1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome. It's the program that keeps you 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: up to date with your Houston Texans, and that would 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: be Texans All Access. Mark Vandermeyer with you today, joined 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: by John Harris. We've got plenty to talk about this evening, 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: as the Texans are in week two of their conditioning program. Oh, 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: a little thing called the NFL Draft is this week 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: actually taking place in Dallas. I would love to see 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: this thing in Houston and numerous other things happening. Johnny, 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: how are you doing tonight? I'm doing pretty well if 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: you consider the last years draft was in Philadelphia, right, yes, 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: and the Eagles won won a Super Bowl. Yeah? Oh oh, Dallas, no, no, no, 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: but you know what, no one picked the Eagles at 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: this time last year. No one did. And I mean 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a Dallas Cowboys fan. This is breaking news here. 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm not a Dallas Cowboys fan either. If Dallas got 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: their act together, you know, and kept everybody they have 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: health issues too, and not maybe not health as much 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: as availability of certain players, but if everybody was available 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: to them, that could possibly be. What about that old line, 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: That old line's not losing any sleep lately, right right? 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: I mean, they've there. There's some talk that they might 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: look at right tackle in this draft, but still you're 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: talking about Travis Frederick and Zach Martin and Tyrnn Smith, Matti. 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: They're still pretty good. I mean year before the last 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: year talking about this is the best in the league. 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: And I think that they could possibly rise to top 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: five level again. And then they have everybody available, they 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: run the daylights out of the ball. Prescott year three, 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: You could make that case for them. I don't want 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: to see it happen. No, I certainly don't either, but 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good measuring stick Week 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: five for this for this organization. They'll get one right 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: out of the right out of the shoot against the 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Patriots and Titans. But I think when you face when 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: you face NFC teams, you get a chance to see 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: what the and I would think if you pulled a 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: lot of people in the NFL, they would tell you 38 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: that the NFC is stronger than the FC across the board. 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: That yes, the Patriots in the FC have been there 40 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: and and and the Broncos won obviously with with Peyton 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: his last year, not in a whole lot beining with 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: that defense. They would probably tell you that the NFC 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: is better than the AFC overall top the bottom, which okay, 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: I can make that. I can see making that argument. 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be a great measuring stick 46 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: to have the Giants and Cowboys early in that season 47 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: and play them in Reach three and five. I think 48 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good measuring stick for this team. Well, 49 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: I think it's funny you mentioned that NFC versus AFC thing, 50 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: because some of this is brand name recognition. Yes, when 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: you look at the rise of say the AFC South, 52 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely you're gonna have the AFC South matching up with 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: the NFC East. Now, not that the NFC East does 54 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: anybody's juggernaut division at this point, but you do have 55 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champs living there. Yep. We just talked 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: about the Cowboys, how they're a year removed from a 57 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: really good season. Ye Washington, Washington whatever, eight and eight 58 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: type of team. Maybe they're a lot better this year, 59 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: maybe they take another step without now yeah so, and 60 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: the Giants were horrible last year, but the year before 61 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: we're good. Yeah. So it's hard to say you can 62 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: see the Giants bouncing back. And here I don't think 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: anybody would be shocked If the Giants go nine and 64 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: seven ten, I wouldn't be shocked at all. That's a 65 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: team with a lot of talent and with Pat Shermer 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: now in town running a tighter ship. We'll see how 67 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: that goes. As opposed to Ben McAdoo, who was there, 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: but Ben mcadoo's first year, I got that team to 69 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and of course the infamous Miami boat trip. 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: Since that Miami boat trip, I think New York has 71 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: like three wins. So anyhow, I think the NFC, the 72 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: NFC East, to me is obviously gets a lot of 73 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: hype because of the media markets it's in, and it's 74 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: always been such a focal point for the NFL. But 75 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: I could see that thing being topsy turvy this year. 76 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine Philadelphia falling out of its perch. 77 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: But Philadelphia two years ago was what seven and nine, 78 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: six and ten even I think in that twenty sixteen season, 79 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: because they drafted somewhere in the mid They drafted fourteen 80 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: I think in twenty seventeen, So I don't think they 81 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: take a step all the way back. I think they've 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: found something there. Carson Wentz staying healthy, I think is 83 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna be big for that organization. I think the Eagles 84 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: will be in that mix. But it goes to show 85 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: you the job that Howie Roseman did last year's GM, 86 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: not just his draft picks, I mean Derek Barnett, great 87 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: draft pick, but the free agent signings they made well, 88 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean Chris Long, Garrett Blunt, and then guys that 89 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: contributed there were undrafted free agents. Corey Clement was an 90 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent running back and he was a huge 91 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 1: part of that team. Jji. You making a trade for Jji, 92 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: you mean they made the right moves at the right time, 93 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: and just that's that's what this league is about. Right, 94 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: right time, right move you make. That's like with the 95 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson last year. You made the right move the 96 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: right time and got the right guy. That was an 97 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: epic move, that was a seismic move. But you were 98 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: just talking about if the Eagles hit all the right notes. 99 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: The Jaguars hit almost all the right notes. But as 100 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: we know in this league, you know you could go 101 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: minus four wins from where you were the year before 102 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: very quickly. And when you talk about teams like the 103 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: Giants had had a bad year but a good year 104 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: the year before, and certainly a lot of different circumstances 105 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: played into that. The Texans are one of those teams 106 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: that hope to say or make people say, gee, Dana 107 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: add season last year, but the year before they were 108 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: nine and seven. Now they have Watson and he's healthy 109 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: the whole year, and look what happened to them. You 110 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: want to be that kind of team. I think the 111 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: AFC has a lot going for it now. Pittsburgh is Pittsburgh, 112 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: and I know there will be some adjustments there. The Ravens, 113 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, but then let's swing it west here. 114 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: When you look at Kansas City with Mahomes, what they 115 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: could possibly do Denver, I don't think they bounced back 116 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: all the way, but they're gonna bounce back from where 117 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: they were to a better season. I would think the 118 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: Raiders could have a pretty good bounce back kind of 119 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: campaign going. And the Chargers the ultimate mystery in the 120 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: National Football League, But no one would be shocked if 121 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers went nine and seven, ten and six, well, 122 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: maybe ten and six a little bit of a surprise. 123 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: I've said the Chargers are as sneaky hot as any 124 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: team you're gonna find. Because to that end. You don't know. 125 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: You don't know whether you're gonna get glammed up LA 126 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: Chargers or you're gonna get up warm ups lane in 127 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: bed LA Chargers. You don't know. I mean, the thing 128 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: about it is they can look so good at times defensively. 129 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: And I was going through their depth chart last night 130 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: upfront with Bosa and Ingram and up front and then 131 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: Denzel Paramount linebacker from the U, and then Casey Hayward. 132 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: You had one more piece there, and I gave them 133 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: in my mocked out the game, Derwin James. I was 134 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: because that's he was just available. Then I'm like, my goodness, 135 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: they had him. They had one of their piece in 136 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: the offense decide to help out Keenan Allen with Philip Rivers. 137 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: That team could be as good as any in this league. 138 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: But you but you said it. They're just they're so 139 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: up and down. You just never know what to expect 140 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: from them. There. They can beat anybody, anybody kind of team, absolutely, 141 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: And I mean in twenty sixteen was a perfect example. 142 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: They come in here and obviously it was after our 143 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: trip to Mexico City. They come in here and beat 144 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: us up one side and down the other a few 145 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: weeks later they lost to the Browns. Yeah, the Browns 146 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: team that went one fifteen. So you never know. Yeah, 147 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: you don't know what they expect from the Chargers at all. 148 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: I think the AFC is is right with the picking. 149 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: And it's interesting you brought the AFC south. I was watching. 150 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: I know this will surprise you, but the NFL network 151 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: had a marathon of its draft coverage. They they took 152 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: they took each draft starting in two thousand eleven right 153 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: in two eleven, starting in two thousand and eleven, they 154 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: narrowed it down to two hours and it was really 155 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: neat to watch. And so I was watching our guys 156 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: get picked. I watched JJ get picked in twenty eleven, 157 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: which is pretty close. And what they said and what 158 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: they were talking about, Uh, they Mac liked to pick. 159 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: He was a lot like me. He just wasn't totally 160 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: sure where they were gonna play him, but they just 161 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: knew he was gonna make some place for him. But 162 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: it was interesting to see Derek and TJ and how 163 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: young they were. It was pretty it was pretty funny 164 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: to watch. But they were talking and you know, we 165 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: do the draft together and so we don't get to 166 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: we see the coverage, but we don't get to hear it. 167 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: But when the Texans draft traded up drafted to Sean 168 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: last year, Rich Eisen was talking about, Hey, we need 169 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: to take a look at this AFC South. Now, guys, 170 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: look at this Watson in Houston, Mariota in Tennessee. And 171 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: that was before the Jags had even hit, but they 172 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: had drafted four Nette and you could see maybe coming 173 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: the heads of talent, and then of course Andrew Lucky 174 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. And I remember and Eisen says, boy, we'll 175 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: be here to take a look at this AFC South 176 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: because this is not a division we've paid a lot 177 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: of attention to lately. We need to going forward. And 178 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: I've said, after everything is transpired over the last year 179 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: or so, I think this ends up being the best 180 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: division in the AFC, without a doubt. It used to 181 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: be Afcats the bottom. Yes, I think it is the 182 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: AFC South beyond a shadow of a doubt this year. 183 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Right now, Look, this is pre draft. The draft is 184 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: this week, and I think we're all eager to see 185 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: a lot of things this week. Ye First and foremost, 186 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: what the Texans do with whatever they've got? Do they trade, 187 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: do they not trade? They're gonna have some trades, but 188 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: do they trade up? You know, what's is there a 189 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: semi blockbuster? It's hard to call moving into the second 190 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: round of blockbuster, but in relative context to where you 191 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: are right now, it kind of is, you know, from 192 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: the universe right now with Watson already being here and 193 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: you have no number four pick. But to me, the Patriots, 194 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: what they do in this draft, what's their plan at 195 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: quarterback going into the future exactly? What about the players 196 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: they're missing? What about the Butler hangover all of it? 197 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: I think everybody's very curious. They always are with the Patriots, 198 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: but it just doesn't look so clean from where we 199 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: sit right now going in now, maybe this draft turns 200 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: out to be unbelievable for them, Maybe they make some 201 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: other traits, Maybe they acquire active players with picks. I 202 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do, But to me, that's 203 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: gonna tell you a lot about the strength of the AFC. 204 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: You look at the rest of the East. The Jets, 205 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: do they have a good season, I don't know. They 206 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: were more competitive last year than people thought they would be. 207 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: The Dolphins, can they get back to the playoffs? But 208 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: I think the odds are very good when you look 209 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: at the AFC South pre draft that the AFC South 210 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: gets two teams into the postseason. Again, I think they're 211 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: very good because the texts is gonna have a better season. 212 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: The Cults are gonna have a better season. Now, maybe 213 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: they beat each other up or whatever, but you did 214 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: get the Jags and the Titans both in the playoffs, 215 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: and they both won playoff games Jags one two. I 216 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: think it speaks well of where this division is headed. 217 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: I looked at the draft trade value chart. I've looked 218 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: at that and I love it's the one. It's the 219 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: one that came into play back in the early nineties 220 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys brought it into play. Jimmy Johnson had 221 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: that and that's the way he used to value trades 222 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: and such, and so he they put that together. If 223 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: the Texans were to trade their three third round picks, yeah, 224 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: they could get as high as the Browns second second 225 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: round pick. I think it's like thirty four, thirty five, 226 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: thirty five. I think so, because the Browns had the 227 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: first pick in that round and then they've got the 228 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: Texans pick. So the Texans essentially could trade their three 229 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: third rounders to get the Brock pick back. To get 230 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: that pick back, that's the highest according to the math, 231 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: that they could go if they gave up another, if 232 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: they gave up a six rounder to go with it, 233 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: they might be able to get to that first player. Johnny, 234 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you on the spot right there, early 235 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: second round. Would they invest that much in And I'm 236 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna say this before you answer the question. If they 237 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: move up that much, that's a whole round higher from 238 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: where they are right now. If they do that, I 239 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: think that they don't give up their three threes. I 240 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: think they give up next year's extra two and maybe 241 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: a three and a four or something like that. I 242 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: don't have to chart in front of me, but I 243 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: think that math would add up pretty well. Yeah, I 244 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: think I would think you're I don't think you're right. 245 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, you want to tune into our 246 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: draft coverage this weekend to see if the Texans do 247 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: make a trade. Because they do, then so can you 248 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: Mattress firm offer discount for you to trade in your mattress. 249 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: The Texans make a trade in the draft, any roundy trade, 250 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: any trade? What's the round Mattress firm is probably be 251 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: the official Mattress utill the Houston Texans twenty five percent off. 252 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: If the Texans end up making it, that's a big discount, 253 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: twenty five percent off Mattress firm. Yes, Texas trade trade. 254 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: That's it. You want to make a trade. So you 255 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: want to make a trade. At this point, I think 256 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: all right odds that they make any trade. Yeah, I 257 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: think they make a deal. I mean you're just looking 258 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: at it. At least eighty percent chance that they make 259 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: a trade. That means eighty percent chance you get a 260 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: twenty five percent just get it metas form. I think 261 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: they don't have a fifth round pick, and I could 262 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: see them. I could see them standing pat for most 263 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: of the second round. But if there is a player, 264 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: say say Orlando Brown is still on the board, maybe 265 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: that's somebody trade up for a tackle is on the 266 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: board they didn't expect to be there. That's a great 267 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: little hypothetical there, Orlando Brown, because if you just had 268 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: to look at him, John, I bet he ends up 269 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: going higher than people. No, listen, I think he does too. 270 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: Mar Where do people have him going? I think people 271 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: have sort of it's been kind of a regression back 272 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: to the meaning because here's here's what happened. Oh my gosh, 273 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: he's so unathletic, non athletic, right to combine. So what 274 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: should you do? We'll go back and watch this film. Well, 275 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: if you watch this tape, you realize he's not perfect. 276 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: He's not the quickest, he's not the fleetest of foot. 277 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: But the guy can play. And by the way you 278 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: and I stand him at four feet away from each other, 279 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: he could touch you from where I'm sitting. So I 280 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: watched every repet his against Nick Bosa, and Bosa had 281 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: a hard time. Bosa is one of the better edge 282 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: rushers coming into the league, like Joey, very similar to Joey, 283 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: and Orlando would seemingly get beat and then just reach 284 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: out his arms. Point being, I think he's gonna end 285 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: up being a second rounder, and so you're gonna have 286 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: to trade up if you want to get him. Point 287 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 1: you bring up reaching out your arms and making the 288 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: guy move a little extra real estate through it, and 289 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: then that split second of time and ables the quarterback 290 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: to get the ball off. Yeah, that's that's all you're 291 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: looking for. Here's it. It sometimes gets overthought. Can the 292 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: guy play or not? You look at the tape. He 293 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: made a lot of plays. Baker Mayfield raves about him. 294 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: Not that his endorsement should mean everything. That's a former teammate, 295 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: who knows. But I got a feeling that and his 296 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: name's gonna come up in the second segment, by the way, 297 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: job interview behavior issues that may apply to everybody, but 298 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting if Orlando Brown is there second half 299 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: of the second round, do they go ahead and pull 300 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: the trigger because it is if he at tackle, you 301 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: have Julio Davin portlandtell hope he can play really well, 302 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: but they might want to invest a little bit more. 303 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna take a tackle somewhere and maybe 304 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: they really like him and they want to move up. Well, 305 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: here's the difference. If it's quarterback. We're talking about only 306 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: one quarterback plays at a time. If Orlando Brown is 307 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: one of your five best lineman, you'll find a spot 308 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: for him guard tackle, you find a spot. I mean, 309 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: to me, he's a tackle, and I think he's probably 310 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: better start to be a right tackle. So maybe you 311 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: end up with I mean, if you have Julio and 312 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Davenport and Orlando Brown stand next to each other and 313 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: they just to touch fingers and spread out. They could 314 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: touch the end of these walls. I mean they're the 315 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: wingspan on them would be unbelievable. So in my Harris 316 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: one hundred final Harris one hundred, I have him at 317 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: forty eight and I right what right middle of right 318 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: where that trade might occur, right right in the middle 319 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: of the second round. All right, John Harris stays with us. 320 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: What about the top part of the draft? The Texans 321 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: are not in it, but what might happen? We'll talk 322 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: about that and numerous other Texans topics here on Texans Radio. 323 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Here we are hanging out in the Huntday Texans Radio studio, 324 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: Mark Fantomer with you with John Harris and the NFL 325 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: Draft just a couple of days away. We will have 326 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: complete coverage for you starting Thursday night, seven pm Central, 327 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: John Harris, Andre Ware and me we will be here 328 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: in the Hunday Texans Radio studio bringing you the first 329 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: round of the draft on these airwaves. And we are 330 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: looking forward to doing that. Andrea participating in a draft 331 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: show for the first time ever. So that's gonna be 332 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: awesome to have him and you here and I'll be watching. Yeah, 333 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: I'll be here too. Yeah, no rookie hazing for Drey either. 334 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: By the way, it'll be It'll be good now. I'm 335 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm so stoked. I love when when Drey is 336 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: with us. I know it was an unfortunate circumstance last year, 337 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: but Hurricane Harvey hit and we had to go from 338 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: New Orleans to Dallas, right and all of us had 339 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: to stay together. And typically Drey will fly off to 340 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: college game or you know, sometimes they'll come home with us. 341 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: But he was with us for a few extra days. 342 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: I told him, I was like, this is awesome having 343 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: him around with us for those three days. And it 344 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: was pretty cool because we're at the Star and while 345 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: we're kind of waiting to see where we're going, there's 346 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: a football over in the other end. All of a sudden, 347 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: he just picks it up and starts Remember that he 348 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: started chucking around at Jones and Robert just in no doubt. 349 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: He's on the phone talking and we're just we're just 350 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: playing catch and he's snagging it with his right hand, 351 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: throwing it back to me. I'm like, he's unbelievable. So 352 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be a blast to have 353 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: him here for Thursday, and we got great stuff for Friday. 354 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Friday's the Draft party. You're right, so party with us 355 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Friday night. Robert Hensley as well, helping us out with 356 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: our coverage from the draft party as the Texans make 357 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: the first picks of this year's draft. And then Saturday 358 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: all day long, Sean Pendergast, Ted Johnson, Paul Gallot, they'll 359 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: all be hanging out and helping us with the coverage 360 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: from eleven Central to the close up business, which for 361 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: us will be seven PM. The draft will be over. 362 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: We'll even give you the after draft stuff as the 363 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: reports start coming out of who is signing as an 364 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent with this football team. That is one 365 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: of my favorite times of the entire draft is to 366 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: see where players that weren't drafted. Okay, which players didn't 367 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: get drafted in The one that stands out more than 368 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: any other that from last year in particular was Dylan 369 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Cole And I remember it was about this time last 370 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: year where I was kind of I kind of take 371 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: up the process as much as I can to what 372 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: the NFL teams doing. This is what they do. They 373 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: get their boards setting and it's like all right, go 374 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: and look at these guys that maybe we haven't looked 375 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: at or or that we're going to dive into. Not 376 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: The scouts did obviously know about Dylan Cole, but I 377 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: had seen him a little bit. But I wanted to 378 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: study him and I went. I went to watch him 379 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: and thought, Holy smokes, this guy can play. This guy's 380 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: a Tasmanian devil. He's all over the place, he's tackling 381 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: quarterbacks on zone read, he's making picks. This guy can play. 382 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: And then he didn't get drafted, and I'm thinking after 383 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: the drafted, I think just because people thought he was 384 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: short and small, which we've seen him. I mean, he 385 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: he's shorter. I mean he's not like Brian could right, 386 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: And I think that was probably part of it. And 387 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: the other part was, well where are we playing? What 388 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: are we gonna do with this guy? And I thought 389 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: the Texas used him perfectly last year until you know 390 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: he's he covered receivers down the sideline against the Browns 391 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: and makes that pick, and I thought, what we had 392 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: a guy that could do this. So when he signed 393 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: with the Texas last year, I was I was thrilled. 394 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how many of those sign this year 395 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: because as we've talked about before. The roster sits at 396 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: about seventy five or seventy six right now, and you 397 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: can only take ninety and you got eight draft picks, 398 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: so doing a map that would leave you about six 399 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: or seven undrafted. So I can't wait to look at 400 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: it all next time. I know it's gonna be so 401 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: much fun because I think in their minds they had 402 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: so many guys hurt that some of these guys a 403 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: red shirt got calls a half red shirt if you will, 404 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: you know some of these guys, they just want to 405 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: have another look at them because they're really promising. All right, 406 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: I want to take you through this. Browns obviously have 407 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: the number one overall pick in this draft. Now you 408 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: do a mock for the Washington Policy, you do the 409 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: Harris one hundred for Houston Texans dot com. And in 410 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: your mock, who do you have Cleveland taking. I have 411 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: taken Donald and a lot of people do. Yeah. I 412 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: just feel like Donald's the best option there because I 413 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: think what's here, Here's to me is what happens. They 414 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: get in the draft room and they're thinking of Alan 415 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: and Rosen and Mayfield, and they thought about how many 416 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: times the Browns have messed this thing up, and so 417 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a part of them that says, look, 418 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: Donald is probably the safest pick here. He's to me, 419 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: I think he's the best quarterback, but I think in 420 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: their eyes they might look at him as the safest. 421 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: They've got to hit us. They've got to get a guy. 422 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: They need a guy they can rely on, and I 423 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: think Sam Donald probably handles the ups and downs of 424 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: being Cleveland's quarterback better than any of the others. I 425 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: think Baker wants I think Baker wants it, but I 426 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: just I feel like it's maybe a little too volatile. 427 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, you think Baker is gonna say something, 428 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, who knows what he's gonna end 429 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: up doing. Ironically, I have Baker going at number three. 430 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: The Jets, Oh gosh, Baker Bayfield in New York Hey, 431 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: that could be really interesting too. I think so too. 432 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: But I have Donald gold one to Cleveland. Now, the Giants, 433 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people think, well, they need a cornerback 434 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna develop for the future. You cannot pass up Barkley, 435 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: can you. You're the New York Giants. You still have 436 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: Eli Manning playing I'm gonna build for the future now, 437 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: or am I gonna try to try to run the 438 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: football in twenty eighteen. I need a bounce back season 439 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: big time. I think it's gonna end up being Barkley. 440 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: But I think that Gettleman, they'd get him. The GM 441 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: for the Giants, is gonna take calls the entire ten minutes. 442 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna take call. Trading up to take 443 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: who at number two, Well, that's quarterback or bark It's 444 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: gotta be yea to me, it's gotta be a quarterback. 445 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, think of the three trades that happened last year. 446 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: The three trades were for Trubisky, Mahomes and Watson. Those 447 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: are only trades in the first round to go up 448 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: and get a quarterback. And does he pull up bears here? 449 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: Here's here's what I think. I just mentioned the Jets 450 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: thinking about Baker Mayfield. Apparently, apparently the Cardinals are in 451 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: love with Baker Mayfield. And if you I've heard that 452 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: last year in the Cardinals draft room that when the 453 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: Texans moved up to twelve, it took to Shaun Watson. 454 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: There was an audible bad word and lots of bad words, 455 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: said that the Cardinals were very interesting getting a quarterback 456 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: last year, be at Mahomes or Watson, and then the 457 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: Chiefs and Texans moved up to go get a guy. 458 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: They cannot go into a year with Sam Bradford and 459 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: Mike Glennon. There's just you can't. They can't do it. 460 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Maybe they start with Bradford moved 461 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: to a rook but they've got to have a rook now, 462 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: you can't do that. And so I would think the 463 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals would be a team to watch moving up. Now 464 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: that's from fifteen. That's a little dicey. But the Texans 465 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: went from twenty five to twelve. They would be going 466 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: fifteen up to two. They would have to mortgage. It 467 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: is very much so, well, why don't I wait for 468 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson at fifteen? See, I would too. I would 469 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: too if I were. But again, when you know how 470 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: it is for quarterbacks, I didn't think Trubisky was going too. 471 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: They had three quarterbacks off the board by twelve. It's 472 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a mad rush quarterback. Yes, once we have 473 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: like five in the top, watch watch what happens. Let's 474 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: say Let's say that, Let's say the Browns do go 475 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: with Donald. Let's say the Giants, do you go with Barkley. 476 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: Once the Jets take Mayfield, there's gonna be some panic. 477 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some panic by teams to save we 478 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta go get our guy. We've got to 479 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: go get our guy. And then you're gonna see see 480 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: some moving I think Denver's ripe to move down. I 481 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: think Indianapolis five Denvers ripe to move down. I think 482 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: six Indianapolis is ripe to move down. Um. I think 483 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Miami is a team that could definitely move up, right. 484 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: I think Miami can move up. I think Baltimore Art's 485 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: excuse me, Buffalo can move up. And I think that 486 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: Arizona could potentially move up. Wow. I think those teams 487 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: could all move up to make sure that heavy transactional 488 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: stuff going on, and it's gonna make it really fun, 489 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: all right. So take me to the cults here and 490 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: what you think they're thinking right now. Chris Ballard said, 491 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: either yesterday or Friday, I can't remember, or over the weekend, 492 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: he said there are eight non quarterback elite prospects in 493 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: this draft. So if you let's say that three quarterbacks 494 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: are considered elite plus eight. That's eleven. To ensure that 495 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: he gets one of the eight non quarterback elite players, 496 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: he can move down as far as eleven. Oh lookye here, 497 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: it's Miami, and Miami wants to move. So I could 498 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: absolutely see Indianapolis moving I actually my mock, I had 499 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: him move into eight with Chicago. Chicago moves up two spots, 500 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: and Chicago ends up taking Quinn Nelson because they're afraid 501 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will take Nelson even though the 502 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: Buccaneers need some help in other spots. I could see 503 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: the Bucks locking in Nelson, and so the Bears are like, hey, 504 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: we gotta go up and get him. The Bears offensive 505 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: line coach Harry Heaston, as a guy we talked to 506 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: Nick Martin about, he coached Nelson. He's now with the Bears. 507 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: Makes for a great fit. So I have him traded 508 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: down with the Bears. I think that Colts, absolutely, without question, 509 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: are gonna trade down. They're gonna trade down, and I 510 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: think it's gonna end up being a defensive player. I 511 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: think it's gonna end up being a linebacker, either Roquan 512 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Smith or Tremaine Emmons, whichever one is maybe still on 513 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: the board. But if Chris Baller is able to take 514 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: number three, which he's already parlaid that into moving down 515 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: only three spots with the Jets, but he got two 516 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: second rounders. I think in the end he got three 517 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: second rounders from the Jets, two this year and no, no, 518 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, two second rounders, one this year and one 519 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: next year, plus the sixth pick plus another pick if 520 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: he can then move down again. And then if he 521 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: moves down anytime in the first round, he could potentially 522 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: get another first round or next year depending on who's 523 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: moving with him, or he could get second rounders this 524 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: year second rounders next year. Baller is building for the 525 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: future when Andrew luck is right that he's got the 526 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: right pieces ready to go at that point, and that's scary. 527 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: So I think the Colts are gonna end up trading 528 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 1: down if he stays there. I think it's gonna being 529 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: Roquan Smith or Tremaine Edmund's gonna outcute yourself too with 530 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: all truth picks. Look at Cleveland. It hasn't happened yet. 531 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: But by numbers, if he says in his mind there 532 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: are eight elite non quarterback prospects. He knows with a 533 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks, he could go to nine, ten, eleven 534 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: and still get a guy that he thinks is elite, 535 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: that they think early. Why did the report get out 536 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: there that they fielded calls for Jacoby Brissette but they 537 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: don't want to trade him, because if I'm there, if 538 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm the cults, I want people to think I want 539 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback, because then they're gonna call me and say, listen, 540 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: I really need that pick. I don't want you to 541 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: take this guy. Or or maybe it's the soft of 542 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: the market in front of them above them to say 543 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: we're not gonna take a quarterback so you can do 544 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: business with us. You know, we don't want to put 545 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: the panic on that the quarterbacks are gonna be gone. 546 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure what the motivation might be, if 547 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: there was any Maybe it was just elite report, but 548 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: maybe they really do like Jacoby Brissette and they feel 549 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 1: like if Luck can't go and they have the right 550 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: players around him, they can win with Brissette. They can 551 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: do that against the tech since apparently not against other 552 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: teams because like that, but it is what it is, 553 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: and I hate it. Yeah, I was a little surprised 554 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: to see that. But the flip side of that is, 555 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't I bet he probably didn't mind putting that 556 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: out there because they wanted to keep Jacoby Brissette, knowing 557 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 1: what happened last year with Andrew Luck that if they 558 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: get rid of him they'd have to start all over 559 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: with another guy. It's probably just best to say, Hey, 560 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: we're gonna stand pat where we are. We're good. The 561 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: one thing that the one thing it said to me 562 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: on that on the other side of it, was he's 563 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: not trading Jacoby Brissette. Does he feel like Andrew Luck 564 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be one hundred percent ready to go? That 565 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: was the way that I looked at Well, that was 566 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: the first thing that hit me. Yeah, and I think 567 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: he's right to keep Brissette right, not trade him. You 568 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: don't want to go with a rookie because look, we 569 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: don't know how Andrew Luck is, but we know this, 570 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: he's not full go yet. And until he's a full 571 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: go for an extended period of time, how can you 572 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: possible if you're the cults, how can you possibly think 573 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: you're okay in quarterback? Of course, you're gonna keep your 574 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: insurance policy right there, and a guy who knows whatever 575 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: system you want to run, you are definitely not gonna trade, 576 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: Jacoby said, unless you don't like them and you want 577 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: to move on or get a rookie in here, or 578 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: get the next guy. And then you're thinking Luck may 579 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: might not be able to go. And that's why I 580 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: think when I think about how championship teams have been 581 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: built over the years, you look at New England. I mean, 582 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: the one thing that you know, Belichick missed on some picks, 583 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: there's no question, but if you looked the last few 584 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: years and you looked at his roster, there was a decent, 585 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: decent portion that roster that was drafted by Bill Belichick. 586 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: They did a good job in drafting. Teams that have 587 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: drafted well have put themselves in position. In Seattle, Seahawks 588 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: put themselves in position to do well because they drafted well. 589 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: And Ballard has always believed in the draft. And that's 590 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: the way that you do it. To draft and feel 591 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: this way gains exactly. All teams feel this way. You 592 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: draft your own, you develop your own, you keep your own. 593 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: That's the way you do it. Well, you're looking at 594 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: what the right now as this they have six and 595 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: then they I think they have four four picks in 596 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: the top forty three of the draft. If he trades 597 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: out of six. Let's say he just goes to eight. 598 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: That was a scenario I posted. If they go just eight, 599 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: the Bears are probably gonna have to give up a 600 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: second round or maybe even a third rounder. You're talking 601 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: about giving the Colts another third rounder. Where a lot 602 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: of people feel like the strength of this draft, and 603 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: this is where it helps the Texans. Some people will 604 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: tell you that the strength of this draft is from 605 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: fifty two hundred. Well, now the Colts get another pick 606 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: in there, started getting three LARTI getting the six and 607 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: those three seconds, My goodness, they're gonna end up with 608 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: another pick. And then if somebody wants to move up 609 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: even further, they're gonna get picks next year as well. 610 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: That's how he's gonna build this thing. And and look, 611 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: next year, there won't be this quarterback. This is why 612 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: I think he'll do it because next year there's not 613 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna be this push for quarterbacks. This is not a 614 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: great quarterback class coming say that. I know you've said that, 615 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: but I said that last year about this class. I said, 616 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: this class is gonna be pretty good and be pretty deep. Right, 617 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty good and it's pretty deep, it is. But oh, 618 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know you said that, and I've heard 619 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: in other places too, But let's just see how they 620 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: do agree happens. You're already know the Holmes and Watson 621 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: crush everybody in this class. I don't know if it's 622 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: gonna be, but we'll find out eventually and we'll see 623 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: how that goes. But you're right, man, the Colts have 624 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: an embarrassment of riches picks. It's just terrible. And look, 625 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to mean to dwell on them, but 626 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: when we talk about the AFC South, which we always 627 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: have done here on Texans Radio for a few years, 628 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: it was the Texans and everybody else, or the Colts 629 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: and the Texans and everybody else, meaning the Titans and 630 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: the Jags. Now it's everybody's a threat, including the Cults. 631 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: If they just hit on all the right notes in 632 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: the draft and whatever they did in free agents today 633 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: and really quick bortles. Mariota and Luck are completely healthy, 634 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: completely healthy. Which one are you more afraid of? I mean, 635 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: there's no question question, right, what are you afraid of? 636 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: With the Titans? Well, I'm honestly, I'm not really afraid 637 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: of the Titans. But what am I afraid of? They 638 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: seem like a solid all around team that can you know, 639 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: if they play good d they're gonna playoff to Mariota. No, 640 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't yet, but the unexpected in a close game. 641 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: First of all, if the Titans can play like the 642 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Jags a little bit more. They don't have Fournet, but 643 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: they've got a powerful running attack and Derrick Henry and 644 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: everybody else in a line that's pretty good. And I 645 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: know I have some injury issues, but if they could 646 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: play like that, then I fear Mariota a lot more 647 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: than Mortals, right, because he could run. You saw what 648 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: he did here. You know the game, his touchdown run. 649 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: It was I was gonna say it was still a game, 650 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: but it was kind of slipping away from the Titans, 651 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: but it kind of gave them a little juice, you know, 652 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: if they were gonna have any hope, that run gave 653 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: it to them. All Right, More coming up, including Baker 654 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: Mayfield job interview, dues and don't Let's talk about that 655 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: next on Texans All Access. Mark vandamer John Harris with 656 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: you in the Hunday Texans Radio Studio here for Texans 657 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: All Access and talking NFL Draft. All right, Johnny Baker 658 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: Mayfield went to interview with the San Diego Chargers, and 659 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: he said the knowledge of playbook section of the interview 660 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: could have gone better. And he said, you know, he's 661 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: learning a lot of playbooks, but he's concentrating on some 662 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: more than others. Because I would imagine the Jets and 663 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: the Browns and those teams, he's more likely to go 664 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: to some Chargers. And he said, my plate is pretty full, 665 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: and the Chargers GM said I would comment on it, 666 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: but my plate is pretty full. So he made a 667 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: little joke about that. So what do you think was 668 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: the proper way to handle this? Because I'll back up 669 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in this way, there's no way you can 670 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: learn every playbook right as of next week, as of 671 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: Thursday night, he's got one playbook he's got to worry 672 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: about right now, he's got to worry about. I guess 673 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: thirty two. Maybe not thirty two. You eliminate certain teams, 674 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: but the Chargers, I suppose they're not one of them 675 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: because they have an aging quarterback in Philip Rivers. Class 676 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: of VO four along with the Giants Eli Manning class 677 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: of VOW four and Roethlisberger's classes VOTE four. But we 678 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: never talk about the Steelers drafting a quarterback. For some reason, 679 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: there's been some talk this real some I guess locally 680 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. You'd have to how much longer for bed. 681 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: But the other two guys hear that a lot more 682 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: nationally than you do. Out of well, Ben's talks about retirement. 683 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: The other two, yet you don't hear much never him never. 684 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't know this, this could be. I mean if 685 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't imagine Lamar Jackson sneaks down there. But you know, 686 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, the sixth quarterback in all of this is 687 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. And I could see I could see the 688 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: Steelers looking at a guy like Mason Rudolph. What about him? 689 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: What does he do well? I think he throws a 690 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: tremendous deep ball. He's very accurate down the field. He 691 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: throws tremendous goal line fades. I the things that he 692 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: does outside the numbers, I think he does pretty well. 693 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: But accuracy ball would sail on him, for work would 694 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: get bad when he gets some pressure. I just his 695 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: game on the intermediate areas would start to crumble. We 696 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: were at the combine we had Pete Prisk go on 697 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: and and Pete and I were talking afterwards and he 698 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: just started, hey, you like this guy, and that'd be like, hey, 699 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: you like this guy, and so we were kind of 700 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: going back and he was so pumping you for homework, 701 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: I know, and so I said, um, he said to me, 702 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: what do you think of Mason Rudolph? And I was like, 703 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: and not the biggest fan, he goes, I know. And 704 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: so I felt good because I hit it off with 705 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: Pete Prisco. But I think it's kind of that feeling. 706 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: And here's the thing if you which I did. I 707 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: watched Bedlam from beginning to end this past year, and 708 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: you watch Baker and then the next series of downs, 709 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: you watch Mason Rudolph, and you can see that there's 710 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: a distinct difference between the throws Baker's making, the accuracy 711 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: with which he's playing, the plays he's making, versus the 712 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: ones that Mason's plank, and you go, that guy's the 713 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: first rounder. That guy can't be on his level. Yeah, 714 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: And that's the way I sort of look at Mason 715 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: from that standpoint. But I could see Mason getting into 716 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: this end of the first round because you get a 717 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: first round pickuld get that fifth year option, and so 718 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: he could go to Sandy or Ago, he'd go to 719 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, he could go to New Orleans, he could 720 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: go to Pittsburgh, And even if he sits for a 721 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: year or two, because you've got that fifth year option, 722 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: you've got some time to figure out whether he's gonna 723 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: be your guy on into the future. You've got some 724 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: extra time. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Mason, 725 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: just due to the dynamics and the mechanics of first 726 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: round contracts, get into that first round. I think he's 727 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: a second rounder. But I could see the Steelers absolutely 728 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: looking at quarterback, but losing Ryan Shazier, that was big 729 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: for that defense. And I think there are a few 730 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: inside linebackers that are in that range. Layton vander esh 731 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: from Boise State, Rashaan Evans from Alabama. I think those 732 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: are guys that would really fit the Steelers and fit 733 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: them very very well. So I wouldn't be surprised to 734 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: see them go with another linebacker. They've got a lot 735 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: of linebackers inside and outside, but after losing Shazier, they 736 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: really got to solidify that side. No Pittsburgh on the 737 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: schedule this year, I'm but you know who's got him 738 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: the Jags. This is what I love. Last first placed team. Yes, 739 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: last year, the Jags had let's see, the Jags had 740 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: Buffalo and I think it was Buffalo and Cleveland. I 741 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: know we were all playing Cleveland because we played AFC North. Yeah, 742 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: but they had they had the Chargers, which was an 743 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: annual game because the Chargers coming on five and eleven, 744 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: so they played the Charges. The Charges end have been 745 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: pretty good and Buffalo Buffalo ended up being pretty good. 746 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: But this year the Jacks have got the Chiefs and Stealers. 747 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: We've got the Broncos and the Browns and the Browns 748 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: and the Browns. The beauty of the schedule is this. 749 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: You get the Browns short week, Monday night football, a 750 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: Monday night football game, you played at home, a tough 751 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: one with the Titans, and then you get a short 752 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: week to play Cleveland at home. Right, I think that's tremendous. 753 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: There are a lot of little I can't call him breaks. 754 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: It's the NFL. Bill O'Brien would kill me. That's not 755 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: a break. Any Cleveland could be good and he's right. 756 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: But I heard what you said. Yeah, but I have 757 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: to say this, if I have to draw it up 758 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: on paper right now, you know you're gonna play on 759 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: Monday in my game at least one. And this is 760 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: the way to do it, right, This is the way 761 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: to do it. You want to have this situation, I mean, 762 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to dwell on the schedule again, but 763 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: I think this is the best schedule maybe they've ever had, 764 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly one of them. As far as the 765 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: way it breaks on paper here in April, it might 766 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: turn out to be completely different. Maybe the Colts are awesome. 767 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: Maybe the Browns, you know, maybe they're a seven win team. 768 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, I look at last year's team, 769 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: a tweak here and there. They win five or six 770 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: games easy. Oh four draft, oh four draft Roethlisberger, Rivers 771 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: and Eli. Yeah. Well to me, amazing to me when 772 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: you look at a class of eighty three, because this 773 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: is the first class since then to have that many 774 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the first round. If they're six, that it's 775 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: only happened in nineteen eighty three, and I can think 776 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: of thirty five years later. Could get six in this 777 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: in this round. And in that draft, of the six, 778 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: three of them were massive home runs, two of them 779 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: complete flops. And then you had Ken Davis, who was 780 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: kind of I'm sorry, Ken O'Brien, who what do you 781 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: see Davis? He was kind of in the middle. He 782 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: was he was serviceable and he went to the Yeah, 783 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: he did a decent job. What was a complete flop? 784 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: Black Ledge? Black Ledge god announcer. Tony Easton is not 785 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: a complete He's not a complete flop. I mean he 786 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: actually black Ledge was a total flop. Easton was probably 787 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: closer to flop than he was a star. You know, 788 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: Bryan was probably closer to starting. Was a flop. But 789 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: when you have Elway, Marino and Jim Kelly, Jim Kelly 790 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: free Hall of Fame. He went to the USFL at 791 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: first played here and went to four Super Bowls, but 792 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: Marino never won one, Kelly never won one. It's funny 793 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: from that draft class two super Bowl wins, two Super 794 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: Bowl wins belonged to Elway. From the OH four class, 795 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: you got Eli with two, and you have Rothlisberger with two. 796 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: You have four super Bowl wins. So there and Rivers 797 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: has never been there. And I once did the Super 798 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: Bowl participation, it's not quite as good because you have 799 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: the four for Kelly, you have Elway with three other 800 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: Super Bowl entrees, if you will, and Marino went to one. 801 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: So those guys went to more, which to me is 802 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: enough to say that that was a better class. But 803 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: this is still pretty impressive what they did in O four. 804 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: The other thing about all right, don't get me started 805 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: on Tony Easton, which you just did. By the way, 806 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: he was the quarterback for the Patriots in eighty five, 807 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: the year they lost to the Bears and the Super 808 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: Bowl badly, and they benched Steve Grogan. Steve Rogan played 809 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: for an injured Tony Easton. They won something like six 810 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: games in a road to get to the playoffs, and 811 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: they benched Steve Grogan. Easton was the first quarterback ever 812 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: to win three playoff games on the road to get 813 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Roethlisberger was the next guy to 814 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: do it. But Easton and the Super Bowl obviously flamed 815 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: out against the forty six defense. It was horrible, and 816 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: Easton the next year they go to the playoffs with 817 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: him and they lose at Mile High to Denver. So 818 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: they had a couple of decent seasons with Easton. But 819 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: what really bothers me about him is he didn't participate 820 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: in the thirty for thirty on that quarterback class. Oh 821 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: that would have been great. They did not get an 822 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: interest with him. He could have see they I don't 823 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: want to say that. I don't want to say that 824 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: they spoke negatively about him. But Ron Meyer did not 825 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: have good things to say. He did not at all. 826 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,959 Speaker 1: But but we were talking about we were talking about 827 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: earlier about the twenty eleven draft, and that draft had 828 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: had four quarterbacks in it as well. That was a 829 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: great quarterback draft on the surface. You got Cam right 830 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: off the bat, who has been phenomen and then Gabert, 831 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: you had Jake Locker, yes, who went at number eight. 832 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: Then the Jaguars, and watching this I forgot the Jaguars 833 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: traded up from sixteen to ten. It took Blank, Gabbert 834 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: and the next pick was J. J. Watt and pick 835 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: number twelve was Christian Ponderer, Gabert, Locker, Cam, Oh my gosh. 836 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: And it was fascinating to watch as a draft. As 837 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: these drafts would unfold, they would talk about what pick 838 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: they expected to see. The one twenty sixteen I was 839 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: watching um Mike may I kept asking for Connor Cook 840 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: and he didn't go to the fourth round. Oh yeah, 841 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: he can't go the fourth round. Started the playoff game 842 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: against this very franchise here, and it did not go 843 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: well for them, went horrible. But you know when you 844 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: have a player like Watted there and everybody passes them up, 845 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a heartbreaker for those teams. Oh 846 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: especially to come back and haunt them four times of years. 847 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean Carolina to do it again, by 848 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: the way, Yes, we do need him to do it again. 849 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: So you look at what this team's been able to 850 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: do with him. You know. Somebody was asking yesterday because 851 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: I had of my golf tournament. By the way, thank 852 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: you everyone for playing at South Shore Harbor presented by 853 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: Insperity and all the you know, Rock Carter, Hyundai helping 854 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: us out, SNH Manufacturing and all the people who helped 855 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: us out for that. I really appreciate it. It was 856 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: great for junior achievement. Somebody asked me, what's your recipe 857 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: for success for the Texans health wise? I said, Watson's 858 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: got to play fifteen sixteen games. You gotta have that, 859 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: and give me two of the three pass rushers. If 860 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: I have to have a wish that was somewhat duable, 861 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: I guess there's no such thing as a duable wish, 862 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: but that's kind of it for me. You gotta keep 863 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback healthy, give me two of the three pass rushers, 864 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: preferably all three, of course, but I know other injuries 865 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 1: are gonna happen, but I gotta have that. Okay. Think 866 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: back to the fateful night in January of twenty seventeen 867 00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: in Foxborough AFC Divisional Playoff round, Right, how are things 868 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: different if Deshaun Watson is your quarterback that night? I mean, 869 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: you know you're probably winning in a blowout that night, 870 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: You're I mean, the defense is playing out of its 871 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: The offense couldn't hang onto the football you had. You 872 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: were down fourteen thirteen first and ten at their forty 873 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: nine in the second quarter and couldn't move it and 874 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: had to punt first to tend at their forty nine 875 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: and had to put did I asked this question? Don't 876 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: get me started, but the point being, New England was 877 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: vulnerable that night and you couldn't take advantage. You couldn't 878 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: do anything with it. John, your point about Watson being 879 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: healthy that's the key. That's John Harris readas stuff on 880 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com, The Harris one hundred. Get ready 881 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: for the Draft radio coverage on Thursday night. That's gonna 882 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: do it for the show tonight. Gallot at Night is next. 883 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: Have a great evening and go Texans.