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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Michael Strahan, hall of Famer, joining us on behalf of

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Speaker 2: USAA for the unveiling of the National Military Monument in Washington,

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Speaker 2: DC this weekend.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to him about that.

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Speaker 2: You look like you're in shape, but the difference of

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Speaker 2: regular shape football shape is what.

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Speaker 4: I'm in TV shape. Man, Thank you for having me away.

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Speaker 4: It's great to see you, my friend. I'm in I'm

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Speaker 4: in t You know what kind of shape I'm man,

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Speaker 4: I'm in that shape where my friends can't text me

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Speaker 4: when they see me on TV and say, boy, you

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Speaker 4: look like you gave up.

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Speaker 2: So I just.

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Speaker 4: Enough to look like I'm good football safe. I thought

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Speaker 4: about it this morning, got no training camps are starting,

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Speaker 4: and I said, man, still feel like I got something

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Speaker 4: in the tank. I couldn't laugh to play. I walked

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Speaker 4: up the stairs the other day and I was out

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Speaker 4: of breath.

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Speaker 2: I'm done, okay, But help me understand Aaron Donald. Now

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Speaker 2: it's been two years since he's played. How long does

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Speaker 2: it take would it take do you think for him

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Speaker 2: to be ready for the season?

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Speaker 5: What he retired, I thought he still had a lot

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Speaker 5: more in the tank.

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I thought Aaron, I think

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Speaker 4: he had at least three or four or five years left.

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Speaker 5: He retired when he just got out.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm a little tired of it, but have you've

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Speaker 4: seen him, if you've seen him workout since he's been retired,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's completely out of his system. And

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Speaker 4: now you get a guy like Miles Garrett, Eh, you

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Speaker 4: can't double team both those guys. I think that if

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Speaker 4: I were Aaron, I would really give it a legit

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Speaker 4: shot because I don't think he ever got out of shape.

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Speaker 4: As long as it's in his heart that he wants

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Speaker 4: to play, then I think he'll be fine. But if

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Speaker 4: you're really not into it, that's how you get hurt.

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Speaker 4: But I have no doubt that if he decided to

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Speaker 4: decide to go back and play, he's going to be

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Speaker 4: all in.

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Speaker 2: It feels like we've gone from that edge rusher too.

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Speaker 2: Now everybody wants that nose tackle and I don't know

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Speaker 2: if that's a shift, but it, you know, I'm certainly

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Speaker 2: aware of If you look at Leonard Williams, videvea dexter,

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Speaker 2: Lawrence Kobe turned Aaron Donald coming back. Everybody needs or

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Speaker 2: wants that guy. It's not that easy. Is it easier

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Speaker 2: to find edge rushers still than it is that nose tackle?

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Speaker 4: I think I think so well depends because it's a

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Speaker 4: different thing. He's have member John Randall, of course, Hall

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Speaker 4: of Famer John Randall. He was an interior guy, but

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Speaker 4: he could rush the passer. You know, that's the hardest

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Speaker 4: thing to find a guy like Aaron Donald who can

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Speaker 4: dominate from the interior. You can get a guy who

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Speaker 4: can kind of stuff to run, but to get an

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Speaker 4: interior guy who can pass rush is always difficult. I

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Speaker 4: think that that's a very specialty thing. I think it's

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Speaker 4: easier to find edge rusher because guys specialized in edge

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Speaker 4: You have guys who probably a better built for being

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Speaker 4: an edge rusher. You have guys who are just athletically gifted.

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Speaker 5: In that way.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of guys when they're playing and they're

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Speaker 4: growing up, they look at the list and they go,

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks make the most, and then edge rushers make the

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Speaker 4: second most. I want to do that instead of go

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Speaker 4: inside and get beat up when I'm getting you beat

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Speaker 4: up by two or three guys at a time. So

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Speaker 4: I think that it's kind of these guys that understand

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Speaker 4: planning the edge is a little bit easier than playing inside.

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Speaker 4: Being an inside pass rusher the very difficult thing. Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 4: he made it look easy, but it's not. Believe me,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't want any part of that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there was any talk at the

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Speaker 2: time I brought it up. I've since brought it up

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Speaker 2: a couple of times. The front four for the Giants

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Speaker 2: against the Patriots in the Super Bowl, you guys collectively

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Speaker 2: were the MVPs, but they have to give it to

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Speaker 2: one person.

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Speaker 3: Did you guys ever.

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Speaker 2: Talk about, you know, like the Green Bay Packers offensive line,

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Speaker 2: when the Broncos offensive line against the Packers in the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, they were the MVPs in my opinion.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I love Eli and Eli Nathan played

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Speaker 4: to help us win that game, and think I'm grateful

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Speaker 4: for you, love, because without him my life is completely different.

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Speaker 4: I probably don't retire. I'm crazy enough to go try

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Speaker 4: to go back again. But if you're going to give

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Speaker 4: it to one guy, I agree, give it to Eli Manning,

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Speaker 4: or you could have given it to Justin Tuck. Or

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Speaker 4: if you'd given it to the defensive line, we had

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Speaker 4: already worked out a plan because you know, don't you

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Speaker 4: could have got a car or something. We could have winter, spring,

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Speaker 4: summer fall, all four of us could have split it

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Speaker 4: every three months.

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Speaker 5: You know, they didn't think that we had already worked

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Speaker 5: through this if we all got the MVP trophy. But

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Speaker 5: Eli deserted. He did it twice.

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Speaker 4: So is the ever anybody who I'm proud of and

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Speaker 4: happy that he can have it. If it's not a

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Speaker 4: defensive lineman, it's Eli Manning. But I do agree they

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Speaker 4: do have to give it to one person, and it's

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Speaker 4: usually the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Help me understand what you're doing. The unveiling of the

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Speaker 2: National Military Monument in DC this weekend, honoring more than

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Speaker 2: forty one million Americans who have answered the call to

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Speaker 2: served since the Revolutionary War. How'd you get involved in this?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, my father was in a military, retired

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Speaker 4: Major Jean Willie Strahan, Senior. And I'm a military brat.

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Speaker 4: I grew up on military basis all around the world,

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Speaker 4: from Fort Bragg, North Carolin to Manheim, Germany. And I'm

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Speaker 4: a military kid, so I always try to do everything

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Speaker 4: I can to support the military and also USAA, and

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Speaker 4: USAA is doing an amazing thing. It's the first of

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Speaker 4: its kind. It's a flag. It's a digital flag, digital display,

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Speaker 4: double sided, forty one million names of past in present

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Speaker 4: military service members who have served our country very well.

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Speaker 4: And it's a perfectly fitting for the country's two hundred

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Speaker 4: and fiftieth and the military and the Armies just celebrated

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Speaker 4: their two hundred and fiftieth last year. And I'm very

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Speaker 4: proud of my father and what he accomplished. I'm very

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Speaker 4: proud and honor all those who have sacrificed their life

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Speaker 4: for what we have now for our lives. And I'm

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Speaker 4: just here to support them and support that. And as

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Speaker 4: a visitor, you can walk up here. They have a

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Speaker 4: kiosk Is interactive. You go over you you put in

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Speaker 4: the name of a family member. They'll show you where

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Speaker 4: with the display that is going to show up. And

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Speaker 4: if you have a family member who's not in that

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Speaker 4: forty one million, you could submit their names because they've

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Speaker 4: gone through all the records getting as many as there

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Speaker 4: they could, but maybe they missed one.

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Speaker 5: Maybe something that you know.

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Speaker 4: If and if you're locally in the DC area, I

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Speaker 4: suggest you come check it out because of a small

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Speaker 4: way to honor them is just showing up and it's

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Speaker 4: emotional to see these names on.

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Speaker 5: The wall behind me.

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Speaker 4: And as you walk past it, it moves as if

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Speaker 4: the flag is blowing in the wind, and the names

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Speaker 4: change as they go, and it's just it's really a

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Speaker 2: The tributor is open to the public on the steps

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Speaker 2: of the Lincoln Memorial for everybody to remember today today,

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Speaker 2: open right now, honoring generation Open today.

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Speaker 4: That's right, and go to USAA dot com slash Monument

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Speaker 4: two fifty as well.

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Speaker 5: That's that's another way you can get a chance to

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Speaker 2: You got a lot of attention on the Chris Johnson interview,

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Speaker 2: a lot of positive things. There was one thing that

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Speaker 2: wasn't brought up, and I don't know why, and I

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Speaker 2: brought it up that it should have been brought up,

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Speaker 2: the connection between CT and football. I don't know in retrospect,

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Speaker 2: should that have been a question a topic for Chris

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Speaker 2: Johnson when you interviewed it.

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Speaker 5: Well, I had that.

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Speaker 4: I actually thought about that because I saw what everybody

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Speaker 4: should have asked this.

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Speaker 5: You should have asked that, Well, you should have got

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Speaker 5: the interview. How about that? That's one thing too.

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Speaker 4: Two that was Chris's moment for Chris this share the

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Speaker 4: story which Chris wanted to share. And when I got

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Speaker 4: the call that Chris wanted to share that he had

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Speaker 4: see als, that was the story. It wasn't for me

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Speaker 4: to try to grand stand, which I hate when people

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Speaker 4: do this dad. As an interviewer, our job is deliver information.

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to get a bigger name for myself

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Speaker 4: by putting somebody else in an uncomfortable position. I was

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Speaker 4: there at the service to Chris for what Chris wanted

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Speaker 4: people to understand and know about his life and where

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Speaker 4: he was now. I was not there to make a

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Speaker 4: story about myself or to get a big headline. That's

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Speaker 4: what it wasn't about. The headlines were about Chris. They

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Speaker 4: need it to be. I did ask Chris about football,

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Speaker 4: how the NFL has been supportive and all those things.

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Speaker 4: He has twin boys who play football right now, so

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Speaker 4: there are so many things that people don't know.

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Speaker 5: But a few were critical of.

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Speaker 4: But overall, I'm very proud of what we did there

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Speaker 4: and very happy that Chris trusted us to tell it

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Speaker 4: because that was Chris's story to tell. They had lots

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Speaker 4: about Chris Johnson, not about Michael Strahand. I don't make

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Speaker 4: any things about myself, and that was the disappointing thing

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Speaker 4: for a few people who are critical of that. But

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Speaker 4: if you don't have critics, that mean you're not doing

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Speaker 4: a good job too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I appreciate you putting in context there. And look,

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Speaker 2: when I do interviews, somebody will always say, oh, why

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Speaker 2: didn't you ask? You know, and you're in the moment

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Speaker 2: have or I could have pressed somebody a little bit harder.

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Speaker 2: With that, it goes along with the territory there. But

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Speaker 2: you brought up something really really important that I try

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Speaker 2: to tell people in this business. Don't make the interview

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Speaker 2: about you. Make it about the person you're interviewing. And

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Speaker 2: that is the correct appression.

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Speaker 4: But that's very but it's very very hard to do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're I don't know if it's maybe it's

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Speaker 4: just the way things are with social media and everything

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Speaker 4: is if every story, everybody needs to be out there,

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Speaker 4: they need to show oh I'm doing this and I'm

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Speaker 4: doing that, and I'm smarter than the next guy. I'm

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Speaker 4: no smarter than anybody else out there. I'm a normal

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Speaker 4: guy who had an extraordinary job. Or I get to

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Speaker 4: have incredible conversations with people like yourself, and when I'm

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Speaker 4: asking questions, I'm asking the as somebody who's really as

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Speaker 4: someone who really cares. I never do an interview or

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Speaker 4: doing anything and think, what am I going to get

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Speaker 4: out of this?

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Speaker 5: How are they going to make me look?

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Speaker 4: I do it because I wanted to give Chris that respect.

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Speaker 5: And here the guy is very tough.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at him Dan and I remember him as

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Speaker 4: the incredible football player that we all walked on the field.

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Speaker 4: He's sitting next to his wife, who was very emotional

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Speaker 4: and then put a left out of my to the

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Speaker 2: A thirty for thirty podcast the betrayal of show Hey.

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Speaker 2: O honey, great to have you on the show. What

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Speaker 10: to folks, they didn't know he was married, They didn't

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Speaker 10: know anything about him. And we were able in the

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Speaker 10: podcast to this thirty for thirty podcast to explore.

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Speaker 11: This idea of who is Epay? Who is this man

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Speaker 11: that had so much access to Show Hey.

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Speaker 10: And ultimately was controlling who could get to Epay including

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry, who could get to Show Hey, including show

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Speaker 10: his own people. Where we really look at how much

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Speaker 10: communication show his team and when I say team, I'm

448
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Speaker 10: talking about his agent, his financial advisors, his bookkeeper, his accountant,

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Speaker 10: all of those people, how much how much communication did

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Speaker 10: they really have with show?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 10: And what kind of role did Epay play when it

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Speaker 10: came to show his money? And it was very unusual, very.

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Speaker 11: Different from what you and I have experienced with.

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Speaker 2: Other athletes who exposed this whole story and.

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Speaker 3: Epay Do you mean who was my tip? No? No, like,

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Speaker 3: well I'm not telling.

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Speaker 2: You that, okay, So the authority okay, but did he

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Speaker 2: almost get away with this?

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Speaker 10: I would like to say no. I mean I'm the reporter, right,

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Speaker 10: I'm the one who spent five months trying to get

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Speaker 10: to the bottom of this before I ever approached sho

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Speaker 10: he Otani's people. You know, the folks at the ESPN

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Speaker 10: Investigative Unit work really hard. I say to people, I'm

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Speaker 10: not in the business the spreading rumors. I'm in the

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Speaker 10: business of gathering sourced information. So you know, we gathered

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Speaker 10: up documents, I mean documents, you know, sources. This was

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Speaker 10: a federal investigation. It was a sealed federal investigation into

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Speaker 10: the illegal bookmaker, so even that information was secret at

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Speaker 10: that point. You know, that was not common knowledge. So

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Speaker 10: we had to crack that and we had to get

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Speaker 10: documentation to prove that mab Bir was an illegal bookmaker,

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Speaker 10: and then we had to get documentation that showed that

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Speaker 10: show hey, at least this bank account had some kind

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Speaker 10: of relationship with this illegal bookmaking operation. So we were

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Speaker 10: able to I was able to and we talked about

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Speaker 10: in episode one see some of the ws you know.

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Speaker 10: So we really gathered up evidence, hard evidence, but we

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Speaker 10: also gathered up a lot of sourced information. And part

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Speaker 10: of the reason it took a minute to get to

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Speaker 10: the original article was because we knew there was show hey,

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Speaker 10: oh Tony's bank.

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Speaker 11: Account involved, and we were able to prove that.

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Speaker 10: But then I was I got some sourced information.

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Speaker 11: That said Epay might be involved.

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Speaker 10: Okay, well what does that mean, Dan Epay.

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Speaker 3: Might be involved?

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Speaker 10: Does that mean?

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Speaker 11: And we do this incredible.

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Speaker 10: Interview with the illegal Bookmaker in episode four of the podcast,

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Speaker 10: And if you bet on sports or you know someone

492
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Speaker 10: that bets on sports, I really recommend you listen to

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Speaker 10: this podcast and you listen to episode four and you

494
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Speaker 10: listen to the illegal bookmaker talk about how he hooks clients,

495
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Speaker 10: how he keeps them in his book, how he there's

496
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Speaker 10: this delicate balance between making as much money as you

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Speaker 10: can off of your client, but letting them go bankrupt

498
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Speaker 10: because he wants you to keep spending money with his book.

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Speaker 10: I mean it's a fascinating inside look into the bookmaking

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Speaker 10: business and how an illegal bookmaker thinks and how they

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Speaker 10: do what they do. So you know, we we looked

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Speaker 10: at all of that before we ever went to show

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Speaker 10: Heyo Tani's folks and.

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Speaker 11: Said, hey, we want to understand what's going on here.

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Speaker 10: And I said, right from the get go, I want

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Speaker 10: to interview show Heyo Tani.

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Speaker 3: And I mean you.

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Speaker 11: Can imagine I would like to interview.

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Speaker 3: Show Hey please right, And I by.

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Speaker 10: The way, I keep asking, I mean every time I

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Speaker 10: get on the phone with his people, I say, I

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Speaker 10: would like to interview show Heyo Tani. When are we

513
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Speaker 10: going to make that happen? And in the beginning it

514
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Speaker 10: was maybe we'll see, but we'll give you someone else.

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Speaker 10: And that's how I end up interviewing you pay me

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Speaker 10: Sahara and that interview Dan I you know, I didn't

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Speaker 10: know how long that interview would go.

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Speaker 11: He he paid had a reputation.

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Speaker 10: You know, my colleagues at ESPN, who cover the Dodgers

520
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Speaker 10: and the Angels every day, warned me, you know, this

521
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Speaker 10: is not a man who says much.

522
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Speaker 11: This is a man who barely talks about his personal life,

523
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Speaker 11: and when he says anything, it's very short sentences. So

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Speaker 11: I went in think thinking, well, maybe.

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Speaker 10: I'll get a statement, maybe he'll you know, give me

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Speaker 10: a couple of sentences, and that's how it starts in

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Speaker 10: episode two. You know, I I'm excited. There's not a

528
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Speaker 10: lot of opportunities for reporters to let folks listen to

529
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Speaker 10: an in depth interview like that. I mean, it was

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Speaker 10: a ninety minute interview, and we're not going to make

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Speaker 10: you sit through ninety minutes of it. But the reason

532
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Speaker 10: why it was so long is we really get into

533
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Speaker 10: nitty gritty details and Epey just kept talking and he

534
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Speaker 10: kept giving me information, and the interview, I think is fast.

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Speaker 10: There are you know, as an investigative reporter's been doing

536
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Speaker 10: this for two decades, I've done interviews.

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Speaker 11: With people that I know are lying to me.

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Speaker 10: You you know, I don't do these interviews until I'm

539
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Speaker 10: really well sourced more often than not.

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Speaker 11: In this case, I was very well.

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Speaker 10: Sourced, and Epay starts to tell me his story, and

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Speaker 10: there are moments in that interview in real time where

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Speaker 10: I'm I'm pretty skeptical. I'm like, I'm not sure he's

544
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Speaker 10: telling me the truth here. But you know, as a reporter,

545
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Speaker 10: you listen and you you asked the tough questions, and

546
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Speaker 10: that's what I tried to do, and the answers we

547
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 10: got were fascinating. But I will say it is the

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Speaker 10: first time in a two decade career where less than

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Speaker 10: sixteen hours later I was on the phone with him

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Speaker 10: again and he told me that almost everything he had

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Speaker 10: told me the night before was a lie. I said, Epai,

552
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Speaker 10: did you lie to me? And he said yes? And

553
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Speaker 10: I said, did you lie to show hey? And he

554
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Speaker 10: says yes. So we really take you through that whole

555
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Speaker 10: bizarre twenty four hour period, both before and after that interview. Dan,

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Speaker 10: I've never encounded anything like it in my career, And

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Speaker 10: you know, I'm glad folks can now listen and hear

558
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Speaker 10: what I was hearing, and know what I knew when

559
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Speaker 10: I knew it, and understand the context and why we

560
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Speaker 10: were asking the questions we were asking. What we knew,

561
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Speaker 10: what we later found out, and why the FEDS immediately

562
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Speaker 10: began to investigate Epay because he was not a target

563
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Speaker 10: so to speak, of the investigation.

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Speaker 11: Before we did that interview?

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Speaker 10: Is my understanding from sources.

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Speaker 2: Everything I've said to you today has been a lie

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Speaker 2: as well, Tisha.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Dan, don't tell me that.

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Speaker 11: Don't tell me that.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I know these things are exhaustive, but that's why you

572
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Speaker 2: know you're an investigative reporter that you do a deep

573
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Speaker 2: dive on that and some times you're getting nuggets there

574
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Speaker 2: you go, wait a minute, where did this come from?

575
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Speaker 2: And then you follow it six Part thirty for thirty podcast,

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Speaker 2: The Betrayal of Show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Tani, so you have.

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Speaker 2: The first two episodes are available today, the letter O

579
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Speaker 2: and the interview. Those are the titles of those two episodes.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with this, Tisia, and thank you very much.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Thank you Dan for having me and love

582
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Speaker 10: your show, so thanks for doing this.

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Speaker 1: That's Tisia Thompson. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

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Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows

585
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Speaker 1: Search FSR to listen live.

587
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Speaker 2: Charles Barkley, Hall of Famer Inside the NBA. How's your

588
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: summer going?

589
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Speaker 12: I play golf, favorite day. I have a great thing.

590
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 12: I'm summer. I don't do anything I try to stay

591
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 12: off TV. I'm only doing this because of you. I

592
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 12: try to stay off TV. I play golf favorite day.

593
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 12: I don't want people to get sick of me. So

594
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 12: I do like one thing every two or three weeks,

595
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Speaker 12: but the rest of the time, I'm playing golf every day.

596
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Speaker 12: I'm taking the day off because it's raining. So I'm

597
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Speaker 12: gonna go get a manny petty and a massage because

598
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Speaker 12: it's raining like hell here in Philadelphia all day. That's

599
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Speaker 12: my day to day, Dan, No, that's not a bad day. Oh,

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Speaker 12: I'm going as soon as I hang out with you,

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Speaker 12: I'm gonna go get a many petty. I'm gonna go

602
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Speaker 12: get a massage, and then I'm gonna chill and I'm

603
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Speaker 12: gonna back on the golf course tomorrow. But they rain

604
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Speaker 12: like hell yesterday and today, so I'm back on the

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Speaker 12: golf course tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe you should have stayed in Arizona where you

608
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Speaker 2: could have been able to play, or is it too

609
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Speaker 2: hot out there for you?

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Speaker 12: Hold up, there's like one hundred and twenty degrees every

611
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Speaker 12: day right now. It's brutal.

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Speaker 3: So how's the morale in Philadelphia here?

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Speaker 12: Oh, it's off the charge right now, Dan, the people

614
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Speaker 12: are going crazy. They should be excited. You know, getting

615
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Speaker 12: Lebron is a coup, so they're gonna be favorites, probably

616
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Speaker 12: in the East on paper. But man, it is going crazy.

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Speaker 12: I mean because I think it caught everybody by surprise,

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Speaker 12: to be honest with even myself. You know, I was

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Speaker 12: hoping he went back to Cleveland. But man, it is

620
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Speaker 12: on fire here right now. Twenty four to seven Lebron

621
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Speaker 12: right now. Ever since the story broke last week.

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Speaker 3: Feels like you had a problem with it.

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Speaker 12: I didn't have a problem with it. I want him

624
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Speaker 12: to go to Cleveland. He has no affiliation to Philly.

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Speaker 12: What's really funny. I guess the story broke yesterday that

626
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Speaker 12: he's not even gonna live in Philly. He's gonna live

627
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Speaker 12: in New York and helicopter back back in for a

628
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Speaker 12: practicing games. So the city's kind of pissed right now.

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Speaker 12: I was, like, I told y'all he didn't have no

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Speaker 12: affiliation with Philly. That's why I was shocked he came here. Yeah,

631
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Speaker 12: I was. You know, it was so funny. I was

632
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Speaker 12: playing golf yesterday early and my phone starts going crazy.

633
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Speaker 12: They're like, he believed this. I'm like, what y'all just

634
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Speaker 12: got Lebron be happy? He's not even gonna live here.

635
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Speaker 12: He's got to live in New York and take a

636
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Speaker 12: helicopter in for practicing games. Like, I just started laughing

637
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 12: because you can't make this stuff up.

638
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Speaker 3: Why didn't you let him stay at your place?

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Speaker 12: It's a condo, Dan, You know, I'm a firm belief

640
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 12: in the hermet was rude. One house, one car. You

641
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 12: don't need more than one house. Doesn't waste the money.

642
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 12: Don't waste your money on jewelry. I drive a Kia

643
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Speaker 12: and an Explorer. That's all you need. Brother, Don't waste

644
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Speaker 12: your money on cars, your young dummies.

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Speaker 3: You were on with Steven A. Smith.

646
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Speaker 2: That's why I thought you had a problem that Lebron's

647
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Speaker 2: always stacking his teams.

648
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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's been one of my critics. Well, most people

649
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Speaker 12: criticize him for that. He always stacks his team.

650
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Speaker 3: But what's wrong with wanting to build a team that

651
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Speaker 3: can win a championship.

652
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Speaker 12: We're going to well, let's see how you go. He

653
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Speaker 12: didn't build a team.

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Speaker 2: He manu build a team in Los Angeles. They were

655
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Speaker 2: bad before he got there, and he and his.

656
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Speaker 12: Agency forced them to trade for Anthony Davis, who was

657
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Speaker 12: ran by his group.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but he didn't. He didn't go to a team.

659
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: That was no, no, he did.

660
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 12: He's listen, Anthony Davis. Everybody in the league would have

661
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 12: won on Anthony Davis. Plus specifically said he has to

662
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 12: go to Theakers. That that's that's that's a fact, Dan.

663
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: But you still have to pull off the train to

664
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: get him. They didn't say, oh, here he would.

665
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 12: He said he would only go to the Lakers. He

666
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 12: said he would like everybody want an Anthony Davis, but

667
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 12: he's a clutch. Said no, he can only go to

668
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 12: the Lakers. So it is what it is. It's a

669
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 12: fair criticism. Yeah, everybody wanted Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis specifically

670
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 12: saying it because of clutch, I will only go to

671
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 12: the Lakers. So you think that's naturally organic. No, that

672
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 12: is stacking your team.

673
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: But that's Lebron's power.

674
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: Okay, and it reterms that credit that we want to

675
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: play with.

676
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 12: Him and we can't criticize it that we think it's unfair.

677
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: What's unfair about wanting to go better your life?

678
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 12: Like no, no, no, no, no, you're not You shouldn't

679
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 12: be guaranteed the championship. One of the reasons Michael Jordan

680
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 12: is to go. He got beaten the head. He kept going, Oh,

681
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 12: you know what, I'm gonna get bigger, stronger. That to

682
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 12: me is the way I would like to see it done.

683
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 12: That's why my dirt nubisky.

684
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 2: Uh.

685
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 12: He's like, you know what, I'm not going anywhere. We

686
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 12: just gonna keep getting better. That's why Steph Curvey same thing.

687
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 12: They never He's like, you know what, we got a team.

688
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 12: They were not in the good in the beginning. Then

689
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 12: Clay got good, Draymond got good, igodala everybody. So listen,

690
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 12: we can disagree. I'm not mad at Lebron, but I

691
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 12: can you know, I'm not gonna do the Stepford wife

692
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 12: thing like all Lebron and his friends do, like these

693
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 12: guys on television now, Like, I don't want to upset

694
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 12: Lebron because I wanted him to talk to me and

695
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 12: I wanted him to do it interviews. Like if you

696
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 12: don't like that's the don't you know. Lebron's a great

697
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 12: dude too, but the people around him and now guys

698
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 12: on television they're like Stefford Wives. It's like you have

699
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 12: to say Lebron's the greatest ever, or like he not

700
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 12: gonna talk to you, and you you're commit treason, Like

701
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 12: like I said, Lebron and it's the third best basketball

702
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 12: greatest basketball player I've ever seen. But when you're around them,

703
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 12: Stepford wise that around Lebron, and my people on television

704
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 12: are like that. They want to be friends with him.

705
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 12: I think, and me and Lebron, I think we're cool.

706
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 12: But I don't have to say he's the greatest basketball

707
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 12: player ever. I don't mean I don't think I'm committing treason.

708
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 3: I just did not.

709
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem if he wanted to go

710
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: to Philly. I think it's a big risk, but it's

711
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 2: his best chance to win a championship.

712
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 12: I don't agree with that. I said, think if he

713
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 12: went to the Cavs, they would have had the best

714
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 12: team in the East.

715
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: They got James Harden. I don't think he wanted to

716
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: play with James Harden.

717
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 12: He's hard not even on the team right now.

718
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: Well, but they're they're they're talking to him about a contract.

719
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 12: Let me tell you something. We can disagree. I mean,

720
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 12: this is all that's we all have an opinion. I

721
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 12: thought of Lebron and went to the Cavs, they would

722
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 12: have the best team in the East. That's just my

723
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 12: personal opinion.

724
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: If Darius Garland was there, I would say yes, not

725
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: not James Harden.

726
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 12: Well, you don't have to play James as much as

727
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 12: Lebron is there. And also think about this, there are

728
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 12: a lot of questions about this seventy sixers team. Can

729
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 12: Lebron and Joel embie stay healthy, That's a big question.

730
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 12: Lebron hasn't played the full season in five years, Joel

731
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 12: embiid ain't never played the full season. Those are fair questions.

732
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 12: And what's scary, man, one of the dark secrets nobody's

733
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 12: talking about. The Eastern Conference might be better than the

734
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 12: Western Conference right now. The Eastern Conference, Like I say,

735
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 12: can Lebron stay healthy, which he hasn't done in five years?

736
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 12: Can Joel stay healthy which he hasn't done ever? The

737
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 12: Eastern Conference has quietly become the better conference. I'm trying

738
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 12: to think there's no team in the East that's bad.

739
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 12: There's not one single team in the East you can

740
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 12: say it's bad. I mean, and can Joel and Lebron

741
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 12: stay healthy? Man? I'm telling you, Dan, people aren't even

742
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 12: talking about because they look at OKC and the Spurs

743
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 12: rightfules so head and shoulders. But the Knicks, Boston, Atlanta, Indiana, Orlando,

744
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 12: the Wizards, man the East. The only bad team is

745
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 12: probably the Brooklyn Nets.

746
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: They are better.

747
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 12: Oh, let me tell you something. I think the chicag

748
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 12: I said this, I think the Chicago Bulls got the

749
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 12: best rookie in the NBA. When I was talking to

750
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 12: coaches and general managers, which I do and I always

751
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 12: keep our conversations private because it's a private conversation, They're like,

752
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 12: who's to take the number one pick? I said, Caleb Wilson.

753
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 12: They're like, what do you mean? I says, Hey, I

754
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 12: like the Boston I like Peterson, but the one guy

755
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 12: who I think and like, I said, we're all kind

756
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 12: of thinking about the future. There's no player I would

757
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 12: have taken before Caleb Wilson, not one, because the way

758
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 12: his athletic ability. Like Peterson and the Monster, they're probably

759
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 12: better scores at this stage, but he can learn how

760
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 12: to shoot. And let me tell you something, from an

761
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 12: athletic point, where you can guard one, two, three, four,

762
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 12: ain't nobody more talent than the Caleb Wilson period.

763
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: Talking to Charles Barkley, Hall of Famer. I'm still trying

764
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: to understand what the Celtics did and are doing. Are

765
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: the Celtics better now than they were a month ago?

766
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 12: Damn? Let me tell you men, you can go out

767
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 12: and get drunk all night long and we can wake

768
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 12: up the next day and that still won't make no

769
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 12: damn sense to me. Whatever, And listen, what's okay? You

770
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 12: don't like Jalen Brown. I get that they clearly didn't,

771
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 12: but I'm not trading him to a team I got

772
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 12: to play five times a year and got the beat

773
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 12: in the playoffs. The Cultics are not better, and I

774
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 12: don't understand, Like I say, Okay, you want to trade

775
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 12: a player, I have no problem with that. Jalen's a

776
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 12: hell of a player. I'm not trading into my division.

777
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 12: I'm trading him out West more than anything. So I

778
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 12: have no idea what the Celtics are doing. And then

779
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 12: you hear people talk about the money. Paul Gehn's making

780
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 12: a lot of money, so you can't say they didn't

781
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 12: because they about it. I heard I hear guys talking about, well,

782
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 12: they didn't want to pay Jalen Brown I'm like, Paul

783
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 12: George's making fifty million dollars a.

784
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: Year, but only for one more year, two more too.

785
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: There's an option, but well, he go, damn, She'll take

786
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: the option. Well, Jalen, Jalen is you know you're locked

787
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: in for three more years, and Philly is going to

788
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: extend him as well. They're not trading for him and

789
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: then letting him go.

790
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 12: Well, so okay, but at that point they didn't know

791
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 12: they were going to get Lebron either. So that trade,

792
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 12: even though Jalen Brown is a better player, you still

793
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 12: bought back one hundred million dollars for the next couple

794
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 12: of years. I think Jayalen makes a little bit more.

795
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 12: But I didn't understand that trade whatsoever.

796
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: Your guy Shack said he thinks Joe Ellenbiid's gonna have

797
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: a great year and he's going to be the best

798
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 2: big man in the game.

799
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 12: Well what, somebody gonna kill the joker. Somebody kill the

800
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 12: joker boy, now, listen, No, I think the two winners

801
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 12: in this trade are Maxie and MBU in the trade

802
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 12: and Lebron because they are a better team. And Joel

803
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 12: He's got to be the fourth best player because Maxie

804
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 12: and Brown are the two best players. They're the two

805
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 12: best players on the team. Lebron's the third best player

806
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 12: if he's healthy, and he's the proud of the guy

807
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 12: who can play with Doctor Baltimore. It's gonna be some

808
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 12: growing pains with this team because they all need the

809
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 12: ball to be successful. But make no doubt about it,

810
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 12: Brown and Maxie are the two best players on the team.

811
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 12: Joelle just got to get healthy and he can be

812
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 12: the fourth best player on the team. Now that's gonna

813
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 12: be an adjustment for him because he's just gonna have

814
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 12: to play defense and rebound and he's gonna have to sacrifice.

815
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 12: He probably gonna have to sacrifice the most because they're

816
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 12: not gonna walk to with them three thoroughbreads. They're not

817
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 12: gonna walk the ball up and down the court let

818
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 12: him post up. He's gonna have to concentrate on defense

819
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 12: and rebounding. So he's gonna have to sacrifice the most.

820
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 12: But the number one thing he's got to do is

821
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 12: get healthy. Then he's never played I mean, I'm not

822
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 12: even sure. I shouldn't talk like that. I mean, I'm

823
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 12: pretty sure he hasn't played a full season in five

824
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 12: or six years. So the notion that he's going to

825
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 12: be healthy, you're gonna have to wait and see. And

826
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 12: the same thing with Lebron. But man, it's not gonna

827
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 12: be as easy to just put those four guys out

828
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 12: there and think the Sixers are gonna win the championship.

829
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 3: Okay, let's match up the Knicks with the Sixers.

830
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 5: Who do you like?

831
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 12: You know, I think they gonna miss Mitchell Robinson. I do.

832
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 12: I think they're gonna miss Mitchell Robinson. I think that's

833
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 12: a Pickham series. I think that the none of the

834
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 12: Pistons got to figure out what to do. I didn't

835
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 12: even mentioned him when I mentioned him earlier. They got

836
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 12: to figure out the Jalen during situation. But the East

837
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 12: is gonna be fun to watch, man, even though they

838
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 12: got Lebron and Jalen that don't the Sickers are not

839
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 12: gonna have a Cakewalker. It's gonna be a huge adjustment

840
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 12: for those guys because all four of those guys need

841
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 12: the basketball to be successful, and the ass guys like

842
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 12: that say, hey, I need you to just play defense

843
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 12: a lot. And like I said, it's gonna be the

844
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 12: hardest for Joel, but he he gonna get the ball

845
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 12: at least out of all those four guys, he does.

846
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 12: He have the mindset to be like, you know what,

847
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 12: let me just play defense and rebound and some nights

848
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 12: I'm gonna get big A few nights, I'm gonna get

849
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 12: big numbers. But I just got to play defense and

850
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 12: rebound and that ain't not going to be easy. But

851
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 12: the number one question with the Sixers is their health.

852
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 12: Can can them be and Lebron can they be healthy

853
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 12: for eighty two games, which right now the heart is

854
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 12: probably a hard no. And then what position are they

855
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 12: gonna be in because they're gonna have to if those

856
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 12: guys are unhealthy, they're gonna have to win three series

857
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 12: on the road against really good teams because hey, man,

858
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 12: Indiana might be the sleeper in the East next year

859
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 12: they get Zoo balls back, you know so, but it's

860
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 12: the East is gonna be very interesting going forward.

861
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: We missed you in Tahoe. We were out there and you, uh,

862
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 2: you were really busy.

863
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 12: Apparently, Well that's called winning money, Dan, I was winning money.

864
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 12: So I was like, when you win money, you have

865
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 12: to you have to chose between doublin down on eleven

866
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 12: or doing interviews and you get that face card on

867
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 12: that eleven because you always double down on eleven and

868
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 12: you always dumb it down on ten. If a dinner

869
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 12: don't have a face card showing lake talk was very

870
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 12: profitable for Chuck this year.

871
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: Dan Well scores on the course. I beat you.

872
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: I wouldn't.

873
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that too loudly that you know.

874
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 12: Listen as long as I beat you. And Grant Hill

875
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 12: because gren Hill is a coward too. He's a coward.

876
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: Hill a coward.

877
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 12: He won't play with me. He could see I want then.

878
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 12: I'm like a gunfighter. I want to look at.

879
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 11: You in your eyes.

880
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 12: I want to look at your eyes. Grant Hill won't

881
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 12: play because he know he can't beat me, so I

882
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 12: want to look y'all in the eyes. I'm like an

883
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 12: old school gunfighter. I want to play with you, like

884
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 12: Anthony Anderson. He came out there all blustery, and then

885
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 12: I got to look him in the eyes on the

886
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 12: first t and he crumbled like.

887
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: A yeah, you're you're sounding like you're you know, young

888
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: tiger here. Yeah, a guy who's going to go get

889
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 2: a manny petty acting like a big tough gun slinger.

890
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 12: I know who to go up against though, I said,

891
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 12: you gren Hill and Anthony Anderson. I didn't go out

892
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 12: there and grab the heavy guns. Was fighter. I went

893
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 12: out and grabbed the bottom of it me.

894
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 5: You did.

895
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: Why didn't you go after Dylan dryer in Rich Eisen

896
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: next time?

897
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 12: You know, I think Dylan I love her, but I

898
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 12: think I'm better Rich Eisen. I am. I think I'm

899
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 12: better than Rich.

900
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: I think he finished last?

901
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: Did he?

902
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 3: I think?

903
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 12: You know? Hey, listen, you should be Charles.

904
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: You played golf all the time. You're a former professional.

905
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: You make it sound like you know we should be

906
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: surprised that you can play decent golf.

907
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 3: You played all the time.

908
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 12: I've been Dan, listen, I've been to hell. Shot you

909
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 12: would have they shut out to my coach, staying early. Dan, Dan,

910
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 12: I've been to hell and back. I played one handed,

911
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 12: I played left. I have done it all. I have

912
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 12: done it all, man, I listen. There was a time

913
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 12: when I quit, when I had the years for twenty

914
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 12: some years. It was brutal. I shot boy Jackson Corvin

915
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 12: Auburn wardown Eagle. That was awesome to watch Sunday. We're

916
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 12: so proud of that kid. You know. Auburn went back

917
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 12: to back national championship because of him. He was the

918
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 12: leader of the team. But man, I spilled my whole

919
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 12: Sunday around watching him at the three and that was

920
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 12: beautiful to watch. So Ward Dawn Eagle to our nation. Brother.

921
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: All right, well, good luck with your manny petty, tough guy.

922
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: And uh well, I'll tell Fritzy to leave you alone

923
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: for the next month or so.

924
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 12: Well, there's nothing happening in basketball.

925
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: Okay, but this did, and that's why we were reaching out.

926
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Speaker 12: And I hate and I'm here, Dan. I know I've

927
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 12: never turned you down.

928
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: Dan.

929
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Speaker 12: I know that I'm not doing any more interviews for

930
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 12: like the next month, probably unless somebody in the NBA

931
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 12: get traded it, which is which I will. I will

932
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 12: take you this, Dan, the jail and doing thing is interesting.

933
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Speaker 3: I don't want him at that price, that's the key.

934
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 12: But something you know that there could be a team

935
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 12: that's the best, desperate that might want to pay him

936
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 12: that price.

937
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: You know, the salon, the salons waiting for you.

938
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Speaker 12: Okay, you go, brother, But first of all, I don't

939
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 12: do salons. I don't have that type of mind. I

940
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 12: go to a spa. I mean, I just go to

941
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 12: a regular nail place.

942
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: Come on, Dan, thank you.

943
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 12: Charles all right, brother, appreciate you all.

944
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: That's that's Charles Sparkley