1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is the 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: one and only West had Koitz for coming to you 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. We're 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: going to review the draft class a little bit more, 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: continuing our discussion from our previous show. But before we 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: get to that, we have to talk about London. My friend. 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: It is official now the day to the opponent, it 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: has all been set. It is week five, October nine. 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: The Packers will be facing the New York Football Giants 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: at Tottenham Motspur over in London. The Packers becoming the 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: last NFL team to play a regular season international game. 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Another barrier broken here for the Green Bay Packers Football 14 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: Club Incorporated. Huge barrier, Mike. I remember when I started 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: covering the team in two thousand twelve. I the first year. 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember how they used to 17 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: do the who is going to play International series games 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: back in the day. But they used to announce them 19 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: like either was during the season or something like that 20 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: for the upcoming for the following year. It wasn't like 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: how this went down. I remember one time I was 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: sitting in our office at the Press Gazette and I 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: was actually like on my computer and I don't know 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: if it was Pete Doherty or if it was robbed Amovsky, 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: but somebody noticed me, like I'm like monitoring, like, okay, 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: three three pm, the NFL is going to announce the 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: International Series games. And I'm actually kind of on my 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: seat a little bit, like, Hey, is this gonna happen? 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: Is the Packers gonna go? With the Packers gonna go? 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: And I can't, I don't. I wish I could remember 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: if it was Peter rob But they literally just looked 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: at me like I was wearing sixteen pairs of eyeglasses 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: and and they're like, now they're not going. I'm like, 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: how can you be so sure? Because and then it 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: got into all the reasons that you know about what 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,279 Speaker 1: the Packers aren't gonna get the home game. The NFL 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: is not going to make another team give that game up, 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: so I'll be honest with you. For a while there, 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: I actually started to wonder when it would happen, if 40 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: it would happen, because it just seemed like the immovable option, 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: the immovable object in the Unstoppable Force here where teams 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: are not going to give up this game because it 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: means too much money. We thought, okay, well, if you're 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: if you're moving and you're relocating, then you have to 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: give it up. No, you can actually block one of them. 46 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: So I kind of had given up hope. And as 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: it turns out with the seventeen game that there are 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: a dozen episodes of me with unscripted ripping on the 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: seventeen game. This is what opened up this opportunity. I've 50 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: long felt like this is something that needs to happen, 51 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: not for the Green Bay Packers, but for the National 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: Football League. They want to grow the game internationally. There 53 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: is no bigger brand, no more iconic brand in the 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: National Football League than the Green Bay Packers. And to 55 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: get them out there while Aaron Rodgers is still the 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: starting quarterback of this team, I thought that was essential. 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: So I was thrilled to see this finally happen the 58 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Giants and early morning game. In terms of the United States, 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really interesting festivity. And in a 60 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: game in which there's so much rudimentary no, it's so 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: much uh, you know, you just get in the same 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: rotation year after year, it's cool to have kind of 63 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: a new event coming. Yeah, absolutely, it's gonna be. It's 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: gonna be a very very interesting and exciting change of 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: pace in the middle of the two schedule. And we 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: all know from the communication we get an insider inbox 67 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: from the fans. I mean the number the number of 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: fans Packers fans in the UK in Europe in general, 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: they have been dying for this opportunity and there are 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: only what sixties sixty five thousand seats or something like 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: that at Tottenham Hotspur, So this is going to be 72 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: one Hotspur of a ticket with um It's it's not 73 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: going to be an easy one to get. Folks, we 74 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: know that, But who was that? Did you read through 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: in the insider in box submissions? I mean people talking 76 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: about how they've been life there. They're fifty years old 77 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: Packers fans. Yeah, they've never had an opportunity to come 78 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: to the States. They wake up at four o'clock in 79 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: the morning to watch these games. Yeah yeah whatever, one am, 80 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: two am, whatever time zone they're in over there in Europe, 81 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: they've been uh yeah, they they do whatever it takes 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: to be able to watch the Packers live whenever they can. 83 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: In the middle of the night, and now the Packers 84 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: are actually going to be playing over there. I have 85 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: to say, though I got a kick out of there 86 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: was a story I guess it was last week that 87 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: seemed to get started to get a little bit of 88 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: legs um with regard to the Rams apparently saying that 89 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: they were going to volunteer to be the Packers opponent 90 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: over in England and that maybe the NFL was going 91 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: to sa and and I was just like, I was 92 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: like the fact that that story got any traction whatsoever, 93 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: the NFL let alone the Packers letting that game move. 94 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: The NFL was not gonna put the Green Bay Packers 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: against the defending Super Bowl champions at eight thirty in 96 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: the morning on a Sunday in early October, Like that 97 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: was just not That was just not going to happen. 98 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: So I didn't understand. I had said an insider Inbox 99 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: weeks months ago that that it looked like it would 100 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: need to be the Jets or the Giants as far 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: as the opponent that would be the home game for 102 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: the Packers, the ninth home game that would that would 103 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: be moved overseas. It did turn out to be the Giants, 104 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: and now we do have the we do have the date. Interestingly, 105 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: the week right before that, October two, the Vikings NFC 106 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: North rival are going. We'll be playing um over in 107 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: uh the UK as well. So some interesting uh um, 108 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: interesting happenings uh coming up here. 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All right, 117 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw some random questions out, throw some 118 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: random drash. Class. We kind of went through in our 119 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: last show all the picks that were made on defense, 120 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: the picks that were made on offense. UM touched on 121 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: all eleven of the selections in one form or fashion. 122 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: So we'll start with this. Which draft pick do you 123 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: see making the biggest impact as a rookie on the 124 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: Packers two season. I'm gonna go with kay Walker here. 125 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: That's kind of a really big, you know, kind of 126 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: cop out, you know, considering he's the overall pick, he's 127 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: the first rounder. But I just feel last year I 128 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: was completely taken him back, just complete, complete surprise at 129 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: how often the Packers implemented two inside backers on the field. Um. 130 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't gonna be Mike Petton's defense. I 131 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: knew Joe Berry was going to utilize that position more 132 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: specifically in the Nickel package, but he really like they 133 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: played a lot. Chris Barnes and Devandre Campbell played a lot. 134 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 1: And I think that the opportunity, the foundation in terms 135 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: of the defense and what's going to be expected. There's 136 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: a there's a catalyst and a sort of a path 137 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: I think for for Walker to play. And the reason 138 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: I say that as Devondre Campbell now has this defense 139 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: down cold, he's the shot caller out there. This is 140 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: the guy that's running things, He's running the show. And 141 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: you saw how many different guys stepped in with Campbell 142 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: last year. You know, Chris Barnes played quite a bit, 143 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: especially in the rundown packages, but they rotated oron Burke's 144 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: in there, we had, you know, um Jalen Smith came 145 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: in for a couple of weeks. I mean, they went 146 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: through a lot of different guys at that position, Ty Summers, 147 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: and yet it was still Campbell calling the shots and 148 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: making all the pieces fit. So in that regard, I 149 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: think there's there's a really good opportunity for Walker to 150 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: get comfortable in this defense without having to be the 151 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: man so to speak, but still to be a playmaker. Uh, 152 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to work for it. Chris Barnes is 153 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: a is a proven vet. Now he's done this for 154 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: two years. I've written about it a number of times. 155 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: A hundred and sixty tackles on less than a thousand career, 156 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: snaps the guys constantly around the football, and is going 157 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: to want to still compete to be a starter in 158 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: this defense with Walker, there's just at six ft three pounds, 159 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: there's so many ways Green Bay can utilize them. We 160 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: may see some four three packages. We saw a couple 161 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: of those last year. I just feel like the path 162 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: is there for that young man to be able to 163 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: make a year one impact. I like that. I like 164 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: that selection and as much as I would like to say, 165 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: and I do think it would be, it would be 166 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: extremely beneficial to the Packers quite frankly if Christian Watson 167 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: is the rookie that makes the biggest impact, because I 168 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: expect Al Lazard and Randall Cobb in particular to be 169 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: able to produce in this offense with their relationship with 170 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Of christ if we're talking about a major 171 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: rookie impact from Christian Watson, that's going to be a 172 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: sign that he and Aaron Rodgers have gotten on the 173 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: same page fairly quickly, fairly smoothly. Um, I think that 174 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: could be a huge thing for this Packers offense. But 175 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: I hesitate to say that just because of those guys 176 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: like Lazard and Cobb and possibly Sammy Watkins UM in 177 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: that receiver room. So I'm gonna go with Vante Wyatt, 178 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: and this is why I'm going to say that, Um. 179 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: He certainly gives the Packers a big rotational piece on 180 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: that defensive line. Kenny Clark and Dean Lowry be in 181 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: those two, those two veterans stalwarts that you have there. 182 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: But I can see a lot of potential third downs 183 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: with this defense where the four man rush that you'd 184 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: like to get home with four right, so you don't 185 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: have to blitz, you don't have to compromise your coverage. 186 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: The four man rushes Preston Smith and Rashaun Area on 187 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: the edges and Kenny Clark and Devonte Wyatt on the inside. Now, 188 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: when three of the other four are Rashawn Gary, Preston Smith, 189 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: and Kenny Clark, chances are Devonte Wyatt is going to 190 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: be blocked one on one right, He's going to be 191 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: singled up way more often than not. And I just 192 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: I think, I think potentially in this in this third 193 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: down defense, if Joe Barry doesn't doesn't want to, doesn't 194 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: need to go crazy with the blitz, is that a 195 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: guy like why, it could get a lot done. And 196 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: you remember the end of last season when they started 197 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: using some of those double A gap pressures too with 198 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: Campbell even you know Kevin King was kind of using 199 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: some of that as well near the end of the season. Yeah, 200 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: they started stressing all points, all gaps on the offensive line, 201 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: and I really see that with this group. It's such 202 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: an evinly balanced group. Certainly, you know, Preston Smith is 203 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: the high earning guy. You know, a guy that's been 204 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: doing this for eight nine years now. Kenny Clark has 205 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: been a two Pro Bowl. So the areas of emphasis 206 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: are still going to be there, But there's a lot 207 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: of different ways that they can really test that chain 208 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: and try to find the weakest link. And White fits 209 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: into that perfectly. Yeah. But I will say also going 210 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: back to your point and talking about Walker, Walker maybe 211 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: is a guy that Joe Barry decides to cut loose 212 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: on third downs. You just look at the video from 213 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: the National Championship game against Alabama Kuway. Walker had six 214 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: quarterback pressures in that game as an off the ball linebacker, 215 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: and he was he was turned loose in the pass 216 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: rush for all the marbles in college football, and and 217 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: and he delivered a big time performance. And to mention 218 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: one thing about Watson too, you know, I'm not expecting 219 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: this young man to come in and completely run the 220 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: row tree and know everything where he's supposed to be 221 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: at all times with Aaron Rodgers. But one thing that 222 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: really gets lost in that that two thousand eighteen season 223 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: that I know a lot of people want to forget 224 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: was the fact of how impactful Marcos Velda Scantling was 225 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: in a limited capacity as a rookie. I mean, his 226 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: home run potential, it showed right from the start. Um 227 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: Now a little bit more veteran player, a guy that 228 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: was basically used that way at USF fit well into 229 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: that capacity. By I think it just does go to 230 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: show you that Watson can be a player. He can 231 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: do certain things in this offense right off the bat. 232 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: It's just going to be the larger entree, I think 233 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: is going to be the question, because again it's a 234 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: huge playbook and there's a lot of guys coming in 235 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly where they fit into the 236 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: whole equation. All right, next question, Packers had four seventh 237 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: round draft picks, which is a lot, and you don't. 238 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: Packers haven't haven't had that volume of picks late in 239 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: the draft in a long time, and and we're always 240 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: curious as to exactly how these guys are gonna work out. 241 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: To you, of the four seventh round picks, who's the 242 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: most intriguing guy. I've talked a lot about two ra 243 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: and I've talked a lot about Carpenter, and I could 244 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: talk more about them now, and maybe I'll give you 245 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk about one of these guys here 246 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: in a second. But I do want to put some 247 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: some shine onto Rashid Walker because the thing was Mike 248 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: we were talking about this. I went back and looked, 249 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, I always like to look at I don't 250 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: care about what people are mocking for next year. People 251 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: always like to do their way too early mock drafts 252 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: for next year. They're rarely correct. I mean the whole 253 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: kid was like mocked as a top ten pick. I 254 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: think he went like towards the back end of it, 255 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback from from North Carolina. But Walker was a 256 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: guy that some people had as a first round pick 257 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: for going back to last year's after the draft, going 258 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: into this year and the nothing's changed with this guy. 259 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he had to battle some injuries and there 260 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: might be some things that I think people might have 261 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: perseverated on as far as his makeup. But he's still 262 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: a guy that started thirty two games at left tackle 263 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: for Penn State, a competitive Big ten team, and has 264 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: a lot of experience to lean back on. I think 265 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: that he's going to be a really when you're talking 266 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: about trying to find guys in the seventh round, Elliot 267 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Wolf used to talk about it, you're looking for trades. 268 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: You're looking for an attribute, You're looking for something that 269 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: stands out to me. I think there's a lot that 270 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: stands out with Walker. It's just a matter of can 271 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: they just get him in here. Forget about the injuries, 272 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: forget about everything else. Just treat him like every other 273 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: prospect and see if he might have something there. Because 274 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: if you can mind and the third day left tackle 275 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: prospect or right tackle prospect, that can be a major hit. 276 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: The Packers have had so much success on that third 277 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: day unearthing incredible athletes. Uh. And I feel like you 278 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: know when you when you look at Walker's makeup. This 279 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: guy has a lot to offer from a prospect standpoint 280 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: and a recruit standpoint. I'm excited to see him in 281 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: a Packers uniform. Yeah, it's interesting that your answer to 282 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: this question was Walker, because I was going to I 283 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: was going to test your knowledge your trivia a little bit. 284 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: I mentioned the Packers took four players in the seventh 285 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: round back when, if I'm doing my math right, you 286 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: were somewhere in junior high. The Packers had five seventh 287 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: round picks one year, and one of those guys is 288 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: in the Packers Hall of Fame. Marco Overa, No, No, 289 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: I'd have been too young. Um Mark Tow Sorry yet? 290 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: What markus? Seventh round pick who's now in the Packers 291 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. The Packers had five seventh round pick 292 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: that year that they drafted Mark Tosher. He was the 293 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: first of the five seventh round picks he ended up. 294 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, it was week two of his 295 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: rookie year. Earl Dotson at right tackle gets injured. Tauscher 296 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: steps in basically, other than injuries of his own, held 297 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: the job at right tackling Green Bay for a decade, 298 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: and he's now a He's now a Packers Hall of Famer. Incredible, 299 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: incredible career, my seventh round pick. As far as most intriguing, 300 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Trek Carpenter, and I say that 301 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: because of surprise, surprise, special teams six ft three thirty pounds. 302 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't really care whether you want to call him 303 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: a safety or a linebacker. However that shakes itself out. 304 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: But I go back to what we when we got 305 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: the first chance a few weeks ago to talk to 306 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: new special teams coordinator rich Rich Bisaccia, and he mentioned 307 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: in terms of how he likes to how he likes 308 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: to build his units. He talked about the his core, 309 00:15:54,400 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: his foundation are is to find the six players on 310 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: your punt team, essentially your punk protection team. Aside from 311 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: your long snapper, aside from your punter, aside from your gunners. 312 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: You're six guys that sort of form the inner core 313 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: of that punt team. And those are the guys who 314 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: oftentimes become the regulars on all of the different special 315 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: teams units. And a guy like Carpenter, I know he's 316 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: a rookie and he's gonna have a lot to learn, 317 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: but he's gonna have a great teacher in in bisacci 318 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: to potentially learn all this stuff at sixty pounds. I 319 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: see him as as one of these guys, even as 320 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: a young player, who might be able to get a 321 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: job as one of those core six that Bisaccio was 322 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: talking about, and uh and make himself a regular on 323 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: special teams regardless of maybe where he fits on the 324 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: depth chart on the defensive side of the ball, If 325 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: you're six three in your two thirty and can run 326 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: the way he ran at his pro day, yeah, and 327 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: you can tackle like he tackled throughout his career at 328 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. There's gonna be a place for you in 329 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: the National Football League. It will don't be easy. It's 330 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: going to be a challenge. Especially it's never easy for 331 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: a rookie coming in. We talked so much about offensive 332 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: defense guys coming in as a rookies, it's not easy 333 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: to do that. And special teams either. I think sometimes 334 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: we take that for granted. They just think, well, he's 335 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: the bottom of the roster guy, he's number forty through 336 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: fifty three. He'll be great on special teams, and you 337 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: stop thinking about it. No, there's a transition there too. 338 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: You have to understand all the terminology. You need to 339 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: be understand what's asked to you in all these specific units. 340 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: But it seems like Carpenter has a really good base 341 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: for it. Foundation and intelligent kid. Uh did you know 342 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: was one of the captains over there, you know, Georgia Tech. 343 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: He's a little bit more of a veteran side of things. 344 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: I just feel like Mike, there were so many people 345 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: that for years didn't fully appreciate Jared Bush and and 346 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: I was one of them that actually did. Because I'll 347 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: never forget the time that Joe Witt was talking to 348 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: us in the h R in the former Packers quarterbacks coach, 349 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: and he said the thing about Bush, take away all 350 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: the special team stuff, which is what he was known 351 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: for during his nine years here. He knows how to 352 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: play seven positions in the defense. He could have played 353 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: the mic line actor if they needed him to. Was 354 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: based on how things worked out. But what stood out 355 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: to me the most about it is that he was 356 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: always accountable to those spots. If he got thrown in there, 357 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: he was ready for it. And he was just such 358 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: a steady eddie on special teams as a gunner, as 359 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: a coverage guy. And you just you need to have 360 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: some of those guys because it's not just about what 361 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: that individual person does, it's about how that individual person 362 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: affects the rest of the unit. That's what Green Bay 363 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: needs right now. Well, it's it's it's it's neat that 364 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned a guy mentioned a guy like Jared Bush. 365 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I got to know JB pretty well covered 366 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: his entire career here, and of course they'll never forget him. 367 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Get you talk about learning all these spots on defense 368 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: and being accountable. He gets thrown in there in the 369 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and he gets an interception of Ben Roethlisberger 370 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl when the Packers had all kinds 371 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: of injuries going on. But yes, a special teams was 372 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: first and foremost. Um what he did. Next question, what 373 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: is the most interesting competition that has been created by 374 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: this draft class? You know exactly where I'm jumping here. 375 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: It's offensive line. It has to be. Uh. Nine offensive 376 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: linemens selected in the last three drafts, eight of which 377 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: are still in Green Bay right now. Obviously Simon Stepanek retired, 378 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: but eight guys in addition to David Batieri and Elton 379 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: Jenkins and all these other veterans that they've had in 380 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: there as well. That competition trying to figure out how 381 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: to set a starting five. It is a good problem 382 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: to have because I can't do it right now. It's difficult. 383 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: I mean yash Naiman the way he played last season, 384 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: and in the weird thing is Mike you you hope 385 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: there won't be injuries affecting this like last year. But 386 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: these things always have a way of working themselves out. 387 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: But it's worked out through competition. It's worked out through 388 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: training camp, it's worked out through preseason games, one on 389 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: one blocking drills. There's so many things that kind of 390 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: go into it and what Green Bay is gonna want 391 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: to do. And I can already tell you what you know. 392 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: Luke Buckus message is gonna be to his offensive lineman 393 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: before the Week one game is okay, this is the 394 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: Star five are going with every single by everybody else 395 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: that's here on the fifty three. You've gotta be ready. 396 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: And if you need any more evidence of that, throw 397 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: on the tape from last season so and even the 398 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: year before and the year before. Because Lucas Patrick has gone, 399 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: that's your backup center. That's a guy that's had a 400 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: lot of experience at the guard spots. Billy Turner's gone, 401 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: a guy that started both positions guard an tackle. Green Bay. 402 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: It's not about what the starting five is. It's about 403 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: who's stepping up at each of those spots if somebody 404 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: else goes down. So to get in a Zack Tom 405 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: to be able to draft to Sean Ryan mid round 406 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: draft picks, prime cut draft picks for what the Packers 407 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: have had success at that position, that's gonna be the 408 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: position all summer long. I'm gonna be watching with a fine, 409 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: fine ion. Yeah, I think this is gonna be really interesting. Um, 410 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to pick a different position 411 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: as far as competition in terms of answering this question, 412 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: because I am with you that that it's about the 413 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: offensive line with what Brian goudacunst invested with with the 414 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: draft picks in this class. Because you mentioned you mentioned 415 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: Rashid Walker, the seventh round pick, it looks like he's 416 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: the one guy that they're not necessarily talking about as 417 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: much with position versatility that he's going to play tackle. 418 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: I could see him definitely competing with with yosh Naiman 419 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: for for a starting spot there at right tackle. You 420 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: mentioned Sean Ryan, Zack Tom third and fourth round draft 421 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: picks positional versatility, guys that could could play tackle, Um 422 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: could play guard. Tom obviously also has experience playing center. 423 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: UM you know, does does Sean Ryan push Royce Newman 424 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: at at right guard? Does you know, does Zach Tom 425 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: get a chance to maybe push John Runyon at left guard? 426 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out possibilities here right I don't know 427 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: when I look at it right now, I I there's 428 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: um health questions aside David Baktr at left tackle and 429 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: Josh Meyers at center. Of the guys that I expect 430 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: to be starting on this offensive line when the season 431 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: gets underway. But um, for as good a season as 432 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: John Ryan John running excuse me had at left guard, Um, 433 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: it's not. That's not to say that his spot is safe. 434 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: Certainly Royce Newman spot at right guard is not safe. 435 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Yosh Naiman will be presumably shifting from left tackle, where 436 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: he started half the season, over to right tackle to 437 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: try to win a starting job there. And uh, and 438 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: these draft picks are gonna come in and battle them. 439 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be It's it's going to be very, 440 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: very interesting to see exactly how this shakes out. Because 441 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: as we talked about on our last show after last 442 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: year's draft, we weren't talking about Royce Newman as a 443 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: fourth round pick from Mississippi being the starting right guard 444 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: in week one. But low and behold, that's what ended 445 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: up happening, right, So who knows at this point how 446 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: this is exactly going to shake itself out. Yeah, and 447 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: then I'll just to close on this too. I'll also 448 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: throw out to switch up the positions. The receiver battle 449 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: is going to be really interesting, sure, because the one 450 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: thing I don't think people realize because someone asked an 451 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: insider inbox. Well, would you look at a Jarvis Landry? 452 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: Would you would you look at a Will Fuller. I 453 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: My response to it is they've already done this. I 454 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: mean when you look at Watkins coming in. Yeah, that's 455 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: the one outside signing. But the Packers currently have six 456 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: guys on the roster that have played in NFL games, 457 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: some for a full season, most of them, all of 458 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: them for a full season. Rico Gafford I think, played 459 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: two years with with the Raiders, so they have experience. 460 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: And now they have three draft picks. They have a 461 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: couple undrafted free agents including uh the kid from Wisconsin 462 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: that came in now too, so they have the competition 463 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 1: they're looking for the only thing that's different than previous 464 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: years is you don't know how one to three is 465 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: slotted on the depth chart. You just know that there's 466 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna be guys competing for the fifty three, and the 467 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: guys that make the fifty three are going to be 468 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: looking to make the game day roster. The guys looking 469 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: to make the game dear roster are the guys are 470 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna be trying to be the ones that are playing 471 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: on Sundays. That is the goal. Yes, there's the cob Yes, 472 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: there's Alan Lazard, but they're gonna bring all these guys in. 473 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: If you're going to be in the equation you have 474 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: a chance to play, you've gotta show that you can 475 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: handle it. Yeah. All right, Well one last question before 476 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: we go. Favorite fun fact that you learned about one 477 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: of these draft picks. It's got to be the Jonathan 478 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: Ford one. I'm probably taking the coolest pieces there, but 479 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: Jonathan Ford in to Darryl Slayton being middle school teammates 480 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: or basketball or whatever that was, they're playing together. Like 481 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: I joked about, you wrote about it. I joked about 482 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: it in our last one, like that lunch lady. I mean, 483 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: my god, I can't I can't imagine what that must 484 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: have been like. But I mean he was a lot. 485 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: There was a lot of food moving through that middle 486 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: school cafeteria to feed to feed those two young men. 487 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: T J even said last year, he's like, basically, I 488 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: mean it's pretty easy for him to get up to 489 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: three sixty. You know, you had John saying, he's, you know, 490 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: it's about three forty one. Wants to play in the 491 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: more of that three thirty range. But the fact that there, again, 492 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: it goes back to what we've always said about how 493 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: small this football universe really is. And then there was 494 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: somebody that also tweeted out, I mean, I think there's 495 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: five guys in the NFL now. I can't remember if 496 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: it's Plantation, I forget this high school that t J 497 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: went to, but there's five guys from his high school 498 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: basketball team that are all in the NFL right now. Really, yeah, 499 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: not counting John John. I think might have went to 500 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: a different high school or something. But like t J 501 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: has like like just seeing those connections. It's always funny 502 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: because the six degrees thing, it really is true. And 503 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, so ford En slating those two big 504 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: defensive tackles going to middle school together kind of brought 505 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: a smile to my face. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I 506 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: also got a kick out of learning that Kingsley nick 507 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: berries nickname is j J. And apparently he got that 508 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: nickname JJ because when he was a young lad, he 509 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: was a big fan of a children's show called J J. 510 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: The Jet Plane, which I was not familiar with. I'm 511 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: not I'm not familiar with that one either, but just 512 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: interesting them usually working during the day. But it's interesting 513 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: that he would that he would pick up a nickname 514 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: from from watching a children's TV show. That's that's one 515 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: I've never as far as the origin of a nickname, 516 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: that's one that I haven't heard before. I kind of 517 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: got a kick out. So I didn't know anything about 518 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: him at all until the Packers draft him. I knew 519 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: I heard his name in the outside linebacker conversation, but 520 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: in terms of breaking them down, I didn't know. So 521 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: when when Patrick Moore of the Packers scout goes up 522 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: there and it's like, yep, you know Kingsley, he goes 523 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: by j J. I'm kind of like, okay, like, yeah, 524 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, to Darryl Slayton going by t J. Slate. 525 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: I get that, you know, But oh okay, yeah j J. 526 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: But hey j J j J the jet plane. I'm 527 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to I have to check with my kids 528 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: if they watch that show. I'm not even sure if 529 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they did, I don't know. Yeah, 530 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: I that that. I usually am pretty more far up 531 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: on the kids shows, you know, with a four year 532 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: old running around now. But that's uh, that was a 533 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: new one for me. Yeah, definitely a new one. Well 534 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: with that, we'll call all at a rap on this 535 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted and a bit of a programming note. 536 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: We're actually going to just because of some scheduling conflicts 537 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: and other things, We're going to take a couple of 538 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: weeks off from the show, but we will be back 539 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: for some more shows end of May early June while 540 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: the players are still here during O t as Minicamp 541 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So we'll be back for some 542 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: more shows. I'm holding out for a better contract. That's 543 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: that's why we're not doing that. That's it's all. It's 544 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: all his fault. We'll be back for some more shows 545 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: later this spring, but we will be taking a couple 546 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: of weeks off before we return. So with that, thank 547 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: you for tuning in. Everybody sure to follow all of 548 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team on Packers dot com for WES. 549 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm Mike, Take care and we'll see you next time.