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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. That's as I like it out on.

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Speaker 1: Slash Giants for a week four rapid reaction. Mattelenburg here

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Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl champ Howard Cross, the Giants hosting

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers coming away with the twenty one

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Speaker 1: to eighteen win in the rookie Jackson Dart's first career

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Speaker 1: NFL start at quarterback, and Howard, we got to start

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Speaker 1: with how this game started. Giants opening drive on offense,

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart leads the team down the field in a

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Speaker 1: very balanced drive. It felt like that ended up with

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Speaker 1: a fifteen yard rushing touchdown from the rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's the scripted plays of the Giants. We

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Speaker 2: probably put up the first fifteen they did a good

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Speaker 2: job of executing them. They did someone no huddle, which

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Speaker 2: helped out a lot, keeping the Chargers on the field,

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Speaker 2: making sure that they couldn't change personnel, and it really

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Speaker 2: worked out for him as a way did the uptempo stuff,

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Speaker 2: they were able to get more plays off, put the

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Speaker 2: Chargers on their heels a little bit, able to complete

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Speaker 2: it all the way down to the red zone and

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Speaker 2: punch the ball in.

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Speaker 1: Of the nine plays on that opening drive, seven were

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Speaker 1: running plays. We talk about this weekend and week out

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Speaker 1: how important it is to establish the run. But what

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Speaker 1: did you see from the run game?

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Speaker 2: Early in this one, I saw a little person named

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Speaker 2: Scatta but running the ball. I thought it was really

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Speaker 2: amazing when you watch him on the field to see

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Speaker 2: what's actually happening. As the line starts to engage the

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Speaker 2: defensive lineman, they'll be like a pocket or a hole

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Speaker 2: or something. He will hop over the leg of the

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Speaker 2: lineman and step under his arm and then start his

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Speaker 2: leg drop thing. So by the time the defensive linemen

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Speaker 2: are able to see him or get come in contact

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Speaker 2: to him, he's in their waist, already running forward, and

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Speaker 2: then he's able to spind and turn and lean if

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Speaker 2: it's open space, he's even more dangerous. But that is

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Speaker 2: to me how you get those no yard runs. He's

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Speaker 2: changing those into like three yard runs and four yard

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Speaker 2: runs and people can't figure out why. I'm like, he's

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Speaker 2: like literally hopping into the middle of the pile and

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Speaker 2: starting to push with the lineman. It's very funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we see the physicality cam scad but clearly not

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Speaker 1: afraid to take contact there. Talking about the balance though,

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable talked about after the game just how much

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Speaker 1: confidence he has in the rookie quarterback and how tough

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Speaker 1: he saw Jackson Dart. We know he injured his hamstring

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Speaker 1: in the first half, but he did get back out

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Speaker 1: there was still running in the second half, played through,

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Speaker 1: powered through it. When you have a head coach that

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Speaker 1: just believes in you that much as a young player,

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Speaker 1: how much does that help you elevate your game?

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Speaker 2: It means a lot to a player. When someone believes

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Speaker 2: in you mean that you're going to go out and

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Speaker 2: execute the plays. Means that your teammates are looking at

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Speaker 2: you because the coach is talking highly of you and

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Speaker 2: making you feel like you're not just quote unquote player,

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Speaker 2: but in some cases a leader and nothing Dart's going

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Speaker 2: to be in that role of leader because that's what

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks usually did. He was very impressive running the the RPOs.

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Speaker 2: I thought he did a good job of that. When

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Speaker 2: the most fascinating plays he had is that he had

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Speaker 1: Well, in talking about Theo Johnson too, we heard Jackson

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Speaker 1: talking about this after the game, and even Davill talking

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Speaker 1: they were watching film, Hey if we get this look,

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Speaker 2: It's very helpful. But I think, you know, we need

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Speaker 2: to think about what Day Balls doing. Dave Balls known

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Speaker 2: He's had a lot of confidence in him and knows

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Speaker 2: That's why they drafted him. And he's able to communicate

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Speaker 2: out tremendously in the aspect of advancing week to week,

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Speaker 2: you know, game to game. It'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: how he develops, you know, when defense has changed so quickly,

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Speaker 2: and now that people have got a little look at him,

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Speaker 2: some of the things they did last this week will

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Speaker 2: not be the same thing.

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Speaker 3: They'll be available to him next week. How to get

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Speaker 3: in here? If you're lined up here, you got to

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Speaker 3: go over the middle with at the score right, How

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Speaker 3: do we make that happen?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, But does it makes sense of your

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Speaker 1: course another storyline on the offensive side of the ball

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Speaker 1: in the Leak Neighbors went down early on in the

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Speaker 1: and wishing the Leak Neighbors e speedy recovery from that.

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Speaker 1: But the offense aside, I mean the credible performance from

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Speaker 1: You don't get a win like this without the performance

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Speaker 1: that this defense put on two interceptions Drew Phillips gets

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Speaker 1: one in the second half, brings down inside the fourth.

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Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence bat's a ball down, comes away with it.

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Speaker 1: We were very close, Howard, to seeing a thick six

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Speaker 2: It's a good thing when you get turnovers. Turnovers are big.

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Speaker 2: They've made a couple other turnoves that were called back,

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Speaker 2: so you know, they could have had four turnovers in

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Speaker 2: So I think it's really good because the more times

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Speaker 2: if they keep getting the ball, something's going to break.

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Speaker 2: Something good is going to happen. And they got.

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Speaker 1: Three touchdowns and they you know, unfortunately some of those

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Speaker 1: And you know, credit to Jude Mcatamney coming in for

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Speaker 1: an injury. He didn't return. And yes, losing your left

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, they didn't just lose All. They've lost

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Speaker 2: they've kind of played like the bingo with the offensive line,

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Speaker 3: Years and years.

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Speaker 2: And now you can see how it affects like good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I've always said, when you when you have that kind

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Speaker 2: who's your quarterback, as great as Herbert is. You see

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Speaker 3: Thibodeaux had a great day.

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Speaker 2: You talked about Dexter, he was having even Carter got

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Speaker 2: Everybody who rotated them was putting pressure on them. That's

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Speaker 2: what that's what you want to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was eighty eighty five degrees, bright, sunny day

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a lot of hands on the waist,

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Speaker 2: which I thought was pretty good, and that that that's

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Speaker 2: the users to indicated. Everybody's got their hands in the ways.

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Speaker 2: Even late in the game, guys was still ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Dexter caught a lot of reps today with a lot

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Speaker 2: more in hands. Is kind of getting themselves back and

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Speaker 2: the next series. Thibodeau, of course, is looking good. Burns

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Speaker 2: and Carters kind of coming into his own. He did

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Speaker 2: make some good tackles in the open field too. If

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Speaker 1: But if you're wondering about a long term financial player,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dual Carter, it was fourced down. The Chargers were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great to see the Giants getting a win.

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Speaker 2: Now you're kind of starting to establish your run game.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if the Giants can grow and build off

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