WEBVTT - #653 Packers Unscripted: Extra credit 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:11.040 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.240 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is the 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.799 one and only West had Koitz for coming to you 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.560 here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. We're 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:24.200 going to review the draft class a little bit more, 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.480 continuing our discussion from our previous show. But before we 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:32.440 get to that, we have to talk about London. My friend. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.879 It is official now the day to the opponent, it 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.360 has all been set. It is week five, October nine. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.600 The Packers will be facing the New York Football Giants 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:51.320 at Tottenham Motspur over in London. The Packers becoming the 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:56.640 last NFL team to play a regular season international game. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.880 Another barrier broken here for the Green Bay Packers Football 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.400 Club Incorporated. Huge barrier, Mike. I remember when I started 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:10.600 covering the team in two thousand twelve. I the first year. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:11.800 I don't know if you remember how they used to 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.319 do the who is going to play International series games 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.200 back in the day. But they used to announce them 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.319 like either was during the season or something like that 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.840 for the upcoming for the following year. It wasn't like 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.319 how this went down. I remember one time I was 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.240 sitting in our office at the Press Gazette and I 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.400 was actually like on my computer and I don't know 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.520 if it was Pete Doherty or if it was robbed Amovsky, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.399 but somebody noticed me, like I'm like monitoring, like, okay, 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.760 three three pm, the NFL is going to announce the 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.679 International Series games. And I'm actually kind of on my 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.240 seat a little bit, like, Hey, is this gonna happen? 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.120 Is the Packers gonna go? With the Packers gonna go? 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:45.720 And I can't, I don't. I wish I could remember 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:47.720 if it was Peter rob But they literally just looked 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.000 at me like I was wearing sixteen pairs of eyeglasses 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.680 and and they're like, now they're not going. I'm like, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.120 how can you be so sure? Because and then it 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.040 got into all the reasons that you know about what 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.279 the Packers aren't gonna get the home game. The NFL 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.680 is not going to make another team give that game up, 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.560 so I'll be honest with you. For a while there, 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.440 I actually started to wonder when it would happen, if 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.160 it would happen, because it just seemed like the immovable option, 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:17.000 the immovable object in the Unstoppable Force here where teams 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:18.720 are not going to give up this game because it 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.200 means too much money. We thought, okay, well, if you're 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.720 if you're moving and you're relocating, then you have to 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.400 give it up. No, you can actually block one of them. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.720 So I kind of had given up hope. And as 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.280 it turns out with the seventeen game that there are 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.160 a dozen episodes of me with unscripted ripping on the 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:41.040 seventeen game. This is what opened up this opportunity. I've 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.440 long felt like this is something that needs to happen, 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.800 not for the Green Bay Packers, but for the National 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.119 Football League. They want to grow the game internationally. There 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.600 is no bigger brand, no more iconic brand in the 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.160 National Football League than the Green Bay Packers. And to 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.480 get them out there while Aaron Rodgers is still the 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.480 starting quarterback of this team, I thought that was essential. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.120 So I was thrilled to see this finally happen the 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.760 Giants and early morning game. In terms of the United States, 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.480 it's gonna be a really interesting festivity. And in a 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.000 game in which there's so much rudimentary no, it's so 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.880 much uh, you know, you just get in the same 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.040 rotation year after year, it's cool to have kind of 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.720 a new event coming. Yeah, absolutely, it's gonna be. It's 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.079 gonna be a very very interesting and exciting change of 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:29.040 pace in the middle of the two schedule. And we 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:34.040 all know from the communication we get an insider inbox 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.960 from the fans. I mean the number the number of 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.600 fans Packers fans in the UK in Europe in general, 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:44.000 they have been dying for this opportunity and there are 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.360 only what sixties sixty five thousand seats or something like 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.760 that at Tottenham Hotspur, So this is going to be 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:55.960 one Hotspur of a ticket with um It's it's not 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:57.720 going to be an easy one to get. Folks, we 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:59.880 know that, But who was that? Did you read through 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.280 in the insider in box submissions? I mean people talking 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.360 about how they've been life there. They're fifty years old 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.960 Packers fans. Yeah, they've never had an opportunity to come 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:09.840 to the States. They wake up at four o'clock in 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.240 the morning to watch these games. Yeah yeah whatever, one am, 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.360 two am, whatever time zone they're in over there in Europe, 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.520 they've been uh yeah, they they do whatever it takes 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.800 to be able to watch the Packers live whenever they can. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.279 In the middle of the night, and now the Packers 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.520 are actually going to be playing over there. I have 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.360 to say, though I got a kick out of there 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.240 was a story I guess it was last week that 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.320 seemed to get started to get a little bit of 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:38.880 legs um with regard to the Rams apparently saying that 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.120 they were going to volunteer to be the Packers opponent 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:46.159 over in England and that maybe the NFL was going 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.560 to sa and and I was just like, I was 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.120 like the fact that that story got any traction whatsoever, 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.720 the NFL let alone the Packers letting that game move. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.960 The NFL was not gonna put the Green Bay Packers 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.080 against the defending Super Bowl champions at eight thirty in 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.000 the morning on a Sunday in early October, Like that 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.359 was just not That was just not going to happen. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.760 So I didn't understand. I had said an insider Inbox 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.960 weeks months ago that that it looked like it would 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.160 need to be the Jets or the Giants as far 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.760 as the opponent that would be the home game for 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:24.920 the Packers, the ninth home game that would that would 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.160 be moved overseas. It did turn out to be the Giants, 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.080 and now we do have the we do have the date. Interestingly, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:35.400 the week right before that, October two, the Vikings NFC 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:39.839 North rival are going. We'll be playing um over in 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.720 uh the UK as well. So some interesting uh um, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:48.880 interesting happenings uh coming up here. Before we get back 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.080 to some questions with regard to the Packers draft class, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.919 I'll take care of some sponsor business. 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Which draft pick do you 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:41.040 see making the biggest impact as a rookie on the 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:45.680 Packers two season. I'm gonna go with kay Walker here. 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.359 That's kind of a really big, you know, kind of 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.760 cop out, you know, considering he's the overall pick, he's 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.440 the first rounder. But I just feel last year I 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.880 was completely taken him back, just complete, complete surprise at 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:05.120 how often the Packers implemented two inside backers on the field. Um. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.280 I knew it wasn't gonna be Mike Petton's defense. I 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.800 knew Joe Berry was going to utilize that position more 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:15.000 specifically in the Nickel package, but he really like they 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.720 played a lot. Chris Barnes and Devandre Campbell played a lot. 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:22.559 And I think that the opportunity, the foundation in terms 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.760 of the defense and what's going to be expected. There's 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.200 a there's a catalyst and a sort of a path 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:33.520 I think for for Walker to play. And the reason 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.080 I say that as Devondre Campbell now has this defense 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.080 down cold, he's the shot caller out there. This is 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:42.280 the guy that's running things, He's running the show. And 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.800 you saw how many different guys stepped in with Campbell 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.240 last year. You know, Chris Barnes played quite a bit, 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.040 especially in the rundown packages, but they rotated oron Burke's 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.880 in there, we had, you know, um Jalen Smith came 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.000 in for a couple of weeks. I mean, they went 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.600 through a lot of different guys at that position, Ty Summers, 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.400 and yet it was still Campbell calling the shots and 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.280 making all the pieces fit. So in that regard, I 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.880 think there's there's a really good opportunity for Walker to 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.160 get comfortable in this defense without having to be the 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.520 man so to speak, but still to be a playmaker. Uh, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.520 he's gonna have to work for it. Chris Barnes is 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.280 a is a proven vet. Now he's done this for 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.160 two years. I've written about it a number of times. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.520 A hundred and sixty tackles on less than a thousand career, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.560 snaps the guys constantly around the football, and is going 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.160 to want to still compete to be a starter in 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.280 this defense with Walker, there's just at six ft three pounds, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.199 there's so many ways Green Bay can utilize them. We 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.559 may see some four three packages. We saw a couple 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.960 of those last year. I just feel like the path 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:38.400 is there for that young man to be able to 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.080 make a year one impact. I like that. I like 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.360 that selection and as much as I would like to say, 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.440 and I do think it would be, it would be 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:52.040 extremely beneficial to the Packers quite frankly if Christian Watson 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:56.360 is the rookie that makes the biggest impact, because I 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:01.000 expect Al Lazard and Randall Cobb in particular to be 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.320 able to produce in this offense with their relationship with 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.080 Aaron Rodgers. Of christ if we're talking about a major 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.080 rookie impact from Christian Watson, that's going to be a 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.280 sign that he and Aaron Rodgers have gotten on the 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.320 same page fairly quickly, fairly smoothly. Um, I think that 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.160 could be a huge thing for this Packers offense. But 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.040 I hesitate to say that just because of those guys 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:27.360 like Lazard and Cobb and possibly Sammy Watkins UM in 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.040 that receiver room. So I'm gonna go with Vante Wyatt, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.760 and this is why I'm going to say that, Um. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.280 He certainly gives the Packers a big rotational piece on 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.800 that defensive line. Kenny Clark and Dean Lowry be in 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.920 those two, those two veterans stalwarts that you have there. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.880 But I can see a lot of potential third downs 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.960 with this defense where the four man rush that you'd 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:54.840 like to get home with four right, so you don't 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.080 have to blitz, you don't have to compromise your coverage. 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.440 The four man rushes Preston Smith and Rashaun Area on 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.800 the edges and Kenny Clark and Devonte Wyatt on the inside. Now, 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.079 when three of the other four are Rashawn Gary, Preston Smith, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:12.000 and Kenny Clark, chances are Devonte Wyatt is going to 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.640 be blocked one on one right, He's going to be 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.800 singled up way more often than not. And I just 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.760 I think, I think potentially in this in this third 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.640 down defense, if Joe Barry doesn't doesn't want to, doesn't 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.360 need to go crazy with the blitz, is that a 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:27.960 guy like why, it could get a lot done. And 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.160 you remember the end of last season when they started 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.040 using some of those double A gap pressures too with 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.240 Campbell even you know Kevin King was kind of using 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.600 some of that as well near the end of the season. Yeah, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:43.199 they started stressing all points, all gaps on the offensive line, 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.360 and I really see that with this group. It's such 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.800 an evinly balanced group. Certainly, you know, Preston Smith is 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.679 the high earning guy. You know, a guy that's been 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.600 doing this for eight nine years now. Kenny Clark has 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.720 been a two Pro Bowl. So the areas of emphasis 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.839 are still going to be there, But there's a lot 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.000 of different ways that they can really test that chain 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.040 and try to find the weakest link. And White fits 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.200 into that perfectly. Yeah. But I will say also going 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.400 back to your point and talking about Walker, Walker maybe 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.040 is a guy that Joe Barry decides to cut loose 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.000 on third downs. You just look at the video from 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.679 the National Championship game against Alabama Kuway. Walker had six 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.280 quarterback pressures in that game as an off the ball linebacker, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.440 and he was he was turned loose in the pass 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.480 rush for all the marbles in college football, and and 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.800 and he delivered a big time performance. And to mention 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.520 one thing about Watson too, you know, I'm not expecting 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.520 this young man to come in and completely run the 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.600 row tree and know everything where he's supposed to be 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.920 at all times with Aaron Rodgers. But one thing that 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.800 really gets lost in that that two thousand eighteen season 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.400 that I know a lot of people want to forget 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.560 was the fact of how impactful Marcos Velda Scantling was 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.360 in a limited capacity as a rookie. I mean, his 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:53.160 home run potential, it showed right from the start. Um 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.679 Now a little bit more veteran player, a guy that 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.040 was basically used that way at USF fit well into 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.400 that capacity. By I think it just does go to 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.640 show you that Watson can be a player. He can 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.240 do certain things in this offense right off the bat. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.559 It's just going to be the larger entree, I think 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.520 is going to be the question, because again it's a 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.640 huge playbook and there's a lot of guys coming in 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:14.880 trying to figure out exactly where they fit into the 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:19.080 whole equation. All right, next question, Packers had four seventh 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.600 round draft picks, which is a lot, and you don't. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:26.320 Packers haven't haven't had that volume of picks late in 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.800 the draft in a long time, and and we're always 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.240 curious as to exactly how these guys are gonna work out. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.800 To you, of the four seventh round picks, who's the 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.520 most intriguing guy. I've talked a lot about two ra 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.440 and I've talked a lot about Carpenter, and I could 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.520 talk more about them now, and maybe I'll give you 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.120 the opportunity to talk about one of these guys here 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.679 in a second. But I do want to put some 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.640 some shine onto Rashid Walker because the thing was Mike 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.400 we were talking about this. I went back and looked, 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.800 you know, I always like to look at I don't 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.000 care about what people are mocking for next year. People 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.120 always like to do their way too early mock drafts 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.160 for next year. They're rarely correct. I mean the whole 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.360 kid was like mocked as a top ten pick. I 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.240 think he went like towards the back end of it, 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.280 the quarterback from from North Carolina. But Walker was a 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.440 guy that some people had as a first round pick 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.360 for going back to last year's after the draft, going 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.040 into this year and the nothing's changed with this guy. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.440 I mean, he had to battle some injuries and there 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.120 might be some things that I think people might have 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.319 perseverated on as far as his makeup. But he's still 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.960 a guy that started thirty two games at left tackle 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.240 for Penn State, a competitive Big ten team, and has 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.560 a lot of experience to lean back on. I think 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.760 that he's going to be a really when you're talking 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.440 about trying to find guys in the seventh round, Elliot 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.400 Wolf used to talk about it, you're looking for trades. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.760 You're looking for an attribute, You're looking for something that 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.800 stands out to me. I think there's a lot that 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.560 stands out with Walker. It's just a matter of can 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.360 they just get him in here. Forget about the injuries, 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.640 forget about everything else. Just treat him like every other 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.360 prospect and see if he might have something there. Because 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.240 if you can mind and the third day left tackle 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.640 prospect or right tackle prospect, that can be a major hit. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.720 The Packers have had so much success on that third 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:14.280 day unearthing incredible athletes. Uh. And I feel like you 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.720 know when you when you look at Walker's makeup. This 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.800 guy has a lot to offer from a prospect standpoint 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.520 and a recruit standpoint. I'm excited to see him in 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.000 a Packers uniform. Yeah, it's interesting that your answer to 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.080 this question was Walker, because I was going to I 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.560 was going to test your knowledge your trivia a little bit. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.160 I mentioned the Packers took four players in the seventh 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.080 round back when, if I'm doing my math right, you 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:40.400 were somewhere in junior high. The Packers had five seventh 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.240 round picks one year, and one of those guys is 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.880 in the Packers Hall of Fame. Marco Overa, No, No, 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:53.480 I'd have been too young. Um Mark Tow Sorry yet? 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.280 What markus? Seventh round pick who's now in the Packers 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.840 Hall of Fame. The Packers had five seventh round pick 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.720 that year that they drafted Mark Tosher. He was the 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:06.120 first of the five seventh round picks he ended up. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:08.600 If I'm not mistaken, it was week two of his 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.040 rookie year. Earl Dotson at right tackle gets injured. Tauscher 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.440 steps in basically, other than injuries of his own, held 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.000 the job at right tackling Green Bay for a decade, 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.880 and he's now a He's now a Packers Hall of Famer. Incredible, 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.520 incredible career, my seventh round pick. As far as most intriguing, 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.160 I'm gonna go with Trek Carpenter, and I say that 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:32.320 because of surprise, surprise, special teams six ft three thirty pounds. 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.080 I don't really care whether you want to call him 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.200 a safety or a linebacker. However that shakes itself out. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.000 But I go back to what we when we got 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.160 the first chance a few weeks ago to talk to 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:47.560 new special teams coordinator rich Rich Bisaccia, and he mentioned 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.720 in terms of how he likes to how he likes 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:54.200 to build his units. He talked about the his core, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:16:00.360 his foundation are is to find the six players on 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.200 your punt team, essentially your punk protection team. Aside from 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.240 your long snapper, aside from your punter, aside from your gunners. 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.040 You're six guys that sort of form the inner core 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.920 of that punt team. And those are the guys who 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:18.080 oftentimes become the regulars on all of the different special 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.640 teams units. And a guy like Carpenter, I know he's 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.320 a rookie and he's gonna have a lot to learn, 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.920 but he's gonna have a great teacher in in bisacci 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:29.480 to potentially learn all this stuff at sixty pounds. I 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.800 see him as as one of these guys, even as 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.760 a young player, who might be able to get a 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.280 job as one of those core six that Bisaccio was 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.520 talking about, and uh and make himself a regular on 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.640 special teams regardless of maybe where he fits on the 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.960 depth chart on the defensive side of the ball, If 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.560 you're six three in your two thirty and can run 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.200 the way he ran at his pro day, yeah, and 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.840 you can tackle like he tackled throughout his career at 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.800 Georgia Tech. There's gonna be a place for you in 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.240 the National Football League. It will don't be easy. It's 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.520 going to be a challenge. Especially it's never easy for 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.600 a rookie coming in. We talked so much about offensive 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.359 defense guys coming in as a rookies, it's not easy 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.400 to do that. And special teams either. I think sometimes 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.680 we take that for granted. They just think, well, he's 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.080 the bottom of the roster guy, he's number forty through 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.600 fifty three. He'll be great on special teams, and you 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.000 stop thinking about it. No, there's a transition there too. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.840 You have to understand all the terminology. You need to 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.520 be understand what's asked to you in all these specific units. 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.760 But it seems like Carpenter has a really good base 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.199 for it. Foundation and intelligent kid. Uh did you know 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.880 was one of the captains over there, you know, Georgia Tech. 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:35.840 He's a little bit more of a veteran side of things. 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.320 I just feel like Mike, there were so many people 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.760 that for years didn't fully appreciate Jared Bush and and 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.440 I was one of them that actually did. Because I'll 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.879 never forget the time that Joe Witt was talking to 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.960 us in the h R in the former Packers quarterbacks coach, 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.800 and he said the thing about Bush, take away all 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:54.480 the special team stuff, which is what he was known 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.639 for during his nine years here. He knows how to 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.240 play seven positions in the defense. He could have played 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.440 the mic line actor if they needed him to. Was 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.000 based on how things worked out. But what stood out 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:06.680 to me the most about it is that he was 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.199 always accountable to those spots. If he got thrown in there, 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.200 he was ready for it. And he was just such 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.680 a steady eddie on special teams as a gunner, as 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.480 a coverage guy. And you just you need to have 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.399 some of those guys because it's not just about what 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.200 that individual person does, it's about how that individual person 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.360 affects the rest of the unit. That's what Green Bay 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.080 needs right now. Well, it's it's it's it's neat that 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.480 you mentioned a guy mentioned a guy like Jared Bush. 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.080 I mean, I got to know JB pretty well covered 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.280 his entire career here, and of course they'll never forget him. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.960 Get you talk about learning all these spots on defense 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.960 and being accountable. He gets thrown in there in the 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.240 Super Bowl and he gets an interception of Ben Roethlisberger 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.000 in the Super Bowl when the Packers had all kinds 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:50.000 of injuries going on. But yes, a special teams was 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:54.960 first and foremost. Um what he did. Next question, what 0:18:55.160 --> 0:19:00.520 is the most interesting competition that has been created by 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.000 this draft class? You know exactly where I'm jumping here. 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.080 It's offensive line. It has to be. Uh. Nine offensive 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.640 linemens selected in the last three drafts, eight of which 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.880 are still in Green Bay right now. Obviously Simon Stepanek retired, 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:17.639 but eight guys in addition to David Batieri and Elton 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.159 Jenkins and all these other veterans that they've had in 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.320 there as well. That competition trying to figure out how 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.640 to set a starting five. It is a good problem 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.960 to have because I can't do it right now. It's difficult. 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.919 I mean yash Naiman the way he played last season, 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.080 and in the weird thing is Mike you you hope 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.399 there won't be injuries affecting this like last year. But 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.040 these things always have a way of working themselves out. 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.640 But it's worked out through competition. It's worked out through 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.600 training camp, it's worked out through preseason games, one on 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.840 one blocking drills. There's so many things that kind of 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:52.080 go into it and what Green Bay is gonna want 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.560 to do. And I can already tell you what you know. 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.399 Luke Buckus message is gonna be to his offensive lineman 0:19:57.440 --> 0:19:59.720 before the Week one game is okay, this is the 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.080 Star five are going with every single by everybody else 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:04.920 that's here on the fifty three. You've gotta be ready. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.879 And if you need any more evidence of that, throw 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.720 on the tape from last season so and even the 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:14.480 year before and the year before. Because Lucas Patrick has gone, 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.280 that's your backup center. That's a guy that's had a 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.960 lot of experience at the guard spots. Billy Turner's gone, 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.800