1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. All Right, folks, now, 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: let's get to a region of the world that we 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: are seeing increasingly catch the attention of investors. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: And that is India. JP Morgan, CEO Jamie diamond says 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 2: there's a substantial opportunity for India as companies look to 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: diversify their supply chains away from China. Let's according to 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: an interview with US CNBC TV eighteen. He did caution, though, 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: that the transition will take years as firms navigate the 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: complexities of relocating operations. Increasingly, Carol, we see a growing 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: number of stories about companies expanding their presence in India 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: and investors certainly making bets there. 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I printed out a bunch of them with a 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: view on the Indian economy. We are delighted to have 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: with us the chairman of the State Bank of India CSSETI, 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: which is the largest public sector bank and the biggest 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: lender in India. He joins us here in studio, chair 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: SETI so nice to have you here on Bloomberg Television 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: and Radio. You were in DC. Let's start there for 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: the IMF meetings. What if the meetings gave you optimism 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: for India and the World War broad and what did not. 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on the show. I think 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: the positive news which are merged and the IMF matings 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: is that global inflation is coming down. I'd say it's 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: a good news. While the growth rate seems to be moderate, 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: still in the range of three to three point five percent. 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: The bright spark, obviously is India, which is expected to 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: grow at around seven percent to seven point two percent. 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: Even the IMF play places the growth rate out of 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: seven percent, the Central Bank of India believes that the 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: growth rate could be seven point two percent. I think 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's a really interesting story which 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: is unfolding in India, both in terms of growth trajectory 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: which the country is taking on, and the equity market 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: is doing well and the inflation is also moderating there 35 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: while the food inflation is still a matter of concern. 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: Then, so let's talk about some different sectors of the economy. 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: You heard me mention the comments by Jamie Diamond over 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: at JP Morgan Chase about supply chains transitioning to India 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: on the ground, what can you tell us about that 40 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: actually happening in India right now. 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's most visible success stories. Of course, 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: Apple twenty five percent of Apple sixteen is produced in India. 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: A couple of things which are very seriously being pursued 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: by the Government of India is a performance linked incentive 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: for various industries, more than sixteen to twenty industries, particularly 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 3: in the areas of electronics and you know, semiconductors. So 47 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: these are the sectors which are getting the performance linked 48 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: incentive from the Government of India. And there's a good 49 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: amount of foreign capital which is coming into these sectors. 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what in particular tell us a little bit 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: about that. I think I'm not kidding when we say 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: the ton of stories. I have a pile stock stories 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: India clipsing China and MSCI Global stock ages to dry flows. 54 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: That was back in mid September. Blackstone sees Asia as 55 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: growth engine, has scale in India. 56 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: Juans and Wong was there last week Brookfield. 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: To add to its thirteen billion dollar bet on India's projects. 58 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: So there's so much going on. You point that out. 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: We're in particular give us some insight for our Bloomberg audience, 60 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: who's a global audience, but where the money has picked 61 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: up dramatically. 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: So the money is mainly coming in the couple of sectors, 63 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: particularly in the renewables. I think there's a huge amount 64 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: of focus with the commitment what India has given under 65 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: the twenty six that you know, by twenty thirty, the 66 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: addition in the renew br energy would be almost five 67 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: hundred gigabytes. That is attracting a lot of attention. And 68 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: the logies sticks is another area, the ware housing, roads, sports, 69 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: These are all the areas which are attracting the global 70 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: investment in a big manner. 71 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: You know, I was in India now like ten twelve 72 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: years ago and one of the things that I found 73 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: so dramatic, and it was a trip that I took 74 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: it like two in the morning with my team. We 75 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: were going to Agra to see the taj Mahal. But 76 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: what was fascinating is that's when you saw everything moving around, 77 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: because that's when the roads were less busy and just 78 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: so much infrastructure moving around. What can you tell us 79 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: too about the infrastructure build out that many have deemed 80 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: so necessary to take India to the next level. 81 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think one of the most important requirements for 82 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: Indian economy to continue to grow is strengthening the infrastructure. 83 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: And there are two things which are happening. I think 84 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: there's a significant government expenditure capital expenditure which is focused 85 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: on the infrastructure building up, and there's a private investment 86 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: also is coming in in a big manner. In terms 87 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: of infrastructure, we see a lot of airports being built, 88 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: seaports being strengthened, and road network of course is one 89 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: of the best now in India. And we have dedicated 90 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: freight corridors which are coming in, you know, to enhanced 91 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: the speed of moving the roots from one place to another. 92 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, I was just going to say 93 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: we only have a few minutes left, but I want 94 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: to move from the macro to the micro and talk 95 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: a little about your plans over at SBI and where 96 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: you're thinking about expansion in terms of parts that you're 97 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: focused on growing. What are the goals for growth over 98 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: the next six months two years. 99 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: So, as you know, I think in terms of the reach, 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: we have one of the best reaches. We have the 101 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: largest network of branches, largest network of ATMs. We have 102 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: served almost five hundred million customers and every Indian family 103 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: in some way you know, is engaged with SBI. We 104 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: have significantly invested in the technology and digitalization in the 105 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: last two three years, and we would like to leverage 106 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 3: that technology and digitalization to reach the underserved unserved across 107 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 3: the country. Still, I think, you know, there are a 108 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: lot of banking needs which are unmat in India which 109 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: we want to reach them. And this investment in technology 110 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: and digitalization has helped us to reach the bottom of 111 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: the pyramid in a much lower cost, which means that 112 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: you know, the investment in technology helped us to increase 113 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: our operational efficiency. My focus in the next six months 114 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: would be that how do I leverage the investments of 115 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: what we met in technology to increase the operational efficiency 116 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: and productivity for employees. 117 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: I am curious too that you know, we've noticed too 118 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: that deposits have been challenging for a lot of really 119 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: all Indian lenders for the past few quarters. So your 120 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: strategies that have worked and what else do you plan 121 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: to do what's really worked in terms of building out 122 00:06:59,480 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: the positive. 123 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. One thing, of course is you know, in India, 124 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: despite so much digitalization, Yeah, the physical presence is very 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: much important in terms of deposit mobilization, and we have 126 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: the largest physical presence there number two we have. 127 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: Does that mean you continue to build out the physical 128 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: presence we do. 129 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: We want to enter into areas where we know we 130 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: don't have a branch, we would like to set up 131 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 3: that physical branch. And we have a very strong mobile 132 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: application which is you know currently you will be surprised 133 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: that every day we open fifty to sixty thousand Savings 134 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: Bank account a day, so we have twenty seven percent 135 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: market share and Savings Bank which is the low cost deposits. 136 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: So our focus would be, you know, how to be 137 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: strengthen this franchise and start mobilizing more and more low 138 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: cost deposits. 139 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: And increasingly just got about fifteen seconds. Are they wealthier 140 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: deposits too? That you're noticing a lot of wealth creation 141 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: we're seeing in India and. 142 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: We have largest number of clients who qualify to be 143 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: wealth management customers and we are investing in wealth management technology. 144 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: To reach out to the air AI too. Just quick ya. 145 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: Of course there's a large scale adoption of the I. 146 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: You can't you can't speak about banking without talking about. 147 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: You can't speak about anything it assumes without talking about AI. 148 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: Chair SETI thank you so much. We really appreciate it 149 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: c s Seti, Chairman of the State Bank of India. 150 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: For those who are watching on TV, the closes coming 151 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: your way. Tim and I continue on Business Week