1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers brought back a souvenir from that mini camp 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: week trip to Egypt. How it's late July, it is 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: trading half time Rogers reporting for duty with the Jets 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Well, the real Joe Burrow please stand up. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: He's back like Abra Cadabra and the Bengals in camp 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: as well. So are the Rams. Matthew Stafford reporting for 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: duty his sixteenth NFL season, twenty three teams at all 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: with their veterans back in the building, and so are 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: we welcome inside with the inside. It's alongside Judy Batista 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: and Mike Darriffolo. I am Tom Pellaicero. Tons of news 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: with veterans showing up. We've got resolutions on some significant 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: contract matters. More Butler going to be joining us to 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: talk about one that's now year resolve. What's going on 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: with the Packers and Jordan Love those contract negotiations. Will 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: talk about the Bears, we'll talk Cardinals, we'll talk Seahawks, Dolphins, 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: a whole lot more. But let's start out with the 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: guy you just saw. Matthew Stafford and the Rams, as 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: first reported by Ian Rappidmore way back during the NFL 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: Draft during one of those times when they come to 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: him and he can't quite tell where he's sitting, but 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: he says a bunch of stuff and then they go 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: back to guys like Daniel Jeremiah, who know what they're 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: talking about. Matthew Stafford and the Rams have resolved an 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: ongoing contract matter, agreeing to terms on an adjustment to 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: get Stafford back in the fold at age thirty five. Mike, 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: we thought that this was probably going to come right 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: around this time. We don't yet know the details. What 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: we do know is Matthew Stafford wanting a little bit 30 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: more security at a time that the quarterback market since 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: he signed that extension after the Super Bowl has completely 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: taken off. They were able to find a middle ground. 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: His security is what we're talking about here. This was 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: not an extension. 35 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: According to Sean McVay, who actually broke the news of 36 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: the renegotiated contract when he spoke to the media at training, give. 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Had made them way for a couple of hours and 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: it was clear that. 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: This was being ironed out and this was the reason 40 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: that he hadn't yet spoken McVeigh, saying Stafford came in, 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 3: spoke to him, spoke to the front office in person, 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: and that really helped get this thing done. Now, he 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: only had fifteen million dollars, only fifteen million dollars beyond 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: this season guaranteed on the next two years of the deal, so. 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: He's still in the contract through twenty twenty six. 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: But we can surmise that he got a lot more 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: guaranteed money here as part of this contract. 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: We'll see if the average per year is bumped up. 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: It was around thirty million dollars the average per year 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: in the last couple of years of the deal, which, 51 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: seeing is how the numbers are now into the fifties, 52 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: this was a veritable bargain for the Rams that they 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: can keep it around that number. 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: But again just giving Stafford some security going forward. 55 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: You know, when we saw that he came in, which 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: we expected that somehow they would figure this out, it 57 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 4: occurred to me, how many more times are we going 58 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: to see something like this? As the quarterback market continues 59 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: to jump jump, jump, jump jump. Are we going to 60 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: see quarterbacks in this position go back and say, well, 61 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: wait a minute, do something to the contract. 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 5: I want more guarantees there. 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: I can't imagine that Matthew Zeffort is the only quarterback 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: who thinks this while they are watching quarterbacks who came 65 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 4: in behind them get. 66 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 5: Contracts that barster pass theirs. I have a feeling this 67 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: is not the last time we're going to hear this. 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Matthew Senter was also one of the last rookie quarterbacks 69 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: to get paid on his original deal prior to the 70 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: Rookie Waite Scale. He's done several contract extensions since. Not 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: purely about the money here, but obviously before he set 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: fight on the field wanted that deal adjusted. They were 73 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: able to get that done. The Cowboys, of course, also 74 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: have a situation ongoing with their quarterback. Let's focus right 75 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: now on the wide receiver in Ceedee Lamb, who did 76 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: not show up for minicamp, made his statement as he 77 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: seeks a contract extension that will put him among if 78 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: not the top wide receiver market that got reset this 79 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: summer by Justin Jefferson. I was told Ceedee Lamb not 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: on the play to California. They actually just touchdown in 81 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Oxnard a few minutes ago. That's not mandatory. Tomorrow Judy 82 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: is reporting date. But it certainly seems like this is 83 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: a continuation of what we saw in the spring and 84 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: the question then becomes, when, if at all, do we 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: see ceedee Lamb a lesson until he gets that new deal. 86 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about. 87 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 4: A lot of wide receivers in this program and the 88 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 4: different approaches they want contracts and how. 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 5: They are approaching coming into training camp. 90 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: In this case, it appears that cd Lamb is not 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 4: going to be with the team when training camp opens, 92 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 4: as you reported. I mean, he obviously could hop on 93 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: a plane and get there in time for tomorrow's reporting date, 94 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: which is mandatory. It appears that he is not going 95 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: to be And I just go back and think we 96 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 4: have spent all off season watching this sort of slow 97 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: motion problem for the Dallas Cowboys. We've talked ad nauseum 98 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: about the Dak Prescott contract, but the CD Lamb one 99 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 4: was playing out at the same time. It's not playing 100 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 4: out at the same time, nothing was happening, and wondering, well, 101 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: something would have to get done by the time they 102 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 4: got to training camp. And here we are on the 103 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: eve of training camp opening at Oxnard. Jack doesn't have 104 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 4: a new contract. CDE Lamb doesn't have a new contract, 105 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: and you just wonder where the Dallas Cowboys are going. 106 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: To go from here where they should go is right 107 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: to the number that justin Jefferson helped set. 108 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: Now that should make this a little easier, right. 109 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: He went first by getting that deal done in about thirty 110 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: five million dollars per year. So that's where you'd expect 111 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: CD Lamb to be, Jamar Chase to be give or 112 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: take a couple of bucks here or there at the 113 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: either side of that thirty five. But at least it 114 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: gives a little zone for the sides to hit. You 115 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: just needed that pressure point. Well here we are. Here's 116 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: the pressure point training camp getting him in there, avoiding 117 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: a hold out, getting this deal done. They talked about 118 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: what CD LAMB means. Well, now it's time to show 119 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: him in monetary form. They also said, hey, we can't 120 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: do a whole lot free azy because we got all 121 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: these big deals coming up. 122 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: Well this is one of them, so now get it 123 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: done well if you want. That's certainly an important metric here. 124 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: But another factor to consider here Sea Lambs eight. Tory 125 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: Dandy kind of invented the three year wide receiver extension. 126 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: The Cowboys historically have wanted to do five six year 127 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: extensions here, so the number of years going to be 128 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: another factor. Of course, Dallas could also franchise tag Seedee 129 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Lamb after the season. Worth monitoring that situation as we 130 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: move forward here. Mary Cooper, former Cowboys wide receiver, also 131 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: wanted a new deal to replace the final year of 132 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: a contract he signed way back when he was still 133 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboy. In Mike, it was the simplest contract 134 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: of all time. It was nearly five years, one hundred million, 135 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: and he got paid twenty twenty, twenty, twenty twenty. Finally, 136 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: in the year five is going to see every bit 137 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: of that deal and maybe a little bit more. 138 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll have the chance to earn a five million 139 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: dollars on top of the twenty million that you talked about, 140 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: which seems fair. Right, you want to get a little 141 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: bit more money, We'll give you the chance to earn it, 142 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 3: but you got to go out there and earn it. 143 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: And this is a guy who throughout the course of 144 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: his career, he's hit one thousand yards and beyond except 145 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: pretty much when he's been injured. So if he stays 146 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 3: healthy and he's on the field, we'll see about the details, 147 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: the finer details of these incentives. But you would think 148 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: that these would be incentives that he has the chance 149 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: to earn again given his past performance. 150 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: We had Andrew Berry here on The Insiders last month. 151 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: He didn't talk about the specifics of the contract negotiation, 152 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: but he talked about what Amari Cooper means, how he 153 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: approaches things, how might they love having him around so 154 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: to get this thing done out as the team reports 155 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: for training camp, certainly was a golfer Andrew Berry that 156 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: he has achieved. 157 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: It's been the summer of the receiver and not just 158 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: goes that Netflix show. Also because guys like Brandon Ayuk, 159 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: who we've talked a lot about on this show. Because 160 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk has talked a lot about himself and what's 161 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: going on for the forty nine ers. He did show 162 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: up for trading camp earlier today. As Mike and Ian 163 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: Rappaport reported, Here's what John Lynch had to say about 164 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: where they stand right now with one of their star players. 165 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 6: We've had great communication. You know, we started this really early. 166 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 6: We made it a priority to try to get done. 167 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 6: We've had excellent communication throughout. You know, really don't want 168 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 6: to characterize we haven't been able to and that's that's 169 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 6: a shame. Not going to get into negotiations, and you know, 170 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 6: Kyle says, there's no absolute so we're open to anything. 171 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 6: And you know, like I said, Brandon's big part of 172 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 6: this team and we expect that he will be going forward. 173 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 6: You fully intended on Brandon being a Niner moving forward. 174 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 6: We're always open to listen to things, but like I said, 175 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 6: we expect Brandon to be an integral part of our 176 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 6: team like he has been, and excited about that. 177 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: I can assure you. Kyle Shanean did talk at other 178 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: points in that press charrass wasn't like a full jay 179 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: and silent avertine they were doing there. Mike, you first 180 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: reported from the golf course. I might add last week 181 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: Brandon you ked requested a trade again. Are you driving 182 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: this storyline forward here? Now he's showing up? What does 183 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: it all mean? 184 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: Well, it means that you've got a potential awkward situation 185 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: on your hands if you're the forty nine ers, But 186 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: it's one that you've been through before. And John Lynch 187 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: was asked about that with Deebo. Samuel said, you know 188 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: you had the confidence in the past you were going 189 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: to be able to work past his trade requests, and 190 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: they did. What makes you so confident here and again 191 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: pointing to what Brandon. 192 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: Ayuk means to the team and the fact that he 193 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: understands it. 194 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes that a player feels this way and you just 195 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: got to get to a point where the sides can 196 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: agree on something. Well, I would say they need to 197 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: go back to engaging in contract negotiations actual offers. 198 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: They haven't done that since May. That's the reason for 199 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: the trade. 200 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 3: Request from Ayuk, in addition to the fact that the 201 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 3: numbers weren't that high. It's is that they haven't had 202 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: those offers back and forth. They had that media a 203 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and the hope on Ayk a 204 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: yuks end was that that was going to help reset 205 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: the negotiations, but Judy that didn't happen. So maybe him 206 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: being in training camp on time when he missed Mini 207 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: caamp will be. 208 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: The impetus to get back to those negotiations. Perhaps we'll see. 209 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 4: Right, we talked about receivers taking different approaches to their 210 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: contract demands. He's going to be in camp and John 211 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: Lynch expects him to practice, so it's not. 212 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: Even going to be a hold in. It's not a holdout. 213 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 4: He's going to be there and practice I thought what 214 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: was interesting is John Lynch didn't entirely slam the door 215 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 4: on the possibility of the trade, said something like no absolutes. 216 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 4: But look, we have been saying this all summer. They 217 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: do not want to trade him. They're trying to win 218 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. They want Brandon Ayuka on the field. 219 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: He's one of the most dynamic players in the entire league. 220 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: They don't want to be in this position. But I agree, 221 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: like you know, if things have sort of cooled off 222 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: in the last few weeks, there just hasn't been much 223 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 4: conversation and much movement, and so I would say, now 224 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: that we are getting into late July, it is time 225 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: to ramp that up again. 226 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 5: As we have said over and over. 227 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: Again, the Niners have a history of doing deals late 228 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 4: in the summer. They're comfortable with that. Now is around 229 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: the time when things should wrap up. 230 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: Though. Forty nine Ers another one of those twenty three 231 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: teams that had veterans support. Today, so are the Miami Dolphins, 232 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: who did us all a favor, who are trying to 233 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: describe social elements on TV by just captioning, Hey, that's 234 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Bradley job. I don't have to guess that is Braxton Burios. 235 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: It goes on and on Tyreek Hill also is there 236 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: so as to a tongue low, we get it here 237 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: from Tua. He's got his own contract situation going on, 238 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: so Hyrie will end up playing out with your quarterback. 239 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: Oh man tour. He's he's in great spirits. 240 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 7: Obviously, I can't speak on his part about the countract 241 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 7: situation because that's his business, his personal business, and as 242 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 7: his teammate, as. 243 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: His brother, I try to stay out today. 244 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 7: But as far as you know how he feels, as 245 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 7: far as like mental health mental health standpoint, he feels amazing. 246 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: He's he's he's very excited to be back in the 247 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: building with all of the guys. 248 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 7: So it's great to see him out there man, you know, 249 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 7: still coming into work, you know, still about his business, 250 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 7: what I have in the deal done, and and it's 251 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 7: just been awesome. Man, just having him having him around, 252 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 7: like just his presence means a lot, you know, to 253 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 7: a lot of the guys. 254 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: Man, so especially me, so exciting. Oh yes, I believe 255 00:11:59,160 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: he will. 256 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 7: And here's why I believe he will practice because two, 257 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 7: he's very competitive. 258 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: He would not tell you that, but he's very competitive 259 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: and he's. 260 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 7: A he's a guy that doesn't like to follow too 261 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 7: far behind, you know, and and he understands that we 262 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 7: have a really good team and. 263 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 8: He doesn't want to miss he miss his window. 264 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 7: Like I said, we got a great offense. You know, 265 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 7: our defense is real good. It's looking real good this year. 266 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: Man. 267 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 7: So he understands all of that. So I believe he's 268 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 7: gonna practice. 269 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: I love that Miami heat where you're toweling yourself off 270 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: right after practice while talking to the media. Let's walk 271 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: him in. Our guy, Cameron Wolfu's down there in that 272 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: Miami heat right now. Cam. I feel like we've been 273 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: talking about the to a contract situation in largely the 274 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: same regard for months, which is that both sides are 275 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: motivated to try to get something done. Dolphins believe they 276 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: have their franchise quarterback to a likes being the Dolphins 277 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, but getting to that number to this point 278 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: has proved elusive. Where do we stand in these talks? Yeah, Tom, 279 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: Today is that Tuas showed up for camp. 280 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 9: From what I've told, negotiations have remained active between Dolphins 281 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 9: into a camp over the last few weeks, but nothing 282 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 9: is done. 283 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: And so as we prepare for their first practice tomorrow. 284 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 9: Morning to it does not have a contract ascension, and 285 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 9: Tua was clear last month that he expects the market 286 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 9: to be the market, and he expects to be paid 287 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 9: in the neighborhood of those big money quarterback deals Jared Golf, 288 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 9: Trevor Lawrence Schoburrow on that fifty three to fifty five 289 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 9: million dollar range. And it appears Jordan Love, who was 290 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 9: into a draft class, is appearing to finalize his deal 291 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 9: soon too, and so that's another. 292 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: Marker for Tua. So the ball is in to his court. 293 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 9: He did report today, so no holdout, but does he 294 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 9: participate in some all or none of the Dolphins first 295 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 9: practice tomorrow. As you heard from Tyreek so eloquently, he 296 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 9: believes too will practice because, as he said, he's competitive, 297 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 9: he doesn't like to fall behind. 298 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: He realizes it's title window. 299 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 9: Jay Lawatto, his other receiver, also said that he expects 300 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 9: him to be practicing playing and he doesn't pipate this 301 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 9: being a distraction. But there is a possibility that Tua decides, hey, 302 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 9: I don't want to do all of practice like he 303 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,479 Speaker 9: did in OTAs and just do seven on seven an individual, 304 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 9: or I don't want to do any of practice until 305 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 9: you pay me. And so it's worth noting that Jordan Love, 306 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 9: who is going through this process as well, has the 307 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 9: same agency as Tua. 308 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: And athletes first. Different agents, but same agency. 309 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 9: And so tomorrow I will be at Dolphins practice to 310 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 9: see what Tula's choice is, which route that he goes. 311 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 9: It was notable hearing from Dolphins running back Raheem Mosher 312 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 9: who said that if Tua decides to skip some of 313 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 9: practice or all of practice, that it could be the 314 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 9: right move and his teammates would understand because it's been 315 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 9: a team first guy, a leader. And so this is 316 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 9: a guy who was in the MVP hunt last year, 317 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 9: stayed healthy for all seventeen games, played the best year 318 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 9: of his career, and I think the Dolphins know they 319 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 9: got to pay him. So we'll keep an eye on 320 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 9: if it happens soon. But right now it looks like 321 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 9: Tooa will enter training camp without that deal. 322 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: Cam As we. 323 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: Looked at the off season and the quarterback deals that 324 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: we expected to get done, a one. 325 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: Of these have really fallen the way that I thought. 326 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: Jordan Love right around the started training camp, if not 327 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: a little bit into training camp, find Jared Goff done early, 328 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: and it was around the draft time a little bit 329 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: after that. 330 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: If I'm recalling correctly, Trevor Lawrence in the spring. 331 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've all kind. 332 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: Of slotted in exactly where I thought they would have, 333 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: except for this one. Like I figured by now, this 334 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: would have been long done. This would have been something 335 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: that would have been done in the spring. I know 336 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: that Tua actually said he would have liked to have 337 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: had it done in the spring. It just didn't come together. 338 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: I don't know why this is taking so long. You 339 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: talked about his agent, Ryan Williams of Athletes first was 340 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: in Miami, and we know that because he posted a 341 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: picture of him and Tua had a couple of their 342 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: other clients at a Zach Bryan concert that Zach Bryan 343 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: then retweeted him or reposted himself. So he was there 344 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: at least in the era to help potentially get this 345 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: thing done before camp. 346 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: It just didn't happen to this point, so it's really confusing. 347 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: Tommy talked earlier about the difference in the length of 348 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: the deals. 349 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: If Tugula Bylowe wants to do a shorter deal than 350 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: he he won't necessarily eclipse Joe Burrow or Jordan Love 351 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: is the highest paid quarterback in the league, but he 352 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: can come in somewhere just below that. So besides, we're 353 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: trying to work out the finer details here to see 354 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: if they can get something done. Perhaps before practice tomorrow. Okay, 355 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 3: we'll see. 356 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: The Dolphins also have been trying to resolve their pass 357 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: uraze really since the tail end of the last season 358 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: when they had all those injuries. They thought they were 359 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: doing that by signing Shaquill Barrett. He ends up retiring 360 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: on the even training camp camp. But they did sign 361 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: another pass rusher today. 362 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, Tom, The Dolphins re signed a Manual Ogba to 363 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 9: a one year deal. I'm told it's worth up to 364 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 9: five million dollars if he reaches all of his incentatives. 365 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 9: And Agma had a workout on Mondayay also with the 366 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 9: on and Gokua, another free agent pass rusher, and Agua's 367 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 9: workout I'm told really well, and they chose to sign Agba. 368 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 9: And look, this is a team where as much as 369 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 9: we talk about quarterback and receiver for them, their defense 370 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 9: is callvergrowing a huge overhaul and pass rush is a 371 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 9: huge issue. Jalen Phillips and Bradley Shobb. Their top two 372 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 9: pass rushers are coming off series achilles in eight steel injuries, 373 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 9: and they also just lost Shack bearit's to retirement, and 374 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 9: so a lot of eyeballs. Ogba he got a limited 375 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 9: opportunity last year and Big Dangio scheme wasn't really a fit. 376 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 9: There should be a better fit in Anthony Weaver's scheme, 377 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 9: and all eyes will be on their first round pick. 378 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 9: Chop Robinson in training gap you could have a much 379 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 9: bigger than a spector role due to all of their. 380 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 3: Thin shut it down a lot of sorry, batted down 381 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 3: a lot of passes according to the Sea roll that 382 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 3: we just showed them. 383 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: Let's see passes defense last year. Oh too, that was 384 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: from the Betels and to what play one one other 385 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: Dolphins Zoe too another one of their off season editions. 386 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: Veteran Odell Beckham Junior placed on the active Fish unable 387 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: to perform lists today. My understanding is he's dealing with 388 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: a lot of minor things. It's not like a new 389 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: acute injury. He's just not ready yet to get back 390 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: to football. So this is the plan to ramp him up. 391 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: That's one of the names we'll be keep an eye 392 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: on here as we move forward. Thank you very much, 393 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: Cam both to talking with you again soon. Vikings also 394 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: had some business that they got done today, agreeing to 395 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: term a contract extension with Christian Darisa. As Ian and 396 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: I first posted. It's a four year extension worth up 397 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: to one hundred and thirteen million dollars in new money. 398 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: He had had his fifth year option for twenty twenty 399 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: five exercise back in the spring, now locked up on 400 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: the blindside of whoever ends up being the Vikings quarterback 401 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: maybe JJ McCarthy through twenty twenty nine. 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That guy the number one 409 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: overall pick, Caleb Williams, one of the early returns for 410 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: the week of training camp so far for the Bears, Well, 411 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: let's guts it next to the insiders. Bears fans gotta 412 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: love this. It's Caleb Williams, It's DJ Moore, It's a connection. 413 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: Nothing better. During the early days of training camp in 414 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: some of those social media height videos, Welcome back to 415 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: the Insiders. Tom Pillicero and Judy Battista joined right now 416 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: by our friend Stacy Dales. Stacy the Bear's course, one 417 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: of the teams they got to report a little bit 418 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: early because they have the Hall of Fame game. We've 419 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: had a few practices in the books now, so give 420 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: me the goods. How's Caleb looking. How's that offense coming together? 421 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, Tom and Judy, he honestly, I was at practice today. 422 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 10: He looked especially sharp today. I think it's just building. 423 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 10: The improvement is just building. We have seen him at 424 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 10: practice as I witnessed today, throwing from different platforms, and 425 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 10: I know everybody as I shot some video here today, 426 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 10: I know the there are no paths, but we see 427 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 10: his ability to throw from the different platforms. We see 428 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 10: the different arm angles. It's really actually just sort of 429 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 10: artistry to watch him on the field with a football. 430 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 10: But what's been really cool is watching his eyes turn 431 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 10: defense defensive players one way and get him going one way, 432 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 10: and then come back to the other way and it's 433 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 10: ones versus ones and he is being challenged, you guys, 434 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 10: because there are nine returning starters on this Bears defense 435 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 10: and it is going to be good. Mark my words. 436 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 10: That is a swag type group on the other side 437 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 10: of the football. And when you have ones versus ones, 438 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 10: what they're doing is they're challenging with tempo. Shane Walder 439 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 10: and the offensive coordinator, has talked about how they've got 440 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 10: to change up the tempo and get Caleb. 441 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 11: Williams to make different decisions. 442 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 10: Mattie Buffles, the head coach, has talked about his improvement 443 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 10: returning from the period just after the mini camps into 444 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 10: training camp, which is roughly five what's six weeks a 445 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 10: month or so, and that has been noticeable. 446 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 5: Shane Waldron has talked about it. 447 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 10: And I asked Darnel right from the offensive line, just 448 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 10: where he sees that cadence in command changing and if 449 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 10: there's improvement. 450 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 11: He said, indeed, there's improvement. You can see it, you 451 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 11: can feel it. 452 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 10: And I think that is really exciting for the Chicago 453 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 10: Bears with all the talent out on that perimeter. 454 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: Well, I think part of what we're seeing not to 455 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 4: take anything away from Caleb williams talent, which is obvious, 456 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: but you're also seeing how rare a situation Caleb Williams 457 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: has been dropped into. Right, Usually when quarterbacks are taken 458 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 4: first overall, they are not going to a team that 459 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 4: has as many pieces in place as the Chicago Bears 460 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 4: have in place for him. They've got one of the 461 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: best wide receiver rooms in the entire league in place, 462 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: They've got a good offensive line. As you were saying, 463 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: that defense is really good, really turned it around at 464 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 4: the midpoint last season. Just compare his situation to for instance, 465 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: Drake Nay in New England, who really went into a 466 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: rebuilding situation, and you're seeing the difference in the result 467 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: even now before they put the pads on. I think, 468 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 4: if anything, we might have to manage expectations for Caleb 469 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: Williams because he has been put into such a great pocision. 470 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: Stacy that Bear's defense. I think that's a lot of 471 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: different Yeah, it had changed last year with you know, 472 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: obviously Alan Williams being there through the course of training 473 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: camp and he's gone early in the season that Eberflus 474 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: ends up taking over. We really saw them play well 475 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: the back half of last season, especially after the Montes 476 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: Sweat trade. Now got a chance for further staff turnover, 477 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more of a settled plan. What 478 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: is this Bears defense going to look like in twenty 479 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: twenty four. 480 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 10: It's only going to look better, Tom I was just 481 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 10: about to say, to Judy's point managing expectations, Well, they 482 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 10: want to exceed expectations. They know there's a level of 483 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 10: accountability with this defense that they want to put into motion. 484 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 10: They got to go out there and improve it. And Jalen 485 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 10: Johnson has talked about it. As to see him right 486 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 10: here on your screen, he's become one of the best 487 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 10: lockdown corners in the game. You mentioned Montese Sweat finally 488 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 10: has an entire offseason right joined in Week nine last season. 489 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 10: Think about a guy like Jervon Dexter, who I saw 490 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 10: in person today. He took the podium as he's a 491 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 10: monster entering his second season and has changed so much 492 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 10: about the way he trains. He will be explosive. Eric Washington, 493 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 10: the defensive coordinator, asked him today because we know they 494 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 10: took the ball away last year and he's new to 495 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 10: this staff. We know they took the ball away. We 496 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 10: know they stopped the run best in the league. What 497 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 10: about the pass rush? 498 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: How good? 499 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 11: What you envisioned that group being like? And he said, 500 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 11: they want to. 501 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 10: Become the best pass rush in the NFL, and they're 502 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 10: going to want to rush with four and get push 503 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 10: up front, hits, sacks, sack fumbles, make the quarterback throw 504 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 10: off schedule in order to let that secondary, which he 505 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 10: called exceptional, take off in the back end of that defense. 506 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: Stacey, Judy, stick around. You're going to be talking with 507 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: Leroy Butler about the Packers in just a little bit. Here. 508 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: What's happening with Jordan Love, what's happening in Arizona with 509 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and the Cardinals. Those expectations taking a step forward. 510 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: Kyler is healthy this time around. One of the focuses 511 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: in camp. Omar Ruiz will tell us next on The Insiders. 512 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: Relive the highs and lows of the twenty twenty three 513 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: NFL season with NFL Plus Premium catch game replays twenty 514 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: four to seven coverage on the NFL Network and here 515 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: up for live out of market pre season games this August. 516 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Sign up today at plus dot NFL dot com. Terms 517 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: and conditions apply. Twenty three teams with their veterans reporting 518 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: to training camp today. That list included the New England Patriots, 519 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: back on the field for the first time in close 520 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: to a Courus century. No more Bill Belichick. Gerrod Mayo 521 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: is the new man in charge, and he's decided, at 522 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: least going into camp here, who's topest quarterback def turn 523 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: Obviously that's the ultimate goal. 524 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 12: And you know, obviously don't take things like that lightly, 525 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 12: but uh, you know, I understand in this league, you know, 526 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 12: and I understand how every day is a challenge, every 527 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 12: day's competition, and I'll ak forward to that and I 528 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 12: feed off that and. 529 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: Looking to go out there and improve it every day. 530 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: The draft, Drake may at number three overall, Judy, this 531 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: is a player who, based on all the coaches and 532 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: scouts I talk to, maybe of all those top six 533 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who went in the draft, he's the furthest one 534 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: away from being ready to play. So makes sense why 535 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: they in advanced went and got a guy like Jacoby Brisette. 536 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: But to hear what Jron Mayo had to say and 537 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: branch Percept's reaction, what jumped out at you. 538 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: It was the consistency of the message they have said 539 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: this since draft Day that they were going to let 540 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 4: this play out organically. They are not putting a timeline 541 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: on when they want Drake May ready. If he happens 542 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 4: to outplay Jacoby Bersette in the pre season, then they 543 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 4: have a decision to make. But they are not looking 544 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: at this and saying Drake May has to be the 545 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: Day one starter. They are perfectly happy to have Jacoby 546 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: for Sets start this season. 547 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 5: He's the perfect guy for this. 548 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: He has spent his entire season, in his entire career 549 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 4: in awkward situations. He knows how to handle them. He 550 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 4: is a great locker, Rundi, a great mentor kind of figure. 551 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: So I think we're just going to let it play 552 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 4: out in New England and they'll see how Drake Nan 553 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 4: looks in preseason, and then if they have a decision 554 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: to make, they'll make it. 555 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: Jacoby for Set's going to be the starter. Otherwise, another 556 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: quarterback competition in camp will we keep an eye on 557 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: is the one in Denver. Mike and unlike John Mayo 558 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: or Kevin o'connin recent days, Sean Payton not not ready 559 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: to give anything away yet in terms of what direction 560 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: this is going to go. No, and it's a three 561 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: way race. This one is fun. 562 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about three different guys ooh Nicks, 563 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 3: Jarrett Sidham and Zach Wilson that are at completely different 564 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: parts of their career and taking different paths. 565 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: To get to this point. This is fun. 566 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: And McGorry ian's texting us about something related to the RAMS. 567 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: And that's throwing me off. Sean Payton not shoving. 568 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: Sean Payton says he's going to mix up the reps 569 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: as it goes. 570 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: Along and let this thing kind of happen along the 571 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: way and figure out who's going to get more reps 572 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: and put himself in position to be the starter from 573 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 3: week one against the Seattle Seahawks. 574 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: So even he can't predict how this is going. I'm 575 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: sure in his. 576 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 3: Mind he's got a leader in the Cubass, but even 577 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: he can't predict how this one is going to go. 578 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: So as far as traditional training camp battles and the 579 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: fact that you've got three guys going, it doesn't get much. 580 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: More fun than this one. Everything I've heard is the 581 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: Bonecks has been exactly what the Broncos wanted. But I've 582 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: also heard jer sim had a really good offseason here 583 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: so absolutely gonna be fun moving forward. Hey, wrapping Ford, 584 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: stop textas during the show, you're not on tonight. We 585 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: are leave us alone a little bit here in Washington. Meanwhile, 586 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: they've also got the rookie quarterback. It's Jane Daniels, the 587 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: number two overall pick. Certainly seems logical that he's going 588 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: to be the one starting in week one to dan Quinn, 589 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: Adam Peters addressing that again today and dan Quinn saying, hey, 590 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: we'll tell you when he's ready. Once he's there. He's 591 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: not there just yet. Obviously they want him to go 592 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: through the camp and compete moving forward. Rice Young didn't 593 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: have to go through a process like that last season. 594 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: He was named QB one all the way back in 595 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: many camp. There's certainly opening year two goes a little 596 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: bit better, maybe even can challenge that playoff drop. 597 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 13: Not at all for us again, I'm true, yeah, fact, 598 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 13: but that's not something we can on control. And also 599 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 13: it's not gonna obviously not gonna gonna help us and 600 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 13: have any I think everyone in the league knows. It's 601 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 13: every every year things changed, you know, And for us, 602 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 13: we're just focused on us earning the right to to 603 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 13: get to where we want to be to accomplish our goals. 604 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 13: And again, whether we won a Super Bowl last year 605 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 13: or whatever happened last year happened, it's not gonna really 606 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 13: help or hurt us this year. We have to do 607 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 13: everything we can and this league got to earn it 608 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 13: every season, so it's all we're focused on. 609 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: The Panthers GM. Dan Morgan also pumping the brakes when 610 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: about potential playoff expectations, Mike, probably a good idea free 611 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: Carolina team that won two games last season and is 612 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: starting over with a new head coach once again, Ian 613 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Dave Canalis. There are expectations though, of playoffs in New Orleans, 614 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: a team that narrowly missed the playoffs literally on tiebreakers 615 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: at the end of last season. Here one of their 616 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: key players we've been tracking throughout the offseason, Alvin Kamara, 617 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: showing up today after walking off the field in mini camp. 618 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: But what exactly does that mean here, Mike, Well, it. 619 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: Means that Mickey Lomis, the general manager, said that he 620 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: was pleased that Kamara was there on time for the 621 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: start of training camp. 622 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: We shall see where it goes. I mean, all these 623 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: guys reporting, it's like, what's going to happen. 624 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: Are they going to practice, are they gonna you know, they're. 625 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: Back going to start to act up. 626 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: Here's Kamara with the Marsha Lynch, who famously was quoted 627 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: as saying, I'm just here so I don't get fine. 628 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: That was at the Super Bowl for media interviews. 629 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 3: This is a little bit different here, so he posted 630 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: that on social media today, So we'll see where it goes. 631 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: I and Tom you know this, Like we've been talking 632 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: you and I throughout the off season. We thought at 633 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: some point, what was it back in March, that this 634 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: thing was close and these sides were. 635 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: Going to come to an agreement. 636 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: Because remember, he's got that big balloon number next year 637 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: that was never meant to be paid out. 638 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: So if they want to get something. 639 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 3: Done to secure him for twenty twenty five without him 640 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: hitting free agency, they got to do it at some 641 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: point before we get to the spring here. So that's 642 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: kind of what the sides have been talking about here. 643 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: Christian mccaffery's deal. They have muddy the waters a little bit, 644 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: at least from Kamaras standpoint, saying, Hey, the place just 645 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: went up, So keep an eye on this one to 646 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: see where it goes. 647 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: And let's be clear, this is not Alvin Kamia seeking 648 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: a raise. This is about the teams trying to figure 649 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: out a launch way to restructure this contract that benefits everybody, 650 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: working on it for months. Just not there yet. Aaron Rodgers, 651 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: of course, got his contract last year with the Jets 652 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: as part of that trade from the Green Bay Packers. 653 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: Photo I got just it's a great dead pad. I'll 654 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: give him that. That's every five year old holding the football. 655 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: Kind of an homage to back in his high school 656 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: days in his senior photo. So he showed up in 657 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: Mission meniamp a son Reddick still not there? What's up? 658 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: Like, Well, Hassan Redick's slated to make fourteen million dollars 659 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: in change here moving forward. He wants a new deal. 660 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: The Jets traded for him made him an offer. This 661 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: was reported earlier and since confirmed. They made an offer 662 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 3: before the trade. They did not have an agreement in place. 663 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: They figured, well, shortly after we make this trade, we're 664 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: close enough, we'll figure it out. 665 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 8: No, and it didn't. 666 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: He for minicamp I was told leading up the training 667 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: camp that he is quote serious about his money from 668 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: somebody close to him, and he's showing it here by 669 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: not being here for the start of training camp. So 670 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: the Jets and has Son Reddick have some work to 671 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: do to get to an agreement for what he believes. 672 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: Is fair and what they're willing to do. Mike, thank 673 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: you very much, talk to you in a few minutes. 674 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: Exciting times for the Arizona Cardinals getting their team out there, 675 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: including that guy, the number four pick, Marvin Harrison Junior. 676 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: As we welcome in our Omar Ruiz in Arizona. Nice 677 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: to get a gift for your quarterback Kyler Murray like 678 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: a Marvin Harrison junior Omar. Also nice to get a 679 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: gift for Drew Petsing entering year two as the offensive 680 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: coordinated What do we expect? 681 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, Drew Petsing is saying that his play calling 682 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 14: is a lot better the better players that he has 683 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 14: on the roster, and certainly Marvin Harrison Junior an example 684 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 14: of the improved weapons around Kyler Murray. Also, when shaping 685 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 14: this offense for year two with Kyler Murray and Drew Petsing, 686 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 14: it sure was nice having Kyler Murray on the field 687 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 14: in the off season instead of asking questions last year 688 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 14: during the off season as Drew Petsing was installing the offense, 689 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 14: like what concepts do you like? How did you see 690 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 14: things on tape? To actually ask Kyler, what did you 691 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 14: see from the defense on that particular play? Do you 692 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 14: like this particular route? So they're able to shape the 693 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 14: offense that way. Also the number of weapons around Kyler Murray. 694 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 14: Petsying saying that they feel that they'll be able to 695 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 14: go into week to week offensive game plans and attack 696 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 14: defenses different ways depending on what they see from the 697 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 14: defense's weakness week to week. So having that flexibility will 698 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 14: help shape this offense. Petsying's saying that he wants this 699 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 14: to be balanced and it's not necessarily run past fifty 700 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 14: to fifty. He's saying, it's being able to do what 701 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 14: they want to do when they want to do it. 702 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 14: That'll be key for the Cardinals in the twenty four season. 703 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 14: Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior hopefully big parts of 704 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 14: that for the Cardinals. 705 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the NFC West, the Seahawks also have a 706 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: fascinating situation on offense. Obviously a lot of changes in 707 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: that building, but Ryan Grubb, who had success at Washington, 708 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: was the O s at Alabama for like ten seconds, 709 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: Fims get lured by Mike McDonald up to Seattle. How 710 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: are they building out this offense with Grubb for the NFL? 711 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 14: Well, obviously, Grubb made the most of his weapons around 712 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 14: Michael Pennock junior at the University of Washington with Romadoza, 713 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 14: Jalen McMillan, Jalen Polk. 714 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: Now hoping to do the same with. 715 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 14: Dk Metcalf and Tyler Lockett and Noah Finn, Jackson Smith 716 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 14: and Jigba and Zach Charbonay. 717 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: And Kenneth Walker. 718 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 14: And then there's the teacher, the person that Gino Smith 719 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 14: raves about seeing from Ryan Grubb, Grubbs saying that if 720 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 14: he went back and watched Gino Smith all the way 721 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 14: back in his days at West Virginia to see how 722 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 14: he has evolved as a player, how best he can 723 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 14: utilize him. And as one Seahawks source described grub to me, 724 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 14: he is a natural born play caller. An example that 725 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 14: fourth than one in the Apple Cup for the University 726 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 14: of Washington going against Washington State, they're at their own 727 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 14: twenty nine fourth and one fake dive to the running 728 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 14: back ends up being an end around to Roma Dune 729 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 14: say twenty three yards just over a minute left. 730 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: They end up kicking the field goal to win. 731 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 14: It's not just being able to call that play in 732 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 14: those big moments, it is all the preparation that goes 733 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 14: into it to have that justified confidence to make those plays. 734 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 14: Drew similar comparisons to Ben Johnson in that repart. If 735 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 14: they can get that offense looking like that Lion's offense 736 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 14: the last couple years of Ben Johnson, that would be 737 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 14: a big win for the Seahawks. 738 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: Not a leap to say this Seahawks offense has the 739 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to be pretty good right out of the gate. 740 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Palmar. And speaking of leaves, how 741 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: about the guy who invited the lambo leaf, Larroy Butler. 742 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: What does he make of this team from the Jordan 743 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: Love contract situation. We'll ask him. 744 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 15: Next on the inside, Welcome back to the Insiders, Judy Batista, 745 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 15: Stacey Dale's and the star of that video, friend of 746 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 15: the show, Packers great Hall of Famer will Roy Butler 747 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 15: had a belated happy birthday to you, Leroy. 748 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. 749 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 8: Thank you so much. 750 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely, let's get right to it, because the Packers are 751 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 4: already into training camp. Jordan Love is not practicing. Although 752 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 4: he's there, there seems to be a lot of optimism 753 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 4: that the contract is going to get done. What do 754 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 4: you expect from him once the contract gets done and 755 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 4: we see him on the field, where do you think 756 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 4: he can go from where he ended last season? 757 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 8: Well, I just want to let people know that to 758 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 8: not panic that he is not signed yet. And I 759 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 8: thought it was smart by the team and him to 760 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 8: come to camp and they're gonna work it out. Why practice, 761 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 8: you know, if you're not gonna get your contract done. 762 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 8: So it's not really a holdout. I mean, I think 763 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 8: for the most part the whole off season they've been 764 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 8: talking about this. Yes, they're gonna sign him too a 765 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 8: deal now. I think me personally, I have no inside 766 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 8: infermistion for disclosure because I'm on the board. I think 767 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 8: some of the language could hold up because I think 768 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 8: he should get a no trade clause him and the 769 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 8: team should make sure he break this this old guard 770 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 8: up of having a quarterback not finish his career in 771 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 8: Green Bay. So he should be able to wave up 772 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 8: trade claws and so does the team. The money is 773 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 8: not big of an issue if you think about it. 774 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 8: I thought it was gonna be a three year deal 775 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 8: averaging about sixty million a year. So in the short 776 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 8: term you'd be like the highest paid. But it's not 777 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 8: a long term deal. Do like Tom Brady. Don't never 778 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 8: be the highest paid. Tom Brady is the richest. 779 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 5: He's the richest. 780 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 11: You know you got inside information, Leroy, We know you guy, 781 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 11: But okay, should we put those numbers on the record. 782 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 11: Here's my thing, though, Leroy, I mean you know this. 783 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 10: They were the youngest team, the youngest roster in the 784 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 10: NFL last season, the first really in the Super Bowl era, 785 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 10: the youngest roster to win a playoff game. 786 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 5: You watched it, Judy watched it. 787 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: I watched it. 788 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 10: Everybody out there watched it. Doesn't it kind of feel 789 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,479 Speaker 10: a little bit weird? He's not out there. They didn't 790 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 10: get it done with this nucleus of young receivers. 791 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 8: No, what would have been weird, Stacey had he been 792 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 8: like Brandon, no you and not even show up and 793 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 8: play hardball. Yeah, he was here when it wasn't mandatory. 794 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 8: He was always here. As matter of fact, he's in 795 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 8: every meeting. He walks out with the coach, I mean 796 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 8: talking So the good thing about it is the language. 797 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 8: You gotta get it right because you only have one 798 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 8: chance at the body to Apple for your first major contract. 799 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 8: And the reason why it's going to benefit the team 800 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 8: because it'll be an extension instead of a new deal. Remember, 801 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 8: he bet on himself last year when he signed the extension. 802 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 8: He's scheduled to make like eleven million dollars, so outside 803 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 8: the state is really not that big of a deal. 804 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 8: But I will say this, I did not want to 805 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 8: see the headlines of Jordan Love and a contract to 806 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 8: be a distraction. But they're going to work it out. 807 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 8: He's there, and I think the good thing about it 808 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 8: is they've already told him that they're going to do it. 809 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 8: They're just working out the language stuff. 810 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 4: Right before we let you go quickly, I want to 811 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 4: turn to the defense because there's a whole lot of flups. 812 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: There, a lot of. 813 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 4: Changes there, new defensive coordinators, some questions about the pass defense, 814 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: especially the secondary and area of the team. You know, well, 815 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 4: so give us your scouting report on what that defense 816 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 4: is going to look like this year real quick. 817 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 8: They had a different defense of three four defense, so 818 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 8: this year happily comes in and now it's a four 819 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 8: to three defense. So now you have to ask some 820 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 8: of the guys who stood up then that's and Rashad Gary, 821 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 8: are you gonna put your hand in the ground to 822 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 8: become ends. But they just signed Kenny Clark by the way, 823 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 8: you know, I don't think they're gonna do Jordan Love's contract. 824 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 8: And to Kenny, get out of the way to congratulates McKenny. 825 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 8: But quickly the reason why Examer McKinney is gonna be 826 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 8: so helpful to this defense. He can cover, he can 827 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 8: play the deep middle, and he can play down in 828 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 8: the box. His defense is gonna be attacking style defense. 829 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 8: But they gotta be smart. If I had to choose, 830 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 8: I want to attacking style defense or I want a 831 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 8: smart defense, I will always choose a smart defense. If 832 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 8: you think about when you're twenty one to seventeen going 833 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 8: into the fourth quarter, you have to figure out ways 834 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 8: to get off the field. But they were only three 835 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 8: plays away from going to playing for the NFC Championship 836 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 8: game again on the Matt Lafloor. 837 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 4: Right, thank you for joining the show again. You are 838 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 4: always welcome here. I'm sure we're going to see you 839 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 4: as camps roll on I'm. 840 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 8: Glad I had to do it with my baby Jess. 841 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 11: We didn't even get if they're going to the Super Bowl. Ry, 842 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 11: we didn't even hear it. 843 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, they going to the Super Bowl. Beca New Orleans. 844 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 8: I want Super Bowl thirty one in Super Bowl in 845 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 8: New Orleans thirty one. Thank you Steve for that plod. 846 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 4: When we come back on The Insiders, still more news. 847 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 4: It was a really busy day in the NFL, including 848 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 4: news about Jaguar's cornerback Tyson Campbell coming up next. 849 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: Hi, now for the last call here on The Insiders. 850 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: Tom Pilla, Sero, Gdbatista, Mike Gara, Fullo back with you. 851 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: The Jaguars have locked up one of their home grown 852 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: stars greata terms today, with cornerback Tyson jan Campbell on 853 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: a four year, seventy six point five million dollar extension. 854 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: A guy, Mike, who I have made the Pro Bowl, 855 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: but this deal indicates they think he can play at 856 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: that level. 857 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get that done ahead of time before it 858 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 2: gets more expensive. 859 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, staying in Florida, have placed 860 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 3: Randy Gregory on the reserve did not Report list when 861 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 3: he did not report for the start of training camp. 862 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: Remember he was not there for Mini camp either. That 863 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 3: was an unexcused absence. He's got an active lawsuit against 864 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 3: the NFL and the Broncos saying he was prescribed a 865 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 3: drug that they will not let him use for his 866 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 3: social anxiety. So we'll see if Brandy Gregory winds up 867 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: reporting to the Buccaneers win. 868 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: If at all. 869 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 4: We have talked about a lot of wide receivers, there's 870 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 4: another one. Bronco's coach Sean Payton says Courtland Suddeny is 871 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 4: going to be at camp and ready to go. He 872 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 4: wants a new contract too. 873 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,959 Speaker 5: But apparently he is coming into camp. 874 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: While he waits, no one else is ready to go. 875 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: Judy that blazer, you're a human chroma key, which gave 876 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: the control room an idea. Can we see maybe some 877 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: other looks so we can put on Julia like the 878 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,959 Speaker 1: red that you know, we can really leaves every color 879 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: were blue. I think that that works as well. Uh 880 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: that's my look. She looks like dressed like me. Now 881 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: that's that's more famous. 882 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 9: I like that. 883 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: Like the rest of the teams, report the training camp tomorrow, 884 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: we'll be here with you. Tune into the Insiders Fexas 885 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: Real Good tenncy 886 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 15: M h m hm