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Speaker 1: let's you know, you know, let's BacT like men this time.

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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I mean, how could you spend five

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Speaker 1: And I want to strength you know, I wouldn't say

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Speaker 3: Expected, Now I gave you six or seven chuckles.

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Speaker 2: Some guy made up of our super fans made it.

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Speaker 3: I have to carry this around the train station now.

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Speaker 4: To the New York Penn station.

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Speaker 3: Uh no, I have not. I don't think so. Imagine

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Speaker 3: if an AIDS molecule was a train station. That's what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, all right, we're done here, We're done here.

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Speaker 2: Well would you believe it? The UFC doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: light heavyweight champion, And on December tenth of this year,

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Speaker 2: the final pay per view of the calendar year twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two, we are going to crown him. It might

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Speaker 2: be Maga mat On Calive, it might be Yanblohovich, but

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Speaker 2: it won't be the guys. It was originally supposed to

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Speaker 2: be good thing. We have these guys to do real talk.

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Speaker 3: Like men do.

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Speaker 2: For the UFC two to eighty two pregame preview, that's

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, Chuck Mindon Hall the iceman himself. I am

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas. Welcome, everyone, Welcome, Jen. Don't bury the lead here, Luke.

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Speaker 1: When you speak of crowning on a day like this,

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Speaker 1: oh you must be returning referring to when you murigliata

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Speaker 3: But be it. I butter beat it. I absolutely demolished

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Speaker 3: that commode. How are you doing, boys? Good man?

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Speaker 5: I see he's infected you right away though, like men do.

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Speaker 5: He's got you saying that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's actually pretty stupid, but it's just part

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Speaker 2: of the it's a decent selling T shirt, Yes it.

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Speaker 3: Is, Brian. Why are you wearing the world stupidest socks?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm not allowed to put this chaotic, indifferent piece

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Speaker 1: to my litter liver. Excuse me, But I can flaunt

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Speaker 1: it and wear it just the same, because Luke, you know,

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Speaker 1: dealing with me, I'm a hot dog. You never know what,

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Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna get what you do know

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Speaker 1: it'll be whoen or shaped.

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Speaker 3: Right. How many delta e's are sitting in your tummy?

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Speaker 3: Not a fair accusation at all, Actually, real fair. I'm

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Speaker 3: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Do you know that it comes from you were there

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Speaker 2: when we were. I was there when I was you know,

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Speaker 2: I had a few too many Margarita dri.

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Speaker 4: Get some afternoon Dad Seltzer, what are you rocking out

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Speaker 3: I just can't do the boozing. It just kills me.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty game.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, buddy, I have the boozing, and uh,

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Speaker 2: life is just never the same anymore.

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Speaker 3: I can't sleep. It's the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: But all right here we are last pay per view

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Speaker 2: eighty two, which, by the way, is an interesting card.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a fair way to put it. I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't call it top heavy. No, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't I have been waiting for it.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't call it Dolly Parton man wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 5: if we just can't.

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Speaker 2: How was twenty twenty two for the UFC, in particular

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Speaker 3: What do you think? Steady?

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Speaker 1: But with that said, we didn't get John Jones Orconnor

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Speaker 4: And are we in between right now and crossover stars That's.

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Speaker 5: A topic for another day, right That is a thing

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Speaker 5: So it's we don't have that slam dunk who's fighting

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Speaker 2: They got twenty sixteen Rossie McGrath was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Not anytime soon.

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Speaker 3: Seventy six International Fight Week O? Yes? Which had which

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Speaker 2: Is it I were reaching for a narrative that isn't there.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is lacking the star power of the main

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Speaker 3: So let's go through it one time. Let's set the table.

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Speaker 2: So he says to them, I'm going to be out

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Speaker 3: Can disrespect.

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Speaker 4: This is the least sexiest way it could have gone.

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Speaker 2: This is a great fight.

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Speaker 3: I want to see if Calive is of this legit level.

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Speaker 2: And here's right, here's my point. There is a way

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Speaker 2: The pay per view.

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Speaker 2: You're going to make a Daniel Cormier a fat joke

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Speaker 3: Those be honest about that, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: At least they could do that.

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Speaker 5: They didn't have to like find two guys like you

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for him.

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Speaker 5: Man, he's my neighbor, you know, Like, this is a

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, did UFC make the right move here under

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Speaker 3: Is this the better move for the promotion?

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Speaker 2: These questions are always the wrong questions. It's not really

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Speaker 2: do they do the right thing of the wrong thing.

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Speaker 2: This is a power struggle, and the entity with the

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Speaker 2: I'll fight the guy I just need more time, or

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Speaker 2: me to fight, but okay, I just need more time.

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Speaker 2: And the UFC, everyone knows their number one thing, Chuck

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Speaker 2: Product gets shipped. It derives when it says it's going

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Speaker 2: It at least gets there when it's supposed to get there.

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Speaker 2: And that's how they get their contractual revenue when they

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Speaker 2: so the question is did they make the right choice

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Speaker 2: for who right? For themselves?

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Speaker 3: Yes for Glover, No, no, they didn't right.

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Speaker 1: But even though there's extra side items on this menu

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Speaker 2: Like we'll get to him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to see him too.

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Speaker 1: There isn't that secondary third or really even first hook

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Speaker 2: But they don't.

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Speaker 1: But they're in a position true of for us. They

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Speaker 2: Pay per view is not nearly as significant as it

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Speaker 2: Aren't you not? Aren't you?

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Speaker 1: This is me a way of me summarizing and saying,

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Speaker 2: They partly wanted to do as you indicated, they were

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Speaker 2: And there's a little bit of social media back and forth,

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Speaker 2: but it's like, dude, there's no fucking way Paeda was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's even if he could do it,

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Speaker 3: It's just not realistic. You can't do it. So I understand.

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Speaker 3: But it's just not in the cards. I got it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to it. Everyone is kind of

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Speaker 2: And I get that. I really get it. It's fair,

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Speaker 2: That's the factor, right. They didn't want him off the card.

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Speaker 2: This motherfucker was.

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Speaker 3: But I think they. I think that factors in, I

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Speaker 5: What you just said is exactly right. If you're going

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Speaker 5: It's the guy coming up. And honestly, in that particular division,

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Speaker 3: Parashka pro hashka prashka. We haven't. I've always said no

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Speaker 5: Prasco was a new blood within that division, right, and

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Speaker 5: I think that we see it, and I think people

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Speaker 5: showcase fight for him, now, isn't it? Like this is

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Speaker 5: this is the time, they're going to put him on

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Speaker 1: Now, difficult question, no one wants me to ask, and

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Speaker 1: getting fed up and giving away the title? Now make

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Speaker 1: Vadim Namcough the best light heavyweight in the world again

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna I was just gonna say that, Like, dude,

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Speaker 2: let's say uncliav wins and he wins in a devastating fashion,

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Speaker 2: is anyone going to say decidedly that's the best light

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Speaker 2: heavyweight on Earth based on that performance. I'm sure some might,

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: they would have done an interim title. But to his credit,

437
00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,720
Speaker 2: he gave up the fucking belt, which, by the way,

438
00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:43,400
Speaker 2: I gotta say, speaks enormously to his character as an athlete.

439
00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:44,359
Speaker 3: Said that earlier.

440
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,720
Speaker 5: Yes, that is I think when you you mentioned this,

441
00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,480
Speaker 5: I think you might even tweeted this right away, that

442
00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,600
Speaker 5: those types of injuries can take forever to actually recome from,

443
00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,040
Speaker 5: and you may not come back in the same form realistically,

444
00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,320
Speaker 5: though today's doctors are very good comparatively to the day.

445
00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,800
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, you you I think that's true. That's

446
00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,240
Speaker 5: probably the way it goes. Does he need Tommy John surgery?

447
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. He hasn't really said

448
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:06,639
Speaker 3: exactly what.

449
00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,320
Speaker 2: We don't know what it is. But again I've talked

450
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,439
Speaker 2: about this before. I've had shoulder surgery, and the basically

451
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,600
Speaker 2: I need to think about is the shoulder joint is

452
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,679
Speaker 2: the most mobile joint in your body. If you mean,

453
00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,200
Speaker 2: if you think about your knee, your knee can only

454
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,280
Speaker 2: go really one way, your elbow just the same thing,

455
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 2: but your shoulder can do all kinds of stuff by

456
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,120
Speaker 2: as a result of that, it is also the one

457
00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,760
Speaker 2: with the least amount of stability, and once that stability

458
00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,119
Speaker 2: is compromised, per this like TJ. Billshaw conversation about the

459
00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,520
Speaker 2: shoulder going in and out. Dude, they got to stitch

460
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,399
Speaker 2: it real tight to get it working again. Are you

461
00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,280
Speaker 2: having some issues over there?

462
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,080
Speaker 4: I was sitting on the water would you be louder curious?

463
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,679
Speaker 3: You sure that was a water bottle?

464
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Speaker 2: And so it's like, dude, I remember I had a

465
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Speaker 2: buddy of mine who had laborum surgery and he was

466
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Speaker 2: an athlete, and he got back to the mats and

467
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Speaker 2: I want to say about seven or eight months, and

468
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Speaker 2: that was the fastest scene. It took me about a

469
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Speaker 2: year to feel normal again.

470
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Speaker 3: Well, I think that.

471
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Speaker 5: It does speak to his characters, like your whole thing.

472
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,199
Speaker 5: I think that he probably heard what it is and

473
00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,440
Speaker 5: he knows the extent of his injury.

474
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Speaker 3: I'm sure he's been informed.

475
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Speaker 5: And uh, it's pretty it's confident too, right, Like you're

476
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,159
Speaker 5: pretty confident if you're doing that, if you're saying I

477
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,879
Speaker 5: think he really believes in himself on that level. But

478
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Speaker 5: if you're saying, like, hey, I'm gonna I'm not going

479
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 5: to hold up traffic. I'm just gonna step aside and

480
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,800
Speaker 5: I'll be back to reclaim it when I'm ready. That's

481
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Speaker 5: pretty cool man.

482
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Speaker 1: How long was the recovery in your torn labia?

483
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 3: Oh you're fucking.

484
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 2: Stupid, I mean doing doing vagina jokes? Really is that

485
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Speaker 2: what we're doing?

486
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,679
Speaker 3: Uh? Is this? He was holding sight there and so

487
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,360
Speaker 3: they could get that.

488
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 1: In and try to try to sprinkle in a little

489
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Speaker 1: real talk.

490
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 2: We can get back to the Yeah, yeah, uh you

491
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,199
Speaker 2: see where is Yahn in this whole conversation? In a

492
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Speaker 2: very advantage.

493
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,880
Speaker 3: Everyone's just forgetting about it right, bounce.

494
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Speaker 1: Backhead and would you say solid ask when to remind

495
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 1: us that he who was gonna get some trying to

496
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,679
Speaker 1: remember wreckage against wreckage, to remind us exactly who he

497
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Speaker 1: is and where he still belongs. So he was already

498
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Speaker 1: in the pecking order to get a shot to re

499
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Speaker 1: reinvent himself again.

500
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Speaker 4: Remember he's pushing forty. This was a hell of a.

501
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 1: Turn in his career to go from sort of every

502
00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 1: man in the division to suddenly the champion. Now, I

503
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 1: mean he almost got Glover. What would have been nice

504
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: on a rematch for the title. But even though it's

505
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,160
Speaker 1: it's it's going to be an uphill battle for any

506
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 1: of these guys now that Uncle ives ready to truly

507
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: test himself against the best.

508
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 4: But Yan has a way to not have to beat

509
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 4: Glover or Yearie.

510
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 1: Not saying Uncle elives any easier, He's not, but he's

511
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 1: got a way to now bounce right back in there

512
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 1: and regain the title. And I think if you're Yan,

513
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 1: you look at that Glover loss as the worst night

514
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: of his career, like by far, like everything went wrong

515
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 1: for him, and even said afterwards, I don't know what

516
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 1: was the training camp was, right, but I just came

517
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: out there and fight night and I had nothing.

518
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: At his age that happens. Yeah, I mean, but at

519
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 3: his age.

520
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 5: After he did that, I was like when he was

521
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 5: going into that Rockets fight, I was was like, will

522
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 5: he show up and be diminished? You know, just because

523
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 5: sometimes after you've held the title all that, you've realized

524
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 5: a lot of things in your career.

525
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 3: That already got injured, right and need to get injured.

526
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 5: It was like, I think, like second or third round,

527
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 5: like he was unable to go right.

528
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 1: I think I can argue we saw enough from Yon

529
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: before the injury where it's like he's still dude, you

530
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 1: know he's still.

531
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Speaker 5: Well that's what I so, yes, we are sleeping on

532
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 5: him a little bit because I feel like he's he

533
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 5: kind of showed that he's the same guy.

534
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 3: He's ever dangerous.

535
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 5: We know what he can do up a lot of middleways,

536
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 5: but like he's I think if he lands his power,

537
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 5: you know he's him yielding the.

538
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 4: Belt to Glover. It was almost too easy.

539
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: It was almost like perfect stars aligned Jeremy Lynn and

540
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow Glover to share a hell or high water

541
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: is going to have his moment and he had it.

542
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,239
Speaker 4: Shout out to him.

543
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: But looking back, it's like damn Jan took the knee

544
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: and a bowed down and we had a title change. Yeah,

545
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like he had to go through the

546
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 1: normal hell to lose that. Now credit for Glover got

547
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 1: him down, got him position, subbed him the hell out

548
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: of there. I'm happy for you On to work himself

549
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,719
Speaker 1: back in. The luck turned out in his favor, But

550
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 1: is this all a setup to still get hammered out

551
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: by uncliave at the end of the day.

552
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: So, Luke Thomas, the most.

553
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: Important question we can ask about the Light Every Week

554
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: division right now is how.

555
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 4: Frickin' good is Aunt Caliav?

556
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: We talk about hammers in a cupboard behind us and

557
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 1: right now you know Aunt caliob Islam. I mean all

558
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: these guys that they got large hammers. Okay, How large

559
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: is ant Caliav's peace?

560
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: Though?

561
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: Like is he ready to take over in a Mahachev

562
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: type way? This device sexual drug?

563
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 2: He can't have a human conversation without penises in vagina as.

564
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: The he's worked them in like both.

565
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: As the prism is the prism in which to forward

566
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 2: the conversation, to answer the question about how good on

567
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: calive is?

568
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 3: Now, how large is Johnson is?

569
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Speaker 4: I meant the hammer of potential that he carries, oh,

570
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 4: the hammer.

571
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: Of potential dirt, then the proverbial hammer of uh yeah,

572
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: he's real fucking good.

573
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Speaker 3: He's very very good.

574
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: Uh And and he did have the first debut loss

575
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: to Paul Craig.

576
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 5: He threw that which, by the way, by the way,

577
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 5: he threw the fight he lost in the last few seconds.

578
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 5: I think he was he was a heavy favorite. I

579
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 5: think his camp is like, let's load up on money

580
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 5: right away, this one that will go on our night.

581
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: Well, Craig is Paul Craig, though, is crafty. He's crafty

582
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: that way.

583
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 3: You know, the camp may not understand the subtlety of

584
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: that joke.

585
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: He maybe you maybe get in uh.

586
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: And then he did have a very whole hum performance

587
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 2: against Thiago Santo's where I think he was trying to

588
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: get some round time in and try and be very careful.

589
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: I had as I had to also a motherfucker also.

590
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: But then you know, you saw he did to Anthony

591
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: Smith and you see what demdo. Look to you, not

592
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: once but twice, that random.

593
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 5: Pound on Anthony Smith was it was the other level

594
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 5: man like when he because remember he tried to pull guard.

595
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 5: He had to hurt hurt, then hurt ankle. He tries

596
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 5: to pull guard. But the punches that he was landing

597
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 5: the times of this game where you win still like

598
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 5: we're like, oh my god, those are heavy shot. He's

599
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 5: accurate and he's not afraid of contact.

600
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Speaker 3: But he does.

601
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, you know, he reminds me a little

602
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: bit in terms of sensibility, not so much the fight game.

603
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 2: He reminds me in terms of sensibility of Islam Makachev,

604
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: where like, defensively, dude, my man makes really sound decisions.

605
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: It is hard to beat a guy like that. It

606
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: is so fucking hard to be the guy who doesn't

607
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: make a lot of defensive errors.

608
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 3: And is good everywhere. And it is good everywhere too,

609
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: like you know he was. He's just kinda he's he'll

610
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: set up for the leg kicks.

611
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 5: He'll chop you down that way and then and full

612
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like he'll he'll just wait

613
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 5: you out before he strikes like that.

614
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: So he's in good shape. He's young.

615
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Browns thing like only benefits. Yeah, he's not

616
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 5: going to gas, you know.

617
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: So you know, we talked about again earlier in this

618
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 2: show and then the previous ones about who, like who

619
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: is inevitable. Maybe he's not, like I'm not saying he's

620
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: John Jones inevitable, but like you saw him coming up,

621
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: you're like, ooh, my man, is gonna be a real

622
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 2: big problem for this division. On the other hand, BC

623
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: here and Chuck you can feel this one too. We

624
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: talk about all the time again what is the right answer.

625
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: Everyone else can decide for themselves, but here they're gonna

626
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: have a UFC champion who's got like a direct line

627
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: to cadif, a direct line to ROMs on.

628
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Speaker 1: Giray, ches Mon or Soho.

629
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Speaker 2: Well, neither none of those are championed anymore. And by

630
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: the way, like we do to.

631
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Speaker 3: You for mentioning it, I feel like people some people

632
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 3: don't mention it. I don't even know. Well, here's the thing,

633
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: I don't.

634
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Even know what the point isn't mentioned anymore because no one,

635
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: no one ever cares.

636
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: He's got a direct line to Donald. Again, Colby has

637
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: a direct line to Donald.

638
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 3: You know, first of all, it's the Donald. Yeah.

639
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: You see when Jake's horse took ald bite out of

640
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: crime on Lucas, that actually.

641
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: Fucking euthanized that bit o turn into that turn him

642
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: into had he horse?

643
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: You'd rather eat like a Kentucky Derby winner than like

644
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: some random.

645
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: Dude that was not a Kentucky Derby winner that was

646
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: a pony.

647
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 4: I would slice up to Donald and put some ketchup

648
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 4: on that bitch.

649
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: I bet you would.

650
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 2: I bet you would heathen anyway, questions inevitability about talent level.

651
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna win this fight. Yeah, I think

652
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: he's gonna win it. I won't say easily, but I

653
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: don't think he's going to.

654
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 5: Have to like rally to win, right, is that no,

655
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 5: I agree through, and I think the reason this fight

656
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 5: is intact is for that reason. I think that the

657
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 5: UFC thinks that he'll go in there and do that,

658
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 5: and it's you know, you're only setting the division up

659
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 5: for more possibility in bigger fights, right like if he's

660
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 5: if he's the guy, because I feel like he's been

661
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 5: that guy even going before the Smith fight, we were

662
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 5: talking about him. So I think that that's the that's

663
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 5: the scenario. So I think it's set up basically for

664
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 5: him to win BC. Is this the mogament on Calive show.

665
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 1: It has all the makings where it feels like that

666
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,479
Speaker 1: now you just brought up a couple of times, well,

667
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't otherworldly in this fight.

668
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 4: He was victorious but kind of human.

669
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: But you know, will he come out with the same

670
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: level of just sustained dominance? Is is lawmach have? Maybe not.

671
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a little bit more patient, Maybe.

672
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 3: He's definitely more patient. Yeah, maybe whatever, But there's that inevitability.

673
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: It's tough.

674
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: We're discounting Yan a bit though.

675
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: I mean, if that was Yan's worst night in the

676
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: Glover rematch and it happened and he's right back here.

677
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: Does he need to does he need to get out

678
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: of character a little bit to win this? Because Yan

679
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: can be very poised. Now, look, he went after it

680
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: against dom Ras and chopped down that tree and hit

681
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: him with fight changing, devastating shots and took care of him.

682
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: There's also times where Yan sometimes can play it too safe.

683
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: You play it too safe against a chess master like

684
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: on CALIAV, you're probably setting yourself up to fail. So

685
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: if your team Blohovich, you fell back into a vacant

686
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: title shot here, you just you gotta go for broken.

687
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 4: Stop this guy, don't you chuck polish power?

688
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 3: I would think so only because is he forty? Is

689
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: he thirty nine?

690
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 5: He's getting up there, I think at some point, right,

691
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 5: if you want to regain that title, and his reign

692
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 5: obviously wasn't very long. But if you want to get

693
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 5: that and this is a crazy get from heaven basically

694
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 5: for this guy to do it, he probably should bring it.

695
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 5: I think he should try to sell out. This is

696
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 5: probably is If he loses a decision, he's not getting

697
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: back there anyway, right, you know what I mean? So

698
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 5: I think he should want to sell out at some

699
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 5: point in this fight and go for broke, you know

700
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 5: what I mean, if he has to, we'll see how

701
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 5: it kind of plays out. But if it comes down

702
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 5: to it and he needs to like throw down, I

703
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 5: think he should.

704
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: You know, Look, what is this development of the title

705
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: going vacant? Yeah, we did get a five star fight

706
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: in Yan. I'm sorry Yearie versus Glover gave us easy

707
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: and hopefully you would get a easy Glover rematch. But

708
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: in the post John Jones giving up the title, we're

709
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: coming up on three years since the last time John

710
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: Jones fought February of twenty twenty against Dom Reys. He

711
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: gave up the title shortly after that. Three years into

712
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: the post, John Jones era at two o five in

713
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: the UFC. There still knows How do you describe where

714
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: we're at? Instability?

715
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 5: It was almost like before John Jones, right like there

716
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 5: was there was a new champion.

717
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: It's like when a major major drug kingpin dies and

718
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: all the warring gangs there's now a free being.

719
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 3: Seriously, I'm not going to make.

720
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: Any referend of John's personal life, but I'm saying, like

721
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: you ever seen these places where like you know, when

722
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: Pablo Escobar died or or when they captured Al Chapo.

723
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: Then there's no one figure that controls the rest of them,

724
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: and there's just these warring factions left and right.

725
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: I feel like it's been that.

726
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: It's been a little bit of warring factions, which is

727
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: why on Calive you wonder is like that.

728
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 3: Is he the air to John Jones? I don't think

729
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 3: that's quite right.

730
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: But is he a stabilizing force at the championship level

731
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: at two o five?

732
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: He might be right, he might be once he gets it.

733
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: It's not like you look down the horizon you're like,

734
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 2: who's gonna take that from him?

735
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: It's not obvious.

736
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 5: It's funny how history like you go through history and

737
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 5: you have to see it play out. But you could

738
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 5: actually start to point out that John Jones's reign is

739
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: more impressive than about anything, given that it was like

740
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 5: that beforehand. You know, Machidah, who, Rashad Evans, all the

741
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 5: guys that had it. It was just kind of a rampage.

742
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, rampage all gave it and they all had no

743
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: title defenses and handed off to each other.

744
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: Until and then he comes in and he's there. Yeah,

745
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: it's just a it's a crazy testament to how good

746
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 5: he is all right.

747
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: Well, we could spend all day talking about this man event,

748
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: but we'll have to get to other.

749
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: Well, I want to real quick, do you close we

750
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: said that? Hey, great move by everybody accepting and making

751
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: it happen. Do you look at Glover and so you

752
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: missed an opportunity or in the long run home stand?

753
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: How old is glover our age forty two? All this ship,

754
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 2: Glover's old as fuck, dude, Here's what there is. He's

755
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: as for an athlete's as the fuck all right, he

756
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: knows himself. If there is anything Glover knows at this point,

757
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: it is smart, right, who am I? And what do

758
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: I have to do to win? And also, like you know,

759
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: Glor's like, I'm not doing this bullshit anymore. You know,

760
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: I'm not taking any short off. And and whether it's

761
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: the right call the wrong call, it all depends on

762
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: how things go. But you gotta you gotta stand up

763
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: for what you not as you believe him, but like

764
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: who you are at this point, I'm sure he made

765
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: the right call, at least for himself.

766
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 5: He's got his Jim flourishing just got out up there

767
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 5: like at the title.

768
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, You're not going to be

769
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: pliable on short notice. Dude, You're not. You're just not.

770
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: I think that's what it comes down to. He's a

771
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 5: pretty smart guy. Yeah, so it experienced Bibe on.

772
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: His way to winning Coach of the Year because I

773
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: like Glover as a good coach. Team Vador had a.

774
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: Good year, had a pretty good year. Yeah, yeah, I

775
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: don't know. I haven't really put that is Glover considered.

776
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: The brains of this who's the brains fully of of

777
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: Glover to share?

778
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 5: Well they got they got kind of blasted on that card.

779
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 5: It was a well termine.

780
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, termin loss lost.

781
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 5: Term Wellington, Wellington Turman and then Dominic Grays who spent

782
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 5: his camp there, got blasted.

783
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: So nobody's Glover like the chief strategist behind the scenes

784
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: or is it a partnership with him and Phillies? Like

785
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: how do we look at that same thing I asked

786
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: about to be fair, same thing I asked about Habib,

787
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: who stepped into the role that his late father had,

788
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: but also has Javier Mendez and Aka and that full

789
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: team by a side. So it's like, you never know,

790
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: how do you juggle out the sharing the blame and

791
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: sharing the credit?

792
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 5: You know, I think you just take as much credit

793
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 5: as you can, and then when ship goes bad, you

794
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 5: try to get rid of that.

795
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: You know, you don't take no responsibility. That's how you

796
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: roll connectic. It sucks shorthand for fanatic to take away

797
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: from this conversation. All right, let's move on.

798
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: He wouldn't last a week when you come from it.

799
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: Why because I have meth shoved in my face. Probably

800
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: there's a.

801
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: Meth problem out there. I'm not gonna lie there was

802
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: a meth problem DC.

803
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but all right, let's talk about the co main event,

804
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 2: which is an interesting one for very different reasons.

805
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I even called this the comin event.

806
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm not here to shill on this car.

807
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: Okay.

808
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: I liked a lot of what this card offers, but

809
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: this is not a event.

810
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's main event. It's interesting, it's.

811
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 6: It's another fight on the card. Here's what I would say.

812
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 6: It's a fight that's in the co main event position. Yes, right,

813
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 6: Pimblet is back taking on this time an escalation I

814
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 6: do believe, I think a fair one in Jared Gordon.

815
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: Now that's my opinion. Yes, so let me go to

816
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: you first, Chuck.

817
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: My opinion is this is the right step up for

818
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: him and people forget like Patty's got over twenty fights,

819
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: like it's kind of time to start pushing them a

820
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: little bit. The guys they were giving him early, he

821
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: was just pounded on. Jordan Levet was a decent step

822
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: up and wasn't enough fair enough Jordan, excuse me?

823
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: Jared Gordon seems like an even better version.

824
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: Gordon Levitt Third Rock from the Sun, who was he

825
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: has the Robin in the Batman movie The True but.

826
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: Five hundred Days of Summer with with that snack?

827
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, keep going. Sorry, I mean she was

828
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: kind of were you about to describe a female as

829
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: a snack? Yeah?

830
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: I realized that was the wrong door to ender.

831
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: You ever like to be out a party at Yukon

832
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: and you're like willing to get high in so, but

833
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: then you open the door and there's like rocking there

834
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: and football players not Dwayne Johnson, I mean, like you know,

835
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, I don't, I don't, I don't

836
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: mind party at this level guys, you know, and they

837
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: give you that grunt. Anyway, you got to close the door, facial.

838
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know that room was there, but that

839
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: was the bathroom. You know, it turns out like no,

840
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: that's where.

841
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: It's a long way for like Gordon Rabbit should step up.

842
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: That's the story.

843
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 5: A good step up for Patty Pibolet I think so, man,

844
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 5: I mean, he has been around a little bit. You're

845
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 5: not gonna find a lot of b roll on the

846
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 5: guy because the bottom line is, I think his first

847
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 5: fight was his only finish in a victory. Sare Gordon,

848
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so he's gonna finish it off Levit as well. No, No,

849
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 5: I'm talking about Gordon. Oh yeah, yeah. I mean he's

850
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 5: just been uh, I mean, he's been a guy who's

851
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 5: he's a grinder. He's gonna he's gonna give you good fight.

852
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 5: I think in some ways.

853
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: That he's one four of his last Yeah, he hit us.

854
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: So this ain't Aaron Blanchfield versus Molly Metball in terms

855
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: of the hype. May get get sliced here if you're

856
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: not for real. This is another look great surviving evans

857
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: continue the build of Patty, I mean toward the ultimate

858
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: cash out eventually, is that.

859
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: What this is?

860
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 5: I think so, I mean, I do think it's strategic

861
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 5: to an extent. It could backfire and if it does,

862
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 5: it's going to be spectacular a backfiring because if Gordon

863
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 5: wins it like it's going to be a boring fight.

864
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 5: Don't you think if he's able to kind of nullify

865
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 5: and make the fight go the distance or something like that,

866
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 5: that means we've got a boring fight and that takes

867
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 5: all the sheen off of this.

868
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: Patty pimblet how do you think? Wait, so tell me

869
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: what you think. How is Jared Gordon going to fight?

870
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I could see him just trying to nullify,

871
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 5: just try to get through, Like early on, I think

872
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 5: he's going to Like if you've watched any tape and

873
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 5: you know the dude as a showman, you know that

874
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 5: Patty's going to go out there.

875
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: He wants to do it.

876
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 5: He's all about the fifty thousand dollars bonus still, he's

877
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 5: at that part of his career. He wants to just

878
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 5: go out there and put on a show, get paid,

879
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 5: the bonus, all that stuff. So I think that if

880
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: he's able to just survive, persevere, maybe be slower, and

881
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 5: I you know, come on late mid round or mid

882
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 5: mid mid fight and start to take it, that's probably

883
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 5: his best path to win. I don't see him beat

884
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 5: like maybe like I know that you watch these fights

885
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 5: a lot more analytically than I do. But to me,

886
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 5: that's what the smart play would be, like, survive whatever

887
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 5: he's going to bring early and then slowly take the

888
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 5: fight Brian down.

889
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 1: It's the anal and analysis, if you will, right, Yeah, Luke,

890
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: where are we in the Patty experiment on the idea what.

891
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: Holes Dix and vaginas the Brian Campbell experience over?

892
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: If I could be candid with you for a second, Luke,

893
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: where are we on the Patty experiment? Meaning when he

894
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: comes on the scene, he looks overrated because he's so

895
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: flashy and he talks a big game and he's got

896
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: this Connor Junior vibe going for him. Well, then he

897
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: comes out and shows us a ground game and get

898
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: some finishes, and then you're wondering, hey, man, maybe he's

899
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: a you know, maybe he's a little bit of a

900
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, crazy like a fox. Maybe he's better than

901
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: we actually realize. Where is he right now entering the

902
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Gordon Magic?

903
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: This will tell us a little bit more. I will

904
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: tell you just what the tape shows. The tape shows

905
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: that he does have a good ground game. It's very

906
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: good ground game, Like he's real good. He is excellent

907
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: at finding the back. He has excellent attacks and submission

908
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: finishes and set ups from the back, like he's a

909
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 2: back specialist. I really would say that, And that's really

910
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: and he's got more than just the backer. He can

911
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: do other things on the ground. But like his ground

912
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: game's legit. His wrestling is okay, and his striking is

913
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: not great at all, and his striking defense is poor.

914
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: I would actually say.

915
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: You can have not great striking but have great finishing ability.

916
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: Is he a legitimate finisher in your eyes?

917
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: Or no?

918
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah I think he does. I think he can.

919
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: I mean the problem is like sometimes he takes like

920
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: hillacious punches that like force him to regain his balance,

921
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: and so you know that doesn't move the fight in

922
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: the direction that you're looking. But I would say is

923
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: here's what I'll say about Patty. Once he starts rolling downhill,

924
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: the avalanchees on. Yeah, right, once he starts getting into

925
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: that groove, guys have a real hard time catching up

926
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: with it. And so you're to your point, Yeah, survive, survives, survive,

927
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: and then goes We'll.

928
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 5: Say that he's got a like almost an intangible advantage

929
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: in that he's been in big spots before he ever

930
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 5: got to the UFC. This is just something that people,

931
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: you know, he's the piece, probably already the biggest star

932
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 5: in Liverpool, you know what I mean, like in terms

933
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 5: of fighting, at least at least that heading into the UFC,

934
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: he'd already sold out big arena arenas.

935
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 3: I think he believes he's meant for that sort of spotlight.

936
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 5: So being thrust into a col main event that type

937
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: of thing, I feel like he's going to handle it

938
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 5: just fine. I don't really feel like he's going to

939
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 5: He's also a lot won and lost a title. He's

940
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 5: went through some dark, depressing times. Was it the sore

941
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 5: and box the whole thing. Yeah, And then he had

942
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: that grappling match too, where people were like, dude, I

943
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 5: think he might be now on the you know the

944
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 5: one I'm talking about. He lost, like he got submitted

945
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 5: in a grappling match and there was just some doesn't

946
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 5: mean I mean, they don't mean much, but there was

947
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 5: a moment in time and like he he was nursing

948
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 5: an injury, and I think he went through a lot

949
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 5: of adversity already behind the scenes because anybody's just UFC

950
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: centric didn't see all this, but he talks about it

951
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 5: all the time.

952
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: I just think it plays to his advantage.

953
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 5: I think that if he's playing with house money right

954
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 5: now a little bit, he knows how to use it.

955
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 5: He knows how to ride a hot streak, and I

956
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 5: would expect he's going to try to keep that rolling

957
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 5: in this fight, you know what I mean. I don't

958
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 5: think he's going to ever devolve into a guy who,

959
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 5: uh just fights to just get by, Like he's going

960
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 5: to want to go out there and finish and I

961
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 5: don't know. I mean, I just get the sense that

962
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 5: he's big for the moment, like he's going to know

963
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 5: how to handle the moment. Whereas Gordon, I'm not sure

964
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 5: he's ever been in a fight this big before because

965
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 5: obviously we know who the A side of this is

966
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 5: and you're trying to take the guy's juice, which is

967
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 5: hard to do.

968
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: So I feel like.

969
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 5: There's going to be like an intangible well Gordon fought

970
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 5: much better fight. Yeah, of course, a significantly better fighter,

971
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 5: but there's.

972
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: Something to that ability to rise in the moment, which

973
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: may explain some of that McGregor magic. Whereas there was

974
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: that points where he would be winning fights in ways

975
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: thirteen seconds. Over all though that you're like, no, I

976
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: mean he could be that good, but nobody saw this coming. Well,

977
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: maybe he's just so great in the moment he can

978
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: raise himself. I would agree that Patty does have some

979
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: of that. I think so some of that macnus. And

980
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: remember that's a skill that's not a random in Vegas.

981
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: It was at the Apex. He's not cut out for Apex,

982
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: he still was able to put on a show.

983
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 5: I think, feeding off the energies his first time in

984
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 5: a real big arena in America like this, you know

985
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 5: where the Vegas crowd. I think he looks at himself

986
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 5: as the main event, like he's going to go out

987
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 5: there and have to perform. He's the most popular fighter

988
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: on this main card by a month. Oh yeah, I mean,

989
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 5: look at that dog video of the dog poop video.

990
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 5: You know, you just see that like viral, you know what.

991
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Kim, Yeah, yeah, Well, let me ask you a question

992
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: about Patty's true potential here, because.

993
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: Everybody he's going to keep winning and they should win

994
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 4: this one. He should win this one.

995
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: I think so if he's going to keep winning inevitably,

996
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: we're going to be in the talk of I don't

997
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: want to call a cash out moment, because when you

998
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: say cash out, it means that you know one's not

999
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: gonna win the big one, So what's the moment you

1000
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: can get them into the biggest fight.

1001
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: But in some ways it is s right.

1002
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: Is his biggest fight going to end up.

1003
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: Being when he gets close enough to a title shot

1004
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: that the UFC makes it happen because of the brand?

1005
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: Or is it going to be where he gets so

1006
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: popular because you know, he says to himself a lot.

1007
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: He says, Look, Connor's looking for a comeback opponent him

1008
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: versus me. Connor and Patty's going to take numbers that

1009
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: people don't even realize. Will it end up being something

1010
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: like that before it'll be number one contender fighter, before

1011
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: it'll be title shots?

1012
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I do feel like I don't know.

1013
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 5: You do tell me there is a little bit of

1014
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 5: a novelty feel to him, like it doesn't feel entirely

1015
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 5: like he's a real contender. To me, it just feels

1016
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 5: like he's, well, he's not fighting anyone right exactly. I mean,

1017
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 5: he's he's not fighting anybody ranked right right, And I'm

1018
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: not saying he's supposed to be. In fact, I think

1019
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 5: the UFC has done a really good job building him along. Yeah,

1020
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: but like people have to look at the larger picture here.

1021
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 5: He has a lot of experience on the international scene.

1022
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 5: He's had what now, four fights in UFC. This will

1023
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 5: supposed to be his fourth. I think some of the like.

1024
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 2: That, and he fought guys that for the most part

1025
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: except for the last one and now this one or

1026
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: really not even UFC material exactly.

1027
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: So it's like, dude, they're soft.

1028
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: Pedaling the shit out of him, which, again I want

1029
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: to be clear, I think is the right call, but

1030
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: it should also inform your judgment. Yeah, I don't know

1031
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: if he's got championship potential on this. I want to

1032
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: ask you, what.

1033
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: Are they holding him for If they are soft pedaling,

1034
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: which they kind of are. Is it to put him

1035
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: in there with an aging superstar?

1036
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: You know? Is that his title listening? I think there

1037
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: was one thing that they I'll say this to the

1038
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: UFC man, there was one thing they did with Connor

1039
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: McGregor I thought was really smart. People don't remember this anymore,

1040
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: but there was a time when Connor was accused through

1041
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: UFC or whatever, of oh, he's avoiding all the wrestlers

1042
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: in this division, and the big one was at the

1043
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: time the chefmanis he eventually had to face was the

1044
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: late notice thing. But the big one was Frankie Edgar.

1045
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: They wanted him to fight. All the fans were like, Okay,

1046
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: this is great, You're fighting the Dennis Severs of the world.

1047
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: You fight Frankie, he's gonna fuck you up.

1048
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: And maybe at that time he would have as a

1049
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: matter of fact, But what the you FC calculated on

1050
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: was a very smart bet. What they bet on was, Okay,

1051
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: if he's good enough, then eventually he's going to get

1052
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: to a point where you just can't avoid these fights.

1053
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: They're going to just be there. But if we give

1054
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: him just enough time on this.

1055
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: Journey up the highway, if he continues to actually work

1056
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: in the gym and he actually gets better, then by

1057
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: the time he gets to the point where those fights

1058
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: are no longer unavoidable, he's gonna win some of them. Anyway,

1059
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 2: they're making some kind of a similar bet on Patty.

1060
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: Let's give him as much time as we can reasonably

1061
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: speaking to see where he ceiling's out and he'll just

1062
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: get however much better he gets in that time, we're

1063
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: going to give him all of that, and then eventually

1064
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: he'll just be who you.

1065
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: I need a top of your brain answer from both

1066
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: of you. Are right?

1067
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: Imagine if Patty wins this in the next move actually

1068
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: was break all glass Connor Patty at Croke Park.

1069
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 3: We're going all in here.

1070
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: How many pay per view buys in twenty twenty three

1071
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: and who wins Topier dome Go.

1072
00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: Connor smokes them?

1073
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: That's a lot of one. I would say that, that's yeah,

1074
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 3: one in ages.

1075
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: Although' connor looks like he's going to be fighting on

1076
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: Calia at this point. I mean that motherfucker is I

1077
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: showed you that, I show you the pictures and we

1078
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: were at lunch today. He's fucking Jim.

1079
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: He looks yoked out of his mom walking around. I

1080
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: don't even know. Man got to be too right though,

1081
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: I've seen got to be seen the photos way more

1082
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: than to does he say he's to sixty five. He's

1083
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: not too sixty five. He's not but two fifteen.

1084
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: It's not that creatine puff that we said around ninety eighteen.

1085
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 3: And around that's probably in play.

1086
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, only he's not taking creatine, He's taking the goods.

1087
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 3: Good for him? All right, madam?

1088
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 4: What role will he play in this new uh, this

1089
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 4: new roadhouse? What's he playing? Like the Sam Elliott role?

1090
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: Think you think I care? Sam?

1091
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't.

1092
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 4: Are you into that doctor that Swayze bagged in the

1093
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: original role?

1094
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 5: Yes, I am, but it's been a little bit.

1095
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 2: He's an honest man. Do you know what I'm saying?

1096
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 5: It's a dry a minute, disgusting pig.

1097
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: Why what?

1098
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 3: I just haven't seen that movie and so on. I

1099
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: can't even remember, Chuck, how you know how?

1100
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 4: First of all, how do you talk to an angel?

1101
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: And how do you hold her close to where you are?

1102
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: You know? Or at that portion of the show already

1103
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: I thought were a serious discussion. I guess the gummy's kicked.

1104
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: But to answer your question, McGregor wins that fight easily. Yeah.

1105
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: Still, I think that'd be a spectacle, and I'm into

1106
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: making spectacles.

1107
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 5: So I don't know who the I don't know beyond this.

1108
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 5: This is, like you mentioned, it's the appropriate escalation from

1109
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 5: where he was. Now what does that mean for his

1110
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: next fight?

1111
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: You know?

1112
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 5: I still feel like he should fight a guy that

1113
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 5: he can showcase. Why would you mess with that, especially

1114
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 5: because they do have a they do have an England

1115
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 5: card planned in March. I think something like that or April.

1116
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 5: I forget what it is, but he could be on that,

1117
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 5: although if you ask him, he says he's done with

1118
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 5: all of that.

1119
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: He's only doing pay per views.

1120
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 5: From this point on, are said, yeah, he's he that's

1121
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 5: what and I believe him if he goes through this

1122
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 5: is if he's a pay per view draw those names

1123
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: then have to escalate and the other part, now you've

1124
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 5: got to start.

1125
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: Well, you're either fighting a top seven lightweight who you

1126
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: have a chance of getting solved, or you're fighting an

1127
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: aging name.

1128
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: Which ones are going to be first?

1129
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: That's I would bet on an aging name somebody like that.

1130
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 5: Would you say, so a guy that they pretty sure

1131
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: that it would be evenly matched at that point, you

1132
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 5: know what I mean?

1133
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: I don't still beats him.

1134
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: A yeah. No, they're not gonna do Rdia. It's gonna

1135
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: be someone a little more plus plus. Like again, where

1136
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: are Patty's strengths. They are in the ground. Yeah, I

1137
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: don't know if that one really works. It'd have to

1138
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: be someone a little bit more shop worn, although I

1139
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: guess we'll find out by the time this comes out,

1140
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 2: we'll know, but that's when we record this today.

1141
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: We'll see.

1142
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 2: Nevertheless, how big is a win here, because to your point,

1143
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 2: the name isn't going to really blow up the thing,

1144
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 2: but he has a way of turning a mundane kind

1145
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: of situation and making it just a fucking feature.

1146
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 5: And I think that what nineteen thousand and twenty thousand

1147
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: people at T Mobile, this is a big moment for

1148
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 5: him because we've seen him in England. Of course that's infectious.

1149
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 5: You see that kind of crowd every the way they're

1150
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 5: reacting to their guy. But this is now America, and

1151
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 5: I feel like he's going to get the same thing,

1152
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 5: you know, so well, just the whole barstool thing and stuff.

1153
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: I was going to ask if Molly after this lost

1154
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: to Blancheville, is she going to be allowed to run

1155
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: wild and put Patty on her shoulders or are they

1156
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: going to be like it's going to mute her out.

1157
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: A little bit.

1158
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: It's a good question.

1159
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 5: She was clearly affected by not having him there at

1160
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 5: Madison Square Garden, so there are two pieces in a pod.

1161
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 3: I don't think him not being there had fuck all

1162
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: to do with it you think of his crucifix's regards. Yeah,

1163
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: she ran into it. She's just that good. She ran

1164
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: into a fucking bulldozer. That was money, lion hammer of

1165
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: the month.

1166
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, let me just tell you that was I

1167
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: can't believe that that was Cortinoy put a bet that big.

1168
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, Molly's a good fighter. Wait, what was

1169
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: his bet?

1170
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: Don't ten grand dude? You guys, well just set the

1171
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: ship on fire like he can do that. He could fine,

1172
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 2: but like for entertainment value would have been better.

1173
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, that was never going to any

1174
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 3: other way than the way it went. That was a

1175
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: brutal beat done.

1176
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: Okay, we're just completely underplaying the fact that Jared Gordon

1177
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: could win this fight.

1178
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: Although could very much happened.

1179
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: Hard to say we will happen in his career because

1180
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: I think that there is some level of star attainability,

1181
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: which there's probably not going to be there. Nevertheless, it

1182
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: would be by far the biggest win of his career.

1183
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, he had a lot of

1184
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: hypecoming as this guy that like overcame addiction. He had

1185
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: some nice wins early on he's been somewhat forgotten a

1186
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: little bit by I think the fan base. Yeah, what

1187
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: does a win do for him?

1188
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 5: It makes him a hated figure in the UFC, you know,

1189
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 5: like you know, so yeah, but in a weird way,

1190
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 5: I think it was especially let's just say that easiest,

1191
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 5: you know, the thirty twenty seven No, just to the

1192
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 5: fan base, because you know what, you know what it's like,

1193
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 5: you have a and I'm not I'm being sort of facetious,

1194
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I think that it's an

1195
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 5: unenviable task to say, go fight Paddy Pimlet, right when

1196
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 5: he's supposed to be making his run. We're debuting him

1197
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 5: out in Vegas in front of this big crowd, you know,

1198
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 5: like he's now the co main event, and then you

1199
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 5: go beat him. That's a think it'd be like Liz

1200
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: Carmuch blown up Ronda Ralsei right out of the gate

1201
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 5: or something, you like, well, a face crank, you know

1202
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 5: what I mean. Everything we were trying to build you

1203
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 5: just destroyed.

1204
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1205
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 5: I think there'd be some mixed feelings about that. But

1206
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 5: at the same time, that's that's still not a bad

1207
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 5: thing like for him, you know what I mean, Like

1208
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 5: it's still gonna be a big win for him. I

1209
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 5: just think that you tear down a lot of the

1210
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 5: fun that's supposed to be.

1211
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: Kind of like when Mike Jackson was like riding Cowboy

1212
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: in the back of the punk It's like, you know,

1213
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: the UFC was like, all right, dude, did he end

1214
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: up getting another shot?

1215
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: Though? But he got sent.

1216
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 5: Kind of like that actually someone something like that. I

1217
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 5: don't know if Mike Jackson. I think people are just like, wow,

1218
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 5: that was pathetic everything we just watched.

1219
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: But wow, yeah, fucking old bitter ass, Yeah, bitter ass

1220
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: ice man in.

1221
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: Here, Chuck.

1222
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 4: What's your real full name again?

1223
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: It's it's it's a majestic What is it? George Charles

1224
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: mindon all the fourth? Wow, dude, that is do you?

1225
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's a white name.

1226
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: Your family have a long history of pyote in the

1227
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: in the Rocky Hunt.

1228
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 3: Tay did your family? Did your family slaughter a bunch

1229
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: of Native Americans? Not personally?

1230
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: Wow? Well what I mean do you hear his name?

1231
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: I mean it's like.

1232
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: Lord George Wile Twirler.

1233
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about some of other fights on

1234
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: this card, because, as you indicated, it's there's no real

1235
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: one shining star.

1236
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: There's a few interesting points.

1237
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: Well, Robby Lawler versus Santiago Ponzinibio, give us the old

1238
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: guy action we're craving or will be the sad version

1239
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: of this is just like.

1240
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 3: It's sad as balls.

1241
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 5: Well, it's similar right to the International Fight Week, wasn't

1242
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 5: it was Lawler on Barberina, right like for the Swing

1243
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 5: bout and it.

1244
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: Was Barberina or the Diaz want to forget at this point,

1245
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 2: I want to make a point here about Robbie Lawler.

1246
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: I saw this, uh in thinking about this thing we're

1247
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: gonna shoot. Listen to Robbie Lawler's resume. Now, if I

1248
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: had to ask you, what was the last guy he

1249
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: beat who's not retired, you would say, well, Nick Diaz.

1250
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: But Nick Diaz had been retired, he had come out

1251
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: of retirement to fight him. Should have maybe stayed in retirement.

1252
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: So if you discount that before that was it ready

1253
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: for this? Neil Magne loss, Colby Covington loss, Ben Askron lost,

1254
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: Halfel Desanjos loss, fought Donald SERRONI, who's now retired, fought

1255
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: Tyron Woodley, who's now retired from MMA, fought Carlos Condit

1256
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: won but retired, fought, Rory McDonald won, but he's retired,

1257
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: Johnny Hendrix, who's retired. Matt Brown. Matt Brown is basically

1258
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: the last name, which, by.

1259
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 4: The way, only because he's immortal.

1260
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, that one was good as a dad joke,

1261
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: but that was a good July of twenty fourteen. Dude, Wow,

1262
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: I don't think he should be fighting? Can I just

1263
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 2: say it out loud?

1264
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: On you can? He's been fighting.

1265
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: He's been fucking fighting ready for this pro debut that

1266
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 2: predated nine to eleven.

1267
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: And I mean you got to.

1268
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 4: Ring wars and Bettendorf do they didn't f around back,

1269
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: I say.

1270
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: And the weight cutting too.

1271
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just think back to the Bettendorff the whole thing, like,

1272
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 5: guys were fighting.

1273
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: And straightforce Robbie was in yours. Hey, guess what UFC

1274
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: Robbie was in? Men you mentioned Matt Brown or he

1275
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: has three fights that pre date nine to eleven.

1276
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: Three of them you mentioned Matt Brown.

1277
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 5: Was it was Matt Brown, There was Hendrix, McDonald and Condit.

1278
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 5: That was the That was the most brutal four fight

1279
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 5: stretch for everybody involved.

1280
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: Oh and he was the disher out of that punishment,

1281
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: and he accepted a lot of it.

1282
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 5: But I mean they were all they're all crazy. Fights

1283
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 5: altered that division altered those guys, all of them. McDonald

1284
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 5: never came out of the sand condit didn't come out

1285
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 5: the same, and Lawler didn't.

1286
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: Come out the same. Fascinating they still going.

1287
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: But I agree with were any of those, any of

1288
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: those never the same because you saw or was that

1289
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: all just the damage?

1290
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 3: Probably some U saw I had to do with it.

1291
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: And also, like to the point that I made earlier,

1292
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: like if you just listened to the names that I read,

1293
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 2: he wasn't fighting chumps, Woodley, dos On, Joe's Askrin Colby,

1294
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: and the ascrid fight was weird because of how it

1295
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 2: was uticat my god.

1296
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

1297
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: And then but like losing to Magne Neil Magne was

1298
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: like eh. And then here's the big one. He lost

1299
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: to Brian Barberina, who is a good fighter, but like

1300
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: the very best version of Lawler would have fucking torched

1301
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: that guy.

1302
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: Well, guess what that version is not coming through the store.

1303
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: It's Brian Barbrita's time. Yeah, that's that's the thing you're saying.

1304
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: It would have been interview it would have been a

1305
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: decent interview, would probably not.

1306
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 2: But the what I'm trying to make is, dude, Robbie

1307
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: Lawler is I mean, I don't.

1308
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 5: Know what he at that point where they're like, Okay,

1309
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: if you don't win this, it's time.

1310
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 3: I don't think that.

1311
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that they want him to the

1312
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: dude Dana White never wants to get up there. And

1313
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: Dana's defense, yea, he never wants to get there in

1314
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: the press conference and be like I think my man

1315
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: should retire. He doesn't want to do that, but he

1316
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: will if he has to.

1317
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, would you say Robbie has unfinished business? When

1318
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: you look at his tramp stamp, its it looks incomplete corright, Seriously,

1319
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Robbie's tattoo coming out of his ass cract, you know

1320
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about.

1321
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 3: It's not coming out of his ass cract.

1322
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: No, but doesn't always look like he was like he.

1323
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: Left the chair because some kind of like Asian calligraphy.

1324
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: But it was almost like, yeah, I'm gonna come back

1325
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: in a couple of months when I save up.

1326
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: Fight.

1327
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 4: He just never came back to the chair. Its like, right,

1328
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 4: or is that the style.

1329
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of tattoo experience he had

1330
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: that win.

1331
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: I'd love to get him on the couch. R. S. D.

1332
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: Robbie Lawler, He's got stories about warfare. He's gonna tell

1333
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: you fuck ol. I mean, he's one of the worst

1334
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: interviews on right. But I take on purpose on purpose,

1335
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: he's purposely.

1336
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: I told you like when I when I did a

1337
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: I worked briefly for this promotion at the time was

1338
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: called u w C Ultimate Warrior Challenge.

1339
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: Terrible name like Wrestler the Ultimate war No.

1340
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: They just were trying to everyone was trying to copy

1341
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: UFC without copying UFC.

1342
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 3: It was a mid Atlantic promotion.

1343
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: They did have some big fights, but uh they had

1344
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: this is at their relative not peak, but pretty close

1345
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: to it. They had Hughes and Lawler show was like

1346
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: the guest people or whatever, and they came to the

1347
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 2: wigs and Lawler fell asleep on.

1348
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: The desk like like that.

1349
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: We were in a hotel room and there was like

1350
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: the like the celebrity table, and he was he just

1351
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: he literally.

1352
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: Just remember though he did that in a press conference

1353
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 3: Strike Force. Yeah, he did the exact same.

1354
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: Iamed at ESPN one time and no Komodo and I

1355
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: interviewed him, and it was a typical Robbie and Brett

1356
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: interviewed him, and I think I was, you know, helping out.

1357
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: But afterwards we you know, you sit in chat with

1358
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: Robbie for like a half hour. Dude, he could not

1359
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: be could not care less about the other parts of

1360
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: this game that don't involve getting in the cage and yeah,

1361
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: and like but I mean, like out of anyone I've

1362
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: ever met in the history of combats, which is a

1363
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: lot of people that just don't care about media or

1364
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: don't care about fame and or they're in it for

1365
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: just the boosheet. Like there's a lot of different kinds

1366
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: of cats. Man, he couldn't give a fuck about trash

1367
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: talk about is he getting the next title shot? About

1368
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: is there anyone left in your career that you haven't

1369
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: thought that you want to? All that is like fuck,

1370
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm just no, I'm showing up when

1371
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: they tell me to and I'm competing. Like he's literally

1372
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: like the oldest.

1373
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 5: He handled that asker and loss just like oh whatever,

1374
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 5: you know, we'll do it again. Like a lot of

1375
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 5: people wanted outrage from him and to like be and

1376
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 5: he was just like when.

1377
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: He came back to the UFC for that for the

1378
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: final chapter he had there, and it was the cost

1379
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: check fight that he was in. That was the one

1380
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: that was his reintroduction post strike force. He didn't have

1381
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: a little bit more fire. What you could understand is

1382
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: a different stage of his career. But he had a

1383
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: certain kind of intensity. And I can think about the

1384
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: intensity he had in the Condit fight or the intensity

1385
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: he had in the McDonald fight.

1386
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 3: I feel like those days are long. Oh yeah long.

1387
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: So I mean old Pons Andibbio should should beat him?

1388
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 4: Who Santiago?

1389
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: Old Pons and Ibbio.

1390
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: He should beat him?

1391
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: Had two years off and injuries and has not looked great.

1392
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: He has what lost three of four since we're tough,

1393
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: split decisions.

1394
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: Yes, a couple of number tight.

1395
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,959
Speaker 1: A couple of his dms are out of control. Why

1396
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: very handsome man comes from a different lifestyle and culture.

1397
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: I bet you it's like Uncle Pepe all over again.

1398
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: I don't know why his uncle Pepe's d ms, but yeah.

1399
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: He's like Peppe doesn't use technologies, he's just plowing them.

1400
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: Call him mister plow.

1401
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 3: And you do like kind of limbo down to his level.

1402
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 4: He just drive, we should get you in one of

1403
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 4: these fantastic.

1404
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 3: I was just noticing all that one merch.

1405
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: Man, how do we feel about this fight? It's not

1406
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: really form I mean, and I'll say.

1407
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 5: This honestly, it reminds me of the Barberina fight. It

1408
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 5: was sort of like, I disagree slightly. Well, Barberina was

1409
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 5: still young and vital, but this is anyway go ahead.

1410
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: Well, the only thing I was going to say was

1411
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: I think for Lawler it would be the best one

1412
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: he's had in a long time. Yeah, I mean, Nick

1413
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: Dias has a bigger name, but in terms of like

1414
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 2: the quality. But on the other hand, I actually think

1415
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: it like this is fuck man. Like Lawler was champion.

1416
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 2: Lawler is going to go in the Hall of Fame.

1417
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 2: He might already be in for one of the fights

1418
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: at this point, that McDonald fight or whatever. That doesn't count,

1419
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: I understand, But I'm saying all the pressures he's hit

1420
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: the highest level, this is all bonus time for Robbie

1421
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: Ponzinibbio still hasn't scratched that, and he's still fucking trying.

1422
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 2: This is still way more important. I think for Ponzinibbia,

1423
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: given that reality.

1424
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: Based on all that reality you just did of reading

1425
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: Robbie's recent run, like, when was the last thing that

1426
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: we could actually consider equality win from Robbie?

1427
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 3: When is the last quality win.

1428
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: Quality win, fond it well, not save your job win quality?

1429
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 3: When would be the condent win? Was That's a long

1430
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: freaking time, a long time ago.

1431
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: That's twenty sixteen.

1432
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 3: Dude. You can't fight like that very well afterwards. It's

1433
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: just a reality.

1434
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 2: Would you rather if.

1435
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: You were on a deserted island and they offered you

1436
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: wish here we go one hundred and fifteen pounder at

1437
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: a time, and you could watch one fight for the

1438
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: rest of your life, and the two offerings are content

1439
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: versus Robbie or Rory versus Robbie.

1440
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: Oh man, there's really only one direction.

1441
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 5: I think I think maybe we've talked about this off

1442
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 5: you're of the condit correct, Okay, I personally and I've

1443
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 5: talked about that. I think I think you're kind of

1444
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 5: repeating yourself. But I love the I love them, I

1445
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 5: love the McDonald fight. But I think it's because there's

1446
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 5: that photo and there's that moment I realized iconic in

1447
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 5: that sense like there was this moment where they're just

1448
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 5: making to show down Before that, the McDonald fight is

1449
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 5: more cinematic. Yes, it's gnarly ship. It is fight, but

1450
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 5: i'd have to go back and watch the car. I

1451
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 5: remember being like blown away by that fight. So it's

1452
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 5: what I mean. Either one of those would be.

1453
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: No one talks anymore about the two Lawler Hendricks fights.

1454
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: They didn't suck.

1455
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 3: No, they're pretty good. There was there.

1456
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: Those were two, as Dana called them when they announced

1457
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: the fight after George dropped the title gunfighters. That's what

1458
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: they were. They were gunfighters. All right, we're we've been

1459
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: here for about an hour. There are some other fights

1460
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: on this card. Again, it's a weird car but it's

1461
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: kind of good.

1462
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 4: But you're kind of darre until referendum time.

1463
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: Darry Tail versus drikis du Plasi, who since he came

1464
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 2: to the UFC has been undefeated.

1465
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 4: But he throws caution of the win.

1466
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: He certainly and by the way, Darren till I saw

1467
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: he's down at BEng Tal Mma in Thailand with the

1468
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: Hickman brothers, so those guys are legit.

1469
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: He's still not fought since the bromance with Chimayev.

1470
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: Is that true?

1471
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: He has not fought since him and Chimaya became like,

1472
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1473
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if that intersects with the Whittaker fight

1474
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: or not.

1475
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he's fought since then, where that seemed

1476
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: to be like an opportunity for him to and injured and.

1477
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: Really bad he needs a big win, really bad.

1478
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: Is Duplessy who showed us a lot to like but

1479
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: some things to like? Okay, let's see you prove that

1480
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: on another level? Is Duplessy good enough to go out

1481
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: there and fully solve there until at this one?

1482
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: I think he is, but he shouldn't be.

1483
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a weird one because obviously he's got

1484
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 5: a background and kickboxing, but if he's smart, he's mixing

1485
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 5: that up a little bit, right. He's kind of giving

1486
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 5: you a new wrinkle too much, bro, but he does.

1487
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 5: That's the thing that last fight, who's it against? His

1488
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 5: last fight? The dupeless was the ab for us. Yeah,

1489
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 5: he was just he was getting chewed up, like just

1490
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 5: pieced up at times, but then he would just keep

1491
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 5: going and winging and throwing crazy stuff, blitch and eventually

1492
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 5: he overcome. He overs and he wins. I'm not sure

1493
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 5: he'll get by with that. With Darren Zil, it's a it's.

1494
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: A ton less Darren Hill is just not Darren Till anymore.

1495
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: What version?

1496
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 5: I think that that's kind of the real subtext. What

1497
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 5: is Darren Zil? Like, where's Darren Hill at? Does it

1498
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 5: matter that he's you know, chances? It seems to me

1499
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 5: like right now when you talk about I don't know

1500
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 5: where he's at. I don't know if he's in the rankings,

1501
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 5: but you know, you couldn't think he is. But if

1502
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 5: you were to like take the top fifteen most of

1503
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 5: those fights, you're probably picking the other guy against Aarrenzel.

1504
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 5: At this point, he has a lot to prove. He

1505
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 5: was a guy with a lot of hype he does

1506
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 5: who I think hasn't lived up to it.

1507
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: One win since the controversial, the disputed five round decision

1508
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: against Woodley I'm sorry against Thompson that set Till up

1509
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: to fight Woodley for the title. I believe his only

1510
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: Winson sent as a split decision over guestl.

1511
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

1512
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, his last finish was Cerroni and that was like

1513
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 5: five six years that long time that I.

1514
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: Was like, how do we put into words here what

1515
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: went wrong from the moment he stepped in against Tyrone

1516
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: Woodley until now?

1517
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: What went wrong? Was it too much hype too soon?

1518
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 3: Like what happened?

1519
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? He was. Here's the thing, and this is why

1520
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: about Patty Pimblet, I'm like, you don't want to be

1521
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: a hater and be like, oh, he's no good, No,

1522
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: he's good, he's underground, he's really good.

1523
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 3: But he's actually a very good comparison, right exactly.

1524
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: Dude, They're gonna kill me for saying this, but I'm

1525
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: gonna say because it's the truth.

1526
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 4: Is this is like Anthony Smith saying John Johns's average.

1527
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no, which was also I mean even

1528
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: you and I were like, You're like Johnshon was pretty

1529
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: good his blink If you want to edit that, ye,

1530
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: here's what I'm going to say. Listen, who are the

1531
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: best combat sports fans in the world. I would argue

1532
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: the Irish and the British or the UK in general.

1533
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 3: Right, I just can't. They're just amazing fans.

1534
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but one of the downsides to their fandom is

1535
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: that they also big up their own people so much

1536
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: that they big up a lot of people who are

1537
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: not ready for it and don't otherwise deserve it now.

1538
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: Of course, in the case of Conor McGregor, he did

1539
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: and then and probably didn't even get enough.

1540
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 3: Quite frankly.

1541
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not that everyone they boost is no good. Hello,

1542
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: Leon Edwards is the welterweight champion of the world.

1543
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 3: But what I am.

1544
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: Saying is there's a lot of other guys who they

1545
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 2: both boost before they're ready, and because they're so fucking passionate,

1546
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: you gotta love it, but you gotta be careful about it.

1547
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 3: I think too was a victim.

1548
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 5: Of that to a degree, to be honest with and

1549
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 5: there we was some you know, there were red flags.

1550
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 5: And then his early run, like right, remember the Nicholas

1551
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 5: Dolby where he's just kind of cruising. He gets in

1552
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 5: the third and starts getting hit and all of a

1553
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 5: sudden it becomes a draw and he's up like two

1554
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 5: rounds to nothing. The only thing that could go wrong

1555
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 5: is either he gets knocked out or he goes. He

1556
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 5: loses the last round tonight, and he did. So I

1557
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 5: felt like there's been some you know, you could look

1558
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 5: back as revisionists, but I'm like, it probably was a

1559
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 5: lot of hype.

1560
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: I think it was too much hype. Oh, they wanted

1561
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: him to be the next they wanted that bad man.

1562
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: They they didn't want him to be. Then they wanted

1563
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: him to be.

1564
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: And I talked to people who work in the industry

1565
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: in the UK at high levels. They wanted him to

1566
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: be the next Michael Bisping. That's what they wanted. They

1567
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: wanted him to pick up or bisp being left off.

1568
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 2: We need someone who from this country is the standard

1569
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: bear for quality Liverpool.

1570
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: Well, Michael Bispine wasn't from Liverpool.

1571
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: But I think he's not a Scouser.

1572
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying Till Tills a scout.

1573
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I'm sorry. Uh and so is Patty obviously,

1574
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 2: so is Mike Owhens media. Yes he yes, Chelston Mike

1575
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 2: Owens media. But I'm just saying that the British media

1576
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: they were looking for that turned it out that Leon Edwards.

1577
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: Was that guy, right, But but.

1578
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 5: They were hoping it would pay attention to Arnold Dollan

1579
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 5: Moore like Arnold Allen's another guy who he's He's on

1580
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 5: his way, all right, we have just a few more

1581
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 5: minutes Eliot, who I think has his championship potential.

1582
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: Tak tak it on Bryce Mitchell.

1583
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: Now, Bryce Mitchell's got some weird ideas about the Earth's

1584
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: roundness and everything else.

1585
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 4: He eats coffee grounds by the marine.

1586
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 3: See the Marines do that too, So that that part

1587
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: didn't freak me out.

1588
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: He lives in a trailer on acreage, and you know

1589
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? He's in touch with his roots.

1590
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, here's what he also, he's real

1591
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: fucking he's real fucking good.

1592
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: Right.

1593
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: Mitchell's brestitch was an excell might be great.

1594
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: He might be great. Ilo to Pia remindered everyone brought

1595
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: up a weight class so he can go to one

1596
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: fifty five and I won forty five. Put my guy

1597
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: like very much. But he put Ryan Hall's lights out right?

1598
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: How do you size this one up? I gotta tell

1599
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: you this is the I think the best fight. I mean,

1600
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: but that's the way I feel. It's the perfect sort

1601
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: of opener for this card.

1602
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 5: I also think this is the closest you get for

1603
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 5: that bang for your buck fight, Like, if you're going

1604
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 5: to get you like, okay, Well, this fight is just

1605
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 5: fascinating on a lot of levels. It's it's crazy. I

1606
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 5: would say that. You know, to Poria has been like

1607
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 5: he's showing his hands. I think his last three fights

1608
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 5: have been like knockouts. He's showing like what he can do.

1609
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 5: But dude, if you go back before the UFC, he's

1610
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 5: a black belt all submissions, So like you get into that,

1611
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 5: like where Bryce Mitchell is the blind, what he's doing

1612
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 5: is grappling is all these old moment Yeah, but then

1613
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 5: it gets really fascinating because you're like this dude's no

1614
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 5: slouch on the ground.

1615
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: He's like you think Bryce, for mm grappling might be

1616
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: a little bit better. Yeah, but to Poria is much

1617
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: more well rounded, right exactly, You're just not quite sure

1618
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: who's going.

1619
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 4: To dictate, right, and it's best went up to this point.

1620
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: Janson Barboza win was nice. Yeah, it was real nice.

1621
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: That was an eye opener in that regard. Man, this

1622
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: is a great matchup for positioning I want to see.

1623
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean Bryce may have to win this, honest, he

1624
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: may have to step up that strike, which.

1625
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: By the way, he can do a little bit. That's

1626
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: the other part too. He's not totally outgunned there. I

1627
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 2: just don't think he's got the firepower ever.

1628
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 5: Did they put your tweets up, you know on the

1629
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 5: UFC procure.

1630
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: Me and Ariel?

1631
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 3: They never I was going to say, the guys, the

1632
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 3: guys that they hate.

1633
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: Me, I'm more, I'm more I'm more likely by Thomas.

1634
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 7: But like more liked by them. I mean, I was

1635
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 7: the star of that tity video. But whenever let that go.

1636
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 7: Wh when when Mitchell was fighting Charles Rosa, remember that fight,

1637
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 7: he was like submission simp after submission at sempt one

1638
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 7: of the few times I got up there, and it's

1639
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 7: the craziest It's the craziest thing I've ever seen them

1640
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 7: actually put on the screen because I said, Rosa is

1641
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 7: fielding more submissions than the fiction editor at the Paris Review. Wow,

1642
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 7: And they actually put that up there.

1643
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 5: You know, most of them are like, I score that

1644
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 5: one literary.

1645
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 3: It's like, it's like Steve O. This guy's great. They

1646
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 3: put that one up there of all of them.

1647
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: And literally say the UFC, should you know, Dana, why

1648
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: should be president?

1649
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 3: And I States of America? And they wouldn't put it.

1650
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 2: Would you agree?

1651
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to turn the page on Bryce to

1652
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: Poria too soon. But this prelim card the middle five right,

1653
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: the middle five fights on this card kind of kind

1654
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: of hardcore teazers in there.

1655
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 3: Quickly. What stands out to you.

1656
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember the five fights, but I like them.

1657
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: Let's talk about this son Strike is the main event

1658
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 2: of the prelims.

1659
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: That's a banger between two guys Dawkas and Rosenstroek who

1660
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: both need to win big time.

1661
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 3: They're both their hands to get there. Rol ROAs Junior

1662
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 3: taking on That's an important topic.

1663
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: But but you were mentioned Chris Curtis against new Manzo

1664
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,439
Speaker 1: Walking Buckley in that opener, Luke, that's we're gonna see

1665
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: some some hands and kicks being thrown in that one.

1666
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great one.

1667
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: Two guys who can slug it out, two guys who've

1668
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: been around the game for a while.

1669
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: Two guys about evenly sized.

1670
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: I would say roughly, I'm not in the same weight class,

1671
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: but I'm saying inside the weight class.

1672
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of sleepers. Another one and Sabazi.

1673
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: I'm taking on Dalky Lumgiambula re fight losing skid for

1674
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: Shabazi and it's it's ship it off right, It's fine

1675
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: and Dalka Lugiambula I'm going to say I would give

1676
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: the award to greatest traps in Mma. I mean that

1677
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: man's trapeziest most Wow, they reached the sky. You know,

1678
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: they're they're unbelievable, dude.

1679
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: Separate from the man's traps. Are we talking enough that

1680
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: for Edmund? And is he still with coach Edmund?

1681
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 5: Well, I was going to say that was kind of

1682
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 5: his re entry back in the spotlight, right like Taverdian,

1683
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 5: he kind of had Shabazi and it was like, Okay,

1684
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 5: here we go again, Ronda to it. But now he's

1685
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 5: hit another snag. It is true, but he moved to

1686
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 5: Las Vegas.

1687
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 2: Okay, it's time.

1688
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: It is time for him to come out and win

1689
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: put this because look, he's a great one round fighter,

1690
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: but it's the way that he's imploded in the second

1691
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: and third rounds, you know, with stamina, but in some

1692
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: other ways too that.

1693
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 2: Jesus, his wrestling has looked quite deficient. Yeah, he's got

1694
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: to come up and show us when he can box

1695
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 2: and use his handspeed.

1696
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 3: He's great.

1697
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the other guy the Contender series.

1698
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: Uh Roil Rose graduate seventeen years old, still making the US.

1699
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: This was supposed to be bone nickels UFC on this

1700
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: card Bonneckle got injured. We're gonna have to wait on that.

1701
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: But this still feels meaning full. Raoul Ross Junior seventeen

1702
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: years old.

1703
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: Wh's he fighting?

1704
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 3: Jay Perrin? Who has two fights in the UFC. He's

1705
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 3: lost them both.

1706
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: Chuck the Obligatory? How freaking good is Raoul Rosas Junior?

1707
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean he is he still in high school?

1708
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 3: What are we doing here? It's unique. This is a

1709
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 3: unique thing.

1710
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 5: I think that this is one of the few times

1711
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 5: where we're discussing a fighter being very young in this way.

1712
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 5: Usually when we're talking about a young guy, it's like

1713
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 5: John Jones is making a run to be the youngest

1714
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 5: champion or something like that.

1715
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 3: This is unarmed here most guys.

1716
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 5: I mean, that's why, like guys can't leap from high

1717
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 5: school football into the NFL.

1718
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: It's like you got to grow into your body and

1719
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: all that stuff.

1720
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 5: Manstre Yeah, but it's it's bizarre to actually be contemplation seventy.

1721
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 3: It was seventeen at the time when he broke.

1722
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: You've been very not against Ross himself, but against the

1723
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: idea of a high.

1724
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: Schooler dude to seventeen year old person, unless they are

1725
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 2: the prodigy of all prodigies, unless they're Peko when he

1726
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 2: was seventeen, not even him, not even him, unless you

1727
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: are far beyond that. You are not fucking ready for UFC.

1728
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: Let me say this too. You do not know that

1729
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: you are not ready. It is impossible for your seventeen

1730
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: year old mind to contemplate that. And I'm telling you's

1731
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: gonna be a twenty five year old guy if they

1732
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: don't match him right, which they might. But if they

1733
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: don't match him right, he's gonna get fuck.

1734
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: You know how we fix this, get Nick Maynard and

1735
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: Freddy Aduo on the phone together.

1736
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 3: That's how we feel. Work of Freddy. I do just

1737
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 3: I said that.

1738
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 4: What do you I mean, Freddy?

1739
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: I do like you know, he just took what the.

1740
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 3: Billy Quarantello Alexander Hernandez on his cartoon.

1741
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: You know, Freddie a dou he's a DC guy in

1742
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: the MLS, right they just send him.

1743
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: Hasn't been a DC guy in the MLS maybe since

1744
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 2: the nineties. I don't the.

1745
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: Connection to bring you back in? I mean, was that

1746
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 3: his fault in the long one?

1747
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: He was overrated as shit? Yeah, and MLS was trying

1748
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: to find the star.

1749
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 3: So what does Rosas do.

1750
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 2: He's got to come out and look spectacle. That's asking

1751
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:47,799
Speaker 2: a lot of a high school kid, right.

1752
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's in high school anymore. I

1753
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 3: think he should win this contest.

1754
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: I mean again, we go back to the petty pimple

1755
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 2: think he's say ten, Rosace has like great cardio. He's

1756
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 2: got ridiculous aggression, which I think at this level will

1757
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 2: reward him over time. May not, but at this stage

1758
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 2: it will. And he's got great, great grappling and tax

1759
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 2: in the back.

1760
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: He's got great.

1761
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: When I was seventeen, Luke, I could not be trusted

1762
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: with anything.

1763
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 3: I mean you're doing. I can't trust you anything now.

1764
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 5: Your level of thinking that you're invincible at those ages

1765
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 5: is ridiculous.

1766
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: It's impossible to explain to an in shape, strong, like

1767
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: like fucking you know, young buck, seventeen year old guy,

1768
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: about about anything other than in their own invincibility. It

1769
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 2: is impossible to explain that to the true So when

1770
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: they say things like I'm ready for the UFC, it's like, dude,

1771
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 2: you don't even know how to answer that, because.

1772
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 5: You run across any of those types of mentalities in

1773
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 5: the Marines. Yeah, yeah, fucking dude, and they were again.

1774
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 5: People are like, what's your long term prediction for L.

1775
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 5: Russ Junior. I don't know.

1776
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 3: I don't know how they're gonna.

1777
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 4: Matachin it joint find yourself.

1778
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 3: Hold on.

1779
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: For a guy who went to community college and then

1780
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: failed out after trying to major, well don't know if

1781
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: it was failed the failed out after trying to major

1782
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 2: in bedpan technology. You've got a lot of opinions for.

1783
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 3: Someone who I've got a lot of opinions for someone

1784
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 3: who actually did it. Well.

1785
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: I did accept the full time job in the industry

1786
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: when I left school. I mean, I was making a

1787
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: leven dollars, but you know, I can't really.

1788
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 4: Brag about that.

1789
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm not making a long term prediction

1790
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: for Rustlos Junior.

1791
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 3: It's far too early. I don't know.

1792
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: What I am saying is the amount of peril he

1793
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: has invited by going to the UFC this early is

1794
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 2: extraordinary and I think not smart.

1795
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 3: And if he loses badly, even on this fight, well,

1796
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 3: here's the thing.

1797
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: If he loses badly, you can say, well, the guy's seventeen.

1798
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: I don't worry about that. What I worry about is

1799
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: a loss, yes, but it takes a little bit of

1800
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: a beating. Like what if he gets like fucked up

1801
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: a little bit. It's a lot easier for a twenty

1802
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 2: five year old guy, sure, who's got a little bit

1803
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 2: of life centering versus a seventeen year old kid.

1804
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 4: You know he might not be laid.

1805
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: You know, like you got a lot of life to live, John,

1806
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 2: why don't you go blow him? How about that?

1807
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 3: I mean, could we edit that part up?

1808
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: Chuck?

1809
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: He mentioned a sneaky banger in the featured Facebook prio.

1810
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 3: This is the last one that we gotta get going?

1811
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 4: Is Billy Q Cumberner going? We love Billy Corn.

1812
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 3: The question is is Alexander her one of those early

1813
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 3: pandemic know me now?

1814
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: Billy Q guys and you know Nanez. His first two

1815
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 2: wins in the UFC he stopped Oam who just won

1816
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: a PFL title, and he.

1817
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 3: Knocked out with one punch.

1818
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 2: But Neil Dorush.

1819
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: Those were his first two against against dead.

1820
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 3: Called him day drinking don against.

1821
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: My question to you is Billy Billy Q was fought

1822
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: his ass off against Burgos, came up empty, but he

1823
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: is hungry to make noise at the one four five?

1824
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 3: Is this possible? I mean, I need to see it.

1825
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 5: But at the same time, this dude brings it, man

1826
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 5: every single time, So I don't know, I I it

1827
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 5: sucks to see guys like that who do have good fights.

1828
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: Who are also like funny, so yeah, they're fun to

1829
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 3: talk to. The guy is just a fighter, man, He's.

1830
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 1: Just he's a new dad too, Billy, you know, so

1831
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna have that extra motivation one fight though, That's.

1832
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.

1833
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 2: The card is weird and disorganized, yeah, but there's some

1834
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: decent things along it actually some really good parts along

1835
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: the way as well. Yeah, all right, Chuck, we gotta

1836
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 2: get out of here. Why don't you tell us how

1837
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 2: the folks can find your ship.

1838
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 5: You can go to the myth dot com the m

1839
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 5: I T H myth dot com. That's where I'm writing. Yes,

1840
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 5: great hats for sale over there, and uh, just my

1841
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 5: Twitter handle, which is that Chuckman and all.

1842
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 3: That's pretty much it. You you know, you'm a I

1843
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 3: do there.

1844
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: So if you want to show well Brian Campbell stuff,

1845
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: you can go to clown Penis dot folk.

1846
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Chuck, you are pulling off like you remember

1847
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: one when ravishing Rick Rude was on Nitro and Raw

1848
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: on the same night because of how things worked with

1849
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: the pre taping, and then he signed the secret contract

1850
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: and he left.

1851
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: You are on aerial show.

1852
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes the same day you're on our show.

1853
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: How does this look sestuous? But I don't care about this.

1854
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 3: Only he care.

1855
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 4: You're having sex with the Church and the State, you.

1856
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

1857
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 5: What's been fun is like the State or the Church.

1858
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 5: Spotify feeling like they're like they're showing like what what

1859
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 5: you listen to? And a lot of I keep seeing

1860
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 5: the same thing where people are like showing the podcast

1861
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 5: that they watch one of them this morning combat and

1862
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 5: the other one is always uh yeah yeah they are.

1863
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 5: But the but the ringer of my show is like,

1864
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 5: so it's pretty funny to have both.

1865
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: That just means that you're secreting idiot.

1866
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: You know you're a wanted man, right, Okay, your services

1867
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: are greatly respected across the industry, including on this couch.

1868
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 3: Wants it or a desperate man. It's one of those

1869
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 3: two things. Man. There's a thin line between them, Yes,

1870
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 3: thin line. Okay.

1871
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: If things ever go sour between us and we have

1872
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: not had the best day as a partnership.

1873
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 3: Okayauys are always right on the brink when we do

1874
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: this show. Right about your phone say.

1875
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: Most of the time I say I want to kill him,

1876
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 2: and I don't today I legitimate.

1877
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 3: Well, good luck man, I mean, was that was.

1878
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: The reaction worth? You know, worthy of the crime?

1879
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: You know you can argue it was, certainly, but that

1880
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 2: is not paying for other people.

1881
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 3: He was blown up at the mode, not you. That's

1882
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 3: that's right.

1883
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: December tenth will be the last pay per view of

1884
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: the year for the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Mechamn uncle, I

1885
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 2: have takes on Yambohova. You get stories on the way

1886
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: heavyweight title. We have to get going.

1887
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 3: We have to go. I have a train to catch.

1888
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 3: I really did a train. I have to go get it.

1889
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 1: Get Does that train involve the Marines off hours?

1890
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 3: You know you know he is going to kill you? Yeah, now,

1891
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 3: now you that's a different kind of training.

1892
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to catch that one anymore, all right,

1893
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: trying to catch that p Yeah, good, good joke there

1894
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: stupid all right, we have to get out of here.

1895
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 2: That's Brian Campbell, that's the man in the hat. Chuckman

1896
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: and I'm Luke Thomas. Until next time, enjoy the fights,