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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Lake Kick is Live. It is

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. It is July second, the year of our Lord,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It is a holiday weekend. Yours truly is

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Speaker 1: about to wrap the show up for the next somewhere

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Speaker 1: between thirty minutes and two hours and then take myself

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Speaker 1: from Nashville right down to Columbus, Georgia. So it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a nice long night of driving on either

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Speaker 1: I sixty five or twenty four eighty five seventy five.

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Speaker 1: I flip a coin. I mean, when we leave the studio,

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Speaker 1: it's just as quick to go through Alabama as Georgia.

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Speaker 1: So I digress. We've got as mentioned in the chat

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Speaker 1: jam packed show, tonight, we are going to do our

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Speaker 1: little draft. It's not so little, it's actually a big draft.

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Speaker 1: But we like to draft our games of the year.

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Speaker 1: And what we like to do is we'd like to

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Speaker 1: just take a look across the landscape of college football nationally,

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Speaker 1: of course, not just regionally, and we look at the

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Speaker 1: weeks and how they of course, you can only go

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Speaker 1: to one game a week, and we draft our five

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Speaker 1: or six biggest games of the year, the ones that

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Speaker 1: if you couldn't go to any other game. You couldn't

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Speaker 1: watch any other game. These are the ones that we

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Speaker 1: want to watch. We're also going to do our mood

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Speaker 1: tracking series. We're going to start this tonight, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it again Sunday night. We're gonna do it over

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Speaker 1: few divisions, like tonight, we're going to do the SEC West.

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, we're gonna do the SEC East. And what

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Speaker 1: this is meant to do is it's meant to not

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Speaker 1: necessarily grab the headlines, because headlines are just written to

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Speaker 1: echo the vocal minority of your fan base on the

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Speaker 1: pessimistic side and the optimistic side. But the silent majority

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Speaker 1: are the eighty percent that just kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: they live their lives and they wait for the season

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Speaker 1: to show up. Those are the people who represent the

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Speaker 1: real pulse of your fan base. So if you're in

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Speaker 1: touch with those people, like we like to believe that

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Speaker 1: we are here, then we can give you a lot

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Speaker 1: better gauge on what, let's say, for example, the Texas

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Speaker 1: A and M fan base is thinking today. Notwithstanding the

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Speaker 1: necessarily someone who works in like Lincoln, Nebraska, who just

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Speaker 1: going to do that tonight. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: an email I got that I touched briefly on in

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Speaker 1: yesterday's Late Kick Extra podcast available for download Late Kick

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Speaker 1: with Josh Pate in any podcast feed that you subscribe to,

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Speaker 1: and it was asking me if I thought Ohio State

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Speaker 1: had been overrated over the past fifteen to twenty years.

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Speaker 1: I said no, but I thought I needed to give

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Speaker 1: I'll do that tonight, and then we're going to give

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Speaker 1: you some Elite eleven takeaways that was held right down

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Speaker 1: and some very welcoming reviews that I read from some

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Speaker 1: You can think right along with me here. We're going

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Speaker 1: games of the year drafting these things I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give you in order of the games that I will

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start in week two and I'm going

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Speaker 1: You remember this one last year. This was fun for me.

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Speaker 1: Last year. I didn't get to go to Austin, but

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Speaker 1: And Georgia and Alabama don't play regularly, so when they

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Speaker 1: them to play against Clemson. More on that game in

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Speaker 1: are going to work. Wonders they think they know that,

428
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Speaker 1: if not now, then in the very near future. With

429
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young, the overall top player in America coming in

430
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Speaker 1: for the last twenty four or seven sports recruiting cycle

431
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 1: at quarterback, they're set for at least another three years

432
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 1: at that position, and so they think everything's fine. I

433
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: tend to agree with that sentiment mostly across the board.

434
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: It's as simple as keeping guys on the field. If

435
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: that's all true, then it's as simple as keeping guys healthy.

436
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: That's why I've spent an inordinate amount of time when

437
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: we're talking Bama on this show, I've spent an inordinate

438
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: amount of time talking about their strength and conditioning. That's it.

439
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: That's Nick Saban had a chance to fire Pete Golding

440
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,959
Speaker 1: and hire anyone he wanted to. I'm gonna talk more

441
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: about this Sunday night. He didn't. Why do you think

442
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 1: he didn't make a move because there were no qualified

443
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: candidates out there. No, it's because we as he told

444
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: us himself when we talked to him about month and

445
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: a half ago, said, man, when we did what was

446
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: called to do, when we did what we were supposed

447
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: to do defensively, we were fine. We didn't have enough

448
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: guys who were capable of doing it. We were playing

449
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: kids out there. Physically they may not look like it,

450
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: but mentally, there were a lot of boys on the

451
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Speaker 1: field last year for Alabama, Guys that probably in typical

452
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: Alabama years are seeing mop up duty and they're seeing

453
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Speaker 1: special teams reps, but they're not on the field to

454
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: start the season calling plays at linebacker. Well, that's where

455
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: Alabama was last year. So tiptoeing with confidence. You know,

456
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: you walk on on ice. Is it thick enough to

457
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: hold my weight? I think it is, But let me

458
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: tiptoe even though you weigh the same regardless of how

459
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Speaker 1: slowly you walk down the road. At Auburn, boy, it's

460
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Speaker 1: you know, I know, I told you it's the ten

461
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Speaker 1: eighty ten rule. It's like the twenty twenty twenty, twenty

462
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Speaker 1: twenty rule. There are a lot of different segments of

463
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Speaker 1: the Auburn fan base, so I'm gonna try and pin

464
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Speaker 1: it down the best I can here. I would very,

465
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Speaker 1: very tentatively refer to the silent majority here as being

466
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Speaker 1: in show me Gus mode. Show me Gus now. I

467
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: don't think last year was a failure by any stretch

468
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Speaker 1: of the imagination. They played a really tough schedule. I

469
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Speaker 1: think they finished nine to four with the Bowl loss.

470
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,479
Speaker 1: Bowl loss probably threw me for a loop as much

471
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Speaker 1: as anything. But they're in show me Gus mode, and

472
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Speaker 1: basically it's this Basically, no one's calling hot seat for

473
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Speaker 1: him because of last year. But what they're saying is

474
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Speaker 1: was last year a step in the right direction? Or

475
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: is that about as far as we can go given

476
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Speaker 1: who we play every year with the way we currently

477
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Speaker 1: do things. And I think a lot of them feel

478
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: that way. They feel like, Okay, I mean, we're good

479
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: right now, but no one's calling us great because we're

480
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: not great. Can you evolve? Specifically offensively? Can we evolve?

481
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: I mean, you're an offensive guy. This is me the

482
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: Auburn Nation talking to Gus Malsan. Make sense of this

483
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: for me, coach, you're an offensive guy. Program is supposed

484
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: to reflect the identity of the head coach, right yet,

485
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: defense is what's kept us in the championship hunt over

486
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Speaker 1: the past several years. Why in the world are you

487
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: making five times what Kevin Steel makes. That was a

488
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: little harsh, I apologize, but I mean you think about

489
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: that a little bit. What's been the identity what's been

490
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: their calling card? What's the hallmark of Auburn football when

491
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Speaker 1: they're winning over the last four year years, it's been defense.

492
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Speaker 1: So can we evolve a little bit here? Can we

493
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Speaker 1: have an effective enough offense that you know, it doesn't

494
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Speaker 1: stall after the first ten or fifteen scripted plays? Can

495
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: we develop a quarterback in house? Bo Nicks had some

496
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: promising flashes, but he also had some very bad decisions

497
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: at times. That this game right here, that Colin's showing

498
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: you against Florida, I was on the field for that one. Eh.

499
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: There were some throws that made you go, oh good,

500
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, like that one right there, and then there

501
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: were other throws or maybe throws that should have been

502
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: made that weren't that made you go Can we be

503
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: consistent there? Can we develop our own quarterback instead of

504
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: always having to get a transfer from somewhere else? Can

505
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: we retool this offensive line? Can we maintain our status

506
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Speaker 1: as a shark. You can afford to just be a

507
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: big fish in the SEC West. You can afford to

508
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: be a big fish if you're investing fifty percent of

509
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Speaker 1: what we invest. But we're all in. We're not partially

510
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Speaker 1: in here. So we have fully invested. We do everything

511
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Speaker 1: you ask us to do. When are you going to

512
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: do it for us? Now? You look from the outside

513
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: and you say, well, geez man, I mean you're competing

514
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Speaker 1: against Nick Saban and Alabama. They're on an all time

515
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: great run. Georgia is on the precipice of a national championship.

516
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: LSU just won one. I mean, history says Auburn should

517
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 1: be an afterthought right now, and in reality they're not.

518
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: Like they're a top fifteen program every year. They don't

519
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Speaker 1: want to hear it. Oh that's true. They don't want

520
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: to hear it there. So that's where their mood is.

521
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: It's their mood. It's not what we think their mood

522
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: should be. How about Texas A and M. The time

523
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: has arrived. Time has arrived. You could say this just

524
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: as easily in the East for Florida as we say

525
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: it in the West for AMM. There's been patients you

526
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Speaker 1: talk about giving what's been asked, this fan base, this

527
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: booster class, this donor class out there. They gave everything

528
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Speaker 1: and then some that's been asked of them, and they've

529
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Speaker 1: sat back. They've created a great environment. I would challenge

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Speaker 1: you to find me a better game day atmosphere, even

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Speaker 1: when they're average than Kyle Field and College Station. One

532
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Speaker 1: of the reasons selfishly I want to see them grow

533
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: into a top ten, top five program is just I

534
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: want to see what that place is like on a

535
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Speaker 1: Saturday when they're welcoming LSU or Alabama or Auburn in there,

536
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: and they have got like a number three or number

537
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: four next to their name in the national rankings chart.

538
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: That'd be a scene. But they've done everything, and so

539
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: just as much as we were talking identity with Auburn,

540
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm an A and M fan, if

541
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Speaker 1: I'm the silent majority there, I've got patience. But I've

542
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: had patience. You know, I've given you three years now.

543
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: So this is your roster. Pretty much every player here

544
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Speaker 1: you recruited, and the ones that are here from the

545
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: previous regime you obviously like enough to have kept around her.

546
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: They would have been gone through their volition or maybe

547
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: through other means. So we've done what we've asked or

548
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: been asked to do. You got to give it to

549
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: us now because we look at their offense, the one

550
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: they ran at LSU last year, the one that carved

551
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Speaker 1: us up in our own building when we faced Alabama.

552
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: Why doesn't ours look that way? You are Jimbo Fisher.

553
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: You're a quarterback guy. You're an offensive guy. We've got

554
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: the talent, we've recruited very well, and we appreciate that.

555
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: We got to get the results. There's no reason whatsoever,

556
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: three years in and beyond now where we should be

557
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: playing the big boys and be double digit underdogs and

558
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: then have the result turn out about on par or

559
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: maybe even worse than what the point spread says it should.

560
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: Those should be dog fights. Maybe not year one, maybe

561
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: not year two, but year three. Yeah. So your trademark

562
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: is offense. Your trademark is developing quarterback. And we got

563
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: one that feels like he's been there about twenty years now,

564
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: and Kellen Mond do something with it. It is show

565
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: me time in College station for Jimbo Fisher. So that's

566
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Speaker 1: the mood tracker for the SEC West. We're going to

567
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: do the SEC East Sunday night. That one's going to

568
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun, a whole lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: All right. So Chris on Twitter the other day, let

570
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: me pull this out. I had to print it off.

571
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Speaker 1: So we do the Late Kick Extra podcast that drops

572
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: every Wednesday and Chris hit me with something and I

573
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: answered this on the podcast. But as is usually the case,

574
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: about the time I hit stop record, I think to myself,

575
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: I probably should have gone a little deeper, and on

576
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: this question, I feel like I should have gone deeper.

577
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: This is about Ohio State. I'm going to read you.

578
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: It's a little bit lengthy, but it's about a paragraph.

579
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you what Chris sent me. You tell

580
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: me what you think, I'll tell you what I think,

581
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: he says. Ohio State every year is mentioned as one

582
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: of the big dogs in college football, year in year out.

583
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me, though, that they've only won two

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00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: national titles in the last twenty years. With the way

585
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: they recruit, the way they develop talent, as evident by

586
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, is it time to dig in and

587
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: maybe talk about how underachieving they've been. I get that

588
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: winning a title is hard, but with everything from recruiting

589
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: to NFL guys they've developed, I don't think it's unfair

590
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: to expect more than two and twenty years, especially when

591
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: this is a program that for the majority of the

592
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: time has talked about every year as being a playoff

593
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: team and a national contender. All right, it's not the

594
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: first time I've ever heard that. So let me give

595
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: you my take. Nick Saban has ruined college football for

596
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Alabama's ruined college football for a

597
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: lot of people. Here's how I know. Pretend like Alabama

598
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: didn't exist for a second. Would anyone think that way?

599
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: Would anyone be suggesting to you that only two titles

600
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: in the last twenty years is under achievement. If Nick

601
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: Saban wasn't at Alabama, if they just let's just drop

602
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: him from the face of the earth, an average eight

603
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: win program per year exists where they right now exist.

604
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: If you didn't have that standard, if you didn't have

605
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: that example, and I know you do, but if you didn't,

606
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: if you just removed one thing, change one thing about

607
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: the sport, this wouldn't be considered underachievement. One title per decade.

608
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: Look historically, how many programs have pulled that off? On average?

609
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: You're averaging one title a decade. Historically, You're doing better

610
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: than like ninety eight percent of the sport is. But

611
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: we do have that example at Alabama, and so that

612
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: is what everyone is held to right now. You average

613
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: one title per decade. Though for me, I'll take it.

614
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: Here's what I care about. Though. There is a lot

615
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: of skill involved in winning a national championship. There's also

616
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of luck involved in winning a national championship.

617
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: But there's just a lot of skill involved in being

618
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: a contender every year. You got to get a little

619
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: bit of luck go your way, the bob play, the

620
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: bounce of ball play, you got to have some things

621
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: go your way. But the real skill is having yourself

622
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: in position every year. Just put yourself within striking distance

623
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: every year, and it'll happen. Won't happen every year? The

624
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: stuff Alabama does is not normal. You're not supposed to

625
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: be able to do that. Put yourself in striking distance

626
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: every year. So here's what I did. I said, let

627
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: me go back two thousand and two. That's where I

628
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: want to go back. That was their national championship they

629
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: won over Miami. I want to read you where they've

630
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: finished in the national rankings each year, starting in two

631
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: thousand and two ending in twenty nineteen. Here's where they finished.

632
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: And we're asking, by the way, how many years have

633
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: they been in contention? How many years has it been

634
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: within their grasp? How many years have they put themselves

635
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: in position. Here's where they finished, number one, number four,

636
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: number twenty, number four, number two, number five, number nine,

637
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: number five, number five, unranked three twelve, one four, six,

638
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: five three three. That's insane. That is insane. That's getting

639
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: it done. That is getting it done, and that's putting

640
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Speaker 1: yourself in position. They've won several conference championships, they've won

641
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Speaker 1: Rose Bowls. College football is a sport of streaks. This is,

642
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: at least how I think about it. Clemson's on one

643
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: right now. Bama's been on one. Like I said, the

644
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Speaker 1: lights of which you're not supposed to be able to

645
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: do for over a decade. But Clemson's a good example

646
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Speaker 1: right now. Clemson did all the right things. They recruited

647
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Speaker 1: the right way, and they got the right quarterback. And

648
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Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt them that they're in a very soft

649
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: division and very soft comps. But still they get it

650
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Speaker 1: done when it's playoff time too. But it's a game

651
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Speaker 1: of streaks. This is a sport of streaks. Streaks require

652
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Speaker 1: an elite head coach, an elite quarterback usually, and an

653
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Speaker 1: elite roster. Well, they've got all those boxes checked and

654
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Speaker 1: they have for a while. They've had all those boxes

655
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Speaker 1: checked at Ohio State, which puts you in prime position

656
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Speaker 1: to rattle off one to put up two titles, and

657
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about two titles in twenty years. Ohio State's

658
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Speaker 1: in a position right now where if they won the

659
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: next three national championships, they wouldn't be shocking. They're great

660
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: at quarterback now, they're gonna be great with the next

661
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: guy they got coming in, and if the next guy

662
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, they'll take one on the transfer market

663
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: and they'll be good. So they could double their output

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Speaker 1: of national titles over the span of like twenty four months.

665
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Speaker 1: For all we know. They're in position, and they've been

666
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Speaker 1: in position. So no, no, I don't think in the

667
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Speaker 1: least Ohio State is overrated, and I don't think in

668
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Speaker 1: the least they've underachieved. Now, the funny part is, I'll

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Speaker 1: even get some pushback from some of my Buckeye viewers

670
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Speaker 1: on that, But that's only because you insanely high standards

671
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: and expectations for your program. And I don't mind that. Okay,

672
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Speaker 1: I'm almost excluding Ohio State folks from this conversation. You're

673
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: emotionally invested in your program, Chris, I don't know who

674
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: you pull for I don't think you told me. But

675
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: let's just say you're an Arizona State fan and you

676
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: just kind of watching from a distance. If you're sitting

677
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: there saying, Ohio State, you know, a little bit overrated. No, No,

678
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: that's a great program, and they've been It's one thing

679
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: to have a five year run of greatness and then

680
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: you sink back into mediocrity. They've been great for two decades.

681
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere. The Elite eleven is finished. We

682
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: just had it here in Murphysboro, just outside Nashville, and

683
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the Elite eleven. A lot

684
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: of you were talking about this in the comment section,

685
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: a lot of you were dming me on Twitter at

686
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: late Kick Josh by the way, about this, and I

687
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: picked out three guys. There were several names that you

688
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: could choose from. We got a lot of wall to

689
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: wall coverage regarding this event on twenty four to seven Sports.

690
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: If you don't know what the Elite eleven is, it's

691
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: basically just most of the best quarterback in the country

692
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: and it's a series of events and then you have

693
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: the finals and it's just a bunch of competition. They

694
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: try and put pressure on guys, they put them in

695
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: uncomfortable positions, and you know it's it's meant to basically

696
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: weed out the elite guys from the good guys. There

697
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: aren't any bad guys at this event, but it's the

698
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks usually in the country, and so I wanted

699
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: to talk about a few here, and Barton Simmons or

700
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: Barton Simmons has done a lot of work on this,

701
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: Andrew Ivans has done a lot of work, a lot

702
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: of our guys, Steve Wolfolk's done a lot of work

703
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: on this. But I was reading the takes from Barton

704
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: and Ivans today and I was looking, for example, with

705
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: Ty Thompson, who's committed to Oregon right now. That's a

706
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: big six', four two hundred pound kit well put together

707
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: as a four star. Guy AND i look At oregon

708
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: and we always talk About. Oregon everyone. ASKS i was

709
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: asked this week on The Late Kick extra, Podcast, hey

710
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: what is it that Separates oregon right now from Like

711
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: clemson Or alabama being up there every year with? Them,

712
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: well it's. Quarterback it's, offense and it's. Quarterback you'll see

713
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: defensively this year and from now, on defense is not

714
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: going to be an issue For. Oregon they're. Stacked they

715
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: are very excited about. That it's what are you going

716
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: to have a? QUARTERBACK i, mean you may be good

717
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: enough to win The pac. Twelve what do you? Have

718
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: can you go shot for shot or does it look

719
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: like When georgia PLAYED lsu last year and they got

720
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: on the same field with an, elite top notch. Offense

721
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: they're good, defensively they just couldn't keep. Up so that's

722
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: the separation With oregon right. Now, well why is this?

723
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Important because Ty thompson is committed To. OREGON i want

724
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: to read you Something Barton simmons, said just a couple

725
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: of months into seventeen years, old he's already a very imposing.

726
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: Figure he can power it through, cutting, win make every.

727
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: Throw he's also very, athletic so we've got true dual

728
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: threat capability. Here, now this event is not really designed

729
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: to feature, that But barton, continues The oregon committ is

730
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: still an upside player more than anything. Else but the

731
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: tools he put on display In tennessee will catapult him

732
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: into new. Company so you're talking about one of the

733
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: bona fide top five or so quarterbacks In america. Here

734
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: that's the caliber that you go Into. Oregon ivan's said

735
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: about Ty, thompson there's one quarterback that's a lock to

736
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: move up in our rankings based on his. Performance it's Ty,

737
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: thompson the type of prospect that seems to be getting

738
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: better and better each time we see, him which is

739
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: exactly what you're supposed to do in the high school.

740
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: Setting i'll tell you another one that really stood out to,

741
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: me and that was Brought. Vandergriff, now this is a

742
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: guy for maybe some different reasons That i've had to focus.

743
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: On he's a five star, guy but he's he plays small.

744
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: Time competition In georgia doesn't necessarily. Matter you could be

745
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback in the history of the game and

746
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: play it in middle. School if you're, great you're. Great

747
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: but some people usually have questions when you're watching the.

748
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: Film and you've also had an injury, here a leg,

749
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: Injury so just some questions that have lingered in some

750
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: people's minds About Brock. Vandergriff now you talk To Rusty,

751
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: manzel who works for The dogs twenty four to seven

752
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: side and just Covers georgia like nobody's business and the

753
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: state Of georgia, too like nobody's. Business he's adamant like.

754
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: This dude's skills translate no matter what level you're playing.

755
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: At well at this event he validated a lot of.

756
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: That so this Is barton On Brock. Vandergriff this is

757
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: A georgia. Commit think about what Separated georgia in some

758
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: close games against big. Competition the most impressive, showcase this

759
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Is barton. Talking the most impressive showcase For vandergriff was

760
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: The wednesday accuracy workout that really wore some of the

761
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. Down his conditioning and accuracy won The Georgia

762
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: commit the event and further validated he needs to continue

763
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: to be on that short list for number one quarterback.

764
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: Candidates that is our director of recruiting telling you this

765
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: may be the best quarterback in the. Country as For Andrew,

766
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: ivans he Described Brock vandergriff's week like so Chrisp mechanics quick.

767
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: Release he looked elite in his first outing on a

768
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: national stage since injuring his. Fibulus so you got small

769
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: time competition he's playing. Against you got injury, concerns didn't.

770
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: Matter he came in here this week and this is

771
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: all about. Competition validated a lot of the things that

772
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: people suspect about, Him they just want to check those

773
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: boxes with their own eyeballs and the other. One And

774
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: i've talked about this kid several. TIMES jj, McCarthy who

775
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: was In. ILLINOIS i think he's transferred TO img, now

776
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: but he is the five Star michigan commit six to

777
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: two about one ninety. Five this is a guy that

778
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: bears a lot of, watching a lot of, watching because

779
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: if they get the right quarterback up, there And Josh

780
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: gaddis is indeed the right offensive, coordinator you got potentially

781
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 1: a new elite program At. Michigan and it didn't happen

782
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: in year, one two or three For. Harball maybe it

783
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: happens in year, five, six, seven. Eight barton ON jj,

784
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: McCarthy he was consistent and precise on Both monday And,

785
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: tuesday showcasing some high level. Throws he has the tools

786
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: and the makeup of someone that can shine at the

787
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: power five. Level SO i didn't this is my. INTERPRETATION

788
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: i didn't take the feedback on McCarthy to be quite

789
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: on the level as some of those other. Guys but

790
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: in the same conversation now and hopefully all these dudes

791
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: have a senior year to, play and IF jj, McCarthy for,

792
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: example plays AT, img no one gets worse playing AT.

793
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: IMG a lot of folks get better playing down. There

794
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: that's the best of the best in the country when

795
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: it comes to high. School so those names are specific

796
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: takeaways THAT i had AND i would encourage. You the

797
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: quarterback is the name of the game today and it

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00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: will be for the foreseeable. Future hit up twenty four Seven.

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