1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM paranormal 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for another episode of Shades 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host are thoughts 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: and opinions only and do not necessarily reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: Coast to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: sponsors and associates. You are encouraged to do the proper 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: amount of research yourself, depending on the subject matter and 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: your needs. 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: Hi. 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 4: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 4: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 4: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlifeilliam Shakespeare said 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: in his play As You Like It, all the world's 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: a stage, and all the men and women merely players. 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 4: They have their exits and their entrances, and one man 19 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 4: in his lifetime plays many parts. Today we're going to 20 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: be talking about our life being the stage for our souls. 21 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 4: I have four very different stories of four men who 22 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 4: each had a near death experience. Let's start with Andy, 23 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: who had his experience when he was just a teenager 24 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: but remembers it vividly now at the age of eighty four. 25 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 5: My name is Andy Petro, eighty four. It was a 26 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 5: few days before graduation from high school. We went as 27 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 5: a class to a lake outside of Detroit. I'm swimming 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 5: out to the raft to where my friends are, and 29 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 5: about halfway there, I get really bad cramps and I 30 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 5: can't kick anymore, and then I'm starting to I go 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 5: down one time. I'm struggling to get up to the top. 32 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 5: I reach the top, I look over. I can see 33 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: my friends on the platform. I'm waving to them, but 34 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 5: I can't stay above the water. They're waving back, thinking 35 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 5: I'm playing a game. And then I'm sinking down. From 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 5: that point on, I never came to the surface again. 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 5: As I'm going down deeper and deeper into the lake, 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 5: it's getting really, very very cold. This is June, and 39 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 5: lakes in Michigan in June don't know about summer. And 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: I'm shivering and shaking, and I'm falling deeper and deeper, 41 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, I can feel the weeds 42 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 5: in my feet and now I can't see any more. 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 5: And then finally I hit the bottom of the lake 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 5: and I hit in the sitting position, and I say, oh, 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 5: this is great. Now I can just use my hands 46 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 5: to push me up. And as I'm pushing down, my 47 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 5: hands now get stuck in the mud. And now I'm 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 5: there in terrible pain to death. And then I hear 49 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 5: this voice. Someone's talking to me in my head and 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 5: the voice is, Andy, you have to relax and let 51 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 5: go for just a minute. And I said, no, I can't. 52 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: I need one breath of air, that's all I need. 53 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 5: Then the voice says, to make no, Andy, you have 54 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 5: to relax. You have to stop. You have to let go. 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 5: And then I said to the voice in my head, okay, 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 5: I'll let go, but do you promise to let me 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 5: continue to fight, and the light says yes, okay, we promise, 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 5: and then I let go. And the minute I formed 59 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 5: the word go in my head, I popped out of 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: my body, frozen, cold, shivering, shaking, and in a minute 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 5: what I call a moment of no time, I'm now 62 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 5: in a tunnel and I'm looking around and I'm not cold, 63 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 5: I'm not freezing I'm in a body, but I don't 64 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 5: recognize the body. And I look around and I see down. 65 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: As I'm looking over to the left, I can see 66 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 5: down at the bottom of the lake, there's my body. 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 5: I'll say, well, that's strange because I couldn't see down it. 68 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 5: But I see it, and I look away, and I 69 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 5: was not concerned, and I turned into the other direction 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 5: and I see the tunnel and at the end of 71 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 5: the light, the tunnel is a bright light. It's so bright. 72 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 5: I say to myself, you know, this thing should be 73 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 5: burning my retinas. This is the brightest thing I could 74 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 5: ever imagine. It's like a thousand suns all exploding at 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: the same time. And then I'm drawn. I'm pulled into 76 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 5: the tunnel like by a gentle magnet. And I'm pulled 77 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 5: into the tunnel. And as I'm moving into the tunnel, 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 5: I can feel a breeze on my face. And then 79 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: at the next moment of no time, I'm now in 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 5: a giant sphere, in a ball the size of a 81 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 5: basketball coliseum. I'm hovering in the center of the ball, 82 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 5: and next to me, I can't see it, but I 83 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 5: know it's there is the light, and the light and 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 5: I are talking now with my mouth because I don't 85 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: have a mouth, March. I don't have eyes, I don't 86 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 5: have ears, but I have things that allow me to 87 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 5: communicate and to see and to hear. And as I 88 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 5: look on the inside of the giant ball giant sphere, 89 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 5: are countless, maybe hundreds of thousands of like little TV 90 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: sets or movie screens, and each one has a specific 91 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 5: action that I had taken in my life. As soon 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: as I would focus on one, I would immediately, almost magically, 93 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 5: be there. The difference is every time I relived one 94 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 5: of my life experiences, I relived it in such a 95 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 5: fashion that I knew and understood what everyone was thinking 96 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: and how they were feeling about our interaction. And then 97 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: all of a sudden again and I'm mowing of no time. 98 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 5: I pop out of the sphere and I'm in the 99 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 5: tunnel now and I'm featuring very close to the light, 100 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 5: and the light is in front of me now, and 101 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 5: it's like a giant silhouette. There was no gender to it. 102 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: It was just a way, but it was very loving 103 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 5: and war when it was pulling me. And as I 104 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 5: got close to the light, the light said three things 105 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 5: that I could understand, and the light said to me, Andy, 106 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 5: don't be afraid. Andy, I love you, and Andy, we 107 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 5: love you. And when the light said Andy, we love you, 108 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 5: in back of the light, there were billions of other 109 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 5: lights just like me, holographic pieces of the light, and 110 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: they all said in one because Andy, welcome home. I 111 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 5: can tell you that is the best I've ever felt 112 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 5: as I was in existence. It was so wonderful to behold. 113 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 5: And at that point, when the billions of other pieces 114 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: of the light said Andy, welcome home, I was absorbed 115 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 5: into the light. I didn't go into the light. I 116 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 5: was absorbed into the light. It was like if the 117 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: light was a large glass of water, and if Andy 118 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 5: was a peacefoon of sugar, and you put the sugar 119 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 5: in the water and spin it around, and then look 120 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: at it. Where's Andy? Everywhere? Where's the light? Everywhere? I 121 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 5: became the light. I was not greater than the light. 122 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 5: I was not lesser than the light. I was a 123 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 5: holographic piece of the light. And I was ecstatic. My 124 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 5: whole body right now as I am speaking, is filled 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 5: with chills. I remembered as if it just happened ten 126 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: seconds ago, not sixty five years ago. That feeling has 127 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 5: never left me, and it has been the thing that 128 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 5: has kept me going when I really felt that I 129 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 5: didn't belong coming back. So then the Light says, Andy, 130 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 5: let's go. Do you have any questions for me? And 131 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 5: my answer was no, I don't have any questions why 132 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 5: because when I was absorbed by the light, I knew 133 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 5: everything I did. I knew everything about everything. When I 134 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: was in the light and we went around and to 135 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 5: travel through universes, it seemed like I was there for 136 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 5: maybe years. In Earth time, I was there for about 137 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: ten minutes, because it took ten or fifteen minutes for 138 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 5: somewhere to find my body bring me back up on Sure, 139 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 5: I didn't know any of that that was going on 140 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 5: because I wasn't there. The body was there, but I 141 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 5: was in the light, and I'm having so much fun 142 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 5: in the life. It's funny. And we were talking and laughing, 143 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 5: and we were talking about were viewing my life. We 144 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 5: were laughing at Andy, you spent so much of your 145 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 5: time on all these planets being too serious. Life is 146 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 5: to be enjoyed. That's why you've come. Because in the light, 147 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: there are no highs and loads, there are no fat 148 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 5: and thin there is no light in day. It's all 149 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 5: unconditional low that consumed you and absorbed you. And that 150 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: is the pinnacle of what it feels like to be 151 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: an entity. After that point in time, the light says 152 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 5: to me, Andy, it's time to go back, time to 153 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 5: go back. No, no, no, I said, no, no, no, 154 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 5: I'm not going back. I'm sorry. The answer is no, 155 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 5: And the light says, for the second time, Andy, you're 156 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 5: going back, And I said, uh, excuse me, did you 157 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 5: hear what I said. I'm staying. I'm homeing. Why would 158 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 5: I ever want to go back? And the third time, 159 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 5: the light said to me, and you're going back. When 160 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 5: I heard the k in back, I was stuffed back 161 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 5: into my body, which now was no longer in the 162 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 5: mud at the bottom of the lake, but was laying 163 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 5: on the sand of the beach. And during that entire process, 164 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: from the moment I drowned until the moment I was 165 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 5: still back into my body, I never lost one second 166 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 5: of consciousness. I have no voige, no dark spots. No 167 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 5: I can't remember. I remember everything, every moment, every second 168 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 5: of that time. And now I'm in my body and 169 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: I start to cry. All my classmates are around me, though. 170 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 5: They're so glad that I am alive. I'm not that 171 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 5: happy about it, but they're so glad that I didn't 172 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 5: die on senior Picnic day. And so I look around 173 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 5: and I say, why are you crying any It must 174 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 5: be pain? Yeah, yeah, it must be pain. So I said, well, 175 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 5: tell me what happened. What do you remember? And I said, 176 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: my first, great lie, I don't remember a damn thing. 177 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 5: It's a complete blank. Because I couldn't tell them about 178 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: the light. I didn't even know what was How am 179 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 5: I going to explain that. I was brought up as 180 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 5: a Catholic, I went the confession every week. I was 181 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: very very religious in capital letters person. What I saw 182 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 5: and experiencing the light did not correlate or relate at 183 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 5: all to what I knew and what I was taught 184 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 5: on earth. So okay, that's it. I know that eventually 185 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 5: i'll forget about this. So I started a journey to forget, 186 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: and I couldn't forget. I dream about it every night. 187 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 5: I felt like a stranger in a strange land. I 188 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 5: didn't belong here. I belong in the light. That's what 189 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 5: I can remember. That's where I want to go. That's 190 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 5: where I want to be. Well, it's been over sixty 191 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 5: five years and I'm still here. What are you waiting for? 192 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 5: And that experience is with me twenty four to seven 193 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: all the time. 194 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 6: Now. 195 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 5: I spent those twenty five years searching. I searched all 196 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 5: the major religions. I did meditations, I did all types 197 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 5: of yoga. I did everything I could to try to 198 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 5: see if I could understand it. It wasn't until I 199 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 5: read doctor Muhi's book that I said, ah, that's what 200 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 5: I had. Took me almost thirty years to figure out. 201 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 5: I had a near death experience. But I had it 202 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: so early in time that phrase didn't even exist until 203 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: I read it in the book. At that point in time, 204 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 5: I'm saying, Okay, now I know what it is. It 205 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 5: still took me ten or fifteen years before I spoke 206 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 5: about it first time. I never told anyone for almost 207 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 5: forty years, and then I started talking about it. The 208 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 5: point is that that was such a wonderful, blissful thing, 209 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 5: and the things that I remember from the light telling 210 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 5: me and he remember everything on the planet is an illusion. 211 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: It isn't real. Reality is in the light when you're 212 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 5: on Earth. It's like being in a Broadway play and 213 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 5: there are eight billion actors and everybody doing their part. 214 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 5: But that's not reality. And so as a stranger in 215 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 5: a strange land, I'm saying, that has really been the 216 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 5: most significant thing I could have ever experienced of earth dying, 217 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 5: because there is no death earth dying, going into the 218 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 5: light and coming back, and even through all the years 219 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 5: of trial and struggle and trying to understand, in the 220 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 5: back of my mind, in the back of my memory, 221 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 5: at the back of forever will be my near death experience. 222 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: That was Andy Petro, and he was referencing doctor Moody, 223 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: who first coined the phrase near death experience in his 224 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 4: book Life After Life in nineteen seventy five. We'll be 225 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 4: back after the break with our next near death experience. 226 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 227 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 4: and Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. 228 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere. 229 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 2: There's more Shades of the Afterlife coming right up. 230 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: Did you know that test that could save your life 231 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: from cancer are now available for little or no costs 232 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: thanks to the healthcare law called the Affordable Care Act. 233 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: Let this be the year you get screening tests that 234 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: can detect cancer early when it's most treatable. Don't let 235 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: concerns get in the way. Talk to a doctor or 236 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: other medical professional to learn more about the best cancer 237 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: testing options for you. 238 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 7: The best afterlife information you can get. 239 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: Well, you're alarm. 240 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 7: Shades of the Afterlife with Sander Champlain. 241 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain, 242 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: and we are exploring life is a stage, this journey 243 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: through near death experiences. Next we'll hear from Rich Kelly, 244 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 4: who had a very different near death experience, also being 245 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: a teenager, also while swimming. He comes back with a 246 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: very profound feeling about the nature of reality. 247 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: I died when I was fifteen years old. I drown 248 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: out in the ocean. I've got this wave, wall of 249 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: water coming down over the top of my head and 250 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: falling in front of me. It hadn't broken yet, so 251 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: it didn't make any noise. I didn't have a chance 252 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: to catch a breath of air, hold my breath, nothing. 253 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: Just suddenly found myself underwater, opened my eyes and saw 254 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: nothing but and swirling everywhere. It was as if things 255 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: went into slow motion and literally relived my life at 256 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: that point, only fifteen years of it, but relived the 257 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: whole thing. That's how much time slowed down. I went 258 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: down for the last time, and I knew it was 259 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: I just didn't have the energy. There was no energy 260 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: left in me to fight it. And at that point, 261 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: this incredible, profound sense of peace overcame me somehow. I 262 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: had this sense that I was going to be okay, 263 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: no harm was going to come to me, distinctly, a 264 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: feeling that I was loved, which begged the question by 265 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: whom at that point in my life, I was a 266 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: profound dignostic. I just couldn't tell you if there was 267 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: a God or not. I, as far as I was concerned, 268 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: I didn't have enough information. So it wasn't like I 269 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: carried with me this belief in God, which makes it 270 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: all the more interesting that I had this sense of 271 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: profound peace and the feeling of being loved, because it 272 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: begged the question by whom I knew I was leaving 273 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: the earth. And just as if I were to say 274 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: to you, picture yourself on a lake, you would draw 275 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: a mental image in your mind of being on a lake. 276 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: You're not physically there, you don't see it, but we 277 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: use words and then we draw pictures in our minds. Well, 278 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: just like that, I pictured myself leaving the Earth, and 279 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 3: I pictured myself out in space looking at the Earth 280 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: from not a considerable distance, but you know, there's the 281 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: Earth right in front of me. And what was so 282 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: strange about looking at the Earth like that was that 283 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: at that moment, you could have asked me any given 284 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: moment in my life, because I just relived it. But 285 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: you could have asked me any given moment in any 286 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: person's life on that planet, and I could have told you. 287 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: All of that information was right there, it was available. 288 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 3: And what kept going through my mind at this point was, oh, 289 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: of course I was, if you will, remembering what I 290 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: had forgotten very intentionally in order to be on this planet, 291 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 3: which is what we all do. In point of fact, 292 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: I don't think that this planet exists. It's a figment 293 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: of our imagination, and we have a very good imagination. 294 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 3: We're incredibly creative beings. The analogy I make it because 295 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 3: I think it works so well. It's like when you're 296 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: sitting in a chair reading a book that's a really 297 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 3: good book that you're really involved in. Somebody could walk 298 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: in the room and talk to you, and you don't 299 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 3: know they're there. Your focus of attention is on the 300 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: story in the book, and you can get so preoccupied 301 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: with that you lose track of everything around you. You 302 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: just tune all that out and you focus on one thing. Similarly, 303 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 3: you know everything about what your life's going to be 304 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: like here from beginning to end. You knew it before 305 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: where you got here, and you will know it again 306 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: when you leave here. But while you're here, you're focused 307 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: on it, and you're focused on each given moment in it, 308 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: And when you leave here, it all comes rushing back 309 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: and you say, of course, yes that. And it's also simple, 310 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: what is your life like when you're not here? At 311 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: that moment, I no longer had any awareness of any 312 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: of my senses. I didn't have a body, I didn't 313 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: see anything. I could picture the Earth in my mind, 314 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: but I didn't see the earth. I didn't see blackness. 315 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: I saw nothing. There was no sight, there was no touch, 316 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: there was no taste, there was no smell, there was 317 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 3: no feel. Didn't have any of those senses at all, 318 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: and yet my mind was functioning. So in my mind 319 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: I pictured turning away from the Earth and going out 320 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: into space. That's the way I pictured it in my mind, 321 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 3: because all of a sudden, all your senses are cut 322 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: off and you feel very disoriented. And at this point, 323 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: the white light in the tunnel plays in. I sensed 324 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: that I was loved. I sensed that I would be fine. 325 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: Where is that coming from? And how do I go 326 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: to that? Well, initially, that's a very small thing, if 327 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 3: you will, and yet as you try to turn your 328 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: focus on it, and I don't mean your visual focus, 329 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 3: but you focus your mind on that and wanting to 330 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: go there, it becomes bigger. And so it's as if 331 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: it is a little ray of light off in the 332 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: distance with dark all around it, which could easily be 333 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: described as a tunnel. It somehow seems distant, although it 334 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: seems to be getting closer, because with all your other 335 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: input cut off, you focus on it more. It's the 336 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: only thing you have left to focus upon. And so 337 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: you move through the tunnel and towards the light. And 338 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: I won't say that you're greeted there by some people 339 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: who walk up and how you doing, fred and shake 340 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: your hand. No, there's no bodies there. There can be. 341 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: You can picture them that way You pictured them the air, 342 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: and you can picture them there if you want to. 343 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: This gets really confusing because we are creating our reality 344 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: here on this planet, every last bit of it. We're 345 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: creating it in our mind, and science is starting to 346 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 3: bear this out. If you've seen the movie What the Bleep, 347 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: the quantum physicists will tell you look at water and 348 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 3: you change its molecular structure, You're creating your reality here. 349 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: If I was going to try to describe what I 350 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: believe we are at our source, what we are like. 351 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 3: We are extremely creative beings. We can sit and do 352 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: absolutely nothing and be as little as possible if we 353 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: want to, but it just doesn't seem to be in 354 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 3: our nature. We like to create things. And if you 355 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: made the analogy that your life was like a movie 356 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: that you made where you picked all of the characters 357 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 3: and the actors to play in your movie, and you 358 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: wrote the script out and said, this is what I 359 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: want to have happen and how I want it to be, 360 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: that would be a very good analogy. And that's where 361 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: it gets really interesting because from this perspective, we're very 362 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 3: much used to the idea of looking at things and 363 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 3: judging things. I like that, I don't like that, and 364 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: we of course assume that there is a universal good 365 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: and bad out there. I agree there's a universal good 366 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 3: and bad out there. But here's the strange twist to 367 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: it is that the universal part of it is the 368 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: fact that good is what you like and bad is 369 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: what you don't like, and it's different for everybody. And 370 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: that's where life gets really strange because people then say, well, 371 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: but there's no universal good or evil. No, there isn't. 372 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: Well what about good and bad? There aren't any. That 373 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: sounds kind of harsh and really twisted from what most 374 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: people think, because we're all pretty much brought up to 375 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 3: believe that there are good things and bad things in life. Well, 376 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: that's true from any given perspective, but not universally. If 377 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: this is all a stage play and none of it's real, 378 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: none of it truly exists except in our minds, and 379 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: we are all co authoring each other's plays as well 380 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: as our own, and getting together and putting this play together, 381 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: then what happens here is all an experiment in what 382 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: it's like to focus on a given set of circumstances 383 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: of our own making. And it's okay, doesn't make any 384 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: difference how it turns out, doesn't make any difference what 385 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 3: you do. You came here to experience those things. Well. 386 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: It has the distinct disadvantage that you don't get to 387 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 3: blame everything that's gone wrong in your life on God 388 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: or the devil, or who whoever it is you want 389 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: to try to put in that little slot, if in 390 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 3: point of fact, you're the author of it all and 391 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 3: that you agreed to it all long before you came here. 392 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: It has the distinct advantage that you can never be 393 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: a victim unless you chose to be one, and even 394 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: then you aren't truly a victim. You're experiencing what it 395 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: feels like to be one, but you aren't. This has 396 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: got a real distinct advantage to it, if you think 397 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: about it, because you have nothing to fear, which is 398 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 3: a lot better way to live your life than running 399 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: around scared all the time. That you could become a victim. 400 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: There are things out there that could happen to you 401 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: that are beyond your control. The first place, what I 402 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: experience tells me that that's not the case. But just 403 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: as a practical matter, here we both hope that that's 404 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 3: not the case, because if it is, you could be 405 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: a victim. And in my world, I can't be Which 406 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: world did you rather live in? As a practical matter, 407 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 3: I'd rather live in my world. Now. These things were 408 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: obvious to me when I was there. No, I didn't 409 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: get mad at the pearly gates. No I wasn't in heaven. 410 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: No I wasn't in hell. No I wasn't in purgatory. 411 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: I was in a wonderful place. I felt completely loved. 412 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: I was in touch with a vast array of other beings. 413 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: I was part of it, they were part of me. 414 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: We're all one. If I was going to try to 415 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 3: address the question of whether or not there is a God, 416 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: I would say to you that if there is a god, 417 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: first off, what you're doing in your playtime on this playground, 418 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: he doesn't care about anymore than your mom worries about 419 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 3: what it is you're doing on a playground. If you're 420 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: simply out there playing a game of ball and nobody's 421 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: getting hurt, and there's no problems. She didn't care about 422 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: every little detail, And it doesn't make any difference whether 423 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 3: you hit the ball directly into center field or off 424 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 3: in the left field, doesn't matter. And so I'm on 425 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 3: the other side, and I'm in this sea of beings, 426 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I felt somebody grab my arm, 427 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 3: which at this point threw me because I didn't have 428 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: an arm anymore. And I just kind of got used 429 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: to the idea that I didn't and I felt my 430 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: body get tug which I didn't have at least I 431 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: didn't a moment ago. And the very first thing that 432 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 3: I saw right after I felt that was my eyes open, 433 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: looking at the beach and I'm in a wave and 434 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: being pushed towards the beach, and no one's got a 435 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: hold of me, and I started swimming, and when I 436 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 3: got to the beach, I was just totally spent, laid 437 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: there in a heap for I don't know how long, 438 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 3: probably fifteen twenty minutes. And I've had many people ask me, so, 439 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 3: who pulled you out? I don't know. Within me, it 440 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: doesn't matter, It makes no difference. It was my time 441 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: to go, and then no, it isn't your time to go, 442 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: it's your time to go back. Okay, fine, I can 443 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 3: tell you I've never looked at life the same again. 444 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 4: Quite profound words. You'll be interested to know that. Rich 445 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: Kelly went on to becoming an actor and a psychic 446 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 4: in his career. We'll go to the break and we'll 447 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 4: be back with two more near death experiences. 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We have 466 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: Aaron Green a forty eight year old man, but he 467 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 4: tells the story of what happened when he was a 468 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 4: six year old boy. Now, from the hundreds of people 469 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: that I've spoken to who have had near death experiences, 470 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 4: I would say ninety nine percent of them remember them 471 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 4: as if they were just yesterday or just ten minutes ago. 472 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 4: Aaron is no different. In fact, the way he tells 473 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 4: the story sounds like a six year old boy. Here's 474 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: Aaron Green. 475 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 8: One afternoon, I was playing with some friends in a 476 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 8: neighbor's backyard and I developed a breathing problem, and no 477 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 8: matter what I did, I couldn't get a good breath. 478 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 8: I just couldn't breathe. Right as I was walking away 479 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 8: from my friend, I was trying to go home to 480 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 8: try to get help because I couldn't breathe. I'm not 481 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 8: sure what happened, but my consciousness, or my soul, whatever 482 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 8: it is that I really am, it came out of 483 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 8: my body and I watched as my body fell to 484 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 8: the ground, and I was just kind of floating there, 485 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 8: looking at my body on the ground and looking at 486 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 8: my friends. Very quickly, I had a life review, like 487 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 8: my life flashed in front of me complete detail those 488 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 8: six years as a kid. And what really stood out 489 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 8: was that not only did I re experience everything I 490 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 8: had been through and relived my life, but I could 491 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 8: like literally feel my parents' emotions and feelings and what 492 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 8: they had been through dealing with me. It wasn't just 493 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 8: that I relived my life, but I like experienced the 494 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 8: life of the people I had been in contact with. 495 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 8: When that was over, I was still just floating there 496 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 8: and I noticed a light in the distance, and I 497 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 8: knew it was really important, but I didn't understand why 498 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 8: or what it was. I just continued to float there. 499 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 8: As I did, I started to remember things that I 500 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 8: had experienced as a soul. One thing that really stood 501 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 8: out was that I relived an experience of how I 502 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 8: came into being as a soul, kind of like a 503 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 8: newborn soul, and I was inexperienced and ignorant, but otherwise 504 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 8: pretty happy. I was asked if I wanted to see 505 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 8: the face of God, and I agreed, and I was 506 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 8: shown a huge sun like entity, and there was millions 507 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 8: and millions of millions of faces all kind of merged 508 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 8: with God, and each face was a soul kind of 509 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 8: like me. They maintained their own individuality, but they were 510 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 8: also merged with God and part of God. God explained 511 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 8: to me that I was a new soul being created, 512 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 8: and that God had a wonderful existence for all of us, 513 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 8: and that God was loving and kind and compassionate and 514 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 8: honest and caring, gentle, and very kind to me, and 515 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 8: that in order for me to enjoy the experience that 516 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 8: God had in store for me, I needed to also 517 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 8: freely choose those same kind of characteristics that God had. 518 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 8: I needed to freely choose to be loving and kind 519 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 8: and compassionate and honest, and that the God had an 520 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 8: experience prepared for me and for all these other souls, 521 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 8: and that it would help us grow and to become 522 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 8: the kind of souls we need it to be, so 523 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 8: that we could appreciate the kind of existence that God 524 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 8: had in store for us. This was going to be 525 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 8: very very short, It was going to be very difficult, 526 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 8: and when we got through this process, we would be 527 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 8: free to enjoy God's creation and to really enjoy our existence, 528 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 8: and we could get all the bad stuff out of 529 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 8: the way very quickly. I agreed with the plan, and 530 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 8: I was shown during my experience that I chose this 531 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 8: life that I chose this body. I was shown that 532 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 8: I could have picked like anybody out there, and I 533 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 8: picked the parents that I was going to be born into. 534 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 8: I picked the body. I wanted to be really intelligent, 535 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 8: but there was downsides. If I had been really intelligent, 536 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 8: I would have been kind of arrogant and I wouldn't 537 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 8: have been as nice of a person. I wanted to 538 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 8: be like a really good looking person, but I was 539 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 8: shown that if I had been like a really really 540 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 8: good looking person, that would have changed the way I 541 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 8: lived my life and it wouldn't have been as good 542 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 8: for me in my development. So I chose a more 543 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 8: average looking body. And I was shown that a lot 544 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 8: of events in my life they were like planned out 545 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 8: ahead of time, and certain events that were going to 546 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 8: happen to be For example, I got my nose broken 547 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 8: when I was a teenager. I got hit me and 548 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 8: broke my nose, and I was shown like a brief 549 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 8: clip from a previous life. I was shown that I 550 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 8: had gotten in the fight and I had hurt another person. 551 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 8: I had beat them up pretty bad, and it's kind 552 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 8: of like this life, I was going to have my 553 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 8: nose broken as a result of something I had done 554 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 8: in the previous life where I had hurt somebody, and 555 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 8: I saw that I was going to break my shoulder 556 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 8: and dislocate my shoulder. I was going to have some 557 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 8: arm problems. And I saw that some of the relationships 558 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 8: that I would have, like some of that stuff was 559 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 8: planned out ahead of time, and like different souls were 560 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 8: making agreements about the role that they would play in 561 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 8: each other's life, and some of that was planned out. 562 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 8: And I saw souls preparing for the life, and some 563 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 8: of them requested challenges and difficulties, and the reason they 564 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 8: wanted these challenges and difficulties was because it would help 565 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 8: them to grow and to become a stronger, wiser soul, 566 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 8: and so that they would be able to progress further. 567 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 8: I was shown that we're all progressing a little bit, 568 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 8: and the difficulties we face and overcome, they like help 569 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 8: us grow as a soul. And that was all perfectly 570 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 8: clear to me. And I was shown that different souls 571 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 8: are at different levels, and after life is over, some 572 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 8: souls are going to be pretty happy and some souls 573 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 8: are going to be kind of unhappy. I was also 574 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 8: shown that the souls that are unhappy after life. They're 575 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 8: not stuck. They can continue to progress and move on, 576 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 8: like no soul is ever stuck in one state forever. 577 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 8: But all of us have opportunities to grow and to 578 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 8: progress and become better. But eventually all of us are 579 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 8: going to leave this cycle and be done with this place, 580 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 8: and we'll be able to go to a much happier 581 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 8: form of existence. But all this was shown to me 582 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 8: very clearly during my experience. I'd floated there next to 583 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 8: my body for a while, an angel or a being 584 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 8: of light came to me and told me that I 585 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 8: wasn't supposed to leave my body and I needed to 586 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 8: go back. I quickly went back to my body and 587 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 8: I stood up and went home. That was back when 588 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 8: I was six years old, and here I am forty 589 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 8: eight years old, and I'm just trying to explain my 590 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 8: experience to people that I saw for myself that we 591 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 8: all exist independently of these bodies, and we're going to 592 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 8: continue to exist after this life. What was really clear 593 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 8: from my experience was that we need to try to 594 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 8: be good to each other, you know, just try to 595 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 8: be kind and compassionate and loving and helpful to other people. 596 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 8: And if we do that we help ourselves progress spiritually 597 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 8: towards becoming the kind of souls that we're supposed to be, 598 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 8: and we help other people as they do the same. 599 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 8: It was very obvious that we're more than just these 600 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 8: bodies that we all exist as the eternal beings. Like 601 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 8: this physical body restrains us or kind of like holds 602 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 8: us down. And when we're done with these bodies, we're 603 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 8: more free and we're more intelligent and we can do 604 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 8: what we want to a lot more. But this body, 605 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 8: this life, it's a big opportunity to grow spiritually and 606 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 8: to become a better, more evolved soul. And the other 607 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 8: thing that was really important was just, you know, it's 608 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 8: really simple. We just need to be good to other people. 609 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 8: We need to be kind and compassionate and honest and 610 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 8: caring and try to help other people if we can. 611 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 8: And that is really important that we just try to 612 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 8: be good to other people. I saw other souls, and 613 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 8: it looked like souls were at different levels, Like some 614 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 8: souls were very simple and some souls were very advanced. 615 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 8: The level of progress that each soul was at was 616 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 8: completely dependent on their own efforts and their own own experiences, 617 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 8: and they needed to grow through their own actions and learning. 618 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 8: There wasn't a shortcut. And God was beautiful and just 619 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 8: extremely loving and kind and very much cared about me 620 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 8: and all of us very much. It was just wonderful 621 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 8: to be with God. With God, there was no hate 622 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 8: or judgment or meanness or anything like that. It was 623 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 8: all positive and good. Had interactions with God and with 624 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 8: other souls and with I guess they were angels and 625 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 8: also guides, you know, Gouids helped the plan this life. 626 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 8: They helped me prepare for what I was going to 627 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 8: be going through. Why do we come here to this 628 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 8: difficult planet with it where there's so many difficulties. The 629 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 8: reason is because we start out very simply. We're simple 630 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 8: souls when we're first created with no experience, and we 631 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 8: need to come to a place like Earth so we 632 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 8: can gain experience and wisdom, and doing so, we're able 633 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 8: to gain education and understanding. And by going through something 634 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 8: difficult and witnessing all these negative things that we see 635 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 8: on Earth, it grows us spiritually and helps us to 636 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 8: understand that murder is bad and love is good, hatred 637 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 8: is bad, and kindness is good. You know. It helps 638 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 8: us to identify what's good and what's bad because we 639 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 8: can see it and we have that experience that then 640 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 8: helps us to grow and understand at a deeper level. 641 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 8: And without the experience like we get on Earth, we 642 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 8: couldn't really understand it so easily. Our souls are like 643 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 8: eternal entities. We exist in like a timeless state, and 644 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 8: to go through life, which I know feels very long, 645 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 8: but from a spiritual perspective, it's very short. It's kind 646 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 8: of like ripping off a band aid really fast. We 647 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 8: can get the difficult parts of our existence over with 648 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 8: very quickly, and then we can go on to enjoy 649 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 8: what's in store for us. If we start to make 650 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 8: better choices of love, kindness, compassion, honesty, then we're going 651 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 8: to get the benefits of those choices and we'll experience 652 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 8: a much better planet. And so it's kind of up 653 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 8: to each of us to choose more positive things and 654 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 8: we can help build a better planet for ourselves and 655 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 8: for others. To me, life is like a kindergarten for souls, 656 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 8: or a preschool or a boot camp. It's like an 657 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 8: education for souls, and by coming here we learn a lot. 658 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 8: We learn very quickly to be good to others and 659 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 8: not to hurt others, and to me, that's the purpose 660 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 8: of this life is to educate us and to help 661 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 8: us to become higher level, happier souls in the end. 662 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 8: I see life kind of like if you see a 663 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 8: person go to the gym to lifting heavy weights, it's 664 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 8: not because they're a bad person. It's because they want 665 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 8: to get really strong and they want to grow their 666 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 8: muscles the most well. I see it as the same 667 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 8: way for people in life. Those that are going through 668 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 8: really difficult experiences, they're going to get the most spiritual 669 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 8: growth out of their experiences. Yeah, it's difficult, but they're 670 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 8: going to gain the most muscles. I know it's difficult 671 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 8: and frustrating to see good people go through bad things, 672 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 8: but there's a flip side to that where they're going 673 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 8: to get a lot of spiritual benefit and someday they're 674 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 8: going to appreciate those struggles because it has allowed them 675 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 8: spiritually to grow in a way that people with easier 676 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 8: lives and be able to grow. A lot of people 677 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 8: are only focused on what they can do for themselves 678 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 8: or how much money that they can get. But I'm 679 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 8: thinking more about how can I grow myself spiritually and 680 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 8: so I guess my whole worldview and my approach to 681 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 8: life is now a little bit different. I'm more focused 682 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 8: on just trying to live a good life, just trying 683 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 8: to be a good person, and I guess less focused 684 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 8: on material stuff. 685 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 4: That's some really good advice from a man who had 686 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 4: this experience when he was six years old. Wow. After 687 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 4: the break, you'll hear one more story from a paramedic 688 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 4: who had his near death experience. 689 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. 690 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 4: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 691 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 4: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. 692 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 6: Don't go anywhere. There's more sh the Afterlife coming right up. 693 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 4: We are happy to announce that our Coast to Coast 694 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 4: AM official YouTube channel has now reached over three hundred 695 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 4: thousand subscribers. You can listen to the first hour of 696 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 4: recent and past shows for free, so head on over 697 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 4: to the Coast to COASTAM dot com website and hit 698 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 4: the YouTube icon at the top of the page. This 699 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 4: is free show audio, so don't wait. Coast to COASTAM 700 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 4: dot com is where you want to be. 701 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 6: Hey everyone, it's the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren 702 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 6: and you're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 703 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 6: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 704 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain 705 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 4: and this is life is a stage four gentlemen telling 706 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 4: their near death experiences. And you may wonder why near 707 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 4: death experiences are so different for different people. Well, currently 708 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 4: there's over eight billion people on planet Earth and if 709 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 4: you were to ask any one of them what life 710 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 4: is like, each one of us would tell a different version. 711 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 4: I think it's an intelligent universe and there's different experiences 712 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 4: that we have. Some say that there's a silver cord 713 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 4: that ties us between this life and the next, and 714 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 4: when we fully are dead, that chord is broken, and 715 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 4: near death experiences people come back. So sometimes our beliefs, 716 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 4: our thoughts, our feelings could be tied in with it. 717 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 4: Let's now meet Adam Tap nineteen years a paramedic. 718 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 9: Hi, my name is Adam Tap and I had a 719 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 9: new death experience for Every twenty eighth twenty eighteen where 720 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 9: I was electrocuted to debt and I was dead for 721 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 9: around eleven and a half mins before being resuscitated. And 722 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 9: this is my story. I've been in paramedic for twenty 723 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 9: years now, and I do a lot of woodworking, which 724 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 9: I find cathartic and emotional release to some extent. And 725 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 9: I was doing sort of a technique on wood etching 726 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 9: called the Leechtenberg device, where you take a microwave transformer 727 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 9: and basically strip every possible safety feature from it and 728 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 9: hook it up to involve moder and ten both things 729 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 9: see and it basically turns it into twelve thousand bolts DC, 730 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 9: and this highly dangerous machine basically atches these interesting petterns. 731 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 9: I was with a good friend of mine. We had 732 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 9: had a beer, and we were sitting by my shop 733 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 9: and we were actually this piece of wood, and conveniently enough, 734 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 9: he had taken a high bolt of safety course about 735 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 9: two weeks before, which is profamily convenience for a number 736 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 9: of different reasons. And I remember I was talking to 737 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 9: them and I was moving the electrons one by one 738 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 9: and it just barked into my hand and it was 739 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 9: just a snap from reality. 740 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 5: It was almost overwhelming. 741 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 9: It was like this intense level of absolute pain, like 742 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 9: every single cell in my body was being pulled into pieces, 743 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 9: and it was overwhelming to a point. Why didn't understand 744 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 9: all what's happened? It was almost as if everything got 745 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 9: shut down. Everything in my vision was in these vertical cylinders, 746 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 9: this iridescent green that went up and down forever. I 747 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 9: remember trying to focus a thought amongst the energy, and 748 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 9: I think it was like I'd being electrocuted. And then 749 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 9: I think I thought I'm falling, and I felt like 750 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 9: I was falling for ages. And then it was just 751 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,399 Speaker 9: like waking up from a nap someplace that I'd always been. 752 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 9: It was this perfect in key blackness. It was almost 753 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 9: like deep space where it was like there's lights in 754 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 9: ad distance, like these twinkling stars to something extent, but 755 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 9: it was just this perfect blackness. It was like I 756 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 9: was seeing spherically from a single point outwards, like I 757 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 9: had just become a single point of awareness. And I 758 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 9: wasn't at him, I wasn't dead, I wasn't anything. I 759 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 9: was just perfect, like absolute contentment, and I was just 760 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 9: in this space. It was just simply existing and awareness. 761 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 9: And then I felt sort of this frequency start washing 762 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 9: over me, and it was like what more. It was 763 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,479 Speaker 9: like this fractal patterns and it was like gasoline on water, 764 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 9: this rainbow effect that this aridescent to some extent, and 765 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 9: it was just thoughts and cheerlings and emotions, and I 766 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 9: felt myself sort of being holding to peasants and deposited 767 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 9: into everything. It was like basically becoming fabric of the universe. 768 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 9: And it was absolutely perfect, like there was no fear 769 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 9: and it was nothing. This was just the natural progression 770 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 9: of what every single one of us is going to do. 771 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 9: Just back to the source, back to this into consciousness 772 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 9: or hypid complexity. All of a sudden, I started being 773 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 9: electrocuted again. And at the time I didn't understand what 774 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 9: was happening, but in hindsight, it was me being defabriilited. 775 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 5: That was defribrilitied twice. 776 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 9: I was in a ventricle fimbrillation arhythmia, which is basically 777 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 9: the heart spas I mean, And so I was defibrillated 778 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 9: and the tribrillation takes a bunch live seconds, but this 779 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 9: was sort of like minutes, if I could even say that, 780 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 9: of being electrocuted again. 781 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden it stopped. 782 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,959 Speaker 9: And now I'm aware that I had him that I'm dead, 783 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 9: I should electrocute it. And now I'm in this boy, 784 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 9: I'm just being and it was a really long time, 785 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 9: and I was just there, maybe coming to terms with 786 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 9: who in what I was and myself and my place 787 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 9: in the universe. And then I started being electrocuted again, 788 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 9: which again was the second fibrillation, and I remember myself 789 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 9: being pulled perhaps out for some variation of that, and 790 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 9: then I say, maybe at one point acknowledged the smell 791 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 9: of bird flash, which would have been my hands. My 792 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 9: finger was burned off third degree burns all over in 793 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 9: his hand, and I was in a coma for eight hours, 794 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 9: which was fine for me, but problematic for everyone else 795 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 9: who thought I was brave that And you know, I 796 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 9: remember waking up in the ICU and I was innovated 797 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 9: to into my lounges and I had it in our 798 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 9: auxious and Engle driller to my shoulderbone. Like my first 799 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 9: thought was how long has it been? I remember like 800 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 9: sort of being able to write something down by Andrael 801 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 9: bandage and like eight hours. 802 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,479 Speaker 5: Or something, and it blew my mind. 803 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 9: Like if someone had told me it had been five 804 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 9: years or a decade, I would have been completely on 805 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 9: point with that. But what was unique about the experience 806 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 9: since after I was excavated and hugs. 807 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 5: For everyone and whatnot. 808 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 9: I remember like looking at myself and I could smell 809 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 9: myself and not body odor in the sense of need 810 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 9: to put yodoran on, but my natural pheromoneal smell that 811 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 9: we all have because the primates, we just go to 812 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 9: great lengths to hide it. But I was so hyper 813 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 9: aware of my smell and the texture of my skin, 814 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 9: and I felt so deeply that I just gote downgraded 815 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 9: from this crazy supercomputer to this commado or two shows 816 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 9: and this pixelated screen, and that stuck with me for 817 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 9: a long time, Like it was months of just feeling 818 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 9: this way, and I remember saying to my wife, like, 819 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 9: this isn't real, but this isn't real. And eventually it 820 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 9: just came back to the acceptance of being my body, 821 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 9: of being in this space. But you know, I was 822 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 9: left with this overwhelming sense that this is just the stage. 823 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 9: This is simply an evolution of consciousness. This is simply 824 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 9: transient why we exist right now. And there wasn't any 825 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 9: antimorship figures or people on roads. It was just simply 826 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 9: going back to the source of everything, which is this 827 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 9: interesting consciousness that permeates everything. Simply the space between subatomic 828 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 9: articles is consciousness. I didn't want to read anything about 829 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 9: other people's near death experiences, but it wanted to change 830 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 9: my interpretation of lot it happened to me, But you know, 831 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 9: I had the traditional phonophobia where I was right sine 832 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 9: glasses at all times a day, like it was even 833 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 9: the light inside of house, which almost be blinded to me. 834 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 9: And anotherly interesting thing too, is that the burns on 835 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 9: my pants actually accelerated healing. I was told I would 836 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 9: need skin brabs, and in a very short period of 837 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 9: time everything wevascularized and started healing, which was interesting that 838 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 9: I can't necessarily state that that's a consistency amongst people. 839 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,720 Speaker 9: But it was very much this process of getting used 840 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 9: to what I have to call the munty suit now, 841 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 9: because it very much is. It's very it's a limitating 842 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 9: filter in which I currently existed at the limitations of 843 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 9: my biology. But at the same time it's so deeply 844 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 9: beautiful that I can simply just experience emotions and games. 845 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 9: The one thing that I took from all of this 846 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 9: was in that place when I was devoid of a body, 847 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 9: I was very, very highly aware of the amount of anxiety, 848 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 9: the amount of weird emotions that rich Sish through us 849 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 9: on any specific moment, the biological mechanisms, the hormones that 850 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 9: make us do things. It was a state of absolute 851 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 9: tread cluinality. Again, it was one of those things when 852 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 9: I was back in my body, just feeling these emotions 853 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 9: come up and not necessarily knowing what the dealish them, 854 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 9: because it seemed that I just completely disconnected from everything 855 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 9: that is this biological mechanism data, and now it's back 856 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 9: into this foold. I started doing psychedelics subsequently afterwards, and 857 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 9: I feel that the very nature of death experiences is 858 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 9: so integrally related to these psychonlic compounds and die metical 859 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 9: trip to meaning in our bodies, and our brain is 860 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 9: responsible for dreaming and depth. And I feel that the 861 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 9: experience itself has made me so deeply spiritual, you know. 862 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 9: I think I was superficially spiritual before, in a sense 863 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 9: that we just privily use the word, you know, without 864 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 9: necessarily understanding the deeper meaning behind it. 865 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 5: But it's almost like experiencing. 866 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 9: Itching consciousness and becoming part of it and then coming 867 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 9: back to this and still having that awareness, the awareness 868 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 9: that we're just part of something that is so profoundly complicated, 869 00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 9: so infinitely perfect. So I think something to take away 870 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 9: from all of this, or something that I noticed has 871 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 9: changed in being my personality is my ability to simply 872 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 9: appreciate a moment as opposed to applying reading to everything 873 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 9: or plans or language, is and simply able to be 874 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 9: in a space and appreciate what's going on. I noticed 875 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 9: that with my daughter in law, just simply being in 876 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 9: a space and enjoining every moment of it. One thing 877 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 9: I also want to mention in this is the similarities 878 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 9: to psychedelic experiences and being dead. You know, one could 879 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 9: artically suggest that my death experience was just an indogenou 880 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 9: steinmfil trip to mean release, which is commonly referred to 881 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 9: as n NDMT and such court psycholic experiences have been death. 882 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 9: They've been versions of this. And I think that at 883 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 9: the end of the day, the one thing that I 884 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 9: would say to someone if they asked me what I 885 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 9: took from this or the advice associated with it, is 886 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 9: that death is quite possibly the most natural thing that happens. 887 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 9: Being dead was easy, it was perfect, It was beautiful. 888 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 9: You know, It's being alive it's difficult and hard. I 889 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 9: think that death in itself is just simply a transition. 890 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 9: It's becoming the fabric of the universe. It's being perfect. 891 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 9: Wanted could argue that we're all perfect already, but we 892 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 9: just refuse to acknowledge that. And being death was just 893 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 9: absolute perfection. And I think that the common fear that 894 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 9: we all have is our mortality, and it's understandable, it's 895 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 9: genetically motivated. You know, if we didn't have a share 896 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 9: of death, we won't be a species that we are today. 897 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 9: But again, death just was simply perfection. It was become 898 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 9: by everything and it was perfect. And I think that 899 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 9: it's made me spiritual innocence now. I think before I 900 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:57,439 Speaker 9: was spiritual but superficially, whereas now it seems that spirituality 901 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,399 Speaker 9: has taken on a very significant place in me where 902 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 9: I viscerally know what we all are and where we're 903 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 9: all going. And that does onlyvate a lot of the 904 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 9: share that we all exist with on a day to 905 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 9: day basis. And yeah, I guess to summarize everything was 906 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,320 Speaker 9: being dead was a state of absolute perfection. 907 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 4: Being dead the state of absolute perfection. 908 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 3: I like that. 909 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 4: Adam is not only a paramedic, but after this experience, 910 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 4: he started his own podcast called Tapped Into psychedelics. If 911 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 4: you're a fan of near death experiences like I am, 912 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 4: I can recommend some great YouTube channels Life and Beyond 913 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 4: the Other Side ND, Life After Life ND and visit 914 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 4: our friends at ians dot org you can read near 915 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 4: death experiences. They also have a yearly end of summer 916 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 4: conference with over one hundred speakers, and also come visit 917 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 4: me we Don't Die dot com. Lots of great things 918 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 4: always going on, including our free Sunday gathering with medium demonstration. 919 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 4: Life is a stage, my friend, what role are you 920 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 4: going to play? I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening 921 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 4: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast 922 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 4: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 923 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: And if you liked this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, 924 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: wait until you hear the next one. 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