not backing up the situation that someone put

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Speaker 6: them in there.

799
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Speaker 1: And that's a reasonable position.

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Speaker 6: Yes it is, and there are normal circumstances I would

801
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 6: but I'm not letting someone out.

802
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: Okay, but think about that. We want these people to

803
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Speaker 1: pay money, and a lot of them may have Drew's

804
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: view of well, I'm not the one that did it.

805
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: I ain't paying and so then where are you getting

806
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: the money? It's not going to magically appear somewhere because

807
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: I Drew's position is completely reasonable, Shannon, that would be

808
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: the position you would have. Of course, I ain't paying it.

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00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: You did this, Do.

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00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: Whatever you want with the money as long as it's

811
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Speaker 4: not mine. I don't care what you do.

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Speaker 6: And I think that would be just another bailout for

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00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 6: him and a couple of boosters. So fans want a bailout,

814
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 6: and there are a couple and a lot some of

815
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 6: the boosters may be like.

816
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: Well, I ain't coming from me. So Mark, Anthony, what's up?

817
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: Who's next?

818
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Speaker 7: Good morning? Oh y'all go ahead listen fellas uh Diego's mom.

819
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 7: The first shot I saw over shit or propped up

820
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 7: on it railings right, I wasn't the I had boots.

821
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 7: It was the area between the top of them boots

822
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 7: and them all right, all right.

823
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Speaker 1: Mark, that's that's a right there. Just everybody just turn

824
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Speaker 1: it down a little bit.

825
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 7: Okay, there was there was little boys watching the football game.

826
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 7: Fell in love with you. It was mine and didn't

827
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Speaker 7: really know why. I understand as far as next week's game.

828
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Speaker 7: When you have a horse, you run him in a

829
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Speaker 7: race and he finishes, dfl uh, your next move is

830
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Speaker 7: to go down in class. And I really think, I

831
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Speaker 7: really think next week's game we're going down in class.

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Speaker 1: We are.

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Speaker 7: That gives us a chance.

834
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Speaker 1: And this is a race next week.

835
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Speaker 7: So if people are still wanting to get rid of

836
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Speaker 7: Stoopsy after next year, even if the next month, next week,

837
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Speaker 7: even if he wins, who you're going to get to

838
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Speaker 7: replace him? And is that person going to be able

839
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 7: to recruit enough talent?

840
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 8: Well?

841
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Speaker 1: I disagree. That would be one place I would disagree

842
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Speaker 1: with you. There are people I appreciate the call you

843
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: could get. This job is now much more attractive than

844
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Speaker 1: it was fifteen years ago. In Mimi, Dennis and Richmond.

845
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dennis.

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Speaker 10: It all comes down Saturday, and you know Steps wins

847
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 10: this game and as a good off season that camro Bowley,

848
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 10: there's gonna be season tickets. I'm a season ticket older,

849
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 10: and you know I'm gonna renew my It all comes

850
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 10: down to Saturday.

851
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So is that right, Dennis? You your renewal will

852
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: will depend on whether we beat Louisville.

853
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 9: Well, well, I don't want It's gonna come down to

854
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 9: a lot of things. But I've been a Sea ticket

855
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 9: older since ninety eight, so I'm not one of these

856
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 9: people that want to I'm not irrational to give up

857
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 9: my season tickets because of one football game. But I

858
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 9: had become a frustrated the last few years, the last

859
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 9: couple of years, especially because we got drug three times

860
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 9: this year in the SEC we did three times we

861
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 9: got drugs, and there's at this one. Don't get me wrong,

862
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 9: I'm a speech guy, but at some point this has

863
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 9: got an end now to me, Like I said, it

864
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 9: all comes down Saturday and what we do Saturday Day.

865
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Speaker 7: I think there's a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of Denis. I gotta cut you off because we

867
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: gotta go to break. I think there's a lot of

868
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: fans like Dennis, Yeah, more than you think, who are

869
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: like their view can change. Came to game, and Saturday

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Speaker 1: will be big for those people. We're gonna take a break,

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Speaker 1: We'll come back. I renumber two. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.