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Speaker 1: From the berkshears to the sound from wherever you live

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Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give

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Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop

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Speaker 1: on Major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: voter number seventy Rob Parker.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the podcast. I'm your host, Rob Parker. We

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Speaker 2: come out of the All Star break. I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 2: you all about my trip to Seattle and the Midsummer Classic.

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Speaker 2: Plus longtime baseball writer and now author Tim.

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Speaker 3: Brown stops fi. He has a new book about the

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Speaker 3: life of a backup catcher. Very interesting.

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Speaker 2: He also had some baseball takes stick and stay inside

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Speaker 2: the Parker starts now.

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Speaker 1: Better to lead off it's getting robbed and keep them on.

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Speaker 1: Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories in Major

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Speaker 2: Number one, man own Man, What a great time I

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Speaker 2: had out at the All Star Game in Seattle, and

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Speaker 2: Seattle put on a show. I know Seattle still looking

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Speaker 2: for its first World Series championship, but I'll tell you this, it.

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Speaker 3: Is a base ball town.

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Speaker 2: And the buzz there and the fans and the faithful.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I really enjoyed myself started off Sunday at

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Speaker 2: the Players Alliance party at Pier seventy downtown, right on

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Speaker 2: A lot of former players are there. Dave Simms, the

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Speaker 2: television play by play guy, he was honored and it

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Speaker 2: was just a spectacular night. The commissioner, Rob Manford showed up.

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Speaker 2: Ken Griffy Senior was there. I could just go on

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Speaker 2: and Oncito gast In, the former Toronto Blue Jays manager

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Speaker 3: He was there, and just the slew of other people.

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Speaker 2: Eric Davis, who played for the Reds, and when Jackson

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Speaker 2: the pitcher once pitched a no hitter with one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty nine pitches. If you could believe that he

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Speaker 2: and on and on. It was a who's whose list.

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Speaker 2: It was a great night and the derby was great.

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Speaker 2: The ballpark is great. The roof was open. It was

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Speaker 2: a little chilly when we got there, but it warmed

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Speaker 3: Crowd was into it. The derby was great.

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Speaker 2: Julio Rodriguez is my god, what a fan favorite he

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Speaker 2: is for the Mariners.

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Speaker 3: They got their longtime star.

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Speaker 2: He loves Seattle, and Seattle loves him, and the fans

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Speaker 2: were just channing him and going crazy at over forty

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Speaker 3: And then they All Star Game. It was spectacular, a

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Speaker 2: It was about three hours long, and the National League

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Speaker 2: finally got a win. My god, the American League dominated

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Speaker 2: the National League for a long time. And Craig Kimberl

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Speaker 2: game with two runners on base. So what had a

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Speaker 2: and hats off to Seattle for doing a magnificent job

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Speaker 2: on the All Star Game. Next year we're going to Arlington,

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Speaker 3: But we'll be down there for the All Star Game

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Speaker 3: next July in twenty twenty four. Number two.

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Speaker 2: As we get closer and closer to the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna start hearing names of big players out there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe when their teams fall out of it and teams

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Speaker 2: And you know what, there he was Derek Jeter, who's

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Speaker 2: now a TV star. Ran into Derek Jeter at the

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Speaker 2: All Star Game yesterday. This is no Lie And he

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Speaker 2: used to call me, Hey, TV star. That's who used

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Speaker 3: No lie, that was his like a TV star.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday he was up there on the platform for

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Speaker 2: But anyway, there's Jeter talking about the Yankee shit. Go

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Speaker 2: after one Soto because the Padres, you know, like you

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Speaker 2: You Knowjan Sodo still has to be paid. You paid Manny,

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Speaker 3: So this is this might be somebody to look at.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting that Jita would throw that out there

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Speaker 3: The other guy is Nolan Aernato in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals are eleven and a half games out to start

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Speaker 2: the Yankees can make a deal there. That's another name

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Speaker 3: Number three.

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Speaker 2: Everybody in Baseball America knows the name Ellie dela Cruz, Yes,

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Speaker 2: because he's been a firestorm for those Cincinnati red Legs

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Speaker 2: and things have turned around.

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Speaker 2: Last year, the Reds were thirty four fifty seven en

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Speaker 2: Ellie de la Cruz shows up. They got some young

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Speaker 2: But now they're fifty and forty one, one game ahead

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Speaker 3: So the Reds there, are they gonna win the division?

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Speaker 3: They're gonna come out of nowhere, one hundred lost team

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Speaker 2: Normally doesn't happen, and these guys wind up slipping back

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. So the Cincinnati Reds. Can

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Speaker 2: a strong second half? If I'm betting my money, I

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Speaker 3: But I want to see it for myself.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the pocket protector centrum. The analytic numbers

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Speaker 1: you need to know?

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe Anthony Masterson is his name, BS analytics is

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Speaker 3: What do you got for me, Anthony?

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Speaker 4: The first half is coming gone and with it some

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Speaker 4: historical first half performances. The Marlinslise Arise posted a first

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Speaker 4: That number would be the second best in the last

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Speaker 4: Barry Bonds, who stole fifty two bags while hitting thirty

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Speaker 4: three home runs. In nineteen ninety. Arizona's Corbyn Carrol became

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Speaker 4: of two things. Now he could single handedly will the

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Speaker 1: When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto,

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Speaker 1: if I'm writing, I'm ripping. Let's bring in a writer

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Speaker 1: or broadcaster, old or new.

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Speaker 3: Now let's welcome into the podcast.

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Speaker 2: A longtime friend of mine, one of the best baseball

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Speaker 2: writers in the game. Longtime baseball writer, now an author.

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Speaker 2: He has a spectacular new book out. And first let

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Speaker 2: me say what's up, Brownie? Tim Brown? How you doing,

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Speaker 2: Buddy Parkway?

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Speaker 5: I am so good, man, I'm so good. It's great

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Speaker 5: to see you again.

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Speaker 3: Been too long, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: So many years we spent chowing down talking ball at

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Speaker 2: this is the camaraderie people don't understand. When you're a

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Speaker 3: What you do. So we all kind of, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know nobody, Tim, you know this as far as friends,

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Speaker 2: we've eaten dinner Moore.

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Speaker 5: Well, you get to know people from the other papers

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Speaker 2: No doubt, and you get to know people. And that's

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Speaker 2: what we've known. So, Tim, tell me tell me about

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Speaker 2: this book. I'm just gonna let you jump in on

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Speaker 2: me the title in the background, because all right.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested in life about a backup, about being a

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Yeah, so, Parkway, you've been enough clubhouses to

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Speaker 5: that's the backup catcher. They're usually a little bit older,

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Speaker 2: And it's the towel of the backup catcher playing baseball

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Speaker 2: You know what, it makes total sense and one of

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Speaker 3: And that's why I brought it up. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: There's a big event going on, but there's somebody who

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why this book makes sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Uh. I noticed is a hard question, who's the best

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Speaker 3: Uh you know who.

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Speaker 5: If you could tell me who got the most out

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Speaker 2: I guess we're talking with Tim Brown Brownie as I

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Speaker 5: Right, And then they just stopped enforcing it, right, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You know, And I find myself as I get older,

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Speaker 5: there was too much standing around, man, There was too

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Speaker 2: Eight pitching changes in an inning. Tim, You know like,

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Speaker 2: This guy's got to warm up. We gotta sit thereway

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Speaker 2: put it. He pitches to one batter, Bring this guy.

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Speaker 2: It was ridiculous, really slowed down the game.

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Speaker 5: And you know what I think they ought to do

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Speaker 5: what are we doing here? It's a six run game,

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Speaker 5: stop it right? But for me, the three batter I

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Speaker 5: don't like things at screw with strategy. It's okay if

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Speaker 5: that doesn't really impact strategy. But the three batter min

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Speaker 5: room impact strategy. And now that you've shortened the game

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Speaker 3: I like that. I like that thought.

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Speaker 2: Tim Brown as a guest, longtime baseball writer and author.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you you covered other California for a

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Speaker 3: That was the takeaway. We know that the Angels haven't

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Speaker 3: World Series. If you're the Angels, Tim, can you allow

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Speaker 3: let him walk? What should you?

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Speaker 2: Seriously as a trade deadline approaches, think about moving him

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Speaker 2: not good.

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Speaker 3: What would you do if you're a GM.

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Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't not trade him because I don't want

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Speaker 5: to be the guy who trades the best player. Ever.

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Speaker 5: That's a terrible, terrible reason not to trade him. I

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Speaker 5: think if you don't trade him, you have seven and

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Speaker 5: fifty dollars sitting there, cooling off, getting ready, keeping that

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Speaker 5: powder dry. So if you don't, and if your heart's

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Speaker 5: not in it and your pocket's not in it your

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Speaker 5: while it's not in it, then you ought to trade him, because.

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Speaker 3: You know it's it.

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Speaker 5: Nothing has worked here, man, nothing has worked. It's been

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Speaker 5: too long. And I think, you know, I hate the

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Speaker 5: notion that he's going to have to go somewhere else

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Speaker 5: to win, but that seems to be the case. And

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, I mean, Artie's not an idiot.

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Speaker 5: I think that if he doesn't trade him and all

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Speaker 5: you get back for Shoho Tani is some raggedy ass

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Speaker 5: draft pick, that's that's bad, that's terrible. You better, you

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Speaker 5: better win that free agent contest.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no doubt about it. That's something that they

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Speaker 3: really have to think about, just your gut.

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Speaker 2: One more thing on Otani? Uh does he want it

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Speaker 2: with the Dodgers. I mean, it's just logical. You were

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Speaker 2: in that market already. You don't have to move, and

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Speaker 2: overnight you go from the outhouse to the penthouse, so

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Speaker 2: to speak in baseball, and and maybe they give you

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Speaker 2: five or six hundred million dollars in Los Angeles and

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Speaker 2: you become not that you're not a big star already,

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Speaker 2: but you're on a different plateau, in a different stage.

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Speaker 2: If you if you're playing in Los Angeles rather than Anahem.

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Speaker 5: I mean that seems to be the obvious thing, right.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't showy Otani. I don't think he's

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Speaker 5: given a one on one interview. So it's been really

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Speaker 5: hard to get to know you. It's hard to know

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Speaker 5: what's in his heart, and you have to sort of

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Speaker 5: parse what he says and doesn't say. It's it's tough,

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Speaker 5: but you know, there was a reason he picked the

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Speaker 5: Angels to begin with, and part of that had to

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Speaker 5: be proximity to.

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Speaker 3: Japan, right yep.

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Speaker 5: And now that the DH another big part was he

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Speaker 5: wanted a d H team. DH is everywhere now, so

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers would provide that as well the winning. He

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Speaker 5: sees how that organization runs up close from where he is.

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Speaker 5: It makes sense to me. But you know, I think

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Speaker 5: show Antony, the best player in history in free agency

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Speaker 5: at the richest time in baseball history, is going to

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Speaker 5: be something to watch.

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Speaker 2: No, there's no doubt about it. He's been tremendous. Tim Uh,

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Speaker 2: one more time, Please tell us about the book. How

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Speaker 2: people can get your book.

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Speaker 3: I consider and talk to you all day, and I

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Speaker 3: know your voice is a little strip. There no insight.

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Speaker 3: I'm through as always, you know that.

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Speaker 5: For years up. I'm strong on you, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I know, come on, hello, Dolly, can I hear it? Hello?

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Speaker 5: Uh? You know I It's called the towel, the backup catcher.

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Speaker 5: You can get it wherever books are sold. I'm proud

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Speaker 5: of it because I think there's a you know, I've

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Speaker 5: I've done a couple of books in the past that

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Speaker 5: I'm also very proud of that that we're New York

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Speaker 5: Times bestsellers. But this this one hits different for me

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Speaker 5: because I think it represents some of what I try

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Speaker 5: to represent. It's uh it, I think it reflects where

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Speaker 5: my passion for the game is, for the guys who

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Speaker 5: have to struggle, and for the people in the world

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Speaker 5: who have to struggle, the people who you know, feel

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Speaker 5: like backup catchers themselves. Teachers, nurses first responded, you know,

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Speaker 5: like everyone out in the world who feels like, well,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm not in the lineup today, I'm not

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Speaker 5: in the box score. But there are there are ways

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Speaker 5: to contribute, and they're they're you know, we're all on

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Speaker 5: this journey, and you get to decide who you want

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Speaker 5: to be on this journey and who you want to

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Speaker 5: be at four, and I think this book maybe.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I hope people get a little of that out of it.

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Speaker 5: I know I did in writing it.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to read it. Brownie is my man,

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Speaker 3: Tim brown Man. Pick it up, check it out.

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Speaker 2: Brownie will get you back on down the road before

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Speaker 2: the season ends. That voice will be cleared up and

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Speaker 2: we'll get more of your baseball knowledge.

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Speaker 5: I hope, man, I hope it's great seeing your brother

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Speaker 5: all ways.

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Speaker 3: You know that. Stay well, Brownie, Thank you, my man.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Keep it, keep it going, now, bring in

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Speaker 3: the closer.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Here's why MLB is better than the NFL or NBA,

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Speaker 1: and it isn't even close.

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Speaker 2: Reason number one, thy and fifteen. While Major League Baseball is.

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Speaker 3: Better than the NBA and better than the NFL, we

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Speaker 3: saw it on Tuesday at the All Star Game. Did

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Speaker 3: you see that spectacle? This wasn't like the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 3: and nobody cares and what nobody's This was baseball, just

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Speaker 3: like we're always used to seeing it. The fans were

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Speaker 3: into it, and it wasn't. It was a Seattle crowd.

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Speaker 2: The game was in Seattle, but there was enough of

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Speaker 2: other fans who came into Seattle to take part to

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Speaker 2: see their guys. Everyone was represented, every team, despite how

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Speaker 2: good or bad their team has been this year. And

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Speaker 2: it's a party. And you know what, we were missing

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Speaker 2: some big stars in baseball from injury, Mike Trout, Aaron Judge,

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Speaker 2: just to mention a couple, and those are big. That's

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Speaker 2: a big couple. Those you guys were voted starters in

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Speaker 2: the American League. But still, somehow, some way, people got

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Speaker 2: a good feel about the game and enjoyed themselves. And

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Speaker 2: the other part is Baseball always still likes to have

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Speaker 2: the fans involved. They get to vote for the starters

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Speaker 2: of the All Star I hope they never take that

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Speaker 2: away from the fans.

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Speaker 3: It's their game.

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Speaker 2: Other leagues they're so caught up on doing what's right

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Speaker 2: or let mean, let's do the numbers, crunch the numbers,

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Speaker 2: let the fans decide who they want to see. I

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Speaker 2: always remember as a kid someone telling me that the

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Speaker 2: fans would rather see Reggie Jackson strike out three times,

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Speaker 2: then Jim Rice hit three home runs, And that made

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Speaker 2: sense to me.

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Speaker 3: It makes sense, it really does, and that's why the

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Speaker 3: All Star Game is still special.

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Speaker 2: In the words of New York TV, legend the late

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Speaker 2: Bill Jorgensen. Thanking you for your time this time until

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Speaker 2: next time. Rob Parker out d can't Davin? This could

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Speaker 2: be an inside of Parker.

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Speaker 1: See you next week, same bat time, same batt station,