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Speaker 1: let's take a few questions from some of our listeners,
Speaker 1: because without the listeners, we wouldn't even be here. And
Speaker 1: one of the first questions that comes up REDG, I
Speaker 1: know you know about this. How did the Little Half
Speaker 1: Dead being the TUPAC shooter theory even begin? This was
Speaker 1: also addressed in one of the A and E documentaries
Speaker 1: where they interviewed a little half dead and he basically
Speaker 1: was like, I had nothing to do with this, but
Speaker 1: I heard that rumor throughout the year. So tell us
Speaker 1: how that rumor got started. Yeah, what what what happened
Speaker 1: was it was this crazy cycle due from that's in jail, uh,
Speaker 1: from molestations and has a history of of psychosis or whatever.
Speaker 1: Um that's in in in prison. And they wrote a
Speaker 1: letter at his niece write a letter to this A
Speaker 1: reporter from the Fox News uh who was hot in
Speaker 1: l A by the name of Chris Blackford at the time.
Speaker 1: My man Chris. So Chris got this letter. He received
Speaker 1: a letter I don't know two thousand and ninety nine
Speaker 1: or something like that, and UM, I was trying to
Speaker 1: follow up on it, and they came up to a
Speaker 1: dead in um situation. Uh. Madson request to them the
Speaker 1: you know, they said they had the murder weapon and
Speaker 1: all of that and it never materialized. He uh, he
Speaker 1: fouled it away in his files. You had the old
Speaker 1: white man. Uh and this this obsessed police detective that
Speaker 1: up and quit his job, uh six months before he
Speaker 1: was eligible for retirement because he felt that the lap
Speaker 1: D wasn't you know, Chief with our parts told him hey,
Speaker 1: stop it. Stop wasting our resources and our money. Um
Speaker 1: going down this lane. This is not accurate information and
Speaker 1: he lost the name was Russell Pool eventually died art attacked.
Speaker 1: Uh but he died, I mean he uh so he
Speaker 1: uh take a lead and when Chris Blashford and met
Speaker 1: with christ Rassler and Chris Blackford gave it to him.
Speaker 1: And here's a lead that we we got some time ago.
Speaker 1: I checked it out, but things didn't them fall where
Speaker 1: they were supposed to fall to Russell Pool. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Russell Pool kind of believes the theory. He believes it.
Speaker 1: But Russell Pool believe anything but but the truth. And
Speaker 1: that's why he uh, you know, for a man to
Speaker 1: quit their job, uh lose their retirement benefits there retirement
Speaker 1: checking everything for the rest of their life six months
Speaker 1: prior to being eligible to receive all of that, you
Speaker 1: got to show the state of mind that he that
Speaker 1: he was in basically obsessied with with the case. He
Speaker 1: was obsessed for the case, then improving that his theory.
Speaker 1: It's my way in no way, typical stubborn old man.
Speaker 1: So there's you get this with this uh, this guy
Speaker 1: that does documentary see that I did about four different
Speaker 1: documentaries accusing me and shire Knight of of murder of
Speaker 1: Tupac and Biggie. And now they got this new theory
Speaker 1: and they want to change up on it because it's
Speaker 1: all about making some money and so this is their
Speaker 1: new theory and they wouldn't full blast with it. They
Speaker 1: uh the letter that accuses uh little health that been
Speaker 1: involved with myself and shook Knight ex wife Sharia Knight
Speaker 1: for taking over the company need to uh for our
Speaker 1: benefit and little half they had been about because he
Speaker 1: was ad because Tupac stold the song Brenda got a baby, um,
Speaker 1: which is impossible top years old at the time. The
Speaker 1: timeline that makes no sense. I mean, we didn't have
Speaker 1: people that show that was in the studio with with
Speaker 1: uh what Tupac when he wrote Brenda got a baby
Speaker 1: and all of that. That's a this is crazy. Little
Speaker 1: Half there was like, this is crazy and so this
Speaker 1: is how that they we got out there. Bridge j
Speaker 1: Me ask you something, how do you feel that with
Speaker 1: these people making all these allegations against you and constantly
Speaker 1: keep using your name and well, let's say putting your
Speaker 1: name and in this situation, you know, like on our
Speaker 1: last episode, last week, I kind of got a little
Speaker 1: test because um and I listened back to it, and
Speaker 1: I apologize to you because maybe I got a little
Speaker 1: sense of them. I don't like using the word since then,
Speaker 1: I that I got a little sense of that. Okay
Speaker 1: with about you forgot already. It's only been a week
Speaker 1: and you forgot. But anyway, Um, like I said, I
Speaker 1: don't care about when people accused me of being involved
Speaker 1: in the the the murder of Biggie Small, even though
Speaker 1: it's not true, it doesn't bother me. But toothpox, your
Speaker 1: core was somebody that I was with there and there
Speaker 1: every day of the eleven months that he was you know,
Speaker 1: with death row, somebody that I was in charge of
Speaker 1: of of his his security, and he you know, became
Speaker 1: our friend. We were somebody were hanging out with traveling
Speaker 1: strip parties, all types of things with a friend. And
Speaker 1: so to be accused of um being involved in the
Speaker 1: murder of him, it hurts. It bothers me to the core,
Speaker 1: so especially by people that had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: his life. I didn't even know who a Tupac's your
Speaker 1: core was in. That's said, oh in two thousand's this
Speaker 1: is the one way I can benefit and make some money.
Speaker 1: Let me slander this man's name. Let me let me
Speaker 1: put this out. Let's see what the dumb people think.
Speaker 1: Did you ever consider any lawsuits against people who actually
Speaker 1: accuse you of or linking you to the murder of
Speaker 1: Tupac when the evidence is actually in your favor that
Speaker 1: you had nothing to do with it. Yeah, but unfortunately
Speaker 1: all the motherfucker's are broke this accusing you of this.
Speaker 1: They're called judgment proof. But are they linked to any
Speaker 1: companies or businesses when they made these allegations. Sure you
Speaker 1: can go out there, but the they probably um indemnified.
Speaker 1: Like for example, Chris Blackford, nobody big, None of these
Speaker 1: big people did. Bastard never accused. I wish Fox News
Speaker 1: whatever I was gonna say News. He said, hey, here's
Speaker 1: a letter I got to investigator. Christian is a good cat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's cool. I've been years and then I brought you.
Speaker 1: I met him in five christ has reached out to
Speaker 1: meet over time. I brought um. You know, I brought
Speaker 1: Shook down a couple of times to do interviews with
Speaker 1: Christian and stuff. So yeah, he was a true investigative journalist.
Speaker 1: And they don't really have them anymore. It all went
Speaker 1: not like him at all, and they weren't given the
Speaker 1: budget to how many people got that budgets. Now the
Speaker 1: budgets are going more towards like the rumor news as
Speaker 1: opposed to the investigative journalism that Chris Blackford used to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that's a crazy I mean
Speaker 1: to go to sleep with all these people thinking, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it didn't follow me at first. It didn't start following
Speaker 1: me until I had a I have an eighteen year
Speaker 1: old son and his name is Reginald Right the third,
Speaker 1: and um when his name, when you know, his started
Speaker 1: getting linked and he's starting to read and understand and
Speaker 1: listening to some of the stuff out here, and you
Speaker 1: were like, you know, you had kept them insulated from
Speaker 1: all of that all their lives, and now they're a
Speaker 1: little older and their friends and stuff like that starting
Speaker 1: to hear about exactly. So, if Russell Pool really believed
Speaker 1: in this little half dead Reggie Wright should read the theory,
Speaker 1: what was his view on Orlando Anderson? Then um, they
Speaker 1: believe it was all the fake, it's all the stunt,
Speaker 1: and that they were policies. Their whole theory is Um,
Speaker 1: it was originally shocked. He since when to try to apologize?
Speaker 1: What's your before he died? A matter of fact, why
Speaker 1: he was He was in the sheriff department when he died,
Speaker 1: trying to broke her a deal for sharing to get
Speaker 1: out of out of custody, uh and say, hey, she
Speaker 1: was willing to say this and say that if y'all,
Speaker 1: if y'all willing to uh let him go, which most
Speaker 1: people think it was the cooperation on the murder of Tupac,
Speaker 1: which it really was the cooperation or identifying the person
Speaker 1: who who shot him inside the One Oaks club. That's
Speaker 1: what most people don't know. But yeah, so Russell Pool
Speaker 1: changed his theory as well. All right, let's go get
Speaker 1: onto it. Uh. The next question, which is semi related
Speaker 1: Kevin Gaines l A p D Officer Kevin Gaines, who
Speaker 1: was later killed by Frank liga Um Solo Dolo from
Speaker 1: Instagram wants to know, was l A p D Officer
Speaker 1: Kevin Gaines at the MGM hotel the same night where
Speaker 1: all of this happened. When Pot got killed later that night.
Speaker 1: The only thing I can ever attest to is by
Speaker 1: his girlfriend at the time, which was ext wife. Uh.
Speaker 1: Our extrange wife at the time. Sarita, Uh, she said
Speaker 1: she was. He was with her. Um, why would he
Speaker 1: be at d MGM with us. We're not white folks.
Speaker 1: White folks only do that bullshit where they fattened eyes
Speaker 1: and be cool with their with somebody who's sucking on
Speaker 1: their work's wife. We don't get down like that. So then, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're saying it makes no sense for Sharita sugs X
Speaker 1: to be in Vegas with Kevin Gaines. Well that or
Speaker 1: I'm saying we will allow the lady that's have an affair,
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy that's having an affair with shows
Speaker 1: wife to be hanging out with us. But if you're strange,
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter, does it. Okay, I'm asking I
Speaker 1: guess you're asking white. Didn't you what I mean? That
Speaker 1: was racist? I'm asking a legitimate question. If you were strange,
Speaker 1: that means I don't really care about you as a wife,
Speaker 1: and I don't care about you as I want to
Speaker 1: hang out with you taking you to a prize fight.
Speaker 1: This question wasn't about hanging out. It just says was
Speaker 1: Kevin Gaines there? And then because they are saying that
Speaker 1: they are there with us, That's the only reason they
Speaker 1: would care that he where's he at because they want
Speaker 1: to know if he was with us at the time.
Speaker 1: Basically yes, no, I mean I told you we know
Speaker 1: he went with death Roll. Well then if he was
Speaker 1: there on some other mission, how the hell would I
Speaker 1: know if he wasn't with us. I wasn't there, but
Speaker 1: he I was out there. I knew who was all
Speaker 1: the players who was there, and I was at Club
Speaker 1: six six to getting that prepared. But the reason for
Speaker 1: the question is not where he's at, what was he doing?
Speaker 1: I want to know if he was having a couple
Speaker 1: of coffee at Starbucks. You know. The question is because
Speaker 1: I want to know if he was out there with y'all,
Speaker 1: does he have anything to do with Because that goes
Speaker 1: back to what I said earlier, how they want to
Speaker 1: have the cops involved in the murder of Tupac and
Speaker 1: Big Well. I think it's a fair question considering when
Speaker 1: Kevin Games was killed by Frank Liga, he was sitting
Speaker 1: in a car register or to either Suge Night or
Speaker 1: death row records. He was sitting in the car that
Speaker 1: was registered to UH death row records because he was
Speaker 1: fucking to Night wife. Yes, that's why everyone knew that.
Speaker 1: We didn't. You guys didn't know that. We didn't know that.
Speaker 1: But they were already estranged. They were strange. They weren't together,
Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm sorry. Sugar already had moved on
Speaker 1: in his relationship. He had babies and stuff all that,
Speaker 1: but he still was cool with his a strange wife
Speaker 1: as well. That's a that's a contradiction. If you're cool,
Speaker 1: then you're not estranged. For um, well they had business.
Speaker 1: Well okay, well they wasn't a strange then. They weren't
Speaker 1: living together, sleeping together, but they had business. She was
Speaker 1: she was managing most of his artists. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to say, man, Yeah, I mean, I have questions.
Speaker 1: But they had a relationship where he didn't pretty much
Speaker 1: care what she was doing, and obviously she didn't care
Speaker 1: what you were doing. But they were divorce and they
Speaker 1: had business. He was managing Snoop Dogg, who was the
Speaker 1: biggest artist on his label. Okay, the bottom line is,
Speaker 1: you don't nobody knew if if Kevin Gaines was there.
Speaker 1: We know what I said earlier by stertas testimony, They
Speaker 1: went at home in North Hollywood at their house Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: he wasn't there. I was just trying to tell you
Speaker 1: why the man asked the question. If I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: said no, you ain't not getting him with justice justifying,
Speaker 1: I could have easily said no, he wasn't there. Well.
Speaker 1: I think that Kevin Gang story is fascinating. Uh, And
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things we don't know
Speaker 1: about Kevin Gaines. Um, what what do you mean he
Speaker 1: was having an unfair with the man's ex wife. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he was also linked to other l a p
Speaker 1: D officers that got caught up in the Rampart scandal
Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with us. That's why it
Speaker 1: comes back to us because of that that relationship. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, there's a handful of black officers that went
Speaker 1: through the Rampart division or they were friends because you
Speaker 1: knew the ramp are officers now and he's dirty. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think Kevin Games was actually a dirty cop.
Speaker 1: And I never heard his name mentioned in there. But
Speaker 1: you just made the correlation because I'm making the correlation
Speaker 1: because he knew them. Just because you know David mckor
Speaker 1: you know Raphael Perez doesn't mean you're you're dirty and
Speaker 1: I don't even know if evidence that he knew them
Speaker 1: all all. He was killed at the intersection in the
Speaker 1: valley by another lp D officer, Frank Liga, and that
Speaker 1: happens road rage. I tried to tell you earlier, it's
Speaker 1: ten thousand police officers. Every cop don't know each other.
Speaker 1: I know the outside world think they all know each other.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I don't know a thousand people in
Speaker 1: my life. I don't know all all ten I wouldn't
Speaker 1: know all ten thousand cops if I was a cop
Speaker 1: in the l A p D. I wasn't. I knew
Speaker 1: all the two hundred that worked with me at Compton
Speaker 1: p D. But I didn't they. I'm telling you l
Speaker 1: A p D. All of them don't know all ten
Speaker 1: thousand officers. That pony officers. They all probably know is
Speaker 1: is the brass, the chief and all of that. They
Speaker 1: all know him, but they don't know each other. The
Speaker 1: other divisions and stuff. But in that bizarre situation where
Speaker 1: two cops end up in a road rade incident and
Speaker 1: Frank Liga ends up killing Kevin Gaines, he says that
Speaker 1: Kevin Gaines pulled his weapon out, but Kevin Gaines never
Speaker 1: got he never got to bus, and some people say
Speaker 1: if Kevin Gaines pulled out his trap, he should have
Speaker 1: got at least one off. He didn't get nothing off,
Speaker 1: So there's some unanswered questions about that interaction. Oh, we
Speaker 1: definitely believe that. I mean, this is the officer that
Speaker 1: bragged about it a few years ago that eventually had
Speaker 1: got terminated for bragging about shooting this and he wished
Speaker 1: it was more niggas in the car. Yeah, I heard
Speaker 1: that audio. He didn't know he's being recorded by and
Speaker 1: was being recorded by another officer in the room that
Speaker 1: was his friend. Yeah, but this white dude is that
Speaker 1: comfortable enough to say this in the room full of
Speaker 1: officers and some black officers at a training session. Don't
Speaker 1: you think something shady happened that day between Frank Lager
Speaker 1: and Kevin Gaines or you think it's just the typical
Speaker 1: road rage. I think they were following him. I think
Speaker 1: he was following him, and then Kevin realized that this
Speaker 1: dude following him, and he confronted him and he got upset.
Speaker 1: If he was a good car what they followed him for?
Speaker 1: They knew he was riding around and the Porsche he
Speaker 1: was dressing and with for Sachi shirts. He had a
Speaker 1: license plate on his porch that said fuck I A.
Speaker 1: And he was no, no, no, not, it's okay, I
Speaker 1: A something about it. He was disrespecting I a internal
Speaker 1: fair deparmer, and he was having an affair with the
Speaker 1: head of death row records wife and he was married
Speaker 1: at the time himself. I believe I forget that situation.
Speaker 1: I think so because a matter of fact, I think
Speaker 1: in the settlement because they end up paying out. Uh,
Speaker 1: the wife got some money, the kids got some money,
Speaker 1: and they had to do because they didn't want to
Speaker 1: bring it before the council. So they paid him eat
Speaker 1: whatever that maximum was. They paid individuals um each. And
Speaker 1: also Kevin Gaines, No, he wasn't married. He had a
Speaker 1: lawsuit against I believe the sheriff department or another law
Speaker 1: enforcement entity where he got a settlement years before, so
Speaker 1: he actually challenged the system. He was it was probably
Speaker 1: a rebel or something like that. But I also get
Speaker 1: information that he was a cop cop that you know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't for the drama or anything. But I don't
Speaker 1: know that. Man. I never met him before in my life.
Speaker 1: And my point is, and people always said, well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he worked for y'all. He worked for you. Come on,
Speaker 1: that's why I get mad and I make the how
Speaker 1: would that make the guy was having a fair but
Speaker 1: you said you didn't know, so you would you could
Speaker 1: have theoretically hired and didn't know. Okay, well I didn't
Speaker 1: know and I didn't have it. But that ain't what
Speaker 1: people believe. People believe that the guy that was having
Speaker 1: an affair with Sarita Night work for death for records
Speaker 1: and Reggie Hardy, Well don't you think, oh, they could
Speaker 1: have been could have been found out if it was investigated.
Speaker 1: You know you're getting the check, if you're getting a
Speaker 1: check on the death rod. Don't you think they can
Speaker 1: go on that? It was not the right way. But
Speaker 1: trust me, I turned over I turned over all of
Speaker 1: that paperwork, all that information. Everybody knows that except who
Speaker 1: conspirators old white man that Mike to make DVDs regarding
Speaker 1: Reggie right, well, I want to emphasize that Kevin Gaines
Speaker 1: has never been implicated in any rampart scandal because he
Speaker 1: was not a cricket cop that we know of. They
Speaker 1: never proved that, never proved that he did anything illegal
Speaker 1: as an l A p D officer. He was a
Speaker 1: guy that challenged the system and was the only thing
Speaker 1: we know about that is he had a license plate
Speaker 1: that was disrespecting internal affairs. Yeah, so sometimes I think
Speaker 1: Kevin Gaine gets a bad rap, but I think his
Speaker 1: story is interesting and um no, this is what happened,
Speaker 1: and this is why a lot of people are like
Speaker 1: the link Lincoln to him. The officers that shot and
Speaker 1: killed uh Kevin Gaines was Frank Liga. When Raphael Press
Speaker 1: and now signed out the dope that they stole, Yeah,
Speaker 1: guess who names they put on it. He put Franks
Speaker 1: because he was mad because his boy got killed or whatever.
Speaker 1: Who knows. I don't. I can't say that they were
Speaker 1: friends because we don't know why. Well, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: but I think, um there was a person that testified
Speaker 1: that said that I know who I know that the
Speaker 1: drugs got taken out because back then they didn't have
Speaker 1: an accounting they didn't have an accounting system. Sir Raphael
Speaker 1: Press walks in there, takes out with six key loads,
Speaker 1: put Frank like hiss name as the one that took
Speaker 1: checked it out, and then the lady said that they
Speaker 1: take it and then they put bacon. Solda when they're
Speaker 1: playing it back or whatever. So when they investigated, they
Speaker 1: go ask the lady in the evidence room, like who
Speaker 1: took out the cocaine? And she says it was just
Speaker 1: a black guy that spoke Spanish. That's all I remember,
Speaker 1: and that was too hard to figure out. Well, I
Speaker 1: think he comped out to it. And that's my point.
Speaker 1: If he comped out to all of this ship, laid
Speaker 1: out other cops, laid on all these people, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: he ever a cop out? Oh yeah, I work for
Speaker 1: death Records. Oh yeah, I work for that cop that
Speaker 1: worked the cop to p D. They have never mentioned
Speaker 1: my name, but many people ever mentioned us together. It's
Speaker 1: outside people, people that had nothing to do with l
Speaker 1: A p D or or anything. Or one cop retire
Speaker 1: called Russell Pool. And that's why Perora Partson was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: allowed you to investigate this. There's nothing to it. Move on.
Speaker 1: Oh no, forget that. I quit all right bye. But
Speaker 1: this is where all of this come on on the
Speaker 1: internet from. It's from a situation like that. We'll imagine
Speaker 1: this how many of the l A p D officers
Speaker 1: that were linked to the ramparts scandal ever worked for
Speaker 1: Right Way slash death row records matter. One, I only
Speaker 1: had two lp D officers that ever worked for me,
Speaker 1: and they investigated them. They knew who they were, Richard
Speaker 1: McCauley and a guy by the name of David Love.
Speaker 1: Only two the LPD cough ever worked for me. Now,
Speaker 1: how often does that come up though, that these l
Speaker 1: A p D officers from Rampart and these rogue officers
Speaker 1: were also linked to you. For anyone that still believes
Speaker 1: that death roll has something to do our Reggie right
Speaker 1: security has something to do with the murder of Biggie
Speaker 1: Small or two Papa Well, No, no official law enforcements
Speaker 1: believe that anymore. They know the real they have the
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, both cases has been solved in
Speaker 1: their mind. They just can't prove it. All right, Let's
Speaker 1: move on. Someone from Sweden wants to know where are
Speaker 1: the no go in quotes no go zones uh in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles County, which would be Long Beach, Compton Watts,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Inglewood, Guardina. Let's start to James, what are
Speaker 1: some of the most no go zones that you don't
Speaker 1: want to go to? The projects? Uh, you don't want
Speaker 1: to go downtown L A downtown. They did what they
Speaker 1: gentrified it, even with all the homelessness. They got these
Speaker 1: bars and clubs that go on Mr Park. Then you
Speaker 1: know the mor Park wasn't actually not that bad that
Speaker 1: you're talking about gentification. But park, Now, I wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put the Mark M Park on my list of places.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would say the Jungles Aka down from
Speaker 1: it is. I would say stay away from don't don't
Speaker 1: make it right, stay stay away from the Jays that night,
Speaker 1: Stay away from the Nick project period. Stay away from
Speaker 1: all four of the projects and watch at night. What
Speaker 1: are the most sensitive areas in Compton Because on the
Speaker 1: West side some of the neighborhoods and Compton are kind
Speaker 1: of from Sweden. You're probably on the pill side. So
Speaker 1: I will say, uh, stay away from the whole city.
Speaker 1: The whole city. Wow, that's you just at night. You
Speaker 1: just took a big dump on Compton Man and Asian
Speaker 1: Brown is not gonna be happy about that. Asian Brown
Speaker 1: to get over it. You need to fix the streets.
Speaker 1: That's what you need to be worried about. But it's
Speaker 1: true that their worst parts of Compton than other areas.
Speaker 1: I'd say the west Side has less violence and homicides
Speaker 1: in crime than the East Side does. Areas like Lantana,
Speaker 1: Lantana Block, there were the swamp sorry where track news
Speaker 1: at and being pale and not speakers in Spanish, and
Speaker 1: stay your ass straight by the airport and stay on
Speaker 1: the main rolls and keep going, all right, James, And
Speaker 1: that's that night. You know, they can ride down Alameda
Speaker 1: and willow Brook and all that coming from the Comfort
Speaker 1: Courthouse because there's a lot of white folks who work
Speaker 1: up the Comfort Courthouse, but they take their as straight
Speaker 1: to the ninety one freeway. And that's what's suggested to
Speaker 1: him in Hollywood, I meaning, uh, somewhere in Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: your bell ash somewhere. I don't like no parts of
Speaker 1: l A. You go name a place in l ah No,
Speaker 1: there's some there's some beautiful areas in l A. I
Speaker 1: love the West Adams area. I love because you're okay
Speaker 1: over there. We're talking about Sweden people. So you you
Speaker 1: you suggest them going to heroes and Bills over there.
Speaker 1: On Absolutely, there's there's all kind of white folks walking
Speaker 1: their dogs around there, and that well, you said that
Speaker 1: the gentification is going on over there right going on
Speaker 1: the mirt Park right now. I would those white folks
Speaker 1: that's over there living over there are different. Type of
Speaker 1: white folks are different. A person from Sweden lost gonna
Speaker 1: need direction and all of that. Come on, man, they
Speaker 1: need to stay away from the mirf park. Less they
Speaker 1: have some escorts to take them on the Hurls and Bills,
Speaker 1: I will suggest they go to Hurls and Bills and
Speaker 1: have a nice little sofa wells just fishing stuff now,
Speaker 1: but go there. But I have some escorts with you.
Speaker 1: How do your uber driver get out and go in
Speaker 1: with I think the area where Harold and Bells is
Speaker 1: that it's fine on Jefferson right off a Crunshaw. You
Speaker 1: won't have any problem there if you're white walking around
Speaker 1: walking around, yeah, walking around them. There's all kind of
Speaker 1: white folks in that part of l A. I've seen
Speaker 1: that they've been doing a lot. They got whole foods
Speaker 1: can build up there. They've got stuff. But there's one
Speaker 1: neighborhood in Inglewood. I gotta mention the bottom right off
Speaker 1: of where the crunch On office right there's off ninety
Speaker 1: nine and century. That's like the part of Inglewood. You
Speaker 1: don't want to go to total projects on the bottom,
Speaker 1: but they definitely a gentrifying all of Inglewood, and I
Speaker 1: would say most of Inglewood is cool. Well, stay out
Speaker 1: of the bottoms though. If you're in Inglewood, it's the
Speaker 1: casino and in the football still let's go look at that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the casino, the Century Corridor, they got all the Costco
Speaker 1: and bed bathroom beyond and red Lofter and Chili's. Uh,
Speaker 1: they really revamped that whole area of Inglewood. Ingle is
Speaker 1: actually really nice. But I rolled through the bottoms other
Speaker 1: day and I was like, Wow, it's still griming over here.
Speaker 1: It's still griming. That's a home in the Crunshawn Mafia.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Crunshaw office, the relatives. That was
Speaker 1: my my at the relatives, Big yeah, that's be standing
Speaker 1: for sucking bitches and James you said that at the Nikolsons.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna add to that Imperial Courts and what's the
Speaker 1: other one, Pebblos, the Pebblos. And then if you want
Speaker 1: to talk about the Latino projects, you want to stay
Speaker 1: out of Estrada Courts, Ramona Gardens, and again they'll be
Speaker 1: able to go to the dispensaries if they don't go
Speaker 1: over there. How you can find dispensers all over So,
Speaker 1: I mean l A is not that bad. We had
Speaker 1: one of the lowest homicides counts last year and it
Speaker 1: keeps on going down. And even Compton. Compton used to
Speaker 1: average like murders a year, remember those years very well, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now they haven't what like thirty or forty ye years?
Speaker 1: Hell know how many of years now? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it ain't that low. Oh, it's pretty low. That's
Speaker 1: somebody looked that up. How many homicides the Compton have
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eighteen? Um, I know when it
Speaker 1: was over a hundred. That was high for the city
Speaker 1: of that size. The only reason we wasn't considered the
Speaker 1: homicide copolt racles because we didn't have a hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: It was just at like ninety. And when you got
Speaker 1: you got once you had those, they only gave cities
Speaker 1: over a hundred thousand. They are the only ones that
Speaker 1: the f b I gave reports on. We always kept
Speaker 1: the census down. So, um, do you remember the most
Speaker 1: homicides that Compton had? I think it went up to
Speaker 1: like one ten on one twenty a couple of years Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like, um, I was doing your crack air
Speaker 1: days um in the mid nineties or something, and the
Speaker 1: most homicides l A had in one year was like
Speaker 1: a thousand, a little over a thousand. Now it's like
Speaker 1: right under three hundred, and you know, it's weird. A
Speaker 1: lot of people think that the crack cocaine epidemic contributed
Speaker 1: to the highest homicide rate in Los Angeles, but let
Speaker 1: me see if I have here now, it mainly had
Speaker 1: burglaries and stuff like that. Look, the two highest years
Speaker 1: for homicides in Los Angeles was actually and eighty pre
Speaker 1: dates when the starting it was like eight it was starting,
Speaker 1: but the rock then really hit hit like we're just
Speaker 1: rocking cocaine up in nineteen eighty man, little just starting
Speaker 1: maybe free basing, not not rock. We was how you
Speaker 1: gonna champ? I think you got your day from so
Speaker 1: we don't gotta say. Eighty three, eighty five, eighty six, seven,
Speaker 1: y'all was big in it then. But then Nika was
Speaker 1: smoking on SERM in eighties, seven, nine, and eighties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were smoking Shane. Yeah, cocaine did the neighborhood there.
Speaker 1: Red I just had someone look up the number of
Speaker 1: homicides and Compton two thousand eighteen, twenty one homicides in
Speaker 1: Compton two thousand eighteen, and the population is ninety seven
Speaker 1: thousand according to that to that good, and it used
Speaker 1: to be like probably down on county wide. Then oh,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely downcount. But that of shows the dramatic drop
Speaker 1: used to be around a hundred now it it was.
Speaker 1: It was twenty one last year in jail. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: every generation bird's new killers. Yeah, but they Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I guess the three strike is working on No, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't give it to the right. And the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: peak was eight with one thousand eight and then in
Speaker 1: the year of the Riots one thousand ninety two, and
Speaker 1: now l A is at like to ninety. So imagine
Speaker 1: going from over a thousand murders a year now we're
Speaker 1: at two ninety. But let's look at our parking reck
Speaker 1: budgets and how many baseball fields and all of that
Speaker 1: we have because we don't put all our resources and
Speaker 1: our money into law enforcements and then took away from
Speaker 1: all the park of r parker um wreck um programs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need more parks and red programs. We need more
Speaker 1: baseball programs. I was listening to someone said that Campanella
Speaker 1: used to have the most incredible baseball program, and everyone's
Speaker 1: over used to come there and play baseball. South Park
Speaker 1: Ship because I was park at the best Jackie Robinson stadium.
Speaker 1: I heard. I heard they had a good football program,
Speaker 1: and I've never seen a football program in Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 1: The football that was a great compl Okay, we had
Speaker 1: football greater Compton and then one. I don't know nothing
Speaker 1: about that. I didn't play all that stuff. You busy
Speaker 1: worry about rocking up. You weren't playing any sports. Gang
Speaker 1: banging even when you was ten eight nine, ten wasn't
Speaker 1: gang banging. I was tanning up stuff. I know you
Speaker 1: was knocking out school teachers over there, and I didn't
Speaker 1: knock out or slapped or bust the nose. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: pretty much kicked the school district. All right, let's move
Speaker 1: on to another question here. Um, you know this is
Speaker 1: this is really an interesting question. This is for you, James.
Speaker 1: This comes from Spain. Someone from Spain. This is from Foulow.
Speaker 1: It's from Foolow from Thing. If I wanted to start
Speaker 1: a mab Piru chapter in Madrid, could you travel here
Speaker 1: and help us establish it. Well, I was thinking one
Speaker 1: way when you first mentioned that to me, but then
Speaker 1: you said they're not on the game bang and tchip
Speaker 1: like here, no they're not. Help them start a charter, don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I think I'm shining and running away from
Speaker 1: that because that's not the life I'm trying to live.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to portray that part of that side.
Speaker 1: Because you're thinking of ma Piru from the Compton perspective,
Speaker 1: you could be the one that changed the direction of
Speaker 1: the mab Piru brand. No, but I can't go out
Speaker 1: there and then try to tell them something like they
Speaker 1: want something good. What is it they want? I don't know.
Speaker 1: They want an identity, that's all about. That's what it's
Speaker 1: all about, whether it's if you even in Compton, it's
Speaker 1: all about I want to belong to something. I want
Speaker 1: to be a part of something. I want to identity,
Speaker 1: whether it's the boy Scouts or my Piru Where why
Speaker 1: don't you go let me shut it up and we
Speaker 1: don't have a conversation with him. Maybe we can go
Speaker 1: out there, you take pictures and do the interview, and
Speaker 1: we can talk to those guys and try to figure
Speaker 1: out what this is something that Alex and James are
Speaker 1: doing right now because Reggie right, don't want international interpool proof,
Speaker 1: not about any criminal actor, because not every gang member
Speaker 1: is pushing Nipsey Hustle six crip. He was pushing rap
Speaker 1: t shirts marathonus. So this is what we need to do.
Speaker 1: We need we need to have gangs in the next
Speaker 1: paperwork here? Why why why are you here? They got
Speaker 1: paperwork on you. You know, to a certain extent, you're
Speaker 1: always gonna stick to the g code. But that don't
Speaker 1: mean that we can't take gangs in another direction exactly.
Speaker 1: You know he was, he was then y'all read the
Speaker 1: New York Times yesterday. What did they to say? What
Speaker 1: they were about the victims? They wanted that they want
Speaker 1: that strip mall they want because they had They were
Speaker 1: tierating that location, the Marathon Clothing store, and they told
Speaker 1: the landlord, y'all get rid of him. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: your property from you. But that that's the police. The
Speaker 1: police are gonna come and check whatever. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. They used that as an example. They did
Speaker 1: our motorcycle club like that. You know, I got a
Speaker 1: lot of blacks hanging out and they're kicking in their
Speaker 1: gay clothes. But they consider you a nuisance. So they
Speaker 1: go to the city. You know, here you go this
Speaker 1: little cat doing that. You might as want shut every month.
Speaker 1: Everything that it was come on over asessive. It was
Speaker 1: an assessive of gang activity going on at that strip mall.
Speaker 1: I'm just responding to the man thing that Nipsey was
Speaker 1: an angel and no one called everybody change. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying was taking his thing to a different level, his
Speaker 1: thing in another direction. And that's why I said, get
Speaker 1: at those guys and see what they actually really wanted.
Speaker 1: They knew what they was. They were having assault victims,
Speaker 1: and they were at the point where they were trying
Speaker 1: to evict the man, and he said, okay, never mind,
Speaker 1: let me get some investors. Landlord, don't evict me. I
Speaker 1: want to buy the place from you. So what's wrong
Speaker 1: with that? Nothing? But then they was about to take
Speaker 1: it from him. No, I think Nipsey really represents what
Speaker 1: every gang should have. Every gang needs a Nipsey hustle,
Speaker 1: Every gang needs an investor, every gang needs someone that's
Speaker 1: on a business level. And I truly believe that because
Speaker 1: you're never gonna get rid of gangs Reggie. We've had
Speaker 1: gangs in American after. This is all about what you
Speaker 1: do with it, exactly, And obviously we thought he was
Speaker 1: doing one thing with it, when it's coming out that
Speaker 1: he wasn't. I don't think it was tolerating another culture.
Speaker 1: The problem is he can't control everyone in the circle,
Speaker 1: and we can't blame him for what he did. The
Speaker 1: guys do outside to give him a location to cultivate that. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's the starting point. And as as he would have evolved,
Speaker 1: he was only what thirty three years old? Ask you,
Speaker 1: where's the starting point at? Man? If he didn't start there,
Speaker 1: where's the starting point? We're just going about where we've
Speaker 1: been hearing and stuff like that on YouTube and all
Speaker 1: of that. I'm just telling you what. The report just
Speaker 1: came out in the New York Times. New York Times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe the report. Have you read the New York
Speaker 1: Times report? I don't. I don't read exactly. That's what
Speaker 1: I thought. I don't do that. That type of stuff.
Speaker 1: I ain't got chopped. But to listen to what they
Speaker 1: put in there, whatever they write down, it's not believable.
Speaker 1: Everything is not believable. Everything. Yeah, everything I read the article.
Speaker 1: And actually the guy that wrote the article was on
Speaker 1: l A radio today and he actually said that he
Speaker 1: had some mixed feelings about Nipsey. He said, yeah, Nipsey
Speaker 1: was doing some good things, but yeah, they wanted to
Speaker 1: take this this prop property. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: they would have been successful at doing that. I don't
Speaker 1: think the abatement, but it was this double standard to
Speaker 1: me where they were about to meet with him and
Speaker 1: was promoting real big how they was about to have
Speaker 1: this big meeting with him. Why another branch of the
Speaker 1: department was investigating even was trying to take this property.
Speaker 1: I just thought that to be interesting. But I think
Speaker 1: we should look at gangs in the future as entities
Speaker 1: that could expand and entrepreneurial pursuits. Wouldn't it be great
Speaker 1: to have a group of guys in Madrid, Spain that
Speaker 1: will help you distribute T shirts and maybe print them
Speaker 1: for you or be your European distributor. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of things that that having satellite identities throughout
Speaker 1: the world can do. They have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: criminal activity exactly. If you can get that, if that's
Speaker 1: what they want, well that's where you gotta start. That
Speaker 1: you gotta start with the young kids. Man, if you
Speaker 1: just say for answers, if you had a whole lot
Speaker 1: of these guys with the same mentality as Nipsey, and
Speaker 1: you're going in the in the neighborhood and you're grabbing
Speaker 1: the kids and you're teaching these kids some type of skills,
Speaker 1: going to places like Spain, Madrid and and teaching them this,
Speaker 1: then you you if you if you get that point yourself.
Speaker 1: But we're not even doing it in our backyard. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go across this. I'm just saying I started here
Speaker 1: and then I go there, and it has to be
Speaker 1: done somewhere. If it don't, then everybody steal sitting on
Speaker 1: the same old shan your backyard before you're gonna try
Speaker 1: to clean up somebody else backyard. Well, I think Reggie,
Speaker 1: you you have this belief because we're in l A.
Speaker 1: Compton watch that gangs are always going to be involved
Speaker 1: in some conflict and some negative activity. But I went
Speaker 1: to Houston and interviewed gangs that have l a names
Speaker 1: and them dudes ain't even banging, They just chilling. And
Speaker 1: I get criticized for interviewing these guys. They say those
Speaker 1: aren't real gangsters. They're not They're not putting in work,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why do you have to be putting
Speaker 1: in work in order to have this identity? These guys
Speaker 1: in Houston, they love claiming whatever they want to be.
Speaker 1: Let's say ma par Rous in Houston, but they're not
Speaker 1: about banging on each other. It might not be Barbanian,
Speaker 1: but they're expecting somebody from the ma par rule in
Speaker 1: Confuta to be bringing some pills, some weed, some drugs
Speaker 1: and not at all criminals. Now let me that's what
Speaker 1: it does. I'm on the diving right now for that.
Speaker 1: From from some great street nigga to some great niggas
Speaker 1: and Memphis you put in the game goes, well, I
Speaker 1: know what's going on, and I can try to play
Speaker 1: and I act like it and put it a halo
Speaker 1: over this yet, but that ain't what it is. I
Speaker 1: know what's going on too. I travel to all these cities.
Speaker 1: You know, I interviewed it, and they're gonna give you
Speaker 1: their version or what they're trying to propetray at that time.
Speaker 1: But that ain't what that that that that thing is about, James, No,
Speaker 1: we gotta factor that the area I grew up in
Speaker 1: I'm not a member of the mahapae rule in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: You don't have in New Jersey. Detroit, Kansas City and
Speaker 1: and the ones I'm talking about in Detroit ain't know
Speaker 1: no game. But wait a minute, I'm trying to change.
Speaker 1: You're talking about from New Jersey. I mean that's in Detroit.
Speaker 1: Who I'm talking about, Brian Calvin BC. Are you're talking
Speaker 1: about Biggie. No, I didn't even know Biggie was in Detroit.
Speaker 1: Big you talk about you an't talk about? Okay, thank you? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean, but but no, But I
Speaker 1: think Reggie, you're right. There are some of these gangs
Speaker 1: and other cities in the US that are on that
Speaker 1: gang banging tip. What But you just made me mad
Speaker 1: because every every gang banger ain't know I waited. I
Speaker 1: ain't said that. I ain't never said that. I ain't
Speaker 1: never said that. I ain't said they're not waste of ship.
Speaker 1: I said that, But I'm saying about that. There's no
Speaker 1: hope for it. I noticed. I've been in, and I'm
Speaker 1: in and and and there's hope. Everybody. Everybody got a chance,
Speaker 1: everybody got over, there's a way out. Everybody everybody got
Speaker 1: a way out. But I'm saying, before we're talking about
Speaker 1: going up Spain and teaching that one way, we gotta
Speaker 1: do it. Do it over here and Compton before we
Speaker 1: were talking about branching out that someone. The main thing
Speaker 1: we have to do, man, is get our mind out
Speaker 1: of that out to get it and then stay. We
Speaker 1: can help each other instead of bashing each other on
Speaker 1: every topic comes up about being black. Feel me, we
Speaker 1: gotta stop beating each other down, like like we just
Speaker 1: we're not gonna get nowhere because we can't get in
Speaker 1: nowhere because it failed for me. Just because it failed
Speaker 1: for me, I can fix it. Everybody got time, and
Speaker 1: it got a chance and a choice, And we don't
Speaker 1: have to stay stuck on beating each other down and
Speaker 1: and and matching each other when one try to climb.
Speaker 1: I've been to kill a sneaking because he ain't looking
Speaker 1: out for me. That's the ship we gotta get away from.
Speaker 1: If we get away from that and start helping each other. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we gotta help each other get to
Speaker 1: the point. That's the topic. We're talking about. Taking these
Speaker 1: kids and getting putting them to Now we gut them
Speaker 1: to a different hit you up and saying that you
Speaker 1: they want you to come up there and opening up
Speaker 1: a fact went from that after after you explained your situation,
Speaker 1: and then you tell about what what what the networks doing,
Speaker 1: what the game networks are doing. But that's not the
Speaker 1: case in all instances throughout the country. So the guys
Speaker 1: in here to where did they claim they got? There's
Speaker 1: at least ten one of them is Fortray gangster crips.
Speaker 1: And what are they doing doing bike bike toy giveaways.
Speaker 1: They're rapping, They're going to the clubs. They're hanging out
Speaker 1: there doing regular regular things that late teams, early twenties
Speaker 1: guys do. And they're fascinated with l A gang culture.
Speaker 1: And they and they claiming this and and and have
Speaker 1: no other connection. And the l A dudes, it ain't
Speaker 1: the dude that came from l A that came out
Speaker 1: there and set them up. They just know a guy
Speaker 1: did a guy did go out there and created that identity.
Speaker 1: A bunch of these other Houston dudes follow them and
Speaker 1: it exists there. Now are they get And here's an
Speaker 1: interesting thing? And they called Hill big homie. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: in l A there there are alliances and rivalries. For example,
Speaker 1: the sixties and the eight Trades don't get along, right,
Speaker 1: or Bloods and Crypts don't get along, or specific gangs
Speaker 1: like let's say the Five Dudes Broadways and and the
Speaker 1: Four Trade Gangsters don't get along. When you go to Houston,
Speaker 1: you see the five Dudes Broadway and the four Trade
Speaker 1: gangster chilling one or two guys that went out there.
Speaker 1: They commuted out there, but their brothers they've been killed
Speaker 1: like like that. They have different history, exactly different to
Speaker 1: their history. And all of that was done quick. Now
Speaker 1: stop because people start realizing, Oh, that's Reggie, right, the
Speaker 1: one that it has something to do with my brother
Speaker 1: getting killed. That's that's James. That that I've been talking about, MoMA,
Speaker 1: but not need two truths did not last because all
Speaker 1: they did is had conversation. And with that conversation, all
Speaker 1: they did is drinking. Party. Ain't nobody gonna get nothing
Speaker 1: right if all you're doing is drinking and partying. But
Speaker 1: the main reason, no conversation and no way to fix.
Speaker 1: But but that's and it came right back because of drinking.
Speaker 1: I did an interview with Chris Blanchard, and I told
Speaker 1: him it wouldn't gonna work because all these dudes is partying.
Speaker 1: They're not thinking about trying to have some that was
Speaker 1: trying to do stuff just like you have some guys.
Speaker 1: I was trying to do something. You need they unify
Speaker 1: CC writer from that, right, And what did that it
Speaker 1: that didn't understand my point that they tried. They it
Speaker 1: wasn't drinking when they was that comfet high school had
Speaker 1: I didn't say I didn't go to the game, mean,
Speaker 1: so I don't know that. I wouldn't know what the
Speaker 1: video tape of it. What I'm saying is the time, Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand, so I know what was going on. It
Speaker 1: wasn't no drinking and smoking and stuff going on. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what I'm saying to you is while those
Speaker 1: cats and everybody going to different neighborhoods and hanging out
Speaker 1: and Bloods over here kicking it with the Crypts, everybody
Speaker 1: were drinking. What comes with drinking attitude. Nobody is sitting
Speaker 1: back with the with the right state of mind saying, man,
Speaker 1: we need to fix this. And this is how nobody
Speaker 1: had a plan. So without a plan, you can't fix nothing.
Speaker 1: So if everybody step up. Now I ain't talking about
Speaker 1: out of the out of the UH ninety two rids,
Speaker 1: they formed c C rodders. Is that an accomplishment? No,
Speaker 1: you just you just open you said, this is what happened,
Speaker 1: and this is why it didn't work. And I just
Speaker 1: do an example of they wasn't just drinking and all
Speaker 1: of that. They tried it. They just started realizing who
Speaker 1: who was and they got mad at each other and
Speaker 1: they started going back at each other that it didn't work.
Speaker 1: It didn't last. Um, yeah, but it's not always gonna
Speaker 1: work the very first time. It's a great first step
Speaker 1: and it actually laid the foundation for all the gang
Speaker 1: intervention programs and all the o g s now that
Speaker 1: are working for GRID Gang Reduction youth development program They
Speaker 1: don't the young game and don't respect none of them.
Speaker 1: And they call them snitches, that's fine. They called him wrap,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But they're still in the hood. The ogs
Speaker 1: are still in the hood. They don't respect them. They
Speaker 1: tell him get away from me, and he works for
Speaker 1: the police. Well, I don't think all of them getting
Speaker 1: that back. There's there's a there's a GRID GRID representative
Speaker 1: from at least gangs in l A right, and they're
Speaker 1: part of softball leagues, And it's the movement, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a beginning of a movement. And I think two
Speaker 1: the Truth of ninety two was a good first step.
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't expect for how how long is
Speaker 1: it gonna take for for the Palestinians to start getting
Speaker 1: along with the Jews over there in the Middle East?
Speaker 1: How many times has a US president went over there
Speaker 1: to try to broke her peace? Do we do we
Speaker 1: give up? Do we just say never go again? You
Speaker 1: know they're each other. Yeah, but I mean you still
Speaker 1: got to continue the peace talks if that's really what
Speaker 1: you have in your heart. I don't say give up.
Speaker 1: I don't say let's just take a dump on what
Speaker 1: happened in ninety two. In fact, we saw the first
Speaker 1: dropping in gang crimes since since eighty four, So in
Speaker 1: almost ten years. First you four or five good months
Speaker 1: a nikkas just hanging out and drinking and partying, and
Speaker 1: calls and havocs in the area to the liquor stores
Speaker 1: and all of that that was around there, and a
Speaker 1: lot of other cities that wanted to do the same thing,
Speaker 1: called up people in Watts, called up at and saying hey,
Speaker 1: we want to try to emulate with you guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was a problem. I was working the law
Speaker 1: enforcement and it was a problem. What they'll do is
Speaker 1: just hanging out and know that they was taking over streets,
Speaker 1: blocking people couldn't go to work, the good people, the
Speaker 1: working people couldn't even get them go to work out
Speaker 1: hanging out the departments and all of that until five
Speaker 1: six in the morning, drinking and all of it, and
Speaker 1: blocking the people cars in and all of that, and
Speaker 1: they couldn't even leave. They couldn't even go anywhere. It
Speaker 1: was a problem. And that's that's something that should be
Speaker 1: identified and fixed for future discussions. I mean, that's not
Speaker 1: a major thing, but yeah, we gotta figure out, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: don't don't fill up, don't put all your cars over here.
Speaker 1: Walking down the street on his way to work and
Speaker 1: getting jumped and beat beating out the debt. But to
Speaker 1: have bounty hunters, p J. Watts, grape streets, Hassie in
Speaker 1: the village all together at the table, plus all the
Speaker 1: other surrounding sets, that was monumental. That's that's a good start.
Speaker 1: But you gotta continue doing what you set out to do.
Speaker 1: You can't stop trying to find peace in a way
Speaker 1: that to connect with the homies. Because everybody know you're
Speaker 1: tired and you ain't got no money, and you're drinking
Speaker 1: and getting high today, you're gonna resort back to the
Speaker 1: same ship. You're gonna go right back to the same
Speaker 1: old ship. So how do we incorporate getting programs and
Speaker 1: shipped to healthy youngsters and teach them something other than
Speaker 1: what they're doing now. And if you if I learned
Speaker 1: a skill the craft that pay me and I'm only
Speaker 1: fourteen years old and I can make money, I see
Speaker 1: something different. I see something different. So these older guys,
Speaker 1: these guys that that's making money in their neighborhood, should
Speaker 1: invest in some type of facility to no trade centers
Speaker 1: out there, no no no trade tech schools and stuff
Speaker 1: like that out there. They might be in the wrong
Speaker 1: place though where they over there. And you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta make something, you gotta have something news. But if
Speaker 1: you take off that and put on a uniform, people
Speaker 1: probably pretty much won't know where you're from and what
Speaker 1: you're about. You know, I don't think it's hard. I
Speaker 1: suel have got my grandfather. Every everybody on eighty one
Speaker 1: on that block knew how to do breaks, knew how
Speaker 1: to do breaks, uh, dry wall, all of that. My
Speaker 1: uncle's still on his job, the same job my grandfather
Speaker 1: gave him fifty years. Fifty years. That's good from learning
Speaker 1: a trade. Yeah, working at Tiger I mean, uh not
Speaker 1: Taguards still, but Albert and Albert. But they wanted to
Speaker 1: do it. And it's year old young men working at
Speaker 1: pep boys now. But what did they do. They went
Speaker 1: to the trade schools. They took advantage of the programs
Speaker 1: is out there. And I munderstanding. We we we um
Speaker 1: give people like a pass for not wanting to go
Speaker 1: and do the trade centers or or the trade schools
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I said, there, we're so stuck in.
Speaker 1: I ain't working for nine fifty a job as a job,
Speaker 1: you work your way up. This is what we ain't understanding,
Speaker 1: because the homies are you're working for man, Go get
Speaker 1: your job, work, learn something, and the next time you
Speaker 1: see me, I'll have something. We don't want to do that. Uh.
Speaker 1: We too proud to pick up cans and and turn
Speaker 1: it in. We're too proud to We'll get at at
Speaker 1: at cars, juniors. You ain't gonna see no black man
Speaker 1: the cars juniors. I ain't gonna do that. But how
Speaker 1: do you get what you want if you don't start
Speaker 1: from the bottom. And this is what we gotta understand.
Speaker 1: So let's practice and preach that instead of saying fuck it.
Speaker 1: So you're down to go to Madrid. I'm down to
Speaker 1: go anywhere where I can help. But that's my whole
Speaker 1: thing right now. It's just man, I'm gonna speak my
Speaker 1: mind and I'm gonna be honest. All right. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna reach out to Paolo and tell him to
Speaker 1: fly us out there because I want to come. I
Speaker 1: want to go. I'm sure Reggie won't. I can't go.
Speaker 1: Reggie can't think that would be a good thing, man,
Speaker 1: a good thing. Go to Madrid and talk to the
Speaker 1: youngsters over there, and well, you see, you don't want
Speaker 1: from kids to a guy that hits you up on
Speaker 1: the internet. He never said to come and help. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: let me let me finish it. He says, Um, if
Speaker 1: we wanted to start a mob par rou chapter Madrid,
Speaker 1: could you travel here to help us establish it? What
Speaker 1: is about kids? I'm sure, I'm sure he's a youngster.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a youngster. When you think this guy
Speaker 1: is fifty years old? Why can't this be a male club?
Speaker 1: I gotta be my part. Why you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what what I have in store for him. I
Speaker 1: know where you check us out. But now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm tuning you out. Man. You O G Jameson from
Speaker 1: MA from Ma Paru. I thought you was coming out
Speaker 1: here to teach me how to do You out here
Speaker 1: coming out here talking about peace of love, and then
Speaker 1: we had never seen each other. No more, I'm on
Speaker 1: the flame. I'm almost certain being interested in no sort
Speaker 1: of criminal organization at all. I mean, I've I've met
Speaker 1: so many of these dudes around the country. Um, some
Speaker 1: of them are, some of them want to want to learn.
Speaker 1: One of this is somebody I've been hearing about and
Speaker 1: doing this. I want to know, come help us for
Speaker 1: I'm not here to promote. You tell them that, but
Speaker 1: think about it. The people who are on that level,
Speaker 1: then they may strip you down, rob you. The ones
Speaker 1: I want to slang those put on that level. You
Speaker 1: think they're gonna send me a d M saying established
Speaker 1: us from New Jersey though, huh? You just talking about
Speaker 1: the Nicks from Houston. They do right, here, they only
Speaker 1: thousands of the majority of started new champions. Is the
Speaker 1: guys that the town. It's a dude that came from
Speaker 1: l a man, we did it from San Bernardino, right, yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: Well I don't think every all these guys and all
Speaker 1: these networks are involved in in nefarious activities. I think
Speaker 1: some of them just are in there exactuated with Los Angeles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the mentality of the dudes that they if they've
Speaker 1: been listening to James. Now, if they've been listening to
Speaker 1: James as Paolo has been doing, he understands what his
Speaker 1: mentality is. Hopefully this guy James said, call them find
Speaker 1: out and so we may even be all James actually
Speaker 1: do is called because and if he's don't know, I
Speaker 1: want to be a fashion of the mob part rule
Speaker 1: and this then then from that, but why to James
Speaker 1: or something like that, because he's because to the Gangster
Speaker 1: Chronicles and it's his favorite podcast. Go ahead, James, what
Speaker 1: other mab partugi gonna act that of exactly? That's my point,
Speaker 1: you don't know, but one point, and why I want
Speaker 1: to be like him. I want to be like and
Speaker 1: that's my whole thing. And that's what I'm not promoting
Speaker 1: you have I know that. I'm just saying, well, hisn't
Speaker 1: it you're attending his attend is two different things. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't I don't think this. We don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't know if he's d m in me the
Speaker 1: way he is from Madrid, a city that has a
Speaker 1: very low crime rate, very low gang um presence. What
Speaker 1: what do you think he want to drying? So here's
Speaker 1: the thing. A lot of guys throughout the world copy
Speaker 1: l a culture, but they're not connected to no one
Speaker 1: from those neighborhoods. So now to be officialized or to
Speaker 1: be legitimate, you have to be connected to someone that's
Speaker 1: from that community. So he wants to be able to
Speaker 1: say I'm a ma piru, I'm a real ma paru
Speaker 1: because James McDonald came here. I agree, I believe that's why.
Speaker 1: I mean, he don't really need James create piru out there.
Speaker 1: And if they basically the same way is when I
Speaker 1: was in the motorcycle club, how would gather chapters? You know,
Speaker 1: people call us and hit us own Facebook or Internet
Speaker 1: or whatever or going through the chosen through website and
Speaker 1: what they do is acts. Can they be members of
Speaker 1: Chosen Few. We didn't have some cats that that are
Speaker 1: Chosen Few, but they wear different patches that came to
Speaker 1: us and converted to our patch. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: put on the red patch of post to the white
Speaker 1: and blue. So what they're saying is the same thing
Speaker 1: we had chosen. You got over fifty chapters now that
Speaker 1: that that that I just found out. So you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of people all over this place that the
Speaker 1: farthest I think is the Philippines. And you've got people
Speaker 1: all over these places want to be a part of
Speaker 1: what they doesn't serve it on the internet and say, damn,
Speaker 1: they've been here sixty years and they take black s,
Speaker 1: white Mexicans and everybody, and they still going and and
Speaker 1: and then you have it's the same thing. Actually it's
Speaker 1: the same kind of the same thing, and it's the
Speaker 1: exact same kind they want to be a part of
Speaker 1: my pu. Now y'all comparing Ma Paru to uh, I'm
Speaker 1: not compared you like you don't be understanding how many
Speaker 1: I'm saying the same. I'm saying that you wanted to
Speaker 1: listen to what what what I'd be responding too. I'm
Speaker 1: responding to what Alex just said, the same same concept
Speaker 1: it is, but just and how many people call Chosen
Speaker 1: Few a gang. How many called Chosen Fewer criminal organizations
Speaker 1: the club? But they also have outlaws put put on
Speaker 1: their pets as well, you know what, I allow it, okay,
Speaker 1: but not all Chosen fuels out there involving. And then
Speaker 1: that's my point. But ma par rules not my mom
Speaker 1: par rouses. I'm looking at one right now. He don't
Speaker 1: claim but because he had to, he does own that
Speaker 1: because he don't want to be associated to what the
Speaker 1: ma par rous still stands for. But he still he
Speaker 1: does owned it. In my view, they bad in him
Speaker 1: because he's fast. I'm not a part of that no more.
Speaker 1: I'm not about that no more. He's not about the
Speaker 1: bs that he won't even refer to himself as Mom Jane.
Speaker 1: I know I'm like this. I cannot contradict myself saying
Speaker 1: that I'm done with the situation and I'm not like
Speaker 1: some of these guys say they're not affiliated no more.
Speaker 1: But you still see him doing this and this and
Speaker 1: all of that us ship. I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: I'm solely trying to get rid of the name Mom
Speaker 1: James just so crazy. Yeah, I can't because everybody comes
Speaker 1: and I've been dealing with this for the longest. Uh
Speaker 1: in the in the supermarket, Mom, that's mom, James, and
Speaker 1: Uh at the beach and then and and to swap me.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been dealing with that and I gotta
Speaker 1: get away from it. But I refused to sit in
Speaker 1: and promote the mob, par Route mob, any anything else
Speaker 1: that that that's not associated with me. So nobody has
Speaker 1: to worry about this guy right here in the neighborhood
Speaker 1: hanging and doing this. If I do a pop up,
Speaker 1: I do a pop up in our bounds. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and know hanging and kicking and drinking
Speaker 1: and doing all that. I'm past that. I'm past that.
Speaker 1: I'm on something different. But if I can bring something
Speaker 1: different to Madrid, to the Philippines, to cats and watch
Speaker 1: and they want to sit down and listen to what
Speaker 1: I gotta say and how it should be, man, let's roll,
Speaker 1: Let's do it. That's what I'm talking because the want,
Speaker 1: if that's what they want. My Piru is a gang,
Speaker 1: but also my Paru is a community, and I'm not
Speaker 1: make a distinction between every every hood is a gang
Speaker 1: and a community. There's the guys that grew up there
Speaker 1: and we just rolled through there the other day. We
Speaker 1: rolled through the ma Paru community. He hung out wood
Speaker 1: would and walk and and they. But I don't think
Speaker 1: they're putting in the work. They ain't doing no shooting,
Speaker 1: but they they might be getting in no cars and nothing,
Speaker 1: but they ain't. They ain't disassociated from the hood. But
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. They haven't because they're not. They're
Speaker 1: just trying to. But these people were reaching out to
Speaker 1: him because they I don't think they understand that he
Speaker 1: has Well we're gonna find out. I'm gonna do some
Speaker 1: more research on Mr Powelo from Spain. But that concludes
Speaker 1: another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. I want to thank
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