1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Hey, this is exciting My guests today. Well, first off, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: there's two of them, so it's double the fun. They 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: are naturally very funny people. They're also very kind and 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: warm people, and I really enjoyed chatting with them. It's 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: funny because, you know, I interviewed my wife a few 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: weeks back, and that was a really rare occasion for us. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: But this couple that I talked to today, they seem 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: to love being interviewed and they do it really well, 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: even if they are from zooming from different places, probably 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: different parts of their house, but I don't know. But 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: my guests today are Seth Rogan and his wife, Lauren 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: Miller Rogan. So listen up, lean in. I'm glad you're here. 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: I am super excited today to have Lauren Miller Rogan 14 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: and Seth Rogan on the podcast. 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: You guys are the first couple that we've had. You're 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: probably not going to be surprised to hear that. Uh. 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: And it's also a little bit coincidental because the second 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: podcast that I'm going to do today, I'm going to 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: interview my wife, which should be interesting, you know, I mean, 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: good good. 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: Luck with that. 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe this is a good warm up. I don't 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: know what exactly, yeah, exactly, but I mean, listen, you know, 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I have a feeling that you, the 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: two of you, don't often do the interviews together. Am 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: I right about that? 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: Not our first? 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: First, we've Yeah, we've done a couple, We've done a 31 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: couple of ye. Yeah. 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean I guess I guess your involvement with the 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: with the charity has made that, you know, kind of possible. 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: I know that for Kira and me, we try to 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: avoid it, like the plague and the Yeah. I mean, 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: the problem with it to me is, and I'm saying 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: this because I'm about to jump into this, is the 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: questions are just irritating. Do you How do you feel 39 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: about answering questions about your marriage? I guess that's what 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 4: I feel like because often the interviews that we do 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: together are focused on our charity. They generally are focused 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 4: on our charity, whereas you know, I guess in those 44 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: moments where we're doing things that are not focused on 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: our charity. Sure, the last about our marriage, and it's 46 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 4: just like you know, it depends on how you're. 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: Feeling and what you want to share. 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: I think it's like we do share a chunk of 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 4: our personal life having this organization, but certainly there are 50 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 4: many things we do not want to talk about and 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: do not so you know, it's it's always like, you know, 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 4: I feel like it depends on the day, right, Like 53 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: I don't know, Seth, what do you think? 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like we haven't you know, I feel 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 5: like we both have I have a good sense of 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 5: one another's discretionary preferences. But yeah, you know, also like 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 5: we come from a place where, like when we first 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 5: started dating, I was on like Howard Stern every other year, 59 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 5: so like a lot of it came out. Probably that 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 5: a lot more came out than I would have preferred it. 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: Probably much earlier. 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: On in retrospect. 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 3: And never listen to how long? 64 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: How long have you been married? 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: We've been married for twelve years, but we've been together 66 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 4: for over eighteen. 67 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Now, amazing. Wow, And how did you how did you meet? 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: We met? 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 5: I was a writer on The Ali g Show in 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 5: two thousand and four, and I was twenty two. I 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 5: guess twenty four, yeah, twenty two, And my friend Will 72 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 5: Riser was a producer on the show, and he was 73 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: around our age. 74 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: He was a year older basically, and he was dating 75 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: my friend Lawrence basically. 76 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so so yeah, they kind of suggested that 77 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: we would like each other and we all went to 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: a party one night together and and that was it. 79 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 80 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: So I mean, I gotta say it's it's probably I 81 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: don't know, not that often that when you hear those stories, 82 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: it's I always think, isn't that great that somebody had 83 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: had the understanding the friends could have the understanding of 84 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: two people to know that they would be you know, 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: it's kind of beautiful in a way to have friends 86 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: that would like kind of get get that. On the 87 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: other hand, it doesn't happen that often though. 88 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: I know. 89 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 5: I never set people up, but specifically I don't want 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 5: to deal with the fallout of it. We were pretty young, 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: so maybe they weren't understanding the full social ramifications of it. 92 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, I hate setting people up for that exact reason. 93 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Hate it. 94 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 4: Do it when it's when people are like, oh a 95 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: little bit. It's like, sure, well you're nice and you're nice, 96 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: you'll have a good time. But it's like, oh, it's 97 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: so much pressure. 98 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever tried to tell you the truth. 99 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: I can't think of a single time when I've ever 100 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: really tried to set set somebody up, But I wouldn't 101 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: be terrified. I fit. 102 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: I don't either. 103 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 5: And at this point, if I know you and your 104 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 5: single like, I will never set you up with someone like. 105 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: If you if you've. 106 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: Made it this long, then I would never throw you 107 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 5: at the throw you into a relationship with someone I know. 108 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: Let me ask you something. We we we are both 109 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: you're both in the in the simpler in the same business, uh, directing, producing, acting, 110 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. How how often do you 111 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: discuss the day to day ups and downs and ins 112 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: and outs of career and and work and business. 113 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I would say all all the time. Yeah, 114 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: it's you know, it's it's a it's a balance. As 115 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 4: you know, obviously our careers have been different. But I 116 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: would say the fact that we both do the same 117 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: thing is something that is really beneficial to our relationship 118 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 4: because we both really have an understanding of of you know, 119 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 4: how it feels for it to go well and how 120 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 4: it feels for it to not go well, and you know, 121 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: and and and literally I mean as as writers, and 122 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 4: certainly this is a tricky line to walk and it 123 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: doesn't always go well. But like you know, we can 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: share what we're working on and give feedback and have 125 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: conversations and be supportive of it. Again, doesn't always go well, 126 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 4: but so I think it's for us, it's you know, 127 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: it's great that we have that in common. 128 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you put the word that you use 129 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: just now, which is something that I really always hold 130 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: on to, is an understanding of what it is. So 131 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, like if you go, if you have a 132 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: I mean, of course there's marriages where one person would 133 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: be you know, an actor or another would be a 134 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 1: you know, a dentist, and it could work out fine. 135 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: But but for people that are in the entertainment business, 136 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: the things that seem sometimes really kind of big and 137 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: hard seem kind of silly to the outside world. You know, 138 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: like if I'm giving an example, like if I if 139 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: I go, you know, hey, she's like, what what's wrong? Why? 140 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: You know what you seem like you're, well, you know, 141 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: I just read this review and you know this guy 142 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: my age, you know, just got you just got this 143 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: great review or just want to you know, an oscar 144 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. I mean, to the outside world, 145 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: people go that is just stupid. I mean, why would 146 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: you let that even affect your day? And it's the 147 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: slightest bit, but there is a kind of empathy and 148 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: kind of understanding about what it is that we do 149 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: for a living. Not to mention just a shorthand of 150 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, whatever terms you want to use, you know, 151 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: call times and back end things. 152 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 5: Like exactly we talked about our back end mostly I 153 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 5: talk I talk about her back We Uh, well, no, 154 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 5: you're right. I think that's something that we're both very 155 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: at peace with that it and in tune with is 156 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 5: is one another? 157 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 3: You know? Is that? Is that exactly what you're saying? 158 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: You get wrapped up. 159 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 5: You know, our emotional stakes are different in this job. 160 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: Some would say, you know, the things that we get 161 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: worked up about are are inconsequential to others, but to us, 162 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: they're very meaningful. When you pour yourself into your work 163 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 5: and when you identify through your work, and when you're 164 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 5: an artist and you want people to see you through 165 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 5: your work, and when it's not received how you want, like, yeah, 166 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: I think I could see how. 167 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: You know. We what's nice is we are both in 168 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: a position to. 169 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 5: Truly understand like how how how how painful that can be, 170 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 5: you know, and we don't kind of belittle that at all, 171 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 5: as as my other friends do. 172 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: To meet. 173 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: Well, I know I have friends that do the same thing. 174 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: For me, it is that just don't get it. And 175 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: men family members too that are kind of like, yeah, dude, 176 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: shut up. 177 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 5: I've been with the I've been with filmmakers as we've 178 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 5: been as we've been like releasing movies that are breaking 179 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: literal like box office records, and and the filmmaker is 180 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 5: still just focused on the fact that, like the tomato 181 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 5: score is not what and yeah, and and and I 182 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: get and whenever I'm like, I get it. 183 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: Like I see, I feel the pain and it's and 184 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: it does. Yeah, yeah, that's painful. 185 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Exactly. You used the word recently. I want to ask 186 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: you both about this that I have been uh I'm 187 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: coming to a new understanding of it. And the word 188 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: is artists. And I can tell you that when I 189 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: uh became an actor, I was super super focused on 190 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: just getting famous and getting wretch and getting girls. That 191 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: was one hundred had nothing to do. 192 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: And you crush that man, so exactly. 193 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: It was it had nothing to do with the with 194 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: the with art you know, it was like to me, 195 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: Bryan Brandt was an artist and what I was doing 196 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: was wearing makeup and you know, of saying somebody else's words. 197 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: But I think more recently I've started to think about 198 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: art and the impact that art can have on people, 199 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: uh individually, you know, in the ways that they feel 200 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: about life, and then and the ways that that that 201 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: culture responds to things and even uh you know, the 202 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: political change or awareness of of of issues or whatever. 203 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: And and I'm not just talking about making films or writing, directing, 204 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, acting in films that have some kind of great, 205 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: big social point of view. But I mean I'm about 206 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: making horror movies or comedies. You know, you can impact 207 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: people with these And I'm starting to feel like, well, 208 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: that's really what art is, that's what it has been. 209 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: And I just wondered if if you've ever had any 210 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: kind of resistance to that concept, and whether you have 211 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, a point of view about that. 212 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, well you went to art school or in so 213 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 5: I think you were conditioned from a very young age 214 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 5: to accept that, which is nice. 215 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I was going to say that. I think 216 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: like for me, I was I was an art kid 217 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 4: in that like from a young age, I was happiest 218 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: with crayons and paper and a journal that I could 219 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 4: write everything into. And so and I went then to 220 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: a middle school that was focused on the arts and 221 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: was in the visual arts program. And high school I 222 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 4: went to an arts high school and was in the 223 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 4: visual arts program. And so expressing the feelings that I 224 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: had into whatever art it was that I was making 225 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: in those programs I think was ingringed in me that 226 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 4: I didn't give it a second thought, and that was like, Oh, 227 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 4: that's what I do because that's how I feel, and 228 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: I've learning, I've learned the skills and how to express 229 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: that through writing, drawing, painting, sculpting, et cetera, et cetera. 230 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: And so for me, I think I honestly never really 231 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 4: thought about that it was anything other than that. I 232 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: don't think of it as in this like at this point, 233 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: I absolutely think that storytelling and what we do is art, 234 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 4: but I don't put a sort of pretentious spin on 235 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 4: it in any way other than I feel that so 236 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: much of what we do is about connection and understanding, 237 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 4: and I'm just expressing what I'm feeling or what I'm 238 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: thinking or what i'm creating, so that someone else can 239 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: be like, yeah, I feel that way too, or I 240 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 4: thought that was funny, or you know, or I just 241 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: I see myself in that, and so I think that 242 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: that is, you know, and that is generally really what 243 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 4: what art is. It's a representation of someone's interpretation of 244 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 4: a moment for the viewer or the audience to have 245 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: a relationship to it. And I think that's like, that's 246 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 4: what we're always doing, is people maybe pretensions, but. 247 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I just started to feel like how co 248 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 5: musicians get, like the worst musician gets to be called 249 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 5: an artist, Like it's true in a world where Kid 250 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 5: Rocks consider an artist, why can't I consider myself an artist? 251 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: No, they definitely grabbed it. They grabbed it, they took 252 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: it before we did, so unfair right about that? 253 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 5: I got Yeah, at what point, I was at the 254 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 5: Grabbys and just like, fuck it, I'm an artist too. 255 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: I got a fan out a little bit. I can't talk, 256 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: obviously for obvious reasons about things that are specific, but 257 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: I just want to say that I'm such a great 258 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: admirer of your really singular kind of career in the 259 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: way that you came to it. But also besides the fact, 260 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: there's two things that I think are really interesting. One is, 261 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties, they gave me a production deal 262 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: at a major studio and I had I lived in 263 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: New York, but I had an office on the lot, 264 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: and I had a development person and I had a 265 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: and I had a secretary. And we didn't do jack 266 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: shitt and I couldn't get I was like, this is cool, 267 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a producer. And nothing, nothing got done. 268 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: It was so difficult. And you have completely embraced and 269 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, just made this made this a part of 270 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: who you are is finding stuff for you to be, 271 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: in finding stuff for other people to be, in finding 272 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: things that you think have value. And I just I 273 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: really admire that because I think that so often as 274 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: artists take it, yes we are, we're just you know, 275 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: we don't get it well. Either we don't have the 276 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: skill to do that, or we don't get a chance 277 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: to do that. So I just want to say that 278 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: I admire that. 279 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah. 280 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: I mean I was lucky to be like brought up 281 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 5: also in like a very specific environment, like surrounded by 282 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 5: people who like we're very geared towards like producing, and 283 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 5: I was like showing how to produce, and I was shown, oh, 284 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: you can like nurture someone in their idea and you 285 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 5: could understand the logistics of how things get brought to 286 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 5: life from like a financial standpoint and navigating the studio. 287 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: And and if. 288 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 5: You're a writer too, then it puts you in like 289 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: a really special position and the idea of being like 290 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 5: a writing producer, a producer who can actually fix the 291 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 5: problems in the material and help fix the problems and 292 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 5: enable people to fix the problems. You know, that I 293 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 5: get like I was brought up around people who did that, 294 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 5: and I saw, oh, like if that, if that's a 295 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 5: thing we can do, then there's not a lot of 296 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 5: people who are both you know, able to go into 297 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 5: a studio and you know, negotiate budgets and deals and 298 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 5: all that stuff, and if there's a writing issue, they 299 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 5: could actually sit down and help fix the problem, you know. 300 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 5: And and so it was yeah, I mean, but I 301 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 5: got I got real lucky in that I was kind 302 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 5: of like shown how to do that. 303 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: You know, who were those people that you say brought 304 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: you up in that way. 305 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 5: I mean it was Judd Apatow for sure. It was 306 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 5: one of those people. And he was brought up by 307 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 5: Gary Shandling. 308 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: A lot of the the in a lot of ways. 309 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 5: And Gary was around me when I was younger, and 310 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 5: he really like had that it was almost like a. 311 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: Rick rubinesque like comedic figure. 312 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 4: You know. 313 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: It was someone who was like. 314 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 5: Really was trying to inspire others to like create their 315 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 5: best work and and and spoke to them about how 316 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 5: to create their best work and and and physically could 317 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 5: could do it as well. 318 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: You know, and and and. 319 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 5: Also like would like have their own shows and their 320 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 5: own companies and and would enable other people. And Jim 321 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 5: Brooks was someone that was for sure, you know, judge 322 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 5: him up under him and he's so when I got 323 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 5: to be around when I was younger, and. 324 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: He was almost was very he's very degenerous in that. 325 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's great, and he's kind of in a lot 326 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 5: of ways, Yeah, like one of the architects of really 327 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 5: being like a prolific writer, director, producer of of of 328 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 5: people's work in that way, you know, and and like 329 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 5: a writing producer in and of himself. So yeah, it 330 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 5: was I was very fortunate to kind of get to 331 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 5: be around these people at a young age and kind 332 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 5: of absorb. 333 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: Or did you have that kind of mentorship, Yeah, a bit. 334 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: I mean I went to film school and so you 335 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 4: know it was very intentional to you know, work, you know, 336 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 4: as a writer and producer. I came out of school 337 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: actually really being interested in producing, and I worked for 338 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: this producer named Steve Starkey who was Robertson Echisil's producer 339 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 4: in the sort of Polar Express and Beowulf Monster House 340 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 4: years and you know, learned an incredible amount working at 341 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 4: this company that was making big movies while simultaneously, Seth 342 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: and I had started dating at the time, so I 343 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: would I would leave work and then go to set 344 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 4: and sit on set and also get to observe jud 345 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 4: and SHAWNA. Robertson who was producing those movies at the time, 346 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: and so very much. Yeah, had amazing examples of people 347 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: who could juggle you know, the sort of creative side 348 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: of putting funny stories together, but also you know, shepherding 349 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 4: other people and being supportive of you know, people coming 350 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 4: up and being generous and teaching and listening and offering guidance. 351 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: And Yeah, it's incredible to be able to have that 352 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: and to be around people like that. Yeah, I was 353 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: very lucky and fun time for sure. 354 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: I want to say to the people that are listening 355 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: to this podcast. I probably mentioned this before, but I 356 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: have zero regrets about my career and my I'm just 357 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: not somebody that looks back and goes, oh shit, I 358 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: wish I would have done this and done except for 359 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: the fact that I never got the concept of mentorship 360 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: because I was such a cocky little shit. I thought 361 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: there was nothing that anybody could teach me. Teachers. I 362 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: couldn't stand being in class because I was like, I 363 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: don't I got this. I got this even you know, 364 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: from my parents' older actors that I would meet now 365 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: probably just I'm sure I was absorbing things without but 366 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: I never really put myself in the situation of going 367 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: to somebody and saying, you know, can I ask your 368 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: advice on something? And I think that's I think that's 369 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: a really important thing for people to do, as as 370 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: young people er. 371 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I think having a balance though. I think 372 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: that like confidence though, is key, and knowing where you're 373 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 4: going is key, and so the fact that you had 374 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: the confidence to, you know, be like, I deserve to 375 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 4: be here, I know what I'm doing. I don't don't 376 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: I don't need to listen to you helped drive you 377 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 4: to where you where you were and are you know 378 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 4: I would say that my confidence, I didn't have that confidence. 379 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 4: I literally was like I need to learn because I 380 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: am not ready until I was ready. And so I 381 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: think that, you know, it's important to know I should 382 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 4: in some situations shut up and listen and in some 383 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: situations to say like I've experienced and I've learned and 384 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 4: I'm ready to go. 385 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's true. 386 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 5: That's what's hard about movies especially, is like no one's right. 387 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 5: It's all just like who likes what more? And like 388 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 5: who who feels it speaks to their tastes more and 389 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 5: and and it is hard at times to yeah, navigate 390 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 5: what advice you should take and what what advice is 391 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 5: just kind. 392 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: Of I'm trying to be better like at this age, 393 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: at this late age, I'm actually trying to you know, especially, 394 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: I think part of it is my is my wife's influence, 395 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: because I mean really down to like even directors, do 396 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: I really want direction? Not really? 397 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: No one getting direction? 398 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: When I was at. 399 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm happy not to are you are you really? 400 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 401 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 5: I've been on movies wherely like I real I'll be 402 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 5: like so I'd be like, it's been days since I've 403 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 5: even spoken to the director, and that is like. 404 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: You're good with that? Yes, okay, I'm glad because I 405 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: don't know that I don't know that. I don't know 406 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: that I've I've really uh talked to other actors that 407 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: feel that way. So I'm glad that somebody else feeling glad. 408 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: I can. Yeah, he doesn't like being directed either, just 409 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: so you know. 410 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: And I don't like directing the actors. I don't like 411 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: talking about it. 412 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 5: I'm in general like time, I'd be like, if I 413 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 5: can avoid talking to them, I will just let them 414 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 5: do their thing, you know. 415 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: And I love it, like I want to get in 416 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: there and be like, how you know, let's talk about 417 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 4: how we're going to do this, like like that's I think, 418 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 4: you know, one of the most fun parts of it. 419 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 4: And and honestly like if you take like of course, 420 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: like a technical directing class like in a school, like 421 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 4: so much of it is how do you communicate with 422 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 4: the actors? So like to be on set either as 423 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: an actor and the director doesn't talk to you, I'm like, 424 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 4: where's the director, but then also be the director and 425 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: like to get the sense that the actors like, I 426 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 4: got this. You're like, okay, I can take that, and 427 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 4: I'm not going to say anything, and I'm going to 428 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: let them go because I know they know what they're doing, 429 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 4: you know. 430 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 5: The fatal man Stevens Fieldberg was like, I don't want 431 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 5: to talk to the actress ever about the scene ever. 432 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: Basically the greatest. 433 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 434 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 5: And then but then when he did give you direction, 435 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 5: it was terrified because you're like, oh, no. 436 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: That's the greatest, that's the greatest. Well here, yeah, it's 437 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: that thing between you Take one and take two. You 438 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: see him get out of the chair and start to 439 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: stroll over towards a second You're like, oh no, oh no, no, 440 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: can we just go again? We just go again. I 441 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: can sense what you want. Uh. The that's an interesting 442 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: you mentioned that moved. It's an interesting segment to my 443 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: other thing that I think is so fascinating. I've often 444 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: said that I would I would, Uh, I would love 445 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: to do more comedy, but I would I would much 446 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: rather have been a serious actor who then gets a 447 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: chance to do some comedy that have been well known 448 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: for being a comedy the actor, because I think that 449 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: the transition, I don't know how you feel about this 450 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: in the other direction is uh, is is tough. I 451 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: think that there's a there's something tied up with audiences 452 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: and what they want to feel from from you in 453 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: that moment, you know, as the truck backs up. I uh, 454 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: and you've been able to do that to uh, to 455 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: to kind of push past that seth in in such 456 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: a such a great way with with you know, really 457 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: truly amazing dramatic performances and all kinds of stretches, you know, 458 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: and uh into different you know, walking in different people's shoes. 459 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: And I wondered if that was a had a fight, 460 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: if there was a fight to do that, or if 461 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: it just kind of happened naturally. 462 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: Uh No, there really wasn't. I like it. It wasn't 463 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: something that I I. 464 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 5: Always like love comedy and and and I was never 465 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 5: like someone who, like, uh, I thought comedy was really 466 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 5: always harder, you know, and I would look at you know, 467 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: I would do dramatic scenes. 468 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: In comedies and they were always so much easier. 469 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 5: Than the comedic scenes in the comedies, you know, And 470 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 5: so it wasn't I was always like relieved, though I 471 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 5: remember being like, oh, it's like it's like the scene 472 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 5: where like we break up, and even that was hard 473 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 5: because we would still trying to make it funny. But 474 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 5: like it, it to me was not something I ever 475 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 5: honestly cared that much about. And some of my good 476 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 5: friends were getting cast in dramatic films again, nominated for 477 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 5: Academy Awards, and I was very thrilled for them, and 478 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 5: I would look at them and do you like that 479 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 5: just isn't something I like need necessarily like it. But 480 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 5: there are filmmakers that I love working with, and I 481 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 5: like dramatic film, but I'm more I think Sarah Pauley 482 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 5: was the first one really who put me in like 483 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 5: a dramatic movie, in like a big role in take 484 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 5: This Waltz, and it was like it was interesting, Like 485 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 5: I remember thinking it was very weird that she wanted 486 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 5: me to do it and that she could have her 487 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: pick of so many more dramatic actors, but she, like 488 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 5: I thought that I would work in a specific way. 489 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: And so. 490 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't like, Yeah, it's not something I 491 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: like long for. You know, if I was only making 492 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 5: comedies forever, i'd be happy. 493 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 3: It's just it's hard, you know, you know, that's. 494 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: So fascinating I'm really that's very very interesting. Yeah, Lauren, 495 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: can you tell us about Hilarity for charity and and 496 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: and what your own personal connection to this is. I want, 497 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: I want to this is this is why you guys 498 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: are here today, and I want to segue into that. 499 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, So, unfortunately, Alzheimer's was kind of a part of 500 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: my life always my on my mom's side, my grandfather, 501 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 4: her dad was diagnosed when I was very young, before 502 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 4: I was born, and then after him, my grandmother, my 503 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: mom's mom, was diagnosed with Alzheimer's also, and then at 504 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 4: my college graduation, when I was twenty two and my 505 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 4: mom was fifty two, she started repeating herself and you know, 506 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 4: and it was one of those things that I just knew. 507 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 4: And by the time, just before her fifty fifth birthday, 508 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 4: she was diagnosed with I guess like an earlier on 509 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 4: set Alzheimer's, which you know, coincided with when Seth and 510 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 4: I started dating. We you know, met when we were 511 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 4: twenty three, and so this really obviously hugely colored a 512 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 4: huge part of my life during that time. And you know, 513 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 4: here I was across the country from my parents. They 514 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 4: were in Florida at the time, and you know, I 515 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 4: was trying to build my career and in this relationship 516 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 4: that was growing and sort of get my feet on 517 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 4: the ground here while this was happening back home, and 518 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: just as many people do who face a diagnosis of dementia, 519 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: we were really scared and didn't know where to turn. 520 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 4: And my mom really didn't want us to talk about 521 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 4: it for the first couple of years because she felt 522 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: a lot of stigma that stems from having dementia and 523 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: and I'm sure a lot of fear herself having seen 524 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 4: her parents go through it. But eventually her disease progressed 525 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 4: and Steth and I started talking about it and sharing 526 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 4: what I was going through and what my family was 527 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: going through. And eventually a friend was like, hey, let's 528 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 4: throw up a variety show since you know, we were 529 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 4: in the comedy area, and let's raise some money for 530 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: Alzheimer's research. And I was like, whoa, no, But then 531 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 4: he persisted and I said okay, and we did it. 532 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: And that was in twenty twelve, and through that really 533 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: realized that there weren't a lot of young people talking 534 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: about Alzheimer's at that point. There a lot of people 535 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: talking about it in general, really and other young people 536 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 4: were like, oh, hey, I'm also in my tw with 537 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 4: a parent with it or sometimes unfortunately younger than that, 538 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 4: And I was far from being alone and being young 539 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 4: and having a parent dealing with it, and that we 540 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: had this voice that we could use to give other 541 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 4: people a voice and show them how to use their 542 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: stories to create advocacy that was needed to explain this 543 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 4: disease and what it is like to be a caregiver 544 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 4: for this disease, but also to teach people how to 545 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 4: take care of their brains and how to stay healthy, 546 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: and also help caregivers who are going through it right 547 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: now and really make sure that they are getting the 548 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 4: support that they need to navigate the very difficult journey 549 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: that most people who are cared for someone Golzheimer's are 550 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 4: going through. 551 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: Did you ever get a chance to talk to your 552 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: mother about it? Did she ever open up about it? Yeah? 553 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 4: You know, we had conversations early on. There was one 554 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: sort of pivotal conversation early on. This is so funny 555 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: how I get to it. But I had read early 556 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 4: on in like a teen magazine that the best place 557 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: to have a comfortable conversations with your parents is in 558 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: the car because ultimately you'll always have to get out 559 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: of the car, so the conversation come to a natural end. 560 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 4: So remember one time I was home visiting and she 561 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: and I went to Target, and for whatever reason, I 562 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 4: brought it up on the way to Target. So in 563 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: the Target parking lot, we had this very specific conversation 564 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: that I'll always remember, which was when I asked her 565 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 4: if she was scared, in which she told me she 566 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: wasn't scared for herself, but she was scared for us 567 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: because she knew what we were going to go through 568 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 4: and that I was absolutely not to move home to 569 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 4: Florida to be with her, and I was not to 570 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: make my life that I had been, you know, building 571 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 4: towards take a left turn and stop what I was 572 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: doing to take care of her the class she wanted. Wow, 573 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: that's what she was was really selfless. She was giving 574 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 4: and caring and so you know, and I was lucky 575 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 4: to have Step there to support me. And you know, 576 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 4: like I always said, like I was a caregiver for 577 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 4: a caregiver because my dad was my mom's primary caregiver. 578 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 4: But you know, at a lot of ways, Step was 579 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 4: my caregiver. And I was extremely lucky to have him there. 580 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 6: If you are inspired by today's episode, please join us 581 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 6: in supporting six degrees dot org by texting the word 582 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 6: Bacon to seven zero seven zero seven zero. 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You know, there's 593 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: something that Lauren mentioned that I that I found really 594 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: interesting when I was reading about the Alzheimer's and some 595 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: of the research and some of the focus that you 596 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: guys are making, and that is in this idea of 597 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: a preventative lifestyle. This is something that I'd never really 598 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: even thought about brain health. I mean, can you dig 599 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: into that a little bit more for people? 600 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely one of our main pillars I think 601 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: what separates us from a lot of other organizations in 602 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: the Alzheimer's space is some of the programs that we 603 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: offer and kind of the pillars that we're built on. 604 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: So the first obviously to care for families and caregivers 605 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: impacted by it, as Len mentioned, the second is to 606 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: activate the generation of Alzheimer's advocates, and then that third 607 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: pillar is to be a leader in the brain health space, 608 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: particularly brain health education. And I think something that people 609 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: would be surprised to learn is that research suggests that 610 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: four and ten cases of dementia may be preventable through 611 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: lifestyle changes. And part of this research is that twenty 612 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: to thirty years before the onset of symptoms of Alzheimer's 613 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: and dementia is when the disease actually starts and it 614 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: starts to build. So by the time you get a diagnosis, 615 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: you've been living with the disease for decades. And knowing 616 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: that information, we really strive to get education to younger 617 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: folks and to get young people caring about brain health 618 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: education so that when they are in their twenties and thirties, 619 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: they can be proactive and doing things that support that. Lauren, 620 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: and you might have to help me. We have our 621 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: five brain health habits that kind of drive all of 622 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: our brain health education. So physical exercise we write then, Yeah, 623 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: physical exercise is one of them. Emotional will be is another. Nutrition. 624 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: What you eat in put in your body very important. 625 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: The biggest one that Lauren talks lots about is sleep. 626 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: And then what is the fifth one that I'm missing? 627 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 4: Learn mental fitness, mental things. 628 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: Yes, keeping your brain engaged. So an example of that 629 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: that we like to share is learning a new language, 630 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: like learning a new line, your brain learning. Yeah. The 631 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 2: more that you can learn new things and activate your 632 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: brain in that way, the stronger connections you can make. Yeah, 633 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: we're very big on brain health, and there is a 634 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: lot that people can do that they don't even realize 635 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: in their day to day that can help that effort. 636 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: Seth, tell me a little bit about the hilarity side 637 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, I'm curious about the idea of taking 638 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: something that is obviously you know, deep and painful and 639 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: as hard as as Alzheimer's and you know, at least 640 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: finding a way in through humor. 641 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 642 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean. 643 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 3: A lot of it is because it's just what we do, 644 00:34:59,480 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: you know. 645 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 5: And as we were putting together the show for the 646 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 5: first time, we are comedians. All of our friends are comedians, 647 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 5: you know. Will actually the guy who introduced us, would 648 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 5: put on comedy variety shows. 649 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 3: It was kind of like an. 650 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 5: Environment we came up with, was was we would always 651 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 5: be going to these kind of comedy variety shows all 652 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 5: the time. 653 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 3: And so it at first was kind of just organically 654 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: all we had to offer. 655 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 5: But over the years it has become a much more 656 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 5: kind of resonant, like beautiful, uh like approach to it. 657 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 5: That that that again, like looking back, is is lovely 658 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 5: and and the fact that we were able to infuse 659 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 5: such a sad thing with humor, and that we're able 660 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 5: to able to bring whiteness to such a dark subject 661 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 5: and able to you kind of you know, take people's 662 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 5: minds off things and with a spoonful of sugar, you know, 663 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 5: like kind of feed them information and tips and lifestyle 664 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 5: you know, habit suggestions that in a way that is 665 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 5: entertaining and maybe a little more lighthearted than this information 666 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 5: is generally conveyed with. Uh that that yeah, that was 667 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 5: never part of like the grand plan. It's kind of 668 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 5: just who we are and what we had to offer 669 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 5: and and and it all came together in that way. 670 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 5: But if anything. Yeah, Like, I think we've all been 671 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 5: amazed at how organically it does go together, and how 672 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 5: comedians especially are very charitable with their time and are 673 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 5: undaunted by speaking about or around incredibly unhappy, traumatic things. 674 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 5: That's what comedy is, right, And I remember, yeah, honestly, 675 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 5: I remember putting together one of the shows and texting 676 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 5: I think was John Mulaney being like, you're coming on 677 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 5: after something that's like brutal, and he was like, it's fine, 678 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 5: Like he's like people, He's like, people shift gears real fast. 679 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 5: It's totally not a problem, you know. And so yeah, 680 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 5: if anything, it kind of has it seems nice in 681 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 5: retrospect and like we have this grand plan to kind 682 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 5: of change the tone surrounding something so sad. But no, 683 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 5: it was just kind of who we were, and we 684 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 5: always we joke like if we were chefs, would be 685 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 5: called baking for charity, you know, but unfortunately we're not. 686 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: Amanda, tell me about the other two pillars. 687 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the first, which is kind of the heart 688 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 2: and soul of our organization, is to care for families 689 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 2: impacted by Alzheimer's. By twenty fifty, it's estimated that thirteen 690 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: million Americans over the age of sixty five will have 691 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 2: the disease, and that is tripling the current amount of 692 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 2: cases that we have today. And I think another big 693 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: part of that is that with an increase in people 694 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 2: living with the disease, is the increase of people caring 695 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: for people living with the disease. And right now there's 696 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 2: already eleven million Americans who provide on paid care. So 697 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: what we do at HFC is try to be a 698 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: resource hub for folks wherever they are in the journey. 699 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 2: So whether you yourself have been newly diagnosed or you're 700 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: a caregiver who's been caring for someone for years with 701 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: the disease, we try to meet people where they are 702 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: through a variety of services. Probably the biggest and kind 703 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 2: of the core of our work is our respite grants, 704 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 2: and what those are is folks can apply and what 705 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 2: it is is it's either a short term grant where 706 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 2: we collaborate with a professional care organization and if you 707 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: are awarded the grant, then someone would come to your home, 708 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 2: a professional caregiver to help relieve you. So it's meant 709 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 2: to take the burden of caregiving off the caregiver just 710 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 2: for a little We also have extended grants, so that's 711 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 2: like more long term assistance that you'd have, but we 712 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 2: found that it's just much needed respite. Like caregivers are 713 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 2: very burnt out and it is such a taxing job 714 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: and responsibility, and to even have the time to go 715 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 2: to the grocery store or to have a night out 716 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 2: with friends can be monumental in giving them a little 717 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 2: bit more fuel so that they can continue caring for 718 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 2: the person that they love. Which in addition to the 719 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 2: care grants, we also have a lot of online opportunities. 720 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: Since caregivers are everywhere and very busy and we're a 721 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,959 Speaker 2: national organization, we have workshops, We have our main event 722 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: every year, which is care Con, which is coming up 723 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: this February, actually on Valentine's Day this year, So shout 724 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: out to all the caregivers and those are all meant 725 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: to kind of speaking to what Seth said, one educate them, 726 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: so give them resources and maybe tips and chicks that 727 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: they might not have known about in caregiving, and to 728 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: give them a space to just be entertained and to 729 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 2: laugh and to find community with people who get it, 730 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: because it's a really isolating experience and not everyone understands 731 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 2: what it looks like to care for someone and when 732 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 2: you meet someone who does, it's a really special thing. 733 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 2: So that's one of them, caring for caregivers, and then 734 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: the other one that's pretty exciting, and I think we're 735 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 2: one of a few organizations doing it is activating the 736 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: next generation of Alzheimer's advocates. So we have a program 737 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: right now called the Youth Movement Against Alzheimer's and we 738 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: have high school and college chapters all across the country 739 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 2: of kids who, either through personal connection or maybe careers 740 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 2: that they want to get into, they have a passion 741 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 2: for Alzheimer's and dementia and they want to advocate on 742 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: behalf of the disease and people living with the disease. 743 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 2: And it's a big part of what we do is 744 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: making sure that those young people are equipped to put 745 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 2: that message out into the world to help educate their 746 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: peers on what they can do around brain health. It 747 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 2: kind of all funnels back into that idea of prevention 748 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: that if we can get people educated and inspired earlier, 749 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 2: we'll all be better off in the long run. 750 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: AMaGA, let me ask you a question. Obviously you're very 751 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: committed to this, do you think it was in your 752 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: life personally that made you want to, you know, be 753 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: in this line of work. Yeah, I mean, you know, 754 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: be work in the in the cause based space. I'm 755 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: always fascinated when you know, being someone who that was 756 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: never an option that I considered as a young man. 757 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated with with people that really have have 758 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: chosen to to to make this their their work. 759 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was modeled for me by my 760 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: parents just in our lifestyle. They were really big on 761 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 2: helping others, So we've had countless friends and families stay 762 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: at our home throughout the years. And I think for 763 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 2: my sister and I, she's in the medical field, so 764 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 2: she does servanthood in her own way. We just thought 765 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 2: modeled for us. My mom especially was really big on 766 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: teaching us that if you have the means and the 767 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: ability you help others, that's what you do. And I 768 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 2: think I learned early on the gratification that you feel 769 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 2: and that you get from helping other people. And I 770 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 2: felt pretty convinced, I mean out of call it is 771 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: that if I didn't do work that was tied to 772 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 2: a purposeful mission, I wouldn't be fulfilled. And I wouldn't 773 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 2: be able to show up and really love what I do. 774 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: Hilarity for charity is the sweet spot of all the 775 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 2: things that I love. I get to be very creative here. 776 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 2: I get to help others, and it's a cause that 777 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 2: I have personal experience with, and I get to, you know, 778 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 2: help people who are in the same position as myself 779 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 2: and my family. 780 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: M hm, that's that's that's great. I also have to 781 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: say that I'm so touched with the notion of Seth 782 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: becoming the caregiver for the caregiver you mentioned that, Lord, 783 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 1: and I just want to circle back to that because 784 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: I I, I mean, obviously there is a I'm gonna 785 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: call it trickle down, but there's a there's a there's 786 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: a ripple effect when somebody in somebody. 787 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 5: I'd call it a black hole, right the exactly. 788 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is, you know, that's that's that's part 789 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: of what marriages, that's part of what family is, you know. 790 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 5: And yeah, it was really yeah, it was. It was 791 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 5: one of those things though, like it was so sad, and. 792 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 3: You know, I remember suggesting Laura go to therapy. 793 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 5: That was a big that was a defining moment, I 794 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 5: would say, and you know, uh forward, because I was 795 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 5: just literally unequipped to deal with how sad the situation was. 796 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 5: Like it wasn't like normal like hard day at work sad, 797 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 5: like my boss is an asshole sad. It was like 798 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 5: outside the scope of what I was equipped to understand 799 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 5: how to deal with effectively, you know. And and then 800 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 5: also it was one of those things where like money 801 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 5: just helped, and that's why we made these grants, where 802 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 5: like Lauren's father was just like getting worked to death, 803 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 5: and then we hired these people, and all of a sudden, 804 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 5: like everyone's lives was much better in like a tangible way. 805 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 3: And so. 806 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, like this idea that you know, just there's a 807 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 5: very like immediate way to relieve the pressure of these 808 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 5: caregivers because also like caregiving is also you know, like 809 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 5: the caregiver dies before the person they are caring for, 810 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 5: often because of the toll it takes. And and and 811 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 5: that really seemed to be you know, what would was 812 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 5: what could have happened to Lauren's father and so and 813 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 5: and and then yeah, and then like the emotional effect 814 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 5: it had on Lauren obviously because both of her parents 815 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 5: were going through this terrible thing. So yeah, it does 816 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 5: create this kind of like black hole that you really 817 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 5: have to fight against the gravitational pull of you know. 818 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to give you an opportunity, both 819 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: Lauren and Amanda to you know, say how people listening 820 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: to this can get involved, can help. This is our 821 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: call to action to you know, just see how what 822 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: people can do. 823 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 2: Do you want to kiss? Sure? 824 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 4: I mean, look, the first thing that can help is 825 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 4: by donating money. You know, we are able to fund 826 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 4: I think it's twenty seven percent or something of our 827 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 4: applications that we received for our restpen programs. I would 828 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 4: love to be able to fund more. However, it's not 829 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 4: only money where we need the help. The simplest thing 830 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 4: someone can do is share a story. If you're a caregiver, 831 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 4: telling your friends, telling your family, sharing your story on 832 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 4: social media. Making the reality of caring for someone with 833 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 4: dementia part of the conversation so that people understand what 834 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 4: it actually means to care for someone with dementia is 835 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 4: huge to push the conversation forward because part of the 836 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 4: reason that dementia Alzheimer's research was underfunded for so long 837 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 4: by the government was because no one talked about it. 838 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 4: In the last ten years, that's changed the reality of 839 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 4: the situation has forced the government to step up with 840 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 4: more funding in the areas of scientific research. So caregiving 841 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 4: is still unfortunately behind, and so sharing our stories about 842 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 4: the need for the support we need for caregivers, hopefully 843 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 4: we'll shift the conversation to give caregivers the support they need. 844 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 4: So I would say it's donations, it's advocacy, it's sharing 845 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 4: our information on social media with a friend who you 846 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 4: know needs it. It's sharing the fact that you know 847 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 4: we have a support group. We have support groups for 848 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 4: so many different types of people, and so so yeah, donating, sharing, Amanda, 849 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 4: what else. 850 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously donating and sharing. I think another big thing 851 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 2: is learn how to care for your brain. I mean, 852 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 2: the crisis of care is going to impact everyone on 853 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 2: a big scale, the economy. We're not ready for the 854 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 2: amount of care that's going to need to be provided 855 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 2: in the coming years. And we can tackle that by 856 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 2: selling those lifestyle habits that can help towards preventions. So 857 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 2: check out we are HFC dot org. We've got lots 858 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 2: of resources about all the brain health habits that you 859 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 2: can do. We even have a lovely recording of seth 860 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 2: if you want to soothe yourself to sleep with the 861 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 2: voices that brogan you can. 862 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 3: Definite Yeah. 863 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 2: I would encourage everyone check out our website, find out 864 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 2: the simple things that you can start changing to help 865 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 2: improve your brain health with those habits, and then if 866 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: there's any caregivers listening out here, know that we're here 867 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 2: to support you wherever you are on your journey. Please 868 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: connect with us either through the website or on social media. 869 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 2: We are at we are HFC across all social platforms, 870 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 2: and we also have our major event, our virtual event 871 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 2: care Con, coming up this February on Valentine's Day, so 872 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 2: please join us even if you're not a caregiver. I 873 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 2: think another aspect of this issue was that caregivers feel 874 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 2: isolated because people don't know how to support someone who's 875 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 2: caring for someone with all sign and we've got a 876 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 2: lot of tools to even help the non trigivers know 877 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 2: how to better love and support the people in their 878 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 2: lives who are doing the caregiving. 879 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I want to thank you guys so much, Seth, Lauren, Amanda, 880 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much foranking here today. Thanks for having us. 881 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: It's really fun to to chat with you guys, and 882 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: I love the sport that you're doing and and you know, 883 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,760 Speaker 1: keep up the good work. It's it's just fantastic stuff. 884 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: So thank you, thank. 885 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 2: You, thank you, thank you so much. 886 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, thanks for listening to another episode of Six 887 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: Degrees with Kevin Bacon. To learn more about Hilarity for Charity. 888 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: I love that name and all the great works Seth, 889 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: Lauren and their team are up to head to their website. 890 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: We are h FC dot org. That's we are h 891 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: FC dot org. You can find all the links in 892 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 1: our show notes and hey, if you like what you need, 893 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: make sure that you subscribe to the show and tune 894 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 1: in to the rest of our episodes. You can find 895 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: six Degrees with Kevin Bacon on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or 896 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. I see you next time.