WEBVTT - Ep. 9: It Puts the Lotion on the Swimbait 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.560 So fo sixty bucks for a more um. As Brian 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:07.720 put it in a follow up text, that you gotta 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:10.799 rub like a baseball glow. You gotta put that over 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.800 the fish and you're gonna just keep palm on him. Untillas, 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.599 including one big as red snapper on what, from what 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.360 I could tell, looks to be a dropper loop rig 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.959 baited with green glow in the dark, bushy figurines. Anybody 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.240 can put stupid music to fly tying videos, and anybody 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:36.480 can do that. Good morning, degenerate anglers, Welcome to Bent 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.920 the Fishing Podcast, located closest to the food court entrance, 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.959 right between Aero Pastel and the piercing pagoda. I'm Joe Surmeli, 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.440 Miles Nulti, uh and uh. I think we're about to 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.440 drop our second Kevin Smith movie reference in less than 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.120 ten episodes, which which really tells you all you need 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:57.800 to know about this show, you dumb bastard. It's not 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:04.200 a schooner, it's a sailboat. Square stupid a man. I 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.880 can almost smell the c K one wafting from the Macy's. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:11.320 You know, we look, we all grow up though, right 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.800 and um you know nowadays it's not the smell of whippets. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.440 It gets me feeling alive. It's the waff of Black 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.400 Rifle coffee brewing in a kitchen with a fridge on 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.080 its last legs. That's now, you know my problem, not 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.160 my parents problem anymore. That is such a sweet smell 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.160 about that. I mean the coffee, not the burnout fan 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.440 in Joe's fridge. And it's one that we get to 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.440 enjoy daily because bent is presented by our good buds 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.000 at Black Rifle Coffee Company. If you like quality coffee 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.880 and you want to hear more of us, head over 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.440 to Black Rifle Coffee dot com slash meat Eater and 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:51.520 uh maybe get adventurous. Give their extra dark roast murdered 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.760 out just like my truck a shot. It wakes me up, 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:59.840 even when my kids start screaming at four am. I've 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.480 actually got some murdered out and I truly have been enjoying. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.400 It's very dark and very bold. But listen, whatever you purchase, 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.880 be sure to enter the promo code meat Eater to 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.679 get off your entire order. You know, we kicked this 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.440 off with a mall rats reference. Kudos to us, and 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.239 you got me thinking about all the time that I 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.840 wasted wandering around malls and trying to hit on girls 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.360 and getting kicked out for skateboarding, and uh, it dawns 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.040 on me that I've never seen a mall with a 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.959 tackle shop in it. You're right, I just I'll just 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.160 add you got kicked out for skateboarding. I got kicked 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.040 out once for stealing giant Easter eggs from the Easter 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.560 Bunny quadrant I was in through Easter, so I was like, 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.040 nobody will care, but that's pretty good. I Oddly enough, 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.120 I also got kicked out of several more than one 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:51.240 mall for not wearing shoes. It's true story. Anyway, Oh 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.560 my god, that's good. You're right though. You know, the 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.519 mall was supposed to be the place to find everything 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.320 you wanted in one convenient location, right, But thinking back 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.200 on it, man, none the thirteen malls within a half 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.200 hour of me growing up had one. But dude, I 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.200 will tell you what though, oddly right, I once ended 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.280 up in a mall in Brazil, in the city of Manaus, 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.600 right in the heart of the Amazon, and it had 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.919 one of the most badass tackle shops in them all. No, no, 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.760 I've been there, like I know exactly I know the 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:24.880 mall that you that was. I went to Manow's one 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.440 time because I was also on lucky enough to get 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.160 taken on a trip there, and I went to that mall. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:31.840 It was like, it's gotta be the same. It's the 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.799 one with all the guys with machine guns out in 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.200 front of every entrance, right, yeah, and there was that 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.200 there was a tackle shop in there, and and I 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.600 of course I went to it and they had like 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.440 some of the weirdest lures, like I've never seen those 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:49.240 lures anywhere else before or since. I dropped a few 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.440 hundred bucks like it was nothing. And I actually I 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.120 still have a bunch from today. I still fished them today. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.080 But were so cool that a few a few that 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.600 are kind of like not I don't know, they're just 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.760 like basically it's a spook, but because it has a 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.880 different shape and I brought it in Brazil, it's cooler 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:07.960 than all the other spooks I have. You know, it's 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.240 probably that more productive. But I do throw them with 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.960 caution because I just can't replace them. We're not neither 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:15.560 one of us are going back to the mall in 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.520 Manouse anytime soon. But dude, I gotta ask you. I 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.320 had no idea you'd been there. Um, did you happen 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.560 to stop by the store in that mall that sold 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:28.040 nothing but Michael Jackson memorabili Uh it was a long time. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.640 I'm sure I passed by it. I did not go 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.160 in there. I remember seeing like the black light posters 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.000 with Michael and like glitter or whatever. Yeah, and I 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.320 think I think his monkey had a few posters. I 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.160 remember seeing it, but I did not go in. Yeah, 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.200 did I ran in. I went in twice. I went 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.520 in twice, and I ended up. I went with the 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.920 Moonwalker pillow shams and the Bubbles, the chimp bath salts, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.120 you know, well bubbles Bubbles that was the name. I 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.080 couldn't remember. Oh well, yeah, I'm sure that was money 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:01.600 will Spend. It was, so, you know, getting to the 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.479 actual things we're supposed to talk about here. We don't 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.480 actually have a tackle shop report for you guys this week, 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.200 but we do have a fly shop report that comes 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.640 to us from Joe's home estate. That's right, And you 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.080 know it's early October. Dry fly ashtion is winding down 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.440 quickly around here as those temps start to drop. But 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.840 for anyone in North Jersey, Eastern p A where the 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.400 Cats Skills of New York. There are a few hatch 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.440 options still kicking around, and we thought who better to 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:30.359 fill you in than Sammy Jennardo from Gennardo and Son's 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.160 fly Shop, a New Jersey staple right next door to 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:37.200 Scachetti and Son's Plumbing and Demartali and Son's Florist up 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:45.400 there in Franklin Lakes. Hey, everybody how is doing? This? 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.480 Is Sammy Jennado from Jennado and Son's fly Shop and 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.159 Franklin Lakes, New Jersey. I'm here with the fishing report. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.640 Latzi is apparently headed up to the cat Skills this weekend. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.680 The fish that day. That's a good move. Streams of 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.920 New Jersey ain't doing ship Ken Lockwood, Gorge, fill it in. 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.799 It's dead. So you've been asking me about the hatches 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.520 up there, This is what I know. Right now, you're 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.680 gonna see some blue wing olives. Now, my buddy Richie 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.600 was over in the dream Catchers, Whichie from Newark. He 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:16.800 was fishing the dream Catches and he said he saw 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:21.560 a big twenty eating size b w woh, sipping it 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.040 just under the surface. Now, the important thing he is 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.680 to remember that if you're gonna be fishing to fish 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.640 just under the surface, you're not gonna see to eat. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.680 You may see a little dimple on the water, but 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.360 could be a fly, might not. So you got to 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.840 use the JETI mind tricks to figure out if that 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.080 fish just ate you fly, slowly lift the rod and 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.320 see what happened. The other option is that yell eat 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.320 that at the fish. Now, if yell eat that, the 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.920 percentage that the fish eat your fly is gonna be 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.600 a little bit higher than if you don't. Ice and 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.000 Nikki is you're gonna see a few of those in 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.680 the riffs. Now you're just gonna blind cast the big 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.600 ice saw. Now a fly for that is tied by 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.840 my buddy Jerry Tombrowski from Weehawkins. It's called Jerry's rattler. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.280 Now it's got a big rapper hackle bro. I mean, 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.200 this thing floats like a cork and you're gonna put 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.760 that over the fish and you're gonna just keep pummel 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:16.880 on him until he eats it. Other than that, you 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.800 got flying ants. Now aways that here one day to 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.640 gone the next. My only prediction for you is if 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.480 you get a dab of rain, little bit of humidity 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.320 in the air, just to touch a wind. You might 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.480 see him on the water. You see him on the water, 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.200 they're gonna be eighteens to twenty fours with fish ken 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.679 in more on the four than the eighteens. I am small, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.080 just a rapid thread, little puff of white c DC 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:44.200 like the trout hunter, your golden nymphant. You gotta get 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:48.080 it deep, real deep. You want like ten split shot 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.880 on that thing. Make sure you strike indicators rigged and 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.720 rocked and ready, and that's when you see that thing drops. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.480 Give him the left, bro, give them the lead. All right, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.560 That's what I got for you. I hope you get 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.600 into twenties. If you run into any cor trouble whatsoever, 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.960 I want you to stop by. See my guy Troy 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.680 West Main Auto in Hancock. Bang up, job, have a 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:16.040 good weekend. Giving them the lead. Totally. I can totally 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.200 relate to that. Man. I am. I'm the weirdo here 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.240 out west who doesn't hate nymphing. I actually it's kind 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.920 of fun. I'm good with it. I kind of do. 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.640 But I mean, if you grew up on the East 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.320 Coast and you were a trout fisherman, you had to 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.199 learn how to nymph right, like hatches and rising fish 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.760 were a luxury, Like it's not Montana, you know, like 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:39.280 where a stimmy just magically calls him up three Not true? 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.640 None of that true. Yes, I think it is. And 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.760 if you weren't catching trout here, you didn't change the fly, right, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.839 you just added more lead. That's how we did it 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:53.280 and and continue to do so. Yeah, yeah, no, and 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.079 I will you have bought into the hype that all 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.319 the Montana outfitters and guides want you to believe that 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.240 it's Drive Life three sixty five. It's not true. Don't 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.960 believe them. But since we're on the subject of dredging something, 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:07.839 I also am quite good at let's dig up some 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:12.120 dirt and transition from that completely bogus fly shop to 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.559 a very real one in Minnesota. I'm gonna check in 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.240 with its very real proprietor and former guide who's got 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.640 yet another story that will make you question how humanity 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.480 has survived as long as we have. This is Smooth Moves. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:37.440 Why joining us today on Smooth Moves? I am very 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:42.520 happy to have my dear friend, Mr Robert Hawkins. Robert, 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.199 how are you good? Good? How are you guys? I'm 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.640 pretty welcome, man, We're good. And uh, you own what 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.680 might be my favorite fly shop on the planet, Bob 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.839 Mitchell's fly Shop in St. Paul, Minnesota. And uh, in 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.679 case anybody hears any weird background noise, you're doing this 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.240 store an open store, our wars. So there are people 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.400 shopping for leaders and tippets and things in the background, 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:09.400 occasionally maybe some midges. That's that's what a high quality, 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.000 classy program we are. We actually take people away from 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.480 their real jobs so that they can help us out 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.640 with ours. Yeah, they are just jamming their pockets full 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.880 of midges while you're in the back office recording with 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.839 us right now. So just write us a bill. We'll 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:27.160 take care of it. But before the fly shop ownership 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.280 thing happened for you, you spent a lot of time 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.400 guiding in Montana and in Alaska. Did that for a 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.120 lot of years. Um, so what what what is our 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.560 smooth move from you today? Where did this happen? What's 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.760 going down? Hit us with it? So we were getting 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.120 out of the plane in the morning. We've got up 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.120 popping the plane, flew to the river and one of 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.600 our you know, our clients at our lodger always very 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:55.280 extremely well off and always have the best gear. And 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.160 this is in Alaska. I take it in Alaska. We 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.199 just landed at the top of Gibraltar Lake and we're 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.160 going to flow up the rafts and float down for 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.679 the day and end up in Lake Gillyan. But so, 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.880 you know, we park on the beach and the plane 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:11.480 kind of sits there and hangs out and waits for 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.280 everybody to get their rafts blown up. And the clients 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.760 are kind of assembling their rods. And this one particular client, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.400 you know, he had he'd gotten all four flyer ups, 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.679 you know, he and his wife's they each had to 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.320 they you know, they brought backups, right, so they had 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.439 two each just in case they broke one during the day. 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.160 And uh the plane is backed into the beach, you know, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.440 it's not running or anything, and the client has all 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.760 four rods in his hand and he he does this 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:40.480 like I'm pretending to cast movement, like you know, he 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.600 does like this back cast sort of movement, and all 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:48.000 four rods clipped the tailing edge of the airplane wing 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:54.040 and all all four rods just went and uh, so 0:11:55.520 --> 0:12:00.679 he broke all four of his rods in and one 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:05.880 fell swoop. That's amazing. Yeah, I'll mean honestly, like I've 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.439 seen two rods broken in the course of a day before, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.439 maybe three, but four in one false cast, yeah, and 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.199 one just silly false cast. And he was one of 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.360 those like kind of angry clients, you know, he just 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.400 always erngye. And I actually ended up having them in 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.120 my wrath that day, and he was It was also 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.240 him and his wife and they're like the bickery back 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.599 and forth couple and so all all it was like 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.480 one of my worst days on the river with us 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.959 two and he he also that day. He's the guy 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.000 that will say, hey, Mr Guide, can you pour me 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:43.040 a glass of wine? Please? You don't have a name, no, no, 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.920 I'm just missed Mr Guide. You. It was just a 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.319 brutal day, That's how it started. So what did he 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.480 have to do use like the stuff that you guys 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.839 had his backup or which we always we always bring 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.839 a couple of routes to just in case. And but 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.480 you know it that ruined his day instantly. No matter 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.000 what we've you know, we could have caught two fish 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.520 that day. His day was ruined instantly at the at 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.640 the beginning, and I think we did have a great 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.800 day that day, but he it was just all day, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.199 Well you did this, And isn't it fun to be 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.360 right in the middle of a marital squabble like all 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.640 day on the river. Just it just makes you feel 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:26.599 good about humanity. It's tough guiding married couples sometimes. That 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.240 right there, my friend, is why you always fill out 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:33.199 the warranty card. I'd love to read some of the 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.200 emails fly odd companies get trying to cover smooth moves 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.240 like that. You know, I want to cast the CDC 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.520 emerger in an open field and your rod broken five places, 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.959 it must be incredible to read something. They don't read 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.680 those emails like that's why they have the unconditional warranty, 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.360 so they don't have to read the emails, right because 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.839 they're like they know, they know, just like we do. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.800 That rods get broken in in car doors or when 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.800 your dog steps on him, like that's how it happens. Yep. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.559 That I think is why the unconditioned and a warranty 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.800 thing started, was just to cut down on paperwork, truly. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.440 But let's switch over from the river to the ocean 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.400 for this week's installment of fin Clips, where we teach 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.719 you everything you need to know about a fish you 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.240 probably never thought you wanted to know about in the 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.400 first place. This week, Joe is going to clue us 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:19.880 all into a species that makes European taste buds frolic 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.600 with the light and American anglers pout in winey self pity. 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:31.680 Squalis acantheus was once the most abundant shark species on 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.680 planet Earth. And for those of you not fluent in 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:39.480 Latin genuses, that's the spiny dogfish. Now, if you wet 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.160 a line for any kind of bottom fish from oh 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.320 Greenland to Miami, strong chance that you've encountered a spiny. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.960 And there's also a strong chance you're rolling your eyes 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.040 right now wondering why I'm devoting any time to spur 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.640 dogs when I could be using this time to give 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.080 you tips for catching more fluke, flounder, snowy group or 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.320 sea bass, porgies, or a shipload of other things you're 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.120 usually trying to catch while you're catching spiney dog fish. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:07.080 Well as rage against the machine once said, no your enemy, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.360 because while you Boston boys and hatteras heivers might hate spiney's, 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.920 they are gold elsewhere in the world. Aside from pretty 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.480 much the entire Eastern seaboards, spineys ply inshore and offshore 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.640 waters all across Northern Europe, the southern tips of Africa 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.720 and South America, and even southern Australia. Though knowing my luck, 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.000 even if I was on a dream trip to Fiji, 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.960 I'd still managed to catch one right state side. The 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:36.240 average doggy measures anywhere from twelve to thirty inches. Those 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:40.960 specimens pushing sixty inches have been recorded In England, where 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.360 spiney dog fish are arguably the most popular as a 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:48.000 food fish, they're labeled as huss in fish and chip shops. Historically, 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.240 the Brits sold them as rock salmon until Big Band 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.680 or Parliament or whoever eventually came along and said no, stop, 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.880 that it's just too misleading. The French, on the other hand, 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.880 could care less and still sell them as small salmon. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.440 The Italian stallions call them con bianco, which, according to 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.680 my translator Google just means white can, and the German 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.320 seemed to think it sells better as zippolling or sea 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.840 eel instead of the more appropriate sea shark. But here 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.400 in the States, eating spiny dogfish just can't seem to 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.320 catch on among the masses. Tons of spineys are hauled 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.600 up by trawlers throughout the Atlantic every year in search 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.800 of more popular species, and those doggies are generally discarded 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.920 as bycatch, even though organizations like the Cape Cod Commercial 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:32.240 Fisherman's Alliance has sponsored initiatives to get sustainably caught doggies 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.200 in cape Cod restaurants and fish markets. Now, according to 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.400 my inside source at Wikipedia, the UK based International Union 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.600 for Conservation of Nature as well as Greenpeace have added 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.560 the spiney dog fish to their seafood red lists and 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.560 claim global stocks have decreased significantly, even as much as 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:55.360 around Europe because euro McDonald's can't sell those McRock salmon 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.640 and mix seel sandwich is fast enough. Funny thing is 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.800 those in the know, me being one of them, will 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.920 confirm that if I gave you a piece of dog 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.879 fish disguised in a crispy panco breading, you'd guess it 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.240 was any number of more popular firm white meat salty 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.399 bottom fish. But to be fair, the times I've had it, 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.920 someone else caught it and cooked it for me, and 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.400 every single time I enjoyed it with a little tartar sauce, 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.679 I said to myself, these are really good. I should 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.600 start keeping some of these. That attitude changes quickly, though, 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.240 when you're burning boat fuel with a brain locked on stripers, 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.800 freezing your nuts off in the winter for cod or 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.960 dreaming of doramat fluke, and every diamond, jade, clam strip 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.600 and gulp teaser gets wolfed by a spiny the second 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.240 you drop it down, and it almost makes it pretty 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.720 hard to believe that the spiny dog fish are in 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.000 any kind of trouble. And when you move ten times 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.639 and can't get away from them, you just hate them 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.119 so much that you can't lower yourself to filling that 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.720 sexy yetti coffin box with the scourge of the sea, 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.240 let alone post a picture of you holding one with 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.800 a smile on Instagram, especially when you consider that spiny 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:02.160 dog fish get their name for to incredibly hard thick 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.720 needle points spines on their backs, both just forward of 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.320 their two dorsal fins, and they're there for a reason, 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.040 and that reason is to ruin your day. A dog 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.000 fish will writhe and twist and swing its tail around 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.680 and arch its back to make every effort to stick 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.959 you good while you're trying to unhook one. Those spines 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.239 are sharp enough to go through clothing gloves. I've even 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.760 seen them go through PVC rain here. Bonus, those spines 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.080 inject you with a mild venom that, while non toxic, 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.919 j seems to make a wounded kin to getting stabbed 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.640 with a splintering wooden kebab skiw wher hurt a lot more. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.080 When you are forced to unhook a doggie every thirty 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.680 seconds all day, Suddenly you no longer want to eat 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:50.200 one you just wanted off the goddamn boat. Well. I 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.240 don't know about everyone else, but I just got hungry 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.520 for spiny dog fish, tater tots, and ranch dressing, which 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.639 here in Montana we call montanamandas or sometimes hockey sauce 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.640 because you know the honkeys they love it, but fight 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:09.080 that craving. Don't pause now to swing into the drive 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.320 through at euro McDonald's, because we are about to pump 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:19.760 your guts full of fish news. Fish news that escalated quickly. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.080 So this is fish news where we uh tell you 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.400 all the fun, interesting fish and fish and related things 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.360 you need to know happening recently out there in the world. Reminder, 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.639 this is a competition, Miles, and I do not know 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.040 what stories the other guys bringing to the table, and 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:39.359 as always are mighty audio engineer Phil at the end 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.720 will declare a victor, and I'm coming off a win, 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.200 and I'm happy about that because I was losing confidence 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.639 in myself there for a little while. Don't get too 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.360 comfortable in that chair, That's all I'm saying. You better 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.760 call fives on that if you're getting Not only did 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.920 I win, he managed to work in a Celine Dion 0:19:56.119 --> 0:20:00.440 and Sarah McLaughlin reference in his announcement of that win. 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:06.840 Because he's fantastic. He's the real talent here. But it 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:08.920 always benefits to be the leadoff man that is me 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.720 this week. And I'm excited, Okay, I'm very excited. I 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.879 love both of my stories, largely because both of them 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.040 are kind of gonna go off the rails a bit. 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.440 I'm gonna come from left field and it feels good. 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.879 And we're allowed to do this because we make the rules. Okay. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.560 We decide not only what is news, but which news 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.760 stories are the most important ist that you need to 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.800 hear um And this first one, I'm just gonna get 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.280 right to it. Just just warm my heart. I love it. 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:41.160 So from the Cape Cod Times headline, obsessed Jaws fan 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:46.320 replicates Chief Brodie's ride. I didn't even have to read 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.200 anything more about the story to know that this man 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:54.119 is my hero. Okay. So from the story, Gabe de 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.119 Saverio calls himself a Jaw's nut. He's into anyone or 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:02.280 anything that has any connection to the Killers Shark blockbuster 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:07.160 movie Jaws. The obsession has infiltrated all facets of his life, 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.800 just like it has mine. We are we are connected. Here, 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.679 it says De s Varios vacations have been Jaws themed, 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.600 his business and conservation efforts revolve around sharks, and his 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.200 daughter's middle name is Ellen, after the Jaws character Police 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:28.160 Chief Martin Brodie's wife. And he's quoted here saying, I'm 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:31.840 pretty sure I can scientifically prove that it's the greatest 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:36.640 movie ever made. Gabe, I will help fund that research. 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.960 I will chip in so we can finally settle what 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.600 us Jaws freaks really know is already the truth. So 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.240 a little background gave is the owner of the Spicy 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:49.000 Shark Hot Sauce Company. Okay, And the story goes on 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.480 and says part of His Jaws fandom includes a fifteen 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:56.359 year search for a nineteen seventy five Chevy Blazer like 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.320 the one Chief Brodie drove in the movie, and while 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:03.040