WEBVTT - Angela Kinsey - Pt. 1

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Angela Kinsey and I played Angela Marton.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody out there in podcast land, Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Office deep Dive. I am your host Brian Baumgartner. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>as you just heard, you will be listening to my

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Angela Kinsey. Now, let's get something straight. Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>made Angela Martin crazy back in the accountants Corner throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the entire run of the Office. But I am very

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<v Speaker 1>happy to report that Angela Kinsey and I actually became

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<v Speaker 1>very good friends on the set of the Office and

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<v Speaker 1>we are still great friends to this day, thankfully. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but we actually met many years before the Office. How Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>neither of us remembers it. Okay, So when Angela and

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<v Speaker 1>I were in college, Angela went to Baylor, I went

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<v Speaker 1>to s m U. Hail to the Red and the Blue. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the same spring break and one year we

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<v Speaker 1>both separately went to Acapulco, Mexico. Random, I know, but

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<v Speaker 1>at some point during that trip we ended up in

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<v Speaker 1>the same cab, like the the same van cab with

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of other people. And long story short, many

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<v Speaker 1>years later, back in our little corner, we figured out

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<v Speaker 1>that we met on that night in the cab in Acapulco, Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though, like I said, neither of us have any

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<v Speaker 1>memory of it. Um. But luckily for your listening pleasure today,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have a lot of great memories from our

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<v Speaker 1>ten years working together on the office. We truly were Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar and I. We were the stars of our own

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<v Speaker 1>show over in the accountant's corner. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great show. At least we thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a great show. Anyway, Please welcome my bestie Angela, Kinzie,

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<v Speaker 1>Bubble and squeak. I love it. Bubble and squeak on

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<v Speaker 1>Bubble and squeaker, cookie, every moment left over from the

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<v Speaker 1>night before. Oh, I mean I tried you were coming.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm good? How are you? How's your family?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for my Christmas car. Everybody's good. Ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>got it. I'm glad. It was so memorable. Hi guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm so low, so low. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's more about your height. Hey, Jenna was just in

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<v Speaker 1>that chair and had no issues. Well, she's taller than

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<v Speaker 1>I am. All right, I do this for a living.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what is going on? This is a microphone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it occurs to me, we have you and

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<v Speaker 1>I do this all the time together all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we already recording? I think it's gold is going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. We're always paired together to do like press

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<v Speaker 1>and always satellite tours. And because we're good together, Bud, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we are, we are. How are you good? You look good?

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<v Speaker 1>You have like a snazzy sports jacket I'm wearing us.

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<v Speaker 1>I dressed up for you. Thank you. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>mood lighting. I like what you've done with the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of got a sexy vibe. This is my first

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<v Speaker 1>day in this room, like we could be in a

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<v Speaker 1>lodge maybe like in Vegas, a Vegas lodge. Well, they

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<v Speaker 1>made it, they made it feel like home for me. Um. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to be here, Brian. I'm happy that you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun to go back and talk about this. Really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jenna and I are having so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But I I know, we knew it was a great show,

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<v Speaker 1>that we were part of something special. But getting to

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<v Speaker 1>watch it again and I'm watching it now with like

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<v Speaker 1>no agenda. I hit the mic. You're a professional. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not Agenda is the wrong word, but I'm watching it

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<v Speaker 1>now just as an audience, Like I'm not thinking about like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh did I get my line right? Or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just watching it as an audience and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>loving it and I'm just like, ah, man, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. Do you remember I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>out of order here, but do you remember when we

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<v Speaker 1>were almost fired? You mean you mean which time? The

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<v Speaker 1>time with kin Kopas, at the time when we made

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar tell a story really loud under the come one

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<v Speaker 1>where we had Oscar. Oscar gets really animated and he

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<v Speaker 1>gets worked up and he's kind of like a very

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<v Speaker 1>passionate storyteller. Yes, all right, So to set this up,

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<v Speaker 1>show is brand new. We get hired and we're out

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<v Speaker 1>in the parking lot and we're we're supporting casts. We

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<v Speaker 1>are not a big ticket item on the show. We

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<v Speaker 1>are easily replaceable. And Oscar starts telling the story very loudly,

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<v Speaker 1>very loudly, and we were This is when he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of blames me. We were sort of standing over in

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<v Speaker 1>the sun and I'm like, guys, let's go stand in

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<v Speaker 1>the shade, and I scooched us up against the wall

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<v Speaker 1>of the building, apparently right under a window where they

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<v Speaker 1>were filming, yes, and then Oscar continues the story and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes Kinsey almost coping fired because she's like, Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>over here, come down loudly under the window and we

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<v Speaker 1>got yelled at. Ken koppas himself leaned out the window

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<v Speaker 1>our director and said, hey, guys, could you can you

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<v Speaker 1>keep it down? We're trying to film here. We're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're out of here. I have to say what I

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<v Speaker 1>learned really quickly that moment is the fight or flight

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<v Speaker 1>and all of us Oscar I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 1>meant to deer in headlights. He stepped out and looked up.

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<v Speaker 1>My ass hugged the wall. I made myself so small

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<v Speaker 1>I touched into a shadow. I don't think Ken saw me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he just saw Oscar. You went flat up

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<v Speaker 1>against a dumpster. Who probably I was like, I can

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<v Speaker 1>like stepped out and was like okay, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, um okay. Two thousand and three, Yes, before

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<v Speaker 1>anything related to the office happened. What were you doing,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man? Two thousand and three. I was working at

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<v Speaker 1>Improv Olympic Theater and I performed there anytime they give

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<v Speaker 1>me stage time, so usually about three nights a week.

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<v Speaker 1>I did improv. Um. I was in a show with

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Flannery who ended up playing Meredith on the Office,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kate Wall, Laura Kraft. Really hilarious people were on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. Rich Fulture was our only guy and the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the show was Girl Team Balls, Girl Team

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<v Speaker 1>Balls performing three nights a week. No, no, no, That

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the shows I was in. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like Sunday nights at like ten o'clock, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>really when you want to see comedy. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>had like a few other improv shows I was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was all in it. It was like my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Brian's nodding at me like nerd, but so

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing improv Olympic and I'm working. I'm working at

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<v Speaker 1>the theater and I'm performing there and then auditioning, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>auditioning like every little thing I could do. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of national commercials. Those were the days where

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<v Speaker 1>you could get a big national commercial and it would

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<v Speaker 1>like you would make a nice income, especially like I

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<v Speaker 1>just had a tiny, little one bedroom apartment. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like any big checks. Um. I had a Chevy Blazer

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<v Speaker 1>that my parents had helped me buy out of college

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<v Speaker 1>that Chevy Blazer made it until about oh gosh, around

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<v Speaker 1>Booze Cruise. I was driving back from Long Beach and

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<v Speaker 1>I made a left and my right tire made right,

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<v Speaker 1>rolled right through the intersection. Oh my god. Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>now did you know about the British Office? Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a huge fan. You're a huge fan. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was amazing. But you know, I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of British television because I grew up overseas,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, that was like I grew up on faulty

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<v Speaker 1>towers and good neighbors and all these that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sense of humor really appealed to me. Okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>get called to audition. Well, actually I knew Greg Daniels

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I was related to Greg by marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know that out there right. I've talked about it, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I just loved Greg. He was so

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<v Speaker 1>supportive of my career. He would come to my improv shows.

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<v Speaker 1>I look back on it now, Brian, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you you do too, because you have kids. They probably

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<v Speaker 1>had to get a babysitter coming to my show like I.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're in your twenties, you don't think of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I have an Amprov show at Tanna Clack

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<v Speaker 1>that Sunday. But now I think about it and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what like it takes to get out to get to

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<v Speaker 1>someone's whatever it is. So he was always so supportive,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was going to be doing the remake, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, you know, this is when you should come

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<v Speaker 1>in for you should this is kind of in your wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, okay, and I was nervous. I

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<v Speaker 1>was nervous about what that looked like in the USA

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<v Speaker 1>because I loved the British version and I was like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>are they gonna But I knew if anyone could do

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<v Speaker 1>it would be Greg because he's he is just brilliant,

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<v Speaker 1>he really is. And so you get the call and

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<v Speaker 1>you go, is there anything specifically you remember about the

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<v Speaker 1>day you went into audition. You were auditioning not for

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<v Speaker 1>Angela and I was auditioning for Pam. I remember it

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<v Speaker 1>very very well because before I went in, Greg said, Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds kind of funny saying this. Um He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not going to acknowledge you, okay, like we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know each other. He said, trust me on this.

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<v Speaker 1>If they just think you're there just like anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to serve you better. He goes, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you can do this. You know you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not going to in any way let them

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<v Speaker 1>know that I know you and you don't do the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, Okay, got it, And you don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean my poker face is horrible. So you're walking in

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, Hi stranger, Hi greg Um. But no.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked in and there was a room full of

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<v Speaker 1>people as a producer session. He was in the back corner,

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<v Speaker 1>and Um, I wore a like a pink turtleneck and

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<v Speaker 1>my hair sort of half up, half down. And I

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<v Speaker 1>had really worked hard on the scene. I felt really

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<v Speaker 1>good about it and it was going great. I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading with Phyllis and there's a moment when Michael fake

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<v Speaker 1>fires Pam in front of Ryan the Timp, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a jerk move right, and Pam calls him a jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>She starts to cry and she calls him a jerk

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<v Speaker 1>because you kind of realized that as crappy as this

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<v Speaker 1>job is, she probably needs this job. And when Phyllis

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<v Speaker 1>as Michael fake fires me, I look up and I

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<v Speaker 1>called her a jerk, but I guess I was like jerk.

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<v Speaker 1>Like everyone started laughing, and I remember in my mind

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<v Speaker 1>thinking like I don't think I'm supposed to have laugh

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<v Speaker 1>right there. So you got a laugh on the jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a laugh on the jerk line. But every

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<v Speaker 1>it was like everything was going great. I walked out there,

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<v Speaker 1>Greg really like close to his chest, gave me like

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<v Speaker 1>where no one could see, like a big spile of

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<v Speaker 1>thumbs up, which you know, I was like on cloud nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt great about it. I walked out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like whoo, and then I didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and like that was that, and you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>go into your next audition. I had an audition for

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot for the Oxygen Channel. Do you remember the

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<v Speaker 1>Oxygen Network. I was a big star on I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you were, but I bet you crushed it over there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a pilot that was like, um, an improv pilot,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Curb your Enthusiasm before curb. And they

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<v Speaker 1>got these phenomenal improv actors and I had auditioned for

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<v Speaker 1>it and got it, and they were flying me to

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<v Speaker 1>New York and I thought I was so fancy getting

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<v Speaker 1>flown first class to New York. We filmed in the

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<v Speaker 1>village and I was like, Oh, this one's the one

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<v Speaker 1>going like this has happened, And I played the slutty receptionist,

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<v Speaker 1>perfect perfect um. And then two months went by I

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<v Speaker 1>was waiting to hear about that, and I got a

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<v Speaker 1>call saying, you know that show the Office, they really

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<v Speaker 1>liked you. They just thought you were a little too

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<v Speaker 1>feisty for Pam and they were like this this woman

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<v Speaker 1>is like like, she works in accounting, and she's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuffy. She doesn't really have anything nice to say

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<v Speaker 1>about anybody. And then they said, when you come back in,

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<v Speaker 1>just really downplay your looks, like, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very drab accountant and a paper company. Instagram, so

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<v Speaker 1>I read with Kim Koppas and it was like one

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<v Speaker 1>line and I'll never forget it because he said, um, well, Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how he talked, Well, Angela, Yeah, you made

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<v Speaker 1>a real meal out of that line. And I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>is that good? I don't know do I want to

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<v Speaker 1>make it me a lot of that line? But I

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<v Speaker 1>felt really good about it. It It was the scene that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I ultimately do. And and then I got

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<v Speaker 1>a call that I got it and I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>it because it was like this thing that I had

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<v Speaker 1>let go. I was like, that's great. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>remember thinking like, well, what about Salon Royale. The pilot

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<v Speaker 1>I did for Oxygen It was called Salt Royal Clan Royal,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, it didn't go. Salon Royale did not go.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went from the slotty receptionist to the prickly accountant.

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<v Speaker 1>What now? What would have if Salon Royale had gone?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would you would not have been on

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<v Speaker 1>the office. No, And I would have been a lead.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have I would have thought, who I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the leads of Salon Royale. Yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>Well it all worked out. Oh my goodness. So you

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<v Speaker 1>did you know anybody else that had been cast? You

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<v Speaker 1>had worked with some people? Yes, I knew Oscar Nuniez.

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<v Speaker 1>We had done a sketch comedy show called Hot Towel.

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<v Speaker 1>Sketch comedy shows. I'll have weird names because because you're

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<v Speaker 1>in your twenties and you think you're HILARI yes, hot

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<v Speaker 1>the hot towel they hand you like on a plane.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like this, let's be hot towel. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know because they had flown you first class that

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<v Speaker 1>experience and you were like, oh, let's call it hot towel.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it actually wasn't. That would be perfect, but it

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<v Speaker 1>actually wasn't my idea. Um, so I knew Oscar and

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<v Speaker 1>then um, Kate Flannery and I had done improv together,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Keckner. I knew all the improv circles you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Um do you remember having any reaction with Ben Silverman

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<v Speaker 1>or Koppus Coappus. I loved, like right away, he was

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<v Speaker 1>just amazing, And I'll never forget our scene when we

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<v Speaker 1>did the pilot. It was the last shot of the

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<v Speaker 1>day and we had had a long day and I

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<v Speaker 1>could tell Ken was done. He wanted to go home,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has this two line scene and accounting he

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<v Speaker 1>sends everyone home but us. We're over there in the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I have been waiting all day for this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said my line, you said yours and he goes, okay, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you First of all, Ken doesn't say action,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he goes go in and then you do

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<v Speaker 1>your scene and he's like, you know what, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you do it again? But like give it half of that,

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<v Speaker 1>like give it half of that. So I say my

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<v Speaker 1>line was like, well, if someone's gonna be fired, I, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably gonna be me. And he was like, YEA,

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<v Speaker 1>give it half of that. And I'm like, do I

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<v Speaker 1>sound like some vaudeville commy? Am? I like, if someone's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fired, I don't probably maybe, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, give it half of that. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>someone's gonna be fired, It'll probably be me. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like and one more less. I'm like what? And

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<v Speaker 1>then and then I remember you and I so I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it. I just like gave it nothing right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he was like, I think we got it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he left and I turned you and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, are we going to be fired? And You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we just I think we're fired. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we suck. Oh my gosh. What do you remember that

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<v Speaker 1>was different about shooting the pilot for the Office than

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<v Speaker 1>anything else you'd worked on before. Is there anything different

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<v Speaker 1>that you remember? Well? Sure, I mean there were a

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<v Speaker 1>few things. First of all, like the tone, like just

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that can like made us get there early

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<v Speaker 1>and do work. We were to go to our desks

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<v Speaker 1>and do work like we were filing papers or typing

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<v Speaker 1>something and sit in silence, take a call if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to take a call. It was very method kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go there and work on your desk and he

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<v Speaker 1>just rolled b roll camera. And then also like we

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<v Speaker 1>had no marks, like the sort of um the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you were on a TV show. It didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It didn't feel like any other set I'd

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<v Speaker 1>been on. It almost was like I was on a

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<v Speaker 1>reality TV show and I had been miked untild to

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<v Speaker 1>go work in an office somewhere. Like the feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>the crew, all of that was just like it wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>There were only like the crew felt very small, like

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<v Speaker 1>Skeleton Crew and all the other shows you're on. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a production, right, that's very interesting. The idea

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't have marks, right then, In normal television

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<v Speaker 1>shows they mark where you're supposed to stand so the

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<v Speaker 1>camera can capture you perfectly in your scene and focus

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<v Speaker 1>walking up delivering your lines, and we didn't have that.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a documentary, so the camera was expected to

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<v Speaker 1>find you wherever you happen to land. Yeah, they would

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<v Speaker 1>say walk up to reception and you're going to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>your lines at reception and you know, Angela you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to stand over by the copier and Brian you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to stand over by the coat rack. But they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>within three ft of that area. We could roam around

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<v Speaker 1>and do whatever we wanted. Right. Also, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>there was no missing wall, right we were in and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact the pilot we shot in an actual office space, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the walls were not moving. Bowl. They had

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<v Speaker 1>to truly work in the space they were in, which

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was great because it is a documentary. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't fudge that. They have to. Like if the walls

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<v Speaker 1>there on other TV shows, they'd be like, well, fly

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<v Speaker 1>out the wall, move the wall, it's messing up my shot.

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<v Speaker 1>But this you had to work around it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think like the camera finding you and if it was

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<v Speaker 1>blurry or a little bit, if they missed you and

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<v Speaker 1>then had to find you, all of that was gold

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<v Speaker 1>for this type of show because they didn't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to feel like a polish, polished network television show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you feel like choosing Scranton to set the

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<v Speaker 1>space and what do you think that did for us? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it grounded it and made it like any town. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be anywhere, so these things can happen anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone or just a normal town. I really liked that.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that a lot of the shows skewed

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<v Speaker 1>towards big cities, and um, I like seeing the smaller towns. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that also. I mean, you're right, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think also Greg taking it a step further and saying

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to create in any town by being as

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely true and specific as we can to this town,

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<v Speaker 1>right and it. It is one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make me sad. If if you were going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some regrets about filming The Office, is that

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<v Speaker 1>we never got to film an episode there on location.

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<v Speaker 1>And they tried, they really tried, but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of moving parts to move a whole cast and

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<v Speaker 1>crew and set up for a week. But we tried

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<v Speaker 1>to do the St. Patrick's Day, remember the parade, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been so cool. You know what's so

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<v Speaker 1>crazy is that Jenna said the same thing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>said the same thing. It's one of my biggest regrets

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<v Speaker 1>that we never went there as a production. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>all went there and it was I fell in love

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<v Speaker 1>with the place, so did you. I still think you

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<v Speaker 1>should have a bar there called Malons. You should have

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<v Speaker 1>a bar called Malons and Scranton. You and I were

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<v Speaker 1>the first ones to go. We were yes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we came back and we're like, you guys, you all

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<v Speaker 1>have to go. It's amazing. That is one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite weekends of my life. And that is you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that includes becoming a mother. Like that's how much fun

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend was. It was just a blast. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>they sent a limo for us. We were in New

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<v Speaker 1>York City doing press and I got in at first.

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<v Speaker 1>They picked me up first, and they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up you. You guys, this is before you texted people.

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<v Speaker 1>This really dates us. But I had like a BlackBerry

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<v Speaker 1>and I was trying to tell Brian we were We

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<v Speaker 1>had arrived to pick him up, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in a stretch limo that looks like a truck,

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<v Speaker 1>like an suv. It was, and they had it all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff in there because we were gonna then drive

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<v Speaker 1>to Scranton. And I was like, Brian, what is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are we going? Yeah? I that first time in Scranton. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I it was like we were the Beatles. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we went up to a rooftop in Scranton because they said, oh,

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:53.439
<v Speaker 1>a few people from the city want to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Love some drinks. We went up there and they were

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<v Speaker 1>like four thousand people on the roof and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just me and you no, I know, yeah, And then

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<v Speaker 1>when we all went back, everyone was like, oh my god.

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember ed. Helms turned to me. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go into this train store and we had to go

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>out the back entrance because the store had been surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by people, and he said, angel this might be the

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<v Speaker 1>closest will ever be to being a beatle um. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking to people a little bit about creating their characters.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there because your training was an improv Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>did theater like all through you know, high school and college.

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<v Speaker 1>I did theater, But my love and passion was improv

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<v Speaker 1>and comedy and sketch comedy, right, And so creating the

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<v Speaker 1>character of Angela, did you? Was there like a special

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<v Speaker 1>sauce that you had about creating her physically or well?

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<v Speaker 1>The way I dressed for my second audition. When I

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<v Speaker 1>came back in for what would end up being Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>they asked me if I could bring my own clothes

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<v Speaker 1>to the pilot. I wore my own clothes in the pilot,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I guess my gray on gray that I

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<v Speaker 1>what I had in my closet ended up being a

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<v Speaker 1>color scheme for her. Um. I brought a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>myself and my grandmother, Lena Mackenzie, and my eyes are

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<v Speaker 1>closed in the photo and it's a black and white picture,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just thought it was really funny that she

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.200
<v Speaker 1>would frame that it said I Heart Grandma, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I because Ken really wanted us to decorate our workspace,

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<v Speaker 1>and I put that on my desk, and so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in my mind I saw her as this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuffy gal, but she wasn't malicious. She just

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<v Speaker 1>took work very seriously and she was here to do work.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't there for shenanigans, you know, And that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of how I approached her. The one line Greg told

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.880
<v Speaker 1>me is she probably doesn't have a lot of nice

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<v Speaker 1>things to say about everyone. And then I had a

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<v Speaker 1>prop on my desk that was a paper clip holder

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of a big cat laying on its side.

0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I still have that to this day. So I thought like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I have this photo of me and my grandmother, this

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<v Speaker 1>her grandma, her best friend. I don't know. I have

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<v Speaker 1>this cat paper clip holder. I'm wearing all gray, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know she probably doesn't have a lot of nice

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<v Speaker 1>things to say, so that just sort of informed me.

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I started to put her together. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the pilot, I improvised the whole Sprinkles thing. Kin

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<v Speaker 1>Koppas wanted me to pass around papers in the background

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of a scene and I asked him what what papers said,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, and I doodled a little cat and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you're invited to Sprinkle's first birthday party. And

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of made it up that I had found

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<v Speaker 1>this cat in the parking lot and I invited everyone

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>but Jim. I just figured Jim would have made fun

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 1>of me or something. And that was all stuff I

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>was doing on my own. You know, you saved the

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:35.679
<v Speaker 1>sprinkles and posted I still have the sprinkles posted not.

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<v Speaker 1>You gave me the one that was on the partition

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<v Speaker 1>when we wrapped. You gave me that, and I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it so much. You kept it. No one

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>else kept Kevin. Kevin my my the person that drove

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 1>me crazy is kept was sentimental and in a weird way. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember seeing the pilot for the first time? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you think of it? I thought it was

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.360
<v Speaker 1>really funny. I thought it was really funny, and I thought, well,

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe we have a chance. But for me, when I

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>really thought oh this is we've got something was Diversity

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Day and that scene of all of us in the

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<v Speaker 1>conference room with those note cards on our forehead. I

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<v Speaker 1>was Jamaica, you know, and I think you do want

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<v Speaker 1>to stop it. You and I had that great scene. Um.

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember looking around and being like, oh, this is

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not seeing this on TV right now. We're the

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>only people doing this here and this feels really special. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you remember anything about getting the call that

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<v Speaker 1>the show was picked up for a series. I do.

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 1>I was. I mean, I I thought, oh my god.

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 1>My first thought was, well, I guess I could go

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 1>down to part time at the theater, like because I

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>just didn't know, Like nothing for me had ever stuck.

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>And I remember being I was excited, but being nervous

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 1>if it meant I should quit the other job. Okay,

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>so we finished the first season and then we come

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<v Speaker 1>back for season two. What do you remember that changed? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Hair and makeup. The hair and makeup was like a

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 1>like if my my grandpa that used he used to

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<v Speaker 1>like try to make things with wood. The makeup area

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>was like someone who put together a few pieces of

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:45.440
<v Speaker 1>plywood and like clamped a light on it that looked

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 1>like an electrical hazard in the middle of an empty warehouse.

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Season two, we had a trailer. You walked inside and

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>it was a hair and makeup trailer, and there was

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>music playing and you sat in a chair and there

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>were lights, and then we moved to an actual sound

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 1>stage and then fourty year old Virgin, right year old Virgin.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the game changer for Steve and Jenna and

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I have talked about this where we had this moment

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<v Speaker 1>where we're like, oh my god, our friends Steve is

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like real famous, like real Dale famous. I

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>really felt like they were banking on Steve, and I

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, I will attach myself to the Steve wagon.

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm banking on him too. I thought that that was

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 1>a really good sign, but I still wasn't confident. I

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>mean I still was like when we finished those first

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<v Speaker 1>six because season one was just six, they printed our

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:39.239
<v Speaker 1>names on pieces of paper and then laminated them and

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>put a piece of velcrow on the back and that's

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>what stuck to your door of your trailer. And I

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>went up to mine, ripped that, ripped it off and said,

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna save that. That was fun because you were

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>sure it was done. I just didn't know. I mean,

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>they were putting so much at the time, NBC had

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<v Speaker 1>the show that was like our rival sort of show

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>that was this couple, and they were on every bus everywhere.

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>We weren't on any buses if we weren't anywhere, And

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, the putting a lot of money

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.719
<v Speaker 1>on those guys. Yes, there was not a whole lot

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>of confidence. But Kevin Riley, I was about to say,

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I knew Kevin Riley was fighting for us, and I

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.360
<v Speaker 1>know that's why when we ultimately won an Emmy, all

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you guys lifted him in the air and that's the

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>photo that made the l a times because we all

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>knew as a cast we stayed on the air because

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Riley put his neck on the line for us.

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Right when did you feel like we actually had security?

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<v Speaker 1>I know distinctly remember well. I remember getting an email

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<v Speaker 1>that our first Christmas episode had become the number one

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 1>download on iTunes and I was like what and I said, oh,

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>that's it. Mom was getting rid of for Chevy Blazer

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 1>and then I got a Honda. Um yeah that that

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>That was a huge moment, and it's funny. Before that aired,

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>there was a moment that was very significant for you

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>and I, which was boost Crews. Yes, when we finally

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 1>became series regulars. Yep. I found out I was going

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to be a series regular. And there's a photo that, um,

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I think Oscar took of Jenna and I when I

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>found out. We're jumping up in the air holding hands.

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>And I mean up until then, we were basically like

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>week to week. Like I remember in Halloween episode when

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>they were like, yeah, we're gonna actually fire one person.

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>We're all like, okay, Hi, how's it going. I petitioned

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>for it to be you. I want you to know.

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember saying to my mom, I'm like, Mom, you

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>know pretty much anyone can go really And she was like, well,

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>every office needs a bitch, That's what she said to you. Yeah,

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>She's like, every office needs the bitch. I'm like, your

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>mom was confident that it wouldn't be you. My mom

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>was you haven't you know Bertie Kinzie, She's like, don't

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>speak it, don't speak it put out the positive. Oh man,

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>So at this time, so this happens, Um, we shoot

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>boost Cruise. It airs after Christmas. Christmas episode happens on TV.

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>It's our largest audience ever ever. Then iTunes streaming. We

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>become number one in that and then Steve wins the

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Golden Globes. What do you remember about that night of

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>us at the Golden Globes? Um? I remember I got

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>a spray tan because I thought I was really white,

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>like too white in my dress, and so people were like,

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>get a spray tan. And then Rain made fun of

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:30.719
<v Speaker 1>me so much. He was like how what what? So

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>one day on the office, Angela Martin is like pale

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and the next day you look like orange. Like Angela.

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know me. And then um,

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>we weren't allowed to sit in the main room. Only

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Steve got invited into the main room where the fancy

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>people were. We were in the annex and we watched

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>him win like on TV, and we were we we

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>about like fell out of our chairs, literally we fell

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>out of the stuff. It. We made such a scene

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>that other fancy. People were like, oh, little guys. We

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>were screaming, We're so excited. And when the party lets out,

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it lets out into the room we were in, and

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>we like, we tackled Steve. We're so excited. And then

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>season two happens, and then that year we win the Emmy. Yeah,

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:19.959
<v Speaker 1>that was so cool, and now we're you know, at

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>least in terms of the Emmys. What do they know,

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:26.239
<v Speaker 1>but we're now the number one show, um, And so

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>we've gone from do we even have a job? Are

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>they going to let us do one more? Two now suddenly?

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Or a hit? Do you think that that changed anything? Well, yeah,

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>for sure, it changed everything as far as the network

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>was concerned. I think that the show was fantastic. I

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>think our fans were there, but it really made us

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>bankable for the network, and then we started getting the

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>bigger orders. Um. And then creatively the show started finding

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>its form in terms of we're gonna have a cold open,

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<v Speaker 1>the episodes are going to take place more or less

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in a day. What do you think the cold opens

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>allowed the show to do. I think they allowed to

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>show other departments, other little just relationships and worlds within

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>dunder Mifflin. Well, Yeah, they could be character studies too

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and not have to be tied to anything to any storyline, right.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean the Kevin making his chili. It's never discussed again.

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>There's never any conversation. At least once a year Kevin

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>says he brings in the chili. He never brings it

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>in again. He does it one time, he spills it

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's it. Um. But I think in terms of

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>it allowed the show to do something for pure comedy,

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>for a character study. Yeah. I feel like there are

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways that our show did that that

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I loved, and I think that was Greg Daniels, you know,

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>just doing his thing. I mean, there would be nuggets

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>dropped in a monologue like a talking head and you're

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:00.719
<v Speaker 1>like what, and it's never revisited again. But it's just information.

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, we all know that Creed did

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>action movies in Hong Kong, what you know? Like whatever?

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Dwight has some really good ones too, um.

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>But I love that about the chili. It's just assumed information.

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>And and we start in the middle we don't explain

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to you everything. I was just rewatching um the Halloween

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>episode and when Michael leaves he walks right past Hank.

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Never introduced Hank. That's just where he sits. That's who

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>he is, his security downstairs. But there weren't these big

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>like now we must introduce this and this is a thing.

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>It was just like their life, all right, you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for now. We are out of time, as

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<v Speaker 1>they say, but we will be back with more of Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>I promise in a future episode. And until then, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a bunch more great interviews coming your way. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for listening, and please please just for me,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great week. The Office. Deep Dive is hosted

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<v Speaker 1>and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive

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<v Speaker 1>producer Langley. Our senior producer is Tessa Kramer, our associate

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<v Speaker 1>producer is Emily Carr, and our assistant editor is the

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<v Speaker 1>A goo Topia. My main man in the booth is

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<v Speaker 1>Alec Moore. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed by

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<v Speaker 1>my great friend Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed

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<v Speaker 1>by seth Olandski