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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arms Strong

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Speaker 1: and Gatty and he Armstrong and Yedetti.

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Speaker 2: The LATINX stuff that, by the way, not one person

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Speaker 2: ever in my office has ever used the word LATINX.

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Speaker 1: So can we finally put that to bed? Yeah? But

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Speaker 1: where did that even know? More LATINX? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Well, I just didn't even know where it came from,

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Speaker 2: And like, what are people talking about? I hope we

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Speaker 2: can really paint a picture in terms of our consciousness

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Speaker 2: of how impactful this has been on the LATINX community.

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Speaker 2: About three quarters of renters in the state that have

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Speaker 2: fallen behind and rent represented the Latino and African American community.

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Speaker 1: The LATINX and Black communities.

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Speaker 2: You've got politicians that are banning not assault rifles, but

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Speaker 2: the word LATINX.

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Speaker 1: They're not even serious.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's even further So that's Gavin Newsom doing his

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Speaker 3: bro podcasts that he's doing all across the country now

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Speaker 3: as he tries to be like just a regular guy

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Speaker 3: running for president, and he's doing a pretty good job

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Speaker 3: of it might work for him, but claiming that LATINX.

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Speaker 3: Whoever even heard of that before? What does that even mean?

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Speaker 3: And then a little montage of him using the term

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Speaker 3: in recent years, including one and where he's fighting against

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Speaker 3: trying to take away the word LATINX, blasting anybody who would.

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Speaker 1: Dare disparage it. Oh boy, but oh but it works.

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Speaker 3: People don't hear the you know, like in newspapers or books,

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Speaker 3: there's the big headline and then there's a little sentence underneath.

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Speaker 3: People don't hear the sentence underneath. Ninety percent of people.

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Speaker 3: They just get the big headline of everything, of every story.

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Speaker 1: And that's funny. Though. He's got to run away from

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Speaker 1: so much of that stuff because it's so freaking crazy.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean yeah. The least is long of

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Speaker 4: policies that are abhorrent to most Americans or excuse me,

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Speaker 4: I should have taken my coughs are present and or

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Speaker 4: results that are abhorrent to Americans. For instance, as we

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Speaker 4: outlined last hour, cal Unicorney has lost one hundred and

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Speaker 4: a half hundred thousand private sector jobs and added three

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Speaker 4: hundred and sixty one thousand government jobs since twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: It's just astonishing.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's be happy about this stuff though, people, Rather

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Speaker 3: than condemning the hypocrisy, we should be happy he understands

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Speaker 3: that he needs to run away from the nonsense like

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Speaker 3: trans boys in girls sports or the term LATINX, which

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Speaker 3: is one of the dumbest things that's ever happened in

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Speaker 3: my lifetime. He has to run away from it if

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Speaker 3: he wants to be president. He is determined, and he's right,

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Speaker 3: and that's good.

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Speaker 4: News, right it is, Although don't let down your guard

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Speaker 4: because we've received I don't know half a dozen emails

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Speaker 4: just in the last forty eight hours from folks that

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Speaker 4: are getting ready to get back in the classroom as

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Speaker 4: teachers in California and are going through their state mandated

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Speaker 4: DEI white supremacist woke doctrine right now. They're getting educated

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Speaker 4: in that quote unquote educated. So getting back to Gavy,

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Speaker 4: and we talked about this fairly recently. If you're just

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Speaker 4: tuning in, but the whole bed bath and beyond thing,

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Speaker 4: the head of bed bath and beyond. Do you have

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Speaker 4: that statement or I mean for people who are not familiar,

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Speaker 4: just real.

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Speaker 1: Quickly, yes, I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, this is I got the other screen up

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Speaker 3: about shreking a dating trend in which people are dating

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Speaker 3: unattractive people on purpose. That story we got to get

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Speaker 3: to later this hour. Yes, yes, yes, and different species

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Speaker 3: of giraffes. Yes, I already did the giraffes shreking. We

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Speaker 3: will do this hour though. It's an actual thing and

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Speaker 3: it's really quite entertaining.

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Speaker 1: Point.

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Speaker 3: So the CEO of Bed, Bath and Beyond puts out

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Speaker 3: a statement yesterday, we will not operate or open retail

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Speaker 3: stores in California. This decision isn't about politics, It's about reality.

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Speaker 3: California has created one of the most regulated, expensive and

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Speaker 3: risky environments for business in America. It's a system that

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Speaker 3: makes it harder to employ people, harder to keep doors open,

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Speaker 3: and harder to deliver value to customers. The result higher taxes,

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Speaker 3: hire fees, higher wages that many businesses simply cannot sustain.

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Speaker 4: And then Gavin Newsom, in a snarky social media post yesterday, replied.

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Speaker 1: The company that already went bankrupt and closed every store

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Speaker 1: across the country two years ago.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I will be responding to that in a moment.

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Speaker 4: After a word from Kevin McCarthy, former Speaker of the House,

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Speaker 4: multi generation cal Unicornean thirty three, Michael.

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Speaker 5: There's another example of a failed California under Gavin. Instead

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Speaker 5: of a governor going out trying to create businesses, he

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Speaker 5: continues to push them away. We saw not just businesses

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Speaker 5: go away, but we're losing population because of the problem

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Speaker 5: of how they're governing California.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Kevin. Good to hear your voice.

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Speaker 1: What's the beyond? I get bedd and back, but what's

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Speaker 1: the beyond?

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Speaker 4: Hallways, kitchens, multiple rooms and door corridors can be furnished.

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Speaker 4: All right, So, Gavin, here is my response to your

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Speaker 4: sarcasm anti rooms. Oh yeah, Foyers, window, don't get me started.

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Speaker 3: Window treatment, that's all absolutely yes, although you do have

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Speaker 3: windows in beds and baths.

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Speaker 1: Michael. So is it a good point? Yeah, okay, where

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Speaker 1: were we? I'm sure there was a thread?

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, So Gavin's snark about a CEO saying your

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Speaker 4: state is so hostile to business and so difficult to

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Speaker 4: operate in, We're not even gonna try. And instead of

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Speaker 4: addressing policy, he says, oh, yeah, the same company that

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Speaker 4: went bankrupt and closed all their stores two years ago.

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Speaker 4: Let me explain something to you, Gavin, Because you were

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Speaker 4: born with a silver spoon in your mouth. You've been

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Speaker 4: successful in business because you've been bankrolled up to your

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Speaker 4: ears by all of your rich relatives.

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Speaker 1: But here's the way it works.

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Speaker 4: Big companies sometimes failed to adjust with the times. Something

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Speaker 4: you know changes whatever. They're unsuccessful, they declare bankruptcy and

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Speaker 4: they reorganize. Bed Bath and Beyond has a lot of fans.

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Speaker 4: It's a cool store. I'm a fan, Judy and I

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Speaker 4: shop there for a lot of stuff for years and years,

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Speaker 4: and we're super bummed to hear it was closing. Well,

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Speaker 4: now they're reopening with a little different concept that's going

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Speaker 4: to be better for consumers and more likely to be

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Speaker 4: a successful business. It's the very thing we treasure in America.

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Speaker 4: Gavin innovation, adaptation, creativity and sticking to it. And these

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Speaker 4: people who are doing that said, the one place we're

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Speaker 4: not going to bother is California because it's so hostile

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Speaker 4: to business. Go ahead, Gavy, give us some more of

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Speaker 4: your clever, clever snark. Uh what a blank? That's That

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Speaker 4: was the perfect way to end my screed. It's a

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Speaker 4: multi syllable rhymes with bass shoal that's he.

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Speaker 1: Is a blank?

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Speaker 4: What a blank whole thing to say? I mean it's

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Speaker 4: beyond like bad governance or you know, misunderstanding of the economy.

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Speaker 1: It's just you're being a dick.

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Speaker 4: Oh please run for president. Please, I beg you, because

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Speaker 4: your humiliation will nourish.

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Speaker 1: My soul for a thousand years. Oh wow, soul nourishing

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Speaker 1: a thousand years. I stand by my statement. That was

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Speaker 1: a very standing on a hillside with a staff in

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Speaker 1: a robe for some reason sort of statement to make well.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm heading to London on vacation and I'm feeling

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Speaker 4: sure Chillian.

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Speaker 1: I think I was preaching kind of a Gandolf sort

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Speaker 1: of thing. There. Wow, soul for a thousand years.

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Speaker 3: You shall not stop us be lightning and storm clouds gathering.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 4: If anybody's good at ai and can do that, please,

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Speaker 4: we are lucky, send me the video.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are lucky in that the topic of shreking

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Speaker 3: as a dating thing came up and somebody with knowledge

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Speaker 3: of this specifically texted someone I know who has friends

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Speaker 3: that have been shreking. Oh no, this is dating somebody

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Speaker 3: who looks like a swamp, who looks like Shrek.

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Speaker 1: Unappealing on purpose? Why would you do that? It's kind

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Speaker 1: of interesting. I guarantee you you'll be surprised by this

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Speaker 1: and appalled a surprise at appalled. Oh good, So stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. Among other things, people aren't well, people

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Speaker 1: aren't dating or getting together as much as they used

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Speaker 1: to be period in a way that is really unique

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Speaker 3: And then the way that people date, if they do

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Speaker 3: like want to get together and get together with people,

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Speaker 3: is different than it's ever been, and their obviously would

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Speaker 3: be you know, upsides and downsides to all that. The

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Speaker 3: to be really heavy on appearance, right, because you're looking

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Speaker 3: that whether you're interested in them or not as a

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Speaker 3: quick aside.

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Speaker 4: Appearance in photographs, right, which can be different, honestly than

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Speaker 4: attractiveness in person very much for a variety of different ways.

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Speaker 4: Some people are better looking than their photographs generally, and

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Speaker 4: some people are the opposite.

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Speaker 3: And then just haven't we all had this experience. You

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Speaker 3: get to know somebody a little bit, they become either

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Speaker 1: It's just a fact. It's just a fact.

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Speaker 3: So and then you got this Joe mocked the idea

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Speaker 3: of this term, but I got inside information that this

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Speaker 3: is actually happening shreking USA today, and it's stupid USA

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Speaker 3: today way writing a story about something called shreking is

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Speaker 3: a new dating trend that's afoot. The term derives its

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Speaker 3: name from the animated film Shrek. I think you can

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Speaker 3: figure that out. Shreking involves dating someone you're not attracted

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Speaker 3: to in the hopes that this person will treat you

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Speaker 3: better in return. Unfortunately, when you get shrecked as a verb,

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Speaker 3: it means the person you lowered your standards for still

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Speaker 1: You very well. And then I guess that feels worse because.

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Speaker 3: Plenty of people have put looks lower on the list

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Speaker 3: or hope attraction would grow over time, and that in

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Speaker 3: itself isn't a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: Says this endless for USA today.

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Speaker 3: When it backfires is when someone assumes that just because

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Speaker 3: and then if that doesn't happen, they're disappointed. If you

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Speaker 3: it is doomed. I mean, that is just what a

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Speaker 3: terrible way to think about someone.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, you're cready putting them below you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and on something as as not important or

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Speaker 3: uncontrollable as looks. I mean, it's just it's just such

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Speaker 3: an awful thought. I tried dating down.

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Speaker 1: A stop right there.

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Speaker 3: Ooh ah, what a horrible thing to say or think.

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Speaker 4: Can we just use the term dysfunction and move on

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Speaker 4: a not everything that happens as a trend bee, not

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Speaker 4: everything needs a name. See, just try to find somebody.

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Speaker 4: You know, what best advice I ever heard? Who is

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Speaker 4: a god? Saad the oddly named fellow scholar from I

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Speaker 4: think he's Jordanian anyway, you said, the secret to a

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Speaker 4: happy marriage is marry your best friend who you happen

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Speaker 4: to be sexually attracted to.

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Speaker 1: That's what you're looking for.

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Speaker 4: Quit with your shreking and you're ghosting and you're whatever

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Speaker 4: the hell trends I don't even remember what they all are, because.

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Speaker 1: They're also stupid.

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Speaker 3: We've all been there, said one person who's been in

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Speaker 3: the dating world. With this, we give the guy we're

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Speaker 3: not attracted to a chance, thinking he will for sure

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Speaker 3: know what he has and treat us well.

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Speaker 1: But then he doesn't know what he has.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what he has is a shallow bee. What he

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Speaker 3: There's a Shrek five coming out, my son informed me

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Speaker 3: So this person texted me somebody who lives in LA

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Speaker 1: Realize what they had. Good. I know this. All of

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Speaker 4: You remember the old, the brilliant speech that that gal

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, this person also charges guys for first dates.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the reason is a name for ladies like you,

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Speaker 3: And this isn't a prostitus, Well, this isn't the sex exchange.

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Speaker 1: Me to look. Guys, stop doing this.

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Speaker 4: Let's don't stop it. Why would you support this horror?

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Speaker 1: You're willing to pay five hundred bucks? What what is

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Speaker 1: God's that a trend? No, the whole concept of dating down.

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Speaker 4: It is if you think you're dating down, they are

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Speaker 4: I don't like humans, I really don't. I mean individuals

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Speaker 4: Government of the UK says to save water, delete your

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Speaker 1: What are strong and getty?

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Speaker 7: The White House not reacting after the Kremlin poured cold

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Speaker 1: Extely busied this will not work.

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Speaker 8: We have already explained more than once that Russia does

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Speaker 1: Russia wants to be involved in the security of Ukraine Ellen,

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Speaker 1: as Jackie Heinrich continues in a moment in fact, why

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Speaker 7: State media the Kremlin dug In further, saying security guarantees

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Speaker 1: No, what the heck was whit Coff thinking he was misinformed? Again?

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Speaker 4: Or theomaster manipulators manipulated him into thinking that they had

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Speaker 4: although your metaphor, by the way, people are really enjoying,

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Speaker 1: What that's putin right in my agreement? When is it

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Speaker 3: Well, the president, but when is it going to dawn

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Speaker 3: When is it going to occur to you that he

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Speaker 4: I mean I couldn't tell myself, and not out of mirth,

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Speaker 4: And yet that's the assumption that's been running through all

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Speaker 4: I I'm not sold on us as a species. I

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Speaker 3: I can't figure out if it's a It's the classic

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Speaker 4: Yeah, every president's a bit of an egomaniac. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, with the loss of life. He's absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: And I just wonder whether Trump isn't so desirous of

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Speaker 4: But either way, the risk of if you don't give

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Speaker 4: Witkoff came back and told him, say, I talked to Putin.

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Speaker 3: going to respond. I mean, is that the rules of

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Speaker 3: engagement or not? And would it all only be defensive?

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Speaker 3: Would it be offensive? If if French and British troops

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Speaker 3: came under fire, would we let them handle that on

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Speaker 3: the ground or do we immediately go offensive into Russia

441
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Speaker 3: attacking you stopping that? I mean, what would be the

442
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Speaker 3: rules of engagement on that?

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Speaker 1: Well? Right, it's an excellent question.

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Speaker 4: I think any soldier, professional soldier could tell you the

445
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Speaker 4: idea of purely defensive war is not war. That's a

446
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Speaker 4: shooting gallery. You just volunteer to be in a shooting gallery.

447
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Speaker 4: Ask a lot of the guys who served in Afghanistan

448
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Speaker 4: during some of the incredibly ill advised rules of engagement

449
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Speaker 4: which handcuffed them and told them you can't shoot until

450
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Speaker 4: you're being shot at. Horrifying, but don't get me started.

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Speaker 4: So it's an excellent question.

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Speaker 3: We'd be really into the war and very close to

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Speaker 3: at war with Russia if we decide to supply air cover.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned this note from JT. We got why does

456
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Speaker 4: Putin need to sign anything? Since Russia will violate any

457
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Speaker 4: agreement they'll like violated the moment it's they just don't care,

458
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Speaker 4: And he asks, how would a signature by Putin change

459
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Speaker 4: a single thing about what European troops would do to

460
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Speaker 4: support Ukraine. They already know they can't trust him, so

461
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Speaker 4: why not just put boots on the ground and demand

462
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Speaker 4: that the current lines be honored or else The Trilac

463
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Speaker 4: group will respond, I'm totally serious. Name one thing that

464
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Speaker 4: would be different in the deployment of European troops if

465
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Speaker 4: Putin signed an agreement. It's you know what, most of

466
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Speaker 4: it's just political jt a. It would give you legitimacy

467
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Speaker 4: internationally in a way that I think is really jivy,

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Speaker 4: and it's hard for us to understand why anybody would

469
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Speaker 4: give a crap about that. It's like, you know, the

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Speaker 4: plausible deniability of saying those soldiers who took over eastern

471
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Speaker 4: Ukraine not to Russian forces there come to be called

472
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Speaker 4: the little Green men because it was so such a

473
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Speaker 4: joke that they weren't Russian forces. But for some reason

474
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Speaker 4: that sort of plausible deniability matters, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Anyway. My point is the agreement that would be signed.

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Speaker 4: Might help to give international legitimacy when the Allied forces

477
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Speaker 4: struck back against Putin. But I wouldn't spend a lot

478
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Speaker 4: of time in trouble getting Putin to sign on to

479
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Speaker 4: something he's going to violate next week. If, as you

480
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Speaker 4: are hinting at JT, the only thing Putin cares about

481
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Speaker 4: is force and power, organize the force and say you

482
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Speaker 4: cross this trip wire the force is going to be

483
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Speaker 4: used against you or through talking. I think that would

484
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Speaker 4: be perfectly fine if you are willing to accept that

485
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Speaker 4: it's worth Europe and the US's interests and risk of

486
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Speaker 4: escalating to back Ukraine in that way.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you don't. Well, it works

488
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Speaker 1: both ways too.

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Speaker 3: I've been I'm a fan of George will of the

490
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Speaker 3: Washington Post, and he's been talking and writing for years

491
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Speaker 3: about Article five, the whole NATO thing. That's as rock

492
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Speaker 3: solid and agreement as you can get. But he always

493
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Speaker 3: talks about treaties and agreements are true until they're not.

494
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Speaker 3: And at any point any NATO nation, including the United States,

495
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Speaker 3: could decide, you know what, we're not going.

496
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Speaker 1: To go to the war for Estonia or whoever one

497
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Speaker 1: of the NATO nations. We're just not.

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Speaker 3: I know we're supposed to, but we're not in the

499
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Speaker 3: same way that Putin would violate his Any European country

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Speaker 3: could violate the NATO agreement and might. I'll bet I

501
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 3: hope it doesn't happen, but I'll bet we see that

502
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Speaker 3: around Taiwan at some point the whole you're not going

503
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Speaker 3: to take that, Okay, well.

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Speaker 1: I guess maybe they are. And we're not going to

505
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Speaker 1: actually go to war with China over then, which.

506
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Speaker 4: Is why countries work so hard to be intertwined, because

507
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Speaker 4: international agreements only exist as long as they serve the individual.

508
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Speaker 1: Countries, you know, individual interests.

509
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Speaker 3: Putin is hoping that the NATO countries won't actually honor

510
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Speaker 3: that Article five. Article five an attack on one and

511
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Speaker 3: is an attack on all that won't actually or that

512
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Speaker 3: when it comes to push and shove over you know,

513
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Speaker 3: I don't know a chuck of pol under a Stonia

514
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Speaker 3: or whatever.

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Speaker 4: This is the opposite of strategic ambiguity. I think we

516
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: ought to have utter strategic clarity. You like, screw up

517
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Speaker 4: the turf on a soccer field in Estonia, We'll put

518
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Speaker 4: one hundred thousand troops there the next day.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if a Stonia is actually a NATO

521
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Speaker 3: or not. But that's not my point. Just one of

522
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Speaker 3: those little NATO countries. Are we going to go to

523
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Speaker 3: war over that or not?

524
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the and they are the Baltic nations. Yeah,

525
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Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying, one hundred percent clarity. That is

526
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Speaker 4: a practically one hundred percent guarantee against aggression at against

527
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Speaker 4: it going from step one, the little green men and

528
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Speaker 4: the minor incursions to quote the world's worst president, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: It's a guarantee against them. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, there might be a reason that people aren't saying

531
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Speaker 3: that out loud. They don't want to be they don't

532
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Speaker 3: want to be held to it Estonia.

533
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Speaker 4: When I am elected president number one, God help us

534
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Speaker 4: number two, I will make that policy clear.

535
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Speaker 1: A lot of golf.

536
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Speaker 3: Estonia has been a member of NATO since two thousand

537
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Speaker 3: and four, So there you go. They are And how

538
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Speaker 3: many of you ever even heard of Estonia? Would you

539
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: want your kid fighting in Estonia to protect it? And

540
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Speaker 3: that'll be a political question at some point.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we got a lot more on the way. Stay here.

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Speaker 9: Armstrong, a british Man, set a Guinness World Record by

543
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Speaker 9: writing fifty five different roller coasters in one week. Anything

544
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Speaker 9: to avoid brushing his teeth.

545
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Speaker 3: Wow, And Joe's going to be in Great Britain next

546
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Speaker 3: week and you're going to survey the dental care of

547
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Speaker 3: the Brits, among other things, and report.

548
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Speaker 1: Back to us.

549
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Speaker 4: I will also test the bounds of free speech and

550
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Speaker 4: report back on how woke their museum are.

551
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: Not surprisingly, we got a fair number of texts about shreking, which,

552
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: according to the USA Today and somebody who texted me

553
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: with personal knowledge, is a thing where women date down.

554
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Speaker 3: And I feel like anybody whoses the term date down

555
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: should be pushed off a cliff. People date down on

556
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: purpose thinking this is a cliff good enough?

557
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: Or should it be a volcano? Just ask you back

558
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: to you.

559
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: People who date down in terms of looks feel like

560
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: they'll be treated better because this person really realizes what they've.

561
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Speaker 1: Got, which is an appalling sentence. I mean, just a

562
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Speaker 1: ball really is.

563
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Speaker 3: And the fact that there are a bunch of people

564
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Speaker 3: that think that and actually do that is disgusting.

565
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Speaker 1: This might be how I got married. Yeah, Well maybe

566
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Speaker 1: I'm just so outraged because I'm wondering how often does

567
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: this happened to me?

568
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Speaker 4: As a friend of the Armstrong and Getty Show, wrote

569
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Speaker 4: I thought I was just charming.

570
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: Well, now I know.

571
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: On the topic though. So a person I know said

572
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: that some of her friends have done this. They have

573
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: dated down thinking they would get treated better, and then

574
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: weren't treated better, and so they call that being shrekeed

575
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 3: and were disappointed. And as Joe pointed out, maybe they

576
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: just figured out you're a shallow bitch.

577
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: A manipulative she devils. Yes, it's not quite as complicated

578
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: as it sounds.

579
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: But then there was the other person, this friend of mine,

580
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: a person who's shreked, who actually tells guys, if you

581
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: want to go out with me, it's gonna I need

582
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars to look the way you want me

583
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: to look, hair nails, everything like that, and then you

584
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: get to be seen with me, I guess or whatever.

585
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: And I thought that was appalling. But we got this

586
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: text regarding rent a hottie. How is that different from

587
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: renting a ferrari? So no one should ever rent a ferrari.

588
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 3: If you have the dollar, do what makes you smile?

589
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

590
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: I would suggest that you have priorities that will lead

591
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: you not to happiness, But you do you brother, There's.

592
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Speaker 3: I can't I'll have to think about it for longer

593
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: than I've got right now. On why it is incredibly

594
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Speaker 3: different to rent a Ferrari to see what it's like

595
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Speaker 3: to drive a Ferrari.

596
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say, number one, you get to

597
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Speaker 4: drive the Ferrari. If you know what I'm saying.

598
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Speaker 1: Well, okay, I wouldn't even think of that. But if

599
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: you're but well, it's different.

600
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Speaker 4: Are you mo Seriously, he's paying money to be seen

601
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Speaker 4: standing next to a Ferrari.

602
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Speaker 1: That's stupid. See, I would rent a Ferrari maybe to

603
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: actually drive a Ferrari, because I don't know what it's like.

604
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: I've never done it, and it might be pretty cool.

605
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: And then for a variety of reasons, I can't or

606
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Speaker 3: ever won't own one because it doesn't make practical sense.

607
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Speaker 3: Is that's a similar thing, but it's way different than that.

608
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Speaker 3: If you're actually dating, like you're trying to be in

609
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Speaker 3: a relationship with somebody, which is like one of the

610
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Speaker 3: most satisfying things that can happen in your entire existence

611
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: on planet Earth. And if that's what your goal is

612
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: and you're going about it this way, I don't, I

613
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: don't know what you're doing.

614
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: Well, you're doomed to misery. Let's go ahead and bottom

615
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: line it here, doomed to misery. Yes, it's a ClearCase

616
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: of DTM. I mean, I know I see it. So

617
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: if you tell her I'm not paying you five hundred dollars,

618
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: is she going to show up in sweats and no makeup?

619
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: And I told you what an odd way to live

620
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: your life? No kidding, how's that working out for you?

621
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Speaker 1: Would be a good question.

622
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Speaker 4: You know, there are you know, sub sectors of American

623
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Speaker 4: society that are as foreign to me as you know

624
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Speaker 4: somebody in Africa with a plate in their lip, or

625
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: you know in Afghanistan where they play that sport where

626
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 4: you whack a calf's head around on horseback or something

627
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 4: like that.

628
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Speaker 1: I can't remember precisely.

629
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Speaker 3: Outworks If you're picking somebody only and looks so, how

630
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 3: long is that enjoyable? I would think that would wear

631
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 3: off so fast. I don't really have anything in common

632
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: with you. I don't really find you very interesting, but

633
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: I guess I'll look at you.

634
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Speaker 1: From how long does that last?

635
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 4: So the amusing side is the British government wants you

636
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: to conserve water, and one of the ways they suggest

637
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 4: you to do it is by deleting your own your

638
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: old emails. That story unbelievable, and one of Obama's climate

639
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 4: zars says, you guys want to know the real truth

640
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: about climate change, I got it for you, oh boy,

641
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty