1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: My name is Angela Kinsey and I played Angela Marton. 2 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Hello everybody out there in podcast land, Welcome back to 3 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: the Office deep Dive. I am your host Brian Baumgartner. Today, 4 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: as you just heard, you will be listening to my 5 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: conversation with Angela Kinsey. Now, let's get something straight. Kevin 6 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: made Angela Martin crazy back in the accountants Corner throughout 7 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: the entire run of the Office. But I am very 8 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: happy to report that Angela Kinsey and I actually became 9 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: very good friends on the set of the Office and 10 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: we are still great friends to this day, thankfully. Um, 11 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: but we actually met many years before the Office. How Ever, 12 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: neither of us remembers it. Okay, So when Angela and 13 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: I were in college, Angela went to Baylor, I went 14 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: to s m U. Hail to the Red and the Blue. Um. 15 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: We had the same spring break and one year we 16 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: both separately went to Acapulco, Mexico. Random, I know, but 17 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: at some point during that trip we ended up in 18 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: the same cab, like the the same van cab with 19 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of other people. And long story short, many 20 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: years later, back in our little corner, we figured out 21 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: that we met on that night in the cab in Acapulco, Mexico. 22 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: Even though, like I said, neither of us have any 23 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: memory of it. Um. But luckily for your listening pleasure today, 24 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: we do have a lot of great memories from our 25 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: ten years working together on the office. We truly were Angela, 26 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Oscar and I. We were the stars of our own 27 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: show over in the accountant's corner. Let me tell you 28 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: it was a great show. At least we thought it 29 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: was a great show. Anyway, Please welcome my bestie Angela, Kinzie, 30 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Bubble and squeak. I love it. Bubble and squeak on 31 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Bubble and squeaker, cookie, every moment left over from the 32 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: night before. Oh, I mean I tried you were coming. 33 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good? How are you? How's your family? 34 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for my Christmas car. Everybody's good. Ago, I 35 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: got it. I'm glad. It was so memorable. Hi guys, 36 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so low, so low. I think 37 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: that's more about your height. Hey, Jenna was just in 38 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: that chair and had no issues. Well, she's taller than 39 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: I am. All right, I do this for a living. 40 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: You know what is going on? This is a microphone, 41 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: you know, it occurs to me, we have you and 42 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: I do this all the time together all the time. 43 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: Are we already recording? I think it's gold is going 44 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: to happen. We're always paired together to do like press 45 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: and always satellite tours. And because we're good together, Bud, Yes, 46 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: we are, we are. How are you good? You look good? 47 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: You have like a snazzy sports jacket I'm wearing us. 48 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: I dressed up for you. Thank you. I like the 49 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: mood lighting. I like what you've done with the room. 50 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Kind of got a sexy vibe. This is my first 51 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: day in this room, like we could be in a 52 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: lodge maybe like in Vegas, a Vegas lodge. Well, they 53 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: made it, they made it feel like home for me. Um. Well, 54 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here, Brian. I'm happy that you're here. 55 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: It's fun to go back and talk about this. Really fun. 56 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Jenna and I are having so much fun. 57 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: But I I know, we knew it was a great show, 58 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: that we were part of something special. But getting to 59 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: watch it again and I'm watching it now with like 60 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: no agenda. I hit the mic. You're a professional. I'm 61 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: not Agenda is the wrong word, but I'm watching it 62 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: now just as an audience, Like I'm not thinking about like, 63 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: oh did I get my line right? Or you know, 64 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm just watching it as an audience and I'm just 65 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: loving it and I'm just like, ah, man, we got 66 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: to do that. Do you remember I'm going to go 67 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: out of order here, but do you remember when we 68 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: were almost fired? You mean you mean which time? The 69 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: time with kin Kopas, at the time when we made 70 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Oscar tell a story really loud under the come one 71 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: where we had Oscar. Oscar gets really animated and he 72 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: gets worked up and he's kind of like a very 73 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: passionate storyteller. Yes, all right, So to set this up, 74 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: show is brand new. We get hired and we're out 75 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: in the parking lot and we're we're supporting casts. We 76 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: are not a big ticket item on the show. We 77 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: are easily replaceable. And Oscar starts telling the story very loudly, 78 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: very loudly, and we were This is when he kind 79 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: of blames me. We were sort of standing over in 80 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: the sun and I'm like, guys, let's go stand in 81 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: the shade, and I scooched us up against the wall 82 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: of the building, apparently right under a window where they 83 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: were filming, yes, and then Oscar continues the story and 84 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: he goes Kinsey almost coping fired because she's like, Oscar 85 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: over here, come down loudly under the window and we 86 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: got yelled at. Ken koppas himself leaned out the window 87 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: our director and said, hey, guys, could you can you 88 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: keep it down? We're trying to film here. We're like, oh, 89 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: we're out of here. I have to say what I 90 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: learned really quickly that moment is the fight or flight 91 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: and all of us Oscar I don't know if he 92 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: meant to deer in headlights. He stepped out and looked up. 93 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: My ass hugged the wall. I made myself so small 94 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: I touched into a shadow. I don't think Ken saw me. 95 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: I think he just saw Oscar. You went flat up 96 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: against a dumpster. Who probably I was like, I can 97 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: like stepped out and was like okay, and then he 98 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: was like, um okay. Two thousand and three, Yes, before 99 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: anything related to the office happened. What were you doing, 100 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: oh man? Two thousand and three. I was working at 101 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: Improv Olympic Theater and I performed there anytime they give 102 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: me stage time, so usually about three nights a week. 103 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: I did improv. Um. I was in a show with 104 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: Kate Flannery who ended up playing Meredith on the Office, 105 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: and Kate Wall, Laura Kraft. Really hilarious people were on 106 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: this show. Rich Fulture was our only guy and the 107 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: name of the show was Girl Team Balls, Girl Team 108 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: Balls performing three nights a week. No, no, no, That 109 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: was one of the shows I was in. It was 110 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: like Sunday nights at like ten o'clock, which is like 111 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: really when you want to see comedy. And then I 112 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: had like a few other improv shows I was doing. 113 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: I was all in it. It was like my life. 114 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: I know, Brian's nodding at me like nerd, but so 115 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: you're doing improv Olympic and I'm working. I'm working at 116 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: the theater and I'm performing there and then auditioning, Yeah, 117 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: auditioning like every little thing I could do. I had 118 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of national commercials. Those were the days where 119 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: you could get a big national commercial and it would 120 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: like you would make a nice income, especially like I 121 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: just had a tiny, little one bedroom apartment. It's not 122 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: like any big checks. Um. I had a Chevy Blazer 123 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: that my parents had helped me buy out of college 124 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: that Chevy Blazer made it until about oh gosh, around 125 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: Booze Cruise. I was driving back from Long Beach and 126 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: I made a left and my right tire made right, 127 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: rolled right through the intersection. Oh my god. Um, and 128 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: now did you know about the British Office? Of course, 129 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: I was a huge fan. You're a huge fan. I 130 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: thought it was amazing. But you know, I grew up 131 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: with a lot of British television because I grew up overseas, 132 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: and um, that was like I grew up on faulty 133 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: towers and good neighbors and all these that kind of 134 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: sense of humor really appealed to me. Okay, so you 135 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: get called to audition. Well, actually I knew Greg Daniels 136 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: at the time. I was related to Greg by marriage. 137 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: You guys know that out there right. I've talked about it, um, 138 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: And I mean, I just loved Greg. He was so 139 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: supportive of my career. He would come to my improv shows. 140 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: I look back on it now, Brian, and I know 141 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: you you do too, because you have kids. They probably 142 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: had to get a babysitter coming to my show like I. 143 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: But when you're in your twenties, you don't think of that. 144 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: You're like, I have an Amprov show at Tanna Clack 145 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: that Sunday. But now I think about it and I'm like, 146 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: what like it takes to get out to get to 147 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: someone's whatever it is. So he was always so supportive, 148 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: and he was going to be doing the remake, and 149 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: he said, you know, this is when you should come 150 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: in for you should this is kind of in your wheelhouse. 151 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, and I was nervous. I 152 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: was nervous about what that looked like in the USA 153 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: because I loved the British version and I was like, oh, no, 154 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: are they gonna But I knew if anyone could do 155 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: it would be Greg because he's he is just brilliant, 156 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: he really is. And so you get the call and 157 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: you go, is there anything specifically you remember about the 158 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: day you went into audition. You were auditioning not for 159 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: Angela and I was auditioning for Pam. I remember it 160 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: very very well because before I went in, Greg said, Angela, 161 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: that sounds kind of funny saying this. Um He's like, 162 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: I am not going to acknowledge you, okay, like we 163 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: don't know each other. He said, trust me on this. 164 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: If they just think you're there just like anyone else. 165 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: It's going to serve you better. He goes, I know 166 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: you can do this. You know you can do it. 167 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: I am not going to in any way let them 168 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: know that I know you and you don't do the same. 169 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, got it, And you don't 170 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: mean my poker face is horrible. So you're walking in 171 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: and you're like, Hi stranger, Hi greg Um. But no. 172 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: I walked in and there was a room full of 173 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: people as a producer session. He was in the back corner, 174 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: and Um, I wore a like a pink turtleneck and 175 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: my hair sort of half up, half down. And I 176 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: had really worked hard on the scene. I felt really 177 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: good about it and it was going great. I was 178 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: reading with Phyllis and there's a moment when Michael fake 179 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: fires Pam in front of Ryan the Timp, and it's 180 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: such a jerk move right, and Pam calls him a jerk. 181 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: She starts to cry and she calls him a jerk 182 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: because you kind of realized that as crappy as this 183 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: job is, she probably needs this job. And when Phyllis 184 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: as Michael fake fires me, I look up and I 185 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: called her a jerk, but I guess I was like jerk. 186 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: Like everyone started laughing, and I remember in my mind 187 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: thinking like I don't think I'm supposed to have laugh 188 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: right there. So you got a laugh on the jersey, 189 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: I got a laugh on the jerk line. But every 190 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: it was like everything was going great. I walked out there, 191 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: Greg really like close to his chest, gave me like 192 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: where no one could see, like a big spile of 193 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: thumbs up, which you know, I was like on cloud nine, 194 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: and I felt great about it. I walked out there. 195 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: I was like whoo, and then I didn't get it. 196 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: Um and like that was that, and you know, you 197 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: go into your next audition. I had an audition for 198 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: a pilot for the Oxygen Channel. Do you remember the 199 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: Oxygen Network. I was a big star on I bet 200 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: you were, but I bet you crushed it over there. 201 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: It was a pilot that was like, um, an improv pilot, 202 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: kind of like Curb your Enthusiasm before curb. And they 203 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: got these phenomenal improv actors and I had auditioned for 204 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: it and got it, and they were flying me to 205 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: New York and I thought I was so fancy getting 206 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: flown first class to New York. We filmed in the 207 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: village and I was like, Oh, this one's the one 208 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: going like this has happened, And I played the slutty receptionist, 209 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: perfect perfect um. And then two months went by I 210 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: was waiting to hear about that, and I got a 211 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: call saying, you know that show the Office, they really 212 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: liked you. They just thought you were a little too 213 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: feisty for Pam and they were like this this woman 214 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: is like like, she works in accounting, and she's sort 215 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: of stuffy. She doesn't really have anything nice to say 216 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: about anybody. And then they said, when you come back in, 217 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: just really downplay your looks, like, you know, this is 218 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: a very drab accountant and a paper company. Instagram, so 219 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: I read with Kim Koppas and it was like one 220 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: line and I'll never forget it because he said, um, well, Angela, 221 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: you know how he talked, Well, Angela, Yeah, you made 222 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: a real meal out of that line. And I was like, wait, 223 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: is that good? I don't know do I want to 224 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: make it me a lot of that line? But I 225 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: felt really good about it. It It was the scene that 226 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: you and I ultimately do. And and then I got 227 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: a call that I got it and I couldn't believe 228 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: it because it was like this thing that I had 229 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: let go. I was like, that's great. And then I 230 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: remember thinking like, well, what about Salon Royale. The pilot 231 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: I did for Oxygen It was called Salt Royal Clan Royal, 232 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: and um, it didn't go. Salon Royale did not go. 233 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: So I went from the slotty receptionist to the prickly accountant. 234 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: What now? What would have if Salon Royale had gone? 235 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: I think I would you would not have been on 236 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: the office. No, And I would have been a lead. 237 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: I would have I would have thought, who I'm like 238 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: one of the leads of Salon Royale. Yeah, I know, 239 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: Well it all worked out. Oh my goodness. So you 240 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: did you know anybody else that had been cast? You 241 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 1: had worked with some people? Yes, I knew Oscar Nuniez. 242 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: We had done a sketch comedy show called Hot Towel. 243 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: Sketch comedy shows. I'll have weird names because because you're 244 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: in your twenties and you think you're HILARI yes, hot 245 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: the hot towel they hand you like on a plane. 246 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: We were like this, let's be hot towel. Well, I 247 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: don't know because they had flown you first class that 248 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: experience and you were like, oh, let's call it hot towel. 249 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh it actually wasn't. That would be perfect, but it 250 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: actually wasn't my idea. Um, so I knew Oscar and 251 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: then um, Kate Flannery and I had done improv together, 252 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: Dave Keckner. I knew all the improv circles you know. 253 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: Um do you remember having any reaction with Ben Silverman 254 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: or Koppus Coappus. I loved, like right away, he was 255 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: just amazing, And I'll never forget our scene when we 256 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: did the pilot. It was the last shot of the 257 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: day and we had had a long day and I 258 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: could tell Ken was done. He wanted to go home, 259 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: and he has this two line scene and accounting he 260 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: sends everyone home but us. We're over there in the corner. 261 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: You and I have been waiting all day for this moment. 262 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: And I said my line, you said yours and he goes, okay, Um, 263 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: why do you First of all, Ken doesn't say action, 264 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, he goes go in and then you do 265 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: your scene and he's like, you know what, why don't 266 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: you do it again? But like give it half of that, 267 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: like give it half of that. So I say my 268 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: line was like, well, if someone's gonna be fired, I, yeah, 269 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be me. And he was like, YEA, 270 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: give it half of that. And I'm like, do I 271 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: sound like some vaudeville commy? Am? I like, if someone's 272 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: going to be fired, I don't probably maybe, Like I 273 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: was like, give it half of that. So I was like, 274 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: someone's gonna be fired, It'll probably be me. And he 275 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: was like and one more less. I'm like what? And 276 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: then and then I remember you and I so I did. 277 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: I said it. I just like gave it nothing right. 278 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: And then he was like, I think we got it. 279 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: And then he left and I turned you and I 280 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: was like, are we going to be fired? And You're like, 281 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: I think we just I think we're fired. I think 282 00:15:52,200 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: we suck. Oh my gosh. What do you remember that 283 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: was different about shooting the pilot for the Office than 284 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: anything else you'd worked on before. Is there anything different 285 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: that you remember? Well? Sure, I mean there were a 286 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: few things. First of all, like the tone, like just 287 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: the fact that can like made us get there early 288 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: and do work. We were to go to our desks 289 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: and do work like we were filing papers or typing 290 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: something and sit in silence, take a call if you 291 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: want to take a call. It was very method kind 292 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: of go there and work on your desk and he 293 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: just rolled b roll camera. And then also like we 294 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: had no marks, like the sort of um the idea 295 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: that you were on a TV show. It didn't feel 296 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: like that. It didn't feel like any other set I'd 297 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: been on. It almost was like I was on a 298 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: reality TV show and I had been miked untild to 299 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: go work in an office somewhere. Like the feeling of 300 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: the crew, all of that was just like it wasn't there. 301 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: There were only like the crew felt very small, like 302 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: Skeleton Crew and all the other shows you're on. It 303 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: feels like a production, right, that's very interesting. The idea 304 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: that we didn't have marks, right then, In normal television 305 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: shows they mark where you're supposed to stand so the 306 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: camera can capture you perfectly in your scene and focus 307 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: walking up delivering your lines, and we didn't have that. 308 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: This was a documentary, so the camera was expected to 309 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: find you wherever you happen to land. Yeah, they would 310 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: say walk up to reception and you're going to deliver 311 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: your lines at reception and you know, Angela you're going 312 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: to stand over by the copier and Brian you're going 313 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: to stand over by the coat rack. But they didn't 314 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: within three ft of that area. We could roam around 315 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: and do whatever we wanted. Right. Also, there was no 316 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: there was no missing wall, right we were in and 317 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: in fact the pilot we shot in an actual office space, right, 318 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: and so the walls were not moving. Bowl. They had 319 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: to truly work in the space they were in, which 320 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 1: I thought was great because it is a documentary. They 321 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: can't fudge that. They have to. Like if the walls 322 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: there on other TV shows, they'd be like, well, fly 323 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: out the wall, move the wall, it's messing up my shot. 324 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: But this you had to work around it. And I 325 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: think like the camera finding you and if it was 326 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: blurry or a little bit, if they missed you and 327 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: then had to find you, all of that was gold 328 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: for this type of show because they didn't want it 329 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: to feel like a polish, polished network television show. Yeah, 330 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: how do you feel like choosing Scranton to set the 331 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: space and what do you think that did for us? Well? 332 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: I think it grounded it and made it like any town. Right, 333 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: it could be anywhere, so these things can happen anywhere 334 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: to anyone or just a normal town. I really liked that. 335 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: I also think that a lot of the shows skewed 336 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: towards big cities, and um, I like seeing the smaller towns. Yeah, 337 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: I think that also. I mean, you're right, but I 338 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: think also Greg taking it a step further and saying 339 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: we're going to create in any town by being as 340 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: absolutely true and specific as we can to this town, 341 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: right and it. It is one of the things that 342 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: doesn't make me sad. If if you were going to say, 343 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: what are some regrets about filming The Office, is that 344 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: we never got to film an episode there on location. 345 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: And they tried, they really tried, but it was a 346 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts to move a whole cast and 347 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: crew and set up for a week. But we tried 348 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: to do the St. Patrick's Day, remember the parade, and 349 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: that would have been so cool. You know what's so 350 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: crazy is that Jenna said the same thing, and I 351 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: said the same thing. It's one of my biggest regrets 352 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: that we never went there as a production. Now we 353 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: all went there and it was I fell in love 354 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: with the place, so did you. I still think you 355 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: should have a bar there called Malons. You should have 356 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: a bar called Malons and Scranton. You and I were 357 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: the first ones to go. We were yes, and then 358 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: we came back and we're like, you guys, you all 359 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: have to go. It's amazing. That is one of my 360 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: favorite weekends of my life. And that is you guys, 361 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: that includes becoming a mother. Like that's how much fun 362 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: this weekend was. It was just a blast. First of all, 363 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: they sent a limo for us. We were in New 364 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: York City doing press and I got in at first. 365 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: They picked me up first, and they were going to 366 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: pick up you. You guys, this is before you texted people. 367 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: This really dates us. But I had like a BlackBerry 368 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: and I was trying to tell Brian we were We 369 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: had arrived to pick him up, and I was like, 370 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: we're in a stretch limo that looks like a truck, 371 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: like an suv. It was, and they had it all 372 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: the stuff in there because we were gonna then drive 373 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: to Scranton. And I was like, Brian, what is happening? 374 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: Where are we going? Yeah? I that first time in Scranton. Actually, 375 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: you and I it was like we were the Beatles. Yeah, 376 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: we went up to a rooftop in Scranton because they said, oh, 377 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: a few people from the city want to meet you. 378 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: Love some drinks. We went up there and they were 379 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: like four thousand people on the roof and it was 380 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: just me and you no, I know, yeah, And then 381 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: when we all went back, everyone was like, oh my god. 382 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: I remember ed. Helms turned to me. He wanted to 383 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: go into this train store and we had to go 384 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: out the back entrance because the store had been surrounded 385 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: by people, and he said, angel this might be the 386 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: closest will ever be to being a beatle um. I've 387 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: been talking to people a little bit about creating their characters. 388 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: Was there because your training was an improv Well, I 389 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: did theater like all through you know, high school and college. 390 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: I did theater, But my love and passion was improv 391 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: and comedy and sketch comedy, right, And so creating the 392 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: character of Angela, did you? Was there like a special 393 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: sauce that you had about creating her physically or well? 394 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: The way I dressed for my second audition. When I 395 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: came back in for what would end up being Angela, 396 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: they asked me if I could bring my own clothes 397 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: to the pilot. I wore my own clothes in the pilot, 398 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess my gray on gray that I 399 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: what I had in my closet ended up being a 400 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: color scheme for her. Um. I brought a photo of 401 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: myself and my grandmother, Lena Mackenzie, and my eyes are 402 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: closed in the photo and it's a black and white picture, 403 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: and I just thought it was really funny that she 404 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: would frame that it said I Heart Grandma, and that's 405 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: what I because Ken really wanted us to decorate our workspace, 406 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: and I put that on my desk, and so, you know, 407 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: I guess in my mind I saw her as this 408 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: sort of stuffy gal, but she wasn't malicious. She just 409 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: took work very seriously and she was here to do work. 410 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: She wasn't there for shenanigans, you know, And that's sort 411 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: of how I approached her. The one line Greg told 412 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: me is she probably doesn't have a lot of nice 413 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: things to say about everyone. And then I had a 414 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 1: prop on my desk that was a paper clip holder 415 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: that was kind of a big cat laying on its side. 416 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: I still have that to this day. So I thought like, well, 417 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: I have this photo of me and my grandmother, this 418 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: her grandma, her best friend. I don't know. I have 419 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: this cat paper clip holder. I'm wearing all gray, and 420 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: I know she probably doesn't have a lot of nice 421 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: things to say, so that just sort of informed me. 422 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: I started to put her together. And then you know, 423 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: in the pilot, I improvised the whole Sprinkles thing. Kin 424 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: Koppas wanted me to pass around papers in the background 425 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: of a scene and I asked him what what papers said, 426 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, and I doodled a little cat and 427 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: I said, you're invited to Sprinkle's first birthday party. And 428 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: I sort of made it up that I had found 429 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 1: this cat in the parking lot and I invited everyone 430 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: but Jim. I just figured Jim would have made fun 431 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: of me or something. And that was all stuff I 432 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: was doing on my own. You know, you saved the 433 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: sprinkles and posted I still have the sprinkles posted not. 434 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: You gave me the one that was on the partition 435 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: when we wrapped. You gave me that, and I like, 436 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: I love it so much. You kept it. No one 437 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: else kept Kevin. Kevin my my the person that drove 438 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: me crazy is kept was sentimental and in a weird way. Um, 439 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: do you remember seeing the pilot for the first time? Yeah? Yeah, 440 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: what did you think of it? I thought it was 441 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: really funny. I thought it was really funny, and I thought, well, 442 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: maybe we have a chance. But for me, when I 443 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: really thought oh this is we've got something was Diversity 444 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: Day and that scene of all of us in the 445 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: conference room with those note cards on our forehead. I 446 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: was Jamaica, you know, and I think you do want 447 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: to stop it. You and I had that great scene. Um. 448 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: I remember looking around and being like, oh, this is 449 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing this on TV right now. We're the 450 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: only people doing this here and this feels really special. Yeah. 451 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: And do you remember anything about getting the call that 452 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: the show was picked up for a series. I do. 453 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: I was. I mean, I I thought, oh my god. 454 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: My first thought was, well, I guess I could go 455 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: down to part time at the theater, like because I 456 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: just didn't know, Like nothing for me had ever stuck. 457 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: And I remember being I was excited, but being nervous 458 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: if it meant I should quit the other job. Okay, 459 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: so we finished the first season and then we come 460 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: back for season two. What do you remember that changed? Um? 461 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: Hair and makeup. The hair and makeup was like a 462 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: like if my my grandpa that used he used to 463 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: like try to make things with wood. The makeup area 464 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: was like someone who put together a few pieces of 465 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: plywood and like clamped a light on it that looked 466 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: like an electrical hazard in the middle of an empty warehouse. 467 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: Season two, we had a trailer. You walked inside and 468 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: it was a hair and makeup trailer, and there was 469 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: music playing and you sat in a chair and there 470 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: were lights, and then we moved to an actual sound 471 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: stage and then fourty year old Virgin, right year old Virgin. 472 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: That was the game changer for Steve and Jenna and 473 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: I have talked about this where we had this moment 474 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: where we're like, oh my god, our friends Steve is 475 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: gonna be like real famous, like real Dale famous. I 476 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: really felt like they were banking on Steve, and I 477 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I will attach myself to the Steve wagon. 478 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: I'm banking on him too. I thought that that was 479 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: a really good sign, but I still wasn't confident. I 480 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: mean I still was like when we finished those first 481 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: six because season one was just six, they printed our 482 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 1: names on pieces of paper and then laminated them and 483 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: put a piece of velcrow on the back and that's 484 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: what stuck to your door of your trailer. And I 485 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: went up to mine, ripped that, ripped it off and said, 486 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna save that. That was fun because you were 487 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: sure it was done. I just didn't know. I mean, 488 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: they were putting so much at the time, NBC had 489 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: the show that was like our rival sort of show 490 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: that was this couple, and they were on every bus everywhere. 491 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: We weren't on any buses if we weren't anywhere, And 492 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, the putting a lot of money 493 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 1: on those guys. Yes, there was not a whole lot 494 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: of confidence. But Kevin Riley, I was about to say, 495 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: I knew Kevin Riley was fighting for us, and I 496 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: know that's why when we ultimately won an Emmy, all 497 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: you guys lifted him in the air and that's the 498 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: photo that made the l a times because we all 499 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: knew as a cast we stayed on the air because 500 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Riley put his neck on the line for us. 501 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: Right when did you feel like we actually had security? 502 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: I know distinctly remember well. I remember getting an email 503 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: that our first Christmas episode had become the number one 504 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: download on iTunes and I was like what and I said, oh, 505 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: that's it. Mom was getting rid of for Chevy Blazer 506 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: and then I got a Honda. Um yeah that that 507 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: That was a huge moment, and it's funny. Before that aired, 508 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: there was a moment that was very significant for you 509 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: and I, which was boost Crews. Yes, when we finally 510 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: became series regulars. Yep. I found out I was going 511 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: to be a series regular. And there's a photo that, um, 512 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: I think Oscar took of Jenna and I when I 513 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: found out. We're jumping up in the air holding hands. 514 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: And I mean up until then, we were basically like 515 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: week to week. Like I remember in Halloween episode when 516 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, we're gonna actually fire one person. 517 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: We're all like, okay, Hi, how's it going. I petitioned 518 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: for it to be you. I want you to know. 519 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: I remember saying to my mom, I'm like, Mom, you 520 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: know pretty much anyone can go really And she was like, well, 521 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: every office needs a bitch, That's what she said to you. Yeah, 522 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: She's like, every office needs the bitch. I'm like, your 523 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: mom was confident that it wouldn't be you. My mom 524 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: was you haven't you know Bertie Kinzie, She's like, don't 525 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: speak it, don't speak it put out the positive. Oh man, 526 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: So at this time, so this happens, Um, we shoot 527 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: boost Cruise. It airs after Christmas. Christmas episode happens on TV. 528 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: It's our largest audience ever ever. Then iTunes streaming. We 529 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: become number one in that and then Steve wins the 530 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: Golden Globes. What do you remember about that night of 531 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: us at the Golden Globes? Um? I remember I got 532 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: a spray tan because I thought I was really white, 533 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: like too white in my dress, and so people were like, 534 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: get a spray tan. And then Rain made fun of 535 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: me so much. He was like how what what? So 536 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: one day on the office, Angela Martin is like pale 537 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: and the next day you look like orange. Like Angela. 538 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know me. And then um, 539 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: we weren't allowed to sit in the main room. Only 540 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: Steve got invited into the main room where the fancy 541 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: people were. We were in the annex and we watched 542 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: him win like on TV, and we were we we 543 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: about like fell out of our chairs, literally we fell 544 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: out of the stuff. It. We made such a scene 545 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: that other fancy. People were like, oh, little guys. We 546 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: were screaming, We're so excited. And when the party lets out, 547 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: it lets out into the room we were in, and 548 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: we like, we tackled Steve. We're so excited. And then 549 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: season two happens, and then that year we win the Emmy. Yeah, 550 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 1: that was so cool, and now we're you know, at 551 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: least in terms of the Emmys. What do they know, 552 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 1: but we're now the number one show, um, And so 553 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: we've gone from do we even have a job? Are 554 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: they going to let us do one more? Two now suddenly? 555 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: Or a hit? Do you think that that changed anything? Well, yeah, 556 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: for sure, it changed everything as far as the network 557 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: was concerned. I think that the show was fantastic. I 558 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: think our fans were there, but it really made us 559 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: bankable for the network, and then we started getting the 560 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: bigger orders. Um. And then creatively the show started finding 561 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: its form in terms of we're gonna have a cold open, 562 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: the episodes are going to take place more or less 563 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: in a day. What do you think the cold opens 564 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: allowed the show to do. I think they allowed to 565 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: show other departments, other little just relationships and worlds within 566 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: dunder Mifflin. Well, Yeah, they could be character studies too 567 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: and not have to be tied to anything to any storyline, right. 568 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: I mean the Kevin making his chili. It's never discussed again. 569 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: There's never any conversation. At least once a year Kevin 570 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: says he brings in the chili. He never brings it 571 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: in again. He does it one time, he spills it 572 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: and that's it. Um. But I think in terms of 573 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: it allowed the show to do something for pure comedy, 574 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: for a character study. Yeah. I feel like there are 575 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: a lot of ways that our show did that that 576 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: I loved, and I think that was Greg Daniels, you know, 577 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: just doing his thing. I mean, there would be nuggets 578 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: dropped in a monologue like a talking head and you're 579 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,719 Speaker 1: like what, and it's never revisited again. But it's just information. 580 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we all know that Creed did 581 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: action movies in Hong Kong, what you know? Like whatever? 582 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Dwight has some really good ones too, um. 583 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: But I love that about the chili. It's just assumed information. 584 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: And and we start in the middle we don't explain 585 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: to you everything. I was just rewatching um the Halloween 586 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: episode and when Michael leaves he walks right past Hank. 587 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: Never introduced Hank. That's just where he sits. That's who 588 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: he is, his security downstairs. But there weren't these big 589 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: like now we must introduce this and this is a thing. 590 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: It was just like their life, all right, you guys. 591 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: That's it for now. We are out of time, as 592 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: they say, but we will be back with more of Angela, 593 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: I promise in a future episode. And until then, we 594 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: have a bunch more great interviews coming your way. Thank 595 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: you so much for listening, and please please just for me, 596 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: have a great week. The Office. Deep Dive is hosted 597 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive 598 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: producer Langley. Our senior producer is Tessa Kramer, our associate 599 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: producer is Emily Carr, and our assistant editor is the 600 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: A goo Topia. My main man in the booth is 601 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: Alec Moore. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed by 602 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: my great friend Creed Bratton, and the episode was mixed 603 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: by seth Olandski