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Speaker 1: The Book of Joe Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey there, welcome back to the Book of Joe podcast.

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Speaker 1: We'd like to call it the most interesting and unpredictable

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Speaker 1: baseball podcast that's out there. You never know who's going

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Speaker 1: to show up. I am Tom Berducci. Of course, Joe

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Speaker 1: Madden is with me again and our special guest Joe.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of Loffyett College day around here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we couldn't get Stephen Crane on account that he died

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Speaker 1: nineteen hundred. He also skipped out of school after one semester.

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Speaker 1: So we have David Benner, All Star Closer and member

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Speaker 1: of Team USA in the WBC. So we got two

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Speaker 1: Leopards on the show today. Joe, you can't get better

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Speaker 1: than that man. You know when you brought up that

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Speaker 1: you were going to get you had a chance to

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Speaker 1: get David on the show, and we were just talking

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Speaker 1: prior to coming on. I was at the homecoming last

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Speaker 1: year and there a coach there, a J. Miller. I

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Speaker 1: was asking him about David. He could not make it.

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Speaker 1: He just told us why because he had just gotten married.

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Speaker 1: But I've been wanting to meet this guy. Truth be

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Speaker 1: Told twenty twenty and the parties are we not what

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Speaker 1: the Angels play? You? An exhibition game of some kind? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly at your ballpark, right. And that's the first time

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Speaker 1: I first time I saw him thrown. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: you were a Leopard at that time, and I said,

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Speaker 1: I asked me, who is that? I mean, who is that?

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Speaker 1: I really liked the arm a lot, and then I

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Speaker 1: brought it up a couple other times with different people,

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Speaker 1: and nobody really researched you enough. I'm listened. Man, that

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Speaker 1: first time I saw you throw a baseball, I don't

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Speaker 1: care if you're from Lafayette or from Moravian, Muhlenberg, any

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Speaker 1: of any of the Lehigh Valley schools. That was impressive.

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Speaker 1: So it's great to meet you finally. And I you're

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Speaker 1: playing in Pittsburgh with my boy Shelty, and I'll shut

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Speaker 1: up for right now, but man, it's great to have

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Speaker 1: you on board. Oh man, thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, thanks for having me. It's a definitely

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Speaker 1: an honor, and that's a that's a big confident coming

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Speaker 1: from me. I'm serious, man. Yeah, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: long career to stay well. Do all your little jobs

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Speaker 1: and all the exercises after you throw. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: take care of your stuff. Macer, you can play for

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Speaker 1: a while. That stuff's that good. Thank you appreciate that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into David's story. Besides the Lafayette it's

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Speaker 1: a fascinating background because we're talking about somebody not just

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Speaker 1: my holy Infield played pro ball, the holy Field from

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Speaker 1: pro ball, and this guy is now on Team USA.

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Speaker 1: I want to start there, David, because I've been following

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Speaker 1: the games obviously, the atmosphere is just tremendous. If anybody

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Speaker 1: playing with this Team USA. It's essentially all star team.

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Speaker 1: What do you tell them? I mean, honestly, it's just unreal. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, just being being around those group of guys

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Speaker 1: because it truly is unbelievable. David, how did the invite

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Speaker 1: Is it's it's really humbling and a huge honor to

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Speaker 1: And did you throw a little bit more prior to

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Speaker 1: effect rolling and then next seeing you know, you kind

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00:20:04,998 --> 00:20:08,118
Speaker 1: of keep climbing throughout the system, keep getting outs, and

426
00:20:08,358 --> 00:20:11,478
Speaker 1: they're turned into an opportunity to be a September call

427
00:20:11,558 --> 00:20:15,598
Speaker 1: up in twenty nineteen, he just described level three right there, Tommy,

428
00:20:15,638 --> 00:20:17,478
Speaker 1: I belong here. I can do this. They've got five

429
00:20:17,558 --> 00:20:20,478
Speaker 1: levels of being a professional. You know, you arrive at

430
00:20:20,478 --> 00:20:22,318
Speaker 1: that point you go through happy to be here. Man,

431
00:20:22,358 --> 00:20:24,998
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be your level one level two survival.

432
00:20:25,118 --> 00:20:27,198
Speaker 1: I really dig to someone to stay here. But your

433
00:20:27,238 --> 00:20:29,718
Speaker 1: mind is all over the place, and then finally you

434
00:20:29,718 --> 00:20:31,478
Speaker 1: wake up one day, you go out there, you look around,

435
00:20:31,518 --> 00:20:33,198
Speaker 1: and you get out on the mound. You pitch well,

436
00:20:33,238 --> 00:20:35,798
Speaker 1: but you look around him and everybody around. You said

437
00:20:35,798 --> 00:20:37,558
Speaker 1: to yourself, man, I can do this. I don't care

438
00:20:37,598 --> 00:20:39,278
Speaker 1: I belong to I can do this with this group.

439
00:20:39,518 --> 00:20:41,358
Speaker 1: And that's when you have a chance to take off.

440
00:20:41,358 --> 00:20:43,038
Speaker 1: But you have to arrive at that point. Otherwise it's

441
00:20:43,078 --> 00:20:45,158
Speaker 1: going to be this ephemeral thing. You're going to go

442
00:20:45,238 --> 00:20:47,078
Speaker 1: up and down, up and down. You don't really believe it.

443
00:20:47,158 --> 00:20:49,518
Speaker 1: Of the moment you believe it, Man, all that stuff

444
00:20:49,518 --> 00:20:51,878
Speaker 1: you've got inside you comes to the forefront nextually become

445
00:20:51,958 --> 00:20:55,318
Speaker 1: really good. I was thinking of that without a doubt.

446
00:20:55,398 --> 00:20:58,398
Speaker 1: It's it's it's really that the confidence that you know,

447
00:20:58,478 --> 00:21:02,038
Speaker 1: really allowed me to you know that, the belief that, Okay, yeah,

448
00:21:02,078 --> 00:21:04,518
Speaker 1: my stuff plays, I can I can get really anybody out.

449
00:21:04,558 --> 00:21:06,518
Speaker 1: And then you know, you kind of take that and

450
00:21:06,598 --> 00:21:10,078
Speaker 1: run with it absolutely and then lo and behold. In

451
00:21:10,118 --> 00:21:12,878
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, he gets traded by the Padres and

452
00:21:12,918 --> 00:21:16,878
Speaker 1: the Joe Musgrove deal, and where does the fighting planet go?

453
00:21:17,198 --> 00:21:20,198
Speaker 1: He's going back home to Pittsburgh. I mean, what was that,

454
00:21:20,318 --> 00:21:24,838
Speaker 1: like David and sharing that news with your family unbelievable. Um,

455
00:21:25,078 --> 00:21:28,118
Speaker 1: you know, I still have to pinch myself, you know,

456
00:21:28,158 --> 00:21:31,078
Speaker 1: every day getting to go and walk in the Pirate

457
00:21:31,118 --> 00:21:33,278
Speaker 1: clubhouse and you know, seeing all the jerseys because I

458
00:21:33,278 --> 00:21:35,438
Speaker 1: was I was a huge Buco fan growing up. So

459
00:21:35,718 --> 00:21:38,918
Speaker 1: now to be a part of it is I don't

460
00:21:38,958 --> 00:21:40,638
Speaker 1: want to, you know, be a dead horse, but it's

461
00:21:40,678 --> 00:21:43,718
Speaker 1: it's it's it's truly unbelievable and I'm so blessed to

462
00:21:43,758 --> 00:21:47,118
Speaker 1: have that opportunity and it really is awesome and amazing.

463
00:21:47,158 --> 00:21:49,918
Speaker 1: And yeah, I initially found out on Twitter and I

464
00:21:49,958 --> 00:21:51,558
Speaker 1: almost didn't want to believe it because I don't want

465
00:21:51,558 --> 00:21:54,038
Speaker 1: to get my hopes up and have something not fall through.

466
00:21:54,038 --> 00:21:55,918
Speaker 1: And then the next day I got a call and

467
00:21:56,118 --> 00:21:58,438
Speaker 1: saying it was official, So then, you know, it was

468
00:21:58,478 --> 00:22:01,158
Speaker 1: just just incredible. You know, my whole family was just

469
00:22:01,278 --> 00:22:04,278
Speaker 1: incredibly pumped up, and my wife, my family, Y'll can

470
00:22:04,478 --> 00:22:07,478
Speaker 1: just drive twenty minutes down to PNC instead of you know,

471
00:22:07,518 --> 00:22:10,478
Speaker 1: hopping on flights and to come see me. So that

472
00:22:10,478 --> 00:22:14,038
Speaker 1: that's been just unbelievable. I love the bird and I

473
00:22:14,038 --> 00:22:16,558
Speaker 1: love that ballpark. That ballpark I think is one of

474
00:22:16,558 --> 00:22:18,718
Speaker 1: the top five and I was baseball. They nailed it.

475
00:22:18,758 --> 00:22:22,158
Speaker 1: They absolutely nailed it. I've never seen the home side clubhouse.

476
00:22:22,358 --> 00:22:26,438
Speaker 1: Visiting site clubhouses is really good enough. But when you

477
00:22:26,518 --> 00:22:28,798
Speaker 1: walk out there, man, it's like it's it's due. But

478
00:22:28,838 --> 00:22:30,198
Speaker 1: it's a taste of the old. The way they have

479
00:22:30,198 --> 00:22:32,438
Speaker 1: the bridges set up out there, you get the skyline.

480
00:22:32,478 --> 00:22:34,198
Speaker 1: I love riding my bike up and down the river there.

481
00:22:34,198 --> 00:22:36,398
Speaker 1: I go by the Hinds, catch up plant, and I

482
00:22:36,438 --> 00:22:38,398
Speaker 1: go through to some kind of Greek church up on

483
00:22:38,398 --> 00:22:41,238
Speaker 1: a hill. I just love the vibe there. I love

484
00:22:41,278 --> 00:22:43,758
Speaker 1: the burg and I could see as a young major

485
00:22:43,878 --> 00:22:46,358
Speaker 1: League baseball player coming from that area, it's gotta be

486
00:22:46,998 --> 00:22:49,958
Speaker 1: gotta be really exciting on a nightly basis. Oh, without

487
00:22:49,998 --> 00:22:52,758
Speaker 1: a doubt. I mean, really do have to pinch myself

488
00:22:52,918 --> 00:22:55,438
Speaker 1: cool man. Hey David, we're talking about you know where

489
00:22:55,438 --> 00:22:58,558
Speaker 1: you got drafted, and we should point out your brother

490
00:22:58,918 --> 00:23:01,838
Speaker 1: Will was a first down draft pick. That's been a

491
00:23:01,838 --> 00:23:05,478
Speaker 1: lot of fun going back and forth about about that

492
00:23:05,598 --> 00:23:07,958
Speaker 1: being being a first rounder and everything like that. Ye

493
00:23:08,118 --> 00:23:11,598
Speaker 1: Will is in the Giants organization. How's he doing? What's

494
00:23:11,598 --> 00:23:13,918
Speaker 1: ahead for him this year? He's doing well? He uh,

495
00:23:14,158 --> 00:23:17,078
Speaker 1: he was banged up a little bit last year, but

496
00:23:17,118 --> 00:23:20,318
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's starting to throw again here shortly,

497
00:23:20,358 --> 00:23:23,598
Speaker 1: and I know, I'm excited for him and the opportunity

498
00:23:23,638 --> 00:23:26,118
Speaker 1: he has with the Giants now to you know, his

499
00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:30,878
Speaker 1: stuff's nasty. I mean, he won the College World Series

500
00:23:30,918 --> 00:23:33,038
Speaker 1: and was a big part of that. So that was

501
00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:34,838
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch him. And it's been

502
00:23:34,878 --> 00:23:37,398
Speaker 1: really cool to see him progress as a you know,

503
00:23:38,358 --> 00:23:40,398
Speaker 1: as a as a baseball player, and you know, watching

504
00:23:40,478 --> 00:23:42,998
Speaker 1: him grow and it's it's really special because you know,

505
00:23:42,998 --> 00:23:45,998
Speaker 1: he's very talented, he works hard, and uh, you know,

506
00:23:46,198 --> 00:23:48,998
Speaker 1: really the sky's the limit for him. And speaking of

507
00:23:49,038 --> 00:23:51,158
Speaker 1: the skies the limit, We're gonna take a quick break

508
00:23:51,198 --> 00:23:53,358
Speaker 1: finish up with David Bednar and I'm gonna ask him

509
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Speaker 1: about what's ahead for the Buckos. To Pittsburgh Pirates. Welcome

510
00:24:06,638 --> 00:24:09,238
Speaker 1: back to the Book of Joe podcast. Our guest is

511
00:24:09,278 --> 00:24:14,518
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher at Team USA. Picture David Bednar. David,

512
00:24:14,558 --> 00:24:16,518
Speaker 1: we talked about the Pirates. We can see some of

513
00:24:16,518 --> 00:24:19,958
Speaker 1: the young talent coming up. O'Neil crue is just amazing.

514
00:24:20,078 --> 00:24:23,438
Speaker 1: The year that Brian Raylds had establishing himself as one

515
00:24:23,478 --> 00:24:25,958
Speaker 1: of the stars of the game. Give me a vibe

516
00:24:25,958 --> 00:24:28,358
Speaker 1: of if you're a Pirates fan and you see some

517
00:24:28,478 --> 00:24:30,438
Speaker 1: of the signs that things are starting to turn a

518
00:24:30,478 --> 00:24:33,358
Speaker 1: corner here, give me a sense of how quickly it

519
00:24:33,438 --> 00:24:35,718
Speaker 1: might happen, and what do you feel being around this

520
00:24:35,798 --> 00:24:39,358
Speaker 1: group of guys. Oh man, there's there's definitely a different

521
00:24:39,438 --> 00:24:42,118
Speaker 1: vibe this year going into screen training, and you know,

522
00:24:42,158 --> 00:24:44,758
Speaker 1: I think everybody's really feeling it, and you know, everybody's

523
00:24:44,758 --> 00:24:48,278
Speaker 1: really bought into you know, obviously everybody's bought into winning,

524
00:24:48,318 --> 00:24:51,078
Speaker 1: but it's it's I think it's more as real now.

525
00:24:51,158 --> 00:24:53,918
Speaker 1: It's it's it's attainable because there's so much young talent

526
00:24:53,958 --> 00:24:56,998
Speaker 1: and adding some veteran adding some veterans to help, you know,

527
00:24:57,038 --> 00:24:59,718
Speaker 1: speed that process up a little bit is really special.

528
00:24:59,758 --> 00:25:02,198
Speaker 1: And it's really cool because you know everybody's looking to

529
00:25:02,278 --> 00:25:05,318
Speaker 1: take that next step forward and you know, individually and

530
00:25:05,398 --> 00:25:08,078
Speaker 1: collectively as a team, and you know, we have some

531
00:25:08,158 --> 00:25:10,678
Speaker 1: exciting baseball and store in Pittsburgh. I mean, I said,

532
00:25:10,718 --> 00:25:13,598
Speaker 1: you have to get to that ascension process and once

533
00:25:13,838 --> 00:25:16,318
Speaker 1: there's really something to be said about learning how to

534
00:25:16,318 --> 00:25:18,198
Speaker 1: win and learning how to win on the major league

535
00:25:18,238 --> 00:25:21,318
Speaker 1: A level, there's going to be some short term goals met,

536
00:25:21,358 --> 00:25:22,798
Speaker 1: and that you have to do that before you reach

537
00:25:22,838 --> 00:25:24,878
Speaker 1: your long term goals. You have to have those short

538
00:25:25,038 --> 00:25:28,158
Speaker 1: term goals met. And I don't know, like that's winning

539
00:25:28,158 --> 00:25:30,798
Speaker 1: each month. I was into winning the week, winning the month.

540
00:25:31,558 --> 00:25:34,558
Speaker 1: From my perspective, you've got to chase the dudes in

541
00:25:34,598 --> 00:25:37,518
Speaker 1: front of you, like within your division. For the Cubs

542
00:25:37,558 --> 00:25:39,518
Speaker 1: it was the Cardinals, of course, and with the Rays,

543
00:25:39,598 --> 00:25:41,878
Speaker 1: it was the Yankees and the Red Sox and Matt

544
00:25:42,038 --> 00:25:43,918
Speaker 1: I just I would just get so jacked up when

545
00:25:43,918 --> 00:25:45,798
Speaker 1: we played those teams, and you played the better teams,

546
00:25:45,798 --> 00:25:48,318
Speaker 1: but you've got you've got to get to them. You've

547
00:25:48,318 --> 00:25:50,278
Speaker 1: got to be able to shake hands on their mom

548
00:25:50,518 --> 00:25:53,438
Speaker 1: on their field after victory, after the ninth inning, and

549
00:25:53,438 --> 00:25:55,998
Speaker 1: when you start doing that consistently, then you start believing it.

550
00:25:55,998 --> 00:25:58,518
Speaker 1: But that's part of the ascension process. But there is

551
00:25:58,558 --> 00:26:01,518
Speaker 1: something to be said when it's it's kind of hard

552
00:26:01,558 --> 00:26:04,398
Speaker 1: to define, like learning how to win, learning how to

553
00:26:04,438 --> 00:26:08,518
Speaker 1: win pretty much as each guy, your team itself, really

554
00:26:08,758 --> 00:26:12,398
Speaker 1: having a common culture, a common method of doing this thing,

555
00:26:12,958 --> 00:26:15,638
Speaker 1: and then there's a strong believability that you're gonna win

556
00:26:15,678 --> 00:26:17,598
Speaker 1: on that night. It's not like, ah, maybe we're gonna win. No,

557
00:26:17,638 --> 00:26:19,478
Speaker 1: we're gonna win. We're gonna win to it, We're gonna

558
00:26:19,478 --> 00:26:22,398
Speaker 1: beat these guys somehow and having a planner method to

559
00:26:22,438 --> 00:26:24,518
Speaker 1: do that. And No, I like your young guys too.

560
00:26:24,558 --> 00:26:26,638
Speaker 1: I think it's great. Like I said, Shelty and the boys.

561
00:26:26,878 --> 00:26:29,158
Speaker 1: I know Andy Hayes really well too. I mean there's

562
00:26:29,158 --> 00:26:30,518
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys there in a chat and

563
00:26:30,558 --> 00:26:32,878
Speaker 1: Noble the roping catching instructor. I mean, a lot of

564
00:26:32,918 --> 00:26:36,038
Speaker 1: cup guys involvement there. But there's a believability that you

565
00:26:36,118 --> 00:26:38,278
Speaker 1: have to You can't think you do. You gotta believe

566
00:26:38,318 --> 00:26:40,718
Speaker 1: you do. And sometimes you have to convince yourself with

567
00:26:40,798 --> 00:26:43,118
Speaker 1: that and eventually you learn how to win without a doubt.

568
00:26:43,278 --> 00:26:45,278
Speaker 1: It's almost like the fake a teammake it thing, right,

569
00:26:45,598 --> 00:26:47,518
Speaker 1: you believe, you gotta believe it. If you believe it,

570
00:26:47,518 --> 00:26:49,118
Speaker 1: you'll see it. It's not to see it and believe it.

571
00:26:49,158 --> 00:26:51,398
Speaker 1: You gotta believe it to see it. That's a Wayne

572
00:26:51,438 --> 00:26:53,478
Speaker 1: dire gig and I've always thought that. I used to

573
00:26:53,518 --> 00:26:56,238
Speaker 1: tell my players that in order you have to believe

574
00:26:56,278 --> 00:27:00,158
Speaker 1: it to see it, and so I think believing comes first.

575
00:26:59,558 --> 00:27:02,438
Speaker 1: About Well, it's been a blast, David. I mean, one

576
00:27:02,438 --> 00:27:05,198
Speaker 1: of the things I love about w BC is Yeah,

577
00:27:05,238 --> 00:27:07,358
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stars there, but it also gives

578
00:27:07,358 --> 00:27:10,398
Speaker 1: the stage, to let's face it, some players who haven't

579
00:27:10,518 --> 00:27:13,638
Speaker 1: gotten into that postseason limelight, maybe not being well known.

580
00:27:13,678 --> 00:27:15,758
Speaker 1: And I think you've jumped out. I know you've pitched

581
00:27:15,758 --> 00:27:18,078
Speaker 1: that one game against Great Britain, but I know even

582
00:27:18,318 --> 00:27:20,558
Speaker 1: people around the team have been impressed with your stuff

583
00:27:20,598 --> 00:27:23,118
Speaker 1: seeing it up close, and hopefully fans to get a

584
00:27:23,198 --> 00:27:25,718
Speaker 1: chance to check you out and keep it up. Man.

585
00:27:25,798 --> 00:27:28,318
Speaker 1: This Team USA has been a rock and roll ride

586
00:27:28,358 --> 00:27:30,598
Speaker 1: and hopefully it's a long run all the way to

587
00:27:30,638 --> 00:27:33,238
Speaker 1: the finish. So really appreciate your time. Thank you guys

588
00:27:33,238 --> 00:27:34,678
Speaker 1: for having me. He's a great talk with you, guys.

589
00:27:34,838 --> 00:27:38,518
Speaker 1: It was a pleasure to visit with David bednar Joet

590
00:27:38,958 --> 00:27:40,998
Speaker 1: not just because he went to Lafayette, but I love

591
00:27:41,078 --> 00:27:42,918
Speaker 1: his story. I mean, you think about a guy drafted

592
00:27:42,958 --> 00:27:46,958
Speaker 1: him the thirty fifth round with probably below average velocity

593
00:27:46,998 --> 00:27:49,038
Speaker 1: at the time, or maybe average velocity, and here he

594
00:27:49,158 --> 00:27:51,398
Speaker 1: is an All star pitcher, He's closing for the Pirate's

595
00:27:51,438 --> 00:27:54,958
Speaker 1: his hometown team, He's pitching for Team USA. It's just

596
00:27:54,998 --> 00:27:58,318
Speaker 1: a great story and as you can hear talking to David,

597
00:27:58,478 --> 00:28:00,798
Speaker 1: just a great guy as well. Yeah, definitely the dream

598
00:28:00,798 --> 00:28:04,438
Speaker 1: come true situation. Bail your surrealism's come true coming from

599
00:28:04,438 --> 00:28:07,038
Speaker 1: a small town in Pennsylvania and get it. I love

600
00:28:07,038 --> 00:28:09,798
Speaker 1: the idea that he's close, his family's close to the ballparkers,

601
00:28:09,798 --> 00:28:12,398
Speaker 1: they're going to make that trek off in those beautiful

602
00:28:12,438 --> 00:28:17,238
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania nights, and what that means to that entire family,

603
00:28:17,278 --> 00:28:19,078
Speaker 1: and him telling a man i've seen him, Pich, this

604
00:28:19,158 --> 00:28:22,518
Speaker 1: guy's good. It's not just okay, it's good. And it's

605
00:28:23,078 --> 00:28:24,958
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, to the fact that he did

606
00:28:24,998 --> 00:28:27,078
Speaker 1: not throw that much coming up because you just can't.

607
00:28:27,118 --> 00:28:30,438
Speaker 1: You just can't throw that much in Pennsylvania, Western or

608
00:28:30,478 --> 00:28:32,958
Speaker 1: Eastern Pennsylvania. The springs he kind of saved your arm

609
00:28:32,998 --> 00:28:35,798
Speaker 1: a little bit. But it sounds like he's got great

610
00:28:35,798 --> 00:28:38,078
Speaker 1: inner strength. And again, I'm looking forward to getting to

611
00:28:38,078 --> 00:28:39,638
Speaker 1: know him better when we get back to campus in

612
00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:41,998
Speaker 1: the offseason. That thanks for getting him on, because that

613
00:28:42,038 --> 00:28:44,398
Speaker 1: was all you and I really appreciate it. That too, well,

614
00:28:44,438 --> 00:28:47,478
Speaker 1: I can tell you too, Joe that in talkative coaching

615
00:28:47,558 --> 00:28:50,118
Speaker 1: staff of Team USA, because let's face it, they haven't

616
00:28:50,158 --> 00:28:53,758
Speaker 1: seen him up close, they're blown away by his stuff.

617
00:28:54,078 --> 00:28:58,038
Speaker 1: I mean this guy has elite stuff, high nineties velocity,

618
00:28:58,158 --> 00:29:01,118
Speaker 1: the breaking ball, the split. He's not afraid to throw

619
00:29:01,278 --> 00:29:04,958
Speaker 1: any of those pitches at any point of account. So hey, listen.

620
00:29:04,998 --> 00:29:06,918
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys to me that has jumped

621
00:29:06,918 --> 00:29:10,518
Speaker 1: out early the WBC that if you didn't know David Bednar,

622
00:29:11,118 --> 00:29:12,918
Speaker 1: you'd better get to know him because he's a force

623
00:29:12,958 --> 00:29:15,038
Speaker 1: in the game. That's what I thought the first time

624
00:29:15,078 --> 00:29:16,918
Speaker 1: I saw him. I said, who is that? And then

625
00:29:17,598 --> 00:29:20,718
Speaker 1: they said David Bednar. Okay, good, and then somebody says

626
00:29:20,718 --> 00:29:22,958
Speaker 1: it's from Loafiet. I said, really, and then it became

627
00:29:22,998 --> 00:29:25,518
Speaker 1: even more interested. Good for him, believe for him. All Right,

628
00:29:25,518 --> 00:29:28,398
Speaker 1: mister Laffiet, you got something to take us out here

629
00:29:28,478 --> 00:29:31,238
Speaker 1: to finish up Lafayette Day on the book of Joe,

630
00:29:32,198 --> 00:29:35,038
Speaker 1: I should have something from the marquee himself, right, Yeah,

631
00:29:35,038 --> 00:29:37,438
Speaker 1: but this is like perfect for all that. I don't

632
00:29:37,518 --> 00:29:39,838
Speaker 1: I can't believe I messed that up. This is from

633
00:29:39,838 --> 00:29:42,918
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson, one of our favorites, and it really applies

634
00:29:42,958 --> 00:29:45,518
Speaker 1: to everything we've just been talking about. The strength of

635
00:29:45,518 --> 00:29:48,718
Speaker 1: the team is each individual member, and the strength of

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Speaker 1: to him. You could see the team Warrior orientation about him.

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Speaker 1: You've been talking about Team USA and everybody's so proud

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Speaker 1: the strength of each remember is the team. I love that,

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Speaker 1: mister Phil Jackson. Do we have it? Very nice? Worked

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Speaker 1: out pretty well for Phil. He went a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did. Okay, it doesn't hurt to have Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan on your side. But you know, I've always I

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Speaker 1: tried to get I try to get together with Phil

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Speaker 1: been a big fan. Yeah. Well, this has been fun.

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Speaker 1: And for those of you who haven't checked out any

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Speaker 1: of the WBC again, you got to check it out, folks.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot going on with March Madness

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Speaker 1: and your teams in spring training, but the star power,

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Speaker 1: the passion of these games, it's it's really baseball. It's

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Speaker 1: best the way that it's played. So make sure you

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Speaker 1: check it out. See you next time, Joe, Nice, Pure Forum,

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Speaker 1: Thank your brother, See you later, man. The Book of

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