1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Rixie 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Reight Jr. And Alex Tomanso on the digital Soapbuch Network 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: material witness on an aggregated Battery, I was a hang 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: gun and um they believe this might be in retaliation 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: to her testimony. Welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: My name is Alex Alonso from Street Gangs dot Com 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: a K street TV, where I interview O G Gang members, 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: former and current hip hop artists, authors, entertainers, and other influencers. 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: And I'm here with my two co hosts, Reggie Right 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: Junior and James McDonald. And make sure you check out 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Reggie Wright Jr. On Bomb First. That's b O MB 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: one st where he does a live show actually, and 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: that's weekly, right Reggie, every Tuesday, every Tuesday, you can 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: specific standard time. 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All right, So, 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. And I 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are listening on iTunes, So 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: if you're listening to iTunes, please leave us a rating 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: and a review so we can continue bringing you this 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: amazing show. You can rate us from one to five, 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: five being the best, and you could also suggest topics 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: and ideas of things you want to hear. And for 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: those who don't have iTunes, we're also on Google Play, Spotify, 33 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: and for those who are on the computer, laptop or desktop, 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: we're on radio dot com as well. All Right, so 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: let's take a few questions from some of our listeners, 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: because without the listeners, we wouldn't even be here. And 37 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: one of the first questions that comes up REDG, I 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: know you know about this. How did the Little Half 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Dead being the TUPAC shooter theory even begin? This was 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: also addressed in one of the A and E documentaries 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: where they interviewed a little half dead and he basically 42 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: was like, I had nothing to do with this, but 43 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: I heard that rumor throughout the year. So tell us 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: how that rumor got started. Yeah, what what what happened 45 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: was it was this crazy cycle due from that's in jail, uh, 46 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: from molestations and has a history of of psychosis or whatever. 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: Um that's in in in prison. And they wrote a 48 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: letter at his niece write a letter to this A 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: reporter from the Fox News uh who was hot in 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: l A by the name of Chris Blackford at the time. 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: My man Chris. So Chris got this letter. He received 52 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: a letter I don't know two thousand and ninety nine 53 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: or something like that, and UM, I was trying to 54 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: follow up on it, and they came up to a 55 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: dead in um situation. Uh. Madson request to them the 56 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, they said they had the murder weapon and 57 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: all of that and it never materialized. He uh, he 58 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: fouled it away in his files. You had the old 59 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: white man. Uh and this this obsessed police detective that 60 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: up and quit his job, uh six months before he 61 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: was eligible for retirement because he felt that the lap 62 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: D wasn't you know, Chief with our parts told him hey, 63 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: stop it. Stop wasting our resources and our money. Um 64 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: going down this lane. This is not accurate information and 65 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: he lost the name was Russell Pool eventually died art attacked. 66 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: Uh but he died, I mean he uh so he 67 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: uh take a lead and when Chris Blashford and met 68 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: with christ Rassler and Chris Blackford gave it to him. 69 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: And here's a lead that we we got some time ago. 70 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: I checked it out, but things didn't them fall where 71 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: they were supposed to fall to Russell Pool. Yeah, and 72 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: Russell Pool kind of believes the theory. He believes it. 73 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: But Russell Pool believe anything but but the truth. And 74 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: that's why he uh, you know, for a man to 75 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: quit their job, uh lose their retirement benefits there retirement 76 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: checking everything for the rest of their life six months 77 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: prior to being eligible to receive all of that, you 78 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: got to show the state of mind that he that 79 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: he was in basically obsessied with with the case. He 80 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: was obsessed for the case, then improving that his theory. 81 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: It's my way in no way, typical stubborn old man. 82 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: So there's you get this with this uh, this guy 83 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: that does documentary see that I did about four different 84 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: documentaries accusing me and shire Knight of of murder of 85 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: Tupac and Biggie. And now they got this new theory 86 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: and they want to change up on it because it's 87 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: all about making some money and so this is their 88 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: new theory and they wouldn't full blast with it. They 89 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: uh the letter that accuses uh little health that been 90 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: involved with myself and shook Knight ex wife Sharia Knight 91 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: for taking over the company need to uh for our 92 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: benefit and little half they had been about because he 93 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: was ad because Tupac stold the song Brenda got a baby, um, 94 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: which is impossible top years old at the time. The 95 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: timeline that makes no sense. I mean, we didn't have 96 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: people that show that was in the studio with with 97 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: uh what Tupac when he wrote Brenda got a baby 98 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: and all of that. That's a this is crazy. Little 99 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: Half there was like, this is crazy and so this 100 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: is how that they we got out there. Bridge j 101 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Me ask you something, how do you feel that with 102 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: these people making all these allegations against you and constantly 103 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: keep using your name and well, let's say putting your 104 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: name and in this situation, you know, like on our 105 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: last episode, last week, I kind of got a little 106 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: test because um and I listened back to it, and 107 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: I apologize to you because maybe I got a little 108 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: sense of them. I don't like using the word since then, 109 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: I that I got a little sense of that. Okay 110 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: with about you forgot already. It's only been a week 111 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: and you forgot. But anyway, Um, like I said, I 112 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: don't care about when people accused me of being involved 113 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: in the the the murder of Biggie Small, even though 114 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: it's not true, it doesn't bother me. But toothpox, your 115 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: core was somebody that I was with there and there 116 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: every day of the eleven months that he was you know, 117 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: with death row, somebody that I was in charge of 118 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: of of his his security, and he you know, became 119 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: our friend. We were somebody were hanging out with traveling 120 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: strip parties, all types of things with a friend. And 121 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: so to be accused of um being involved in the 122 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: murder of him, it hurts. It bothers me to the core, 123 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: so especially by people that had nothing to do with 124 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: his life. I didn't even know who a Tupac's your 125 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: core was in. That's said, oh in two thousand's this 126 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: is the one way I can benefit and make some money. 127 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: Let me slander this man's name. Let me let me 128 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: put this out. Let's see what the dumb people think. 129 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: Did you ever consider any lawsuits against people who actually 130 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: accuse you of or linking you to the murder of 131 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Tupac when the evidence is actually in your favor that 132 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: you had nothing to do with it. Yeah, but unfortunately 133 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: all the motherfucker's are broke this accusing you of this. 134 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: They're called judgment proof. But are they linked to any 135 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: companies or businesses when they made these allegations. Sure you 136 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: can go out there, but the they probably um indemnified. 137 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: Like for example, Chris Blackford, nobody big, None of these 138 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: big people did. Bastard never accused. I wish Fox News 139 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: whatever I was gonna say News. He said, hey, here's 140 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: a letter I got to investigator. Christian is a good cat. Yeah, 141 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: he's cool. I've been years and then I brought you. 142 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: I met him in five christ has reached out to 143 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: meet over time. I brought um. You know, I brought 144 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: Shook down a couple of times to do interviews with 145 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: Christian and stuff. So yeah, he was a true investigative journalist. 146 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: And they don't really have them anymore. It all went 147 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: not like him at all, and they weren't given the 148 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: budget to how many people got that budgets. Now the 149 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: budgets are going more towards like the rumor news as 150 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: opposed to the investigative journalism that Chris Blackford used to do. 151 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that's a crazy I mean 152 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: to go to sleep with all these people thinking, Yeah, 153 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: it didn't follow me at first. It didn't start following 154 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: me until I had a I have an eighteen year 155 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: old son and his name is Reginald Right the third, 156 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: and um when his name, when you know, his started 157 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: getting linked and he's starting to read and understand and 158 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: listening to some of the stuff out here, and you 159 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: were like, you know, you had kept them insulated from 160 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: all of that all their lives, and now they're a 161 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: little older and their friends and stuff like that starting 162 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: to hear about exactly. So, if Russell Pool really believed 163 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: in this little half dead Reggie Wright should read the theory, 164 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: what was his view on Orlando Anderson? Then um, they 165 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: believe it was all the fake, it's all the stunt, 166 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: and that they were policies. Their whole theory is Um, 167 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: it was originally shocked. He since when to try to apologize? 168 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: What's your before he died? A matter of fact, why 169 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: he was He was in the sheriff department when he died, 170 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: trying to broke her a deal for sharing to get 171 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: out of out of custody, uh and say, hey, she 172 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: was willing to say this and say that if y'all, 173 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: if y'all willing to uh let him go, which most 174 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: people think it was the cooperation on the murder of Tupac, 175 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: which it really was the cooperation or identifying the person 176 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: who who shot him inside the One Oaks club. That's 177 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: what most people don't know. But yeah, so Russell Pool 178 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: changed his theory as well. All right, let's go get 179 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: onto it. Uh. The next question, which is semi related 180 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Gaines l A p D Officer Kevin Gaines, who 181 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: was later killed by Frank liga Um Solo Dolo from 182 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Instagram wants to know, was l A p D Officer 183 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Gaines at the MGM hotel the same night where 184 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: all of this happened. When Pot got killed later that night. 185 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: The only thing I can ever attest to is by 186 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: his girlfriend at the time, which was ext wife. Uh. 187 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Our extrange wife at the time. Sarita, Uh, she said 188 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: she was. He was with her. Um, why would he 189 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: be at d MGM with us. We're not white folks. 190 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: White folks only do that bullshit where they fattened eyes 191 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: and be cool with their with somebody who's sucking on 192 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: their work's wife. We don't get down like that. So then, yeah, 193 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: you're saying it makes no sense for Sharita sugs X 194 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: to be in Vegas with Kevin Gaines. Well that or 195 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying we will allow the lady that's have an affair, 196 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy that's having an affair with shows 197 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: wife to be hanging out with us. But if you're strange, 198 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter, does it. Okay, I'm asking I 199 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: guess you're asking white. Didn't you what I mean? That 200 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: was racist? I'm asking a legitimate question. If you were strange, 201 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: that means I don't really care about you as a wife, 202 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: and I don't care about you as I want to 203 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: hang out with you taking you to a prize fight. 204 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: This question wasn't about hanging out. It just says was 205 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Gaines there? And then because they are saying that 206 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: they are there with us, That's the only reason they 207 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: would care that he where's he at because they want 208 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: to know if he was with us at the time. 209 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: Basically yes, no, I mean I told you we know 210 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: he went with death Roll. Well then if he was 211 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: there on some other mission, how the hell would I 212 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: know if he wasn't with us. I wasn't there, but 213 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: he I was out there. I knew who was all 214 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: the players who was there, and I was at Club 215 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: six six to getting that prepared. But the reason for 216 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: the question is not where he's at, what was he doing? 217 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: I want to know if he was having a couple 218 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: of coffee at Starbucks. You know. The question is because 219 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: I want to know if he was out there with y'all, 220 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: does he have anything to do with Because that goes 221 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: back to what I said earlier, how they want to 222 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: have the cops involved in the murder of Tupac and 223 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: Big Well. I think it's a fair question considering when 224 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: Kevin Games was killed by Frank Liga, he was sitting 225 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 1: in a car register or to either Suge Night or 226 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: death row records. He was sitting in the car that 227 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: was registered to UH death row records because he was 228 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: fucking to Night wife. Yes, that's why everyone knew that. 229 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: We didn't. You guys didn't know that. We didn't know that. 230 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: But they were already estranged. They were strange. They weren't together, 231 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm sorry. Sugar already had moved on 232 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: in his relationship. He had babies and stuff all that, 233 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: but he still was cool with his a strange wife 234 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: as well. That's a that's a contradiction. If you're cool, 235 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: then you're not estranged. For um, well they had business. 236 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: Well okay, well they wasn't a strange then. They weren't 237 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: living together, sleeping together, but they had business. She was 238 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: she was managing most of his artists. I don't know 239 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: what to say, man, Yeah, I mean, I have questions. 240 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: But they had a relationship where he didn't pretty much 241 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: care what she was doing, and obviously she didn't care 242 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: what you were doing. But they were divorce and they 243 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: had business. He was managing Snoop Dogg, who was the 244 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: biggest artist on his label. Okay, the bottom line is, 245 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: you don't nobody knew if if Kevin Gaines was there. 246 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: We know what I said earlier by stertas testimony, They 247 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: went at home in North Hollywood at their house Yeah, sure, 248 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't there. I was just trying to tell you 249 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: why the man asked the question. If I wouldn't have 250 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: said no, you ain't not getting him with justice justifying, 251 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: I could have easily said no, he wasn't there. Well. 252 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: I think that Kevin Gang story is fascinating. Uh, And 253 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things we don't know 254 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: about Kevin Gaines. Um, what what do you mean he 255 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: was having an unfair with the man's ex wife. Yeah, 256 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: but he was also linked to other l a p 257 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: D officers that got caught up in the Rampart scandal 258 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with us. That's why it 259 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: comes back to us because of that that relationship. I'm 260 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: just saying, there's a handful of black officers that went 261 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: through the Rampart division or they were friends because you 262 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: knew the ramp are officers now and he's dirty. No, 263 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Kevin Games was actually a dirty cop. 264 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: And I never heard his name mentioned in there. But 265 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: you just made the correlation because I'm making the correlation 266 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: because he knew them. Just because you know David mckor 267 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: you know Raphael Perez doesn't mean you're you're dirty and 268 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know if evidence that he knew them 269 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: all all. He was killed at the intersection in the 270 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: valley by another lp D officer, Frank Liga, and that 271 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: happens road rage. I tried to tell you earlier, it's 272 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: ten thousand police officers. Every cop don't know each other. 273 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: I know the outside world think they all know each other. 274 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I don't know a thousand people in 275 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: my life. I don't know all all ten I wouldn't 276 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: know all ten thousand cops if I was a cop 277 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: in the l A p D. I wasn't. I knew 278 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: all the two hundred that worked with me at Compton 279 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: p D. But I didn't they. I'm telling you l 280 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: A p D. All of them don't know all ten 281 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: thousand officers. That pony officers. They all probably know is 282 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: is the brass, the chief and all of that. They 283 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: all know him, but they don't know each other. The 284 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: other divisions and stuff. But in that bizarre situation where 285 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: two cops end up in a road rade incident and 286 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: Frank Liga ends up killing Kevin Gaines, he says that 287 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Gaines pulled his weapon out, but Kevin Gaines never 288 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: got he never got to bus, and some people say 289 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: if Kevin Gaines pulled out his trap, he should have 290 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: got at least one off. He didn't get nothing off, 291 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: So there's some unanswered questions about that interaction. Oh, we 292 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: definitely believe that. I mean, this is the officer that 293 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: bragged about it a few years ago that eventually had 294 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: got terminated for bragging about shooting this and he wished 295 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: it was more niggas in the car. Yeah, I heard 296 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: that audio. He didn't know he's being recorded by and 297 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: was being recorded by another officer in the room that 298 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: was his friend. Yeah, but this white dude is that 299 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: comfortable enough to say this in the room full of 300 00:17:53,600 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: officers and some black officers at a training session. Don't 301 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: you think something shady happened that day between Frank Lager 302 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: and Kevin Gaines or you think it's just the typical 303 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: road rage. I think they were following him. I think 304 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: he was following him, and then Kevin realized that this 305 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: dude following him, and he confronted him and he got upset. 306 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: If he was a good car what they followed him for? 307 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: They knew he was riding around and the Porsche he 308 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: was dressing and with for Sachi shirts. He had a 309 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: license plate on his porch that said fuck I A. 310 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: And he was no, no, no, not, it's okay, I 311 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: A something about it. He was disrespecting I a internal 312 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: fair deparmer, and he was having an affair with the 313 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: head of death row records wife and he was married 314 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: at the time himself. I believe I forget that situation. 315 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: I think so because a matter of fact, I think 316 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: in the settlement because they end up paying out. Uh, 317 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: the wife got some money, the kids got some money, 318 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: and they had to do because they didn't want to 319 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: bring it before the council. So they paid him eat 320 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: whatever that maximum was. They paid individuals um each. And 321 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: also Kevin Gaines, No, he wasn't married. He had a 322 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: lawsuit against I believe the sheriff department or another law 323 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: enforcement entity where he got a settlement years before, so 324 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: he actually challenged the system. He was it was probably 325 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: a rebel or something like that. But I also get 326 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: information that he was a cop cop that you know, 327 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: he wasn't for the drama or anything. But I don't 328 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: know that. Man. I never met him before in my life. 329 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: And my point is, and people always said, well, yeah, yeah, 330 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: he worked for y'all. He worked for you. Come on, 331 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: that's why I get mad and I make the how 332 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: would that make the guy was having a fair but 333 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: you said you didn't know, so you would you could 334 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: have theoretically hired and didn't know. Okay, well I didn't 335 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: know and I didn't have it. But that ain't what 336 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: people believe. People believe that the guy that was having 337 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: an affair with Sarita Night work for death for records 338 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: and Reggie Hardy, Well don't you think, oh, they could 339 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: have been could have been found out if it was investigated. 340 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: You know you're getting the check, if you're getting a 341 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: check on the death rod. Don't you think they can 342 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: go on that? It was not the right way. But 343 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: trust me, I turned over I turned over all of 344 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: that paperwork, all that information. Everybody knows that except who 345 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: conspirators old white man that Mike to make DVDs regarding 346 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: Reggie right, well, I want to emphasize that Kevin Gaines 347 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: has never been implicated in any rampart scandal because he 348 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: was not a cricket cop that we know of. They 349 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: never proved that, never proved that he did anything illegal 350 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: as an l A p D officer. He was a 351 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: guy that challenged the system and was the only thing 352 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: we know about that is he had a license plate 353 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 1: that was disrespecting internal affairs. Yeah, so sometimes I think 354 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Gaine gets a bad rap, but I think his 355 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: story is interesting and um no, this is what happened, 356 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: and this is why a lot of people are like 357 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: the link Lincoln to him. The officers that shot and 358 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: killed uh Kevin Gaines was Frank Liga. When Raphael Press 359 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: and now signed out the dope that they stole, Yeah, 360 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: guess who names they put on it. He put Franks 361 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: because he was mad because his boy got killed or whatever. 362 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: Who knows. I don't. I can't say that they were 363 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: friends because we don't know why. Well, yeah, you're right, 364 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: but I think, um there was a person that testified 365 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: that said that I know who I know that the 366 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: drugs got taken out because back then they didn't have 367 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: an accounting they didn't have an accounting system. Sir Raphael 368 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: Press walks in there, takes out with six key loads, 369 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: put Frank like hiss name as the one that took 370 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: checked it out, and then the lady said that they 371 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: take it and then they put bacon. Solda when they're 372 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: playing it back or whatever. So when they investigated, they 373 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: go ask the lady in the evidence room, like who 374 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: took out the cocaine? And she says it was just 375 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: a black guy that spoke Spanish. That's all I remember, 376 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: and that was too hard to figure out. Well, I 377 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: think he comped out to it. And that's my point. 378 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: If he comped out to all of this ship, laid 379 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: out other cops, laid on all these people, why wouldn't 380 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: he ever a cop out? Oh yeah, I work for 381 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: death Records. Oh yeah, I work for that cop that 382 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: worked the cop to p D. They have never mentioned 383 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: my name, but many people ever mentioned us together. It's 384 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: outside people, people that had nothing to do with l 385 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: A p D or or anything. Or one cop retire 386 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: called Russell Pool. And that's why Perora Partson was like, Okay, 387 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: allowed you to investigate this. There's nothing to it. Move on. 388 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, forget that. I quit all right bye. But 389 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: this is where all of this come on on the 390 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: internet from. It's from a situation like that. We'll imagine 391 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: this how many of the l A p D officers 392 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: that were linked to the ramparts scandal ever worked for 393 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: Right Way slash death row records matter. One, I only 394 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: had two lp D officers that ever worked for me, 395 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: and they investigated them. They knew who they were, Richard 396 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: McCauley and a guy by the name of David Love. 397 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: Only two the LPD cough ever worked for me. Now, 398 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: how often does that come up though, that these l 399 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: A p D officers from Rampart and these rogue officers 400 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: were also linked to you. For anyone that still believes 401 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: that death roll has something to do our Reggie right 402 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,479 Speaker 1: security has something to do with the murder of Biggie 403 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: Small or two Papa Well, No, no official law enforcements 404 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: believe that anymore. They know the real they have the 405 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, both cases has been solved in 406 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: their mind. They just can't prove it. All right, Let's 407 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: move on. Someone from Sweden wants to know where are 408 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: the no go in quotes no go zones uh in 409 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: Los Angeles County, which would be Long Beach, Compton Watts, 410 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Inglewood, Guardina. Let's start to James, what are 411 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: some of the most no go zones that you don't 412 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: want to go to? The projects? Uh, you don't want 413 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: to go downtown L A downtown. They did what they 414 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: gentrified it, even with all the homelessness. They got these 415 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: bars and clubs that go on Mr Park. Then you 416 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: know the mor Park wasn't actually not that bad that 417 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about gentification. But park, Now, I wouldn't. I 418 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't put the Mark M Park on my list of places. 419 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would say the Jungles Aka down from 420 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: it is. I would say stay away from don't don't 421 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: make it right, stay stay away from the Jays that night, 422 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: Stay away from the Nick project period. Stay away from 423 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: all four of the projects and watch at night. What 424 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: are the most sensitive areas in Compton Because on the 425 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: West side some of the neighborhoods and Compton are kind 426 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: of from Sweden. You're probably on the pill side. So 427 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: I will say, uh, stay away from the whole city. 428 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: The whole city. Wow, that's you just at night. You 429 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: just took a big dump on Compton Man and Asian 430 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: Brown is not gonna be happy about that. Asian Brown 431 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: to get over it. You need to fix the streets. 432 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: That's what you need to be worried about. But it's 433 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: true that their worst parts of Compton than other areas. 434 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: I'd say the west Side has less violence and homicides 435 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: in crime than the East Side does. Areas like Lantana, 436 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: Lantana Block, there were the swamp sorry where track news 437 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: at and being pale and not speakers in Spanish, and 438 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: stay your ass straight by the airport and stay on 439 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: the main rolls and keep going, all right, James, And 440 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: that's that night. You know, they can ride down Alameda 441 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: and willow Brook and all that coming from the Comfort 442 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: Courthouse because there's a lot of white folks who work 443 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: up the Comfort Courthouse, but they take their as straight 444 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: to the ninety one freeway. And that's what's suggested to 445 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: him in Hollywood, I meaning, uh, somewhere in Beverly Hills, 446 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: your bell ash somewhere. I don't like no parts of 447 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: l A. You go name a place in l ah No, 448 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: there's some there's some beautiful areas in l A. I 449 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: love the West Adams area. I love because you're okay 450 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: over there. We're talking about Sweden people. So you you 451 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: you suggest them going to heroes and Bills over there. 452 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: On Absolutely, there's there's all kind of white folks walking 453 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: their dogs around there, and that well, you said that 454 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: the gentification is going on over there right going on 455 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: the mirt Park right now. I would those white folks 456 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: that's over there living over there are different. Type of 457 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: white folks are different. A person from Sweden lost gonna 458 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: need direction and all of that. Come on, man, they 459 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: need to stay away from the mirf park. Less they 460 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: have some escorts to take them on the Hurls and Bills, 461 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: I will suggest they go to Hurls and Bills and 462 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: have a nice little sofa wells just fishing stuff now, 463 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: but go there. But I have some escorts with you. 464 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: How do your uber driver get out and go in 465 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: with I think the area where Harold and Bells is 466 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: that it's fine on Jefferson right off a Crunshaw. You 467 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: won't have any problem there if you're white walking around 468 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: walking around, yeah, walking around them. There's all kind of 469 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: white folks in that part of l A. I've seen 470 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: that they've been doing a lot. They got whole foods 471 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: can build up there. They've got stuff. But there's one 472 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: neighborhood in Inglewood. I gotta mention the bottom right off 473 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: of where the crunch On office right there's off ninety 474 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: nine and century. That's like the part of Inglewood. You 475 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: don't want to go to total projects on the bottom, 476 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: but they definitely a gentrifying all of Inglewood, and I 477 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: would say most of Inglewood is cool. Well, stay out 478 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: of the bottoms though. If you're in Inglewood, it's the 479 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: casino and in the football still let's go look at that. Yeah, 480 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: the casino, the Century Corridor, they got all the Costco 481 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: and bed bathroom beyond and red Lofter and Chili's. Uh, 482 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: they really revamped that whole area of Inglewood. Ingle is 483 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: actually really nice. But I rolled through the bottoms other 484 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: day and I was like, Wow, it's still griming over here. 485 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: It's still griming. That's a home in the Crunshawn Mafia. 486 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: Shout out to the Crunshaw office, the relatives. That was 487 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: my my at the relatives, Big yeah, that's be standing 488 00:28:54,280 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: for sucking bitches and James you said that at the Nikolsons. 489 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna add to that Imperial Courts and what's the 490 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: other one, Pebblos, the Pebblos. And then if you want 491 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: to talk about the Latino projects, you want to stay 492 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: out of Estrada Courts, Ramona Gardens, and again they'll be 493 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: able to go to the dispensaries if they don't go 494 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: over there. How you can find dispensers all over So, 495 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean l A is not that bad. We had 496 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: one of the lowest homicides counts last year and it 497 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: keeps on going down. And even Compton. Compton used to 498 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: average like murders a year, remember those years very well, Yeah, 499 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: and now they haven't what like thirty or forty ye years? 500 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: Hell know how many of years now? I don't know, 501 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: but it ain't that low. Oh, it's pretty low. That's 502 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: somebody looked that up. How many homicides the Compton have 503 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eighteen? Um, I know when it 504 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: was over a hundred. That was high for the city 505 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: of that size. The only reason we wasn't considered the 506 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: homicide copolt racles because we didn't have a hundred thousand. 507 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: It was just at like ninety. And when you got 508 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: you got once you had those, they only gave cities 509 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: over a hundred thousand. They are the only ones that 510 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: the f b I gave reports on. We always kept 511 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: the census down. So, um, do you remember the most 512 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: homicides that Compton had? I think it went up to 513 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: like one ten on one twenty a couple of years Yeah, 514 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: that was like, um, I was doing your crack air 515 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: days um in the mid nineties or something, and the 516 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: most homicides l A had in one year was like 517 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: a thousand, a little over a thousand. Now it's like 518 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: right under three hundred, and you know, it's weird. A 519 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: lot of people think that the crack cocaine epidemic contributed 520 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: to the highest homicide rate in Los Angeles, but let 521 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: me see if I have here now, it mainly had 522 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: burglaries and stuff like that. Look, the two highest years 523 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: for homicides in Los Angeles was actually and eighty pre 524 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 1: dates when the starting it was like eight it was starting, 525 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: but the rock then really hit hit like we're just 526 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: rocking cocaine up in nineteen eighty man, little just starting 527 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: maybe free basing, not not rock. We was how you 528 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: gonna champ? I think you got your day from so 529 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: we don't gotta say. Eighty three, eighty five, eighty six, seven, 530 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: y'all was big in it then. But then Nika was 531 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: smoking on SERM in eighties, seven, nine, and eighties. Yeah, 532 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: they were smoking Shane. Yeah, cocaine did the neighborhood there. 533 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: Red I just had someone look up the number of 534 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: homicides and Compton two thousand eighteen, twenty one homicides in 535 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: Compton two thousand eighteen, and the population is ninety seven 536 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: thousand according to that to that good, and it used 537 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: to be like probably down on county wide. Then oh, 538 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: it's absolutely downcount. But that of shows the dramatic drop 539 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: used to be around a hundred now it it was. 540 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: It was twenty one last year in jail. Yeah, but 541 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: every generation bird's new killers. Yeah, but they Yeah, so 542 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: I guess the three strike is working on No, I 543 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't give it to the right. And the Los Angeles 544 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: peak was eight with one thousand eight and then in 545 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: the year of the Riots one thousand ninety two, and 546 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: now l A is at like to ninety. So imagine 547 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: going from over a thousand murders a year now we're 548 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: at two ninety. But let's look at our parking reck 549 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: budgets and how many baseball fields and all of that 550 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: we have because we don't put all our resources and 551 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: our money into law enforcements and then took away from 552 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: all the park of r parker um wreck um programs. Yeah, 553 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: we need more parks and red programs. We need more 554 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: baseball programs. I was listening to someone said that Campanella 555 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: used to have the most incredible baseball program, and everyone's 556 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: over used to come there and play baseball. South Park 557 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: Ship because I was park at the best Jackie Robinson stadium. 558 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: I heard. I heard they had a good football program, 559 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: and I've never seen a football program in Jackie Robinson. 560 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: The football that was a great compl Okay, we had 561 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: football greater Compton and then one. I don't know nothing 562 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: about that. I didn't play all that stuff. You busy 563 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: worry about rocking up. You weren't playing any sports. Gang 564 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: banging even when you was ten eight nine, ten wasn't 565 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: gang banging. I was tanning up stuff. I know you 566 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: was knocking out school teachers over there, and I didn't 567 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: knock out or slapped or bust the nose. Okay, that's 568 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: pretty much kicked the school district. All right, let's move 569 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: on to another question here. Um, you know this is 570 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: this is really an interesting question. This is for you, James. 571 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: This comes from Spain. Someone from Spain. This is from Foulow. 572 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: It's from Foolow from Thing. If I wanted to start 573 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: a mab Piru chapter in Madrid, could you travel here 574 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: and help us establish it. Well, I was thinking one 575 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: way when you first mentioned that to me, but then 576 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: you said they're not on the game bang and tchip 577 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: like here, no they're not. Help them start a charter, don't. 578 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm not. I think I'm shining and running away from 579 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,479 Speaker 1: that because that's not the life I'm trying to live. 580 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to portray that part of that side. 581 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: Because you're thinking of ma Piru from the Compton perspective, 582 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: you could be the one that changed the direction of 583 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: the mab Piru brand. No, but I can't go out 584 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 1: there and then try to tell them something like they 585 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: want something good. What is it they want? I don't know. 586 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: They want an identity, that's all about. That's what it's 587 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: all about, whether it's if you even in Compton, it's 588 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: all about I want to belong to something. I want 589 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: to be a part of something. I want to identity, 590 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: whether it's the boy Scouts or my Piru Where why 591 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: don't you go let me shut it up and we 592 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: don't have a conversation with him. Maybe we can go 593 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: out there, you take pictures and do the interview, and 594 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: we can talk to those guys and try to figure 595 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: out what this is something that Alex and James are 596 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: doing right now because Reggie right, don't want international interpool proof, 597 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: not about any criminal actor, because not every gang member 598 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: is pushing Nipsey Hustle six crip. He was pushing rap 599 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: t shirts marathonus. So this is what we need to do. 600 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: We need we need to have gangs in the next 601 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: paperwork here? Why why why are you here? They got 602 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: paperwork on you. You know, to a certain extent, you're 603 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: always gonna stick to the g code. But that don't 604 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: mean that we can't take gangs in another direction exactly. 605 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: You know he was, he was then y'all read the 606 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: New York Times yesterday. What did they to say? What 607 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: they were about the victims? They wanted that they want 608 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: that strip mall they want because they had They were 609 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: tierating that location, the Marathon Clothing store, and they told 610 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: the landlord, y'all get rid of him. We're gonna take 611 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: your property from you. But that that's the police. The 612 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: police are gonna come and check whatever. You know what 613 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean. They used that as an example. They did 614 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: our motorcycle club like that. You know, I got a 615 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: lot of blacks hanging out and they're kicking in their 616 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: gay clothes. But they consider you a nuisance. So they 617 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: go to the city. You know, here you go this 618 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: little cat doing that. You might as want shut every month. 619 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: Everything that it was come on over asessive. It was 620 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: an assessive of gang activity going on at that strip mall. 621 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm just responding to the man thing that Nipsey was 622 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: an angel and no one called everybody change. I'm just 623 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: saying was taking his thing to a different level, his 624 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: thing in another direction. And that's why I said, get 625 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: at those guys and see what they actually really wanted. 626 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: They knew what they was. They were having assault victims, 627 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: and they were at the point where they were trying 628 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: to evict the man, and he said, okay, never mind, 629 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: let me get some investors. Landlord, don't evict me. I 630 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: want to buy the place from you. So what's wrong 631 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: with that? Nothing? But then they was about to take 632 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: it from him. No, I think Nipsey really represents what 633 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 1: every gang should have. Every gang needs a Nipsey hustle, 634 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: Every gang needs an investor, every gang needs someone that's 635 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: on a business level. And I truly believe that because 636 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: you're never gonna get rid of gangs Reggie. We've had 637 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: gangs in American after. This is all about what you 638 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: do with it, exactly, And obviously we thought he was 639 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: doing one thing with it, when it's coming out that 640 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't. I don't think it was tolerating another culture. 641 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: The problem is he can't control everyone in the circle, 642 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: and we can't blame him for what he did. The 643 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: guys do outside to give him a location to cultivate that. Hey, 644 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: it's the starting point. And as as he would have evolved, 645 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: he was only what thirty three years old? Ask you, 646 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: where's the starting point at? Man? If he didn't start there, 647 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: where's the starting point? We're just going about where we've 648 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: been hearing and stuff like that on YouTube and all 649 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: of that. I'm just telling you what. The report just 650 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: came out in the New York Times. New York Times. Yeah, 651 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: I believe the report. Have you read the New York 652 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: Times report? I don't. I don't read exactly. That's what 653 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: I thought. I don't do that. That type of stuff. 654 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: I ain't got chopped. But to listen to what they 655 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: put in there, whatever they write down, it's not believable. 656 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: Everything is not believable. Everything. Yeah, everything I read the article. 657 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: And actually the guy that wrote the article was on 658 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: l A radio today and he actually said that he 659 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: had some mixed feelings about Nipsey. He said, yeah, Nipsey 660 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: was doing some good things, but yeah, they wanted to 661 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: take this this prop property. But I don't know if 662 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: they would have been successful at doing that. I don't 663 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: think the abatement, but it was this double standard to 664 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: me where they were about to meet with him and 665 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: was promoting real big how they was about to have 666 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: this big meeting with him. Why another branch of the 667 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: department was investigating even was trying to take this property. 668 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: I just thought that to be interesting. But I think 669 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: we should look at gangs in the future as entities 670 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: that could expand and entrepreneurial pursuits. Wouldn't it be great 671 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 1: to have a group of guys in Madrid, Spain that 672 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: will help you distribute T shirts and maybe print them 673 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: for you or be your European distributor. I mean, there's 674 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: all kinds of things that that having satellite identities throughout 675 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: the world can do. They have nothing to do with 676 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: criminal activity exactly. If you can get that, if that's 677 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: what they want, well that's where you gotta start. That 678 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: you gotta start with the young kids. Man, if you 679 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: just say for answers, if you had a whole lot 680 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: of these guys with the same mentality as Nipsey, and 681 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: you're going in the in the neighborhood and you're grabbing 682 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: the kids and you're teaching these kids some type of skills, 683 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: going to places like Spain, Madrid and and teaching them this, 684 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: then you you if you if you get that point yourself. 685 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: But we're not even doing it in our backyard. We're 686 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: gonna go across this. I'm just saying I started here 687 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: and then I go there, and it has to be 688 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: done somewhere. If it don't, then everybody steal sitting on 689 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: the same old shan your backyard before you're gonna try 690 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: to clean up somebody else backyard. Well, I think Reggie, 691 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: you you have this belief because we're in l A. 692 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: Compton watch that gangs are always going to be involved 693 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: in some conflict and some negative activity. But I went 694 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: to Houston and interviewed gangs that have l a names 695 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: and them dudes ain't even banging, They just chilling. And 696 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: I get criticized for interviewing these guys. They say those 697 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: aren't real gangsters. They're not They're not putting in work, 698 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, why do you have to be putting 699 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,479 Speaker 1: in work in order to have this identity? These guys 700 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: in Houston, they love claiming whatever they want to be. 701 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: Let's say ma par Rous in Houston, but they're not 702 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: about banging on each other. It might not be Barbanian, 703 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: but they're expecting somebody from the ma par rule in 704 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: Confuta to be bringing some pills, some weed, some drugs 705 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: and not at all criminals. Now let me that's what 706 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: it does. I'm on the diving right now for that. 707 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: From from some great street nigga to some great niggas 708 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: and Memphis you put in the game goes, well, I 709 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: know what's going on, and I can try to play 710 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: and I act like it and put it a halo 711 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: over this yet, but that ain't what it is. I 712 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: know what's going on too. I travel to all these cities. 713 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: You know, I interviewed it, and they're gonna give you 714 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,240 Speaker 1: their version or what they're trying to propetray at that time. 715 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: But that ain't what that that that that thing is about, James, No, 716 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: we gotta factor that the area I grew up in 717 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a member of the mahapae rule in New Jersey. 718 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: You don't have in New Jersey. Detroit, Kansas City and 719 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: and the ones I'm talking about in Detroit ain't know 720 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: no game. But wait a minute, I'm trying to change. 721 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: You're talking about from New Jersey. I mean that's in Detroit. 722 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: Who I'm talking about, Brian Calvin BC. Are you're talking 723 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 1: about Biggie. No, I didn't even know Biggie was in Detroit. 724 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: Big you talk about you an't talk about? Okay, thank you? Well, 725 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean, but but no, But I 726 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: think Reggie, you're right. There are some of these gangs 727 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: and other cities in the US that are on that 728 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: gang banging tip. What But you just made me mad 729 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: because every every gang banger ain't know I waited. I 730 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 1: ain't said that. I ain't never said that. I ain't 731 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: never said that. I ain't said they're not waste of ship. 732 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: I said that, But I'm saying about that. There's no 733 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: hope for it. I noticed. I've been in, and I'm 734 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: in and and and there's hope. Everybody. Everybody got a chance, 735 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 1: everybody got over, there's a way out. Everybody everybody got 736 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: a way out. But I'm saying, before we're talking about 737 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: going up Spain and teaching that one way, we gotta 738 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: do it. Do it over here and Compton before we 739 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: were talking about branching out that someone. The main thing 740 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: we have to do, man, is get our mind out 741 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: of that out to get it and then stay. We 742 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: can help each other instead of bashing each other on 743 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: every topic comes up about being black. Feel me, we 744 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: gotta stop beating each other down, like like we just 745 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get nowhere because we can't get in 746 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: nowhere because it failed for me. Just because it failed 747 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: for me, I can fix it. Everybody got time, and 748 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,919 Speaker 1: it got a chance and a choice, And we don't 749 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: have to stay stuck on beating each other down and 750 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: and and matching each other when one try to climb. 751 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 1: I've been to kill a sneaking because he ain't looking 752 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: out for me. That's the ship we gotta get away from. 753 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: If we get away from that and start helping each other. No, 754 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we gotta help each other get to 755 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: the point. That's the topic. We're talking about. Taking these 756 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: kids and getting putting them to Now we gut them 757 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: to a different hit you up and saying that you 758 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: they want you to come up there and opening up 759 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: a fact went from that after after you explained your situation, 760 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: and then you tell about what what what the networks doing, 761 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: what the game networks are doing. But that's not the 762 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: case in all instances throughout the country. So the guys 763 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: in here to where did they claim they got? There's 764 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: at least ten one of them is Fortray gangster crips. 765 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: And what are they doing doing bike bike toy giveaways. 766 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 1: They're rapping, They're going to the clubs. They're hanging out 767 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: there doing regular regular things that late teams, early twenties 768 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: guys do. And they're fascinated with l A gang culture. 769 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: And they and they claiming this and and and have 770 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: no other connection. And the l A dudes, it ain't 771 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: the dude that came from l A that came out 772 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,919 Speaker 1: there and set them up. They just know a guy 773 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: did a guy did go out there and created that identity. 774 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: A bunch of these other Houston dudes follow them and 775 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: it exists there. Now are they get And here's an 776 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: interesting thing? And they called Hill big homie. Yeah, But 777 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: in l A there there are alliances and rivalries. For example, 778 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: the sixties and the eight Trades don't get along, right, 779 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: or Bloods and Crypts don't get along, or specific gangs 780 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: like let's say the Five Dudes Broadways and and the 781 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 1: Four Trade Gangsters don't get along. When you go to Houston, 782 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: you see the five Dudes Broadway and the four Trade 783 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 1: gangster chilling one or two guys that went out there. 784 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: They commuted out there, but their brothers they've been killed 785 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: like like that. They have different history, exactly different to 786 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: their history. And all of that was done quick. Now 787 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: stop because people start realizing, Oh, that's Reggie, right, the 788 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: one that it has something to do with my brother 789 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: getting killed. That's that's James. That that I've been talking about, MoMA, 790 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 1: but not need two truths did not last because all 791 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: they did is had conversation. And with that conversation, all 792 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: they did is drinking. Party. Ain't nobody gonna get nothing 793 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: right if all you're doing is drinking and partying. But 794 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: the main reason, no conversation and no way to fix. 795 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: But but that's and it came right back because of drinking. 796 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: I did an interview with Chris Blanchard, and I told 797 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: him it wouldn't gonna work because all these dudes is partying. 798 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: They're not thinking about trying to have some that was 799 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: trying to do stuff just like you have some guys. 800 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: I was trying to do something. You need they unify 801 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,080 Speaker 1: CC writer from that, right, And what did that it 802 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: that didn't understand my point that they tried. They it 803 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: wasn't drinking when they was that comfet high school had 804 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: I didn't say I didn't go to the game, mean, 805 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 1: so I don't know that. I wouldn't know what the 806 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: video tape of it. What I'm saying is the time, Okay, 807 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: I understand, so I know what was going on. It 808 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: wasn't no drinking and smoking and stuff going on. What 809 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, what I'm saying to you is while those 810 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: cats and everybody going to different neighborhoods and hanging out 811 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: and Bloods over here kicking it with the Crypts, everybody 812 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: were drinking. What comes with drinking attitude. Nobody is sitting 813 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: back with the with the right state of mind saying, man, 814 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,280 Speaker 1: we need to fix this. And this is how nobody 815 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: had a plan. So without a plan, you can't fix nothing. 816 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: So if everybody step up. Now I ain't talking about 817 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: out of the out of the UH ninety two rids, 818 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,479 Speaker 1: they formed c C rodders. Is that an accomplishment? No, 819 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: you just you just open you said, this is what happened, 820 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: and this is why it didn't work. And I just 821 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: do an example of they wasn't just drinking and all 822 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: of that. They tried it. They just started realizing who 823 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: who was and they got mad at each other and 824 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 1: they started going back at each other that it didn't work. 825 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: It didn't last. Um, yeah, but it's not always gonna 826 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: work the very first time. It's a great first step 827 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: and it actually laid the foundation for all the gang 828 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: intervention programs and all the o g s now that 829 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: are working for GRID Gang Reduction youth development program They 830 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 1: don't the young game and don't respect none of them. 831 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,919 Speaker 1: And they call them snitches, that's fine. They called him wrap, 832 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: that's fine. But they're still in the hood. The ogs 833 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 1: are still in the hood. They don't respect them. They 834 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,320 Speaker 1: tell him get away from me, and he works for 835 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 1: the police. Well, I don't think all of them getting 836 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: that back. There's there's a there's a GRID GRID representative 837 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: from at least gangs in l A right, and they're 838 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: part of softball leagues, And it's the movement, it's a 839 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: it's a beginning of a movement. And I think two 840 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: the Truth of ninety two was a good first step. 841 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't expect for how how long is 842 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: it gonna take for for the Palestinians to start getting 843 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: along with the Jews over there in the Middle East? 844 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: How many times has a US president went over there 845 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 1: to try to broke her peace? Do we do we 846 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: give up? Do we just say never go again? You 847 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: know they're each other. Yeah, but I mean you still 848 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: got to continue the peace talks if that's really what 849 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: you have in your heart. I don't say give up. 850 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: I don't say let's just take a dump on what 851 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: happened in ninety two. In fact, we saw the first 852 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: dropping in gang crimes since since eighty four, So in 853 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: almost ten years. First you four or five good months 854 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: a nikkas just hanging out and drinking and partying, and 855 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: calls and havocs in the area to the liquor stores 856 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: and all of that that was around there, and a 857 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: lot of other cities that wanted to do the same thing, 858 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: called up people in Watts, called up at and saying hey, 859 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: we want to try to emulate with you guys. Yeah, 860 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: and it was a problem. I was working the law 861 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 1: enforcement and it was a problem. What they'll do is 862 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: just hanging out and know that they was taking over streets, 863 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 1: blocking people couldn't go to work, the good people, the 864 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: working people couldn't even get them go to work out 865 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: hanging out the departments and all of that until five 866 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: six in the morning, drinking and all of it, and 867 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: blocking the people cars in and all of that, and 868 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: they couldn't even leave. They couldn't even go anywhere. It 869 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: was a problem. And that's that's something that should be 870 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: identified and fixed for future discussions. I mean, that's not 871 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: a major thing, but yeah, we gotta figure out, Hey, guys, 872 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: don't don't fill up, don't put all your cars over here. 873 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 1: Walking down the street on his way to work and 874 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 1: getting jumped and beat beating out the debt. But to 875 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: have bounty hunters, p J. Watts, grape streets, Hassie in 876 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: the village all together at the table, plus all the 877 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 1: other surrounding sets, that was monumental. That's that's a good start. 878 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: But you gotta continue doing what you set out to do. 879 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: You can't stop trying to find peace in a way 880 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: that to connect with the homies. Because everybody know you're 881 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: tired and you ain't got no money, and you're drinking 882 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 1: and getting high today, you're gonna resort back to the 883 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: same ship. You're gonna go right back to the same 884 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 1: old ship. So how do we incorporate getting programs and 885 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: shipped to healthy youngsters and teach them something other than 886 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: what they're doing now. And if you if I learned 887 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: a skill the craft that pay me and I'm only 888 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: fourteen years old and I can make money, I see 889 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,280 Speaker 1: something different. I see something different. So these older guys, 890 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 1: these guys that that's making money in their neighborhood, should 891 00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: invest in some type of facility to no trade centers 892 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: out there, no no no trade tech schools and stuff 893 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,839 Speaker 1: like that out there. They might be in the wrong 894 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: place though where they over there. And you know, you 895 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,399 Speaker 1: gotta make something, you gotta have something news. But if 896 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: you take off that and put on a uniform, people 897 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: probably pretty much won't know where you're from and what 898 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: you're about. You know, I don't think it's hard. I 899 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: suel have got my grandfather. Every everybody on eighty one 900 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: on that block knew how to do breaks, knew how 901 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 1: to do breaks, uh, dry wall, all of that. My 902 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 1: uncle's still on his job, the same job my grandfather 903 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: gave him fifty years. Fifty years. That's good from learning 904 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: a trade. Yeah, working at Tiger I mean, uh not 905 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 1: Taguards still, but Albert and Albert. But they wanted to 906 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: do it. And it's year old young men working at 907 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: pep boys now. But what did they do. They went 908 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: to the trade schools. They took advantage of the programs 909 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: is out there. And I munderstanding. We we we um 910 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: give people like a pass for not wanting to go 911 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,720 Speaker 1: and do the trade centers or or the trade schools 912 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I said, there, we're so stuck in. 913 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 1: I ain't working for nine fifty a job as a job, 914 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,240 Speaker 1: you work your way up. This is what we ain't understanding, 915 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: because the homies are you're working for man, Go get 916 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: your job, work, learn something, and the next time you 917 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 1: see me, I'll have something. We don't want to do that. Uh. 918 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 1: We too proud to pick up cans and and turn 919 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: it in. We're too proud to We'll get at at 920 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,359 Speaker 1: at cars, juniors. You ain't gonna see no black man 921 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: the cars juniors. I ain't gonna do that. But how 922 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,399 Speaker 1: do you get what you want if you don't start 923 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: from the bottom. And this is what we gotta understand. 924 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: So let's practice and preach that instead of saying fuck it. 925 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 1: So you're down to go to Madrid. I'm down to 926 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: go anywhere where I can help. But that's my whole 927 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: thing right now. It's just man, I'm gonna speak my 928 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 1: mind and I'm gonna be honest. All right. I'm gonna 929 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna reach out to Paolo and tell him to 930 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: fly us out there because I want to come. I 931 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 1: want to go. I'm sure Reggie won't. I can't go. 932 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: Reggie can't think that would be a good thing, man, 933 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: a good thing. Go to Madrid and talk to the 934 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: youngsters over there, and well, you see, you don't want 935 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: from kids to a guy that hits you up on 936 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 1: the internet. He never said to come and help. Well, listen, 937 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,399 Speaker 1: let me let me finish it. He says, Um, if 938 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: we wanted to start a mob par rou chapter Madrid, 939 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: could you travel here to help us establish it? What 940 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: is about kids? I'm sure, I'm sure he's a youngster. 941 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a youngster. When you think this guy 942 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: is fifty years old? Why can't this be a male club? 943 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: I gotta be my part. Why you know, I don't 944 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: know what what I have in store for him. I 945 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: know where you check us out. But now I'm gonna 946 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: I'm tuning you out. Man. You O G Jameson from 947 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: MA from Ma Paru. I thought you was coming out 948 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: here to teach me how to do You out here 949 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 1: coming out here talking about peace of love, and then 950 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: we had never seen each other. No more, I'm on 951 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 1: the flame. I'm almost certain being interested in no sort 952 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: of criminal organization at all. I mean, I've I've met 953 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: so many of these dudes around the country. Um, some 954 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: of them are, some of them want to want to learn. 955 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,360 Speaker 1: One of this is somebody I've been hearing about and 956 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: doing this. I want to know, come help us for 957 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm not here to promote. You tell them that, but 958 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: think about it. The people who are on that level, 959 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: then they may strip you down, rob you. The ones 960 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: I want to slang those put on that level. You 961 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: think they're gonna send me a d M saying established 962 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: us from New Jersey though, huh? You just talking about 963 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,919 Speaker 1: the Nicks from Houston. They do right, here, they only 964 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: thousands of the majority of started new champions. Is the 965 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: guys that the town. It's a dude that came from 966 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: l a man, we did it from San Bernardino, right, yeah, alright, 967 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,399 Speaker 1: Well I don't think every all these guys and all 968 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 1: these networks are involved in in nefarious activities. I think 969 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 1: some of them just are in there exactuated with Los Angeles. Yeah, 970 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: and the mentality of the dudes that they if they've 971 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: been listening to James. Now, if they've been listening to 972 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: James as Paolo has been doing, he understands what his 973 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:58,359 Speaker 1: mentality is. Hopefully this guy James said, call them find 974 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,360 Speaker 1: out and so we may even be all James actually 975 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: do is called because and if he's don't know, I 976 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 1: want to be a fashion of the mob part rule 977 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:13,760 Speaker 1: and this then then from that, but why to James 978 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: or something like that, because he's because to the Gangster 979 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 1: Chronicles and it's his favorite podcast. Go ahead, James, what 980 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: other mab partugi gonna act that of exactly? That's my point, 981 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: you don't know, but one point, and why I want 982 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: to be like him. I want to be like and 983 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: that's my whole thing. And that's what I'm not promoting 984 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 1: you have I know that. I'm just saying, well, hisn't 985 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 1: it you're attending his attend is two different things. No, 986 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: it's not. I don't I don't think this. We don't know, 987 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: we don't know if he's d m in me the 988 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: way he is from Madrid, a city that has a 989 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: very low crime rate, very low gang um presence. What 990 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: what do you think he want to drying? So here's 991 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: the thing. A lot of guys throughout the world copy 992 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 1: l a culture, but they're not connected to no one 993 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 1: from those neighborhoods. So now to be officialized or to 994 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: be legitimate, you have to be connected to someone that's 995 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 1: from that community. So he wants to be able to 996 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: say I'm a ma piru, I'm a real ma paru 997 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: because James McDonald came here. I agree, I believe that's why. 998 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he don't really need James create piru out there. 999 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 1: And if they basically the same way is when I 1000 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: was in the motorcycle club, how would gather chapters? You know, 1001 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: people call us and hit us own Facebook or Internet 1002 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: or whatever or going through the chosen through website and 1003 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: what they do is acts. Can they be members of 1004 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: Chosen Few. We didn't have some cats that that are 1005 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 1: Chosen Few, but they wear different patches that came to 1006 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,959 Speaker 1: us and converted to our patch. You know what I'm saying, 1007 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: put on the red patch of post to the white 1008 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: and blue. So what they're saying is the same thing 1009 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: we had chosen. You got over fifty chapters now that 1010 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: that that that I just found out. So you've got 1011 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people all over this place that the 1012 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: farthest I think is the Philippines. And you've got people 1013 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: all over these places want to be a part of 1014 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: what they doesn't serve it on the internet and say, damn, 1015 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: they've been here sixty years and they take black s, 1016 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: white Mexicans and everybody, and they still going and and 1017 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: and then you have it's the same thing. Actually it's 1018 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: the same kind of the same thing, and it's the 1019 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: exact same kind they want to be a part of 1020 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: my pu. Now y'all comparing Ma Paru to uh, I'm 1021 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: not compared you like you don't be understanding how many 1022 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying the same. I'm saying that you wanted to 1023 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: listen to what what what I'd be responding too. I'm 1024 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 1: responding to what Alex just said, the same same concept 1025 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: it is, but just and how many people call Chosen 1026 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Few a gang. How many called Chosen Fewer criminal organizations 1027 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: the club? But they also have outlaws put put on 1028 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: their pets as well, you know what, I allow it, okay, 1029 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: but not all Chosen fuels out there involving. And then 1030 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 1: that's my point. But ma par rules not my mom 1031 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 1: par rouses. I'm looking at one right now. He don't 1032 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: claim but because he had to, he does own that 1033 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: because he don't want to be associated to what the 1034 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 1: ma par rous still stands for. But he still he 1035 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: does owned it. In my view, they bad in him 1036 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: because he's fast. I'm not a part of that no more. 1037 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm not about that no more. He's not about the 1038 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 1: bs that he won't even refer to himself as Mom Jane. 1039 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,479 Speaker 1: I know I'm like this. I cannot contradict myself saying 1040 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 1: that I'm done with the situation and I'm not like 1041 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: some of these guys say they're not affiliated no more. 1042 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: But you still see him doing this and this and 1043 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: all of that us ship. I'm not gonna do that. 1044 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm solely trying to get rid of the name Mom 1045 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: James just so crazy. Yeah, I can't because everybody comes 1046 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 1: and I've been dealing with this for the longest. Uh 1047 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: in the in the supermarket, Mom, that's mom, James, and 1048 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: Uh at the beach and then and and to swap me. 1049 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been dealing with that and I gotta 1050 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: get away from it. But I refused to sit in 1051 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 1: and promote the mob, par Route mob, any anything else 1052 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 1: that that that's not associated with me. So nobody has 1053 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: to worry about this guy right here in the neighborhood 1054 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: hanging and doing this. If I do a pop up, 1055 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 1: I do a pop up in our bounds. You know 1056 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and know hanging and kicking and drinking 1057 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: and doing all that. I'm past that. I'm past that. 1058 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm on something different. But if I can bring something 1059 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: different to Madrid, to the Philippines, to cats and watch 1060 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: and they want to sit down and listen to what 1061 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: I gotta say and how it should be, man, let's roll, 1062 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,919 Speaker 1: Let's do it. That's what I'm talking because the want, 1063 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: if that's what they want. My Piru is a gang, 1064 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: but also my Paru is a community, and I'm not 1065 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 1: make a distinction between every every hood is a gang 1066 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 1: and a community. There's the guys that grew up there 1067 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: and we just rolled through there the other day. We 1068 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: rolled through the ma Paru community. He hung out wood 1069 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 1: would and walk and and they. But I don't think 1070 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 1: they're putting in the work. They ain't doing no shooting, 1071 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: but they they might be getting in no cars and nothing, 1072 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 1: but they ain't. They ain't disassociated from the hood. But 1073 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. They haven't because they're not. They're 1074 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 1: just trying to. But these people were reaching out to 1075 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 1: him because they I don't think they understand that he 1076 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 1: has Well we're gonna find out. I'm gonna do some 1077 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: more research on Mr Powelo from Spain. But that concludes 1078 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. I want to thank 1079 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: everyone for listening, and again, if you're listening on iTunes, 1080 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: please leave us a rating and a review so that 1081 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: we can continue bringing in bringing you this amazing content. 1082 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: Don't forget to check me out also on Street TV 1083 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 1: a k a. Street Gangs, Don't forget to check out 1084 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: Reggie right on Bomb First that's every Tuesday night. And 1085 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 1: don't forget to go and check out James in Australia. Well, 1086 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 1: on that note, I just want to thank everyone for 1087 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: listening to another episode of the Chronicles and we are out. 1088 01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: All this has been a digital so UTS Network production.