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On 67 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: one of his recent blogs on YouTube, he says he 68 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: still keeps in shape. I just want to make sure 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: all you young bucks in the NFL know that if 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: I want to come out of retirement, they still got something. 71 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: To deal with. Brady just turned forty seven. 72 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: He retired after the twenty twenty two season, and he 73 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: has not played a game since January sixth, sixteenth of. 74 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty three. Oh Joe, Why Brady doing this? I 75 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: don't know. 76 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 5: I think he like it. 77 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 6: I think he liked it, or he might be setting 78 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 6: it up for some for some big I don't think 79 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 6: it's a return to the game of football. But I 80 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: mean he's already going to anchor the CBS CBS. 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 5: Network, right, Oh Fox is Fox? Okay, you can be 82 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 5: anchor on Fox. 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 6: So him coming back is probably probably not likely, but 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 6: he might be setting up for something else. 85 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: Is he just playing the seed? I'm not sure. What 86 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: the seed may be, but obviously playing football is not it. 87 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: Why would you Why would you give up thirty seven million? 88 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: He got a ten year deal down there at four 89 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars to talk. 90 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get to it. 91 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: I don't give a damn if he comes back and 92 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: plays another five years. Yes, sir, I'm gonna tell you 93 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: what my brother told me when I thought about coming 94 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: back for your fifteen instead of taking that desk job 95 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: at CBS. Right, he said, boy, you get too old 96 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: to play football. You don't get too old to talk. 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Mm. I like that, So I. 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, though, Joe. And also 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: one of the that I had to decide if I 100 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: want another Super Bowl? Was that gonna change anybody perception 101 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: of me? 102 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: No? 103 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: If I had another thousand yard season, another fifty catch season, No, sir. 104 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: What can Tom Brady do to change anybody's perception of him? 105 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely nothing except change the narrative about being too old 106 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 6: to play the game of football at the quarterback position. 107 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 6: That's probably that's probably that narrative that it can still 108 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 6: be done, or probably he's one of the few that 109 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 6: can probably do it well into his forties, almost to 110 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 6: the age of fifty and I mean it doesn't change 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 6: the narrative, narrative at all. He's the gold He's the 112 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 6: greatest of all time. With a young fella down there 113 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 6: in Kansas City right on his heels, that's pretty much it. 114 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: I just think that, Look, there's gonna be a lot 115 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: of guys that's gonna play unless if they don't suffer 116 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: significant injury. 117 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 4: You're gonna see a. 118 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: Lot of guys playing eighteen nineteen twenty feet. The rules 119 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: will allow it. Yeah, you can't punish the quarterback like 120 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: you once could. And if you could, man, they get 121 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: fault in half. You don't want to take that kind 122 00:05:59,000 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: of punishment. 123 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 4: O Joe. Oh yeah. 124 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: So look, I just think he's having fun with it. 125 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: I think from time to time, like y'all know me, 126 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: y'all know I can still do this right, Yeah, go ahead. 127 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 6: This is the thing I like about about the New Tom. 128 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 6: I call it the new Tom because the Tom and 129 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 6: the Tom in New England is the Tom that the 130 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 6: Tom in New England is the serious Tom. 131 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 5: I'm about business Tom, I'm coming to my job. 132 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 6: But the time we got in Tampa Bay was decide 133 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 6: that the players got to see inside the locker room 134 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 6: when there were no cameras around. The fun Tom, the 135 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 6: personality Tom, the Tom that makes jokes. You know, in 136 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 6: New England, I try to get him on Twitter for 137 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 6: the longest. In New England, I try to get him 138 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 6: on Instagram for the long on Instagrams for the longest. 139 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 5: He wouldn't do it. He wouldn't budge. 140 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, he gets he gets to Tampa, 141 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 6: Rand New Man. I can finally be myself. I'm finally 142 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 6: I don't want us to use the words as I'm 143 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 6: finally free, but I can just be myself without without 144 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 6: having the mask who I truly am up under the 145 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 6: Patriott if that, if that makes sense. And we now 146 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 6: we get to see the fun guy. We get to 147 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 6: see the fun guy on Twitter. You know, he's he's 148 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 6: making content videos and the having fun and I think 149 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 6: it's dope vlogging and all this other stuff. 150 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 5: And that's the time that we never got to see. 151 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 6: Well we got to see it, you know that that 152 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 6: that fun side of him, but the world never got 153 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 6: to see it. And now it's a coming out party 154 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 6: for him and he's taking advantage of it. 155 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: I think the thing is for the most part, O 156 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: Joe The only guy that really was himself at all 157 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: times was Gronk. Yeah, most definitely with that was that. 158 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: College frag guy that drank, bears, had a good time, 159 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: yelled his screen, he took care of his business off 160 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: on the field, There's no question about it. 161 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was himself. 162 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: Coach Belichick didn't make didn't wasn't able to suppress who. 163 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: Want was the grow that you see. That's how he is. 164 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: He's really what you see, he's really that's how he is. 165 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: He's a big, fun loving frad You know, you think 166 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: of a frat guy, a a at a p w 167 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: I that drags, have a good time, go have on 168 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: kakis and a blazer when he goes somewhere. That's Bromp. 169 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: But he's gonna have a great time. He's a great guy. 170 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: He's a fun guy to be around. And Coach Belichick 171 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: wasn't able to suppress that. I don't know if we 172 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: got anybody else's personality in New England other than Gronk 173 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: and when you got and when and and and when 174 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: you got, because I think the thing is is that 175 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: you understood why you was there. 176 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: He controlled everything. 177 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: There was never a situation where I'm here because the 178 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: coach wanted me, but the general manager didn't. I'm here 179 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: because the general manager wanted me, but the coach didn't. 180 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: There they're the same person. So you know, you were 181 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: there because of coach Belichick. You know if you weren't there, 182 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: it was because of coach Belichick. And for the longest 183 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: time Tom was okay with that. But at some point 184 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: in time, Tom realized, I'm doing all this and you 185 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: still treat me like the twenty third to fifty, the 186 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: forty eight, the guy on the roster doing all this 187 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: to words, Yeah, yes, he's like, I'm not on Twitter, 188 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: I'm not doing anything, and I still get the same abuse. 189 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: I get the same Nah. 190 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: Hell now, so as you noticed that at the time 191 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: to end, he stopped coming to OTAs and you started 192 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: to stop doing all that. 193 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 6: I think I think it got to the point where 194 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 6: where Bill, Bill understood uh the position. 195 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: Uh. 196 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 6: He felt Tom's time had maybe run this course a 197 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 6: little bit with the Garoppolo situation. I think Tom felt 198 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 6: the pressure of Bill probably wanted to go in that direction. 199 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: I think Tom. 200 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 6: I think Tom might have talked to Craft and saying, 201 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 6: you know what, I don't want this individual over my shoulder, 202 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 6: you know how that is for for starting the quarterbacks. 203 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 5: Yes, And I think they just had to get rid 204 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 5: of him. 205 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 6: And listen, I could be speculating, but I'm just thinking 206 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 6: how it played out in my head and and how 207 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 6: how it played out hell in front of all our eyes. 208 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 6: That that that that might have been the issue. And 209 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 6: I think Tom really had nothing. 210 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: To worry about. 211 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 5: But I think it was Bill. 212 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 6: Bill was ready to go in another direction, feeling that 213 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 6: Tom and that again all he could and not realizing, 214 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 6: you know, Tom leaves and goes and wins another goddamn 215 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 6: super Bowl. That's that's crazy. That's in a in a 216 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 6: perfect story. You couldn't write it any better. To leave 217 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 6: a team where coach assumingly doesn't believe you anymore and 218 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 6: wants to move on, and you go to the next 219 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 6: team and win. 220 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 5: It's foot Bowl. 221 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 6: And it's people like Tom Brady that make people think 222 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 6: playing the quarterback position in the NFL is easy, because 223 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 6: and Patrick Mahomes make it look so fucking easy, yet 224 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 6: it's so difficult. 225 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 5: They make it look so easy, but yet it's so difficult. 226 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: I think the thing was, Look, the writing was on 227 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: the wall where you hurt when you self. Ricochet Wickersham 228 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: wrote this article about how that came to a come 229 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: to Jesus meeting, and mister Krafft gave coach Bell check 230 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: of ultimatium, ultimatum that Jimmy Garoppolo was going to be 231 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: traded against coach Belichick and he didn't want that to happen. 232 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: That was his guy, because Coach Belichick had been in 233 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: the NFL long enough to know that you need that bridge. 234 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: That if you let a quarterback dial rot on the 235 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: vine and you don't have a bridge, you get the 236 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins, you get the Buffalo Bills, and so you 237 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: don't have that great that succession plan on like the 238 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, you. 239 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 4: Go from Brent Farr to Aaron Rodd to Georgia. 240 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 5: Now they got lucky. They got to think about it. 241 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 5: What what what other team. 242 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 6: Or entity in that matter has had the luck of 243 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 6: the Packers quarterback situation. We can go from Joe Montana 244 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 6: to Steve Young, but that stopped the two quarterbacks. 245 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: But but you know, Jeff Garcia had a good. 246 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 6: Jeff Garcia, Jeff Jeff good. 247 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: But I mean, but I mean but not not not 248 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, not not have had, you got you got. 249 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: You had eighteen years of Bread, you had eighteen years 250 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers, and it looks like you might have eighteen. 251 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 4: Years of of George Love so. 252 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: You might have fifty plus years a great quarterback, Almom 253 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 2: Michael Steeler's coaching situations. 254 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: So you knew it was it was coming. 255 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: And I said this at the time when Tom wanted 256 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: his wanted an extension on his contract, and all they 257 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: did was take money and give it to him and 258 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: assigning bonus, and then they extended. 259 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 4: I say, he gone, yeah, yeah, why would you, Why 260 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: would you? 261 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 2: Why would you not extend it if you wanted him 262 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 2: back for gold an opportunity And so now and I 263 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: remember and I said this also, I said, Tom, mister 264 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: Kraft won this one, he won't win the next one. 265 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: Coach Belichick is gonna get his way because he's not 266 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: gonna stop. Because the problem was is that he wanted 267 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: to show see. 268 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 4: Oh Joe. 269 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: A lot of times when you have success and when 270 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 2: you see successful groups break up, it's because there's a 271 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: power struggle going on that if you if you know, 272 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: you know, if you're in the business, if you're around it, 273 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: you can see it. But to the casual fan, they 274 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: don't see it. No, Shanny, you don't know what you're 275 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: talking about. You see when when Bill Walsh retired, they 276 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: want a super Bowl the next year. Yeah, so there 277 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: was no there was no it was Bill, it was Joe. 278 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: They wonted Super Bowl next year and they got to 279 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: the NFC. In the NFC Championship, it was a hardcourt 280 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: three p Yeah. So now there was always question who's 281 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: most responsible for the Patriots dynasty? 282 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: Is it Tom? 283 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: Is it Bill? 284 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 5: I think it's a little bit of both. 285 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: I think all I know is one guy went and 286 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: got a super won a Super Bowl, and whether the 287 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: playoff every year, and the other guy went to the 288 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: playoffs one year, got bounced in the first round and 289 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: never went back to the playoffs again. 290 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, I think I think on on 291 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 6: Bill's on Bill's behalf. You have to think the important 292 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 6: to the quarterback position. We all know what everybody in 293 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 6: the chat that's listening. You understand how important the quarterback 294 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 6: position is. Now when you're not able to fulfill that spot, 295 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 6: that you're not able to do other things with the 296 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 6: freedom that Bill had when Tom was in place, you 297 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 6: have to understand when you look at the New England 298 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 6: Patriots and the landscape of that team throughout the years, 299 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 6: the pieces to the puzzle constantly changed each year, whether 300 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 6: it be offensively, whether it be defensively. But as long 301 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 6: as you had that centerpiece in Tom there and everything 302 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 6: ran through him, you were gonna be fine. You can 303 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 6: do you can do any and everything because you understood 304 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 6: he was gonna protect the ball in the most crucial 305 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 6: times and not to run it over. And all you 306 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 6: have to do is go play defense. And what was 307 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 6: Bill Belichick? 308 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 5: He was the defensively, he was a defensive genius. He's 309 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: a google on this ethern side of the ball. And listen, 310 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: they did the best job at taking away your best weapon. 311 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: They were the best at that. 312 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 5: And you know, it's just unfortunate. 313 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: You know. 314 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 6: I don't want to say, I don't want to say 315 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 6: the word I want to use egos. I don't want 316 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 6: to say egos got in the way. 317 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: And it was, it was, it was. 318 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 6: It was a damn pisson contest on who was responsible. 319 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 6: But I think it ruined a great thing. It ruined 320 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 6: the great thing. 321 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: Of course. 322 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: I think the thingo because you saw coordinators come and 323 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: go be at offense, defense, It didn't matter the players 324 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: and people like well, Tom did you have to understand 325 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: everybody can't play in that system. Every great player can't 326 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: play for Coach Belichick. He took players. When he goes 327 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: in drafts, they're doing an evaluation about ego. Is this 328 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: guy gonna be okay catching one pass two passes one 329 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: week and then maybe not catch another pass for two 330 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: three weeks, And so you have to evaluate that because 331 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: the one thing that you're not gonna do is mope 332 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: on Coach Belichick's time. He gonna get you up out 333 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: of there. So you have to understand. You have to 334 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: if you, like I said, Joe, if you know, you 335 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: know you and I played the game for an extend 336 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: period of time, so we know how that things work. 337 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: And I had a coach very similar. Now he wasn't 338 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: as rigid. Mike was not as rigid as Coach Belichick. 339 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: But Mike wasn't gonna set up for that. I don't 340 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: care what round you was drafted in. I don't care 341 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: how much money he gave you. Mike, we get your 342 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: ass up out of there. Yeah, Quip, you did anything 343 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: that wasn't team related? 344 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, And matter of fact, the fact that you say that. 345 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 6: Remember you asked me, h, not too long, maybe maybe 346 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 6: two or three shows ago. You asked me, was I 347 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 6: okay with how things were going in New England being 348 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 6: that it wasn't a productive season that I'm used to having. 349 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 6: You know, if you look my goddamn numbers every every year, 350 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 6: you are you know what time it was. I was right, 351 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 6: I was giving that work. And he was like, well, listen, 352 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 6: whether I was okay with it or not, I understood. 353 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 6: Once you walk in that building, nobody even has to 354 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 6: say anything. I don't know what I don't I don't 355 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 6: know what it is about the Patriots and the Patriot 356 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 6: way and you having a great understanding that you're expendable 357 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 6: no matter who you are. 358 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 4: Smart example, chat. 359 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: Hey, look at all the great players that they had 360 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: then Lloyd they cut Lloyd malloy on a Tuesday, left, 361 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: William mcginnon's left, all those got, all those guys business. 362 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: It didn't matter, It didn't matter. Let me takemore. 363 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 5: But let me tell you something. You know when you 364 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 5: can you can do all that. When you got that goddamn. 365 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 6: Twelve sitting back there and you got worry about because 366 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 6: you can feel every you can feel all the other 367 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 6: roles via draft and. 368 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 5: Then the off season through free agency. But then think 369 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 5: about this. 370 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 6: One of the things, one of the reasons why I 371 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 6: probably would have never even if I didn't have this 372 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 6: example or I saw this example. Randy Moss was upset 373 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 6: about something. I think it might have been contract. It 374 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 6: might have been money. He was just coming off that season. 375 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 6: What they do touchdowns and he had what to do. Yeah, 376 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 6: and he said something in the media about our contract, 377 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 6: about getting paid. 378 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 5: You remember that, I do remember. 379 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 4: Any went back to Minnesota. 380 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 5: He was going, what it wasn't even twenty four hours? 381 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh my god, boy, listen, you already know what 382 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 6: time it is, so you know I wasn't going over 383 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 6: the cutting up. Oh who let one of the greatest 384 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 6: of all, one of the greatest, one of the top 385 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 6: three players of. 386 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 4: All time, go who the fucking by? 387 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 5: I ain't nobody should I was walking on eggshield the 388 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 5: whole time. 389 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: Well, the thing was, oh, Joe, they should say Tom 390 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: Brady at Altars be for you. Yeah, because he's the greatest. 391 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: He's the greatest makeup ever because he can cover he 392 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: could cover up all blomishes that the Patriot had, because 393 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: he was so good. 394 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 4: So he's make up. 395 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: And there only been a handful of guys. You kill 396 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: a guy like Patrick mahone that can do that. 397 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: He's makeup. Tom Brady, he's make up. Those guys like that. 398 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 2: You've got blemishes on your team, they can hide them. 399 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: They're the filter on I G make everything look good. 400 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: And you. 401 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: You fat, you out of shape, you're terrible. But that 402 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: guy can make you look good. And Tom Brady is 403 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: the ultimate makeup. And we might not ever see that again, 404 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: that Patrick Mahomes is firing. But what Tom was able 405 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: to do. I thought when he got the three in 406 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: his first three and four four years, I thought he 407 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 2: could get to five. 408 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 4: I ain't. 409 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: I ain't see I ain't see that. I ain't see seven, 410 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: and I didn't see them constantly in contention. I mean, 411 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 2: think about it. He lost the he lost the Peyton 412 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: three times. The AFC Championship game he lost. That's another 413 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: five appears. Then that's another five three. 414 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 6: That's crazy when you think about it. We talked about this, 415 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 6: We talked about the NFL. We talked about players that 416 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 6: have played the damn Renos, the Barry Sanders hell myself, 417 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 6: uh t O, I'm thinking about all the great players 418 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 6: that have played this game for who knows how long, 419 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 6: never had the opportunity of playing in the super Bowl, 420 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 6: or if you did playing in the super Bowl, you 421 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 6: only played once and then you got Tom. 422 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 4: You got my homes going back. 423 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 6: Over and over and over like het like he playing 424 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 6: the goddamn game of Madden, Tim Benling, goddamned Tom Brady 425 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 6: that have. 426 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: Been what ten times? 427 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: Ten times? 428 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: Ten times? 429 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: This is real life. 430 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 5: This is not a video game. 431 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 6: Do you know how difficult it is to the super 432 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 6: Bowl every year? Yeah, every two or every three or 433 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 6: whatever it may be. They make it look so easy 434 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 6: when the game is very difficult. To the point, I 435 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 6: see why people question the game of football being rigged, 436 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 6: the NFL being rigged, because they make it look so 437 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 6: goddamn easy. 438 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: But I swear for God. I swear for God for you, for. 439 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 6: Those of you in the chat that watch the game 440 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 6: of football and think, oh this is gonna happen, or 441 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 6: oh this is stage and this is I trust me, 442 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 6: it's not. 443 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: You can't do it. 444 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 6: Those individuals are just that good. I swear I saw 445 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 6: it in person for a whole year. 446 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: So look, that's his legacy. If he wants to come back. 447 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: But the last thing you want to see is a 448 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: guy that hangs on too long. We saw Johnny U 449 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: nine us, we saw your namer, We saw Willie made 450 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: staggering in our field's rescue soul. We've seen somebody. Our 451 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: great players play a little bit longer than what they should. 452 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: That's their career, that's theirs. You know, if whatever you 453 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: choose to do, Hey, when you've been a great player, 454 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: if you want to go out on your term, if 455 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: you want to go out like that, so be it. 456 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: I'm not here to judge you. But Tom, I look 457 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: at Tom like a coach k, like a dean, like 458 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: a pat Head Summit. Unless he did something so egregious, 459 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: that is just unforgivable, right right right. You let him 460 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: go out when he wants to go out. That's what 461 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: they did for Coach k That's what they did for 462 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: coach Coach Smith. That's what they did for a coach Summit. 463 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: That's what they do for the great coach. Wouldn't I 464 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: believe Tom is so great of a player. He's been 465 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: so great to that organization. He's been so great to 466 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 2: the city of Boston and the surrounding areas. You let 467 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: him go out on his own. You're like, Tom, how 468 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: long you want to play? 469 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: Tom? I'm serious, So Joe, Yeah you do. 470 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you do? Yeah, I mean me. 471 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 6: I mean listen, if he was, if he was to 472 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 6: come back, I don't think it would be the Patriots. 473 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 5: I don't think it would be. And the funny thing 474 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 5: about it, No, he's over there, huh yeah yeah yeah. 475 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 6: And the funny thing you said about, you know, the 476 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 6: deal with Fox and thirty seven million or whatever it 477 00:21:59,440 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 6: may be. 478 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: What Fox ain't going nowhere? 479 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 5: No, Fox ain't going nowhere. 480 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 6: Fox is gonna always be there, being able to talk 481 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 6: and be in that booth and being that balla, you know, 482 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 6: being that booth doing football games and commentating and breaking 483 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 6: down games. 484 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 5: That's gonna always be there. But at forty seven, if 485 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 5: I want to, if I want. 486 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 6: To fulfill that childhood dream and that that urge to 487 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 6: play and compete one more time, I mean, there's an 488 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 6: opportunity and chance for him to do it because he 489 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 6: is the one person that can do it at forty seven. J. J. 490 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: McCarthy twenty twenty four season is over before it got started. 491 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: The Vikings rookie quarterback Will be sidelined until twenty twenty 492 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: five after undergoing surgery Winnsday to prepare to repair a 493 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: tor maniscus in his right knee. This leaves the team 494 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: veteran Sam Darnold, who signed a one year contract worth 495 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 2: ten million dollars in Mark, as the likely starter in 496 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. There are other quarterbacks on the Viking's 497 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: roster twenty twenty three holdovers mcmullens at Jaron Hall. McCarthy 498 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: suffered the right miniska's terrordor in the Minnesota preseason. Opened 499 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: against the Las Vegas Raiders on Saturday and sat out 500 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: of Money's practice with the initial thought was Niets further 501 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: tests to reveal he had torn his menisca, prompting surgery. 502 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: Ah, listen, I'm not. 503 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: You know. 504 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 5: I don't wish Injuril nobody. 505 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: You know. 506 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 6: I show love and I praise everybody. I always take 507 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 6: it back to nutrition. I think about our days when 508 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 6: we played. 509 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 5: We had too days. 510 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 6: We practiced two out and thirty minutes a day. We 511 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 6: didn't fall like flas. We didn't fall like flas like this. 512 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't I don't know what it is. 513 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: And I don't want to. 514 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 6: I don't want to spend it in any wrong way, 515 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 6: you know, out of out of respect CBA protecting the players. 516 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 6: Practices are much shorter now, you know, they have all 517 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 6: these professional nutritionness and all these meal plans and all 518 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 6: this all this stuff. But for some reason, now when 519 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 6: we practice and we played, we had two days we 520 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 6: practiced two out and thirty minutes in the mornings, took 521 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 6: a break, rested, and had another two hour and thirty 522 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 6: minute practice after and we played football. Yeah, no disrespect 523 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 6: to the day's game. We played football, but we weren't 524 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 6: falling like flash. Now engines are going to happen. Do 525 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 6: you know how many injury this bens in training camp started? 526 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 6: We are in week one, oh a week and a half. 527 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's and that's probably why you know, a 528 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 2: lot of the startered lo Ja we played. We might 529 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: have not played Game one. We played ten plays. The 530 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: next play we played like twenty plays. The third game 531 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: or that. 532 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 5: Third game, were playing all the way to halftime. 533 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: We go into halftime and probably the first drive of the. 534 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 5: Third quarter yeah yeah, and the fourth quarter we relaxed. 535 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 536 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: And then then then the fourth game we're not playing 537 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: at all and we get ready for but I wanted 538 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to play oo because I needed to get 539 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 2: my rhythm. I was a rhythm player. Obviously offensive rhythm, 540 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: but I was a rhythm player. I needed stemps. I 541 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: needed a cadence. I needed to feel people banging on 542 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: me my not guys in in camp on my team, right. 543 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: I needed somebody else to see. I needed to see 544 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: something else. I needed to see guys moving that were 545 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: trying to make the team off at Yeah, yeah, game, 546 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: I needed that. But I just think, oh, Jo for us, 547 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: You're asking these guys to like, you know what, come in, 548 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: We're not gonna do anything, not gonna do anything. And 549 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: then a month later on one hundred miles an hour. Yeah, yeah, 550 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: I just it's it's I think. I just think you're 551 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: asking an awful lot. And maybe the guys they trained 552 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: you damn much. Damn they don't get anybody a chance 553 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: to heal until time off once the season was on, 554 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: won't you. I took a good a good month. I 555 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: ain't do nothing fot five weeks, I ain't do nothing. 556 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I took I took about I took about two months. 557 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: And then and then I was starting to gradually build 558 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: back up. And now I was lifting, you know, I 559 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: do a little light lifting, but I wasn't doing any running. 560 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 4: And then the running I would gradually build up, gradually build. 561 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: Up, so by the time May hit, now I'm about 562 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm about seventy five, eighty percent. Now June, I woulda 563 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 2: rap that thing up to get about ninety five and 564 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: then I'm gonna start tap tapering it back down, getting 565 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: ready to go to camp. Make sure I ain't got 566 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: no no tweets, no anything, because the last thing you 567 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: want to do is going to camp. 568 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, Nick, No, you don't want that. You don't want 569 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 4: to go into the season. 570 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: If you limp into the season, you gonna limp out 571 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: of it, because how do you get help, yo Joe 572 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: when you gotta practice every day and them games come 573 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: like this. 574 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 4: Here, yeah, back to back, back to back back. 575 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: Hopefully the rookie bounces back, because you looked like he 576 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: was off to a promise and start. 577 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 4: I know that's not what he envisioned for his rookie season, 578 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 4: but hey, bro. 579 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 5: Yeah he's gonna he's gonna be Yeah, he'll learn a lot. 580 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 6: But what the Vikings do do need to do with 581 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 6: what they do need to do, and then it's just 582 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 6: no disrespect to what they have on the roster that's left. 583 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 5: Now, who do we expected me to be? 584 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 4: The start? 585 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: Now? 586 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 4: Sam Donald? 587 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: Dam Sam Donald. 588 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 6: No, no disrespect to him, no disrespecting him. But we've 589 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 6: seen the small sample size of what he. 590 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 5: Brings to the table. 591 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 6: Okay, but I'm calling what he's done so far a 592 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 6: small sample side because it hasn't been much. 593 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 4: And that and I mean no disrespect. 594 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 6: You know, dyeing the sky don't lie, the film doesn't lie, 595 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 6: And I mean that in the most respectful way. 596 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 4: Sam, I love you. 597 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 5: Now, what they need to do is to get a 598 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 5: veteran because. 599 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you know what Nick Mullins, You 600 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: know Nick Mullins, he's with he's with Shanahan and hard 601 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: eighteen because they. 602 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 4: Cost so much. 603 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 6: They can't do eighteen like that over there. They got 604 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 6: to get They got to get that young fella somebody. 605 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 6: They got to give him some type of gunslinger, They 606 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 6: got to give him some type of security, some type 607 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 6: of something, because what's going to happen is the numbers 608 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 6: are going to the numbers are going to to what's the. 609 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: Word I'm looking for decrease. 610 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 6: They're going to decrease because of who's at the Helm. 611 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 6: They got to get him somebody in there. I don't 612 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 6: I don't know who. Where's Where's where's Garoppolo. 613 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 4: I don't know where Jimmy g in Atlanta is in Atlanta. 614 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 4: I don't know where he's at. 615 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 6: I'm just somebody who can hell Fitzpatrick bring Fitzpatrick out 616 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 6: of retirement. 617 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 4: No, it's over fits Magic. I mean, you know, listen, 618 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 4: he's not magic. He's at the Rams. 619 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's behind Stetson Bennett because it's it's Stafford 620 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: Bennett and then Jimmy g Jimmy. 621 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 5: Jimmy can slang that thing man the porn stars, Jimmy 622 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 5: can slang that thing. 623 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, gonna be at the A B A v PC convention. Hey, 624 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 4: they need, they need, they need to go get him. 625 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 6: And I'm I'm I'm telling you at some point in 626 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 6: the season, justin Jeffers is he's gonna he's gonna act 627 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 6: a fool. He's gonna act a fool. 628 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: As much as Jack Prescott's contractual future has been a 629 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: constant talking point of the off season, he says he's 630 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: knocking sooned by it, I'm not putting that much starting 631 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: to it, hoping it gets done now, hoping it gets 632 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: done in a couple of weeks during the season, or 633 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: whenever it happens. I just know converse stations are on. 634 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 4: The right way back. 635 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: And then in the final year of his deal, he 636 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: said to make twenty nine million dollars count fifty five 637 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: million against the cap without an extension, Dak will hit 638 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: the free agency market and count forty million against the 639 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: Cowboys cap in twenty twenty five. 640 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 4: What he has, o Jo, they cannot franchise it, right. 641 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: They can't trade him either. 642 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 4: They cannot trade him, so he has all the power. 643 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, which you know what? Which think about this? 644 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 4: How many? 645 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 5: How many times are players in a position where they 646 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 5: had the team by the balls? 647 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: Think about it? 648 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: Not often? 649 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 6: Not often, not often at all? I mean, is a 650 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 6: chess move? If I if I was Dak, I mean, 651 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 6: what do you do? What would you do if you 652 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 6: was Dak? If me myself, if I was Dak and 653 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 6: understanding the circus that comes with being a part of 654 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 6: the Star, I would better myself like he's always done, 655 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 6: like he's always done. 656 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: A choice now, Ojo, because I don't think they're gonna 657 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: get it done because what he's looking for, he's looking 658 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: for sixty million. He's looking to reset the market. He's 659 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: looking at something around five years he. 660 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: Should be able to do. 661 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 5: And I think that's what what's holding up CDs deal 662 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 5: as well. 663 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: So I think, Ojo, that's what they're looking at. Huh, 664 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: sixty he's looking at sixty million. He's looking to reset 665 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: the market. 666 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: Well, if you're gonna reset it, let's go fifty sixty years. 667 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: No, that ain't reset in the market. Fifty five. You 668 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: got three guys making fifty five. In order to reset it, 669 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: you got to go sixty. I'm just I'm just telling 670 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: you because here's the thing, O Joe, as Jared Might says, 671 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm not willing to go there. 672 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: But in free agency, oh. 673 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 5: In order to get an agency, he might get sixty five. 674 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: In order to get a player to leave the situation 675 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: that he's currently in, you're going to have to overpay it. 676 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 6: Pay yeah, most definitely every time. And this isn't the 677 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 6: wonderful thing about the NFL too. Depending on when when 678 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 6: a player's time is up, because very few times do 679 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 6: you get to a position and you are a it's unrestricted, right, 680 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 6: am I saying it? 681 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: Right? 682 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's gonna be unrestricted, unrestricted freedging very few times, 683 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 6: especially the quarterback. 684 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 4: Is it with no chance of the tag being placed 685 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 4: on you nothing. 686 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 6: So that means you getting every every bit of dollar 687 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 6: plus something because whenever, especially somewhat a quarterback like the 688 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 6: caliber of back Prescott, which some would make fun of 689 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 6: him and say, well, he hadn't done anything. Listen, he 690 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 6: changes the dynamic of a team because there's no one 691 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 6: else you can put in his place on the Cowboys 692 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 6: right now except maybe the top five or five or 693 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 6: six quarterbacks in the NFL, and they would still. 694 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 5: Do the same thing, and probably a little further in 695 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 5: the postseason. 696 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 4: But Dak, is it all right? 697 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: I'd like to cut you off. But we got a 698 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: very very special guess we got. We got the Olympic 699 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: four hundred meter hurdle champ. 700 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 4: What's that's right? That's about that came and redeemed himself. 701 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 4: He says, oh, come coping back? What's up? He said? 702 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 4: He coming back? He won the revenge. 703 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: He's been chasing Carston Warholme, the world record holder for 704 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: the better part of three years, and he finally tracked 705 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: him down the Norwegian and the Rye. Here yours, ladies 706 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: and gentlemen, your four hundred meter hurdle champ with a 707 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: time of forty six forty six, Rye Benjamin. 708 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 4: Yes, sir nephew, what's going on? 709 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm living in dream right now. I'm living in dream. Brother. 710 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Rye. Obviously, you have an 711 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: outstanding season. You have been performing really really well. Give 712 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 2: us your mindset going into the Olympics. You had raised him. 713 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: I think you raised him once before at a Diamond 714 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: League meet pre Olympics, and so you had to feel 715 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: good because you beat him, and you had beaten him 716 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: three times since he last beat you. 717 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 4: I think at the at the Olympics Budapest. 718 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, in Budapest. The won Budapest last year. And then 719 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: we went to Prefontaine, I wont not meet, and we 720 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: went to Monaco before the Olympics, now the big one. 721 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: We were all there. 722 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 4: I won that one. 723 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: So going into the Olympics, I was I felt really confident, 724 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: I was calm, I really trusted myself. I think mentally 725 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: I was in a way different place than I was. 726 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: I could tell yeah, previous years and previous seasons, so 727 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I went in. I had the confidence, 728 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, like I felt good. Energy in the stadium 729 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. It was actually like I've been to a 730 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: lot of football games. I've been to I at Death Valley, 731 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: lsu Okay, and I have never heard a stadium get 732 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: that loud in my entire life. It was crazy. So 733 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was. It was a phenomenal, 734 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: phenomenal experience. So just you know, I went in with 735 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: a completely different mindset and I was like, yeah, like 736 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm the guy to beat and the only person 737 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: that's going to beat me is me. 738 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 6: So yeah, I have a question speaking of that race 739 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 6: at the Olympics, did you understand his strengths and weaknesses 740 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 6: and did you have any type of strategic game plan 741 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 6: going into that race and knowing what to do and 742 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 6: when when to kind of hit it, win to back off? 743 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 5: Will be your plans? 744 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: In general? I think so over the past three four years, 745 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: we raced so much so I've seen every single race plan, 746 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: every race strategy, and I think for me, the three 747 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: of us are so good that very little separates us, 748 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: and it's about who could be on on that day, 749 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: who's going to get it on that day, and I think, 750 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: you know, throughout the entire cycle of the Semis, I 751 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: mean the heat Semis finals, you know, I got dealt 752 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: the right hand and those guys were now ran fast 753 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: like the first two rounds. So I knew being out 754 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: in lane eight, I was going to be the one 755 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: to kind of dictate what the race would look like. 756 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: So in my head I was like, all right, like 757 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: I need to I need to really push the pace, 758 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: but do too much so I have enough to come 759 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: home that last rights when when when? When we got out, 760 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: like he gets out really really hard, so he covered 761 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: me a little bit right, and my whole thing was 762 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: all right, just run in lane eight, like focus on 763 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: your your ten hurdles in your lane and get off 764 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: that turn, like put your foot in the ground and 765 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: just go oh yeah. And then coach Watts quincy watch. 766 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: He has a we have this we joke around sometimes 767 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, if it's leaving, I'm leaving. So 768 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: we got off. We got off hurdle seven, and I 769 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: was like, all right, man, I'm out of here. Man, 770 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: So whatever happens happens. And I don't know if you 771 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: guys saw, but like I was coming out off of 772 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: seven and I stumbled a little bit. I was running 773 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: so fast that like the centrifugal force pulled me out 774 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: to the outside of the lane and I kind of 775 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: like stumbled a little bit, and I think that kind 776 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: of costed me like maybe forty six flight. But at 777 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: the same time, like I just had so much momentum, 778 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: I just kept going. So that was just that was 779 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: my That was my game plan going in. To be 780 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: honest with you, just run my pattern. Do what I've 781 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: been doing in the entire season. I mean, Uncle, we talked, 782 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, Uncle, send me a message sometimes after the race, 783 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: even if it went good or bad. So I mean, yeah, 784 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was phenomenal man and them. 785 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm on cloud nine right now. 786 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 2: I could tell right when I when I the thing 787 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: that I was that I was. I always wondered. I say, 788 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: and all these guys, you look at yourself. I mean, 789 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: the four fastest guys ever in Herland history was in 790 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: that race. Aberdeen Ensemble, Dose Santos, warm home yourself. If 791 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: I find all you guys up and I say, run 792 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: one hundred meters, you're gonna win. If I line all 793 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: you guys up in the two hundred and say race 794 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: you're gonna win. If I find all you guys up 795 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 2: in the four hundred and say race you're gonna win, 796 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: I say, why don't right, put this man under the gun. 797 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: See it's it's a different so that I always the 798 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: four hundred and the foreigner hurdles are too completely animal 799 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: really yeah, it's a completely different rhythm. And if if anything, 800 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: it's like you know, when you drive a really fast car, 801 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: it just kind of wants to go all the time. Yeah, 802 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: well you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll be in the neighborhood 803 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: and there'll be a speed bump on the row and 804 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: you can't really go. So you're kind of like gunning 805 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: it light to lath but you can't. I can't really 806 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: do what I need to do because these hurdles are 807 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: in my way and I gotta be on a certain pattern. 808 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: And if that, if you're not on that pattern, like 809 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: you start stutter stepping up, and it kind of ruins 810 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: the rhythm. You were just talking about how when you played, 811 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: you need to be in a certain rhythm, and you 812 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: needed those games to to get in that rhythm, that 813 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: offensive rhythm. So for for me, it's like I need 814 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: to be on that rhythm consistently. Okay, sometimes it requires 815 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: me slowing down a little bit, and no matter how 816 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: strong you are, you still got to get over those 817 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: ten barriers. So that was the Uh, that's that was 818 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: kind of the the kryptonite for me. I mean, like 819 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: in the even like you can see when I run 820 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: open fours or even in the four by four, like 821 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: I can let it go. 822 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah you care, And I was about I was about 823 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: to have feel about that in the open four. 824 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 4: You know Tobogo, you know he'd run low forty four. 825 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,439 Speaker 2: You know he just ran nineteen forty six, He's run 826 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 2: nine eighty six, so you know he has the strength. 827 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 2: So when you got the baton, what was your what 828 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 2: was your strategy? Because when you say what you say, 829 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say what I thought you were gonna do. 830 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I got the Bryce did a phenomenal deal. 831 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean from from Chris to Vernon. Uh, you know, 832 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: v like he v had a hell of a meet, 833 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: hell of a me. 834 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 4: Burn really open it up for you, Burn, Burn get 835 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 4: the job. 836 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: That's my roommate. That's my roommate. So so when Bryce 837 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: brought the baton, in. I mean, he was forty three five, 838 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: like on fire coming through, and I saw how close 839 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 1: the Botswana kid was closing shot. In my head, I'm like, okay, 840 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: if when he gets the baton, he's gonna be at 841 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: least two steps behind me, Yeah, and I know he's 842 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: gonna try and either cover me or sit on the 843 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: first the first hundred. So in my head, I was like, 844 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: all right, don't blast the first hundred like you usually 845 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: do out in about like ten to nine ten eight, 846 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: so you can hold it down the backstretch that way, 847 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: I can get his legs moving because he's Tobogo, He's 848 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 1: he's a two hundred guy and he just ran nineteen four. 849 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: So my whole thought process was he could probably make 850 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: it too. I know you can run to three hundred, 851 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: he could probably make it to three fifty. And this 852 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: last fifty is going to be hot if I could 853 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: bring us through three hundred at like thirty one flat. 854 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: So I'm like all right. In my head, I'm just like, 855 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: all right, take him out first hundred, let him spin 856 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: his legs down the back stretch and even doing that, 857 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: and like I can hear him, and it got so 858 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: loud in that stadium, but I can hear him behind me, 859 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: so I'm in my head. I'm just like, all right, 860 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: stay calm, stay calm, keep that cadence, keep spinning. And 861 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: he stayed at Bay. And then we got to that 862 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: last one twenty and it looks like I was jogging, 863 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: but I'm so smooth. I was open man, and I 864 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: was just like, are we gonna get it this last hundred? 865 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: This list? We got through three hundred to three fifty, 866 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: and he's still at Bay, and I like kind of 867 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: the crowd made Yeah, the crowd made a sound. And 868 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: usually when the crowd makes it sound, it's either somebody 869 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: pulls up or somebody fell. So'm I looked up at 870 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: the jumble tron and I'm just like, I couldn't see 871 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: him because his uniforms blowing. The track is purple, right, 872 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: and I'm so fast, so I check again and I 873 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: was like, damn, he's still here, Like I gotta go. 874 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 1: So like Doug Deep got to three fifty and about 875 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: five ten meters before the line, like I was, I was, 876 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: I was honestly shot and it was just but it 877 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: was too yeah, And that's where the reps and and 878 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 1: and being disciplined and being experienced like comes in because 879 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: I know when that happens, like you're not really getting 880 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: any faster that last hundred. What's happening is is who's 881 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: slowing down the slow slowest. So for me, it was 882 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: just like, man like, don't get walked. Man like I 883 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: get to go medal du yeah on TV in front 884 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: of these people, because I wasn't gonna hear the end 885 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: of it. So yeah, I did exactly that and write 886 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:38,959 Speaker 1: it home for them guys. 887 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: Man. 888 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: So I was like real really hyped up and pumped 889 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: up about that. 890 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 4: Right, I'm not gonna lie. I thought he was gonna 891 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:45,959 Speaker 4: cover you early. 892 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 2: I said he had the type of speed that he's 893 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 2: gonna put right under the gun quick. 894 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 4: I thought he would jump you. 895 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 2: I actually thought he would cover you over the first 896 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 2: one hundred to one fifty and then get the lead 897 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 2: and then settle down. 898 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 4: What he did, and I'm like, I think he might 899 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 4: be making a mistake. I see now go ahead now. 900 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: I think if I got out any slower, he probably 901 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: would have done that. Okay, but I got out at 902 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: such a pace where it was like it's it's kind 903 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: of enticing where you kind of want to go. But 904 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, you know if you go you're gonna die. 905 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: I can really because I run hurdles and it's so rhythmic, 906 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: and I know how to differentiate times like I know 907 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: like what threshold and and what kind of cadence to 908 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: be on. So it was just it was just kind 909 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: of like a bait and switch kind of deal. And 910 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: and just it's a it's a gamble. 911 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 4: You just just kind of. 912 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: Plays out and played out very well. 913 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 6: So it works perfectly, especially when you know your opponent, 914 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 6: you know your you know your opponent's strengths and weaknesses, 915 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 6: and the fact that you understood. 916 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 5: His at that time, you knew what to do in 917 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 5: that race. 918 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: You know. 919 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 6: One of the funny things as soon as you got 920 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 6: as soon as you got the baton, as soon as 921 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 6: you got the baton and started. 922 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 4: Going, that's looking. 923 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 5: Does anyone else tell you your you're running mechanics in 924 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 5: your gate? 925 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: Is? 926 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 5: Is it similar to Michael Johnson? 927 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 4: I heard you notice that? 928 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 929 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 4: Straight up? My glass is like, yeah, I'm like, what 930 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,919 Speaker 4: the hell? That looked like? I got there? 931 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: You got to be that way because when you start 932 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: tenson and you start muskling stuff like that's when you 933 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: start going backwards. So that's that's really the trick right there. 934 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: To be honest, it's just staying relaxed, staying open and 935 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: just running really really efficiently. Did you really no waste 936 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: in movement? None of that? Right? 937 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: We had Michael Johnson on and I remember in Stutguard 938 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 2: when they broke the world record into four hundred meters 939 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 2: they ran two fifty four twenty nine. 940 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 4: And I can go back in my head. 941 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: I know Andrew Bauman laid off with forty four five 942 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: and he went to quinfit your coke, and I think 943 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 2: he ran forty three three, forty three five. He had 944 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 2: it to the world record holder at the time, Butcher 945 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: rentals and he ran low forty forty three. 946 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 4: The race was blown open. 947 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 2: Michael Johnson got the baton and he said, because we 948 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 2: had almost broke the world record where we broke. 949 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 4: It, but I read like mid forty four, almost forty five. 950 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 2: Because I was asking him, I saying, Mike, you do 951 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 2: realize you ran sub forty three with a thirty minute lead, 952 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 2: with a thirty of me to lead. And I said 953 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: why He said, because I didn't want to hear their miles. 954 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 2: He said they had talked about me so bad, so 955 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 2: he ran forty two nine. Did you think you guys 956 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 2: had a chance going into that race? Did you think 957 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 2: this was going to be the. 958 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 4: Second fastest four hundred four by four into history. 959 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: I thought we could have broken it last year. So 960 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: after the past, like if you if you go to 961 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: my Instagram, you look at my last relay post from Budapest, 962 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: I was like, let's go after the world record next 963 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: year because we had all we had all the pieces. 964 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: Quincy's running well, V's running well. I mean I can 965 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: get on the relay and give you a really hot split. 966 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: Michael Norman he was coming back to run well, Chris Bailey, 967 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: Bryce Deadman, and then we had little Quincy just like 968 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: you know, just shoot up out of uh I mean, 969 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say out of nowhere, but like no 970 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: one was expecting him to run forty four low and 971 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: it's just phenomenal. So we had all the pieces. The 972 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: issue is is figuring out who to put on what 973 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: leg to maximize those legs. Okay, and I think because 974 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: Quincy had that little tweaking his hamstring in his final like, 975 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: we had to reshuffle the order. But I knew we 976 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: still had the pieces because V had split forty three 977 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: because uh. 978 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 4: Mix, yeah, and because he ran to mix relay and 979 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 4: open the qualifier. 980 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so V had the forty three in him. 981 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: I knew. I knew Bryce had forty three in him 982 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: as well too, because he was consistently running forty forty 983 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: four lows. So I knew if if if Bryce lights 984 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: come on, he's gonna bring that stick around because he's 985 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: from TEXTA and M, so he's gonna run. And and 986 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: it just all came down to what my leg would be. 987 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: I actually wanted to run second. It's me because I 988 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: knew if I ran second, I would run forty two 989 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: eight or forty two nine. 990 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 4: Wow. 991 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, I just know second leg is the 992 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: best as the best leg because you can on that 993 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 1: tangent when you cut in, you can kind of cheat 994 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: some meters if you do it right. Yeah, So why 995 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: all them second leg splits were so fast? I mean, 996 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: you still got to be fast to be on that 997 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: second leg, but like, if you do it right and 998 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: you run a good tangent, like I'm telling you, you 999 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: can cheat it a little bit and you can get 1000 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: that split. So initially, so when that happened, you know, 1001 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: you know coach Mike marsh came and was just like, hey, man, 1002 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,280 Speaker 1: like I need a dog on anchor leg, because yeah. 1003 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 4: You had to be on anchor so Roth. 1004 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 2: I don't mean to cut you off, but I don't 1005 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 2: know if anybody could have hold, could have played off 1006 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 2: Tobago off other than you, because you, like you said, 1007 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 2: you had a strategy. He didn't put you under the 1008 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 2: gun because of your I think somebody else would have panicked. 1009 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 2: And if you panic in that situation, he gonna chase 1010 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 2: you down like the great Britain did. Antonio Pettigrew, We 1011 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: saw low a good friend of mine, Angelo Taylor. Same 1012 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 2: thing in the Olympics. If you panic on that anchor leg, 1013 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: because everybody got their board. Dog on the anchor so 1014 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 2: everybody can go sub forty three, could go a sub 1015 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: forty four on the anchor leg. 1016 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: If so you all did, like every single as the 1017 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: first leg was forty three, then them boys came to run. 1018 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: I ain't really can't. They were not playing around, man, 1019 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: they were not playing around. 1020 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 4: I did not see this. 1021 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 2: I did not see I did not see two fifty 1022 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 2: four thirty five. I damn sure didn't see the women. 1023 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 2: I damn sure didn't see the women challenging the Soviets 1024 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 2: because I was enough to see that. 1025 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 4: Remember that race and. 1026 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 2: Soul when the Soviet women and it would flow Joe 1027 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 2: and the four hundred meter champ on anchor leg I 1028 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 2: want an. 1029 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 1: Eye SERTs on the Soviets. Listen, Hey, they weren't there, 1030 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: so they not there for re Iji. 1031 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but man, I mean you ran forty three thirteen. 1032 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 2: The bog runs forty three oh three. That's the fastest 1033 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 2: flip that you ever run by Foard. Yeah you know, 1034 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 2: I mean think about it now, you just run forty 1035 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 2: four forty six through the round. 1036 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 4: Qualified did what you needed before the night before? Yes, 1037 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 4: did you know you had that in your legs? 1038 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: Uh? Not really, to be honest with you. In my head, 1039 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: I'm just like, yo, man, like I need to. I like, 1040 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 1: when we both got to stick, I was like, I 1041 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 1: don't know if the broadcast showed it, but I like 1042 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: turned in the stands and I just started to smile, 1043 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, this is about to be crazy. Yeah, 1044 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: and yeah I got lock in for this one. But 1045 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean when it comes to the relays, like I'm 1046 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: usually that's the fun part, Like I always tell people 1047 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: that's the fun part. The hard part is doing your 1048 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: individual event. The fun part is when you get all 1049 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: those guys together. Although where there's a team track and 1050 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: field as an individual sport, so it's just one of 1051 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 1: those things where you have a moment to share as 1052 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: a team. And I think that's where I thrive, is 1053 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: when we come together as a team and share like 1054 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: this experience. So when I got the stick in my head, 1055 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't let these boys down because they 1056 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: did their job. Yeah, I got to do my all 1057 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: on you and and bring home go for Tmosa. So 1058 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: that was just that was that was the focus for me. 1059 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: But I had no idea. We got to the backstretch. 1060 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: My agent was on the backstretch and I was like, 1061 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 1: where did I split? He was like forty three thirteen. 1062 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way. But it was a 1063 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: it was I couldn't believe it because like after I 1064 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: got done, like I wasn't on the floor. I mean 1065 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: I had a little bit of lactic acid, but I 1066 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: just feel like I was just so excited. 1067 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 4: You floating, bro. 1068 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 5: I was like, man, it was just it was definitely 1069 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 5: definitely floating. 1070 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 4: Can I ask you this can I can I get 1071 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 4: you to the women. 1072 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: You had Filmka, you had see it, and everybody's trying 1073 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 2: to build this thing up because Filmica won the indoor 1074 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 2: she ran forty nine seventeen. We saw seid who really 1075 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 2: she's run twenty two oh seven in the two hundred meters, 1076 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 2: which is still like the eighth or ninth fastest time ever. 1077 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 4: Covered by woman. 1078 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four we saw her run forty eight 1079 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 2: seventy five, is just slightly off the American record. Why 1080 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 2: would they trying to build this up when Filke has 1081 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 2: never been closed to see it. 1082 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: I think because the week prior they FEMK went to 1083 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: this meet and had run fifty point nine. So and 1084 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: she did it by herself, And I think what people 1085 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: neglected about that. Although I mean, fifty point nine is 1086 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: ridiculously fast and she did a phenomenal job just navigating 1087 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: ten hurdles by herself doing that, I think what people 1088 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: neglected about that meat because a lot of fast times 1089 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,439 Speaker 1: came out of that meat. It was at altitude, yeah, 1090 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't realize when you're at 1091 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 1: altitude you have less resistance in the year. So that's 1092 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: why that kind of hype came, and you kind of 1093 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: want to build the hype around the event to as 1094 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: well too, because m K was running well all year 1095 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: and it seemed as though that she was the one 1096 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: to give Sydney a run for her money. But Sidney 1097 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: is like, she's like man like. But but what you 1098 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: seen john Wick, Yes, coach coach Holloway from from Florida 1099 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: called me John Wick. I called Sidney john Wick. She listen, 1100 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 1: She's gonna kill you every time, man she's and if 1101 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: if she doesn't, it's gonna be you. You're gonna have to. 1102 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be an act of God for 1103 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,919 Speaker 1: her to lose a race. But here's the thing. 1104 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 2: Every world record site it is said she's been running 1105 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 2: by herself. It's not like she's getting pushed. It's not 1106 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 2: like somebody's going over hurdle nine with her. I think 1107 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 2: the only time the Lula Mohammad pushed her. I think 1108 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 2: the last Olimpic, the Lula push Delila Muhammad pushed her. 1109 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,919 Speaker 2: But if you look at Seid's record at the Prefontaine, 1110 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 2: you look at her at the USA, you look at 1111 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,760 Speaker 2: her at this meat, ain't nobody closed. 1112 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean she just runs with such confidence, 1113 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, and is I feel like at a certain 1114 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: point you could teach so much and then after that 1115 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: it's just pure God given talent man, and and she 1116 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 1: just has that and that you can't teach, can instill 1117 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 1: in anybody. You're just born with that, and there's just 1118 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: nothing you could do about that at all. 1119 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Keim, if you agree or disagree, 1120 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 2: I think said finishes out this year. Maybe she runs 1121 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 2: one meet, maybe she runs another meat and she does 1122 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: the World Championships in the four hundred hurdles. 1123 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 4: But I think after that, I think Bobby. 1124 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 2: Gonna move her down to the no barriers and she's 1125 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 2: gonna go after that forty seven sixty by Madarena Cope. 1126 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,879 Speaker 1: I think she does it next year. Okay, I think 1127 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: she does it next year. I mean like it's like 1128 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: what a like what else does she need to accomplish 1129 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: in the in the fronter Like that is like so 1130 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: far out of reach. I mean I feel like she 1131 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: would for fun run it once and maybe like. 1132 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 4: You try to go sub fifty, she goes sub fifty. 1133 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: But I mean like she's she's she's she's proven, Like 1134 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: she broke the word record twice this year. You know, 1135 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: it's like she doesn't have anything else to prove in 1136 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 1: the event. So I mean, I I like, why not 1137 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: go run the four next year? I feel like that 1138 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: would be my thought process, like let's go try something else. 1139 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, well you never know, this is Bobby. You know, 1140 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: Mobby listened and he you know, he just he that 1141 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: man trying to leave legacies. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean 1142 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't see why not. It's not far fetched. 1143 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,359 Speaker 2: Paulino at Nassler, she got I mean, Paulino just ran 1144 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 2: forty eight seventeen, which is what I think it might 1145 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 2: be the third or fourth fastest time ever run for 1146 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 2: a woman in the open four. 1147 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got crackhal over, you got cold. 1148 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 2: And I think her at forty eight seventeen that might 1149 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 2: be the that might be the third his third or fourth, 1150 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 2: fourth female covered four hundred meters. 1151 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: I know that. Yeah, I think, you know, listen, I 1152 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: think I think Sydney gets locked in and honed into 1153 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: an event and she figures out that rhythm and she 1154 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: and they really hone in on a pattern to do it. 1155 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 1: He's dangerous because she's she's you can't you she's twenty 1156 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 1: two old. Open and the two you got the foot 1157 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,240 Speaker 1: speed and she ran ten nine if I'm not mistaken. 1158 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: When she was at Kentucky at UF bringing outside it 1159 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 1: was crazy. 1160 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 4: So she could come through easy. It ain't a play 1161 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 4: for her to do twenty three five and. 1162 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: Then getting on that rhythm, She gets on that rhythm 1163 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: and then she's dangerous. 1164 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 4: Oh Joe, what you got for listen again? 1165 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 5: Congratulations, That's that's that's, that's all I got, man. 1166 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 6: I'm happy just to hear the stories you know, and 1167 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 6: that that feeling and watching you run that last lead, 1168 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 6: bro Man, So kudos, salute, congratulations. There's really not much 1169 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 6: more I can say your ask at this point. I'm 1170 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 6: just I'm just I'm just happy for you and look 1171 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 6: forward to all future endeavors. 1172 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 4: Man on that track, Yes, sir, you know Michael got 1173 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 4: this this this track series. Are you going to join that? Ry? 1174 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: Uh? 1175 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 4: Hey, reach out brother, but the money, the money, the money, see. 1176 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: Reach out man. I had some conversations with Kyle he's 1177 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: he's uh, he's working with Michael as well too, so 1178 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: I like what they're doing. I feel like this Olympics 1179 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: and this year was really pivotal for track and field 1180 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 1: and it really it really got some We got some 1181 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: new eyes on the sport and people interested. So, uh, 1182 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't stop for us at the Olympics. Guys like, 1183 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: it's just we have a whole season and we have 1184 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 1: this coming up. So all those head to heads that 1185 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: you saw at the Olympics, like, you can see them 1186 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: on numerous occasions throughout the year. And and Sid's gonna 1187 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,839 Speaker 1: be on that circuit as well too. I know one 1188 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 1: of the first ones that Michael signed this well too. 1189 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 1: So I know a lot of people like give her 1190 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of uh grief about not racing 1191 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,359 Speaker 1: enough during the year. Well you're gonna see her race there, 1192 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: so tune in. But they reach out to me, Hey, 1193 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm in there, you feel me? 1194 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 2: Do you have any more meets? I know there are 1195 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 2: a couple of Diamond League meets still left in the season. 1196 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 2: Are you gonna I know, you don't like going overseas, 1197 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,800 Speaker 2: you don't like that long plane ride, get off a 1198 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 2: play head to the track and go run. 1199 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 4: You don't really like that. But are we gonna see 1200 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 4: ride in any Diamond League meets? 1201 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:36,879 Speaker 1: Now I'm done for this season. 1202 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 4: You're gonna ride this way, You're gonna ride. 1203 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: Ride this wave out. Man, Like, I don't think people 1204 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: understand the the level of mental commitment and and gymnastics 1205 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: that you gotta be at throughout the entire because I 1206 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: started competing Monday, So I went Monday through Sunday, and 1207 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 1: it was me and Vernon, Shelby mceue and the high 1208 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: jumper Michael Norman and Bryce. We're all in the same room, 1209 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: so I mean, I mean, we were all just kind 1210 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: of feeding off each other. So it's a it's a 1211 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: lot to mentally be in the room that entire week 1212 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: and and and just to come down from it and 1213 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: the nerves and whatnot, like it it takes a lot. 1214 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: Like imagine competing that playing at the super Bowl for 1215 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 1: an entire week exactly. That's literally what it was. So 1216 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this time to enjoy it, enjoy it 1217 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: with my mom because she was out there and and 1218 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: I feel like this one was like really big for her. 1219 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm still trying to conceptualize what happened 1220 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: this entire week. So I mean, I'm gonna do that, 1221 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: see my friends, see my family, and just just really 1222 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: just you know, enjoy this because I'm Olympic champion, you know, 1223 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people work their entire lives for this, 1224 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: and I was able to achieve that not once, but 1225 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: twice this week. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna live it 1226 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: up and I'm gonna I'm gonna enjoy it. 1227 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 2: And and yeah, oh ko, you didn't know this, but 1228 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 2: Ry was a quarterback, right, what made you give up? 1229 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: Man? I was a wide receiver? My dad, My dad 1230 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: said the wrong thing. Okay, I played wide receiver in 1231 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: free safety in high school. 1232 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, So why why did you give 1233 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 4: up football and went to the. 1234 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 1: Track Because I'm from New York and people of New 1235 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 1: York don't get good scholarships to go to big D 1236 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: one schools. Yeah yeah, so I was like I ran 1237 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: track and it was like, you know, like I wasn't 1238 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: really getting we weren't getting good recruits or recruiters coming 1239 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: out to my high school because we were small high 1240 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: school in Westchester County in New York. So you know, 1241 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: we had one or two guys like you know, go 1242 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: to big universities, but it wasn't like we were going 1243 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: to like LSU or or USC or a Clemson, you 1244 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was just one of 1245 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: those things where you know, that was my avenue out, 1246 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 1: you know. And uh and I was really good at 1247 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 1: track my freshman year, so I just stuck with it. 1248 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 4: So you originally went to u C. 1249 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: L A, then transferred to the ULA for two years. 1250 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: I thought about walking on. To be honest with you, yeah, 1251 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: you gotta give it your trash scholarship because the title 1252 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: not no way in hell, but uh yeah, like a 1253 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: part of me wish I played in college. Yeah, to 1254 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm not gonna pull a Tyreek 1255 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: and say like, you know, I'm fast and now or 1256 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: I can go Yeah, how. 1257 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 4: You know I'm ask you that? How you ask you that? 1258 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: Do you believe I'm gonna say on the show, I'm 1259 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: tired of the no allowed slander, man. 1260 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 4: That's my talk to us. 1261 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: Talk to us about it. I'm the slander. I'm not 1262 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: saying like I can go out and do what you 1263 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 1: guys do and catch a ball across the middle. I 1264 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 1: know how hard it is. Not hard it is to 1265 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 1: read plays and and and and memorize stuff and and 1266 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: go out there and put your body at risk every day. 1267 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: But Tyreek, you're not beating no in a hundred. Man. 1268 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: There's just no way, and you probably won't even beat 1269 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 1: the top collegiate guys, Toady. 1270 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 2: I mean if he long well, not now, but if 1271 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 2: he were to drop out, he's one ninety five if 1272 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 2: he got down The one like. 1273 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 4: One currently is that his friend is about one pounds 1274 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 4: but tall and free. Fred like what fixed one six? 1275 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Two? 1276 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? Typrek five nine? 1277 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: You think he's really one ninety five? 1278 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 4: Solid f Yeah? 1279 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, little Rocky rocked up low right. 1280 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 2: So so you let me ask you a question. Who 1281 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 2: do you think? Who do you think could make it 1282 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 2: on the football team? Could no one played football? Could 1283 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 2: Fred play? 1284 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 4: Fred played football for the longest. 1285 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Brent Fred one hundred percent could play football. 1286 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: Donald Scott, triple jumper, can play football. He played at 1287 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:41,919 Speaker 1: Michigan State. 1288 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 4: Look came up? 1289 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Who else could play football? If I if I we 1290 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of good athletes on the team, man, like, like, 1291 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: I think Vernon Turner could play football as well to 1292 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: another high jumper, yeah, Javan, Like, we we got some athletes. 1293 01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: We got some actual athletes. 1294 01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 2: I can get you. I can get you a wire 1295 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 2: reiet try right if you want it? Hey man, listen, no, no, 1296 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 2: you're not messing legs up. 1297 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 4: No I do. 1298 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, no, telling you. I'm going to go round. 1299 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm on the go route, that go around all I 1300 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: need that goal. I'm out here like this. 1301 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 2: No, you gotta tell her that world record that ruck. 1302 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 2: I mean, right, how close are you to get the 1303 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 2: world record? Forty five ninety four. Everything's gonna have to 1304 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 2: be perfect, Yeah, everything has to be perfect. I feel 1305 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 2: like conditioned right track right people in the race. 1306 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm at a fitness level to do 1307 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,960 Speaker 1: it right now because when we ran the world record 1308 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 1: in Tokyo that year, I split forty three five on 1309 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 1: the relay, and I just split forty three one, So 1310 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: the fitness is there. I think it just comes down to, 1311 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: like I said, like in that that rhythm, and I 1312 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 1: think for me it was more so about getting the 1313 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: metal than it was running at time. Okay it's me 1314 01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,120 Speaker 1: And I think now because now I got the you 1315 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: got the medal, the elusive color, I can now freely 1316 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 1: go about and just you know, just go out and 1317 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: just let it loose and and and see what happens. 1318 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: So now I can kind of shift my focus a 1319 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: little bit and and and and try to go after that, 1320 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 1: but that's a conversation for for next year. Next year's 1321 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a long year and and the long season, 1322 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 1: so we'll see. 1323 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 2: So you're done, So let me ask your question, when 1324 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 2: will you resume training? Okay, you say you're done, your 1325 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 2: track season is over. You're gonna take a month off, 1326 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 2: you take two months off. You wait till the top 1327 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 2: of the year. What what does Rod do in the meantime? 1328 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 2: You don't do any ors, do you? 1329 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 5: No? 1330 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: No, I don't do indoors. I I'm gonna take a 1331 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: month about a month off. I cycle. I started cycling 1332 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 1: last year. I'm gonna do that here and there. I 1333 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: met a great group of people out here and uh 1334 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 1: motifact little road behind like bike okay, okay, like actual 1335 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: bicycle road bike. So I'm gonna do that. And I 1336 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: won't start practice till November, around November fifth, because the 1337 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 1: season goes so late September next year, Okay, yeah, yeah, 1338 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: Tokyo World Championship. 1339 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,000 Speaker 2: World Championship, yeap bro. I mean if we had Quincy, 1340 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 2: we talked to Quintin. Now you get you, Quiffy Verne Deadman. 1341 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 2: Y'all gotta go two fifty three and it'll be another 1342 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 2: thirty years before somebody get it. 1343 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we would. I believe we could do it. I mean, 1344 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: like like I told Quincy before I left, I was like, Bro, 1345 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 1: like you you Olympic champ dog, Like take care, you 1346 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: take care of your body, make sure you're healthy, because 1347 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: like this is like that. What he did was crazy. 1348 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:37,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1349 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Crazy. I never seen like he really got that dog 1350 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: in the shit he does. 1351 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 4: I need you to dig dary. They got to put 1352 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 4: the quiffy Hall gonna do it. 1353 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna do it. So I mean we could do 1354 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 1: it and we stay healthy next year and keep this 1355 01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 1: momentum going like it was just it was. It was 1356 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 1: great energy in the detail, Bro, I can tell you 1357 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: it was great. It was great, I think, but like 1358 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: across the board, like different sports. I mean, we were 1359 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,959 Speaker 1: cheaging each other on it was. It was the team 1360 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: energy too. Was It was infectious down in the in 1361 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:19,479 Speaker 1: that camp. 1362 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 4: So it was. It was. 1363 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you look at Cole Hawker, what he did 1364 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 2: in the fifteen hundred meters, you look at grand Picture. 1365 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 4: What he did in the five and the. 1366 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 1: Night my voice that night chair for that man. 1367 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 4: So man, it was. 1368 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,760 Speaker 1: It was one of the best experience of my entire life. 1369 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: It was the best track me in my entire life. 1370 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 4: So right, man, thanks for joining us. Hey, guys, do 1371 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:42,479 Speaker 4: it a favor. 1372 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 2: Make sure you go follow around il g at King 1373 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 2: ben Rock Rock. Congratulations, Man, you are proud of your nephew. Man, 1374 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 2: good luck, enjoy your time off the Olympic champ Rod 1375 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 2: Benjamin Man, thanks for joining us. 1376 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 4: Uh that pavements on the way. 1377 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, thank you. 1378 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 4: But don't speak. 1379 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Man in his word, huh. 1380 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 4: I don't spit it. Don't spend it all in one place. 1381 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm gonna. I'm 1382 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 1: gonna follow in the wise footsteps again holloween and I'm gonna. 1383 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna donate some of it to uh 1384 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: A good cause that I'm passionate about. 1385 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, hey sir. 1386 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 2: Again, congratulations Man, thanks for stopping by Nightcap. We greatly 1387 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 2: greatly appreciate it. I know our subscribers, our watchers, our viewers, 1388 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 2: our listener they were supporting you all the way. So 1389 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 2: thanks for coming on, sharing some insight what was going 1390 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 2: on in your head the atmosphere of the ambiance of 1391 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 2: the Olympics. Again, congratulations, Enjoy your time off and we'll 1392 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 2: see you down the road. 1393 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, and shout out the editors. Man, And y'all 1394 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 1: got it right this time right. 1395 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 2: They got the dude got Bailey on his bill. Confuse 1396 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 2: Bailey and Benjamin. 1397 01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not like skinned either. 1398 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, but you you got them a reprieve 1399 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 2: because they come on, bro, y'all can't y'all can't have 1400 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 2: a gap that. 1401 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Big chick it that that's the right there. 1402 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:14,080 Speaker 4: Again. 1403 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 2: Congratulations man, enjoy your time off, man, Thank you, Lippy 1404 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 2: old man listened to Poor Herd to meet the hurdles, 1405 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 2: Rod Benjamin, thanks Rocher. 1406 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: All Right, the volume