Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is the
Speaker 1: one and only West had Koitz for coming to you
Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. We're
Speaker 1: going to review the draft class a little bit more,
Speaker 1: continuing our discussion from our previous show. But before we
Speaker 1: get to that, we have to talk about London. My friend.
Speaker 1: It is official now the day to the opponent, it
Speaker 1: has all been set. It is week five, October nine.
Speaker 1: The Packers will be facing the New York Football Giants
Speaker 1: at Tottenham Motspur over in London. The Packers becoming the
Speaker 1: last NFL team to play a regular season international game.
Speaker 1: Another barrier broken here for the Green Bay Packers Football
Speaker 1: Club Incorporated. Huge barrier, Mike. I remember when I started
Speaker 1: covering the team in two thousand twelve. I the first year.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember how they used to
Speaker 1: do the who is going to play International series games
Speaker 1: back in the day. But they used to announce them
Speaker 1: like either was during the season or something like that
Speaker 1: for the upcoming for the following year. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: how this went down. I remember one time I was
Speaker 1: sitting in our office at the Press Gazette and I
Speaker 1: was actually like on my computer and I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was Pete Doherty or if it was robbed Amovsky,
Speaker 1: but somebody noticed me, like I'm like monitoring, like, okay,
Speaker 1: three three pm, the NFL is going to announce the
Speaker 1: International Series games. And I'm actually kind of on my
Speaker 1: seat a little bit, like, Hey, is this gonna happen?
Speaker 1: Is the Packers gonna go? With the Packers gonna go?
Speaker 1: And I can't, I don't. I wish I could remember
Speaker 1: if it was Peter rob But they literally just looked
Speaker 1: at me like I was wearing sixteen pairs of eyeglasses
Speaker 1: and and they're like, now they're not going. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how can you be so sure? Because and then it
Speaker 1: got into all the reasons that you know about what
Speaker 1: the Packers aren't gonna get the home game. The NFL
Speaker 1: is not going to make another team give that game up,
Speaker 1: so I'll be honest with you. For a while there,
Speaker 1: I actually started to wonder when it would happen, if
Speaker 1: it would happen, because it just seemed like the immovable option,
Speaker 1: the immovable object in the Unstoppable Force here where teams
Speaker 1: are not going to give up this game because it
Speaker 1: means too much money. We thought, okay, well, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're moving and you're relocating, then you have to
Speaker 1: give it up. No, you can actually block one of them.
Speaker 1: So I kind of had given up hope. And as
Speaker 1: it turns out with the seventeen game that there are
Speaker 1: a dozen episodes of me with unscripted ripping on the
Speaker 1: seventeen game. This is what opened up this opportunity. I've
Speaker 1: long felt like this is something that needs to happen,
Speaker 1: not for the Green Bay Packers, but for the National
Speaker 1: Football League. They want to grow the game internationally. There
Speaker 1: is no bigger brand, no more iconic brand in the
Speaker 1: National Football League than the Green Bay Packers. And to
Speaker 1: get them out there while Aaron Rodgers is still the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback of this team, I thought that was essential.
Speaker 1: So I was thrilled to see this finally happen the
Speaker 1: Giants and early morning game. In terms of the United States,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really interesting festivity. And in a
Speaker 1: game in which there's so much rudimentary no, it's so
Speaker 1: much uh, you know, you just get in the same
Speaker 1: rotation year after year, it's cool to have kind of
Speaker 1: a new event coming. Yeah, absolutely, it's gonna be. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a very very interesting and exciting change of
Speaker 1: pace in the middle of the two schedule. And we
Speaker 1: all know from the communication we get an insider inbox
Speaker 1: from the fans. I mean the number the number of
Speaker 1: fans Packers fans in the UK in Europe in general,
Speaker 1: they have been dying for this opportunity and there are
Speaker 1: only what sixties sixty five thousand seats or something like
Speaker 1: that at Tottenham Hotspur, So this is going to be
Speaker 1: one Hotspur of a ticket with um It's it's not
Speaker 1: going to be an easy one to get. Folks, we
Speaker 1: know that, But who was that? Did you read through
Speaker 1: in the insider in box submissions? I mean people talking
Speaker 1: about how they've been life there. They're fifty years old
Speaker 1: Packers fans. Yeah, they've never had an opportunity to come
Speaker 1: to the States. They wake up at four o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning to watch these games. Yeah yeah whatever, one am,
Speaker 1: two am, whatever time zone they're in over there in Europe,
Speaker 1: they've been uh yeah, they they do whatever it takes
Speaker 1: to be able to watch the Packers live whenever they can.
Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, and now the Packers
Speaker 1: are actually going to be playing over there. I have
Speaker 1: to say, though I got a kick out of there
Speaker 1: was a story I guess it was last week that
Speaker 1: seemed to get started to get a little bit of
Speaker 1: legs um with regard to the Rams apparently saying that
Speaker 1: they were going to volunteer to be the Packers opponent
Speaker 1: over in England and that maybe the NFL was going
Speaker 1: to sa and and I was just like, I was
Speaker 1: like the fact that that story got any traction whatsoever,
Speaker 1: the NFL let alone the Packers letting that game move.
Speaker 1: The NFL was not gonna put the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: against the defending Super Bowl champions at eight thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning on a Sunday in early October, Like that
Speaker 1: was just not That was just not going to happen.
Speaker 1: So I didn't understand. I had said an insider Inbox
Speaker 1: weeks months ago that that it looked like it would
Speaker 1: need to be the Jets or the Giants as far
Speaker 1: as the opponent that would be the home game for
Speaker 1: the Packers, the ninth home game that would that would
Speaker 1: be moved overseas. It did turn out to be the Giants,
Speaker 1: and now we do have the we do have the date. Interestingly,
Speaker 1: the week right before that, October two, the Vikings NFC
Speaker 1: North rival are going. We'll be playing um over in
Speaker 1: uh the UK as well. So some interesting uh um,
Speaker 1: interesting happenings uh coming up here. Before we get back
Speaker 1: to some questions with regard to the Packers draft class,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw some random questions out, throw some
Speaker 1: random drash. Class. We kind of went through in our
Speaker 1: last show all the picks that were made on defense,
Speaker 1: the picks that were made on offense. UM touched on
Speaker 1: all eleven of the selections in one form or fashion.
Speaker 1: So we'll start with this. Which draft pick do you
Speaker 1: see making the biggest impact as a rookie on the
Speaker 1: Packers two season. I'm gonna go with kay Walker here.
Speaker 1: That's kind of a really big, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: cop out, you know, considering he's the overall pick, he's
Speaker 1: the first rounder. But I just feel last year I
Speaker 1: was completely taken him back, just complete, complete surprise at
Speaker 1: how often the Packers implemented two inside backers on the field. Um.
Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't gonna be Mike Petton's defense. I
Speaker 1: knew Joe Berry was going to utilize that position more
Speaker 1: specifically in the Nickel package, but he really like they
Speaker 1: played a lot. Chris Barnes and Devandre Campbell played a lot.
Speaker 1: And I think that the opportunity, the foundation in terms
Speaker 1: of the defense and what's going to be expected. There's
Speaker 1: a there's a catalyst and a sort of a path
Speaker 1: I think for for Walker to play. And the reason
Speaker 1: I say that as Devondre Campbell now has this defense
Speaker 1: down cold, he's the shot caller out there. This is
Speaker 1: the guy that's running things, He's running the show. And
Speaker 1: you saw how many different guys stepped in with Campbell
Speaker 1: last year. You know, Chris Barnes played quite a bit,
Speaker 1: especially in the rundown packages, but they rotated oron Burke's
Speaker 1: in there, we had, you know, um Jalen Smith came
Speaker 1: in for a couple of weeks. I mean, they went
Speaker 1: through a lot of different guys at that position, Ty Summers,
Speaker 1: and yet it was still Campbell calling the shots and
Speaker 1: making all the pieces fit. So in that regard, I
Speaker 1: think there's there's a really good opportunity for Walker to
Speaker 1: get comfortable in this defense without having to be the
Speaker 1: man so to speak, but still to be a playmaker. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to work for it. Chris Barnes is
Speaker 1: a is a proven vet. Now he's done this for
Speaker 1: two years. I've written about it a number of times.
Speaker 1: A hundred and sixty tackles on less than a thousand career,
Speaker 1: snaps the guys constantly around the football, and is going
Speaker 1: to want to still compete to be a starter in
Speaker 1: this defense with Walker, there's just at six ft three pounds,
Speaker 1: there's so many ways Green Bay can utilize them. We
Speaker 1: may see some four three packages. We saw a couple
Speaker 1: of those last year. I just feel like the path
Speaker 1: is there for that young man to be able to
Speaker 1: make a year one impact. I like that. I like
Speaker 1: that selection and as much as I would like to say,
Speaker 1: and I do think it would be, it would be
Speaker 1: extremely beneficial to the Packers quite frankly if Christian Watson
Speaker 1: is the rookie that makes the biggest impact, because I
Speaker 1: expect Al Lazard and Randall Cobb in particular to be
Speaker 1: able to produce in this offense with their relationship with
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Of christ if we're talking about a major
Speaker 1: rookie impact from Christian Watson, that's going to be a
Speaker 1: sign that he and Aaron Rodgers have gotten on the
Speaker 1: same page fairly quickly, fairly smoothly. Um, I think that
Speaker 1: could be a huge thing for this Packers offense. But
Speaker 1: I hesitate to say that just because of those guys
Speaker 1: like Lazard and Cobb and possibly Sammy Watkins UM in
Speaker 1: that receiver room. So I'm gonna go with Vante Wyatt,
Speaker 1: and this is why I'm going to say that, Um.
Speaker 1: He certainly gives the Packers a big rotational piece on
Speaker 1: that defensive line. Kenny Clark and Dean Lowry be in
Speaker 1: those two, those two veterans stalwarts that you have there.
Speaker 1: But I can see a lot of potential third downs
Speaker 1: with this defense where the four man rush that you'd
Speaker 1: like to get home with four right, so you don't
Speaker 1: have to blitz, you don't have to compromise your coverage.
Speaker 1: The four man rushes Preston Smith and Rashaun Area on
Speaker 1: the edges and Kenny Clark and Devonte Wyatt on the inside. Now,
Speaker 1: when three of the other four are Rashawn Gary, Preston Smith,
Speaker 1: and Kenny Clark, chances are Devonte Wyatt is going to
Speaker 1: be blocked one on one right, He's going to be
Speaker 1: singled up way more often than not. And I just
Speaker 1: I think, I think potentially in this in this third
Speaker 1: down defense, if Joe Barry doesn't doesn't want to, doesn't
Speaker 1: need to go crazy with the blitz, is that a
Speaker 1: guy like why, it could get a lot done. And
Speaker 1: you remember the end of last season when they started
Speaker 1: using some of those double A gap pressures too with
Speaker 1: Campbell even you know Kevin King was kind of using
Speaker 1: some of that as well near the end of the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they started stressing all points, all gaps on the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and I really see that with this group. It's such
Speaker 1: an evinly balanced group. Certainly, you know, Preston Smith is
Speaker 1: the high earning guy. You know, a guy that's been
Speaker 1: doing this for eight nine years now. Kenny Clark has
Speaker 1: been a two Pro Bowl. So the areas of emphasis
Speaker 1: are still going to be there, But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of different ways that they can really test that chain
Speaker 1: and try to find the weakest link. And White fits
Speaker 1: into that perfectly. Yeah. But I will say also going
Speaker 1: back to your point and talking about Walker, Walker maybe
Speaker 1: is a guy that Joe Barry decides to cut loose
Speaker 1: on third downs. You just look at the video from
Speaker 1: the National Championship game against Alabama Kuway. Walker had six
Speaker 1: quarterback pressures in that game as an off the ball linebacker,
Speaker 1: and he was he was turned loose in the pass
Speaker 1: rush for all the marbles in college football, and and
Speaker 1: and he delivered a big time performance. And to mention
Speaker 1: one thing about Watson too, you know, I'm not expecting
Speaker 1: this young man to come in and completely run the
Speaker 1: row tree and know everything where he's supposed to be
Speaker 1: at all times with Aaron Rodgers. But one thing that
Speaker 1: really gets lost in that that two thousand eighteen season
Speaker 1: that I know a lot of people want to forget
Speaker 1: was the fact of how impactful Marcos Velda Scantling was
Speaker 1: in a limited capacity as a rookie. I mean, his
Speaker 1: home run potential, it showed right from the start. Um
Speaker 1: Now a little bit more veteran player, a guy that
Speaker 1: was basically used that way at USF fit well into
Speaker 1: that capacity. By I think it just does go to
Speaker 1: show you that Watson can be a player. He can
Speaker 1: do certain things in this offense right off the bat.
Speaker 1: It's just going to be the larger entree, I think
Speaker 1: is going to be the question, because again it's a
Speaker 1: huge playbook and there's a lot of guys coming in
Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly where they fit into the
Speaker 1: whole equation. All right, next question, Packers had four seventh
Speaker 1: round draft picks, which is a lot, and you don't.
Speaker 1: Packers haven't haven't had that volume of picks late in
Speaker 1: the draft in a long time, and and we're always
Speaker 1: curious as to exactly how these guys are gonna work out.
Speaker 1: To you, of the four seventh round picks, who's the
Speaker 1: most intriguing guy. I've talked a lot about two ra
Speaker 1: and I've talked a lot about Carpenter, and I could
Speaker 1: talk more about them now, and maybe I'll give you
Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk about one of these guys here
Speaker 1: in a second. But I do want to put some
Speaker 1: some shine onto Rashid Walker because the thing was Mike
Speaker 1: we were talking about this. I went back and looked,
Speaker 1: you know, I always like to look at I don't
Speaker 1: care about what people are mocking for next year. People
Speaker 1: always like to do their way too early mock drafts
Speaker 1: for next year. They're rarely correct. I mean the whole
Speaker 1: kid was like mocked as a top ten pick. I
Speaker 1: think he went like towards the back end of it,
Speaker 1: the quarterback from from North Carolina. But Walker was a
Speaker 1: guy that some people had as a first round pick
Speaker 1: for going back to last year's after the draft, going
Speaker 1: into this year and the nothing's changed with this guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had to battle some injuries and there
Speaker 1: might be some things that I think people might have
Speaker 1: perseverated on as far as his makeup. But he's still
Speaker 1: a guy that started thirty two games at left tackle
Speaker 1: for Penn State, a competitive Big ten team, and has
Speaker 1: a lot of experience to lean back on. I think
Speaker 1: that he's going to be a really when you're talking
Speaker 1: about trying to find guys in the seventh round, Elliot
Speaker 1: Wolf used to talk about it, you're looking for trades.
Speaker 1: You're looking for an attribute, You're looking for something that
Speaker 1: stands out to me. I think there's a lot that
Speaker 1: stands out with Walker. It's just a matter of can
Speaker 1: they just get him in here. Forget about the injuries,
Speaker 1: forget about everything else. Just treat him like every other
Speaker 1: prospect and see if he might have something there. Because
Speaker 1: if you can mind and the third day left tackle
Speaker 1: prospect or right tackle prospect, that can be a major hit.
Speaker 1: The Packers have had so much success on that third
Speaker 1: day unearthing incredible athletes. Uh. And I feel like you
Speaker 1: know when you when you look at Walker's makeup. This
Speaker 1: guy has a lot to offer from a prospect standpoint
Speaker 1: and a recruit standpoint. I'm excited to see him in
Speaker 1: a Packers uniform. Yeah, it's interesting that your answer to
Speaker 1: this question was Walker, because I was going to I
Speaker 1: was going to test your knowledge your trivia a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mentioned the Packers took four players in the seventh
Speaker 1: round back when, if I'm doing my math right, you
Speaker 1: were somewhere in junior high. The Packers had five seventh
Speaker 1: round picks one year, and one of those guys is
Speaker 1: in the Packers Hall of Fame. Marco Overa, No, No,
Speaker 1: I'd have been too young. Um Mark Tow Sorry yet?
Speaker 1: What markus? Seventh round pick who's now in the Packers
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. The Packers had five seventh round pick
Speaker 1: that year that they drafted Mark Tosher. He was the
Speaker 1: first of the five seventh round picks he ended up.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, it was week two of his
Speaker 1: rookie year. Earl Dotson at right tackle gets injured. Tauscher
Speaker 1: steps in basically, other than injuries of his own, held
Speaker 1: the job at right tackling Green Bay for a decade,
Speaker 1: and he's now a He's now a Packers Hall of Famer. Incredible,
Speaker 1: incredible career, my seventh round pick. As far as most intriguing,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Trek Carpenter, and I say that
Speaker 1: because of surprise, surprise, special teams six ft three thirty pounds.
Speaker 1: I don't really care whether you want to call him
Speaker 1: a safety or a linebacker. However that shakes itself out.
Speaker 1: But I go back to what we when we got
Speaker 1: the first chance a few weeks ago to talk to
Speaker 1: new special teams coordinator rich Rich Bisaccia, and he mentioned
Speaker 1: in terms of how he likes to how he likes
Speaker 1: to build his units. He talked about the his core,
Speaker 1: his foundation are is to find the six players on
Speaker 1: your punt team, essentially your punk protection team. Aside from
Speaker 1: your long snapper, aside from your punter, aside from your gunners.
Speaker 1: You're six guys that sort of form the inner core
Speaker 1: of that punt team. And those are the guys who
Speaker 1: oftentimes become the regulars on all of the different special
Speaker 1: teams units. And a guy like Carpenter, I know he's
Speaker 1: a rookie and he's gonna have a lot to learn,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna have a great teacher in in bisacci
Speaker 1: to potentially learn all this stuff at sixty pounds. I
Speaker 1: see him as as one of these guys, even as
Speaker 1: a young player, who might be able to get a
Speaker 1: job as one of those core six that Bisaccio was
Speaker 1: talking about, and uh and make himself a regular on
Speaker 1: special teams regardless of maybe where he fits on the
Speaker 1: depth chart on the defensive side of the ball, If
Speaker 1: you're six three in your two thirty and can run
Speaker 1: the way he ran at his pro day, yeah, and
Speaker 1: you can tackle like he tackled throughout his career at
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. There's gonna be a place for you in
Speaker 1: the National Football League. It will don't be easy. It's
Speaker 1: going to be a challenge. Especially it's never easy for
Speaker 1: a rookie coming in. We talked so much about offensive
Speaker 1: defense guys coming in as a rookies, it's not easy
Speaker 1: to do that. And special teams either. I think sometimes
Speaker 1: we take that for granted. They just think, well, he's
Speaker 1: the bottom of the roster guy, he's number forty through
Speaker 1: fifty three. He'll be great on special teams, and you
Speaker 1: stop thinking about it. No, there's a transition there too.
Speaker 1: You have to understand all the terminology. You need to
Speaker 1: be understand what's asked to you in all these specific units.
Speaker 1: But it seems like Carpenter has a really good base
Speaker 1: for it. Foundation and intelligent kid. Uh did you know
Speaker 1: was one of the captains over there, you know, Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1: He's a little bit more of a veteran side of things.
Speaker 1: I just feel like Mike, there were so many people
Speaker 1: that for years didn't fully appreciate Jared Bush and and
Speaker 1: I was one of them that actually did. Because I'll
Speaker 1: never forget the time that Joe Witt was talking to
Speaker 1: us in the h R in the former Packers quarterbacks coach,
Speaker 1: and he said the thing about Bush, take away all
Speaker 1: the special team stuff, which is what he was known
Speaker 1: for during his nine years here. He knows how to
Speaker 1: play seven positions in the defense. He could have played
Speaker 1: the mic line actor if they needed him to. Was
Speaker 1: based on how things worked out. But what stood out
Speaker 1: to me the most about it is that he was
Speaker 1: always accountable to those spots. If he got thrown in there,
Speaker 1: he was ready for it. And he was just such
Speaker 1: a steady eddie on special teams as a gunner, as
Speaker 1: a coverage guy. And you just you need to have
Speaker 1: some of those guys because it's not just about what
Speaker 1: that individual person does, it's about how that individual person
Speaker 1: affects the rest of the unit. That's what Green Bay
Speaker 1: needs right now. Well, it's it's it's it's neat that
Speaker 1: you mentioned a guy mentioned a guy like Jared Bush.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got to know JB pretty well covered
Speaker 1: his entire career here, and of course they'll never forget him.
Speaker 1: Get you talk about learning all these spots on defense
Speaker 1: and being accountable. He gets thrown in there in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and he gets an interception of Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl when the Packers had all kinds
Speaker 1: of injuries going on. But yes, a special teams was
Speaker 1: first and foremost. Um what he did. Next question, what
Speaker 1: is the most interesting competition that has been created by
Speaker 1: this draft class? You know exactly where I'm jumping here.
Speaker 1: It's offensive line. It has to be. Uh. Nine offensive
Speaker 1: linemens selected in the last three drafts, eight of which
Speaker 1: are still in Green Bay right now. Obviously Simon Stepanek retired,
Speaker 1: but eight guys in addition to David Batieri and Elton
Speaker 1: Jenkins and all these other veterans that they've had in
Speaker 1: there as well. That competition trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to set a starting five. It is a good problem
Speaker 1: to have because I can't do it right now. It's difficult.
Speaker 1: I mean yash Naiman the way he played last season,
Speaker 1: and in the weird thing is Mike you you hope
Speaker 1: there won't be injuries affecting this like last year. But
Speaker 1: these things always have a way of working themselves out.
Speaker 1: But it's worked out through competition. It's worked out through
Speaker 1: training camp, it's worked out through preseason games, one on
Speaker 1: one blocking drills. There's so many things that kind of
Speaker 1: go into it and what Green Bay is gonna want
Speaker 1: to do. And I can already tell you what you know.
Speaker 1: Luke Buckus message is gonna be to his offensive lineman
Speaker 1: before the Week one game is okay, this is the
Speaker 1: Star five are going with every single by everybody else
Speaker 1: that's here on the fifty three. You've gotta be ready.
Speaker 1: And if you need any more evidence of that, throw
Speaker 1: on the tape from last season so and even the
Speaker 1: year before and the year before. Because Lucas Patrick has gone,
Speaker 1: that's your backup center. That's a guy that's had a
Speaker 1: lot of experience at the guard spots. Billy Turner's gone,
Speaker 1: a guy that started both positions guard an tackle. Green Bay.
Speaker 1: It's not about what the starting five is. It's about
Speaker 1: who's stepping up at each of those spots if somebody
Speaker 1: else goes down. So to get in a Zack Tom
Speaker 1: to be able to draft to Sean Ryan mid round
Speaker 1: draft picks, prime cut draft picks for what the Packers
Speaker 1: have had success at that position, that's gonna be the
Speaker 1: position all summer long. I'm gonna be watching with a fine,
Speaker 1: fine ion. Yeah, I think this is gonna be really interesting. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to pick a different position
Speaker 1: as far as competition in terms of answering this question,
Speaker 1: because I am with you that that it's about the
Speaker 1: offensive line with what Brian goudacunst invested with with the
Speaker 1: draft picks in this class. Because you mentioned you mentioned
Speaker 1: Rashid Walker, the seventh round pick, it looks like he's
Speaker 1: the one guy that they're not necessarily talking about as
Speaker 1: much with position versatility that he's going to play tackle.
Speaker 1: I could see him definitely competing with with yosh Naiman
Speaker 1: for for a starting spot there at right tackle. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Sean Ryan, Zack Tom third and fourth round draft
Speaker 1: picks positional versatility, guys that could could play tackle, Um
Speaker 1: could play guard. Tom obviously also has experience playing center.
Speaker 1: UM you know, does does Sean Ryan push Royce Newman
Speaker 1: at at right guard? Does you know, does Zach Tom
Speaker 1: get a chance to maybe push John Runyon at left guard?
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out possibilities here right I don't know
Speaker 1: when I look at it right now, I I there's
Speaker 1: um health questions aside David Baktr at left tackle and
Speaker 1: Josh Meyers at center. Of the guys that I expect
Speaker 1: to be starting on this offensive line when the season
Speaker 1: gets underway. But um, for as good a season as
Speaker 1: John Ryan John running excuse me had at left guard, Um,
Speaker 1: it's not. That's not to say that his spot is safe.
Speaker 1: Certainly Royce Newman spot at right guard is not safe.
Speaker 1: Yosh Naiman will be presumably shifting from left tackle, where
Speaker 1: he started half the season, over to right tackle to
Speaker 1: try to win a starting job there. And uh, and
Speaker 1: these draft picks are gonna come in and battle them.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be It's it's going to be very,
Speaker 1: very interesting to see exactly how this shakes out. Because
Speaker 1: as we talked about on our last show after last
Speaker 1: year's draft, we weren't talking about Royce Newman as a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick from Mississippi being the starting right guard
Speaker 1: in week one. But low and behold, that's what ended
Speaker 1: up happening, right, So who knows at this point how
Speaker 1: this is exactly going to shake itself out. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I'll just to close on this too. I'll also
Speaker 1: throw out to switch up the positions. The receiver battle
Speaker 1: is going to be really interesting, sure, because the one
Speaker 1: thing I don't think people realize because someone asked an
Speaker 1: insider inbox. Well, would you look at a Jarvis Landry?
Speaker 1: Would you would you look at a Will Fuller. I
Speaker 1: My response to it is they've already done this. I
Speaker 1: mean when you look at Watkins coming in. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the one outside signing. But the Packers currently have six
Speaker 1: guys on the roster that have played in NFL games,
Speaker 1: some for a full season, most of them, all of
Speaker 1: them for a full season. Rico Gafford I think, played
Speaker 1: two years with with the Raiders, so they have experience.
Speaker 1: And now they have three draft picks. They have a
Speaker 1: couple undrafted free agents including uh the kid from Wisconsin
Speaker 1: that came in now too, so they have the competition
Speaker 1: they're looking for the only thing that's different than previous
Speaker 1: years is you don't know how one to three is
Speaker 1: slotted on the depth chart. You just know that there's
Speaker 1: gonna be guys competing for the fifty three, and the
Speaker 1: guys that make the fifty three are going to be
Speaker 1: looking to make the game day roster. The guys looking
Speaker 1: to make the game dear roster are the guys are
Speaker 1: gonna be trying to be the ones that are playing
Speaker 1: on Sundays. That is the goal. Yes, there's the cob Yes,
Speaker 1: there's Alan Lazard, but they're gonna bring all these guys in.
Speaker 1: If you're going to be in the equation you have
Speaker 1: a chance to play, you've gotta show that you can
Speaker 1: handle it. Yeah. All right, Well one last question before
Speaker 1: we go. Favorite fun fact that you learned about one
Speaker 1: of these draft picks. It's got to be the Jonathan
Speaker 1: Ford one. I'm probably taking the coolest pieces there, but
Speaker 1: Jonathan Ford in to Darryl Slayton being middle school teammates
Speaker 1: or basketball or whatever that was, they're playing together. Like
Speaker 1: I joked about, you wrote about it. I joked about
Speaker 1: it in our last one, like that lunch lady. I mean,
Speaker 1: my god, I can't I can't imagine what that must
Speaker 1: have been like. But I mean he was a lot.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of food moving through that middle
Speaker 1: school cafeteria to feed to feed those two young men.
Speaker 1: T J even said last year, he's like, basically, I
Speaker 1: mean it's pretty easy for him to get up to
Speaker 1: three sixty. You know, you had John saying, he's, you know,
Speaker 1: it's about three forty one. Wants to play in the
Speaker 1: more of that three thirty range. But the fact that there, again,
Speaker 1: it goes back to what we've always said about how
Speaker 1: small this football universe really is. And then there was
Speaker 1: somebody that also tweeted out, I mean, I think there's
Speaker 1: five guys in the NFL now. I can't remember if
Speaker 1: it's Plantation, I forget this high school that t J
Speaker 1: went to, but there's five guys from his high school
Speaker 1: basketball team that are all in the NFL right now. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: not counting John John. I think might have went to
Speaker 1: a different high school or something. But like t J
Speaker 1: has like like just seeing those connections. It's always funny
Speaker 1: because the six degrees thing, it really is true. And
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, so ford En slating those two big
Speaker 1: defensive tackles going to middle school together kind of brought
Speaker 1: a smile to my face. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I
Speaker 1: also got a kick out of learning that Kingsley nick
Speaker 1: berries nickname is j J. And apparently he got that
Speaker 1: nickname JJ because when he was a young lad, he
Speaker 1: was a big fan of a children's show called J J.
Speaker 1: The Jet Plane, which I was not familiar with. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not familiar with that one either, but just
Speaker 1: interesting them usually working during the day. But it's interesting
Speaker 1: that he would that he would pick up a nickname
Speaker 1: from from watching a children's TV show. That's that's one
Speaker 1: I've never as far as the origin of a nickname,
Speaker 1: that's one that I haven't heard before. I kind of
Speaker 1: got a kick out. So I didn't know anything about
Speaker 1: him at all until the Packers draft him. I knew
Speaker 1: I heard his name in the outside linebacker conversation, but
Speaker 1: in terms of breaking them down, I didn't know. So
Speaker 1: when when Patrick Moore of the Packers scout goes up
Speaker 1: there and it's like, yep, you know Kingsley, he goes
Speaker 1: by j J. I'm kind of like, okay, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, to Darryl Slayton going by t J. Slate.
Speaker 1: I get that, you know, But oh okay, yeah j J.
Speaker 1: But hey j J j J the jet plane. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to I have to check with my kids
Speaker 1: if they watch that show. I'm not even sure if
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they did, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I that that. I usually am pretty more far up
Speaker 1: on the kids shows, you know, with a four year
Speaker 1: old running around now. But that's uh, that was a
Speaker 1: new one for me. Yeah, definitely a new one. Well
Speaker 1: with that, we'll call all at a rap on this
Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted and a bit of a programming note.
Speaker 1: We're actually going to just because of some scheduling conflicts
Speaker 1: and other things, We're going to take a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks off from the show, but we will be back
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Speaker 1: the players are still here during O t as Minicamp
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So we'll be back for some
Speaker 1: more shows. I'm holding out for a better contract. That's
Speaker 1: that's why we're not doing that. That's it's all. It's
Speaker 1: all his fault. We'll be back for some more shows
Speaker 1: later this spring, but we will be taking a couple
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Speaker 1: I'm Mike, Take care and we'll see you next time.