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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Remember when I would talk to Turtle and

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Speaker 1: I would, you know, Jerry Farr and I'd always talk

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Speaker 1: about and I say, hell, hey, how's emmanual? Shrieky? Sometimes

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Speaker 1: you'd lead the interviewer. I would, I'd say, hey, Turtle,

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Speaker 1: how's emmanual shrieky? H good. She'd have no interest in you,

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Speaker 1: and I go, that doesn't matter. I have interest in her.

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Speaker 1: Who doesn't spectacular? She is in person, she was wonderful.

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Speaker 1: And she was in Zohan with Sandler Sneaky, great role

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Speaker 1: by Sloan who was in Entourage. Yes, mclauch and you

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Speaker 1: turned that movie down, as I recall, right, yes I did,

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Speaker 1: because that's where I was asked if I could do

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Speaker 1: a Middle East accent as a cab driver, and I said, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm I mean, I'm I'm a well versed,

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Speaker 1: that was something that was probably out of my milieu.

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Speaker 1: I think the timeline convicted conflicted with other acting roles

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Speaker 1: I remember asking Samuri he said, you didn't tell me

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Speaker 1: Emmanual Shrieky was in the movie. He goes, get in that, Danny, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: for I see what you're doing here, because it is

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Speaker 1: a great segue as far as talking about like some

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Speaker 1: of the beautiful people out there in the world. So

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Speaker 1: I'll let you take it from there, because I'm very

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Speaker 1: comfortable saying that what Brady Quinn. Sure, Emmanual Shrieky to

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Speaker 1: Brady can tell them about beautiful people in general. And

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Speaker 1: you know, we always get bummed when he has to

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Speaker 1: join us on the phone as opposed on the zoom

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Speaker 1: here he is, we get the visual aspect. How awkward

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Speaker 1: is this, Brady? I feel like it got really hot

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Speaker 1: and they were all of a sudden you mentioned Immanuel

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Speaker 1: striategy Like I'm starting to sweat. I'm started taking me

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Speaker 1: back to the days of entourage. Yeah, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: how to feel right now. Let me ask this question, Dan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so when I say that slow, yeah, which does that

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Speaker 1: Is it? Ah? Can we hold on? We got something

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Speaker 1: that's happening technically there. I think it got too hot.

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Speaker 1: I think it's burning up the lines phone lines here

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Speaker 1: with with Brady hold on Brady, Yes point what he's

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Speaker 1: referencing there is a classic argument Sloan from Entourage or

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Speaker 1: Sloan Peterson. Sloan Peterson played by the great Mia Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Don't go deep with me on that one. Mm. She

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Speaker 1: was a stunner. I like Sloan, but she's not Sloan

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Speaker 1: from Entourage. Yeah, but you know that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: very good poll question right there. I haven't seen much

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Speaker 1: of Sloane Peterson from Ferris Buelders say, oh yeah, Seton

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel shrieking, Oh great poll? All right, A right? Or

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Speaker 1: is Emmanuel shrieky the nineties or two thought? Are we

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Speaker 1: good to go? I think that was an air pod

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Speaker 1: issue that was causing that hissing. Oh okay, let's bring

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Speaker 1: back Brady Quinn. Let me give you the full introduction

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Speaker 1: here Fox College and NFL Studio game Analyst, and you

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Speaker 1: can hear him two Pros and a Cup of Joe

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Speaker 1: alongside LaVar Arrington Jonas Knox. And that's the show that

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Speaker 1: precedes hours on Fox Sports Radio six to nine am Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Where were we Brady? So the reason why I ask

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Speaker 1: you the question of who you think of is because

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Speaker 1: Bueller's Day Off and that's your first recollection of the

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Speaker 1: All right, that's all we needed to talk to you about, Brady.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate the time. Is all of this very Christmas. Hey.

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Speaker 1: Did you see where they change the rule, the Kenny

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Speaker 1: of indication you're going to like college football, change something

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Speaker 1: immediately and nothing changes in college football. What did you

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Speaker 1: Like that was one of the coolest things that it

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Speaker 1: first order of business next season? Well, I mean they've

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Speaker 1: because it's not a roster that's devoid of talent, it's

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Speaker 1: built into our into our practice, into our routine, into

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Speaker 1: how we play the game off of, you know, the

427
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: the example that the set, and so to try to

428
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Speaker 1: compare myself to him is like, you know, he's part

429
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 1: of me, and that's kind of I think as we

430
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: start to move on, every each generation sees what the

431
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 1: previous one did and they build off of what they did.

432
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: That's what makes the game great. And the players great

433
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: because of who's coming before them. Ever lose confidence in

434
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Speaker 1: your shot, uh, I think I've I've lost confidence in

435
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: my shot. I think I know I always was going

436
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: to be able to shoot the next shot. But the

437
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: thing that's most difficult is when you when you going

438
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: to a slump, you're it seems like you're the only

439
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 1: one that's trying to help you get out of that slump,

440
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 1: because you know, the the escalator moves on because every

441
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: coach is like, well, he's not shooting the ball well,

442
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 1: so we'll sit him down and put somebody else in.

443
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: And so I'm like a coach, I need more touches. Um.

444
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: So it is, it's certain for shooters you have to

445
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: be able to find a way to get to the

446
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: free throw line, to get the easy layups, to do

447
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: the things that don't put pressure on your long ball.

448
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: Who taught you how to shoot? Well? My dad was

449
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: a great shooter. He shot right handed and left handed. Um.

450
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: I always give credit to Jeff Lynch at the base

451
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: that I grew up in and there was Air Force Base,

452
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: and feel pleasant because they gave me the fundamentals. You know.

453
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Speaker 1: I still have the video of when I was shooting

454
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: free throws and then looked very terrible. And then M

455
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Speaker 1: as I got older, I had, you know, coach Hobbs,

456
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,239
Speaker 1: who's now at Rutgers. They had a big win last night.

457
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen that, and Ron Harper's

458
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: son hit the game. So congratulations Rutgers on that on

459
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 1: that game winner. M But coach Hobbs was he was

460
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: a guards coach at Yukon my freshman year and now

461
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 1: was his first year at Yukon, and he gave me

462
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: these tools to work on that I needed to get

463
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: better at at shooting and being a guard a guarden college.

464
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: So it seems like there's not one person, but there's

465
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: a collection of people over the years. And I don't

466
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Speaker 1: think any any year that I played, I thought I

467
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: was good, but I was always getting pushed by somebody

468
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: from one year to the next, and something was being

469
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: added to to my training to workouts, and you know,

470
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: I was just I soaked it up every every year.

471
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: But you start to look at around the NBA and

472
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: there are guys who just can't shoot. Yeah, how do

473
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: you react to that? When you see a guy who

474
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: can't even make you know, fifty percent of his free throws. Well,

475
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: I've come to find out the free throws, Uh, it's

476
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Speaker 1: just focus, and I think we don't understand how emotional

477
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: they are. And if you don't take that emotion that

478
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: you have in games, think about you either just got

479
00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: knocked down, you know you hard foul the score of

480
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: the game, either down too and you got to make

481
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: these two, or you know you're up to and you

482
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: gotta ice the game. There's different scenarios that force you

483
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: to think about the free throw, and if you don't

484
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: practice that during practice, then you're not preparing yourself for

485
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: the game. And then further, when you think about so

486
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: many guys shooting threes, how many guys take a three

487
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: when they don't need to, and they can just kind

488
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: of take that one too, dribble and get the mid

489
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: range jump shot, and that takes the pressure off the

490
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: three ball a time when you didn't need it. And

491
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: you figure, if if you took nine threes in the

492
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Speaker 1: game and you're like two for nine, if you only

493
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: took six and your two for six, you know, you

494
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Speaker 1: get those other little mid range shots going, then you

495
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: might even be four for six because now you got

496
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Speaker 1: yourself a little confidence going. Would you be in favor

497
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: of moving the three point line back. No, I don't

498
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Speaker 1: think moving it back. What if you eliminated the three

499
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: point shot um, it would definitely make the game more methodical,

500
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: I think, because then you'd have to move around better.

501
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: But it make it better, I don't think so. I

502
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: think it'd be more helter skelter because the three point

503
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: line is it gives us a sense of spacing. Uh,

504
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: it's a threat. It gives us, you know, for for

505
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Speaker 1: for the defense. But I think the best way to

506
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Speaker 1: you the three pointer is that is just a threat

507
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: in your opponent that you can shoot it, and then

508
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: you set it up with your great shooters and you're

509
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: able to get into the paint and do other things. Yeah,

510
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: but there's no movement in basketball. It's a lot of

511
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: stand around because of the three point shot. And you

512
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Speaker 1: got guys who were shooting threes who don't shouldn't be

513
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: shooting threes. Ray, it's you. It's your fault. Yeah, I

514
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: agree with you, and I don't blame myself at all.

515
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: I like to think that I put some good stuff

516
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: out there instead, a good tone. But I think what

517
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: it boils down to is a lot of the coaches

518
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: when you think about what they accept and what they allow,

519
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Speaker 1: because I've as you know, in the last six seven years,

520
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: i'd be watching games even in the high school level.

521
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: I don't see it as much in college, but you

522
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: see kids shooting between half court and three point line,

523
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: and then the coaches don't say anything like, I get it,

524
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: the three is more worth more than the two. But

525
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: at some point coach has to reel end certain guys

526
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: and say, you know, percentage wise, you know, until you

527
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: get you know, work on this shot and you get

528
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: better attempts and you're more efficient. I don't want you

529
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: shooting threes. I want you to get to the basket.

530
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: You know, we've lost a little bit of the mid

531
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: range game and the post game for sure. Well, what

532
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Speaker 1: would happen if Shaq was playing now, if Shot came

533
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: into the league right now, the league it would have

534
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: to change again because Shack was just too dominant. I

535
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Speaker 1: think that I believe that the way to go back

536
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: because what we're copycat league. So when Golden States started

537
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: winning championships, what happened was everybody had to adjust to

538
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: how they played and if they wanted to try to

539
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: beat them, so they sped up their games. A lot

540
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: of people started finding shoot threes and three shooters and

541
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: trying to get them to to to shoot the ball.

542
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: A lot of bigs lost their jobs, you know, they

543
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: moved to indivienchs um Philly had the kid from Duke

544
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: um Elton brand No no, no, no, uh, you know,

545
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: a little bit younger, a big guy. Uh. He came

546
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: into the league as they started shooting threes and then

547
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: he actually had no plays. I can't think of his

548
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: name right now. But until until Philly wins the NBA Championship,

549
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: you know, that's when I think it's going to revert

550
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: back to you know, a big because you got him

551
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: be down there that team right now saying we don't

552
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: really have to to to deal with him because they're

553
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: not dominating the Eastern Conference and the NBA to where

554
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: we need a defensive big and a big that could

555
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: scoring him down low. Right now, we don't have that.

556
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: And so until they do that and they change it,

557
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: the game is gonna be where it is. We're talking

558
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: to Ray Allen, the two time NBA the all time

559
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: leader in three pointers made. Are you gonna are you?

560
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 1: Have you been asked to go to the game in

561
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: Philadelphia or in Indiana the next two games for Steph. Yeah,

562
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: I've I've talked with I spoke with with the people

563
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: with with the Warriors, and I actually spoke with Steph

564
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: a little bit trying to kind of help him navigate

565
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: this whole process. Uh. It's an exciting time for him. Uh,

566
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: And I try to give him the kind of what

567
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: I was dealing with and you know, going into the

568
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: game and and everything that that that led up to it.

569
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: And you know, I was fortunate because it was I

570
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: broke the record in Boston against the Lakers with Reggie

571
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: and the building, So it's just only appropriate that I

572
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: find my way there by hook. Uh. I don't know

573
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: where it's going to be, so I gotta kind of

574
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: watch this thing. I don't know if you noticed, but

575
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm coaching myself Goldbert Prepp here in Miami and so

576
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: we have games as well. So it's kind of like

577
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: a tricky situation for me trying to navigate kind of

578
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: what it is that happens with them. But why don't

579
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: you go in to heckle him? Ray, Why don't you

580
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: like put up a sign or yell out I'm the king,

581
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: Because if you haven't watched anything over the last twelve years.

582
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: That's not gonna buy the stuff. I know, who do

583
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: you think would be a better three point shooter? Knowing

584
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: who they are if they started out now, Kobe or

585
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: Michael Well, I think they both were underrated three point shooters.

586
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: When you think about they just it's like if you

587
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: could do one thing great and a couple of things great,

588
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: then some of the other things get overshadowed. Mike just

589
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: never really had to shoot threes because he was so

590
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: good inside the pain. Kobe was so good just scoring

591
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: in general. So if I had to stay between both

592
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 1: of them, uh, you know, for it's hard because they

593
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: both play with their back to the basket. They both

594
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: were slashes at the rim. I just don't think that

595
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: their games were designed to just sit out there and

596
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: wait and sit me on a three point line. But

597
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: better form, better shooting form, Organ Jordan for sure. Really. Yeah,

598
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: see this may sound strange to you. I think Clay

599
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: Thompson is a better stand shooter than Steph Is. Steph

600
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: Is It's like Steph just creates Clay. You know, get

601
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: the ball, maybe one dribble or catch and shoot is

602
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: more dangerous than Steph is that Is that a fair

603
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: assessment in your opinion? Well, I wouldn't say more dangerous,

604
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: because Steph has the ball all the time, you know,

605
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: so you have to really take that offense or that defense,

606
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: and you have to contribute to and then sometimes three

607
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: guys to him. And then that's where everybody around him

608
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: is able to to be great in their roles. But

609
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: in my comparison with with Clay, Clay is moving without

610
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: the ball. He can shift the defense. When he gets open,

611
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: everybody gets open, similar to to how I played. I

612
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: believe that Steph is in a lane of his own

613
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: that I don't think he has. You can say, you know,

614
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: he and Damian Lillard with their ability to shoot from

615
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: deep uh and be able to handle the ball and

616
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: get to the paint. But Steph gets to the paint

617
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: more than Lillard does. But I would compare Clay more

618
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: to myself and Reggie because we are moving without the ball.

619
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: We're kind of on the weak side a lot, and

620
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: we're and the Rip Hamilton in there. You know, even

621
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: though Rip wasn't uh, he wasn't a big volume three

622
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: point shooter, but to be able to move the defense

623
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: and to come off tin downs and screens and shooting

624
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: transition without touching the ball. That's a that's a real

625
00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: real talent. Is Lebron a good shooter? Um? I I

626
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: say he's a good shooter, but he's also a field shooter.

627
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: The more he has the ball in his hands, you

628
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: know he could make shots. He's a shot maker. Yeah.

629
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: I don't like I don't like the form, and I

630
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: don't like that he's taking all these threes. But I

631
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: think that might come as you get older, that you

632
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: just don't want to drive to the hoop and take

633
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: the beating. Yeah, And you feel it when you get older,

634
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: you feel you know, you don't have that that that

635
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: there's a like a sponginess for lack of a better term,

636
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: that your your body. You know, your your calfs, your ankles.

637
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: You feel that sponginess when you're younger. When you get older,

638
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: that goes away a little bit. And so you can

639
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: you can work on jumping just that that that much

640
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: and perfect your shooting from from outside. Like well, I

641
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: have one of my best shooting nights when I had

642
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: uh Pteli to the Nitish when I was playing in Milwaukee,

643
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: and I just managed how to come off a screen

644
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: and shoot just by jumping a little bit and pushing

645
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: the rest away with my hands. And so Lebron with

646
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: his size, he has so much upper body strength. Though

647
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to maintain shooting and shooting well,

648
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: but he has to have the ball in his hands

649
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: to keep that rhythm. Did you ever airball a three pointer?

650
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not gonna say no, because I'm sure somebody

651
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: could find some somewhere. But I always get on my

652
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 1: kids because I said, varsity players, you guys should not

653
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: be shooting airballs nowhere. You know, get the ball hit

654
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: the rim. But uh, you know, just like anything never

655
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: I've never in so shooting airballs out. You didn't even

656
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: have a shot of it going in. But see, you

657
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: got to show your kids. And I do think this

658
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: is great because people now, you know, they find you

659
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: again and then we talk about you. So I think,

660
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: even though you're gonna lose this record, it's also great

661
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: to shine the spotlight on you one more time, or

662
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: at least one more time with you know, your greatness

663
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: at shooting. Yeah, and then it goes back to Reggie

664
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Speaker 1: as well, because there's a there's a beginning and then

665
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: there's where we are now, and how about an over

666
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: fifty three point shooting content? Over fifty yeah, I mean

667
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised. You know, over fifty guys can still shoot.

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00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: You know, Reggie can still shoot. You see Reggie, he's

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00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: a cyclist. He keeps himself. Well, you're not fifty yet,

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00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: so yet, how old are you? Okay? So in over

671
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: forty five three point shooting content, are you the one shooting?

672
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I like my odds. Okay, it's anybody over

673
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: forty five or sure, Reggie still still pretty good? Yeah,

674
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: everybody's good. Like the one thing that you have to remember,

675
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: and I tell this to everybody that you know as

676
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: a fan of mine or loves the way I shot

677
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: the ball, is that for majority in my career, I

678
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: wasn't the best player. I won't say majority before a

679
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: lot of teams I played on, I wasn't the best

680
00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: shooting all my teams. You know, I had Eddie House, great,

681
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: great shooter, and you know it was like the microwave.

682
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: I think you're being humble. I think you're being oh yeah,

683
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm telling you these guys, it's like when you see

684
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: that every day and you're you're pushing and they're shooting

685
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: the ball like Mike Miller, James Jones, Michael Red, like

686
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: those those types of guys, they shoot the ball so well,

687
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: and when you see them shooting in a practice, they're

688
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: going at your head every single drill, and it pushes

689
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: you and you just stay challenged, you stay competing. And

690
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: without guys like that on my team, and you know,

691
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to think how good I actually

692
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: couldn't could have been without that that that example, maybe

693
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: I get bird Bird sixty five. You know, he might

694
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: be able to give you one rack of he be

695
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: able to give you one rack of balls, talk some smack,

696
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: but remember bird Bird didn't rely on athleticism to shoot,

697
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: so it's all in his hands and his wrists. So

698
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: I do believe he can still shoot it. And you

699
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: pointed out, you know that people forget this that Steph

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00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: with the leg Trey Young with the legs, Like your

701
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: shot starts with your legs, and I think people forget

702
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: about that when you're trying to create your jump shot there,

703
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: And that's I think an underrated part of great deep shooters. Yeah,

704
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: and every every if you go back to every All

705
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: Star weekend, when you look at the three point shootout.

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00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: You listen to the commentary of the broadcast and they

707
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: talk about the guys who have a greater chance of

708
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: winning because they are more push shot shooters. So you

709
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: see they get the ball, they just push it from

710
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: here and they get to the racket, they just push

711
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: and they don't rely heavily on their lower body. And

712
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: however you do it, you know, it requires practice and

713
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: understanding what's your release point is every time you shoot it,

714
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: and you got to get it off quick. Obviously playing

715
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: around great athletes, so you take step He doesn't have

716
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: a lot of movement in his lower body. Same thing

717
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: with Trey Young, and so they get the ball off

718
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: quick because it's to get the ball just you just

719
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: push it up there. And they've perfected that. So it's

720
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Speaker 1: not when people look at me, when they look at Reggie,

721
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: when they look at Dale Curry, Dale shot the ball

722
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: up here. So when you look at all these different shooters,

723
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: there's everybody has a different form. Mine was severely reliant on,

724
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, my legs and my lower body. So you know,

725
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: you catch me on a shooter around in Chicago in

726
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: January and February, I was having a tough go at

727
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: it to start to day because that that that United

728
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: Center at the time was like it felt like it

729
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: was thirty degrees. I'm like, I can't jump everything. I'm

730
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: too this front rim, I'm like, I just don't for

731
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: the So for me, I had to really get warmed

732
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: up and I had to understand my body. Yeah. But Ray,

733
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: and it didn't bother. It didn't bother Michael Jordan jumping

734
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: in the United Center. Nope. And that's why he was

735
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: made at seven thirty at night. Yes, he was every

736
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: every night at seven thirty. He was great. Uh, great

737
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: to talk to you again, and uh, hopefully you get

738
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Speaker 1: some record nish and more recognition out of this. And

739
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Ray all right, that's Ray Allen,

740
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: hold of Famer, two time NBA champ. Thanks for listening

741
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

742
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,239
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743
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,040
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746
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Speaker 1: It's me three time pro bowler Levarrington, and I couldn't

747
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Speaker 1: be more excited to announce a new podcast called up

748
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Speaker 1: on Game. What is up on Game? You asked, along

749
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Speaker 1: Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

756
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: you get your podcast from. Zach Levi plays NFL Hall

757
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: of Famer Kurt Warner in the new biopic American Underdog,

758
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: which opens in theaters everywhere on Christmas, and the great

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00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: actor Zachary Levi joins us on the program. You know

760
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: that we might be related? What, Yeah, it might be.

761
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: How talk to me. Your last name is Pew? Yes,

762
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: my last name's Pew. You're kidding me? No, that's amazing. Yeah.

763
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: Wait where where did your Where did your parents or grandparents?

764
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: Where do they? You know? Hearken from Ohio, Ohio? Okay, Well,

765
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Speaker 1: I mean my dad was born in Saint Paul, Minnesota.

766
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: His dad was Minnesota based but that's you know, that

767
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: Northern Midwest. I mean, you know, you go back a

768
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: generation beyond that or two, and that we could we

769
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Speaker 1: could actually be from the same and both handsome actors.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, that's really the evidence. R I mean,

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00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: forget the last name. It's look at the resemblance, look

772
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: at the sexiness that we exude. But when I was

773
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: growing up, you know, everybody made fun of that last name,

774
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Speaker 1: and you had to be really good because if you didn't,

775
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: it's Pew, you stink. And I remember I got to

776
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: CNN my first job, and my boss goes, you got

777
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Speaker 1: to change your name, and I thought he meant my

778
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Speaker 1: first name because I had already, you know, I was

779
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: in my late twenties. I had already you know, suffered

780
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Speaker 1: the slings and arrows of having the last name of Pew.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, he goes, no, your

782
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Speaker 1: last name, and he said take your middle name, which

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's what you did. That's exactly what I did. Dude.

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Speaker 1: We we we've walked very similar paths. Yeah, I mean, yeah, look,

785
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: growing up with the last name Pew teased relentlessly, particularly

786
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: when you get to like middle school, where everyone is

787
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: just so horrible anyway. And then yeah, you know, it

788
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: was interesting when I because I always wanted to be

789
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Speaker 1: the actor that I am now ever since I was

790
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: a little kid. But I'd always told myself, I'm gonna

791
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna change for Hollywood. I'm not gonna bend

792
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: for Hollywood. I you know, genuinely. And I got down

793
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: into Hollywood and then my agent told me, she was like, listen,

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00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, every time I make a phone call on

795
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: your behalf, it's not always there's always a comment. It's

796
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: not always necessarily derogatory, but there's always a comment, and

797
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that. And so then

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00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: I thought and prayed on it real hard, and then

799
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: ultimately came to the same conclusion, which was, if I

800
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: just augmented my full name, I can still be me.

801
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: I'm not changing who I am, but I'm rebranding if

802
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 1: you will, you know, within the confines of my actual names. Well,

803
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: I have two guys in the back who were Jewish,

804
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: and I had to break the news to them that

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00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: I didn't think you were Jewish, and they go, wait,

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Speaker 1: his name is zach LEVI can you confirm or deny

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Speaker 1: that you're Jewish. I am not a Jew but I

808
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: but I am an honorary member of the tribe. Let

809
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Speaker 1: me tell you, I've read the Child's role at eight

810
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: half a dozen times, almost all of my representation or

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Speaker 1: josh uh no, I mean, listen, it is definitely something

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00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: that a lot of people confuse I have. I have

813
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: broken the hearts of so many Jewish mothers who were

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00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: so happy to see me in the marvelous Missus Mazel

815
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: and were sliding into my dms literally like these Jewish

816
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: moms like, have I got the girl for you? And

817
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: then they would then message me later after finding out

818
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: the news, after having you know, searched at googled it online,

819
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: They're like, oh my my heart is broken, but you're

820
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: still invited over for dinner. I'm like, okay, all right,

821
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Speaker 1: So you get the script for the Kurt Warner's story.

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Speaker 1: What did you know about him prior to I mean,

823
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: you know, I knew a good bit, or rather I

824
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: knew what let's say, most of us who were watching

825
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: that story to go down in real time new and

826
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Speaker 1: there was a good bit in there. I mean, the

827
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Speaker 1: bullet points were pretty profound. I mean, that's why all

828
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Speaker 1: of us were so impressed by what we were witnessing.

829
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there was this incredible Cinderella story obviously of

830
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Speaker 1: this guy who essentially comes out of nowhere, uh, and

831
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: that they rally around and play good football. They literally

832
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: did just that. And then you know that, you know,

833
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: um against the this this story that was coming out

834
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: of he was you know, stocking shelves in a grocery

835
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Speaker 1: store not too long before that. And also, you know,

836
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: being a person of faith and seeing his faith kind

837
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: of manifest in that moment, and that was very cool

838
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: and connective. So I knew a lot of those bits,

839
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: but like most of us, I didn't know the real

840
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: underlying foundation and and and and journey and ups and

841
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: downs and struggles that he and Brenda and the kids

842
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: all kind of went through in order to get to

843
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: that place. And and really, ultimately, you know, I think

844
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Speaker 1: that that's what makes it all, gives it all meaning,

845
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: it gives it all purpose again, It's what gave Kurt

846
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: purpose more than just this football, this dream he was

847
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: chasing after he found something that was even more worthy

848
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: of his love, even more worthy of his uh you know,

849
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: attention and focus and low and behold. He then goes

850
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: and values this and beautiful things, beautiful woman and her

851
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: and her and her children and the relationship, and then

852
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: all of this dream that he had his whole life

853
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: starts to reveal itself and then in such an incredible way.

854
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: And I think all of those things are very much intertwined.

855
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: It's why it all makes it, you know, not just special,

856
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: but also infinitely relatable. I think all of us have

857
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: had these moments in our lives, no matter where we've been,

858
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: where we have our supermarket moment. I mean, I worked

859
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: at a car wash for a year and a half,

860
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: just trying to be sitting in the seat right now

861
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: talking to you. You know, it's this character building stuff. Also,

862
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: I think everybody's had their version of scraping change out

863
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: of their car doors to put gas in their tank.

864
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: You know, those are the types of things I didn't know.

865
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know that about Kurt or Brenda or any

866
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: of that, but it's what resonated with me the most

867
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, but you worked at a shirtless car wash.

868
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: I think people should understand that, Like, I mean, come on,

869
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: you gotta give the people what they want, Dan, But

870
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: do you get shoes? How often do you get Hey, shoo,

871
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: Sam Oh, I mean a good bit. I get. I get, Hey, Chuck,

872
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: I did this TV show Chuck Along to Time ago.

873
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: Some people recognize me from that. A lot of people

874
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: recognize me from Shazam. I'm sure now moving forward, there

875
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: maybe even some people that yellow you know, what's what's up,

876
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: fake Kurt or whatever? I don't know, you Szam to

877
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: a Halloween party? Say what have you gone to Shazam

878
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: to a Halloween No? No, that I mean listen, you know,

879
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: maybe if it was a prank that we had set up.

880
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: But that's like, you know, they're you know, like how

881
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: you don't wear the band shirt to the concert. That's

882
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: like the band wearing the band shirts to the band's

883
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: own concert. Like they can't. I just can't do that. Uh.

884
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: There's the bagging the groceries thing that I think everybody

885
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: thinks of when they think of Kurt Warner with the

886
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, the journey there. I love the uh the

887
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: story he told this about ten years ago to us

888
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: that he got bit by a spider on his honeymoon.

889
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it affected his tryout with the Bears

890
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: and the Bears Yeah yeah, he told me that story.

891
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: I was like this is crazy. I mean again, all

892
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: the different ways that his journey, his life could have gone.

893
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: You know, what, what if what if he actually was

894
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: able to step up in that moment when he when

895
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: he had to look with the Packers, you know, maybe

896
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: they kept him on as a third stringer. I mean,

897
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: what if he was behind fire for all those years

898
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: and never would have got any play, and all of

899
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: a sudden because he didn't end up with the Packers,

900
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: he ends up and then almost gets a shot with

901
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: the Bears and doesn't, and then is with the Rams,

902
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: and then he's sitting there and he's waiting, you know,

903
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: he's biting his time, and he's and he's waiting for

904
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: his moments. And then that was insane, Zach. If he

905
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: went to the Bears, there would have been no Kurt

906
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: Warner movie, just letting you know, yeah, there wouldn't well,

907
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: there'd be no Super Bowls, there'd be no Hall of Fame.

908
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: It's about the Bears, not Kurt. That they would have

909
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: probably ended quickly. And yeah, yeah, and you those are

910
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: those are some thin years for Chicago. We're still in

911
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: some thin years for Chicago unfortunately. Okay, more important to

912
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: look like Kurt Warner, act like Kurt Warner, or to

913
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 1: throw like Kurt Warner. The simple answer is yes, all

914
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: of the above. I don't know. I mean, look, obviously,

915
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: I think you know, part of part of you're as

916
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: an actor, part of your initial ability to be believable

917
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: to an audiences. Do you even look anywhere close to

918
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: who this person is. I feel like we did that

919
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: pretty good. I feel like, um, I feel like Kurt

920
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: and I particularly the more we've even got to know

921
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: each other, the more we realized that while we are

922
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: obviously still very different people, we we have a lot

923
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: of similar DNA. We share a lot of similar things

924
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: and how we see the world and interact with the world,

925
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: and how we want to treat people and the things

926
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: we care about. And so that really was helpful and

927
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: kind of finding his essence and absorbing kind of more

928
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: of who he was. And then, you know, I was

929
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have a great quarterback coach and my

930
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: friend Clinton Dolazelle, who also played some you know, obviously

931
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: college played Arena against Kurt and then actually got drafted

932
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: by the Bears and was there for a hot second.

933
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: Did not have the storied career that Kurt had, but

934
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: I had about two months of this quarterback you know

935
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: crash course, and really did everything I could to not

936
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: just you know, obviously, you know, try to throw as

937
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: as good a ball as I could throw, and I do.

938
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I got down. I could throw some

939
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: dimes here and there, for sure, but really getting into

940
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: the headspace of what it means to be a quarterback

941
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: and really understand, you know, how to lead your team

942
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: in the huddle under center, read your read your receivers

943
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: in their coverage, you know, trying not to telegraph to

944
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: the coverage which receiver you're trying to throw to. Um.

945
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: All of that stuff is very pertinent if you're trying

946
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: to bring a sports movie as realistically as you can

947
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: to an audience. And I and I feel like with

948
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: all of that done, and look, I mean I also

949
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: had incredible doubles who played a lot of football growing

950
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: up and could throw dimes far more consistently than me

951
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: and took like I took some hits, but I took

952
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: the hits that I could take where I wouldn't break,

953
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't not be able to continue doing you know,

954
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: shooting the film. And I had you know, a double

955
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: that like literally his whole job was like, all right,

956
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: but you're going in and linebacker Boom just taking him out.

957
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: So so it's a it's a it takes a village,

958
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, to bring it all to life, but all

959
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: the pieces are there. Your favorite sports movie is what?

960
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Oh man? Um, you know, I honestly, I think Field

961
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: of Dreams. It is probably my favorite sports movie. It's

962
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: not my favorite real live sports movie. Uh, but it's

963
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: I think all in all, I just there's something about

964
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: it that's just so profound and uh and I love

965
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: like it's one of Costner's best roles, and um, you know,

966
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's this wonderful. Hey, congrats, great

967
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: to talk to you. We appreciate you joining us and

968
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: let's do it again. Thank you, Dan as a pleasure

969
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: to meet you, man,