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Speaker 1: can do that. Good morning, degenerate anglers, Welcome to Bent

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Speaker 1: Miles Nulti, uh and uh. I think we're about to

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Speaker 1: after Chief Martin Brody, but Gabe is quoted in the

424
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: piece of saying you can call him Marty well good.

425
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: He also considers the Jaws replica blazer a part of

426
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: his family. He says, I have a daughter. This is

427
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: my son, So listen. I reached out to Gabe and

428
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: asked for more photos of Marty and you can see

429
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 1: those on my Instagram page that's at Joe dot Smellie

430
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: thirty eight. And the next time I'm on the Cape,

431
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: you will see photos of me driving this blazer. Okay,

432
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: assuming it's not a stick shift. So Gabe, bravo, bravo.

433
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, that that is the most Joe Surmeli fish

434
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: news story that I had ever heard in my life.

435
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: And that's fine if it, if it, if it earns

436
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: me a loss, I don't care, because that had I had,

437
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't not you. You couldn't leave that one on

438
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: the table. You had to take that. I couldn't agree.

439
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: It's so bad. It's so perfect. I mean, it is

440
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: absolutely perfect. The truck is amazing. I think you might

441
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: have found like a long lost brother that your parents

442
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: didn't tell you about. Like you guys were separated at birth,

443
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: and and now you're going to come back together. That's

444
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: just a heartwarming, heartwarming tail for anyone. Everyone loves a

445
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: story of families reunited. I've I've done all the things

446
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: I've done, the stupid Martha's Vineyard tour, like where all

447
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: the things happened. I remember when Jaws the Revenge, which

448
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: was terrible, came out. My parents took me to a

449
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: Universal's like traveling museum thing where they had all these

450
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: props and they had the shark from Jaws four, and

451
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: I saw nothing else in the entire exhibit. We just

452
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: stayed it with the shark. And so my dad was like,

453
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: all right, come on, we gonna go at dinner. We

454
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: want to look at the Indiana Jones stuff. I was like, no,

455
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: just the shark. No, I'm here for the sharks. Well,

456
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: it's always been somewhat ironic to me that the Jaws

457
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: thing is is centered on the East coast of North

458
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: America because a while there are white sharks there, that's

459
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: not really the part of the world that's known for

460
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: white sharks. I'll give you that you're in the California

461
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: coast is known more for white sharks. But if you

462
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: really want to talk about white sharks, you think about Australia.

463
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean like that that's where people really really think

464
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: about them. And you know, it just so happens that

465
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: this first story I'm coming with it comes from Australia,

466
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: strangely enough, and we know for a fact, as of

467
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: last week we have at least one listener in Australia,

468
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: so we're basically talking to him. Hopefully he's listening now

469
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: lost him. He hasn't been eaten by a great white

470
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: all right, So quick question, Joe, as a father of

471
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: young kids, have you ever heard of Bush's. I've heard

472
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: of many things, but not that, or if I have

473
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: heard of it, I just like blocked it out of

474
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: my brain. I'm like, I don't know what they're saying.

475
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but I don't think

476
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: so you've seen them. I hadn't heard of either, but

477
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: you've seen them there, there's just kind of squished down

478
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: little plastic figurines in the shape of popular cartoon characters,

479
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: all right, and apparently they're like the new Beanie babies

480
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: in that they are completely useless crap that people have

481
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: been duped into collecting. And just like with other kids collectibles,

482
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, for example, say POGs, the common ones are

483
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: totally worthless. The rare ones are crazy valuable. Someone supposedly

484
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: paid fifteen grand for one of these lumps of molded

485
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: plastic on eBay. Alright, so I believe it though. I mean,

486
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: it's just it's yeah, it's it's worth that right now

487
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: this very minute. So good on you out there that

488
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: are anymore. I may or may not know personally, you know,

489
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far off here, but

490
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: in researching this story, I found a headline that actually said,

491
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: so she's the new bitcoin anyway, So she's are a

492
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: point of contention in Australia, where the store chain Woolworths

493
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: just ran a second annual promotion giving them away to

494
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: any customer who spends thirty bucks. Last year, this giveaway

495
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: lead to grown ass people rioting, fighting and threatening each

496
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: other over lifeless children's toys so remember. Yeah. And while

497
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: while some Australians clearly love the little buggers, others are pissed.

498
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: One woman wrote on the Woolworths Facebook page, quote they're

499
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: terrible for the environment. They often end up in landfill

500
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: or is litter. Another customer wrote, quote very saddened and

501
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: disappointed to hear that Walworts are bringing back the plastic

502
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: pushes that cause so much destruction to our already struggling environment.

503
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: And the issue, of course, is that these little plastic

504
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: figurines may be beloved and valuable now, but they, like

505
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: all their cute collectible predecessors, will soon be an afterthought,

506
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: just fleeting cultural refuse, destined for landfills, where they will

507
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: slowly break down and turn into more microplastic, choking rivers,

508
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: lakes and oceans. They'll be right there with all the

509
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: l O L dolls that my kid has, same thing,

510
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: same premise thing. But there's a brain side here. One

511
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: industrious angler down Under has actually found a viable use

512
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: for these detestable wads of petroleum distillate. Mark Pace of

513
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: Queensland is using USh. He's as snapper lures nice marks.

514
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: That it's great, dude, You gotta check this out. Mark

515
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: posted uh photos and video of himself on Facebook reefing

516
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: in snapper of various types and sizes, including one big

517
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: as red snapper on what, from what I could tell,

518
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: looks to be a dropper loop rig baited with green

519
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: glow in the dark bushy figurines. In the video on

520
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: his post, we see Mark lifting a fish over the gunnal,

521
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: turning to the camera and saying paces post just says, quote,

522
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: anyone have any glow in the dark sheets? They don't want?

523
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: Happy to pay a dollar each? And I'm guessing Mark

524
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: didn't really think this through, like as a social media move,

525
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: because if his goal was to get people to sell

526
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: him their glow in the dark she's for cheap, then

527
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: he probably shouldn't have led on that their dynamite snapper lures.

528
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, good luck getting anyone to give them away

529
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 1: to you, now, dude, Like that was not the way

530
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: to go about it. You should have just been like, hey,

531
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: anybody have any isshes just just wondering, so why why

532
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: while you're talking? I just did a quick search because

533
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know what these were. But now I look

534
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: at him, I'm like, oh, yes, they do. I stepped

535
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: on five of them yesterday. Um, this is wonderful that

536
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: he's turned this into the lure. But for people wondering, like, well,

537
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: does it have some natural innate like fishy baity looking

538
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: something to it? No, Like, it's just so hard. It's

539
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: it's just a little molded piece of plastic in the

540
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: shape of a figure. That's it, like more on the

541
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: bushes than the other people on the Like, is there

542
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: like is there a real secret here or is it

543
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: pure gimmick or what? I don't know? Like what I've again,

544
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of information there. It doesn't

545
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: seem like he's trying to blow it up. He just

546
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: put up this post being like, hey, I'm looking for

547
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: some oshes found a use for him. Anybody want to

548
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: give me their glow in the dark gushes, I'm I'm

549
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: working on the snapper. But for their part, Woolworths is

550
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: not excited about their trashy toys being put to good use. Finally,

551
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: UH spokesper and for the company told Yahoo News quote,

552
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: while we don't encourage the use of bushies for fishing bait,

553
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: they can be used in many other ways, from storytelling,

554
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: taking care of them as special collector's items or popping

555
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: them on the back of pencils, And right now I'm

556
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: just calling bs on all of that ephemeral plastic toys,

557
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: especially these fake collectible ones, are one of the foulest

558
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: offshoots of consumer culture. So good on Mark for finding

559
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: some kind of actual use for this disgusting flots um.

560
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,239
Speaker 1: But he probably should have kept it to himself. That's

561
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. Something I'm taking away from this

562
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: and I'd have to do some research to find out

563
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: the same thing. Um, I'm just blown away by this

564
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: being Woolworths, which makes me wonder is that the same

565
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: Woolworths that used to be all over the US and

566
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: has now gone where they're still huge in Australia. Really? Yeah, okay,

567
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: all right, okay, that's one thing. Um. Also I mean that, yeah,

568
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: like you're gonna get mad about this, like people if

569
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: people over here got mad about people using ridiculous toys

570
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: and ship to catch fish, that would be somebody ranting

571
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: and raven every day of the week. McDonald's Disney. Like

572
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: there was just something that popped up, some nemo toy

573
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Yeah, dude's catching peacock bass with that, but

574
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think it's pretty frugal.

575
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: You also mentioned POGs. I was like, since we started

576
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: this podcast, I was like, who's going to be the

577
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: first one to work in POGs? And it was you.

578
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: That's so good on that, And now I'm thinking, like

579
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: I still got on them slammers somewhere that. On the

580
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: other hand, you could probably drill a nice hole through

581
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: each end, right, throw a little split ring on there.

582
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Those would also make a great lore, because I think

583
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: POGs are too old for the new YouTube generation to

584
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: be making poglures because they don't know what that is.

585
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: So I called it and uh, we're gonna we're gonna

586
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: have to make some pog lures. Uh Do my kids

587
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: have the similar ushy things laying all over the place there,

588
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: There's not been one yet that I'm like, Man, that

589
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: would make a tremendous lure. So that's why I'm giving

590
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: Mark credit. Like a lot of these things are obvious, right, like,

591
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this swimming cool. Nothing about this looks fishy,

592
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: but apparently he's doing well on it. So that's why

593
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: I was impressed. I was like, this does not fit.

594
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: I like this, here's what drives me crazy. And and

595
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: you have you have a son who's younger, so you

596
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: might never have to deal with this. But see, I

597
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: have a daughter who is five. So for all the

598
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: dads of daughters out there, like a lot of this stuff,

599
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: and I don't know if she's the same thing. The

600
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: whole fun for the kids is like the um unwrapping,

601
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: like l O l's come in a ball and like

602
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: you don't know which one you're gonna get, and it's

603
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: like a big surprise egg and like that is what

604
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: you're paying for. And then she doesn't do ship with

605
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: them after she opens them. They just lay around gambling

606
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: for five year olds exactly. So I'm just gonna I'm

607
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: gonna have to like start if I dude, I could

608
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: take a two dozen of them and she wouldn't even know.

609
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: We'll go from from repurposing toys and frugal lores um

610
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: to to this story. Great segue here, and this one's

611
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: was a little outside of the box. This is somewhere

612
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: we haven't gone at least in terms of source yet.

613
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: So I got this as a hot tip off from

614
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: a friend of mine, Brian Schmidt. Do you happen to

615
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: know Brian Schmidt. You know who he is, Schmidty. I mean, dude,

616
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. Maybe I don't know. Okay,

617
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: So so Brian for years he was the guy in

618
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: charge of fly development for Umpqua, and now he struck

619
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: out on his own and he started Brian Schmidt Bates

620
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: and you should check out his stuff. Yeah I knew,

621
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: I know this dude. Yeah. He makes amazing baits. Yeah.

622
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Schmitter bug and all that stuff. That's

623
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: all him, right, amazing dude. So um now now he's

624
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: just Brian Schmidt Bates and he makes all kinds of

625
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: cool swim baits and and rats and Jason Spinner baits

626
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: awesome stuff. Anyway, Uh, just last week he sent me

627
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: a text and it said, did you watch today's What's

628
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: New at tackle Warehouse video? Apparently tackle Warehouse does a

629
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: news video every week of like new products, and I

630
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: know you Bass guys especially no tackle Warehouse huge online retailer.

631
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 1: So he says did you see that video and then

632
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: follows it with, um, wow. All I can say is

633
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: it puts the lotion in the basket. So I'm like,

634
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: al right, right, So I watched and one thing new

635
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: last week was the Manifold De Naro swim bait. Now

636
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: it's jointed right, and it's it's this is kind of

637
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: like a new uh lower release news piece, but it's

638
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: just it's just gonna go. Hey wire. Here thirteen and

639
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: a half inches long and covered in leather. Now that

640
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: leather has what I'd call sort of a snake skin texture,

641
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: but all around the edge it's hand stitched right like

642
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: the buffalo bill skin suit. Hence Brian's nod to lotion

643
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: in the basket. Okay, so so here's some of the

644
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: description of this new Manifold De Niro swim bait. Developed

645
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: by the owner of Manifold Leather, who has over thirty

646
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: four years of experience in the fine leather industry in Japan.

647
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: The Manifold De Niro glide bait boasts superior craftsman ship

648
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: and was created for targeting monster your size bass. It

649
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: features a hand car of polyethylene body, which provides the

650
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: foundation and allows the bait to swim with a perfectly balanced,

651
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: wide S shaped gliding blah blah blah, because that's the

652
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: description of every glide bait. Every glide bait is a

653
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: wide S shape. Okay, nothing this is nothing new, okay,

654
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: so you haven't hooked us there. On the outside, the

655
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: Manifold Naro Glidebate is covered in hand stitched onent horse

656
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: hide leather. That's horse leather, horse leather that does not

657
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: get colder than traditional abs plastic, which ensures the bait

658
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: has the same body temperature and texture as a living

659
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: bait fish for a more natural presentation, and says as

660
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: the leather progresses, the surface foil also becomes weathered and

661
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: becomes more like a wounded or weak bait fish. And

662
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: there are two disclaimers. Uh they're one is the Manifold

663
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Naro Glidebate moves properly once the leather has absorbed water,

664
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: and be sure to read the instructions included in each

665
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: box for proper operating and storing procedures. So this company, Manifold,

666
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: as I understand it, is best known for fine leather goods,

667
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: but also kind of dabbles in lures because the same

668
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: video also showcased the herdbait from them with no leather work. Okay,

669
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I'm super curious about these instructions

670
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: and I can't find the specifics. But the dude in

671
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: the video noted that you need to let it soak

672
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: for a bit to let the leather absorb water, because

673
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: if it doesn't absorb the right amount of water, it

674
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: can affect the buoyancy and action. And they're like and like,

675
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: who first? Who has time for that? That's why I

676
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: cast lure. Who it's time to think that much? Okay,

677
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: And then he says the instructions feature specific storage tips

678
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: so you don't ruin the leather. Now here's the thing,

679
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: and I sent you a photo of this. In my

680
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: opinion right now, it's hideous. It's it's not at all

681
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: part of the swim bait deal is like you're like,

682
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, that looks like a real brown trap. Whatever.

683
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: It's it's not at all aesthetically pleasing, and in fact,

684
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: I find it very bizarre looking. And clearly you're buying

685
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: the proposed benefits of the leather because to me, the

686
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: like it's the action doesn't sound an different any other

687
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: glide bait. Right. So here's the kicker, though, take a

688
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: whack at the price. Go ahead, take a whack at

689
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: the price. Got to be at least a lure four

690
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty dollars. What four sixty dollars, right, and

691
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: that's just for the There's another model that has some

692
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: weird fancy metal face attachment that's five and twelve dollars. Okay,

693
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: it's got like it's got like a lector mask. I

694
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: actually think it's like to create. You can hang leeds

695
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: off it and like different times. But it looks freaking

696
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: elector mask. So four d and sixty bucks for a lure. Um,

697
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: as Brian put it in a follow up text, that

698
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: you gotta rub like a baseball glove. I mean, listen,

699
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: did I have the utmost respect for the dedicated swim

700
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: bait colt? Right? I'm fascinated by the method I which

701
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: I would. I wish I had more dedication to to

702
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: fish that way. I love it. I love it. But

703
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: like swim bait dudes, this is a joke, right, Like

704
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 1: is who who is buying this? That's the buying this lure.

705
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: And here's the thing those as you already pointed out,

706
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: there there are those very very expensive swim baits and

707
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: they look a certain way, they look photo realistic, they

708
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: have that incredible movement to them. Blah blah blah. This

709
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: thing kind of looks like a high school arts and

710
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: crafts project that someone's selling on Etsy. It's I mean,

711
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: you can see all the stitching. It's not poorly done,

712
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: but it's it's not super impressive. Yeah, it's not poorly done,

713
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't know it's like fine leather work. By no,

714
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: it's it's I I take it manifolds like Coach. So

715
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: if like Coach made a lure and this was it, you,

716
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: you certainly wouldn't pick up on that level of craftsmanship

717
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: just by looking and with all lords. Dude, come on, man,

718
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: we buy the ship with our eyes, you know, and

719
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: I know, and how many lawyers are sold because of

720
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: their shelf appeal. And if you put this next to

721
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 1: a T Spro swim bait, guess which one I'm buying?

722
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: Even if no question. So, I mean, here's the other

723
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: thing that I thought of, here's the other piece that

724
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: I thought. I was really surprised to hear you say

725
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: it was leather because I haven't to know, just because

726
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: I know weird ship like this that people tan fish skin.

727
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: You can actually take fishkin when you can tan it,

728
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, absolutely so why wouldn't you use that on

729
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: this product? Why wouldn't you use actual fishkin. If you're

730
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: gonna go to this hand stitching, hand tanned level of craftsmanship,

731
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: why not use fishkin. That's that's where I'm a little

732
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: bit lost. And maybe maybe fishkin doesn't hold up as well,

733
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't work. There are probably things I don't know,

734
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: but that was the first thing that I thought of,

735
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: And I feel like there's things I don't know because

736
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: there's it's so new that even even tackle warehouse like

737
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: there's not that much info about it. And I tried

738
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: to just google up the lore, and I mean, you

739
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: get linked to all these Japanese leather making sites. I

740
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: couldn't find like a direct link. But I I even

741
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: partially understand, you know, the desire for these hard to

742
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: get Japanese swim baits and things. I see the same

743
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: thing in the striper world. There's certain hand turned wooden

744
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: lures that people just go nuts for. It doesn't really

745
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: matter if they're fishing them or not. But I mean,

746
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: at some point this just goes beyond fish ability, Like

747
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: you're paying five bucks for a lure allure that requires

748
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: as much care and attention as a fine leather couch,

749
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: Like why would you do that? It's supposed to be

750
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: thrown around in a lake, like in weeds and mud

751
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: and ship you know, and I've seen some wacky stuff

752
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: and swim baits. This is next level and what I

753
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: would love to hear maybe we can get away in later,

754
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: like from our friend Oliver and I like a big

755
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: bass catching swim bait chucking Amigo to weigh in and

756
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I don't get it either, or dude,

757
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: maybe we're idiot's and it's like, no, here's why. This

758
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: is the next level. Yeah, And on that durability thing, man, Like,

759
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: the thing that I'm currently interested in with swin babies

760
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: is throwing them from muskie And I'm just imagining what

761
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: happens when a muskie hits a leather lure, and I

762
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: don't think it's pretty, especially one that I spent four

763
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: some odd dollars on. But I'm gonna I'm gonna stick

764
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: with that and and move into our our final segment,

765
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: which is a muskie story and you'll also detect. I'm

766
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: a little proud of myself this week because I definitely

767
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: stuck with a theme that you're going to detect, all right,

768
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: and and I hope it comes through pretty clear. So

769
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: Greg Leonard sounds like my kind of guy. He's a

770
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: land conservation officer from Augusta, Wisconsin who also happens to

771
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: be a hardcore musky addict. He calls the Chipwa Fluage

772
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: his home waters, and I have fished that flowage and

773
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: it's it's an incredible place, a special, special place. Despite

774
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: the fact that Greg spends as much free time as

775
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: possible musky fishing, and it has been doing so for decades,

776
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: he seems to suffer a similar fate or perhaps curse

777
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: that that you and I do Joe, when it comes

778
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: to big muskie, because he just he can't seem to

779
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: crack a really big fish. He's he's stuck at which,

780
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: for the record, is a very big musky, but not

781
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: the fish that musky junkies COVID. You know they all

782
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: want the fifty. Right For the record, I will say,

783
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: if I caught a forty five on fly, I'd be like,

784
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: and I'm done, don't have to do. I'd be fine

785
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: with that for me. But last August Greg did a

786
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: good deed for the musky gods that I hope will

787
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: pay dividends for him this fall. I hope, I hope

788
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: what he did like pays his car before and he

789
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: gets his fifty. Greg was fishing mid afternoon one day

790
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: late August when he hooked a midsized muskie you know,

791
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: nothing special, fought it to the boat, put it in

792
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: the net. Hook pop free wants fish in the net,

793
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: and he's he's just about to release it when he

794
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: noticed something odd, a mud stained diving ring encircling the

795
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: fishes midsection. Now, for those of you who don't know

796
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: what a diving ring is, I don't know what that is. Yeah,

797
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm about to explain it. They're they're they're small hoops,

798
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: like a few inches in diameter, usually used for swimming

799
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: lessons and lifeguard training. So diving rings are specially weighted

800
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: so that when you throw them in the water they sink,

801
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: but then they sit upright on the bottom, got so

802
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: that divers can swim down and easily grab them. Because

803
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: they're because they're training tools. They're also made of like

804
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: really heavy duty plastic so that they can withstand years

805
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: of use and pools. Alright, so Greg catches this muskie

806
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: and it has a diving ring stuck around its midsection.

807
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: And the thing's been there a while because the fish

808
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: has has like started to grow around the ring, and

809
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: the ring is cutting pretty deep into the fish's body. Yeah,

810
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: Greg tries to pull the ring off like you would,

811
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: but like, I mean, it is really literally the fish

812
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: is growing around it. It's it's not going anywhere. So

813
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: here's where his story gets weird to me. Then he

814
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: used a bolt cutter, and even the bolt cutter couldn't

815
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: cut through the thing. But I mean, quick side note,

816
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: man who carries a bolt cutter on their fishing boat,

817
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: I do not every fisherman in New Jersey, but really

818
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. I'm just like, why why actually

819
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: takes up a lot of room on your boat? You know,

820
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, I will say not to get off on that,

821
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: but I do know people who carry bolt cutters. More so,

822
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: ink is like they need to cut the lock on

823
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 1: their spare tire, like their trailer tire pops or something,

824
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: and they can't find the key, you know, stuff like that.

825
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: And and maybe like maybe they were side cutters and

826
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: the story got it wrong. I'm not sure, but I'm

827
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: picturing like a full on bolt cutter, and and and

828
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: maybe it was misreported, I'm not sure. But anyway, if

829
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: it was a bowl cutter, whatever it was, I'm glad

830
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: that Greg had one, because even though he couldn't cut

831
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: completely through that ring, he did cut it enough that

832
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: he could relieve the pressure on it and he was

833
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: able to slide it off the fish and then set

834
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: the fish free. Okay, And being a natural resource manager

835
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: by trade, he showed the ring and the photos to

836
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: one of his colleagues, a fisheries manager named Max Walter,

837
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: and they came up with a theory about this. Their theory.

838
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: Here's here's how their theory goes, someone lost the diving

839
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: ring in the lake and it just set their upright

840
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: sitting on the bottom for god knows how long. Yeah,

841
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: and and that muskie is in the area chasing bait,

842
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: and the bait tries to you, is that ring to

843
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: like get away from predator? Trying to get that right?

844
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: Get stuck? And they estimate that that fish carried that

845
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: ring around for two years before Greg caught it and

846
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: cut it loose. You know what. It is amazing, But

847
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: there are similar stories out there. One that always sticks

848
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: with me is I remember these these pictures floating around

849
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: of a striper that had metal arms from an umbrella

850
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: trolling rag coming out of its stomach, I mean poking

851
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: through its stomach. So we tend to coddle fish as

852
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: we should, I mean, be careful with releasing everything. But

853
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: then every once in a while you see one of

854
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: these stories and it kind of makes you go, you know,

855
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: they're a lot more resilient than you think they are.

856
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: They're tough. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's an anecdote, right,

857
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: this is it's a cool, feel good story. But I

858
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: got a hand here because Greg had a final note, right,

859
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: and and he was explaining why he's now publicly sharing

860
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: this story. And he says, plastic toys have no place

861
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: in our lakes, and I agree with them, but I'd

862
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: take it a step further and say that they have

863
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: no place in our bodies of water, unless, of course,

864
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: you're using them as a fishing lure and you're bringing

865
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: back out. I want to I want to qualify that,

866
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: But I, like everyone else, I have tons of useless

867
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: plastic crap at my house, so I'm not getting all

868
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: high and mighty on this, but I do try and

869
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: minimize the amount of plastic that I purchase. And it's

870
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: really hard, especially when you know you have kids and

871
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: they come home from every birthday party with a bag

872
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 1: of useless plastic crap, but try to be mindful about

873
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: what we buy. And moreover, I am definitely that guy

874
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: who will pull the boat over to pick up trash,

875
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: especially plastic, and I hope all of you out there

876
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: listening will consider doing the same. I'm not saying like

877
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: that's going to solve the microplastics problem or like I'm

878
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: saving the world or you will either, but but it's

879
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: something we can all do. And I think that this

880
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: theme of if you're gonna throw plastics in the water,

881
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: make sure it's tethered due a line to catch a fish.

882
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: Otherwise just don't do it. That That's where I'm leaving

883
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: for today with Fish News. I think that's a great place.

884
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: That was a great message, That was a great end. Okay,

885
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm with you on all that. It gives Phil a

886
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: lot to debate because we've had, Man, we've had quite

887
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: a gamut of stories this week. So we're gonna find

888
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: out from Phil who clenched this one um and then uh,

889
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: talking about being mindful, being you know, being mindful of

890
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: what you buy, We're gonna go right to sale bin

891
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: right after we hear from Phil for a deal that boy.

892
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: You just can't miss Joe, give yourself more credit. You

893
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: let off strong with that Jaws story. But I'm giving

894
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: the wind to Miles an Olte. Miles, I appreciated your

895
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: theme of throwing useless, harmful plastic trash into the water,

896
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: but I have got to go. I'm gonna go try

897
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: to bring in some ducks with a Peter bankman. Funko, Pop.

898
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: You know she's mate, No, she's indeed. Why did you

899
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: put the hand to pay? You don't know what I'm getting? Man,

900
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: You didn't have to be so hurtful with me so angry.

901
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: We have been getting a steady stream of sail Bin

902
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: submissions from you guys, and we appreciate that deeply. And

903
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: I gotta say congratulations to listener Tony Cordero, because you,

904
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: my friend, scored honors as our first ever sail Bin

905
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: item from the fan base with an absolute gem posted

906
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: on Facebook marketplace in Cowa Chan Valley, British Columbia. All right,

907
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: so up for grabs this week is a sixteen foot

908
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: win A Boto with horsepower, mercury two stroke and trailer now.

909
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: The official description reads half trailer, half house boat, horsepower

910
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: Merk two stroke. If you're looking for a project parentheses

911
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 1: needs work and a good time and a good time,

912
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: this is for you fIF dred dollars or best offer.

913
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: And I can barely even describe this. It's so outlandish.

914
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: Do my best here. So someone took like a nineties,

915
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: sixties or seventies model Winnebago, and we're talking about the

916
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: smaller kind you pull behind your truck. Not hold up,

917
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: I think. I hate to cut you off here, but

918
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: it's not actually a Winnebago. Okay, it's like a knockout.

919
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of trailer it is. It's

920
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: just a cheap seventies pulled behind trailer. But to call

921
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: it stream, he's not. It's not an airstream. No, But yeah,

922
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. You can't even see

923
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: what it is. He clearly makes it. The photos don't

924
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: tell you the make or model. But this thing is not.

925
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: This is some kind of knockoff brand. I can tell

926
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: you that much, right now, fair enough, because there was

927
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: no brand jumping out at me. So I I don't

928
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: know trailers, so I just went with Winnebago. But not okay,

929
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: but what what they did here? Uh? They added a

930
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: back deck, and then I guess somehow sealed up the

931
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: bottom and turned it into a homemade house boat. But

932
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: here's here's the thing. It's still trailer able, right, So

933
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: in other words, it's not like they chopped the bottom

934
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: off the knockoff winnie and then glued that into a

935
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: boat hole. Like the tires and wheel wells and attached

936
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: trailer tongue are all still fully intact. All of it's there,

937
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: So the exception of the back deck and the and

938
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: the outboard, you'd never know it was a boat, right.

939
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: And I suppose someone could could run with this concept

940
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: and do this really really well if they wanted to,

941
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: if that was their calling in life. But this does

942
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: not appear to have been done really really well. I mean,

943
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: I I don't know, dude. I would not go out

944
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: on the water on this vessel. I wouldn't go more

945
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: than off shore on this vessel. I can tell you

946
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: that right now. It's it's I think you have to like,

947
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: if you're looking at this, if you were looking at

948
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: it from the front end, you would have no idea

949
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: that it was anything. Just a crappy old trailer. That's

950
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like, and then you flip it

951
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: around to the back and there's the strange open deck

952
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: on the back, which you know, Okay, that's a little

953
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: weird on a trailer, but maybe like maybe like the

954
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: party outside, that's cool. But then there's a Mercury outboard

955
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: hanging off the trand like there's a transom that's been

956
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: reinforced and the Mercury outboard. I feel like this is

957
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: so close to brilliance, right I do, because someone's like, man,

958
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I would love to have my trailer

959
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: that I could just put on the water, like I

960
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: love dragging around, I love doing, but I want a

961
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: boat to Why can't it be both? And my hat

962
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: is off to the ingenuity there, but I am not

963
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: sold on the engineering. That's that's where I'm not sold

964
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: on this one, right right, and again it just looks

965
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: like a box trailer, like there was no attempt at

966
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: like a v hall or it would just be like

967
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: a floating box on the water. But there are shots

968
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: of it adrift, okay, with like a bunch of hippie

969
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: kids on the roof. It looks like a spring brea, yeah,

970
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: raising hard sighters in the air. Um. But as you

971
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: pointed out a few observations I had in the photos

972
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: that sucker is very very close to shore, Like they're

973
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: not in the middle of Puget Sound in that some

974
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: bitch like it's right near the ramp or or whatever. Um.

975
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: But now if you if you look at the interior

976
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: shots of the cabin, though, yeah, there's some water damage

977
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: in there, right. Have you grown up in a house

978
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: with a basement that floods? I know moldy buckling wood

979
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: paneling when I see it, and there was water in

980
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: that cabin. Having slept in old seventies trailers more than

981
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: once that had leaky roofs, and like had had leaky

982
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: roofs for a long time, that's what this looks like.

983
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: Everything's peeling off the walls. There's definitely black mold hiding

984
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: just under the surface of everything. And there's nothing that

985
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: has changed about this interior since it came off of

986
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: the assemb blue line in two Yeah, down to the

987
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: floral print yep on the booth, and I see, I

988
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: feel like we're thinking differently about this, Like I almost

989
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: feel like this was a joke, like a gimmick. Somebody

990
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: slapped us together and they dropped it on the water

991
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: just to prove it floats and take a few funny photos.

992
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: But you couldn't call it a serious sound craft. No,

993
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: but Tony didn't make a good point in his email.

994
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: He said, how could you possibly get a b u

995
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: I if you're at home, it's a no. That is

996
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: a sound although I think that this has probably been

997
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: settled case law when it comes to house boats. But

998
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't dug into that one. Yeah,

999
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: and fun follow up fact, Okay, I I recently re

1000
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: click the link and don't you know it's sold. Somebody

1001
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: slapped down THEO and is now the proud owner of

1002
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: the win a Boto. I would honestly buy that person

1003
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: a six pack for their inaugural maiden voyage. If that

1004
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: person is listening, please reach out to us because we'd

1005
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: love to know how progress is coming. We want to

1006
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: know anyway, Tony, thank you for sending the win a

1007
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: boato our way, and to the rest of you, please

1008
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: keep the sale bin submissions coming. Uh see some fishing

1009
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: related nonsense for sale online where you live. Fire those

1010
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: links to bent at the meat eater dot com. Sadly, though,

1011
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: it is creeping in on that time of year when

1012
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: we're all forced to win arize our winter botos. But

1013
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: if your glasses have full person it's it's not all bad.

1014
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: You know, win arizing the winter botos let's a pain

1015
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: in the guest. Uh. And this this episode, in a way,

1016
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: is kind of like a changing of the season. We

1017
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: started out with dry flies, and we know the hatches

1018
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: are dwindling. But if you're a streamer junkie, and lord

1019
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: knows there are too many of you out there these days,

1020
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: listen up because we've got a tackle hack from our

1021
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: buddy and streamer guru, Brian Wise of fly Fishing the

1022
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: Ozarks that we promise will up your game when you

1023
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: finally put the October catus away and break out the

1024
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,479
Speaker 1: sex dungeons and uh. Side note those are actual fly names,

1025
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: so please don't flood me with hate mail. I didn't

1026
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: make that up. I'm getting hats coming from inside the

1027
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: city like the flood. Today, we've got a tackle hack

1028
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: from a extremely good friend of mine. Most of you

1029
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: probably know him, Brian Wise of fly Fishing the Ozarks,

1030
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: the streamer o g who. As as far as I'm concerned,

1031
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: you've you've popularized streamer fishing in this country. Agree or

1032
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: disagree to totally disagree. No, Kelly, Kelly Gallup might have

1033
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: tied him first, but you made him cool. Okay, No,

1034
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: anybody can. Anybody can put stupid music to fly tying videos,

1035
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: and anybody can do that. So you don't actually like

1036
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: the scrill x music what you're saying, not at all. No,

1037
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: I kind of hated well. Aside from tying them beautifully,

1038
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: you are also a guide in uh Missouri. I've been

1039
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: doing that for a long time and uh kind of

1040
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: by default, whether you want to be or not, you

1041
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: are the streamer dude, which means that we need a

1042
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: juicy streamer fishing tip from you for all the meat

1043
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: chuckers out there, and god, they're almost too many of

1044
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: these days, aren't there. But I was gonna say, I

1045
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: was gonna say, if you really are the guy the

1046
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: popularized streamer fishing, I kind of want to kick you

1047
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: in the nuts because ago ten years ago, like it

1048
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: was just me and a couple of the dudes doing it,

1049
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: and now it's every bro with a flat brim and

1050
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: a drift boat ahead of me being like, bro, you're

1051
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: ripping meat or what? So if if it was you,

1052
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: Bryan and I'm not saying it was Joe Is, but

1053
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: if it was you, we may not be friends. They

1054
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: got an eight weight in one hand in a Brian

1055
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: Wise video going in the other on their smart on

1056
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: their cell phone race. But you know, uh, as we've

1057
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: learned from you and many others, streamer fishing is certainly

1058
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: not mindless. There is craft and a lot of technique

1059
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: to it. So what do you got for us, man?

1060
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: What's something that you've learned is critical in the game? Right?

1061
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: So you know a lot of times when you when

1062
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: people think streamer fishing, and your mind immediately goes to

1063
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: big flies and sinking lines. I mean, that's just kind

1064
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: of the way it goes. So several years ago, sinking

1065
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: lines equaled like level leaders, you know, everybody was just

1066
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: everybody would just say, like, I need a three ft

1067
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: section of sixteen pound tests. And this is where I disagree.

1068
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: This is where this is where I kind of disagree.

1069
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: You do I do? I totally do? All right? All right,

1070
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to sell you, Miles. Do

1071
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: I have to sell you on this? I don't know

1072
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: about selling, but I'm very curious to hear your your

1073
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: rationale and explore again. I'm sure you're probably right. I

1074
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: just want to understand it better because I'm probably doubt it.

1075
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: Um So, what we see so many times is we'll

1076
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: have an eat within two or three seconds tops of

1077
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: the fly landing right on the bank. Okay, So so

1078
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: you can you can lay a fly on the bank

1079
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: and before you have a clue what's going on, you

1080
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: already see a brown in the water shaking its head

1081
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: and it's on. It's there. Um So, what we need

1082
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: is a fly to turnover all the way we need

1083
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: to fly to straighten out. We need everything. I mean,

1084
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: in a perfect world, man, you can make a hundred

1085
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: foot cast and that last four or five ft turns

1086
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: over beautifully. But it doesn't always do that with a

1087
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: big fly and level line. So when you put like

1088
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: a fifteen to twenty section of of thirty to forty

1089
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: five pounds, mono, I'm still kind of a bunno guy,

1090
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: but um mono, on the end of that sinking line,

1091
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: what you have is just a little bit of extra

1092
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: taper for lack of better word, to help turn over

1093
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: that fly. So so you don't run into those those

1094
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: those times where you have a little bit of pile

1095
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: that ended up happening right at the end of the

1096
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: cast um on a level line, and you're watching that

1097
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: brown's headshake and you can't come tight. So that's my thing.

1098
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: So it's an insurance policy really for those those ones.

1099
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: And it's just about basically staying a straight on that

1100
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: fly from the second it hits down exactly miles. How

1101
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: wrong do you feel right now? I mean, are we

1102
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: comparing it to like a normal everyday conversation with my

1103
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: wife wrong, or like I've really really screwed something up

1104
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: and in like all my life choice is wrong. I'm

1105
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: gonna say it's more on the normal every day side.

1106
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: My takeaway on this is that there's very little margin

1107
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: for error when you're talking about like that one fish

1108
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: that you want to get, and when you're throwing big flies,

1109
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: you're really after that one fish. And so what I

1110
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: hear you saying, Brian is do everything you possibly can

1111
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: to maximize your ability to come tight to that and

1112
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: that this even it might it might only get you

1113
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: a couple of extra inches, but those inches might be

1114
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: the difference between being successful and not being successful. I

1115
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: think that's a valid point, and we can and we

1116
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: can all use a few extra inches at all times

1117
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: every chance I get yes, we are about at a

1118
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: time here on bent, which brings us to the end

1119
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: of the line. The segment that leaves you with a

1120
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: better sense of what to cast this weekend based on

1121
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: historical data and generally are worthless instincts. So this week

1122
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,479
Speaker 1: Miles is going to bring it home with a nod

1123
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: to an o G metal with some bling and also

1124
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: managed to work in cocaine Lake trout Zell and something

1125
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: the entire province of Ontario should feel good about. Well,

1126
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: that's not allowed enough. Spoons are o G at least

1127
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: as far as fishing lures are concerned. For thousands of years,

1128
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: anglers have known that if you drag something curved and

1129
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: shining through water, good chance officiill bite it. Over time,

1130
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: though spoons have become pretty refined. You can find innumerable

1131
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: permutations suited to specific situations and species, but certain spoons

1132
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: have become iconic and modern tackle. And while I'm sure

1133
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: we'll cover some of the big ones eventually in this segment,

1134
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with a slightly lesser known classic, the

1135
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: Red Eyed Wiggler. The defining characteristic of this spoon is

1136
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: right there in the name it has two ruby red eyes.

1137
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: These eyes aren't painted on, as would become fashionable later.

1138
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: The original red eye actually had large cut glass beads

1139
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: built into the body of the spoon, though the glass

1140
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: was later swapped for plastic. Of course, red eye wigglers

1141
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: were thought of as vintage even when I was a kid,

1142
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: but they're still manufactured today. I remember being pissed about

1143
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: my family going to an antique store when I was

1144
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: like ten, but then I discovered the vintage fishing tackle section.

1145
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: I stared at those old boxes and rusted hooks until

1146
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: my folks dragged me out of there carrying a slightly

1147
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: tarnished red eyed wiggler, certain that it held enough ancient

1148
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: mojo to mesmerize every fish that saw it. But I

1149
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: was wrong. I never actually caught a single thing on

1150
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: that lure, and it eventually moved from the tackle box

1151
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: to a shelf because even though I couldn't catch fish

1152
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: on it, something about it just stuck with me. It

1153
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: looked cool, but set aside my own inability to use

1154
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: this bait. Turns out, the red eyed Wiggler has a

1155
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: pretty impressive pedigree, so there's a reason I was drawn

1156
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: to it. The lure came out in manufact shared by

1157
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: the hof Schneider Corporation of Rochester, New York. The company's founder, Dr.

1158
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: Frederick J. Hof Schneider, was a local dentist with a

1159
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: penchant for invention and fishing. In ninety six, he patented

1160
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: the automatic Dental Lubricator, a device that revolutionized dentistry by

1161
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: reducing pain for patients getting their teeth thrilled. Remember this

1162
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: is the twenties. Novicaine wasn't widely used yet. I mean,

1163
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: they just got past giving people cocaine to do dentistry.

1164
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: At that point, dentists just strapped their victims down and

1165
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: dove in with foot pedal drills that got extremely hot

1166
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: as they bore through tooth and anvel. Dr Hoschneider's invention

1167
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: kept drill bits constantly wet, and that minimized heat from

1168
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: friction and pain and and all the other things that

1169
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: went along with that heat. That didn't make cavity filling painless,

1170
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: but it was a heck of a lot better than

1171
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: the hot knife method that had been doing. And now

1172
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: it seems like that's the invention hof Schneider should be

1173
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: remembered for the one that helped minimize pain suffer and

1174
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: collateral damage and dental patients. But no, it's not. He's

1175
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: remembered for a fishing lure. In fact, after a few years,

1176
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: demand for the lures grew so large that the haf

1177
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: Schneider Corporation stopped manufacturing dental equipment entirely. They went on

1178
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: to produce a whole line of Red Eyed lures, but

1179
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: the Wiggler remained their top seller and claim to fame.

1180
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: That fame was cemented in nineteen fifty two when Hubert

1181
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: Hammers caught a sixty two pound, two ounce lake trout

1182
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: from the Canadian side of Lake Superior on a wiggler.

1183
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: That fish stood as the hook and line world record

1184
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: laker for nearly twenty years and is still the Ontario

1185
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: provincial record. The hof Schneider Corporation sold manufacturing rates for

1186
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: the entire Red Eye line to Scotch game Calls in

1187
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, and then Eppinger, makers of the Daredevil Spoon,

1188
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: purchased Scotch game calls in so you can still buy

1189
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: brand new wigglers from Eppinger. And there's a whole cadre

1190
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: of Northern pike and lake trout fishermen who swear by them,

1191
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: saying that the oversized red eyes act as strike triggers,

1192
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: possibly imitating immature smallmouth bass. Me I'm still not convinced.

1193
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: I always found that these spoons had a tendency to

1194
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: roll instead of wiggle, so they had to be fished

1195
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: at just the right speed. But I think that's a

1196
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 1: met problem, not so much a wiggler problem. And really,

1197
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: who cares what I think about this lure. It's been

1198
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: in production for nearly a century and caught bigger fish

1199
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: than I've ever seen. It's the signature brainchild of an

1200
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: entrepreneur and inventor who, aside from his dental drills and

1201
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: fishing lures, also came up with new pinball machines and

1202
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: beer taps. The Wigglers more than just a fishing lure.

1203
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: It represents some of the greatest aspects of early twentieth

1204
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: century America. That's more worthy of celebration than any record fish.

1205
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: For the as view keeping track this semester, we've learned

1206
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: that Joe is one of the few men on the

1207
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: planet that actually knows what a pillow sham is. Why

1208
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: you don't hire a guide when what you really need

1209
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: as a marriage counselor and that I'm about to get

1210
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: bombarded with emails about filthy fly names and my inability

1211
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: to fish a simple spoon. Yeah, if you're digging the curriculum,

1212
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: please give us some stars and leave a review wherever

1213
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,000
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1214
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: you guys, and we've been having a blast combing through

1215
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: your emails, so please keep those coming to bent at

1216
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,040
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1217
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1218
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: coffee so you can stay up even later scrolling for

1219
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: ridiculous things to send us until next week. Remember, hook

1220
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: sets are free, but you still look stupid constantly swinging

1221
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: on nothing