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Speaker 1: You still have the house? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't plan on getting rid of it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, tomorrow's the day I am going to meet

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Speaker 1: my dad after all this time. What do you think

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Speaker 1: Thinking out of my bag, I have that which is

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Speaker 1: wednsing so well. I love how proud you are a

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Speaker 1: little late. I'm sorry, just pay you said when the

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Speaker 1: horse is over. That's why I could get Kobe back.

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Speaker 1: I never got to see my dog.

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Speaker 2: Aye, I'm glad you're telling me now, which I can

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Speaker 2: tell you. I'm sorry. He would have probably have been

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Speaker 1: All right, Bet, it's a great dog.

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Speaker 3: I'm not pushing you into anything, but I'll see you again.

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Speaker 2: I want to see you again.

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Speaker 1: I think you know Dave my day. I'm here to

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Speaker 1: talk about my life and you're a voice in that.

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 1: I got to be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: It feels like I'm setting myself up for a fall.

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Speaker 4: After I secretly recorded the first meeting with my father

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Speaker 4: at the Second Avenue Deli, I ended up telling him

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Speaker 4: all about the podcast, but he had a ton of concerns.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking to show that you're an interesting person. You're

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Speaker 1: a person that I haven't talked to you in twenty

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Speaker 1: four years. But what's the reason for that, you know,

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Speaker 1: and like what is the reason for that? Can you

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Will that tell somebody? Well, that's what'll That's what I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about. You know, it's like

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Speaker 1: me ask you something. Yeah, do you plan on using

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Speaker 1: By that, like, we'll you using it in any way

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Speaker 1: it's to make a podcast. That's what this is for.

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Speaker 1: The next step is to go to the house to

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Speaker 2: Okay, but no video, no cameras, no pictures.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I wouldn't be doing that, okay, but yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just telling you there's no leeway there.

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Speaker 1: So you let me search you if I want to.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you still get your balls. Yeah. No, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is there something you want to take away with you

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Speaker 1: when you come? Is that part of your plan. There's

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Speaker 1: no part of my plan.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, if you did have the Adam gravestick,

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Speaker 4: So the Rangers would go on to win, and my

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Speaker 4: I was beside myself. What also made this night so

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Speaker 4: Of course, he succeeded. I remember lying in bed did

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Speaker 4: Adam Graves stick next to me, thinking what a cool night?

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Speaker 4: And I guess the stick helps cherish this memory a

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Speaker 1: I don't have any control here. It's all in your hands.

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Speaker 4: So would you.

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Speaker 1: We need it? Do you have a fun with that? Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, Okay, all right, listen me. Can I tell

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Speaker 1: It's nothing that in my power. If it's reasonable that

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Speaker 1: Testing one two test test test testing. All right, I

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Speaker 1: Then we'll say if he actually lets me in, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. There we go, m hm hm.

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Speaker 2: Does it looks the same?

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Speaker 1: Looks a little? I mean it looks very similar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the stuff here and yeah, I'll mike you up.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to talk financeers some money about it.

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Speaker 1: No, it's fun. Just leave out whatever you don't want. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah, I just don't talk about anything you don't.

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Speaker 4: So this is how a father and son from Long

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on, hold on one second, hold on. What

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Speaker 3: I want you to do is I want you to

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Speaker 3: is part of the podcast and whatever is being said

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Speaker 3: here could be exaggerated for the purposes of entertainment. Entertainment,

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Speaker 4: Before my father would let me in the house, he

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Speaker 3: Okay, you introduce yourself, man, all right, look at you.

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Speaker 2: You look so handsome, my boy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, well, anyway, here we are. My name's Gary

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Speaker 1: Veter we're doing a podcast with my father or insure

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Speaker 1: look alike. And this podcast we're doing, it's for entertainment,

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Speaker 2: What's that I'm number one, number one dead and the name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy to be here with my son.

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Speaker 3: It's been twenty four years since we've had any real

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Speaker 4: It's pretty crazy to hear stuff like that from my father.

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Speaker 4: He still doesn't get the role he pleaded in us

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 3: You know, whenever I had an idea, when I said

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I pulled it off. Do you recall that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the room that we met Jordan's and

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Speaker 1: it was him and the coach Til Jackson was in there,

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Speaker 3: It was like a private room where they let him

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Speaker 3: just relax by himself. Yeah, but he was sitting on

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Speaker 1: No, he was just in there. He was just like

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Speaker 3: See these bikes, you know what I do with them?

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Speaker 2: I fix them and I give them to local kids.

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Speaker 1: It's the bikes, the bike story, the part that's fabricated

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Speaker 2: The podcasts. They of a good next to the truth. Buses

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Speaker 2: The time, Well, they got a camera.

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Speaker 2: I got a two hundred dollars ticket.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: But I'm fighting it.

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Speaker 3: They said, I rolled by the camera. The fucking picture

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's good, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to court over you fuck them. I

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Speaker 1: I know two things you told me. One thing, never

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Speaker 4: When you're raised by a con man, you grow up

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Speaker 4: As we walked from the front of the house to

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Speaker 2: Here going into the house. That he was my key

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Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this. This you know means a lot.

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Speaker 3: Well, Hey, I did it because when you first asked,

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Speaker 2: But okay, step over here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Oh wow, that picture which one right there? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That one was taken in Pennsylvania. We were near a

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Speaker 1: Was there right next to me. Is there there's another picture.

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Speaker 3: There's another picture. Go climb over there, squeeze through, you

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: Their boxes everywhere, just like my family life growing up.

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Speaker 4: The house is an absolute mess. Honestly, it looks like

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Speaker 4: nothing has been grown out in twenty four years.

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Speaker 2: We move those move that big blue box. So I

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Speaker 1: It could see the picture.

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Speaker 2: What is that picture?

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Speaker 1: It's Jamie and Danny and uh this is their Sada Israel.

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Speaker 2: It's Missada. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want you to get pissed. I don't

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Speaker 3: show too many pictures of you. It's not intentional. But

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Speaker 1: So did all your other children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know that was their choice, not mine.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know everything, you know I you know, you're

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Speaker 1: of course it's me.

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Speaker 4: Not only did my house look almost exactly the same

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Speaker 4: But of all the things I'd seen so far, this

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Speaker 1: It's a great picture of me playing hockey.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to remember it because it has

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Speaker 1: You call me that? B Yeah, they're not at that.

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Speaker 2: What is work in progress? What is bubbla mean?

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Speaker 1: Blah blah? I don't know. I guess this is your

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Speaker 3: It's an term of endearment when you're a little boy

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Speaker 4: We walked up to my old bedroom and all my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, coime, here, this is what you did.

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Speaker 3: You were pissed at me, so I told you you

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Speaker 2: That's where I was. You remember doing that?

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Speaker 1: There's gum in here, that's how old it is.

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Speaker 1: I was definitely I'm going to give us. What is

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Speaker 3: What's amazing? Did I get the voice from your mother?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't keeping things to to what to

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Speaker 3: By the way, did you ever get the checks that

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Speaker 2: Did she say that too?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea of what if I was getting anything.

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Speaker 3: Send child support payments and I sent it to how

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Speaker 3: You remember that plaque I got you?

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Speaker 2: Which one right in front of you?

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Speaker 1: This? Yeah, I don't remember you getting it for me,

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Speaker 2: I got it.

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Speaker 3: I made a trade with somebody at his or you

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Speaker 3: His phone wasn't working, so I fixed it and he said,

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Speaker 3: what do you want how much?

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Speaker 2: So give me that plaque.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing how many times somebody's phone wouldn't work

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you ever think you'd see this day?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, that you'd be back in your room?

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Speaker 1: Did I know I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I know you said you wanted to take the Adam gravestick.

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Speaker 2: Belongs to you, of course I'll let you. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not here to hold anything over your head. Hey, let

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Speaker 3: Last time you're coming back to look for things.

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Speaker 2: All right, okay, thank you? Just don't think a piece

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Speaker 2: What is it? It's a trick. Huh, it's a trick.

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Speaker 2: This is a trick.

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Speaker 2: And it snaps your finger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't give it to uh Sullivan, I'd love it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is he talking?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, he talks and smart kid.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 1: This is nuts here.

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Speaker 4: I am standing in my child's bedroom talking to my

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Speaker 2: Let me ask her something.

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Speaker 3: Everything that you were told during and just before the divorce,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't understand. I also lived in this environment,

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Speaker 3: Was that the reason I did that or was it

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Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to walk the dog. The dog one I

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Speaker 2: Which was wrong. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then when it came down to when you guys

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Speaker 3: You said, after the divorce, yeah, reminded me.

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Speaker 2: Well things happened.

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Speaker 4: I'm aware how much I keep bringing up my dog Kobe,

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Speaker 1: So your question, I mean we did all this stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: It was? Everything was for you. I wanted you to

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Speaker 4: You know, asking my father did he do this for me?

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Speaker 4: All those times we stuck into the garden, I think

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Speaker 1: Can I take this only if you want me to

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a stick, but more than you having the

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Speaker 3: I want you as my son.

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Speaker 1: Well, time will tell I'm not I'm not guaranteeing anything,

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Speaker 2: And what if your sisters get on your case for this?

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Speaker 1: And I mean it doesn't have anything to do with them.

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Speaker 1: You know, you say so, but you know, like you

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Speaker 1: even though the hockey stick never meant anything close to

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you wanted to hurt them

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Speaker 2: And you know, maybe not now later you'll understand that.

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Speaker 1: Well, my intention was never to hurt them. My intention

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Speaker 1: when you know, Kobe is the thing that I love

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Speaker 2: You called or she called, she didn't give a fuck.

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Speaker 2: She wanted to put me in jail.

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Speaker 3: When I saw what I was dealing with at that point, well,

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Speaker 2: I was going to do everything I can to hurt it.

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Speaker 1: Why are you telling me this that none of this matters.

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Speaker 3: Because you're telling me about why everybody hates me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you why I bade. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: and all right relationship because.

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Speaker 2: You were told shit.

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Speaker 3: That's why a lot of shit that you were told

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Speaker 1: You're saying that I wasso ship, but I'm saying about

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Speaker 1: Was not.

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Speaker 2: There to intentionally hurt you. Never. I mean, when you

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Speaker 1: He did the stuff about the dog, and okay, I did.

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Speaker 3: This stuff about the dog, but unfortunately Kobe's not here.

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Speaker 2: I had him to he was seventeen years old. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he had a good life. He fucking slept with me

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Speaker 2: every night, yeah, on the bed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would have loved to have had my dog.

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Speaker 4: This is the most honest conversation I've ever had with

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Speaker 1: Was he always like this?

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Speaker 4: What drove him to live his life this way? Well,

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Speaker 4: episode of Number One Dad.

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Speaker 2: All about delusion like a magician.

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Speaker 3: I was a magician in the furniture business.

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Speaker 1: What was the downfall of Designers Gallery?

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Speaker 2: New York State Attorney General?

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Speaker 3: I said, if I don't call you back for bullshit

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Speaker 3: in five minutes down nine one wanted Tom to come.

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Speaker 2: To the thinkers.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting locked in a freezer somewhere.

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Speaker 1: So why not just pay your bill?

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Speaker 3: Because I was a greedy fuck and I wanted the

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Speaker 3: money and I wanted it now.

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Speaker 4: Number One Dad is a production of Radio Point, Big

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Speaker 4: Money Players Network and iHeart Podcasts, created and hosted by

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Speaker 4: Gary Veeter.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers are.

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Speaker 4: Gary Veeter, Adam Lowett, Alex Bach, Daniel Powell, Houston Snyder,

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Speaker 4: Kenneth Slotnik, and Brian Stern, written by Gary Veeter and

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Speaker 4: Adam Lowett, Produced by Bernie Kaminski. Co producer is Taylor Kowalski,

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Speaker 4: Edited and mixed by Ian Sortino at Little Bear Audio.

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Speaker 4: Recording Engineer Is kat Iosa. Original music by Andrew Gross.

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Speaker 4: Special thanks to Charlotte DeAnda. Jonathan karsh Is creative consultant.

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Speaker 4: Executive producers for Big Money Players Network and iHeart Podcasts

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Speaker 4: are Will Farrell Hansani and Olivia Aguilar. Sound services were

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Speaker 4: provided by Great City Posts.