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Speaker 2: the top of the chat. Okay, oh Joe, I guess
Speaker 2: we're gonna jump right into it. Tom Brady once again
Speaker 2: strokes rumors, stops rumors about coming out of retirement. On
Speaker 2: one of his recent blogs on YouTube, he says he
Speaker 2: still keeps in shape. I just want to make sure
Speaker 2: all you young bucks in the NFL know that if
Speaker 2: I want to come out of retirement, they still got something.
Speaker 4: To deal with. Brady just turned forty seven.
Speaker 2: He retired after the twenty twenty two season, and he
Speaker 2: has not played a game since January sixth, sixteenth of.
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty three. Oh Joe, Why Brady doing this? I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 5: I think he like it.
Speaker 6: I think he liked it, or he might be setting
Speaker 6: it up for some for some big I don't think
Speaker 6: it's a return to the game of football. But I
Speaker 6: mean he's already going to anchor the CBS CBS.
Speaker 5: Network, right, Oh Fox is Fox? Okay, you can be
Speaker 5: anchor on Fox.
Speaker 6: So him coming back is probably probably not likely, but
Speaker 6: he might be setting up for something else.
Speaker 5: Is he just playing the seed? I'm not sure. What
Speaker 5: the seed may be, but obviously playing football is not it.
Speaker 2: Why would you Why would you give up thirty seven million?
Speaker 2: He got a ten year deal down there at four
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars to talk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get to it.
Speaker 2: I don't give a damn if he comes back and
Speaker 2: plays another five years. Yes, sir, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: what my brother told me when I thought about coming
Speaker 2: back for your fifteen instead of taking that desk job
Speaker 2: at CBS. Right, he said, boy, you get too old
Speaker 2: to play football. You don't get too old to talk.
Speaker 1: Mm. I like that, So I.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, though, Joe. And also
Speaker 2: one of the that I had to decide if I
Speaker 2: want another Super Bowl? Was that gonna change anybody perception
Speaker 2: of me?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: If I had another thousand yard season, another fifty catch season, No, sir.
Speaker 2: What can Tom Brady do to change anybody's perception of him?
Speaker 6: Absolutely nothing except change the narrative about being too old
Speaker 6: to play the game of football at the quarterback position.
Speaker 6: That's probably that's probably that narrative that it can still
Speaker 6: be done, or probably he's one of the few that
Speaker 6: can probably do it well into his forties, almost to
Speaker 6: the age of fifty and I mean it doesn't change
Speaker 6: the narrative, narrative at all. He's the gold He's the
Speaker 6: greatest of all time. With a young fella down there
Speaker 6: in Kansas City right on his heels, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 2: I just think that, Look, there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of guys that's gonna play unless if they don't suffer
Speaker 2: significant injury.
Speaker 4: You're gonna see a.
Speaker 2: Lot of guys playing eighteen nineteen twenty feet. The rules
Speaker 2: will allow it. Yeah, you can't punish the quarterback like
Speaker 2: you once could. And if you could, man, they get
Speaker 2: fault in half. You don't want to take that kind
Speaker 2: of punishment.
Speaker 4: O Joe. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: So look, I just think he's having fun with it.
Speaker 2: I think from time to time, like y'all know me,
Speaker 2: y'all know I can still do this right, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6: This is the thing I like about about the New Tom.
Speaker 6: I call it the new Tom because the Tom and
Speaker 6: the Tom in New England is the Tom that the
Speaker 6: Tom in New England is the serious Tom.
Speaker 5: I'm about business Tom, I'm coming to my job.
Speaker 6: But the time we got in Tampa Bay was decide
Speaker 6: that the players got to see inside the locker room
Speaker 6: when there were no cameras around. The fun Tom, the
Speaker 6: personality Tom, the Tom that makes jokes. You know, in
Speaker 6: New England, I try to get him on Twitter for
Speaker 6: the longest. In New England, I try to get him
Speaker 6: on Instagram for the long on Instagrams for the longest.
Speaker 5: He wouldn't do it. He wouldn't budge.
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, he gets he gets to Tampa,
Speaker 6: Rand New Man. I can finally be myself. I'm finally
Speaker 6: I don't want us to use the words as I'm
Speaker 6: finally free, but I can just be myself without without
Speaker 6: having the mask who I truly am up under the
Speaker 6: Patriott if that, if that makes sense. And we now
Speaker 6: we get to see the fun guy. We get to
Speaker 6: see the fun guy on Twitter. You know, he's he's
Speaker 6: making content videos and the having fun and I think
Speaker 6: it's dope vlogging and all this other stuff.
Speaker 5: And that's the time that we never got to see.
Speaker 6: Well we got to see it, you know that that
Speaker 6: that fun side of him, but the world never got
Speaker 6: to see it. And now it's a coming out party
Speaker 6: for him and he's taking advantage of it.
Speaker 4: I think the thing is for the most part, O
Speaker 4: Joe The only guy that really was himself at all
Speaker 4: times was Gronk. Yeah, most definitely with that was that.
Speaker 2: College frag guy that drank, bears, had a good time,
Speaker 2: yelled his screen, he took care of his business off
Speaker 2: on the field, There's no question about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was himself.
Speaker 2: Coach Belichick didn't make didn't wasn't able to suppress who.
Speaker 4: Want was the grow that you see. That's how he is.
Speaker 4: He's really what you see, he's really that's how he is.
Speaker 2: He's a big, fun loving frad You know, you think
Speaker 2: of a frat guy, a a at a p w
Speaker 2: I that drags, have a good time, go have on
Speaker 2: kakis and a blazer when he goes somewhere. That's Bromp.
Speaker 2: But he's gonna have a great time. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2: He's a fun guy to be around. And Coach Belichick
Speaker 2: wasn't able to suppress that. I don't know if we
Speaker 2: got anybody else's personality in New England other than Gronk
Speaker 2: and when you got and when and and and when
Speaker 2: you got, because I think the thing is is that
Speaker 2: you understood why you was there.
Speaker 4: He controlled everything.
Speaker 2: There was never a situation where I'm here because the
Speaker 2: coach wanted me, but the general manager didn't. I'm here
Speaker 2: because the general manager wanted me, but the coach didn't.
Speaker 2: There they're the same person. So you know, you were
Speaker 2: there because of coach Belichick. You know if you weren't there,
Speaker 2: it was because of coach Belichick. And for the longest
Speaker 2: time Tom was okay with that. But at some point
Speaker 2: in time, Tom realized, I'm doing all this and you
Speaker 2: still treat me like the twenty third to fifty, the
Speaker 2: forty eight, the guy on the roster doing all this
Speaker 2: to words, Yeah, yes, he's like, I'm not on Twitter,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing anything, and I still get the same abuse.
Speaker 4: I get the same Nah.
Speaker 2: Hell now, so as you noticed that at the time
Speaker 2: to end, he stopped coming to OTAs and you started
Speaker 2: to stop doing all that.
Speaker 6: I think I think it got to the point where
Speaker 6: where Bill, Bill understood uh the position.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: He felt Tom's time had maybe run this course a
Speaker 6: little bit with the Garoppolo situation. I think Tom felt
Speaker 6: the pressure of Bill probably wanted to go in that direction.
Speaker 4: I think Tom.
Speaker 6: I think Tom might have talked to Craft and saying,
Speaker 6: you know what, I don't want this individual over my shoulder,
Speaker 6: you know how that is for for starting the quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: Yes, And I think they just had to get rid
Speaker 5: of him.
Speaker 6: And listen, I could be speculating, but I'm just thinking
Speaker 6: how it played out in my head and and how
Speaker 6: how it played out hell in front of all our eyes.
Speaker 6: That that that that might have been the issue. And
Speaker 6: I think Tom really had nothing.
Speaker 1: To worry about.
Speaker 5: But I think it was Bill.
Speaker 6: Bill was ready to go in another direction, feeling that
Speaker 6: Tom and that again all he could and not realizing,
Speaker 6: you know, Tom leaves and goes and wins another goddamn
Speaker 6: super Bowl. That's that's crazy. That's in a in a
Speaker 6: perfect story. You couldn't write it any better. To leave
Speaker 6: a team where coach assumingly doesn't believe you anymore and
Speaker 6: wants to move on, and you go to the next
Speaker 6: team and win.
Speaker 5: It's foot Bowl.
Speaker 6: And it's people like Tom Brady that make people think
Speaker 6: playing the quarterback position in the NFL is easy, because
Speaker 6: and Patrick Mahomes make it look so fucking easy, yet
Speaker 6: it's so difficult.
Speaker 5: They make it look so easy, but yet it's so difficult.
Speaker 2: I think the thing was, Look, the writing was on
Speaker 2: the wall where you hurt when you self. Ricochet Wickersham
Speaker 2: wrote this article about how that came to a come
Speaker 2: to Jesus meeting, and mister Krafft gave coach Bell check
Speaker 2: of ultimatium, ultimatum that Jimmy Garoppolo was going to be
Speaker 2: traded against coach Belichick and he didn't want that to happen.
Speaker 2: That was his guy, because Coach Belichick had been in
Speaker 2: the NFL long enough to know that you need that bridge.
Speaker 2: That if you let a quarterback dial rot on the
Speaker 2: vine and you don't have a bridge, you get the
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins, you get the Buffalo Bills, and so you
Speaker 2: don't have that great that succession plan on like the
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, you.
Speaker 4: Go from Brent Farr to Aaron Rodd to Georgia.
Speaker 5: Now they got lucky. They got to think about it.
Speaker 5: What what what other team.
Speaker 6: Or entity in that matter has had the luck of
Speaker 6: the Packers quarterback situation. We can go from Joe Montana
Speaker 6: to Steve Young, but that stopped the two quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: But but you know, Jeff Garcia had a good.
Speaker 6: Jeff Garcia, Jeff Jeff good.
Speaker 2: But I mean, but I mean but not not not
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, not not have had, you got you got.
Speaker 2: You had eighteen years of Bread, you had eighteen years
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers, and it looks like you might have eighteen.
Speaker 4: Years of of George Love so.
Speaker 2: You might have fifty plus years a great quarterback, Almom
Speaker 2: Michael Steeler's coaching situations.
Speaker 4: So you knew it was it was coming.
Speaker 2: And I said this at the time when Tom wanted
Speaker 2: his wanted an extension on his contract, and all they
Speaker 2: did was take money and give it to him and
Speaker 2: assigning bonus, and then they extended.
Speaker 4: I say, he gone, yeah, yeah, why would you, Why
Speaker 4: would you?
Speaker 2: Why would you not extend it if you wanted him
Speaker 2: back for gold an opportunity And so now and I
Speaker 2: remember and I said this also, I said, Tom, mister
Speaker 2: Kraft won this one, he won't win the next one.
Speaker 2: Coach Belichick is gonna get his way because he's not
Speaker 2: gonna stop. Because the problem was is that he wanted
Speaker 2: to show see.
Speaker 4: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: A lot of times when you have success and when
Speaker 2: you see successful groups break up, it's because there's a
Speaker 2: power struggle going on that if you if you know,
Speaker 2: you know, if you're in the business, if you're around it,
Speaker 2: you can see it. But to the casual fan, they
Speaker 2: don't see it. No, Shanny, you don't know what you're
Speaker 2: talking about. You see when when Bill Walsh retired, they
Speaker 2: want a super Bowl the next year. Yeah, so there
Speaker 2: was no there was no it was Bill, it was Joe.
Speaker 2: They wonted Super Bowl next year and they got to
Speaker 2: the NFC. In the NFC Championship, it was a hardcourt
Speaker 2: three p Yeah. So now there was always question who's
Speaker 2: most responsible for the Patriots dynasty?
Speaker 4: Is it Tom?
Speaker 1: Is it Bill?
Speaker 5: I think it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 2: I think all I know is one guy went and
Speaker 2: got a super won a Super Bowl, and whether the
Speaker 2: playoff every year, and the other guy went to the
Speaker 2: playoffs one year, got bounced in the first round and
Speaker 2: never went back to the playoffs again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, I think I think on on
Speaker 6: Bill's on Bill's behalf. You have to think the important
Speaker 6: to the quarterback position. We all know what everybody in
Speaker 6: the chat that's listening. You understand how important the quarterback
Speaker 6: position is. Now when you're not able to fulfill that spot,
Speaker 6: that you're not able to do other things with the
Speaker 6: freedom that Bill had when Tom was in place, you
Speaker 6: have to understand when you look at the New England
Speaker 6: Patriots and the landscape of that team throughout the years,
Speaker 6: the pieces to the puzzle constantly changed each year, whether
Speaker 6: it be offensively, whether it be defensively. But as long
Speaker 6: as you had that centerpiece in Tom there and everything
Speaker 6: ran through him, you were gonna be fine. You can
Speaker 6: do you can do any and everything because you understood
Speaker 6: he was gonna protect the ball in the most crucial
Speaker 6: times and not to run it over. And all you
Speaker 6: have to do is go play defense. And what was
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick?
Speaker 5: He was the defensively, he was a defensive genius. He's
Speaker 5: a google on this ethern side of the ball. And listen,
Speaker 5: they did the best job at taking away your best weapon.
Speaker 4: They were the best at that.
Speaker 5: And you know, it's just unfortunate.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I don't want to say, I don't want to say
Speaker 6: the word I want to use egos. I don't want
Speaker 6: to say egos got in the way.
Speaker 1: And it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 6: It was a damn pisson contest on who was responsible.
Speaker 6: But I think it ruined a great thing. It ruined
Speaker 6: the great thing.
Speaker 4: Of course.
Speaker 2: I think the thingo because you saw coordinators come and
Speaker 2: go be at offense, defense, It didn't matter the players
Speaker 2: and people like well, Tom did you have to understand
Speaker 2: everybody can't play in that system. Every great player can't
Speaker 2: play for Coach Belichick. He took players. When he goes
Speaker 2: in drafts, they're doing an evaluation about ego. Is this
Speaker 2: guy gonna be okay catching one pass two passes one
Speaker 2: week and then maybe not catch another pass for two
Speaker 2: three weeks, And so you have to evaluate that because
Speaker 2: the one thing that you're not gonna do is mope
Speaker 2: on Coach Belichick's time. He gonna get you up out
Speaker 2: of there. So you have to understand. You have to
Speaker 2: if you, like I said, Joe, if you know, you
Speaker 2: know you and I played the game for an extend
Speaker 2: period of time, so we know how that things work.
Speaker 2: And I had a coach very similar. Now he wasn't
Speaker 2: as rigid. Mike was not as rigid as Coach Belichick.
Speaker 2: But Mike wasn't gonna set up for that. I don't
Speaker 2: care what round you was drafted in. I don't care
Speaker 2: how much money he gave you. Mike, we get your
Speaker 2: ass up out of there. Yeah, Quip, you did anything
Speaker 2: that wasn't team related?
Speaker 6: Yeah, And matter of fact, the fact that you say that.
Speaker 6: Remember you asked me, h, not too long, maybe maybe
Speaker 6: two or three shows ago. You asked me, was I
Speaker 6: okay with how things were going in New England being
Speaker 6: that it wasn't a productive season that I'm used to having.
Speaker 6: You know, if you look my goddamn numbers every every year,
Speaker 6: you are you know what time it was. I was right,
Speaker 6: I was giving that work. And he was like, well, listen,
Speaker 6: whether I was okay with it or not, I understood.
Speaker 6: Once you walk in that building, nobody even has to
Speaker 6: say anything. I don't know what I don't I don't
Speaker 6: know what it is about the Patriots and the Patriot
Speaker 6: way and you having a great understanding that you're expendable
Speaker 6: no matter who you are.
Speaker 4: Smart example, chat.
Speaker 2: Hey, look at all the great players that they had
Speaker 2: then Lloyd they cut Lloyd malloy on a Tuesday, left,
Speaker 2: William mcginnon's left, all those got, all those guys business.
Speaker 4: It didn't matter, It didn't matter. Let me takemore.
Speaker 5: But let me tell you something. You know when you
Speaker 5: can you can do all that. When you got that goddamn.
Speaker 6: Twelve sitting back there and you got worry about because
Speaker 6: you can feel every you can feel all the other
Speaker 6: roles via draft and.
Speaker 5: Then the off season through free agency. But then think
Speaker 5: about this.
Speaker 6: One of the things, one of the reasons why I
Speaker 6: probably would have never even if I didn't have this
Speaker 6: example or I saw this example. Randy Moss was upset
Speaker 6: about something. I think it might have been contract. It
Speaker 6: might have been money. He was just coming off that season.
Speaker 6: What they do touchdowns and he had what to do. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and he said something in the media about our contract,
Speaker 6: about getting paid.
Speaker 5: You remember that, I do remember.
Speaker 4: Any went back to Minnesota.
Speaker 5: He was going, what it wasn't even twenty four hours?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh my god, boy, listen, you already know what
Speaker 6: time it is, so you know I wasn't going over
Speaker 6: the cutting up. Oh who let one of the greatest
Speaker 6: of all, one of the greatest, one of the top
Speaker 6: three players of.
Speaker 4: All time, go who the fucking by?
Speaker 5: I ain't nobody should I was walking on eggshield the
Speaker 5: whole time.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing was, oh, Joe, they should say Tom
Speaker 2: Brady at Altars be for you. Yeah, because he's the greatest.
Speaker 2: He's the greatest makeup ever because he can cover he
Speaker 2: could cover up all blomishes that the Patriot had, because
Speaker 2: he was so good.
Speaker 4: So he's make up.
Speaker 2: And there only been a handful of guys. You kill
Speaker 2: a guy like Patrick mahone that can do that.
Speaker 4: He's makeup. Tom Brady, he's make up. Those guys like that.
Speaker 2: You've got blemishes on your team, they can hide them.
Speaker 2: They're the filter on I G make everything look good.
Speaker 1: And you.
Speaker 2: You fat, you out of shape, you're terrible. But that
Speaker 2: guy can make you look good. And Tom Brady is
Speaker 2: the ultimate makeup. And we might not ever see that again,
Speaker 2: that Patrick Mahomes is firing. But what Tom was able
Speaker 2: to do. I thought when he got the three in
Speaker 2: his first three and four four years, I thought he
Speaker 2: could get to five.
Speaker 4: I ain't.
Speaker 2: I ain't see I ain't see that. I ain't see seven,
Speaker 2: and I didn't see them constantly in contention. I mean,
Speaker 2: think about it. He lost the he lost the Peyton
Speaker 2: three times. The AFC Championship game he lost. That's another
Speaker 2: five appears. Then that's another five three.
Speaker 6: That's crazy when you think about it. We talked about this,
Speaker 6: We talked about the NFL. We talked about players that
Speaker 6: have played the damn Renos, the Barry Sanders hell myself,
Speaker 6: uh t O, I'm thinking about all the great players
Speaker 6: that have played this game for who knows how long,
Speaker 6: never had the opportunity of playing in the super Bowl,
Speaker 6: or if you did playing in the super Bowl, you
Speaker 6: only played once and then you got Tom.
Speaker 4: You got my homes going back.
Speaker 6: Over and over and over like het like he playing
Speaker 6: the goddamn game of Madden, Tim Benling, goddamned Tom Brady
Speaker 6: that have.
Speaker 1: Been what ten times?
Speaker 4: Ten times?
Speaker 5: Ten times?
Speaker 4: This is real life.
Speaker 5: This is not a video game.
Speaker 6: Do you know how difficult it is to the super
Speaker 6: Bowl every year? Yeah, every two or every three or
Speaker 6: whatever it may be. They make it look so easy
Speaker 6: when the game is very difficult. To the point, I
Speaker 6: see why people question the game of football being rigged,
Speaker 6: the NFL being rigged, because they make it look so
Speaker 6: goddamn easy.
Speaker 4: But I swear for God. I swear for God for you, for.
Speaker 6: Those of you in the chat that watch the game
Speaker 6: of football and think, oh this is gonna happen, or
Speaker 6: oh this is stage and this is I trust me,
Speaker 6: it's not.
Speaker 1: You can't do it.
Speaker 6: Those individuals are just that good. I swear I saw
Speaker 6: it in person for a whole year.
Speaker 2: So look, that's his legacy. If he wants to come back.
Speaker 2: But the last thing you want to see is a
Speaker 2: guy that hangs on too long. We saw Johnny U
Speaker 2: nine us, we saw your namer, We saw Willie made
Speaker 2: staggering in our field's rescue soul. We've seen somebody. Our
Speaker 2: great players play a little bit longer than what they should.
Speaker 2: That's their career, that's theirs. You know, if whatever you
Speaker 2: choose to do, Hey, when you've been a great player,
Speaker 2: if you want to go out on your term, if
Speaker 2: you want to go out like that, so be it.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to judge you. But Tom, I look
Speaker 2: at Tom like a coach k, like a dean, like
Speaker 2: a pat Head Summit. Unless he did something so egregious,
Speaker 2: that is just unforgivable, right right right. You let him
Speaker 2: go out when he wants to go out. That's what
Speaker 2: they did for Coach k That's what they did for
Speaker 2: coach Coach Smith. That's what they did for a coach Summit.
Speaker 2: That's what they do for the great coach. Wouldn't I
Speaker 2: believe Tom is so great of a player. He's been
Speaker 2: so great to that organization. He's been so great to
Speaker 2: the city of Boston and the surrounding areas. You let
Speaker 2: him go out on his own. You're like, Tom, how
Speaker 2: long you want to play?
Speaker 4: Tom? I'm serious, So Joe, Yeah you do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do? Yeah, I mean me.
Speaker 6: I mean listen, if he was, if he was to
Speaker 6: come back, I don't think it would be the Patriots.
Speaker 5: I don't think it would be. And the funny thing
Speaker 5: about it, No, he's over there, huh yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: And the funny thing you said about, you know, the
Speaker 6: deal with Fox and thirty seven million or whatever it
Speaker 6: may be.
Speaker 1: What Fox ain't going nowhere?
Speaker 5: No, Fox ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 6: Fox is gonna always be there, being able to talk
Speaker 6: and be in that booth and being that balla, you know,
Speaker 6: being that booth doing football games and commentating and breaking
Speaker 6: down games.
Speaker 5: That's gonna always be there. But at forty seven, if
Speaker 5: I want to, if I want.
Speaker 6: To fulfill that childhood dream and that that urge to
Speaker 6: play and compete one more time, I mean, there's an
Speaker 6: opportunity and chance for him to do it because he
Speaker 6: is the one person that can do it at forty seven. J. J.
Speaker 2: McCarthy twenty twenty four season is over before it got started.
Speaker 2: The Vikings rookie quarterback Will be sidelined until twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five after undergoing surgery Winnsday to prepare to repair a
Speaker 2: tor maniscus in his right knee. This leaves the team
Speaker 2: veteran Sam Darnold, who signed a one year contract worth
Speaker 2: ten million dollars in Mark, as the likely starter in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. There are other quarterbacks on the Viking's
Speaker 2: roster twenty twenty three holdovers mcmullens at Jaron Hall. McCarthy
Speaker 2: suffered the right miniska's terrordor in the Minnesota preseason. Opened
Speaker 2: against the Las Vegas Raiders on Saturday and sat out
Speaker 2: of Money's practice with the initial thought was Niets further
Speaker 2: tests to reveal he had torn his menisca, prompting surgery.
Speaker 4: Ah, listen, I'm not.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I don't wish Injuril nobody.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: I show love and I praise everybody. I always take
Speaker 6: it back to nutrition. I think about our days when
Speaker 6: we played.
Speaker 5: We had too days.
Speaker 6: We practiced two out and thirty minutes a day. We
Speaker 6: didn't fall like flas. We didn't fall like flas like this.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to.
Speaker 6: I don't want to spend it in any wrong way,
Speaker 6: you know, out of out of respect CBA protecting the players.
Speaker 6: Practices are much shorter now, you know, they have all
Speaker 6: these professional nutritionness and all these meal plans and all
Speaker 6: this all this stuff. But for some reason, now when
Speaker 6: we practice and we played, we had two days we
Speaker 6: practiced two out and thirty minutes in the mornings, took
Speaker 6: a break, rested, and had another two hour and thirty
Speaker 6: minute practice after and we played football. Yeah, no disrespect
Speaker 6: to the day's game. We played football, but we weren't
Speaker 6: falling like flash. Now engines are going to happen. Do
Speaker 6: you know how many injury this bens in training camp started?
Speaker 6: We are in week one, oh a week and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and that's probably why you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of the startered lo Ja we played. We might
Speaker 2: have not played Game one. We played ten plays. The
Speaker 2: next play we played like twenty plays. The third game
Speaker 2: or that.
Speaker 5: Third game, were playing all the way to halftime.
Speaker 4: We go into halftime and probably the first drive of the.
Speaker 5: Third quarter yeah yeah, and the fourth quarter we relaxed.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then then then the fourth game we're not playing
Speaker 2: at all and we get ready for but I wanted
Speaker 2: I wanted to play oo because I needed to get
Speaker 2: my rhythm. I was a rhythm player. Obviously offensive rhythm,
Speaker 2: but I was a rhythm player. I needed stemps. I
Speaker 2: needed a cadence. I needed to feel people banging on
Speaker 2: me my not guys in in camp on my team, right.
Speaker 2: I needed somebody else to see. I needed to see
Speaker 2: something else. I needed to see guys moving that were
Speaker 2: trying to make the team off at Yeah, yeah, game,
Speaker 2: I needed that. But I just think, oh, Jo for us,
Speaker 2: You're asking these guys to like, you know what, come in,
Speaker 2: We're not gonna do anything, not gonna do anything. And
Speaker 2: then a month later on one hundred miles an hour. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just it's it's I think. I just think you're
Speaker 2: asking an awful lot. And maybe the guys they trained
Speaker 2: you damn much. Damn they don't get anybody a chance
Speaker 2: to heal until time off once the season was on,
Speaker 2: won't you. I took a good a good month. I
Speaker 2: ain't do nothing fot five weeks, I ain't do nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I took I took about I took about two months.
Speaker 2: And then and then I was starting to gradually build
Speaker 2: back up. And now I was lifting, you know, I
Speaker 2: do a little light lifting, but I wasn't doing any running.
Speaker 4: And then the running I would gradually build up, gradually build.
Speaker 2: Up, so by the time May hit, now I'm about
Speaker 2: I'm about seventy five, eighty percent. Now June, I woulda
Speaker 2: rap that thing up to get about ninety five and
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna start tap tapering it back down, getting
Speaker 2: ready to go to camp. Make sure I ain't got
Speaker 2: no no tweets, no anything, because the last thing you
Speaker 2: want to do is going to camp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nick, No, you don't want that. You don't want
Speaker 4: to go into the season.
Speaker 2: If you limp into the season, you gonna limp out
Speaker 2: of it, because how do you get help, yo Joe
Speaker 2: when you gotta practice every day and them games come
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 4: Here, yeah, back to back, back to back back.
Speaker 2: Hopefully the rookie bounces back, because you looked like he
Speaker 2: was off to a promise and start.
Speaker 4: I know that's not what he envisioned for his rookie season,
Speaker 4: but hey, bro.
Speaker 5: Yeah he's gonna he's gonna be Yeah, he'll learn a lot.
Speaker 6: But what the Vikings do do need to do with
Speaker 6: what they do need to do, and then it's just
Speaker 6: no disrespect to what they have on the roster that's left.
Speaker 5: Now, who do we expected me to be?
Speaker 4: The start?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: Sam Donald?
Speaker 1: Dam Sam Donald.
Speaker 6: No, no disrespect to him, no disrespecting him. But we've
Speaker 6: seen the small sample size of what he.
Speaker 5: Brings to the table.
Speaker 6: Okay, but I'm calling what he's done so far a
Speaker 6: small sample side because it hasn't been much.
Speaker 4: And that and I mean no disrespect.
Speaker 6: You know, dyeing the sky don't lie, the film doesn't lie,
Speaker 6: And I mean that in the most respectful way.
Speaker 4: Sam, I love you.
Speaker 5: Now, what they need to do is to get a
Speaker 5: veteran because.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you know what Nick Mullins, You
Speaker 2: know Nick Mullins, he's with he's with Shanahan and hard
Speaker 2: eighteen because they.
Speaker 4: Cost so much.
Speaker 6: They can't do eighteen like that over there. They got
Speaker 6: to get They got to get that young fella somebody.
Speaker 6: They got to give him some type of gunslinger, They
Speaker 6: got to give him some type of security, some type
Speaker 6: of something, because what's going to happen is the numbers
Speaker 6: are going to the numbers are going to to what's the.
Speaker 1: Word I'm looking for decrease.
Speaker 6: They're going to decrease because of who's at the Helm.
Speaker 6: They got to get him somebody in there. I don't
Speaker 6: I don't know who. Where's Where's where's Garoppolo.
Speaker 4: I don't know where Jimmy g in Atlanta is in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I don't know where he's at.
Speaker 6: I'm just somebody who can hell Fitzpatrick bring Fitzpatrick out
Speaker 6: of retirement.
Speaker 4: No, it's over fits Magic. I mean, you know, listen,
Speaker 4: he's not magic. He's at the Rams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's behind Stetson Bennett because it's it's Stafford
Speaker 2: Bennett and then Jimmy g Jimmy.
Speaker 5: Jimmy can slang that thing man the porn stars, Jimmy
Speaker 5: can slang that thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gonna be at the A B A v PC convention. Hey,
Speaker 4: they need, they need, they need to go get him.
Speaker 6: And I'm I'm I'm telling you at some point in
Speaker 6: the season, justin Jeffers is he's gonna he's gonna act
Speaker 6: a fool. He's gonna act a fool.
Speaker 2: As much as Jack Prescott's contractual future has been a
Speaker 2: constant talking point of the off season, he says he's
Speaker 2: knocking sooned by it, I'm not putting that much starting
Speaker 2: to it, hoping it gets done now, hoping it gets
Speaker 2: done in a couple of weeks during the season, or
Speaker 2: whenever it happens. I just know converse stations are on.
Speaker 4: The right way back.
Speaker 2: And then in the final year of his deal, he
Speaker 2: said to make twenty nine million dollars count fifty five
Speaker 2: million against the cap without an extension, Dak will hit
Speaker 2: the free agency market and count forty million against the
Speaker 2: Cowboys cap in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: What he has, o Jo, they cannot franchise it, right.
Speaker 5: They can't trade him either.
Speaker 4: They cannot trade him, so he has all the power.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, which you know what? Which think about this?
Speaker 4: How many?
Speaker 5: How many times are players in a position where they
Speaker 5: had the team by the balls?
Speaker 1: Think about it?
Speaker 4: Not often?
Speaker 6: Not often, not often at all? I mean, is a
Speaker 6: chess move? If I if I was Dak, I mean,
Speaker 6: what do you do? What would you do if you
Speaker 6: was Dak? If me myself, if I was Dak and
Speaker 6: understanding the circus that comes with being a part of
Speaker 6: the Star, I would better myself like he's always done,
Speaker 6: like he's always done.
Speaker 2: A choice now, Ojo, because I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 2: get it done because what he's looking for, he's looking
Speaker 2: for sixty million. He's looking to reset the market. He's
Speaker 2: looking at something around five years he.
Speaker 1: Should be able to do.
Speaker 5: And I think that's what what's holding up CDs deal
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 2: So I think, Ojo, that's what they're looking at. Huh,
Speaker 2: sixty he's looking at sixty million. He's looking to reset
Speaker 2: the market.
Speaker 5: Well, if you're gonna reset it, let's go fifty sixty years.
Speaker 2: No, that ain't reset in the market. Fifty five. You
Speaker 2: got three guys making fifty five. In order to reset it,
Speaker 2: you got to go sixty. I'm just I'm just telling
Speaker 2: you because here's the thing, O Joe, as Jared Might says,
Speaker 2: I'm not willing to go there.
Speaker 4: But in free agency, oh.
Speaker 5: In order to get an agency, he might get sixty five.
Speaker 2: In order to get a player to leave the situation
Speaker 2: that he's currently in, you're going to have to overpay it.
Speaker 6: Pay yeah, most definitely every time. And this isn't the
Speaker 6: wonderful thing about the NFL too. Depending on when when
Speaker 6: a player's time is up, because very few times do
Speaker 6: you get to a position and you are a it's unrestricted, right,
Speaker 6: am I saying it?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's gonna be unrestricted, unrestricted freedging very few times,
Speaker 6: especially the quarterback.
Speaker 4: Is it with no chance of the tag being placed
Speaker 4: on you nothing.
Speaker 6: So that means you getting every every bit of dollar
Speaker 6: plus something because whenever, especially somewhat a quarterback like the
Speaker 6: caliber of back Prescott, which some would make fun of
Speaker 6: him and say, well, he hadn't done anything. Listen, he
Speaker 6: changes the dynamic of a team because there's no one
Speaker 6: else you can put in his place on the Cowboys
Speaker 6: right now except maybe the top five or five or
Speaker 6: six quarterbacks in the NFL, and they would still.
Speaker 5: Do the same thing, and probably a little further in
Speaker 5: the postseason.
Speaker 4: But Dak, is it all right?
Speaker 2: I'd like to cut you off. But we got a
Speaker 2: very very special guess we got. We got the Olympic
Speaker 2: four hundred meter hurdle champ.
Speaker 4: What's that's right? That's about that came and redeemed himself.
Speaker 4: He says, oh, come coping back? What's up? He said?
Speaker 4: He coming back? He won the revenge.
Speaker 2: He's been chasing Carston Warholme, the world record holder for
Speaker 2: the better part of three years, and he finally tracked
Speaker 2: him down the Norwegian and the Rye. Here yours, ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, your four hundred meter hurdle champ with a
Speaker 2: time of forty six forty six, Rye Benjamin.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir nephew, what's going on?
Speaker 1: I'm living in dream right now. I'm living in dream. Brother.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Rye. Obviously, you have an
Speaker 2: outstanding season. You have been performing really really well. Give
Speaker 2: us your mindset going into the Olympics. You had raised him.
Speaker 2: I think you raised him once before at a Diamond
Speaker 2: League meet pre Olympics, and so you had to feel
Speaker 2: good because you beat him, and you had beaten him
Speaker 2: three times since he last beat you.
Speaker 4: I think at the at the Olympics Budapest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Budapest. The won Budapest last year. And then
Speaker 1: we went to Prefontaine, I wont not meet, and we
Speaker 1: went to Monaco before the Olympics, now the big one.
Speaker 1: We were all there.
Speaker 4: I won that one.
Speaker 1: So going into the Olympics, I was I felt really confident,
Speaker 1: I was calm, I really trusted myself. I think mentally
Speaker 1: I was in a way different place than I was.
Speaker 1: I could tell yeah, previous years and previous seasons, so
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I went in. I had the confidence,
Speaker 1: you know, like I felt good. Energy in the stadium
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. It was actually like I've been to a
Speaker 1: lot of football games. I've been to I at Death Valley,
Speaker 1: lsu Okay, and I have never heard a stadium get
Speaker 1: that loud in my entire life. It was crazy. So
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was. It was a phenomenal,
Speaker 1: phenomenal experience. So just you know, I went in with
Speaker 1: a completely different mindset and I was like, yeah, like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the guy to beat and the only person
Speaker 1: that's going to beat me is me.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I have a question speaking of that race
Speaker 6: at the Olympics, did you understand his strengths and weaknesses
Speaker 6: and did you have any type of strategic game plan
Speaker 6: going into that race and knowing what to do and
Speaker 6: when when to kind of hit it, win to back off?
Speaker 5: Will be your plans?
Speaker 1: In general? I think so over the past three four years,
Speaker 1: we raced so much so I've seen every single race plan,
Speaker 1: every race strategy, and I think for me, the three
Speaker 1: of us are so good that very little separates us,
Speaker 1: and it's about who could be on on that day,
Speaker 1: who's going to get it on that day, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, throughout the entire cycle of the Semis, I
Speaker 1: mean the heat Semis finals, you know, I got dealt
Speaker 1: the right hand and those guys were now ran fast
Speaker 1: like the first two rounds. So I knew being out
Speaker 1: in lane eight, I was going to be the one
Speaker 1: to kind of dictate what the race would look like.
Speaker 1: So in my head I was like, all right, like
Speaker 1: I need to I need to really push the pace,
Speaker 1: but do too much so I have enough to come
Speaker 1: home that last rights when when when? When we got out,
Speaker 1: like he gets out really really hard, so he covered
Speaker 1: me a little bit right, and my whole thing was
Speaker 1: all right, just run in lane eight, like focus on
Speaker 1: your your ten hurdles in your lane and get off
Speaker 1: that turn, like put your foot in the ground and
Speaker 1: just go oh yeah. And then coach Watts quincy watch.
Speaker 1: He has a we have this we joke around sometimes
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, if it's leaving, I'm leaving. So
Speaker 1: we got off. We got off hurdle seven, and I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, man, I'm out of here. Man,
Speaker 1: So whatever happens happens. And I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys saw, but like I was coming out off of
Speaker 1: seven and I stumbled a little bit. I was running
Speaker 1: so fast that like the centrifugal force pulled me out
Speaker 1: to the outside of the lane and I kind of
Speaker 1: like stumbled a little bit, and I think that kind
Speaker 1: of costed me like maybe forty six flight. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, like I just had so much momentum,
Speaker 1: I just kept going. So that was just that was
Speaker 1: my That was my game plan going in. To be
Speaker 1: honest with you, just run my pattern. Do what I've
Speaker 1: been doing in the entire season. I mean, Uncle, we talked,
Speaker 1: you know, Uncle, send me a message sometimes after the race,
Speaker 1: even if it went good or bad. So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was phenomenal man and them.
Speaker 1: I'm on cloud nine right now.
Speaker 2: I could tell right when I when I the thing
Speaker 2: that I was that I was. I always wondered. I say,
Speaker 2: and all these guys, you look at yourself. I mean,
Speaker 2: the four fastest guys ever in Herland history was in
Speaker 2: that race. Aberdeen Ensemble, Dose Santos, warm home yourself. If
Speaker 2: I find all you guys up and I say, run
Speaker 2: one hundred meters, you're gonna win. If I line all
Speaker 2: you guys up in the two hundred and say race
Speaker 2: you're gonna win. If I find all you guys up
Speaker 2: in the four hundred and say race you're gonna win,
Speaker 2: I say, why don't right, put this man under the gun.
Speaker 1: See it's it's a different so that I always the
Speaker 1: four hundred and the foreigner hurdles are too completely animal
Speaker 1: really yeah, it's a completely different rhythm. And if if anything,
Speaker 1: it's like you know, when you drive a really fast car,
Speaker 1: it just kind of wants to go all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll be in the neighborhood
Speaker 1: and there'll be a speed bump on the row and
Speaker 1: you can't really go. So you're kind of like gunning
Speaker 1: it light to lath but you can't. I can't really
Speaker 1: do what I need to do because these hurdles are
Speaker 1: in my way and I gotta be on a certain pattern.
Speaker 1: And if that, if you're not on that pattern, like
Speaker 1: you start stutter stepping up, and it kind of ruins
Speaker 1: the rhythm. You were just talking about how when you played,
Speaker 1: you need to be in a certain rhythm, and you
Speaker 1: needed those games to to get in that rhythm, that
Speaker 1: offensive rhythm. So for for me, it's like I need
Speaker 1: to be on that rhythm consistently. Okay, sometimes it requires
Speaker 1: me slowing down a little bit, and no matter how
Speaker 1: strong you are, you still got to get over those
Speaker 1: ten barriers. So that was the Uh, that's that was
Speaker 1: kind of the the kryptonite for me. I mean, like
Speaker 1: in the even like you can see when I run
Speaker 1: open fours or even in the four by four, like
Speaker 1: I can let it go.
Speaker 2: Yeah you care, And I was about I was about
Speaker 2: to have feel about that in the open four.
Speaker 4: You know Tobogo, you know he'd run low forty four.
Speaker 2: You know he just ran nineteen forty six, He's run
Speaker 2: nine eighty six, so you know he has the strength.
Speaker 2: So when you got the baton, what was your what
Speaker 2: was your strategy? Because when you say what you say,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say what I thought you were gonna do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I got the Bryce did a phenomenal deal.
Speaker 1: I mean from from Chris to Vernon. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: v like he v had a hell of a meet,
Speaker 1: hell of a me.
Speaker 4: Burn really open it up for you, Burn, Burn get
Speaker 4: the job.
Speaker 1: That's my roommate. That's my roommate. So so when Bryce
Speaker 1: brought the baton, in. I mean, he was forty three five,
Speaker 1: like on fire coming through, and I saw how close
Speaker 1: the Botswana kid was closing shot. In my head, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: if when he gets the baton, he's gonna be at
Speaker 1: least two steps behind me, Yeah, and I know he's
Speaker 1: gonna try and either cover me or sit on the
Speaker 1: first the first hundred. So in my head, I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, don't blast the first hundred like you usually
Speaker 1: do out in about like ten to nine ten eight,
Speaker 1: so you can hold it down the backstretch that way,
Speaker 1: I can get his legs moving because he's Tobogo, He's
Speaker 1: he's a two hundred guy and he just ran nineteen four.
Speaker 1: So my whole thought process was he could probably make
Speaker 1: it too. I know you can run to three hundred,
Speaker 1: he could probably make it to three fifty. And this
Speaker 1: last fifty is going to be hot if I could
Speaker 1: bring us through three hundred at like thirty one flat.
Speaker 1: So I'm like all right. In my head, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: all right, take him out first hundred, let him spin
Speaker 1: his legs down the back stretch and even doing that,
Speaker 1: and like I can hear him, and it got so
Speaker 1: loud in that stadium, but I can hear him behind me,
Speaker 1: so I'm in my head. I'm just like, all right,
Speaker 1: stay calm, stay calm, keep that cadence, keep spinning. And
Speaker 1: he stayed at Bay. And then we got to that
Speaker 1: last one twenty and it looks like I was jogging,
Speaker 1: but I'm so smooth. I was open man, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, are we gonna get it this last hundred?
Speaker 1: This list? We got through three hundred to three fifty,
Speaker 1: and he's still at Bay, and I like kind of
Speaker 1: the crowd made Yeah, the crowd made a sound. And
Speaker 1: usually when the crowd makes it sound, it's either somebody
Speaker 1: pulls up or somebody fell. So'm I looked up at
Speaker 1: the jumble tron and I'm just like, I couldn't see
Speaker 1: him because his uniforms blowing. The track is purple, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm so fast, so I check again and I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, he's still here, Like I gotta go.
Speaker 1: So like Doug Deep got to three fifty and about
Speaker 1: five ten meters before the line, like I was, I was,
Speaker 1: I was honestly shot and it was just but it
Speaker 1: was too yeah, And that's where the reps and and
Speaker 1: and being disciplined and being experienced like comes in because
Speaker 1: I know when that happens, like you're not really getting
Speaker 1: any faster that last hundred. What's happening is is who's
Speaker 1: slowing down the slow slowest. So for me, it was
Speaker 1: just like, man like, don't get walked. Man like I
Speaker 1: get to go medal du yeah on TV in front
Speaker 1: of these people, because I wasn't gonna hear the end
Speaker 1: of it. So yeah, I did exactly that and write
Speaker 1: it home for them guys.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So I was like real really hyped up and pumped
Speaker 1: up about that.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm not gonna lie. I thought he was gonna
Speaker 4: cover you early.
Speaker 2: I said he had the type of speed that he's
Speaker 2: gonna put right under the gun quick.
Speaker 4: I thought he would jump you.
Speaker 2: I actually thought he would cover you over the first
Speaker 2: one hundred to one fifty and then get the lead
Speaker 2: and then settle down.
Speaker 4: What he did, and I'm like, I think he might
Speaker 4: be making a mistake. I see now go ahead now.
Speaker 1: I think if I got out any slower, he probably
Speaker 1: would have done that. Okay, but I got out at
Speaker 1: such a pace where it was like it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of enticing where you kind of want to go. But
Speaker 1: you know, you know if you go you're gonna die.
Speaker 1: I can really because I run hurdles and it's so rhythmic,
Speaker 1: and I know how to differentiate times like I know
Speaker 1: like what threshold and and what kind of cadence to
Speaker 1: be on. So it was just it was just kind
Speaker 1: of like a bait and switch kind of deal. And
Speaker 1: and just it's a it's a gamble.
Speaker 4: You just just kind of.
Speaker 1: Plays out and played out very well.
Speaker 6: So it works perfectly, especially when you know your opponent,
Speaker 6: you know your you know your opponent's strengths and weaknesses,
Speaker 6: and the fact that you understood.
Speaker 5: His at that time, you knew what to do in
Speaker 5: that race.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: One of the funny things as soon as you got
Speaker 6: as soon as you got the baton, as soon as
Speaker 6: you got the baton and started.
Speaker 4: Going, that's looking.
Speaker 5: Does anyone else tell you your you're running mechanics in
Speaker 5: your gate?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 5: Is it similar to Michael Johnson?
Speaker 4: I heard you notice that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Straight up? My glass is like, yeah, I'm like, what
Speaker 4: the hell? That looked like? I got there?
Speaker 1: You got to be that way because when you start
Speaker 1: tenson and you start muskling stuff like that's when you
Speaker 1: start going backwards. So that's that's really the trick right there.
Speaker 1: To be honest, it's just staying relaxed, staying open and
Speaker 1: just running really really efficiently. Did you really no waste
Speaker 1: in movement? None of that? Right?
Speaker 2: We had Michael Johnson on and I remember in Stutguard
Speaker 2: when they broke the world record into four hundred meters
Speaker 2: they ran two fifty four twenty nine.
Speaker 4: And I can go back in my head.
Speaker 2: I know Andrew Bauman laid off with forty four five
Speaker 2: and he went to quinfit your coke, and I think
Speaker 2: he ran forty three three, forty three five. He had
Speaker 2: it to the world record holder at the time, Butcher
Speaker 2: rentals and he ran low forty forty three.
Speaker 4: The race was blown open.
Speaker 2: Michael Johnson got the baton and he said, because we
Speaker 2: had almost broke the world record where we broke.
Speaker 4: It, but I read like mid forty four, almost forty five.
Speaker 2: Because I was asking him, I saying, Mike, you do
Speaker 2: realize you ran sub forty three with a thirty minute lead,
Speaker 2: with a thirty of me to lead. And I said
Speaker 2: why He said, because I didn't want to hear their miles.
Speaker 2: He said they had talked about me so bad, so
Speaker 2: he ran forty two nine. Did you think you guys
Speaker 2: had a chance going into that race? Did you think
Speaker 2: this was going to be the.
Speaker 4: Second fastest four hundred four by four into history.
Speaker 1: I thought we could have broken it last year. So
Speaker 1: after the past, like if you if you go to
Speaker 1: my Instagram, you look at my last relay post from Budapest,
Speaker 1: I was like, let's go after the world record next
Speaker 1: year because we had all we had all the pieces.
Speaker 1: Quincy's running well, V's running well. I mean I can
Speaker 1: get on the relay and give you a really hot split.
Speaker 1: Michael Norman he was coming back to run well, Chris Bailey,
Speaker 1: Bryce Deadman, and then we had little Quincy just like
Speaker 1: you know, just shoot up out of uh I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say out of nowhere, but like no
Speaker 1: one was expecting him to run forty four low and
Speaker 1: it's just phenomenal. So we had all the pieces. The
Speaker 1: issue is is figuring out who to put on what
Speaker 1: leg to maximize those legs. Okay, and I think because
Speaker 1: Quincy had that little tweaking his hamstring in his final like,
Speaker 1: we had to reshuffle the order. But I knew we
Speaker 1: still had the pieces because V had split forty three
Speaker 1: because uh.
Speaker 4: Mix, yeah, and because he ran to mix relay and
Speaker 4: open the qualifier.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so V had the forty three in him.
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew Bryce had forty three in him
Speaker 1: as well too, because he was consistently running forty forty
Speaker 1: four lows. So I knew if if if Bryce lights
Speaker 1: come on, he's gonna bring that stick around because he's
Speaker 1: from TEXTA and M, so he's gonna run. And and
Speaker 1: it just all came down to what my leg would be.
Speaker 1: I actually wanted to run second. It's me because I
Speaker 1: knew if I ran second, I would run forty two
Speaker 1: eight or forty two nine.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, I just know second leg is the
Speaker 1: best as the best leg because you can on that
Speaker 1: tangent when you cut in, you can kind of cheat
Speaker 1: some meters if you do it right. Yeah, So why
Speaker 1: all them second leg splits were so fast? I mean,
Speaker 1: you still got to be fast to be on that
Speaker 1: second leg, but like, if you do it right and
Speaker 1: you run a good tangent, like I'm telling you, you
Speaker 1: can cheat it a little bit and you can get
Speaker 1: that split. So initially, so when that happened, you know,
Speaker 1: you know coach Mike marsh came and was just like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: like I need a dog on anchor leg, because yeah.
Speaker 4: You had to be on anchor so Roth.
Speaker 2: I don't mean to cut you off, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if anybody could have hold, could have played off
Speaker 2: Tobago off other than you, because you, like you said,
Speaker 2: you had a strategy. He didn't put you under the
Speaker 2: gun because of your I think somebody else would have panicked.
Speaker 2: And if you panic in that situation, he gonna chase
Speaker 2: you down like the great Britain did. Antonio Pettigrew, We
Speaker 2: saw low a good friend of mine, Angelo Taylor. Same
Speaker 2: thing in the Olympics. If you panic on that anchor leg,
Speaker 2: because everybody got their board. Dog on the anchor so
Speaker 2: everybody can go sub forty three, could go a sub
Speaker 2: forty four on the anchor leg.
Speaker 1: If so you all did, like every single as the
Speaker 1: first leg was forty three, then them boys came to run.
Speaker 1: I ain't really can't. They were not playing around, man,
Speaker 1: they were not playing around.
Speaker 4: I did not see this.
Speaker 2: I did not see I did not see two fifty
Speaker 2: four thirty five. I damn sure didn't see the women.
Speaker 2: I damn sure didn't see the women challenging the Soviets
Speaker 2: because I was enough to see that.
Speaker 4: Remember that race and.
Speaker 2: Soul when the Soviet women and it would flow Joe
Speaker 2: and the four hundred meter champ on anchor leg I
Speaker 2: want an.
Speaker 1: Eye SERTs on the Soviets. Listen, Hey, they weren't there,
Speaker 1: so they not there for re Iji.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but man, I mean you ran forty three thirteen.
Speaker 2: The bog runs forty three oh three. That's the fastest
Speaker 2: flip that you ever run by Foard. Yeah you know,
Speaker 2: I mean think about it now, you just run forty
Speaker 2: four forty six through the round.
Speaker 4: Qualified did what you needed before the night before? Yes,
Speaker 4: did you know you had that in your legs?
Speaker 1: Uh? Not really, to be honest with you. In my head,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yo, man, like I need to. I like,
Speaker 1: when we both got to stick, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if the broadcast showed it, but I like
Speaker 1: turned in the stands and I just started to smile,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, this is about to be crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah I got lock in for this one. But
Speaker 1: I mean when it comes to the relays, like I'm
Speaker 1: usually that's the fun part, Like I always tell people
Speaker 1: that's the fun part. The hard part is doing your
Speaker 1: individual event. The fun part is when you get all
Speaker 1: those guys together. Although where there's a team track and
Speaker 1: field as an individual sport, so it's just one of
Speaker 1: those things where you have a moment to share as
Speaker 1: a team. And I think that's where I thrive, is
Speaker 1: when we come together as a team and share like
Speaker 1: this experience. So when I got the stick in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't let these boys down because they
Speaker 1: did their job. Yeah, I got to do my all
Speaker 1: on you and and bring home go for Tmosa. So
Speaker 1: that was just that was that was the focus for me.
Speaker 1: But I had no idea. We got to the backstretch.
Speaker 1: My agent was on the backstretch and I was like,
Speaker 1: where did I split? He was like forty three thirteen.
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way. But it was a
Speaker 1: it was I couldn't believe it because like after I
Speaker 1: got done, like I wasn't on the floor. I mean
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of lactic acid, but I
Speaker 1: just feel like I was just so excited.
Speaker 4: You floating, bro.
Speaker 5: I was like, man, it was just it was definitely
Speaker 5: definitely floating.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you this can I can I get
Speaker 4: you to the women.
Speaker 2: You had Filmka, you had see it, and everybody's trying
Speaker 2: to build this thing up because Filmica won the indoor
Speaker 2: she ran forty nine seventeen. We saw seid who really
Speaker 2: she's run twenty two oh seven in the two hundred meters,
Speaker 2: which is still like the eighth or ninth fastest time ever.
Speaker 4: Covered by woman.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four we saw her run forty eight
Speaker 2: seventy five, is just slightly off the American record. Why
Speaker 2: would they trying to build this up when Filke has
Speaker 2: never been closed to see it.
Speaker 1: I think because the week prior they FEMK went to
Speaker 1: this meet and had run fifty point nine. So and
Speaker 1: she did it by herself, And I think what people
Speaker 1: neglected about that. Although I mean, fifty point nine is
Speaker 1: ridiculously fast and she did a phenomenal job just navigating
Speaker 1: ten hurdles by herself doing that, I think what people
Speaker 1: neglected about that meat because a lot of fast times
Speaker 1: came out of that meat. It was at altitude, yeah,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't realize when you're at
Speaker 1: altitude you have less resistance in the year. So that's
Speaker 1: why that kind of hype came, and you kind of
Speaker 1: want to build the hype around the event to as
Speaker 1: well too, because m K was running well all year
Speaker 1: and it seemed as though that she was the one
Speaker 1: to give Sydney a run for her money. But Sidney
Speaker 1: is like, she's like man like. But but what you
Speaker 1: seen john Wick, Yes, coach coach Holloway from from Florida
Speaker 1: called me John Wick. I called Sidney john Wick. She listen,
Speaker 1: She's gonna kill you every time, man she's and if
Speaker 1: if she doesn't, it's gonna be you. You're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be an act of God for
Speaker 1: her to lose a race. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Every world record site it is said she's been running
Speaker 2: by herself. It's not like she's getting pushed. It's not
Speaker 2: like somebody's going over hurdle nine with her. I think
Speaker 2: the only time the Lula Mohammad pushed her. I think
Speaker 2: the last Olimpic, the Lula push Delila Muhammad pushed her.
Speaker 2: But if you look at Seid's record at the Prefontaine,
Speaker 2: you look at her at the USA, you look at
Speaker 2: her at this meat, ain't nobody closed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean she just runs with such confidence,
Speaker 1: you know, and is I feel like at a certain
Speaker 1: point you could teach so much and then after that
Speaker 1: it's just pure God given talent man, and and she
Speaker 1: just has that and that you can't teach, can instill
Speaker 1: in anybody. You're just born with that, and there's just
Speaker 1: nothing you could do about that at all.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Keim, if you agree or disagree,
Speaker 2: I think said finishes out this year. Maybe she runs
Speaker 2: one meet, maybe she runs another meat and she does
Speaker 2: the World Championships in the four hundred hurdles.
Speaker 4: But I think after that, I think Bobby.
Speaker 2: Gonna move her down to the no barriers and she's
Speaker 2: gonna go after that forty seven sixty by Madarena Cope.
Speaker 1: I think she does it next year. Okay, I think
Speaker 1: she does it next year. I mean like it's like
Speaker 1: what a like what else does she need to accomplish
Speaker 1: in the in the fronter Like that is like so
Speaker 1: far out of reach. I mean I feel like she
Speaker 1: would for fun run it once and maybe like.
Speaker 4: You try to go sub fifty, she goes sub fifty.
Speaker 1: But I mean like she's she's she's she's proven, Like
Speaker 1: she broke the word record twice this year. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like she doesn't have anything else to prove in
Speaker 1: the event. So I mean, I I like, why not
Speaker 1: go run the four next year? I feel like that
Speaker 1: would be my thought process, like let's go try something else.
Speaker 1: And yeah, well you never know, this is Bobby. You know,
Speaker 1: Mobby listened and he you know, he just he that
Speaker 1: man trying to leave legacies. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean
Speaker 1: I don't see why not. It's not far fetched.
Speaker 2: Paulino at Nassler, she got I mean, Paulino just ran
Speaker 2: forty eight seventeen, which is what I think it might
Speaker 2: be the third or fourth fastest time ever run for
Speaker 2: a woman in the open four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got crackhal over, you got cold.
Speaker 2: And I think her at forty eight seventeen that might
Speaker 2: be the that might be the third his third or fourth,
Speaker 2: fourth female covered four hundred meters.
Speaker 1: I know that. Yeah, I think, you know, listen, I
Speaker 1: think I think Sydney gets locked in and honed into
Speaker 1: an event and she figures out that rhythm and she
Speaker 1: and they really hone in on a pattern to do it.
Speaker 1: He's dangerous because she's she's you can't you she's twenty
Speaker 1: two old. Open and the two you got the foot
Speaker 1: speed and she ran ten nine if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: When she was at Kentucky at UF bringing outside it
Speaker 1: was crazy.
Speaker 4: So she could come through easy. It ain't a play
Speaker 4: for her to do twenty three five and.
Speaker 1: Then getting on that rhythm, She gets on that rhythm
Speaker 1: and then she's dangerous.
Speaker 4: Oh Joe, what you got for listen again?
Speaker 5: Congratulations, That's that's that's, that's all I got, man.
Speaker 6: I'm happy just to hear the stories you know, and
Speaker 6: that that feeling and watching you run that last lead,
Speaker 6: bro Man, So kudos, salute, congratulations. There's really not much
Speaker 6: more I can say your ask at this point. I'm
Speaker 6: just I'm just I'm just happy for you and look
Speaker 6: forward to all future endeavors.
Speaker 4: Man on that track, Yes, sir, you know Michael got
Speaker 4: this this this track series. Are you going to join that? Ry?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Hey, reach out brother, but the money, the money, the money, see.
Speaker 1: Reach out man. I had some conversations with Kyle he's
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's working with Michael as well too, so
Speaker 1: I like what they're doing. I feel like this Olympics
Speaker 1: and this year was really pivotal for track and field
Speaker 1: and it really it really got some We got some
Speaker 1: new eyes on the sport and people interested. So, uh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't stop for us at the Olympics. Guys like,
Speaker 1: it's just we have a whole season and we have
Speaker 1: this coming up. So all those head to heads that
Speaker 1: you saw at the Olympics, like, you can see them
Speaker 1: on numerous occasions throughout the year. And and Sid's gonna
Speaker 1: be on that circuit as well too. I know one
Speaker 1: of the first ones that Michael signed this well too.
Speaker 1: So I know a lot of people like give her
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of uh grief about not racing
Speaker 1: enough during the year. Well you're gonna see her race there,
Speaker 1: so tune in. But they reach out to me, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm in there, you feel me?
Speaker 2: Do you have any more meets? I know there are
Speaker 2: a couple of Diamond League meets still left in the season.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna I know, you don't like going overseas,
Speaker 2: you don't like that long plane ride, get off a
Speaker 2: play head to the track and go run.
Speaker 4: You don't really like that. But are we gonna see
Speaker 4: ride in any Diamond League meets?
Speaker 1: Now I'm done for this season.
Speaker 4: You're gonna ride this way, You're gonna ride.
Speaker 1: Ride this wave out. Man, Like, I don't think people
Speaker 1: understand the the level of mental commitment and and gymnastics
Speaker 1: that you gotta be at throughout the entire because I
Speaker 1: started competing Monday, So I went Monday through Sunday, and
Speaker 1: it was me and Vernon, Shelby mceue and the high
Speaker 1: jumper Michael Norman and Bryce. We're all in the same room,
Speaker 1: so I mean, I mean, we were all just kind
Speaker 1: of feeding off each other. So it's a it's a
Speaker 1: lot to mentally be in the room that entire week
Speaker 1: and and and just to come down from it and
Speaker 1: the nerves and whatnot, like it it takes a lot.
Speaker 1: Like imagine competing that playing at the super Bowl for
Speaker 1: an entire week exactly. That's literally what it was. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this time to enjoy it, enjoy it
Speaker 1: with my mom because she was out there and and
Speaker 1: I feel like this one was like really big for her.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm still trying to conceptualize what happened
Speaker 1: this entire week. So I mean, I'm gonna do that,
Speaker 1: see my friends, see my family, and just just really
Speaker 1: just you know, enjoy this because I'm Olympic champion, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people work their entire lives for this,
Speaker 1: and I was able to achieve that not once, but
Speaker 1: twice this week. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna live it
Speaker 1: up and I'm gonna I'm gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 2: And and yeah, oh ko, you didn't know this, but
Speaker 2: Ry was a quarterback, right, what made you give up?
Speaker 1: Man? I was a wide receiver? My dad, My dad
Speaker 1: said the wrong thing. Okay, I played wide receiver in
Speaker 1: free safety in high school.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, So why why did you give
Speaker 4: up football and went to the.
Speaker 1: Track Because I'm from New York and people of New
Speaker 1: York don't get good scholarships to go to big D
Speaker 1: one schools. Yeah yeah, so I was like I ran
Speaker 1: track and it was like, you know, like I wasn't
Speaker 1: really getting we weren't getting good recruits or recruiters coming
Speaker 1: out to my high school because we were small high
Speaker 1: school in Westchester County in New York. So you know,
Speaker 1: we had one or two guys like you know, go
Speaker 1: to big universities, but it wasn't like we were going
Speaker 1: to like LSU or or USC or a Clemson, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was just one of
Speaker 1: those things where you know, that was my avenue out,
Speaker 1: you know. And uh and I was really good at
Speaker 1: track my freshman year, so I just stuck with it.
Speaker 4: So you originally went to u C.
Speaker 1: L A, then transferred to the ULA for two years.
Speaker 1: I thought about walking on. To be honest with you, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta give it your trash scholarship because the title
Speaker 1: not no way in hell, but uh yeah, like a
Speaker 1: part of me wish I played in college. Yeah, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm not gonna pull a Tyreek
Speaker 1: and say like, you know, I'm fast and now or
Speaker 1: I can go Yeah, how.
Speaker 4: You know I'm ask you that? How you ask you that?
Speaker 1: Do you believe I'm gonna say on the show, I'm
Speaker 1: tired of the no allowed slander, man.
Speaker 4: That's my talk to us.
Speaker 1: Talk to us about it. I'm the slander. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying like I can go out and do what you
Speaker 1: guys do and catch a ball across the middle. I
Speaker 1: know how hard it is. Not hard it is to
Speaker 1: read plays and and and and memorize stuff and and
Speaker 1: go out there and put your body at risk every day.
Speaker 1: But Tyreek, you're not beating no in a hundred. Man.
Speaker 1: There's just no way, and you probably won't even beat
Speaker 1: the top collegiate guys, Toady.
Speaker 2: I mean if he long well, not now, but if
Speaker 2: he were to drop out, he's one ninety five if
Speaker 2: he got down The one like.
Speaker 4: One currently is that his friend is about one pounds
Speaker 4: but tall and free. Fred like what fixed one six?
Speaker 1: Two?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Typrek five nine?
Speaker 1: You think he's really one ninety five?
Speaker 4: Solid f Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, little Rocky rocked up low right.
Speaker 2: So so you let me ask you a question. Who
Speaker 2: do you think? Who do you think could make it
Speaker 2: on the football team? Could no one played football? Could
Speaker 2: Fred play?
Speaker 4: Fred played football for the longest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Brent Fred one hundred percent could play football.
Speaker 1: Donald Scott, triple jumper, can play football. He played at
Speaker 1: Michigan State.
Speaker 4: Look came up?
Speaker 1: Who else could play football? If I if I we
Speaker 1: got a lot of good athletes on the team, man, like, like,
Speaker 1: I think Vernon Turner could play football as well to
Speaker 1: another high jumper, yeah, Javan, Like, we we got some athletes.
Speaker 1: We got some actual athletes.
Speaker 2: I can get you. I can get you a wire
Speaker 2: reiet try right if you want it? Hey man, listen, no, no,
Speaker 2: you're not messing legs up.
Speaker 4: No I do.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, no, telling you. I'm going to go round.
Speaker 1: I'm on the go route, that go around all I
Speaker 1: need that goal. I'm out here like this.
Speaker 2: No, you gotta tell her that world record that ruck.
Speaker 2: I mean, right, how close are you to get the
Speaker 2: world record? Forty five ninety four. Everything's gonna have to
Speaker 2: be perfect, Yeah, everything has to be perfect. I feel
Speaker 2: like conditioned right track right people in the race.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm at a fitness level to do
Speaker 1: it right now because when we ran the world record
Speaker 1: in Tokyo that year, I split forty three five on
Speaker 1: the relay, and I just split forty three one, So
Speaker 1: the fitness is there. I think it just comes down to,
Speaker 1: like I said, like in that that rhythm, and I
Speaker 1: think for me it was more so about getting the
Speaker 1: metal than it was running at time. Okay it's me
Speaker 1: And I think now because now I got the you
Speaker 1: got the medal, the elusive color, I can now freely
Speaker 1: go about and just you know, just go out and
Speaker 1: just let it loose and and and see what happens.
Speaker 1: So now I can kind of shift my focus a
Speaker 1: little bit and and and and try to go after that,
Speaker 1: but that's a conversation for for next year. Next year's
Speaker 1: gonna be a long year and and the long season,
Speaker 1: so we'll see.
Speaker 2: So you're done, So let me ask your question, when
Speaker 2: will you resume training? Okay, you say you're done, your
Speaker 2: track season is over. You're gonna take a month off,
Speaker 2: you take two months off. You wait till the top
Speaker 2: of the year. What what does Rod do in the meantime?
Speaker 2: You don't do any ors, do you?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, I don't do indoors. I I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: month about a month off. I cycle. I started cycling
Speaker 1: last year. I'm gonna do that here and there. I
Speaker 1: met a great group of people out here and uh
Speaker 1: motifact little road behind like bike okay, okay, like actual
Speaker 1: bicycle road bike. So I'm gonna do that. And I
Speaker 1: won't start practice till November, around November fifth, because the
Speaker 1: season goes so late September next year, Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Tokyo World Championship.
Speaker 2: World Championship, yeap bro. I mean if we had Quincy,
Speaker 2: we talked to Quintin. Now you get you, Quiffy Verne Deadman.
Speaker 2: Y'all gotta go two fifty three and it'll be another
Speaker 2: thirty years before somebody get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we would. I believe we could do it. I mean,
Speaker 1: like like I told Quincy before I left, I was like, Bro,
Speaker 1: like you you Olympic champ dog, Like take care, you
Speaker 1: take care of your body, make sure you're healthy, because
Speaker 1: like this is like that. What he did was crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Crazy. I never seen like he really got that dog
Speaker 1: in the shit he does.
Speaker 4: I need you to dig dary. They got to put
Speaker 4: the quiffy Hall gonna do it.
Speaker 1: He's gonna do it. So I mean we could do
Speaker 1: it and we stay healthy next year and keep this
Speaker 1: momentum going like it was just it was. It was
Speaker 1: great energy in the detail, Bro, I can tell you
Speaker 1: it was great. It was great, I think, but like
Speaker 1: across the board, like different sports. I mean, we were
Speaker 1: cheaging each other on it was. It was the team
Speaker 1: energy too. Was It was infectious down in the in
Speaker 1: that camp.
Speaker 4: So it was. It was.
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at Cole Hawker, what he did
Speaker 2: in the fifteen hundred meters, you look at grand Picture.
Speaker 4: What he did in the five and the.
Speaker 1: Night my voice that night chair for that man.
Speaker 4: So man, it was.
Speaker 1: It was one of the best experience of my entire life.
Speaker 1: It was the best track me in my entire life.
Speaker 4: So right, man, thanks for joining us. Hey, guys, do
Speaker 4: it a favor.
Speaker 2: Make sure you go follow around il g at King
Speaker 2: ben Rock Rock. Congratulations, Man, you are proud of your nephew. Man,
Speaker 2: good luck, enjoy your time off the Olympic champ Rod
Speaker 2: Benjamin Man, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4: Uh that pavements on the way.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: But don't speak.
Speaker 1: Man in his word, huh.
Speaker 4: I don't spit it. Don't spend it all in one place.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm gonna. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna follow in the wise footsteps again holloween and I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna donate some of it to uh
Speaker 1: A good cause that I'm passionate about.
Speaker 4: So yeah, hey sir.
Speaker 2: Again, congratulations Man, thanks for stopping by Nightcap. We greatly
Speaker 2: greatly appreciate it. I know our subscribers, our watchers, our viewers,
Speaker 2: our listener they were supporting you all the way. So
Speaker 2: thanks for coming on, sharing some insight what was going
Speaker 2: on in your head the atmosphere of the ambiance of
Speaker 2: the Olympics. Again, congratulations, Enjoy your time off and we'll
Speaker 2: see you down the road.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and shout out the editors. Man, And y'all
Speaker 1: got it right this time right.
Speaker 2: They got the dude got Bailey on his bill. Confuse
Speaker 2: Bailey and Benjamin.
Speaker 1: And I'm not like skinned either.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, but you you got them a reprieve
Speaker 2: because they come on, bro, y'all can't y'all can't have
Speaker 2: a gap that.
Speaker 1: Big chick it that that's the right there.
Speaker 4: Again.
Speaker 2: Congratulations man, enjoy your time off, man, Thank you, Lippy
Speaker 2: old man listened to Poor Herd to meet the hurdles,
Speaker 2: Rod Benjamin, thanks Rocher.
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