Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the
Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas together again and it feels
Speaker 1: so good. And the best part is we haven't done
Speaker 1: this in a while. This episode is devoted to you
Speaker 1: getting questions from you. We put out little feelers last
Speaker 1: week about getting some questions from you, the listener, and
Speaker 1: we haven't done this in a while, and it's always
Speaker 1: it always ends up being one of our favorite episodes
Speaker 1: because we end up in places we never thought we
Speaker 1: were going to go. You have fielded these questions, correct.
Speaker 2: I've done a little narrowing down and we're kind of
Speaker 2: separating them into like work and personal, Like.
Speaker 1: Okay, some sometimes our work is personal.
Speaker 2: You know what is it ever? Not real quick? I
Speaker 2: hate that phrase. It's just it's not personal. If you
Speaker 2: everything to me about work is personal. Work is how
Speaker 2: you feed your family, yourself, it's how you live if
Speaker 2: you enjoy your job. Work is your creativity, your passion.
Speaker 2: There's nothing impersonal to work about me.
Speaker 1: And like it's just like this weird out that people invented.
Speaker 1: It's like a line people invented You're right for.
Speaker 3: When they're spiring or someone or something.
Speaker 1: It's not personal, man, it's just business. It's like you
Speaker 1: can say, I know this is personal for you, but
Speaker 1: it was a business decision we had to make. That's
Speaker 1: the new line. Yeah, of course it's personal to you.
Speaker 1: I just ruined your livelihood, but I don't even know
Speaker 1: how you're paying your mortgage next month. It's it's not personal.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, Yeah, so I'm abolishing that phrase.
Speaker 2: But I do believe in sometimes the separation of church
Speaker 2: and state, and in this case, we are separating a
Speaker 2: business from personal questions real quick. So, like I said,
Speaker 2: we've narrowed them down. We're going to start with the
Speaker 2: personal and then we'll get into the business. So I'm
Speaker 2: just going to dive right in. You know what, but
Speaker 2: this is relevant. Claudia asked you two do a lot together.
Speaker 2: How do you know when you need space? And that's true.
Speaker 2: We'd spend a lot of time together between work and personal.
Speaker 1: Let me brag on LZ and this will get to
Speaker 1: your answer, Claudia of how you know, Lauren. And this
Speaker 1: happens in relationships, especially in marriage, when you are living
Speaker 1: together and inseparable and your lives are intertwined. I have
Speaker 1: been weighing down the scales of this relationship pretty heavy lately,
Speaker 1: meaning the Harrison side of the family has been pretty needy.
Speaker 1: There was a death in the family, there was a
Speaker 1: medical emergency on top of that death, there was a wedding,
Speaker 1: There was back to this medical emergency that needed to
Speaker 1: be dealt with. It did, thank God. There was just
Speaker 1: several things work, stuff that had to do predominantly with
Speaker 1: me or my family, and LZ was there every step
Speaker 1: of the way. God bless her. It's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons I love her. She's so caring and just stood
Speaker 1: by me through thick and thin. I leaned on her.
Speaker 1: And it was not equal. You know how they say,
Speaker 1: you know a marriage should be equal. It's not all
Speaker 1: the time. Maybe at the end of the day, when
Speaker 1: we total this up, it will be. But right now,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four has not been fair. It has not
Speaker 1: been equal. But I also saw that Lauren was getting
Speaker 1: to the end of her rope and that she needed
Speaker 1: a mental health break from my family and me, and
Speaker 1: not in a bad way. She just needed to recharge
Speaker 1: the batteries, and so we both felt it. We actually
Speaker 1: discussed it, and you had a little getaway, and so
Speaker 1: I think it's just something you feel. But also I
Speaker 1: just wanted to say thank you, because my god, you've
Speaker 1: been amazing so far this year.
Speaker 3: Well thanks Sonny.
Speaker 2: I mean, your family is my family, and I know
Speaker 2: that you love my family, and if the situations were reversed,
Speaker 2: you would have been doing all the same stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I think there was just a lot going on,
Speaker 2: and I said, I need like three days with my family,
Speaker 2: with my mom and my sister where I can totally
Speaker 2: be myself, where I can just completely and fully relax
Speaker 2: as you kind of only can around the people who
Speaker 2: know you the best. And you also like took those
Speaker 2: through or three days I was gone and we're kind
Speaker 2: of by yourself, like played golf, so we needed a
Speaker 2: little recharge.
Speaker 1: Went to a movie alone. Yeah I did. I did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just took some me time.
Speaker 3: And you know what we kind of do that day
Speaker 3: and day out.
Speaker 2: Really, I mean sometimes I'll say I'm going to go,
Speaker 2: you know, go to home Goods for a little while
Speaker 2: and just have some time alone, or I'm going to go,
Speaker 2: you know, you go play golf. And I think we're
Speaker 2: just really communicative about like and also okay with the
Speaker 2: fact that we spend a lot of time together and
Speaker 2: I'm never offended if you.
Speaker 3: Go have a little time away from me and vice versa.
Speaker 1: So hopefully that helps I. So the problem is there's
Speaker 1: no definite moment, Mark. I think it's just something you
Speaker 1: feel and you both need, and you just need to
Speaker 1: be respectful of.
Speaker 3: It's a good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, it's a good thing, both to spend
Speaker 2: time together and to spend time apart. It's all about
Speaker 2: knowing how much each other needs and talking about it.
Speaker 1: I missed the heck out of you, and I couldn't
Speaker 1: wait to pick you up from the airport.
Speaker 3: I know, I like missing you a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because when I look back at our relationship
Speaker 2: in the beginning, we spent very little time together when
Speaker 2: we first started dating, like, we were both working a ton,
Speaker 2: both traveling for work a ton, and then the pandemic
Speaker 2: changed that really quickly.
Speaker 1: It was something that I aspired to and you and
Speaker 1: I ever never really talked about this. It's something I
Speaker 1: spent so much time alone. I was lonely, Like I'll say,
Speaker 1: like when I was shooting The Bachelor Bachelorett and all
Speaker 1: those shows, I was pretty lonely. Yes, I was with Crewe,
Speaker 1: I had friends on there. I spent time filling my time,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't filling my soul and feeding my soul.
Speaker 1: And I always thought, I'm really going to relish the
Speaker 1: moment when I find somebody I can spend my life with.
Speaker 1: At the time, I think maybe they would travel with
Speaker 1: me on the show. Obviously I've left the show, but
Speaker 1: I looked forward to having a relationship where I could
Speaker 1: really spend some quality time with someone and be there
Speaker 1: and likewise they would be there with me. I have
Speaker 1: also not lost that feeling of needing a little alone time.
Speaker 1: But I was so excited to find someone like you
Speaker 1: in my life that I could really dive into and
Speaker 1: they dive into me.
Speaker 2: There's this moment that I always think of. And I
Speaker 2: don't remember who season you were filming, but we hadn't
Speaker 2: been dating that long, and you were in France, You're
Speaker 2: in Paris. It was like, I think, right before Notre
Speaker 2: Dame caught fire.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yeah, I was. I forget I'll think of
Speaker 1: it when you're right, because I sent a picture of
Speaker 1: me riding the bike in front of Notre Dame. It
Speaker 1: was like a month or so before it caught on fire.
Speaker 2: So what sticks out to me about that story and
Speaker 2: why it's always stuck with me, is that you and
Speaker 2: I had just started dating, and i'd interviewed you for
Speaker 2: the show, but I didn't really know what your life
Speaker 2: was while you were filming the show, and you were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I miss you. I'm just doing a bike ride alone
Speaker 2: in Paris right now.
Speaker 3: And I thought like, that's really sad. And I'm not
Speaker 3: like saying your life was sad.
Speaker 2: But you know, it looks from the outside you're in
Speaker 2: Paris and you're working on this really cool job. But
Speaker 2: you know, even though you had the crew with you,
Speaker 2: they were filming something then you weren't part of that
Speaker 2: scene in that moment.
Speaker 1: I think it was Ari season because I think we
Speaker 1: put the girls on the boat on the river. They
Speaker 1: stayed on the river. Would that be wrong?
Speaker 3: I went, we weren't dating during Ari nevermind, So I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: But I remember the dignificance. But yeah, I stayed at
Speaker 1: the Hotel de Creon, uh there in the square, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite hotels, and yeah, I was solow.
Speaker 3: And it just stuck out to me that what really
Speaker 3: matters is that you.
Speaker 2: Know, you didn't have somebody to share that moment with.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter where you are, what you're doing.
Speaker 2: You know that that is what's most important in the end.
Speaker 2: And so even in those times when we are like
Speaker 2: if we have spent two, you know, a lot of
Speaker 2: time together something, I'm just always grateful that I wouldn't,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just grateful that we have each other
Speaker 2: to spend time with.
Speaker 3: Period. I'd rather get a little sick of you than
Speaker 3: miss you, you know.
Speaker 1: And since then we've done Paris and it was a
Speaker 1: whole Seriously, it was a whole different experience walking the
Speaker 1: streets with you and you know, getting a bag at
Speaker 1: and doing all the silly Parisian awesome things.
Speaker 2: Are you making me wonder if I'm remembering that wrong? No, Like,
Speaker 2: did you just tell me about the story later when
Speaker 2: we started dating?
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't what we were taking I know
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: This is why court testimonies are of witnesses are unreliable. Okay,
Speaker 2: another question from Debbie. Does your age difference ever come
Speaker 2: into play? I guess she means, is it ever like
Speaker 2: a factor in our lives?
Speaker 1: I haven't felt it, have you, I really? I mean, sometimes,
Speaker 1: of course they have. Well sometimes in conversations it comes
Speaker 1: up like things that I lived through and things that
Speaker 1: I witnessed and enjoyed some she wasn't even alive for,
Speaker 1: So you know, it comes into play like that. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's I've never thought of it as affecting
Speaker 1: our relationship.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by
Speaker 2: the term affecting. I mean, I like, does it ever
Speaker 2: come into play every single day all the time. You
Speaker 2: have kids in college that I would only be my
Speaker 2: kids biologically if I was a young teenage mom. So yeah,
Speaker 2: like there are age difference comes into play, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm I came into your kids' lives and they were
Speaker 2: like older kids. None of my friends my age have
Speaker 2: kids in college.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: That's a factor we just felt with like some medical
Speaker 2: stuff with you know, your family, Like your parents are
Speaker 2: older than my parents. I mean that's a difference just
Speaker 2: in the like kind of the discussions that we have
Speaker 2: and kind of how we support family. Our families are
Speaker 2: in different life stages, And I would think it comes
Speaker 2: back the other way too, Like my little sister and
Speaker 2: my little brother will probably have kids at some point,
Speaker 2: and then you're going to have really young nieces and nephews.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll you know what, that'll maybe line up with
Speaker 3: us becoming grandparents, which will be.
Speaker 1: Good nephews, yeah, and grandkids kind of simultaneously.
Speaker 2: God have the kids. I don't want to be like
Speaker 2: a grandmother by forty.
Speaker 3: I'm not ready.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it comes into factor in those ways,
Speaker 2: but not in a way of like that it's a negative.
Speaker 2: It's just different and it's something to you know, talk through,
Speaker 2: but also like it can be a really good thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, I loved that the kids were older when
Speaker 2: I met them. I think I've done better with older
Speaker 2: kids than I like.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would have loved your kids if they
Speaker 2: were younger. But it's been really cool to you know,
Speaker 2: join in on their college life and all that. And
Speaker 2: I kind of, you know, I don't know, I guess
Speaker 2: got to miss out in some of the really tough
Speaker 2: younger years of driving kids to soccer practice and all that.
Speaker 3: I came in for some fun stuff.
Speaker 1: Miss the diapers. That's the good part. Miss miss the diapers.
Speaker 1: Here for the frat parties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, do you think it comes into play.
Speaker 1: Probably not as much. Yeah, I don't think about it
Speaker 1: very often. Sometimes it comes up again in our conversations.
Speaker 1: But you also put you also have very eclectic old
Speaker 1: taste music, movies and stuff like that, so it's like
Speaker 1: it's kind of seamless.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that the age difference is really
Speaker 2: what it's all about. If you're embarking on a relationship
Speaker 2: with someone who's not the same age as you, is
Speaker 2: a maturity difference, because I also know a lot of
Speaker 2: people who like are older than you and are super immature,
Speaker 2: people who have never analyzed themselves, who have never like
Speaker 2: let their life experiences affect them, who are stunted in
Speaker 2: some ways. Or I know people who are young and
Speaker 2: are incredibly mature. I mean, you know, people tell me,
Speaker 2: I think at a simple level, people tell me I'm
Speaker 2: an old soul a lot, and I think that you
Speaker 2: are a very you know I probably the show, probably
Speaker 2: The Bachelor, in a lot of ways, kept you, like
Speaker 2: really young and vibrant, like you were always helping twenty
Speaker 2: something's fine love.
Speaker 1: Right, Well it was, I laughed. It was always days
Speaker 1: to confuse, you know. The McConaughey line of you know,
Speaker 1: I keep getting older, they stay the same age. It's
Speaker 1: like the you know, the Bachelor Bacherette people stayed the
Speaker 1: same age. They were always in their twenties and maybe
Speaker 1: around thirty and that was about it. And so they
Speaker 1: I always kind of got that that whatever that generation was,
Speaker 1: for twenty years, I stayed in that generation.
Speaker 3: How old do you feel?
Speaker 1: Oh good question in my forties? Do you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I feel in my.
Speaker 1: Fifties and it still doesn't bother me. But it baffles me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: age doesn't bother me at all. But I definitely don't
Speaker 1: feel and I think of in my fifties that the
Speaker 1: next big milestone would be sixteen. I'm like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: that's not a thing.
Speaker 3: Are gonna wow?
Speaker 1: I mean someday hopefully, knock on wood. But I definitely
Speaker 1: feel like I am still. I don't feel like when
Speaker 1: people go, oh, I feel like I'm in my twenties,
Speaker 1: as I don't.
Speaker 2: And thank god, Yeah, people like I knew a lot
Speaker 2: of people had an issue with turning thirty.
Speaker 3: I never did.
Speaker 2: I was like so excited for my thirties and I've
Speaker 2: loved my thirties so much. I'm thirty six. I feel
Speaker 2: early thirties, and I think it's because of the pandemic.
Speaker 2: I feel like the pandemic was this weird time stop
Speaker 2: that like threw off life and threw off my like
Speaker 2: where every I thought everything was going to be you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So like you're like in your early forties and I'm
Speaker 2: in our early thirties, our age gap isn't even that big.
Speaker 3: That's right, exactly, Okay.
Speaker 2: Barry asks Chris, how would you let Lauren know if
Speaker 2: you didn't like one of her friends? And she says,
Speaker 2: and vice versa for Elsie. So she wants to know,
Speaker 2: how would we tell somebody if we didn't like their friends?
Speaker 3: And you know, have we done that?
Speaker 1: I would say blunt, but that has that has an
Speaker 1: interesting connotation to it. When you say blunt, you think
Speaker 1: it's like a no holds barred I'm just gonna call
Speaker 1: it like it is, and you know, her feelings be damned.
Speaker 1: I would be blunt with your feelings very much taken
Speaker 1: into consideration of you've chosen this person to be in
Speaker 1: your life. You clearly care about them, they mean something
Speaker 1: to you, or we wouldn't be having this discussion about
Speaker 1: them being a friend, But I also think it's important
Speaker 1: to share your perspective on that person. So I guess
Speaker 1: if politely blunt is a phrase, that's how I would be,
Speaker 1: And that's actually how I have been about someone in
Speaker 1: your life that was close to you. So you know,
Speaker 1: I've shared some of my feelings about that person.
Speaker 3: And I think I've done the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was, and you have done the same
Speaker 1: for me. You were, you were bluntly polite as well.
Speaker 1: You took my you know, you got to take the
Speaker 1: person's feelings into consideration. If I just like, even if
Speaker 1: you just jump on me, it's like a teenage kid, right,
Speaker 1: We're immediately going to get our de up. We're immediately
Speaker 1: going to defend that person. And you might even go
Speaker 1: the opposite direction and pull them even closer to you,
Speaker 1: and you don't want that.
Speaker 2: I also think, like, are you coming from a place
Speaker 2: of worrying about your partner right? That person's effect on them?
Speaker 2: Like what this means in their lives? I mean, to me,
Speaker 2: our friends should always make us better, and who someone
Speaker 2: you're dating surrounds themselves with is like the biggest indicator
Speaker 2: to me of so many things, Like I you know,
Speaker 2: I look back at other relationships, and I should have
Speaker 2: noticed more that those people didn't have a great group
Speaker 2: of people around them. And you know, if someone you're
Speaker 2: dating is hanging out with people who are like behaving
Speaker 2: in a certain kind of way, let me tell you,
Speaker 2: they're probably doing the same thing, even if they're not
Speaker 2: telling you. So I think that's indicative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if if it's actually true. The
Speaker 1: you know, you're the sum total of the five closest
Speaker 1: people in your world. But it's definitely has an impact.
Speaker 1: It's definitely relative, you know, definitely relates and is important
Speaker 1: too who you surround yourself with. And I agree there
Speaker 1: is a difference too of I just don't love this person.
Speaker 1: They're not great as opposed to I think they're harming you.
Speaker 1: I think they are bad for you. Yeah, they're bringing
Speaker 1: you down. That's I think there's a difference there. You
Speaker 1: might have to be a little stronger if that was
Speaker 1: the case.
Speaker 2: This is a fun question from another Lauren, did anyone
Speaker 2: get cut off from the bar at your wedding?
Speaker 1: We all did a true story. We all got cut off,
Speaker 1: like like we were all at the waste Management golf
Speaker 1: tournament this last weekend. In Phoenix.
Speaker 2: We ran out of tequila, the Sambre tequila, which we love.
Speaker 2: If you haven't tried it, we love Samprey tequila.
Speaker 1: Go to Tequila Samprey. It might be hard to find,
Speaker 1: go online, ask your liquor store for it. It's really good.
Speaker 3: And it was so good that we literally ran out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we had a bunch. I mean we had
Speaker 1: a bunch. Now, there was a faux pas. I brought
Speaker 1: kind of an emergency box of tequila and I put
Speaker 1: it in the grooms room and I told a couple
Speaker 1: of people, Hey, should we run out, which I don't
Speaker 1: think we will because we have a massive amount, go
Speaker 1: back in there and grab a few extra bottles, and
Speaker 1: somehow we ran out. Nobody got the message. I didn't know,
Speaker 1: and but I think it was probably for the best.
Speaker 1: I think we were all pretty pickled and having a
Speaker 1: good time. I don't think what we anticipated is how
Speaker 1: many shots would be going out the door, and that
Speaker 1: really burns through the supply pretty quick.
Speaker 2: It could have taken a turn. Yes, so I think
Speaker 2: it was good that we ran out.
Speaker 1: We had we had the wonderful TIFFs, treats, cookies, and
Speaker 1: everyone kind of leaned into the milk and cookies and
Speaker 1: less tequila towards the end of the night probably saved
Speaker 1: a lot of us.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know there were people and it was
Speaker 2: just like it wasn't bachelor people, but like there was
Speaker 2: like a breakup that happened at the wedding like there.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're like some stuff went down. So I
Speaker 2: think that running out of the tepical wedding stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you gotta have some stories out of.
Speaker 1: It, but stuff they kind of filtered back to us,
Speaker 1: you know, weeks later.
Speaker 2: If you haven't tried at cm bray s I E
Speaker 2: M P R E so good, you'll run out of it.
Speaker 1: So that's the taglines. Yeah we did too.
Speaker 2: I'm going to transition. Let's get to work. Here's some
Speaker 2: questions a little more leaning into our work lives. Number one,
Speaker 2: who is a dream guest you'd like to have on
Speaker 2: the podcast? From Isa is the question.
Speaker 1: Do you have somebody in mind? I mean my dream
Speaker 1: dream guest, dream dream bottom.
Speaker 3: Oh you love you too.
Speaker 1: If I getting into the craziness, I actually would love
Speaker 1: And this is not our show and so it's not
Speaker 1: really ever political. I would love to have all of
Speaker 1: the presidential candidates on I would love to have RFK.
Speaker 1: I would love to have Biden. I would love to
Speaker 1: have Trump. I would love to have vi Vaiku. I
Speaker 1: would love to have I would love to do a
Speaker 1: series of shows with all the candidates.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, put them in the hot seat.
Speaker 1: Yes, that to me would be fascinating. I love that
Speaker 1: very much. It's very interesting to me. I followed the
Speaker 1: politics and I love listening to these people speak and spin, and.
Speaker 3: You do have that newsy side to you.
Speaker 1: I would really enjoy doing that. It's twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: election year. Maybe we'll start doing that.
Speaker 2: Listen, President Trump, you did speak about the Bachelor's ratings.
Speaker 2: Remember when he talked about the Bachelor during the pandemic. Yes,
Speaker 2: he was like, these conferences are getting ratings like the
Speaker 2: Bachelor big, bigger than the Bachelor.
Speaker 1: And they're like, no, no, no, sir, you're you're wrong.
Speaker 1: Actually we dwarfed you. And honestly, it wouldn't be to
Speaker 1: like give you my opinion. I would just love to
Speaker 1: let these people talk.
Speaker 2: Here's a one that I have never asked you from Kristen.
Speaker 2: How would you feel if your kids, Josh or Taylor
Speaker 2: wanted to go on a reality show.
Speaker 1: I've talked a little bit about this because people often,
Speaker 1: you know, when they would ask about my daughter, it'd
Speaker 1: be like, would you ever let her be on the
Speaker 1: Bachelor Bachelrette back in the day, And the answer was, yes,
Speaker 1: look I have. And now we have raised these kids
Speaker 1: and I think we've instilled in them the values, the confidence,
Speaker 1: the wisdom go do you you make your own decisions? Work,
Speaker 1: play life. You know who you are responsible for and
Speaker 1: responsible to now, and so I totally trust them to
Speaker 1: make good decisions. And if that involved reality TV, by
Speaker 1: the way, I don't think it ever will, because neither
Speaker 1: one of them really seem inclined to do so. But
Speaker 1: sure knock yourself out from Ashley.
Speaker 2: Does the Bachelor Bachelorette actually get to pick who goes
Speaker 2: on the one on ones? Or does production shoes You've
Speaker 2: been asked this many times.
Speaker 1: Both you know it's it's You can even put a
Speaker 1: percentage on it that it's fifty to fifty because it
Speaker 1: depends on the season, depends on the storyline. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of bartering and negotiating that goes on with the
Speaker 1: Bachelor Bacherette. It depends on if we needed a storyline
Speaker 1: to be pushed, or sometimes it was we need a
Speaker 1: girl to be exposed and she's not good for you,
Speaker 1: and so you need to go on to one on
Speaker 1: one dates. You can see that. So sometimes you're reluctant
Speaker 1: because you're like, well, I'm not really into Lauren, but
Speaker 1: we wanted you to go on a date because you
Speaker 1: needed to make a decision. Because these people can't just
Speaker 1: stay on the show. So sometimes we would do it
Speaker 1: for drama, sometimes for the best interest of the Bachelor batcherette.
Speaker 1: So a lot went into play week by week. Who
Speaker 1: went on dates, why, who was on the group dates together,
Speaker 1: the two on ones, et cetera. So there's not really
Speaker 1: a clearcut percentage on that, but definitely it goes back
Speaker 1: and forth.
Speaker 2: From Amy, do you not watch The Bachelor now because
Speaker 2: it triggers you?
Speaker 1: I don't know if that is fair. The reason I
Speaker 1: don't watch is it was my job, it was my livelihood,
Speaker 1: and it was really my life. I mean that's what
Speaker 1: I did three sixty five. I was involved in that show.
Speaker 1: I mean, there really wasn't a day that went by
Speaker 1: where I wasn't doing something for it. Maybe Christmas, Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve or something, but it was really a very intensive
Speaker 1: job that took up a lot of my life and
Speaker 1: my emotion and my energy. And so to watch it
Speaker 1: now it just I watched it back then, not really
Speaker 1: for enjoyment. I wasn't really watching it because it was
Speaker 1: fun for me. I was watching it because it was
Speaker 1: my life and my job and it's what I needed
Speaker 1: to do. So it just doesn't make sense because now
Speaker 1: I know how the sausage is made, I know how
Speaker 1: it shot. I could probably tell you by the shot
Speaker 1: who's directing that day, who the photographer is, maybe even
Speaker 1: who audio is. I'm looking at the art department, how
Speaker 1: the room is set up. I mean, I've seen it all.
Speaker 1: So once you kind of seen behind the curtain and
Speaker 1: you helped him that curtain, it just doesn't It doesn't
Speaker 1: bring me the enjoyment that other shows do.
Speaker 2: Right, well, yeah, when you were still on, I mean
Speaker 2: you watched it so you knew, like for interviews and
Speaker 2: like you know exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would get it. I would get it was a
Speaker 1: screener and I would quickly go through it because obviously
Speaker 1: I'd already know. I knew what happened because I was
Speaker 1: on the date or what have you. And so Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would watch it to see what the editors came
Speaker 1: up with and the storyline we were pushing, and yeah,
Speaker 1: so a lot went into it that it wasn't just
Speaker 1: for my own enjoyment.
Speaker 2: Liz asks, can we start a petition to make Jason
Speaker 2: Tarctick the Bachelor or would you not want.
Speaker 3: That for him?
Speaker 1: Oh? That's a tough question, because if I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it would be he would
Speaker 1: be great at it. I think he would be a
Speaker 1: very good bachelor. And I'm doing air quotes that you
Speaker 1: can't see because it's a podcast. Figure, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that that show per se it was good would
Speaker 1: be good for him. I think a show like that
Speaker 1: where he is finding love publicly could work for him.
Speaker 1: Maybe a different show, whatever that may be. What do
Speaker 1: you think? You know Jason as well as I do.
Speaker 2: I love Jason, I've always loved I think Jason's a
Speaker 2: great guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that he's really in a place where he's
Speaker 2: like ready, I mean, he talks a lot about when
Speaker 2: we've talked to him, he talks a lot about like
Speaker 2: the age that he's at and like, you know, he
Speaker 2: he knows that he wants to find something really real.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, he's got that ripped revenge pod.
Speaker 2: Gaing the Bachelor feels like it would be like maybe
Speaker 2: a step backwards to me, like, yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 2: like he's he was a contestant, he's done that. It's
Speaker 2: been a minute, Like I would want kind of the
Speaker 2: next thing for him. But I think Jason is very
Speaker 2: beloved and great TV.
Speaker 1: That was a nice way of saying. I didn't want
Speaker 1: it to have a negative connotation and I didn't want
Speaker 1: to say, like, oh, the show's not good. I agree.
Speaker 1: I think maybe that would just be a step back
Speaker 1: for him into something that got him to where he
Speaker 1: was that he got, you know, in that relationship that
Speaker 1: he broke away from. So maybe a fresh start somewhere else.
Speaker 1: I agree. Thank you for the question.
Speaker 2: Sandy is asking do you think the Bachelor franchise will
Speaker 2: go off air sooner rather than later?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It has a lot of legs left.
Speaker 1: You know, Paradise is being not they're not saying being canceled,
Speaker 1: but from producers and people that I've talked to, it's
Speaker 1: being put on the shelf. However you want to describe
Speaker 1: that might be for a season might be for a year,
Speaker 1: might be indefinitely, it might be canceled. But it's definitely
Speaker 1: from what I've heard from production and people close to
Speaker 1: the show, that it's going to be on the shelf
Speaker 1: this summer. The Bachelor, Bacheorette they're doing. Okay, Golden Bachelor
Speaker 1: gave it a little shot in the arm the ratings wise,
Speaker 1: so it's still has some legs. You know, it's still
Speaker 1: a viable show for ABC, and so, you know, for
Speaker 1: the people that worked on the show. By the way,
Speaker 1: I hope it stays. Like I think it's good for
Speaker 1: reality TV. I don't think it's good when shows go
Speaker 1: away that were huge, huge, you know, parts of the industry,
Speaker 1: and so I think it's important that the show can,
Speaker 1: you know, constantly tries to redefine itself and keep going.
Speaker 1: But you know, the production's being cut down. They're trying
Speaker 1: to save money. Obviously, they're cutting days, they're cutting episodes,
Speaker 1: they're cutting hours. That's never a great thing. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're doing great, you're expanding. When you're doing bad,
Speaker 1: your contraction.
Speaker 2: So I truly can't remember if we talked about this
Speaker 2: when like we first did this podcast, and we kind
Speaker 2: of first talked about everything, but when all that stuff
Speaker 2: was happening with you and with you know, were you
Speaker 2: still going to be on the show or not and
Speaker 2: all that. Yeah, you always I was always struck by
Speaker 2: and it's really part of what made me fall for
Speaker 2: you was that your priority was always like keeping the
Speaker 2: show going because you wanted all of those people who
Speaker 2: were employed by the show to keep their jobs. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like that was always a priority for you. Was There's
Speaker 2: hundreds of people people I know who work on the
Speaker 2: show who have families, and you were always trying to
Speaker 2: just keep the show going for that reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we traveled with these people intimately, and their families
Speaker 1: usually came, you know, many times came with us. And
Speaker 1: so the wives, the husbands, the kids. It's it was personal,
Speaker 1: you know, we go back to the beginning of this
Speaker 1: when we talked about it. You know, it's not personal,
Speaker 1: it's business. It was both for us, I mean, because
Speaker 1: we all did spend so much time together. And so
Speaker 1: I know a lot of the people that are still
Speaker 1: on the show, and I wish them well, I wish
Speaker 1: them employment. You know, this is a job for them.
Speaker 1: It's how they pay their rent, it's how they you know,
Speaker 1: pay for schools for their kids and food and et cetera.
Speaker 1: And so while it's important for the industry to you know,
Speaker 1: I don't like for shows to fail. You know, when
Speaker 1: you call for a show to fail, when you wish
Speaker 1: it to fail, when you wish for people to lose
Speaker 1: their job. It's something that struck me when I was
Speaker 1: going through this and people were calling for my job,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it really struck me. You don't know
Speaker 1: me at all, you know nothing about me other than
Speaker 1: what you've seen on TV, and you're calling for my
Speaker 1: livelihood to end. That's a very very strong thing, and
Speaker 1: it's often when we're in the public eye, especially for
Speaker 1: like football coaches. You know, the Super Bowl just happened,
Speaker 1: and so people say, oh, you know the coach for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, they suck. He should be fired. Okay,
Speaker 1: that man is going to lose his job. That means
Speaker 1: they'll probably have to move, but it also means the
Speaker 1: entire coaching staff twenty thirty other people are going to
Speaker 1: lose their jobs. They're uprooted, pulling their kids out of schools,
Speaker 1: finding a new city, finding a new job. So just
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, be careful when you wish for people
Speaker 1: to lose their job, when you call for someone's job,
Speaker 1: it is a it's a livelihood and it's a life.
Speaker 1: And so you know, for me to come out and say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, mad the way the Bachelor treated me,
Speaker 1: I wish these I wish they would it would fail.
Speaker 1: I don't wish for these people to fail because it's
Speaker 1: their life.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I'll read this one, I guess is
Speaker 2: for myself. James said, Lauren, have you thought about starting
Speaker 2: Roses and Rose again but not making it about the
Speaker 2: Bachelor franchise? I did think about that many times. I
Speaker 2: think I just was like, you know, what show do
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 3: To pick to do that? If I'm going to do it.
Speaker 2: But and I had all these considerations, but the biggest
Speaker 2: thing for me was that I didn't want to create
Speaker 2: as much as like Bachelor Nation was huge and I
Speaker 2: loved being part of it, I didn't want to create
Speaker 2: something that relied solely on one other a show again
Speaker 2: on another, on someone else's work, on something that was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I just wanted I wanted to create a
Speaker 2: bigger thing next, something that wasn't as much fun as
Speaker 2: it was something that wasn't quite so small or niche.
Speaker 2: And also, I you know, I've just been thinking so
Speaker 2: much about wanting to create something on my own. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like something that is not a recap or review of
Speaker 2: what others are doing. Even though I very much enjoyed
Speaker 2: doing it and had a lot of fun with it.
Speaker 1: Well, you're incredible at it, and it's I still loved
Speaker 1: it this day when people stop us at an airport
Speaker 1: or whatever and talk about roses and rose and how
Speaker 1: much joy it brought them. Because it did. But I also,
Speaker 1: you know, you created something from scratch and obviously it
Speaker 1: was a little bit intertwined in the Bachelor world. It's
Speaker 1: okay to let that be what it was. And I
Speaker 1: think that's important in life and business and relationships, is
Speaker 1: that it's okay to celebrate that and remember that for
Speaker 1: a good thing and then move on to the next
Speaker 1: and count that as a big win. That's a big
Speaker 1: W in your column, The Bachelor is a big W
Speaker 1: in my column. That franchise. I don't need to recreate
Speaker 1: that to be successful again. I can do something else.
Speaker 1: And I think the same for you is that was
Speaker 1: a huge victory. Now onto the next, something bigger, better
Speaker 1: or brighter.
Speaker 3: Well, actually, Lynn asked, when will you share a new
Speaker 3: project that you've alluded to.
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say this month, February twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, LZ and I will drop the news of
Speaker 1: what is next, what our next chapter will look like.
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more excited for it, couldn't be more
Speaker 1: proud of it, and I can't believe it hasn't leaked
Speaker 1: out already, but it'll be coming out very soon. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think you would like to add on that note.
Speaker 2: No, I think you put it on perfectly well the
Speaker 2: last question, but you might have just answered it. Elizabeth
Speaker 2: asked what do you and LZ look forward to the
Speaker 2: most in your future together as a couple, And I'll.
Speaker 3: Answer it and say, what I look forward to is
Speaker 3: the future work we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: You know, we've had an incredible last year of moving
Speaker 2: to Austin full time, really building a world of friends here,
Speaker 2: planning two weddings, getting married, and of course we've had
Speaker 2: this incredible podcast, which I've loved doing. But the work
Speaker 2: stuff like hasn't been as full throttle by choice, you know,
Speaker 2: We've been like planning some seeds and doing some things,
Speaker 2: but really took time to like get married and that
Speaker 2: was amazing, and honestly, I had and look, I'm very
Speaker 2: grateful I got to. But you know, I've been working
Speaker 2: in news for more than ten years, and I did
Speaker 2: years where I worked overnights for years, and news is
Speaker 2: like a twenty four to seven job, and so I
Speaker 2: didn't really mind like taking a little step back and
Speaker 2: like kind of getting healthy and chilling out a little bit.
Speaker 2: But now I'm excited for us to work on a
Speaker 2: new project together and get the creativity going again.
Speaker 1: I think it's important that your priorities are allowed to
Speaker 1: change in life. For both of us, our careers were
Speaker 1: our priority, and at times it's family, at times, it's work,
Speaker 1: at times it's this. So I think it's important that
Speaker 1: things can ebb and flow. For us. Last year, we
Speaker 1: put our family in our lives up top, and we
Speaker 1: really made that a priority. Our weddings were obviously public,
Speaker 1: but that was just a small part of what was
Speaker 1: important to us, with our kids and everything else that
Speaker 1: we really really dove into, and we were able to
Speaker 1: maintain and do this podcast and other things. Like you said,
Speaker 1: But I think for both of us it's safe to
Speaker 1: say the fire is burning really hot right now to
Speaker 1: get back and do something. And I would say, my
Speaker 1: priority is not only to get back and we are
Speaker 1: going to do something very fun and that news will
Speaker 1: drop soon, but it's doing it with you. Being able
Speaker 1: to do this now with the woman I love is
Speaker 1: so exciting for me personally. I get so pumped up
Speaker 1: about just thinking about that. I can't wait.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're super lucky and that we get to work
Speaker 2: together and spend all this time together and then take
Speaker 2: breaks when we want to for a mental health No,
Speaker 2: I agree, And I'm also really glad that like we're
Speaker 2: doing it in a way that we feel good about.
Speaker 2: You know, there have been offers that have come your way,
Speaker 2: different asks for you to do different TV shows and
Speaker 2: different ideas and other jobs that you know, I know
Speaker 2: you've said no too, and we've just known that that
Speaker 2: wasn't like the way we wanted to go. So again,
Speaker 2: I feel grateful that we were able to do that,
Speaker 2: and like, at the end of the day, you got
Speaker 2: to feel good about It's more important to feel good
Speaker 2: about the job that you're taking then.
Speaker 1: And we can choose to do that now, which is wonderful.
Speaker 1: And you know, without getting too much into it, because
Speaker 1: we will do an entire podcast when this news drops.
Speaker 1: The press release will come out and then it will
Speaker 1: do a you know, correlating a podcast and kind of
Speaker 1: give you the deats. But I will just say this,
Speaker 1: the Lord works in mysterious ways, and often you're working
Speaker 1: towards a goal and sometimes you don't even know what
Speaker 1: that goal will eventually be. And we have been shown
Speaker 1: this way that's led to the most spectacular, wonderful thing
Speaker 1: that we are excited about, but we're proud of and
Speaker 1: fired up for. So it's there's a lot to be
Speaker 1: thankful for and I can't wait to share that news.
Speaker 1: And again, it'll be coming very soon, LZ. I love
Speaker 1: the Q and a's. I love doing it with you.
Speaker 1: Had a blast and always appreciate those of you who
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