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Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 4: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 4: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 4: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so
Speaker 4: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlifeilliam Shakespeare said
Speaker 4: in his play As You Like It, all the world's
Speaker 4: a stage, and all the men and women merely players.
Speaker 4: They have their exits and their entrances, and one man
Speaker 4: in his lifetime plays many parts. Today we're going to
Speaker 4: be talking about our life being the stage for our souls.
Speaker 4: I have four very different stories of four men who
Speaker 4: each had a near death experience. Let's start with Andy,
Speaker 4: who had his experience when he was just a teenager
Speaker 4: but remembers it vividly now at the age of eighty four.
Speaker 5: My name is Andy Petro, eighty four. It was a
Speaker 5: few days before graduation from high school. We went as
Speaker 5: a class to a lake outside of Detroit. I'm swimming
Speaker 5: out to the raft to where my friends are, and
Speaker 5: about halfway there, I get really bad cramps and I
Speaker 5: can't kick anymore, and then I'm starting to I go
Speaker 5: down one time. I'm struggling to get up to the top.
Speaker 5: I reach the top, I look over. I can see
Speaker 5: my friends on the platform. I'm waving to them, but
Speaker 5: I can't stay above the water. They're waving back, thinking
Speaker 5: I'm playing a game. And then I'm sinking down. From
Speaker 5: that point on, I never came to the surface again.
Speaker 5: As I'm going down deeper and deeper into the lake,
Speaker 5: it's getting really, very very cold. This is June, and
Speaker 5: lakes in Michigan in June don't know about summer. And
Speaker 5: I'm shivering and shaking, and I'm falling deeper and deeper,
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, I can feel the weeds
Speaker 5: in my feet and now I can't see any more.
Speaker 5: And then finally I hit the bottom of the lake
Speaker 5: and I hit in the sitting position, and I say, oh,
Speaker 5: this is great. Now I can just use my hands
Speaker 5: to push me up. And as I'm pushing down, my
Speaker 5: hands now get stuck in the mud. And now I'm
Speaker 5: there in terrible pain to death. And then I hear
Speaker 5: this voice. Someone's talking to me in my head and
Speaker 5: the voice is, Andy, you have to relax and let
Speaker 5: go for just a minute. And I said, no, I can't.
Speaker 5: I need one breath of air, that's all I need.
Speaker 5: Then the voice says, to make no, Andy, you have
Speaker 5: to relax. You have to stop. You have to let go.
Speaker 5: And then I said to the voice in my head, okay,
Speaker 5: I'll let go, but do you promise to let me
Speaker 5: continue to fight, and the light says yes, okay, we promise,
Speaker 5: and then I let go. And the minute I formed
Speaker 5: the word go in my head, I popped out of
Speaker 5: my body, frozen, cold, shivering, shaking, and in a minute
Speaker 5: what I call a moment of no time, I'm now
Speaker 5: in a tunnel and I'm looking around and I'm not cold,
Speaker 5: I'm not freezing I'm in a body, but I don't
Speaker 5: recognize the body. And I look around and I see down.
Speaker 5: As I'm looking over to the left, I can see
Speaker 5: down at the bottom of the lake, there's my body.
Speaker 5: I'll say, well, that's strange because I couldn't see down it.
Speaker 5: But I see it, and I look away, and I
Speaker 5: was not concerned, and I turned into the other direction
Speaker 5: and I see the tunnel and at the end of
Speaker 5: the light, the tunnel is a bright light. It's so bright.
Speaker 5: I say to myself, you know, this thing should be
Speaker 5: burning my retinas. This is the brightest thing I could
Speaker 5: ever imagine. It's like a thousand suns all exploding at
Speaker 5: the same time. And then I'm drawn. I'm pulled into
Speaker 5: the tunnel like by a gentle magnet. And I'm pulled
Speaker 5: into the tunnel. And as I'm moving into the tunnel,
Speaker 5: I can feel a breeze on my face. And then
Speaker 5: at the next moment of no time, I'm now in
Speaker 5: a giant sphere, in a ball the size of a
Speaker 5: basketball coliseum. I'm hovering in the center of the ball,
Speaker 5: and next to me, I can't see it, but I
Speaker 5: know it's there is the light, and the light and
Speaker 5: I are talking now with my mouth because I don't
Speaker 5: have a mouth, March. I don't have eyes, I don't
Speaker 5: have ears, but I have things that allow me to
Speaker 5: communicate and to see and to hear. And as I
Speaker 5: look on the inside of the giant ball giant sphere,
Speaker 5: are countless, maybe hundreds of thousands of like little TV
Speaker 5: sets or movie screens, and each one has a specific
Speaker 5: action that I had taken in my life. As soon
Speaker 5: as I would focus on one, I would immediately, almost magically,
Speaker 5: be there. The difference is every time I relived one
Speaker 5: of my life experiences, I relived it in such a
Speaker 5: fashion that I knew and understood what everyone was thinking
Speaker 5: and how they were feeling about our interaction. And then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden again and I'm mowing of no time.
Speaker 5: I pop out of the sphere and I'm in the
Speaker 5: tunnel now and I'm featuring very close to the light,
Speaker 5: and the light is in front of me now, and
Speaker 5: it's like a giant silhouette. There was no gender to it.
Speaker 5: It was just a way, but it was very loving
Speaker 5: and war when it was pulling me. And as I
Speaker 5: got close to the light, the light said three things
Speaker 5: that I could understand, and the light said to me, Andy,
Speaker 5: don't be afraid. Andy, I love you, and Andy, we
Speaker 5: love you. And when the light said Andy, we love you,
Speaker 5: in back of the light, there were billions of other
Speaker 5: lights just like me, holographic pieces of the light, and
Speaker 5: they all said in one because Andy, welcome home. I
Speaker 5: can tell you that is the best I've ever felt
Speaker 5: as I was in existence. It was so wonderful to behold.
Speaker 5: And at that point, when the billions of other pieces
Speaker 5: of the light said Andy, welcome home, I was absorbed
Speaker 5: into the light. I didn't go into the light. I
Speaker 5: was absorbed into the light. It was like if the
Speaker 5: light was a large glass of water, and if Andy
Speaker 5: was a peacefoon of sugar, and you put the sugar
Speaker 5: in the water and spin it around, and then look
Speaker 5: at it. Where's Andy? Everywhere? Where's the light? Everywhere? I
Speaker 5: became the light. I was not greater than the light.
Speaker 5: I was not lesser than the light. I was a
Speaker 5: holographic piece of the light. And I was ecstatic. My
Speaker 5: whole body right now as I am speaking, is filled
Speaker 5: with chills. I remembered as if it just happened ten
Speaker 5: seconds ago, not sixty five years ago. That feeling has
Speaker 5: never left me, and it has been the thing that
Speaker 5: has kept me going when I really felt that I
Speaker 5: didn't belong coming back. So then the Light says, Andy,
Speaker 5: let's go. Do you have any questions for me? And
Speaker 5: my answer was no, I don't have any questions why
Speaker 5: because when I was absorbed by the light, I knew
Speaker 5: everything I did. I knew everything about everything. When I
Speaker 5: was in the light and we went around and to
Speaker 5: travel through universes, it seemed like I was there for
Speaker 5: maybe years. In Earth time, I was there for about
Speaker 5: ten minutes, because it took ten or fifteen minutes for
Speaker 5: somewhere to find my body bring me back up on Sure,
Speaker 5: I didn't know any of that that was going on
Speaker 5: because I wasn't there. The body was there, but I
Speaker 5: was in the light, and I'm having so much fun
Speaker 5: in the life. It's funny. And we were talking and laughing,
Speaker 5: and we were talking about were viewing my life. We
Speaker 5: were laughing at Andy, you spent so much of your
Speaker 5: time on all these planets being too serious. Life is
Speaker 5: to be enjoyed. That's why you've come. Because in the light,
Speaker 5: there are no highs and loads, there are no fat
Speaker 5: and thin there is no light in day. It's all
Speaker 5: unconditional low that consumed you and absorbed you. And that
Speaker 5: is the pinnacle of what it feels like to be
Speaker 5: an entity. After that point in time, the light says
Speaker 5: to me, Andy, it's time to go back, time to
Speaker 5: go back. No, no, no, I said, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: I'm not going back. I'm sorry. The answer is no,
Speaker 5: And the light says, for the second time, Andy, you're
Speaker 5: going back, And I said, uh, excuse me, did you
Speaker 5: hear what I said. I'm staying. I'm homeing. Why would
Speaker 5: I ever want to go back? And the third time,
Speaker 5: the light said to me, and you're going back. When
Speaker 5: I heard the k in back, I was stuffed back
Speaker 5: into my body, which now was no longer in the
Speaker 5: mud at the bottom of the lake, but was laying
Speaker 5: on the sand of the beach. And during that entire process,
Speaker 5: from the moment I drowned until the moment I was
Speaker 5: still back into my body, I never lost one second
Speaker 5: of consciousness. I have no voige, no dark spots. No
Speaker 5: I can't remember. I remember everything, every moment, every second
Speaker 5: of that time. And now I'm in my body and
Speaker 5: I start to cry. All my classmates are around me, though.
Speaker 5: They're so glad that I am alive. I'm not that
Speaker 5: happy about it, but they're so glad that I didn't
Speaker 5: die on senior Picnic day. And so I look around
Speaker 5: and I say, why are you crying any It must
Speaker 5: be pain? Yeah, yeah, it must be pain. So I said, well,
Speaker 5: tell me what happened. What do you remember? And I said,
Speaker 5: my first, great lie, I don't remember a damn thing.
Speaker 5: It's a complete blank. Because I couldn't tell them about
Speaker 5: the light. I didn't even know what was How am
Speaker 5: I going to explain that. I was brought up as
Speaker 5: a Catholic, I went the confession every week. I was
Speaker 5: very very religious in capital letters person. What I saw
Speaker 5: and experiencing the light did not correlate or relate at
Speaker 5: all to what I knew and what I was taught
Speaker 5: on earth. So okay, that's it. I know that eventually
Speaker 5: i'll forget about this. So I started a journey to forget,
Speaker 5: and I couldn't forget. I dream about it every night.
Speaker 5: I felt like a stranger in a strange land. I
Speaker 5: didn't belong here. I belong in the light. That's what
Speaker 5: I can remember. That's where I want to go. That's
Speaker 5: where I want to be. Well, it's been over sixty
Speaker 5: five years and I'm still here. What are you waiting for?
Speaker 5: And that experience is with me twenty four to seven
Speaker 5: all the time.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: I spent those twenty five years searching. I searched all
Speaker 5: the major religions. I did meditations, I did all types
Speaker 5: of yoga. I did everything I could to try to
Speaker 5: see if I could understand it. It wasn't until I
Speaker 5: read doctor Muhi's book that I said, ah, that's what
Speaker 5: I had. Took me almost thirty years to figure out.
Speaker 5: I had a near death experience. But I had it
Speaker 5: so early in time that phrase didn't even exist until
Speaker 5: I read it in the book. At that point in time,
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Okay, now I know what it is. It
Speaker 5: still took me ten or fifteen years before I spoke
Speaker 5: about it first time. I never told anyone for almost
Speaker 5: forty years, and then I started talking about it. The
Speaker 5: point is that that was such a wonderful, blissful thing,
Speaker 5: and the things that I remember from the light telling
Speaker 5: me and he remember everything on the planet is an illusion.
Speaker 5: It isn't real. Reality is in the light when you're
Speaker 5: on Earth. It's like being in a Broadway play and
Speaker 5: there are eight billion actors and everybody doing their part.
Speaker 5: But that's not reality. And so as a stranger in
Speaker 5: a strange land, I'm saying, that has really been the
Speaker 5: most significant thing I could have ever experienced of earth dying,
Speaker 5: because there is no death earth dying, going into the
Speaker 5: light and coming back, and even through all the years
Speaker 5: of trial and struggle and trying to understand, in the
Speaker 5: back of my mind, in the back of my memory,
Speaker 5: at the back of forever will be my near death experience.
Speaker 4: That was Andy Petro, and he was referencing doctor Moody,
Speaker 4: who first coined the phrase near death experience in his
Speaker 4: book Life After Life in nineteen seventy five. We'll be
Speaker 4: back after the break with our next near death experience.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain,
Speaker 4: and we are exploring life is a stage, this journey
Speaker 4: through near death experiences. Next we'll hear from Rich Kelly,
Speaker 4: who had a very different near death experience, also being
Speaker 4: a teenager, also while swimming. He comes back with a
Speaker 4: very profound feeling about the nature of reality.
Speaker 3: I died when I was fifteen years old. I drown
Speaker 3: out in the ocean. I've got this wave, wall of
Speaker 3: water coming down over the top of my head and
Speaker 3: falling in front of me. It hadn't broken yet, so
Speaker 3: it didn't make any noise. I didn't have a chance
Speaker 3: to catch a breath of air, hold my breath, nothing.
Speaker 3: Just suddenly found myself underwater, opened my eyes and saw
Speaker 3: nothing but and swirling everywhere. It was as if things
Speaker 3: went into slow motion and literally relived my life at
Speaker 3: that point, only fifteen years of it, but relived the
Speaker 3: whole thing. That's how much time slowed down. I went
Speaker 3: down for the last time, and I knew it was
Speaker 3: I just didn't have the energy. There was no energy
Speaker 3: left in me to fight it. And at that point,
Speaker 3: this incredible, profound sense of peace overcame me somehow. I
Speaker 3: had this sense that I was going to be okay,
Speaker 3: no harm was going to come to me, distinctly, a
Speaker 3: feeling that I was loved, which begged the question by
Speaker 3: whom at that point in my life, I was a
Speaker 3: profound dignostic. I just couldn't tell you if there was
Speaker 3: a God or not. I, as far as I was concerned,
Speaker 3: I didn't have enough information. So it wasn't like I
Speaker 3: carried with me this belief in God, which makes it
Speaker 3: all the more interesting that I had this sense of
Speaker 3: profound peace and the feeling of being loved, because it
Speaker 3: begged the question by whom I knew I was leaving
Speaker 3: the earth. And just as if I were to say
Speaker 3: to you, picture yourself on a lake, you would draw
Speaker 3: a mental image in your mind of being on a lake.
Speaker 3: You're not physically there, you don't see it, but we
Speaker 3: use words and then we draw pictures in our minds. Well,
Speaker 3: just like that, I pictured myself leaving the Earth, and
Speaker 3: I pictured myself out in space looking at the Earth
Speaker 3: from not a considerable distance, but you know, there's the
Speaker 3: Earth right in front of me. And what was so
Speaker 3: strange about looking at the Earth like that was that
Speaker 3: at that moment, you could have asked me any given
Speaker 3: moment in my life, because I just relived it. But
Speaker 3: you could have asked me any given moment in any
Speaker 3: person's life on that planet, and I could have told you.
Speaker 3: All of that information was right there, it was available.
Speaker 3: And what kept going through my mind at this point was, oh,
Speaker 3: of course I was, if you will, remembering what I
Speaker 3: had forgotten very intentionally in order to be on this planet,
Speaker 3: which is what we all do. In point of fact,
Speaker 3: I don't think that this planet exists. It's a figment
Speaker 3: of our imagination, and we have a very good imagination.
Speaker 3: We're incredibly creative beings. The analogy I make it because
Speaker 3: I think it works so well. It's like when you're
Speaker 3: sitting in a chair reading a book that's a really
Speaker 3: good book that you're really involved in. Somebody could walk
Speaker 3: in the room and talk to you, and you don't
Speaker 3: know they're there. Your focus of attention is on the
Speaker 3: story in the book, and you can get so preoccupied
Speaker 3: with that you lose track of everything around you. You
Speaker 3: just tune all that out and you focus on one thing. Similarly,
Speaker 3: you know everything about what your life's going to be
Speaker 3: like here from beginning to end. You knew it before
Speaker 3: where you got here, and you will know it again
Speaker 3: when you leave here. But while you're here, you're focused
Speaker 3: on it, and you're focused on each given moment in it,
Speaker 3: And when you leave here, it all comes rushing back
Speaker 3: and you say, of course, yes that. And it's also simple,
Speaker 3: what is your life like when you're not here? At
Speaker 3: that moment, I no longer had any awareness of any
Speaker 3: of my senses. I didn't have a body, I didn't
Speaker 3: see anything. I could picture the Earth in my mind,
Speaker 3: but I didn't see the earth. I didn't see blackness.
Speaker 3: I saw nothing. There was no sight, there was no touch,
Speaker 3: there was no taste, there was no smell, there was
Speaker 3: no feel. Didn't have any of those senses at all,
Speaker 3: and yet my mind was functioning. So in my mind
Speaker 3: I pictured turning away from the Earth and going out
Speaker 3: into space. That's the way I pictured it in my mind,
Speaker 3: because all of a sudden, all your senses are cut
Speaker 3: off and you feel very disoriented. And at this point,
Speaker 3: the white light in the tunnel plays in. I sensed
Speaker 3: that I was loved. I sensed that I would be fine.
Speaker 3: Where is that coming from? And how do I go
Speaker 3: to that? Well, initially, that's a very small thing, if
Speaker 3: you will, and yet as you try to turn your
Speaker 3: focus on it, and I don't mean your visual focus,
Speaker 3: but you focus your mind on that and wanting to
Speaker 3: go there, it becomes bigger. And so it's as if
Speaker 3: it is a little ray of light off in the
Speaker 3: distance with dark all around it, which could easily be
Speaker 3: described as a tunnel. It somehow seems distant, although it
Speaker 3: seems to be getting closer, because with all your other
Speaker 3: input cut off, you focus on it more. It's the
Speaker 3: only thing you have left to focus upon. And so
Speaker 3: you move through the tunnel and towards the light. And
Speaker 3: I won't say that you're greeted there by some people
Speaker 3: who walk up and how you doing, fred and shake
Speaker 3: your hand. No, there's no bodies there. There can be.
Speaker 3: You can picture them that way You pictured them the air,
Speaker 3: and you can picture them there if you want to.
Speaker 3: This gets really confusing because we are creating our reality
Speaker 3: here on this planet, every last bit of it. We're
Speaker 3: creating it in our mind, and science is starting to
Speaker 3: bear this out. If you've seen the movie What the Bleep,
Speaker 3: the quantum physicists will tell you look at water and
Speaker 3: you change its molecular structure, You're creating your reality here.
Speaker 3: If I was going to try to describe what I
Speaker 3: believe we are at our source, what we are like.
Speaker 3: We are extremely creative beings. We can sit and do
Speaker 3: absolutely nothing and be as little as possible if we
Speaker 3: want to, but it just doesn't seem to be in
Speaker 3: our nature. We like to create things. And if you
Speaker 3: made the analogy that your life was like a movie
Speaker 3: that you made where you picked all of the characters
Speaker 3: and the actors to play in your movie, and you
Speaker 3: wrote the script out and said, this is what I
Speaker 3: want to have happen and how I want it to be,
Speaker 3: that would be a very good analogy. And that's where
Speaker 3: it gets really interesting because from this perspective, we're very
Speaker 3: much used to the idea of looking at things and
Speaker 3: judging things. I like that, I don't like that, and
Speaker 3: we of course assume that there is a universal good
Speaker 3: and bad out there. I agree there's a universal good
Speaker 3: and bad out there. But here's the strange twist to
Speaker 3: it is that the universal part of it is the
Speaker 3: fact that good is what you like and bad is
Speaker 3: what you don't like, and it's different for everybody. And
Speaker 3: that's where life gets really strange because people then say, well,
Speaker 3: but there's no universal good or evil. No, there isn't.
Speaker 3: Well what about good and bad? There aren't any. That
Speaker 3: sounds kind of harsh and really twisted from what most
Speaker 3: people think, because we're all pretty much brought up to
Speaker 3: believe that there are good things and bad things in life. Well,
Speaker 3: that's true from any given perspective, but not universally. If
Speaker 3: this is all a stage play and none of it's real,
Speaker 3: none of it truly exists except in our minds, and
Speaker 3: we are all co authoring each other's plays as well
Speaker 3: as our own, and getting together and putting this play together,
Speaker 3: then what happens here is all an experiment in what
Speaker 3: it's like to focus on a given set of circumstances
Speaker 3: of our own making. And it's okay, doesn't make any
Speaker 3: difference how it turns out, doesn't make any difference what
Speaker 3: you do. You came here to experience those things. Well.
Speaker 3: It has the distinct disadvantage that you don't get to
Speaker 3: blame everything that's gone wrong in your life on God
Speaker 3: or the devil, or who whoever it is you want
Speaker 3: to try to put in that little slot, if in
Speaker 3: point of fact, you're the author of it all and
Speaker 3: that you agreed to it all long before you came here.
Speaker 3: It has the distinct advantage that you can never be
Speaker 3: a victim unless you chose to be one, and even
Speaker 3: then you aren't truly a victim. You're experiencing what it
Speaker 3: feels like to be one, but you aren't. This has
Speaker 3: got a real distinct advantage to it, if you think
Speaker 3: about it, because you have nothing to fear, which is
Speaker 3: a lot better way to live your life than running
Speaker 3: around scared all the time. That you could become a victim.
Speaker 3: There are things out there that could happen to you
Speaker 3: that are beyond your control. The first place, what I
Speaker 3: experience tells me that that's not the case. But just
Speaker 3: as a practical matter, here we both hope that that's
Speaker 3: not the case, because if it is, you could be
Speaker 3: a victim. And in my world, I can't be Which
Speaker 3: world did you rather live in? As a practical matter,
Speaker 3: I'd rather live in my world. Now. These things were
Speaker 3: obvious to me when I was there. No, I didn't
Speaker 3: get mad at the pearly gates. No I wasn't in heaven.
Speaker 3: No I wasn't in hell. No I wasn't in purgatory.
Speaker 3: I was in a wonderful place. I felt completely loved.
Speaker 3: I was in touch with a vast array of other beings.
Speaker 3: I was part of it, they were part of me.
Speaker 3: We're all one. If I was going to try to
Speaker 3: address the question of whether or not there is a God,
Speaker 3: I would say to you that if there is a god,
Speaker 3: first off, what you're doing in your playtime on this playground,
Speaker 3: he doesn't care about anymore than your mom worries about
Speaker 3: what it is you're doing on a playground. If you're
Speaker 3: simply out there playing a game of ball and nobody's
Speaker 3: getting hurt, and there's no problems. She didn't care about
Speaker 3: every little detail, And it doesn't make any difference whether
Speaker 3: you hit the ball directly into center field or off
Speaker 3: in the left field, doesn't matter. And so I'm on
Speaker 3: the other side, and I'm in this sea of beings,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I felt somebody grab my arm,
Speaker 3: which at this point threw me because I didn't have
Speaker 3: an arm anymore. And I just kind of got used
Speaker 3: to the idea that I didn't and I felt my
Speaker 3: body get tug which I didn't have at least I
Speaker 3: didn't a moment ago. And the very first thing that
Speaker 3: I saw right after I felt that was my eyes open,
Speaker 3: looking at the beach and I'm in a wave and
Speaker 3: being pushed towards the beach, and no one's got a
Speaker 3: hold of me, and I started swimming, and when I
Speaker 3: got to the beach, I was just totally spent, laid
Speaker 3: there in a heap for I don't know how long,
Speaker 3: probably fifteen twenty minutes. And I've had many people ask me, so,
Speaker 3: who pulled you out? I don't know. Within me, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, It makes no difference. It was my time
Speaker 3: to go, and then no, it isn't your time to go,
Speaker 3: it's your time to go back. Okay, fine, I can
Speaker 3: tell you I've never looked at life the same again.
Speaker 4: Quite profound words. You'll be interested to know that. Rich
Speaker 4: Kelly went on to becoming an actor and a psychic
Speaker 4: in his career. We'll go to the break and we'll
Speaker 4: be back with two more near death experiences. You're listening
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Speaker 4: Are you ready for another near death experience? We have
Speaker 4: Aaron Green a forty eight year old man, but he
Speaker 4: tells the story of what happened when he was a
Speaker 4: six year old boy. Now, from the hundreds of people
Speaker 4: that I've spoken to who have had near death experiences,
Speaker 4: I would say ninety nine percent of them remember them
Speaker 4: as if they were just yesterday or just ten minutes ago.
Speaker 4: Aaron is no different. In fact, the way he tells
Speaker 4: the story sounds like a six year old boy. Here's
Speaker 4: Aaron Green.
Speaker 8: One afternoon, I was playing with some friends in a
Speaker 8: neighbor's backyard and I developed a breathing problem, and no
Speaker 8: matter what I did, I couldn't get a good breath.
Speaker 8: I just couldn't breathe. Right as I was walking away
Speaker 8: from my friend, I was trying to go home to
Speaker 8: try to get help because I couldn't breathe. I'm not
Speaker 8: sure what happened, but my consciousness, or my soul, whatever
Speaker 8: it is that I really am, it came out of
Speaker 8: my body and I watched as my body fell to
Speaker 8: the ground, and I was just kind of floating there,
Speaker 8: looking at my body on the ground and looking at
Speaker 8: my friends. Very quickly, I had a life review, like
Speaker 8: my life flashed in front of me complete detail those
Speaker 8: six years as a kid. And what really stood out
Speaker 8: was that not only did I re experience everything I
Speaker 8: had been through and relived my life, but I could
Speaker 8: like literally feel my parents' emotions and feelings and what
Speaker 8: they had been through dealing with me. It wasn't just
Speaker 8: that I relived my life, but I like experienced the
Speaker 8: life of the people I had been in contact with.
Speaker 8: When that was over, I was still just floating there
Speaker 8: and I noticed a light in the distance, and I
Speaker 8: knew it was really important, but I didn't understand why
Speaker 8: or what it was. I just continued to float there.
Speaker 8: As I did, I started to remember things that I
Speaker 8: had experienced as a soul. One thing that really stood
Speaker 8: out was that I relived an experience of how I
Speaker 8: came into being as a soul, kind of like a
Speaker 8: newborn soul, and I was inexperienced and ignorant, but otherwise
Speaker 8: pretty happy. I was asked if I wanted to see
Speaker 8: the face of God, and I agreed, and I was
Speaker 8: shown a huge sun like entity, and there was millions
Speaker 8: and millions of millions of faces all kind of merged
Speaker 8: with God, and each face was a soul kind of
Speaker 8: like me. They maintained their own individuality, but they were
Speaker 8: also merged with God and part of God. God explained
Speaker 8: to me that I was a new soul being created,
Speaker 8: and that God had a wonderful existence for all of us,
Speaker 8: and that God was loving and kind and compassionate and
Speaker 8: honest and caring, gentle, and very kind to me, and
Speaker 8: that in order for me to enjoy the experience that
Speaker 8: God had in store for me, I needed to also
Speaker 8: freely choose those same kind of characteristics that God had.
Speaker 8: I needed to freely choose to be loving and kind
Speaker 8: and compassionate and honest, and that the God had an
Speaker 8: experience prepared for me and for all these other souls,
Speaker 8: and that it would help us grow and to become
Speaker 8: the kind of souls we need it to be, so
Speaker 8: that we could appreciate the kind of existence that God
Speaker 8: had in store for us. This was going to be
Speaker 8: very very short, It was going to be very difficult,
Speaker 8: and when we got through this process, we would be
Speaker 8: free to enjoy God's creation and to really enjoy our existence,
Speaker 8: and we could get all the bad stuff out of
Speaker 8: the way very quickly. I agreed with the plan, and
Speaker 8: I was shown during my experience that I chose this
Speaker 8: life that I chose this body. I was shown that
Speaker 8: I could have picked like anybody out there, and I
Speaker 8: picked the parents that I was going to be born into.
Speaker 8: I picked the body. I wanted to be really intelligent,
Speaker 8: but there was downsides. If I had been really intelligent,
Speaker 8: I would have been kind of arrogant and I wouldn't
Speaker 8: have been as nice of a person. I wanted to
Speaker 8: be like a really good looking person, but I was
Speaker 8: shown that if I had been like a really really
Speaker 8: good looking person, that would have changed the way I
Speaker 8: lived my life and it wouldn't have been as good
Speaker 8: for me in my development. So I chose a more
Speaker 8: average looking body. And I was shown that a lot
Speaker 8: of events in my life they were like planned out
Speaker 8: ahead of time, and certain events that were going to
Speaker 8: happen to be For example, I got my nose broken
Speaker 8: when I was a teenager. I got hit me and
Speaker 8: broke my nose, and I was shown like a brief
Speaker 8: clip from a previous life. I was shown that I
Speaker 8: had gotten in the fight and I had hurt another person.
Speaker 8: I had beat them up pretty bad, and it's kind
Speaker 8: of like this life, I was going to have my
Speaker 8: nose broken as a result of something I had done
Speaker 8: in the previous life where I had hurt somebody, and
Speaker 8: I saw that I was going to break my shoulder
Speaker 8: and dislocate my shoulder. I was going to have some
Speaker 8: arm problems. And I saw that some of the relationships
Speaker 8: that I would have, like some of that stuff was
Speaker 8: planned out ahead of time, and like different souls were
Speaker 8: making agreements about the role that they would play in
Speaker 8: each other's life, and some of that was planned out.
Speaker 8: And I saw souls preparing for the life, and some
Speaker 8: of them requested challenges and difficulties, and the reason they
Speaker 8: wanted these challenges and difficulties was because it would help
Speaker 8: them to grow and to become a stronger, wiser soul,
Speaker 8: and so that they would be able to progress further.
Speaker 8: I was shown that we're all progressing a little bit,
Speaker 8: and the difficulties we face and overcome, they like help
Speaker 8: us grow as a soul. And that was all perfectly
Speaker 8: clear to me. And I was shown that different souls
Speaker 8: are at different levels, and after life is over, some
Speaker 8: souls are going to be pretty happy and some souls
Speaker 8: are going to be kind of unhappy. I was also
Speaker 8: shown that the souls that are unhappy after life. They're
Speaker 8: not stuck. They can continue to progress and move on,
Speaker 8: like no soul is ever stuck in one state forever.
Speaker 8: But all of us have opportunities to grow and to
Speaker 8: progress and become better. But eventually all of us are
Speaker 8: going to leave this cycle and be done with this place,
Speaker 8: and we'll be able to go to a much happier
Speaker 8: form of existence. But all this was shown to me
Speaker 8: very clearly during my experience. I'd floated there next to
Speaker 8: my body for a while, an angel or a being
Speaker 8: of light came to me and told me that I
Speaker 8: wasn't supposed to leave my body and I needed to
Speaker 8: go back. I quickly went back to my body and
Speaker 8: I stood up and went home. That was back when
Speaker 8: I was six years old, and here I am forty
Speaker 8: eight years old, and I'm just trying to explain my
Speaker 8: experience to people that I saw for myself that we
Speaker 8: all exist independently of these bodies, and we're going to
Speaker 8: continue to exist after this life. What was really clear
Speaker 8: from my experience was that we need to try to
Speaker 8: be good to each other, you know, just try to
Speaker 8: be kind and compassionate and loving and helpful to other people.
Speaker 8: And if we do that we help ourselves progress spiritually
Speaker 8: towards becoming the kind of souls that we're supposed to be,
Speaker 8: and we help other people as they do the same.
Speaker 8: It was very obvious that we're more than just these
Speaker 8: bodies that we all exist as the eternal beings. Like
Speaker 8: this physical body restrains us or kind of like holds
Speaker 8: us down. And when we're done with these bodies, we're
Speaker 8: more free and we're more intelligent and we can do
Speaker 8: what we want to a lot more. But this body,
Speaker 8: this life, it's a big opportunity to grow spiritually and
Speaker 8: to become a better, more evolved soul. And the other
Speaker 8: thing that was really important was just, you know, it's
Speaker 8: really simple. We just need to be good to other people.
Speaker 8: We need to be kind and compassionate and honest and
Speaker 8: caring and try to help other people if we can.
Speaker 8: And that is really important that we just try to
Speaker 8: be good to other people. I saw other souls, and
Speaker 8: it looked like souls were at different levels, Like some
Speaker 8: souls were very simple and some souls were very advanced.
Speaker 8: The level of progress that each soul was at was
Speaker 8: completely dependent on their own efforts and their own own experiences,
Speaker 8: and they needed to grow through their own actions and learning.
Speaker 8: There wasn't a shortcut. And God was beautiful and just
Speaker 8: extremely loving and kind and very much cared about me
Speaker 8: and all of us very much. It was just wonderful
Speaker 8: to be with God. With God, there was no hate
Speaker 8: or judgment or meanness or anything like that. It was
Speaker 8: all positive and good. Had interactions with God and with
Speaker 8: other souls and with I guess they were angels and
Speaker 8: also guides, you know, Gouids helped the plan this life.
Speaker 8: They helped me prepare for what I was going to
Speaker 8: be going through. Why do we come here to this
Speaker 8: difficult planet with it where there's so many difficulties. The
Speaker 8: reason is because we start out very simply. We're simple
Speaker 8: souls when we're first created with no experience, and we
Speaker 8: need to come to a place like Earth so we
Speaker 8: can gain experience and wisdom, and doing so, we're able
Speaker 8: to gain education and understanding. And by going through something
Speaker 8: difficult and witnessing all these negative things that we see
Speaker 8: on Earth, it grows us spiritually and helps us to
Speaker 8: understand that murder is bad and love is good, hatred
Speaker 8: is bad, and kindness is good. You know. It helps
Speaker 8: us to identify what's good and what's bad because we
Speaker 8: can see it and we have that experience that then
Speaker 8: helps us to grow and understand at a deeper level.
Speaker 8: And without the experience like we get on Earth, we
Speaker 8: couldn't really understand it so easily. Our souls are like
Speaker 8: eternal entities. We exist in like a timeless state, and
Speaker 8: to go through life, which I know feels very long,
Speaker 8: but from a spiritual perspective, it's very short. It's kind
Speaker 8: of like ripping off a band aid really fast. We
Speaker 8: can get the difficult parts of our existence over with
Speaker 8: very quickly, and then we can go on to enjoy
Speaker 8: what's in store for us. If we start to make
Speaker 8: better choices of love, kindness, compassion, honesty, then we're going
Speaker 8: to get the benefits of those choices and we'll experience
Speaker 8: a much better planet. And so it's kind of up
Speaker 8: to each of us to choose more positive things and
Speaker 8: we can help build a better planet for ourselves and
Speaker 8: for others. To me, life is like a kindergarten for souls,
Speaker 8: or a preschool or a boot camp. It's like an
Speaker 8: education for souls, and by coming here we learn a lot.
Speaker 8: We learn very quickly to be good to others and
Speaker 8: not to hurt others, and to me, that's the purpose
Speaker 8: of this life is to educate us and to help
Speaker 8: us to become higher level, happier souls in the end.
Speaker 8: I see life kind of like if you see a
Speaker 8: person go to the gym to lifting heavy weights, it's
Speaker 8: not because they're a bad person. It's because they want
Speaker 8: to get really strong and they want to grow their
Speaker 8: muscles the most well. I see it as the same
Speaker 8: way for people in life. Those that are going through
Speaker 8: really difficult experiences, they're going to get the most spiritual
Speaker 8: growth out of their experiences. Yeah, it's difficult, but they're
Speaker 8: going to gain the most muscles. I know it's difficult
Speaker 8: and frustrating to see good people go through bad things,
Speaker 8: but there's a flip side to that where they're going
Speaker 8: to get a lot of spiritual benefit and someday they're
Speaker 8: going to appreciate those struggles because it has allowed them
Speaker 8: spiritually to grow in a way that people with easier
Speaker 8: lives and be able to grow. A lot of people
Speaker 8: are only focused on what they can do for themselves
Speaker 8: or how much money that they can get. But I'm
Speaker 8: thinking more about how can I grow myself spiritually and
Speaker 8: so I guess my whole worldview and my approach to
Speaker 8: life is now a little bit different. I'm more focused
Speaker 8: on just trying to live a good life, just trying
Speaker 8: to be a good person, and I guess less focused
Speaker 8: on material stuff.
Speaker 4: That's some really good advice from a man who had
Speaker 4: this experience when he was six years old. Wow. After
Speaker 4: the break, you'll hear one more story from a paramedic
Speaker 4: who had his near death experience.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 4: and this is life is a stage four gentlemen telling
Speaker 4: their near death experiences. And you may wonder why near
Speaker 4: death experiences are so different for different people. Well, currently
Speaker 4: there's over eight billion people on planet Earth and if
Speaker 4: you were to ask any one of them what life
Speaker 4: is like, each one of us would tell a different version.
Speaker 4: I think it's an intelligent universe and there's different experiences
Speaker 4: that we have. Some say that there's a silver cord
Speaker 4: that ties us between this life and the next, and
Speaker 4: when we fully are dead, that chord is broken, and
Speaker 4: near death experiences people come back. So sometimes our beliefs,
Speaker 4: our thoughts, our feelings could be tied in with it.
Speaker 4: Let's now meet Adam Tap nineteen years a paramedic.
Speaker 9: Hi, my name is Adam Tap and I had a
Speaker 9: new death experience for Every twenty eighth twenty eighteen where
Speaker 9: I was electrocuted to debt and I was dead for
Speaker 9: around eleven and a half mins before being resuscitated. And
Speaker 9: this is my story. I've been in paramedic for twenty
Speaker 9: years now, and I do a lot of woodworking, which
Speaker 9: I find cathartic and emotional release to some extent. And
Speaker 9: I was doing sort of a technique on wood etching
Speaker 9: called the Leechtenberg device, where you take a microwave transformer
Speaker 9: and basically strip every possible safety feature from it and
Speaker 9: hook it up to involve moder and ten both things
Speaker 9: see and it basically turns it into twelve thousand bolts DC,
Speaker 9: and this highly dangerous machine basically atches these interesting petterns.
Speaker 9: I was with a good friend of mine. We had
Speaker 9: had a beer, and we were sitting by my shop
Speaker 9: and we were actually this piece of wood, and conveniently enough,
Speaker 9: he had taken a high bolt of safety course about
Speaker 9: two weeks before, which is profamily convenience for a number
Speaker 9: of different reasons. And I remember I was talking to
Speaker 9: them and I was moving the electrons one by one
Speaker 9: and it just barked into my hand and it was
Speaker 9: just a snap from reality.
Speaker 5: It was almost overwhelming.
Speaker 9: It was like this intense level of absolute pain, like
Speaker 9: every single cell in my body was being pulled into pieces,
Speaker 9: and it was overwhelming to a point. Why didn't understand
Speaker 9: all what's happened? It was almost as if everything got
Speaker 9: shut down. Everything in my vision was in these vertical cylinders,
Speaker 9: this iridescent green that went up and down forever. I
Speaker 9: remember trying to focus a thought amongst the energy, and
Speaker 9: I think it was like I'd being electrocuted. And then
Speaker 9: I think I thought I'm falling, and I felt like
Speaker 9: I was falling for ages. And then it was just
Speaker 9: like waking up from a nap someplace that I'd always been.
Speaker 9: It was this perfect in key blackness. It was almost
Speaker 9: like deep space where it was like there's lights in
Speaker 9: ad distance, like these twinkling stars to something extent, but
Speaker 9: it was just this perfect blackness. It was like I
Speaker 9: was seeing spherically from a single point outwards, like I
Speaker 9: had just become a single point of awareness. And I
Speaker 9: wasn't at him, I wasn't dead, I wasn't anything. I
Speaker 9: was just perfect, like absolute contentment, and I was just
Speaker 9: in this space. It was just simply existing and awareness.
Speaker 9: And then I felt sort of this frequency start washing
Speaker 9: over me, and it was like what more. It was
Speaker 9: like this fractal patterns and it was like gasoline on water,
Speaker 9: this rainbow effect that this aridescent to some extent, and
Speaker 9: it was just thoughts and cheerlings and emotions, and I
Speaker 9: felt myself sort of being holding to peasants and deposited
Speaker 9: into everything. It was like basically becoming fabric of the universe.
Speaker 9: And it was absolutely perfect, like there was no fear
Speaker 9: and it was nothing. This was just the natural progression
Speaker 9: of what every single one of us is going to do.
Speaker 9: Just back to the source, back to this into consciousness
Speaker 9: or hypid complexity. All of a sudden, I started being
Speaker 9: electrocuted again. And at the time I didn't understand what
Speaker 9: was happening, but in hindsight, it was me being defabriilited.
Speaker 5: That was defribrilitied twice.
Speaker 9: I was in a ventricle fimbrillation arhythmia, which is basically
Speaker 9: the heart spas I mean, And so I was defibrillated
Speaker 9: and the tribrillation takes a bunch live seconds, but this
Speaker 9: was sort of like minutes, if I could even say that,
Speaker 9: of being electrocuted again.
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden it stopped.
Speaker 9: And now I'm aware that I had him that I'm dead,
Speaker 9: I should electrocute it. And now I'm in this boy,
Speaker 9: I'm just being and it was a really long time,
Speaker 9: and I was just there, maybe coming to terms with
Speaker 9: who in what I was and myself and my place
Speaker 9: in the universe. And then I started being electrocuted again,
Speaker 9: which again was the second fibrillation, and I remember myself
Speaker 9: being pulled perhaps out for some variation of that, and
Speaker 9: then I say, maybe at one point acknowledged the smell
Speaker 9: of bird flash, which would have been my hands. My
Speaker 9: finger was burned off third degree burns all over in
Speaker 9: his hand, and I was in a coma for eight hours,
Speaker 9: which was fine for me, but problematic for everyone else
Speaker 9: who thought I was brave that And you know, I
Speaker 9: remember waking up in the ICU and I was innovated
Speaker 9: to into my lounges and I had it in our
Speaker 9: auxious and Engle driller to my shoulderbone. Like my first
Speaker 9: thought was how long has it been? I remember like
Speaker 9: sort of being able to write something down by Andrael
Speaker 9: bandage and like eight hours.
Speaker 5: Or something, and it blew my mind.
Speaker 9: Like if someone had told me it had been five
Speaker 9: years or a decade, I would have been completely on
Speaker 9: point with that. But what was unique about the experience
Speaker 9: since after I was excavated and hugs.
Speaker 5: For everyone and whatnot.
Speaker 9: I remember like looking at myself and I could smell
Speaker 9: myself and not body odor in the sense of need
Speaker 9: to put yodoran on, but my natural pheromoneal smell that
Speaker 9: we all have because the primates, we just go to
Speaker 9: great lengths to hide it. But I was so hyper
Speaker 9: aware of my smell and the texture of my skin,
Speaker 9: and I felt so deeply that I just gote downgraded
Speaker 9: from this crazy supercomputer to this commado or two shows
Speaker 9: and this pixelated screen, and that stuck with me for
Speaker 9: a long time, Like it was months of just feeling
Speaker 9: this way, and I remember saying to my wife, like,
Speaker 9: this isn't real, but this isn't real. And eventually it
Speaker 9: just came back to the acceptance of being my body,
Speaker 9: of being in this space. But you know, I was
Speaker 9: left with this overwhelming sense that this is just the stage.
Speaker 9: This is simply an evolution of consciousness. This is simply
Speaker 9: transient why we exist right now. And there wasn't any
Speaker 9: antimorship figures or people on roads. It was just simply
Speaker 9: going back to the source of everything, which is this
Speaker 9: interesting consciousness that permeates everything. Simply the space between subatomic
Speaker 9: articles is consciousness. I didn't want to read anything about
Speaker 9: other people's near death experiences, but it wanted to change
Speaker 9: my interpretation of lot it happened to me, But you know,
Speaker 9: I had the traditional phonophobia where I was right sine
Speaker 9: glasses at all times a day, like it was even
Speaker 9: the light inside of house, which almost be blinded to me.
Speaker 9: And anotherly interesting thing too, is that the burns on
Speaker 9: my pants actually accelerated healing. I was told I would
Speaker 9: need skin brabs, and in a very short period of
Speaker 9: time everything wevascularized and started healing, which was interesting that
Speaker 9: I can't necessarily state that that's a consistency amongst people.
Speaker 9: But it was very much this process of getting used
Speaker 9: to what I have to call the munty suit now,
Speaker 9: because it very much is. It's very it's a limitating
Speaker 9: filter in which I currently existed at the limitations of
Speaker 9: my biology. But at the same time it's so deeply
Speaker 9: beautiful that I can simply just experience emotions and games.
Speaker 9: The one thing that I took from all of this
Speaker 9: was in that place when I was devoid of a body,
Speaker 9: I was very, very highly aware of the amount of anxiety,
Speaker 9: the amount of weird emotions that rich Sish through us
Speaker 9: on any specific moment, the biological mechanisms, the hormones that
Speaker 9: make us do things. It was a state of absolute
Speaker 9: tread cluinality. Again, it was one of those things when
Speaker 9: I was back in my body, just feeling these emotions
Speaker 9: come up and not necessarily knowing what the dealish them,
Speaker 9: because it seemed that I just completely disconnected from everything
Speaker 9: that is this biological mechanism data, and now it's back
Speaker 9: into this foold. I started doing psychedelics subsequently afterwards, and
Speaker 9: I feel that the very nature of death experiences is
Speaker 9: so integrally related to these psychonlic compounds and die metical
Speaker 9: trip to meaning in our bodies, and our brain is
Speaker 9: responsible for dreaming and depth. And I feel that the
Speaker 9: experience itself has made me so deeply spiritual, you know.
Speaker 9: I think I was superficially spiritual before, in a sense
Speaker 9: that we just privily use the word, you know, without
Speaker 9: necessarily understanding the deeper meaning behind it.
Speaker 5: But it's almost like experiencing.
Speaker 9: Itching consciousness and becoming part of it and then coming
Speaker 9: back to this and still having that awareness, the awareness
Speaker 9: that we're just part of something that is so profoundly complicated,
Speaker 9: so infinitely perfect. So I think something to take away
Speaker 9: from all of this, or something that I noticed has
Speaker 9: changed in being my personality is my ability to simply
Speaker 9: appreciate a moment as opposed to applying reading to everything
Speaker 9: or plans or language, is and simply able to be
Speaker 9: in a space and appreciate what's going on. I noticed
Speaker 9: that with my daughter in law, just simply being in
Speaker 9: a space and enjoining every moment of it. One thing
Speaker 9: I also want to mention in this is the similarities
Speaker 9: to psychedelic experiences and being dead. You know, one could
Speaker 9: artically suggest that my death experience was just an indogenou
Speaker 9: steinmfil trip to mean release, which is commonly referred to
Speaker 9: as n NDMT and such court psycholic experiences have been death.
Speaker 9: They've been versions of this. And I think that at
Speaker 9: the end of the day, the one thing that I
Speaker 9: would say to someone if they asked me what I
Speaker 9: took from this or the advice associated with it, is
Speaker 9: that death is quite possibly the most natural thing that happens.
Speaker 9: Being dead was easy, it was perfect, It was beautiful.
Speaker 9: You know, It's being alive it's difficult and hard. I
Speaker 9: think that death in itself is just simply a transition.
Speaker 9: It's becoming the fabric of the universe. It's being perfect.
Speaker 9: Wanted could argue that we're all perfect already, but we
Speaker 9: just refuse to acknowledge that. And being death was just
Speaker 9: absolute perfection. And I think that the common fear that
Speaker 9: we all have is our mortality, and it's understandable, it's
Speaker 9: genetically motivated. You know, if we didn't have a share
Speaker 9: of death, we won't be a species that we are today.
Speaker 9: But again, death just was simply perfection. It was become
Speaker 9: by everything and it was perfect. And I think that
Speaker 9: it's made me spiritual innocence now. I think before I
Speaker 9: was spiritual but superficially, whereas now it seems that spirituality
Speaker 9: has taken on a very significant place in me where
Speaker 9: I viscerally know what we all are and where we're
Speaker 9: all going. And that does onlyvate a lot of the
Speaker 9: share that we all exist with on a day to
Speaker 9: day basis. And yeah, I guess to summarize everything was
Speaker 9: being dead was a state of absolute perfection.
Speaker 4: Being dead the state of absolute perfection.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: Adam is not only a paramedic, but after this experience,
Speaker 4: he started his own podcast called Tapped Into psychedelics. If
Speaker 4: you're a fan of near death experiences like I am,
Speaker 4: I can recommend some great YouTube channels Life and Beyond
Speaker 4: the Other Side ND, Life After Life ND and visit
Speaker 4: our friends at ians dot org you can read near
Speaker 4: death experiences. They also have a yearly end of summer
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