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Speaker 2: I mean, we found our audience and that might not

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Speaker 2: be the biggest audience, but I feel like it's the.

429
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Speaker 1: Best, the best in the whole wide world.

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Speaker 2: Ansie David says Roder Karen y'all had a best guest,

431
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Speaker 2: thank you. Thank you. Great uncle Bob says a great guest,

432
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah, we're on a street with some good guests.

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Speaker 1: Man.

434
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 2: I mean we always have good guests, really, but you know,

435
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: we don't always have guests because I think being in

436
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 2: the studio really just helps us to be able to

437
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: bounce off each other and then with our schedules, you know,

438
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more coordination to have people on

439
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: the show. But when we do have guests, man, I'm

440
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: always glad when it turns out well like that. Well,

441
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: each scooters be banned from a city. Yes, eventually someone

442
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: will band them, or no, they are here to stay, baby, Karen. Okay,

443
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: Karen's in the twenty nine percent that says they are

444
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: here to stay.

445
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: Too many people making too much money and it's not

446
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: enough punishment. They're here to stay until somebody started cracking

447
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: down on the ass and stay here to stay.

448
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: And seventy percent out say yes, eventually someone will band

449
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: though yeah, I'm wonder man, like somebody gonna have to

450
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: get killed or something. I don't know. Alicia says they

451
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: are already band in Metro Atlanta. Four people have died

452
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 2: so far, and then she said, oh, sorry, I made

453
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: that comment. Fire even heard to show egg on my face.

454
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 2: You know what, Alicia, don't worry about it. Yeah, you

455
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: would think out the four death Oh yeah band right, No,

456
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: like that's.

457
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: Crazy, would think at you would think after flood and

458
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody's dealing with this shit floating everywhere.

459
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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's gonna take somebody like dying and

460
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: ensuing the city suit something. It's gonna take something. I'm surprised,

461
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm lawyer hadn't already popped on this. Maybe you signed

462
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 2: away enough rights in the contractor it's like they ain't

463
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 2: gotta worry about it. But I don't know. It seemed

464
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Speaker 2: like some would happen, you know.

465
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Speaker 3: Uh.

466
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Speaker 2: Then we had episode nineteen forty one Slaveless Plantation History,

467
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Speaker 2: so that woman wanted to.

468
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: You're a plantation tour without slaves.

469
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: It's still so funny.

470
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: It's beautiful plantation slavery free.

471
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Speaker 2: M Lagman says about Ta Ta Oh, it's Mary. Okay.

472
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: Mary says about Ta Ta. I am mostly apathetic towards her,

473
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: but I find the conversation around her and other polarizing

474
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: figures interesting. I think part of it is the inability

475
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: for people to allow for two things exist at once.

476
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: She is annoying, and she also did some cool stuff

477
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: by going to court against that guy who has sorted

478
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: her and by giving money her money to Kesha. It's

479
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: an and not an ore. The older I get, the

480
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: more I'm able to metabolize that things are not black

481
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: and white and land squarely into gray. It is easier

482
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: and makes and maybe makes people feel more righteous to

483
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Speaker 2: pick a side and go hard. Right, Yeah, because man,

484
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure we're gonna talk about it tomorrow at length

485
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 2: because I have so much shit to say about the

486
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: Kaepernick jay Z thing, and I don't know another place

487
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: so I can get it out. That's not that uninterrupted,

488
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: that won't that'll be like this show. So I don't know.

489
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: It might be today, it might be tomorrow, depending on

490
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: what the feedback is. But I have so much to

491
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: fucking say about that shit, and I don't want to

492
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: say it on the internet with round people because they're

493
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: so black and white. And the truth of the matter

494
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: is it does make people feel more righteous, and I

495
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: like and while there's you know, people that are like, well,

496
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: it's because the people demonizing jay Z is too much, y'all.

497
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: They wrong. And then there's the people that's like, you know,

498
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: the people uh that are defending jay Z, they wrong,

499
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I mean, I wouldn't feel extremely about

500
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 2: one way or the other. I don't feel they need

501
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: to defend the dude on this, and I don't feel

502
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: the need to damn him all the way on this either.

503
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: Like it's to me, it's somewhere in the middle, like

504
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: you said, firmly in the gray, it's not. And then

505
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: we clearly need time. We clearly need time. So stuff

506
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: like this makes me so thankful for this platform that

507
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: we built so that we can have the time to

508
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: come here and be like, well, this is what we

509
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 2: fully fleshed out feel with no time limit, no interruptions,

510
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: just us and the audience and the trust that we've

511
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: built over the years, and we can work things out

512
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: because it's not always so black and white, and there's

513
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: a lot of shady little maneuvers going on out here

514
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: where people are like coming to this from certain angles, man,

515
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: and without disclosing too much information, there's just people that

516
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: are really playing the game with social media and shit

517
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 2: for their brands. And that's the best I could put it.

518
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: Like that you know, without without putting out too much anyway,

519
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: it's easier and maybe makes people feel more right just

520
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: pick us out and ghard while it is not that

521
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: sexy to be moderate and reasonable anyway, just my two cents.

522
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Speaker 2: Keep up the good work, thanks Mary, And yeah, I mean,

523
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: like I said, Taylor Swift to me is one of

524
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: those people. I don't really fuck with her music like that.

525
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 2: I don't really I don't even keep up with her

526
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: shit like that. Like every once a while she makes

527
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: the news for some either some activism related ship or

528
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: some i'm putting some music out shit. And I think

529
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: people really want her to be more of an evil

530
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: like this evil white woman. They need her to be

531
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: that so that they can justify hating her that hard.

532
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: And I don't know, she just she don't move to me,

533
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 2: needle for me that way, you know. And that's not

534
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: to say there. You know everybody got they people. I'm

535
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: sure I have somebody if I thought long enough, I'd

536
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: be like, I just don't like that motherfucker. There's nothing

537
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: nigga they can do that I'll you know what I'm saying,

538
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: Like I always be like out here they go on

539
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: some bullshit, you know. So I just don't know who

540
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: mine is off the top of my head. But maybe

541
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: I got one too, you know. But she's a lot

542
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: of people's Taylor Swift. I love her, I hate her,

543
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: or beautiful Gowns, Karen.

544
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: Beautiful gowns.

545
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm in beautiful gowns, although the contrary

546
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: to me wants to go to I love her just

547
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: from all the hate, But I don't know. That's too

548
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: much work, Isn't that sad? I would be a fan

549
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: of support her, but that's a lot of work to

550
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: spread that kind of positivity.

551
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just.

552
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 2: Say, beautiful gowns. Keep not listening to most of their

553
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: music and wishing her the best. Anyway, five percent of

554
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: y'all love her, by the way, white women love her

555
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: like I don't know if y'all seen, but and I

556
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: think black people love these girls. But she got an

557
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: album coming out called Lover and I think it's track twelve.

558
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: She bringing them chicks back, y'all.

559
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: Oh the Dixie Chicks.

560
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: Uh huh? She bringing them Dixie Chicks back, y'all? Mm hm.

561
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: Take Taylor and did it again, went out there and

562
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: got them activistis and said, I know y'all. I know

563
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: the country music people try to take you down, but

564
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: come on back, chicks, Okay, come on back. She is

565
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, she kind of. It's the messages are

566
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: there if you want to see him that she ain't

567
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: the alright princess that people are trying to make her be.

568
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: On both sides like she you know them Dixie Chicks.

569
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: Everybody know what that's saying for, because then Beyonce do

570
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: something with the Dixie Chicks.

571
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: Too, I think since she do so already did or.

572
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah something like like yeah, So I don't know. I'm

573
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: just saying, just saying, she trying to bring them chicks back, y'all.

574
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: Now on the other side of the agenda, if you

575
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: are Taylor hater, Beyonce did the first, so hey, gotmo

576
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: both sides, you know what I'm saying, Like black alt

577
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: if you if you love her, you're a white woman,

578
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: you're like a should break up the chicks back? And

579
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: if you hate her right, uh, the Taylor, I don't

580
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: know what Taylor Swiss fans as it's called. That's how

581
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: much I don't know about this because they gotta have

582
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: a name. I know, they gotta have a name.

583
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: I know to be havel.

584
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: Now, you know, they don't have the half, they don't

585
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: have them highs. That's not how it works with them starlets.

586
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: Maybe having ship like the kittens or the you know

587
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: they oh okay, yeah, you know they have them different

588
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: my animals or whatever the fuck white people to the caprice,

589
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: the caprice, my my Kakis is here anyway, beautiful gowns

590
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: eighty five percent. That's where I'm at. Lakita says, I

591
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: have three to four Taylor songs on my phone and

592
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: I still cackle when I think about her Award moment.

593
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: Maybe it's evil, but it's true. I guess I'm in

594
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: different overall, but I can appreciate anyone's growth. Yeah, I

595
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: mean listen objectively, as fucked up as Kanye was for

596
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: doing that. It was money.

597
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm here for the jokes.

598
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, it was a meme. It was

599
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's honestly kind of fucked up. Yeah,

600
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: because it was so funny that I know, for me

601
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: as a person that didn't really know Taylor Swift like

602
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: that at the time, I was I was literally out

603
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: out here like, man, fuck that girl. That shit was funny.

604
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: You know, but I just don't want to ride that

605
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: feeling forever cause it's like, yeah, I can step back

606
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: and go, dog, you worked to get this award and

607
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: to get this, you know, this recognition, and I know

608
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: if it was somebody I was a fan of and

609
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: that shit happened, I would be fucking seven thirty hot up.

610
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

611
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: I would be hot to try it, Okay, because.

612
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what goddamn think about Big, but it's

613
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: still fucking because he won that award, of.

614
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Right, let that be somebody I'm rooting for and that's

615
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: their first time really being recognized on the stage and

616
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: all this shit, and then some jaz ass grabs the

617
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: award and talks about how somebody else deserved it and

618
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: they're drunk, and I definitely would be like fuck that

619
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: person and all this. So I can't even front like

620
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: people being black is so great, but it's you know,

621
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: it's such an easy trap to just be like, I'm

622
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: supporting blackness on this, because that's what I think that

623
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: a lot of the hatred for Taylor Swift Starter was

624
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: just that white people were so mad at Kanye and

625
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: he is black and so we but you know, without

626
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: knowing his future that he would be a Trump supporting person. Eventually,

627
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: we as a collective unit where a lot of us

628
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: were like, I'm gonna protect this black man because the

629
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: bar is very low, you know. And in hindsight, it's

630
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: like that was actually probably pretty fucked up, and I

631
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised to a lot of that kind of

632
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: contributed to Kanye's like, you know, I'm invincible ass like

633
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: mentality and the world is against me and you know,

634
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: all this shit because those people that really made arguments

635
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: for him, I mean way past the point of him

636
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: being like kind of out there.

637
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. And it's one of those things where for

638
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: like I said, for me, and the thing is for

639
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: me when I say fuck, it ain't even really about him.

640
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: It's about the people. It's about them allowing him to win.

641
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: What I was like, who what nobody is? Uh, he's

642
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: not number one on nobody's chart, but he won. Like

643
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: that's where my anger comes from for that particular sit

644
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: right back.

645
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but nobody got up there on the stage

646
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: for that, you know, but yeah, it was it created. Look,

647
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: race is the number one fucking like current in this country,

648
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: and so he hit the third rail with that, because

649
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: it really did become a black versus white moment, and

650
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: it turned a lot of white people into like we

651
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: can finally say how we feel about Kanye West and

652
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: these niggers. And then they also had a white woman

653
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: they could protect, which read a book the history of

654
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: fake protecting. The chivalry of white women has been used

655
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: as so much racist dog whistle in this country is

656
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: it is literally like the undercurrent of everything. And so yeah,

657
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: he stepped right on that third rail and as black

658
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: people was like, we had to protect and defend him,

659
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: and as white people, they were like, we gotta get

660
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: this nigger. And it was just bad. And I think

661
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: that was years and years and years ago, and we're

662
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: still caught up in it today and there's still people

663
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: that defend Kanye West now, and I think it's reflex

664
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: at this point, Like you know, like most black people

665
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: have abandoned him after Trump. That was the moment when

666
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: they said, Okay, I have to admit this is too far.

667
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: But a lot of there are still black people who

668
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: are like em. Like I was watch The south Side

669
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: the other day, great comedy show on Colviedy Central, very funny.

670
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: You guys can I think he can might be on

671
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: themand it's so funny, y'all. But there's the last episode

672
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: I watched where the Jordans came out. Someone brought up

673
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: Kanye and this is the show takes place in Chicago,

674
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 2: and the person that was driving the van or whatever

675
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: in the scene was like because he was like, I

676
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: could be the next Kanye West, and she was like,

677
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: fuck Kanye West, and the other dude in the truck

678
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: like looked at her like what she was like, I

679
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: hate that man, but I love that man. I just

680
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: want to do everything he says and protect them, but

681
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: also just want to like kill him. I don't know.

682
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: That's how people feel asun confusing. I got all these

683
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: emotions I don't know what to do with.

684
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: It's like he just triggers everything in blackness. At the

685
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: same time Taylor, Monique says, Taylor's trying nowadays, and I

686
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Plus some music isn't all that bad anymore? Question, dude.

687
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: The country music people designate her as country because she's

688
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: far more popped than anything. I think she hasn't really been.

689
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: You know what, I don't follow that closely enough. I

690
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: was just about to tell you something that I don't know.

691
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't don't it seem like they don't

692
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: really fuck with her on the same level. But I

693
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe the Every Country Music Award, they're still

694
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: out there giving her, you know, her things, But I

695
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: don't know. It feels like she went pop a long time,

696
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: came at the nineteen eighty nine.

697
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: I just don't know how that's the furstest one country.

698
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: She can get, and then not just at the nineteen

699
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: eighty nine, at the nineteen eighty nine, that album, and

700
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: then her like activism. It's I think it's too much

701
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: for that country music crowd. Man, We'll see they do.

702
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 2: We'll see. You know, these niggas don't even like little

703
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 2: nas xs. The Dixie Chicks like her being like yeah,

704
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: so vote Democrat. I am not with sexual harassment. You know.

705
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: I love LGBTQ people and I'm out here trying to

706
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: start petitions to support them. And shit, if you hold

707
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: any level of bigotry, the same people that don't like

708
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: Beyonce doing daddy lessons are probably not fucking with you

709
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: if you if you're not upholding that shit. So and

710
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: when she was, when she wasn't as outspoken and stuff.

711
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: It just helped. I think people just fill in the blanks.

712
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do when you don't speak.

713
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 2: So they were like, oh, yeah, yeah, she was sad

714
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: and clearly she does not seem to be. And that

715
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: doesn't mean she woke or she's a Black Lives Matter

716
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: any but she's just not the person that they probably

717
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: wanted her to be. Episode nineteen forty two, Golden's eleven

718
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: We Have. That was a good episode. We had a

719
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: lot of random thoughts and talk matd Sandy says regarding

720
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: the Miya Khalifa story. She's currently working for Rooster Teeth,

721
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: creators of Red and Blue, rwb Y and Ginlock on

722
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: their sports podcast sports Ball. Before I got access to

723
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: Balls Deep and Unanimous Decision podcast with movie Trail to review,

724
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: Sportsball was a solid entry in my sports podcast catalog.

725
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: From the episodes I've seen in her, she's a solid

726
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: and charismatic presenter. Whatever show she goes on, Yeah, I

727
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: don't doubt it. Man. She used to have a podcast

728
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: with Gilbert Arenas. I don't know what happened with that,

729
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: because I think Gilbert does it by herself now. Maybe

730
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. I never listened Gil's such a troll.

731
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: But but yeah, no, she's uh she I think at

732
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: this point she became infamous and well known because of porn,

733
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: but you could just tell by them scenes that's not

734
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: where her heart was. Like no, no, God, that sounds

735
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: so shady, but I mean it's not. It's literally not shade,

736
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: just that you know how it is. Guys, She's like, Oh,

737
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: this is just a job, you know what I mean.

738
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: You can deal with somebody that actually enjoys it when

739
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: they or at least pretend.

740
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, like some people, good sex work is a job

741
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: some people. Yeah, the same way you can watch a

742
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: basketball game, even if you've never played basketball in your life.

743
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: You go, oh, that guy's good, real real good at basketball.

744
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: And this guy he needs a check, you know what

745
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Like he he couldn't help that he was

746
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: born seven feet tall. Okay, he just need to check.

747
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 2: Like I get like, that's kind of what mea Khalifa

748
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: was doing. So anyway, Jennka says, when Karen said my

749
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: friend is having a hard time, he stuck between a

750
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: rock and a hard place. I I'm literally dead. I'm

751
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: writing this from the afterlife. Karen never changed. Nah, that

752
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: was great. Karen's are killing it, Sopher King says, not

753
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: the whole ship. Yeah, I was wondering that people was

754
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: gonna pick up that whole ship joke. I know some

755
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: people found as through bow, so y'all get it. The

756
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: pole was Have you ever stolen food by taking it

757
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 2: home from a buffet Karen, not.

758
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: Me personally, but my family. Yes, I guess, I guess

759
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: in conjunction. I'm I'm a corporate so yes.

760
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: M I have definitely helped my Yes, I absolutely. My

761
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: aunt told me what to do and I did it, So.

762
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: It was more important than than probably that cussing out

763
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna get it.

764
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: I didn't. Also, I feel like they'd be looking at

765
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: it like listen and we get cod stealing. They can't

766
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: put a kid in prison. Have you ever stolen food? Yes?

767
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: Sixty four percent, No, thirty six percent comments mass Sayday

768
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: says I used to take containers and gallon bags to

769
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: my to the AT and T cafe, especially on fried

770
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: Chicken Friday my senior year. I load up and feed

771
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: everyone in my design lab on one meal plan. Oh, nigga,

772
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: that's the other thing. Yes, Oh, I stole food from

773
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: the cafeteria and motherfucking college. So yeah, yeah, I'm on

774
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: the list for sure, on the list. Yeah, not just

775
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: my aunt telling me, I mean, but well out look,

776
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: I was taught as a young child to steal, and

777
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: what choice did I have?

778
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: Uh?

779
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, I definitely was getting over on them niggas

780
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: at the.

781
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: Hand for this shit anyway. Yeah, my nigga, what you're

782
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: gonna do with the leftover was doing trash.

783
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: Take this shit out of my meal? Playing hey on,

784
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: no traywing who says, nigga, don't be rude? Of course

785
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: we stolen food from a buffet. L shout out to

786
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: Ryans and Quincy's Alicia said, shout out to the Gold

787
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 2: to Kara. The first time I saw my grandma take

788
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: a zip loop back out first and loaded of a

789
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: fried chicken, I was shocked in a maze. Right, that's

790
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: the other thing. They don't tell you they're doing it.

791
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: So you're just sitting here with your aunt or your grandma, what,

792
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: having a nice conversation and eat a chicken leg, just

793
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: enjoying your meal, and you, as and a kid, you

794
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: not prepared, so you, like grandmama what you're doing. But

795
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: if you'll shut the hell up, I taste out your mouth.

796
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: Because you know, kids something loud like like like they

797
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: don't have no boundaries.

798
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: Like I just became a fucking accessory to motherfucking conspiracy

799
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: the robbery.

800
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: But a grandma, you stilling If you don't shut the

801
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: hell up, I'm not to test out your mouth.

802
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: Boy, right, you gonna want some of these roads. We

803
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: get home and you I guess so, Phil g says,

804
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: just telling them you are younger or the age that

805
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: eats free count as well. Oh nigga, come out absolutely count.

806
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah that was another hustle. And you know when you're

807
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: a kid, you can't wait to be older, like that's

808
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: your whole thing, is I want to be.

809
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. You get there and you'd be like,

810
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: this ain't all the script to be.

811
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: I want to be my age or older. I want

812
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: to grow up. Growing up means I get access to

813
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: more things. I'm gonna you know, so when you are young,

814
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: Lord knows you cannot wait to say you are above

815
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: that fucking age for the kids to eat for free?

816
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: What be bold, like I don't seen your narre kids

817
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: fuck it up, But I'm mama, I'm ten.

818
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: Right about to get a whole punch in your chest.

819
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: Your mama got a lot of that. Woman knowing she

820
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: lying you know, well, you know, kids eat free as

821
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: long as say ten or less. I'm ten and a half,

822
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: ten and three quarters. I'll be like, oh, okay, I'll

823
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 2: ring you up for a dope. He he doesn't know nothing,

824
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: but he is not ten and three quarters my birthday

825
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: with yesterday. Boy, you are nine, like I told you

826
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: in the car, come on and if you want to

827
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: make it to eleven, you gonna be nine, if you

828
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, okay, I guess I'm nine.

829
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: I was.

830
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: I was mistaken, ma'am.

831
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: Because she got to play a dope price. You gonna

832
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: get adpter cussing out and when they get back, she

833
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: was like, you don't even eat adult work for food.

834
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 2: That's why your kids grow up and can't count kids

835
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: that you've ad at math because their parents aren't making

836
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: them lie every day. Boy, you are eight at the movies,

837
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: but I'm supposed to be. I got a bed you

838
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: ate today. You're sitting on my lap too, right, we're

839
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: saving this money.

840
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: We are saving this money.

841
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: You got, you got adult ticket money. You know.

842
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: You'd be like, no, don't you want to see this movie? Yes,

843
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: well your ass is eight today.

844
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: Nigga, you got adopt buffet money. I didn't know you

845
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: paid bills. You're gonna eat off my plate? Okay, one plate?

846
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: Please be mad as shit. Lastly was episode nineteen forty three,

847
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: Acts of Ten, Acts of Love, and Great Uncle Bob

848
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: says this NFL jay Z thing is so interesting. Cap

849
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: nelt during the anthem to protest police brutality and racism.

850
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: What can the NFL do to stop? Or kur tell

851
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: that they're gonna ask officers to stop killing unarmed black

852
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: folks in exchange for some box seats at the fifty.

853
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: The owners and some fans don't like players kneeling because

854
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: to them, it's disrespecting the anthem. Never mind Cap coming

855
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: out saying that he consulted with a military vet who

856
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: said the knee was more respectful in that just sitting

857
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: than just sitting on the bench. But the correct answer

858
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: for the NFL would be don't do the anthem. But

859
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: that's not gonna happen because the check that check the

860
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: Department of Defense wrote to the NFL for them to

861
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 2: put basically a military commercial being cashed long ago. Well,

862
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: you know what's funny is they actually canceled that contract

863
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: like they used to have the flyovers and all the shit. Now.

864
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if they don't. I don't know if

865
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: they still don't do those. But for I have not

866
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: watched an NFL game like a actual like sit down.

867
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: Honest to god, NFL game is so fucking long. I

868
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: don't know that rizzone.

869
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: I just see kickoffs and all right, utdown, down, touch down.

870
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: But what I heard was that that they don't show

871
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: the anthem on TV anymore anyway, so you don't see

872
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: the players kneeling that still do knil. So yeah, so

873
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: I have no idea how what they're doing currently. I

874
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: just know the only time I know that people kneil

875
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: is when I see someone talk about it on Twitter

876
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: or someone you know, interviews Eric Reid or something. If

877
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: they had come out with a partnership with jay Z

878
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: Rock Nation instead of firing Cap, it might have gone

879
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: down way smoother. They could have reshaped the narrative to

880
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: them actually trying to do something instead of stepping their

881
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: feet because Cap won't fall in line like a good boy.

882
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: The lawsuit they've settled proved to me that they colluded

883
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: in blackball cap and they will never rehire him.

884
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Oh, he never coming back. I don't think he was

885
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: coming back.

886
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: I would really wonder if he wants to come back.

887
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he does, you know, that would be

888
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: my question. I wonder if he wants to come back.

889
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: But I don't know much about him because the dude

890
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: doesn't talk true. I mean, everything I've heard is mostly

891
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: projections because he stopped talking about three years ago. You know,

892
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: he tweets out something every once in a while. He

893
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: retweets people like like Eric Reid or his girlfriend. But

894
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: he don't do interviews. He don't got a podcast, he

895
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: hasn't written a book. He I mean, the only thing

896
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: we know for sure is that he would he seems

897
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: to want to still play in the NFL. That that's

898
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: the really the only thing we still we still kind

899
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: of know. And like I said, even with that, he

900
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: could just be like, I'm going to ride this out

901
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: and I'm low key I don't want to be in

902
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: the NFL no more. But this is what people know

903
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: me as And it's better to be a martyr, uh

904
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: this way than to be on the field. Get my

905
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: brains knocked in on these on some bad team or

906
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: get back in the league and don't be as good

907
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: as people, you know, think I should be. And and

908
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: then that's the and it's also some shit, you know,

909
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: and not playing for I mean, at this point two

910
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: three years, I could see him accumulating some rust and stuff.

911
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: You know. I think, at least on my side, the

912
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: one thing that is immutable is that he should be

913
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: playing in the NFL, or at least had an opportunity to.

914
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: And that is pretty much. That's pretty much the dividing

915
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: line for most people. And it's sad that the the

916
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: It's sad that that became the only thing that this

917
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: has become about. You know, it's not about social justs.

918
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: It's not about making the NFL a more socially aware company.

919
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: It's not about uh, it's not about any of this stuff.

920
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: It's not even about people have turned the NFL into

921
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 2: this evil corporation. But it was that before the Kaebernick

922
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: like Kaebernicks is another example. But it was everything people

923
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: claim not to like about it existed before Kaepernick said

924
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: it did anything. So you know, I'm glad that we've

925
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: been talking about this, especially if people listening to Balls

926
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: Deep because I feel vindicated about the things I said

927
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: from jump and I feel like, uh, I feel like

928
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: when the owners came out there and kneeled with players

929
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: that weekend, that ended what Neely meant agreed, and everyone

930
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: else has kind of been slow to catch up, you know,

931
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: Like I said it then, I was like, yeah, this

932
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: shit now means it's this is now about the egos

933
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: of rich men versus wealthy men, and you not going

934
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: to tell me what to do. And that was that

935
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: was like everything in America that was Donald Trump's doing

936
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: when he came into the narrative. It just it just

937
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: made things completely about like culture, personality and pride, and

938
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: sadly it hasn't really been It hasn't moved past that.

939
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: And whether Kaepernick gets a job or not, it's the

940
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: only thing that matters to most people at this point.

941
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: You know, they can catch it in racial talk and

942
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: all the shit. It's all way riding, it's all cloud

943
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: chasing shit. It's just if he gets a job, it's cool.

944
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: That's it, you know. And whether what jay Z is

945
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: doing we don't know yet, Like I mean, we know

946
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: the face value of what he said, but we don't

947
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: know what the fuck no specifics were dropped. How the

948
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 2: fuck he's gonna do it? I don't know. Then there's

949
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: all kinds of speculation about him becoming some type of

950
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: NFL owner or something, and then there's people speculating on

951
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: that speculation of this means he gonna get capped back

952
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: in the league. And then won't y'all be like nigga,

953
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. What I do know is it's a

954
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: bunch of rich people, problems, all of them, including cabinet

955
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: they already and none of them broke. People calling jay

956
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: Z a capitalist. Everyone involved is a capitalist. Just because

957
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: one person of capitalism is based on activism doesn't mean

958
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: he not a capitalist them. Nike checks is checks. They

959
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: are paid out to cash. You know what I'm saying.

960
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: Like the idea of like having to become completely beholding

961
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: to one party in this or your coon seems it

962
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: seems like another day on Twitter. That's what it seems like.

963
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: See your routine at this point, man, And I'm just

964
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: willing to wait and see, like if there's more to

965
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: any of this shit, and if there's not, then you know,

966
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 2: jay Z gonna get fried. He getting fried already, which

967
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 2: is the whole point, right, so he getting fried already.

968
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: And if there is more to it, and it's evidence

969
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: to the contrary, I don't expect people to change their

970
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: minds because people don't do that anymore. People tell you your

971
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: coon and then that's it, like one thing and everything

972
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: you've done before this is trash. And I don't like

973
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: living in that type of environment, and so I try

974
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: not to promote it. Everybody's not one one decision. I

975
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: disagree with to being like a piece of shit. And furthermore,

976
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: when it comes to this the insolo calling someone a capitalists,

977
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers don't actually have any rules. It's kind of

978
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: like neoliberal. When you don't like somebody, you say that

979
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: about them, right, But all your phase quote unquote it's

980
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: capitalists too, right. I mean if we're just saying the

981
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: pursuit of money and all this shit to the you know,

982
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: like there's money over everything. Nigga, what do you megan?

983
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 2: Is Styleion rap about? What do Cardi rap about?

984
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: You know?

985
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: What does Beyonce be talking about? You know, like Beyonce

986
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: had Holly and fucking Chloe singing the opening song at

987
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 2: the super Bowl last year. You know, like we Rihanna,

988
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: We people go up for Rihanna Fency lingerie, how her

989
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: net word, her album sells. She's dating a billionaire that

990
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: somehow is a win for her fans and for her

991
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 2: and for everybody black and shit, we pick and choose

992
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: when the fuck it's bad to go get this money.

993
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: You know, I saw people be like, black capitalism isn't

994
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: the things the it doesn't matter. I'm like, I don't know,

995
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 2: mattal CJ. Walker don't matter. We stopped teaching her in

996
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: the black history and come on, like when like Black

997
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: Wall Street that was just torn down for no reason. Right,

998
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: there's no threat to empower black people having money in

999
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: a society that really ultimately only listens to the money,

1000
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: whether it's the absence of the money via boycott or

1001
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: or or or the accumulation of money making them be like, well,

1002
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: I guess I gotta respect this nigga. You know, like

1003
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 2: reading I B Well's this, this biography, man is helping.

1004
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 2: It's helping me put a lot of things in the focus.

1005
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 2: And I want don't want to participate in debates that

1006
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: are oldest time. And that's what a lot of this

1007
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: shit is. Whether we should try to be included by

1008
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: our way itself into these institutions and try to change

1009
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: them from within side, or whether the only way to

1010
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: fix things is to agitate from the outside and if

1011
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: you do anything on the inside, your compromise well. To

1012
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 2: be honest, both methods have worked and failed, right, Neither

1013
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: one of them was such a great solution that it

1014
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: solved everything. I said. Like, and most of the people

1015
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: that advocate for a lot of the shit, they don't

1016
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 2: know history, don't read history, and don't want to learn history.

1017
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: They feel a certain way, which is something we've had

1018
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: universally throughout the existence of blackness in America. But your

1019
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: feelings aren't the same thing as knowledge, you know what

1020
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like there's a there's a knowledge of I

1021
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: know how I feel, but then there's knowledge of like

1022
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 2: oh this was tried before this, Oh this argument existed,

1023
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: so I guess we're doing it today. Like for example, example,

1024
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: like with the World's Fair Chicago World's Fair, right, you

1025
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: have Frederick Douglas and I to B. Wells. And for

1026
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: people that are pretty versed in that level that era history,

1027
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: you know that, like at that World's Fair, the I

1028
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: to B. Wells and Frederick Douglas handed out pamphlets or

1029
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: they had a you know, they had people hand out pamplets.

1030
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 2: The beginning of it is translated to like I think French,

1031
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: Dutch and something else. But they you know, they would

1032
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: need to raise five thousand dollars to make these pamplets.

1033
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: They didn't get all the money they needed. They couldn't

1034
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: get it all translated in time. They're working on big deadline.

1035
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: I to w Wells is going like she went on

1036
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: like a European trip to talk about anti lynching at

1037
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 2: the time. Frederick Douglas, who's like older at this point

1038
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: in DC, he's also tasked with running like this what

1039
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: do you call it? He was also he had a

1040
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 2: presentation at the fair that he's also going to be running.

1041
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: So neither one of them had truly dedicated the time

1042
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: to make this thing happen, right, But they still got

1043
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 2: it done. They still got with the help of newspapers

1044
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: and some money gathering and all this and other activists,

1045
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 2: they got this pamphlet written. The pamphlet was simply about

1046
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: the fact that the World's Fair, which is supposed to

1047
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: be this international event of America, saying, hey, look at

1048
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 2: the American contributions to the world well, guess what, but

1049
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: they didn't have anything black. They purposely chose not to

1050
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: include black people. This is coming off of the like

1051
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,959
Speaker 2: twenty five years after the end of the Civil War

1052
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: and all this stuff. Right, so they don't, you know, America,

1053
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: North South, whatever the fuck is still like negroes inferior

1054
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: to white people. And if we talk about the negro

1055
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: we gotta talk about slavery, we gotta talk about no, no, no, no,

1056
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: this is about the good things. We whites want to

1057
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: just talk about the positives. Right, And so there were

1058
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: two schools of thought. Ida B. Wells and Frederick Douglas

1059
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: were working on something else. Essentially was like less boycott,

1060
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: no black people attend. We throw out these pamphlets to

1061
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: let people know, hey, they are leaving us out of

1062
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: this event. Okay, that's one school of thought. The other

1063
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: school of thought was, and it wasn't just Frederick Douglas,

1064
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: but Frederick Douglas and other activists said, no, let's do

1065
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: a day of jubilee. And it was slightly offensive, not

1066
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: slightly highly offensive to Ida B. Wells, probably because it

1067
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: was that day that they did. They jubilee was also

1068
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: the third year anniversary of the day that like three

1069
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: of her friends were well, one of her friends and

1070
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: two other black men were hung in Memphis, which was

1071
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: like the thing that really started her like not being

1072
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: able to come back home, Like it's a big part

1073
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: of why she couldn't come back home. So or come

1074
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: back to Memphis. So they want to have a dead jubilee.

1075
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna have celebrations, they're gonna sing like church music

1076
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: and shit the show, like, hey, this is what y'all

1077
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: are missing out on by not inviting us. And then

1078
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: of course Frederick Douglas also has a speech and a

1079
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: presentation that day. Black women activists are speaking at the fair,

1080
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: like because they were able to get a small section

1081
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: in the women's section of the fair, like like just

1082
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: you know, totally marginalized, double standard bullshit we were dealing with, right,

1083
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: And so I'd of course hated that, you know, Frederick

1084
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: Douglas was doing this speech. She hated that he was

1085
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: a supportive of the day of Jubilee. And I think

1086
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: it's an older man, uh, Frederick Douglass as older and

1087
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: you know, quote unquote wiser and having been around the

1088
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: activism since activism and was activism. I mean, this man

1089
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: was a man who escaped the freedom and then made

1090
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: something of himself. Right, So Frederick Douglass is there and

1091
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: he's like, I support both causes. I support your boycott

1092
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: and I'm helping with your pamphlet. And he was a

1093
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: big reason that she was able to elevate her station

1094
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: because he supported her anti lynchion campaign and her and

1095
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: and got her voice out there, like held events and

1096
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: stuff for you know, not that she couldn't have done

1097
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff, but she was younger, she didn't

1098
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: have a connection. I'd have had a hard time making friends.

1099
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: She really perceived a lot of slights from like you

1100
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: say some shit tieways. To her, it was fuck you

1101
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: for life, right, So it was you know, it's hard

1102
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: being friends. Making friends is a huge part of building coalitions.

1103
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: Even if you're right, even if you're brilliant, if you

1104
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: can't make friends, it's almost useless. You know. She was

1105
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: almost forgotten the history because of that, right because people's

1106
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: people that work with her didn't mention her in their

1107
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: autobiographies and shit, Like women's groups that she helped found

1108
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: that she was significant and raising the station of they

1109
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, I'm not, No, don't I don't beautiful gowns, right,

1110
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: So so so the day of the jubilee, it's also

1111
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: very there's like this rumor going in that white people

1112
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: are gonna serve watermelon too, so they'll have give watermelon

1113
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: these black people, and of course Ida is incensed, like,

1114
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: so you niggas are gonna be singing fucking church songs,

1115
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: walking around skipping and eating fucking watermelon and shit, like

1116
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: for real, that's what we that's our contribution as black people.

1117
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: Because back then and still to this day, but even

1118
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: more so back then, respect the things we call respectability

1119
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: politics then were revolutionary at the time. You got to

1120
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: consider it's only twenty five years into quote unquote freedom.

1121
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: You have people being lynched at a much higher rate

1122
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 2: every year, just more and more Black people being lynched

1123
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: and shit. Right, so the things that we would consider

1124
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: like I to be wells to be like you know,

1125
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: like now we would be like, oh God, this bitch

1126
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: just pick me, like that's how we always feel about

1127
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: her now. But back then, it was like, no, we

1128
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: need to show these people that were not savages. We're

1129
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: not apes, we're not coons, We're not skipping around eating watermelon,

1130
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 2: singing songs, shucking and jobving, No, we are respectable men

1131
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: and women in suits and looking fine and well mannered

1132
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: and all this stuff right, like that was you know,

1133
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: a big part of activism back then was reclaiming the

1134
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 2: image because so much of what the imagery of black

1135
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: people was and pop culture was the sambo, right the

1136
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: So she was pissed and she was like, yeah, so

1137
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: I got other plans. I would not be the day

1138
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: of your speech or the jubilation day. Fuck them right,

1139
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: And she was younger. You know, young young people are

1140
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: very like when you're young, it's a lot more black

1141
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: and White's a lot more black and white. Everything's fucked up,

1142
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: everything's the worst, And you're the first person to ever

1143
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 2: feel this way of thinking this shit right, And when

1144
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: you're older, you seen enough to be like, these motherfuckers

1145
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: will get over it, or you know, yeah they might

1146
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: be mad, but I feel like this is worth it.

1147
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: So anyway, what happened after there were black women that

1148
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 2: spoke that Frederick Douglas supported, that gave impassion cases for

1149
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: black women specifically, which I don't know it retroactively, it

1150
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,959
Speaker 2: makes me so frustrated and upset with the black people

1151
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: that say feminism is this invention of white women and

1152
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: about destroying the black men and all the shit, because

1153
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: if you just read, there have been black women from

1154
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: inception that have been like the real feminists that have

1155
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: spoken specifically for the causes of black women in ways

1156
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: that nobody would advocate for them, not even black men.

1157
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: It's like if they didn't speak it for themselves, it

1158
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't be talked about, you know anyway. So they give

1159
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: their speech. But then Frederick Douglas gets his speech, and

1160
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: this is probably Frederick Douglas's most famous speech, you know,

1161
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 2: and he was older, so people were being like, you know,

1162
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: this is like the lions lash roar and all this shit,

1163
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: and he went the fuck in on America like he

1164
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: was just like, you know, God, bless America, Goddamn America.

1165
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 2: Like he was out here on some like like these

1166
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: amendments ain't for niggas, like they love like y'all.

1167
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: Here just even shooting all the shot.

1168
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all up in this motherfucker party in America, Like

1169
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: look at all our shit. You know, they don't even

1170
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: want niggas here, you know, Like and everybody was expecting

1171
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,959
Speaker 2: like some kind of tepid, half assed, you know kind

1172
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: of speech from him to be like, we're just so

1173
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: thankful to be here. We don't want to mess up

1174
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: the party and show y'all negroes is grateful now now

1175
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 2: see white people. We know he gave the opposite speech,

1176
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 2: was like, man, fuck these people, like this shit is

1177
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: all a sham. Yes they talk good, but they don't

1178
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 2: fucking do good, so fuck what they're about, right, And

1179
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: he did that by being on the inside of this

1180
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: fucking thing. So all this time people were like this

1181
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: sellout ass nigga, come, you know what I'm saying, Like

1182
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: I can't. Wow. Really that's your boy, You're gonna give

1183
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: speeches up to wow. You know. Plus he had a

1184
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: white wife at the time, he had married, and so

1185
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: people was like shaving the fuck out of his wife, y'all.

1186
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: The way they tried, the way they mother fucking tried

1187
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: this nigga, My god, y'all, they tried, like to his face,

1188
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: to her face, like newspapers writing about his wife, like

1189
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 2: like uh. And these other activist black men we support

1190
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,959
Speaker 2: because they are not married to a in secretary shit

1191
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: like that shade. They are married to colored women of

1192
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: standing and prominent shit like doctors and shit. This Nigga

1193
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: married a white secretary, y'all. All, Like the shade that

1194
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: was in this in this book is so worth it.

1195
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: But anyway, so after he does the speech, and the

1196
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: news of the speech, of course takes a day or so,

1197
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: and then the paper's printed up and it makes his

1198
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: way to Ida, who you know, was sitting this shit out.

1199
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: She says, I went straight out to the fair and

1200
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: begged his pardon for presuming, in my youth and inexperience

1201
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: to criticize him for an effort which had done more

1202
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: to bring our cause to the attention of the American

1203
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,959
Speaker 2: people than anything else which had happened during that fair

1204
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: or during the fair. Essentially to say, the amount of

1205
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: animosity that happens between people trying to take different paths

1206
01:04:54,200 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: to the same goal has been forever. It has always existed.

1207
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: So that's what I think about with Cap and jay Z.

1208
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: I do not think jay Z is now suddenly this

1209
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: different guy who you know didn't do the Khalib Broader documentary,

1210
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: didn't do the Trayvon Martin documentary, is going to do

1211
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: the im matel documentary that wrote for forty four or

1212
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if he writes, but you know what

1213
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying, made four. I don't think the story of

1214
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: O J to y'all niggas quote and love to put

1215
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 2: that gift up, that gift up of him going okay

1216
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: whenever y'all see some coon shit. I don't think he

1217
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 2: suddenly turned into just this like fuck activism, I'm a

1218
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 2: cone today.

1219
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 3: Shit.

1220
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: I don't. And maybe he did, and more evidence will

1221
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: come out to that and eventually I'll be like, damn,

1222
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: it's so sad. But jay Z is really just this

1223
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 2: coon ass nigga, you know. So that's a big part

1224
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: of this to why I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm waiting

1225
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: on this. I don't need to be the first. Like

1226
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: I was listening to a podcast today or to do

1227
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 2: was like, you know, jay Z coonery and buffoonery and

1228
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 2: all this shit, and I'm like, okay, you know, and

1229
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: the podcast I listened to that dude was Hominge with

1230
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 2: Searan M King, like nigga Searn King as much shit

1231
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: as people saying about him and and his like like

1232
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: it's just everyone has to have the hottest take right

1233
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: the right out the grease, eat this hot tape, you know,

1234
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: And I just feel like, you know, and maybe it's

1235
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: because reading makes me feel like I pontificate more. I

1236
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: take it like because the method of the media that

1237
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: you're reading is slower, right, You can't rush reading, really,

1238
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: and so much of the media we get now is

1239
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: all this ship where it's like reality TV, right, snap,

1240
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: judgment right away? What's the most bombastic thing that can

1241
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: happen right off the gate?

1242
01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: Uh?

1243
01:06:59,080 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: Social media?

1244
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: Right?

1245
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: Fo one hundred and forty characters, snappy, witty retort, take

1246
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: something out of context and discrapulate on that. Like, a

1247
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: lot of the stuff that is rewarded today with attention

1248
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: is very and maybe it's always been this way, but

1249
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: it's very much the hot take and the quickest take,

1250
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 2: speed and spectacle is what it's about now, right, So

1251
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: to see so to read this stuff, you know, and

1252
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: this isn't the I mean, I've read more this year.

1253
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: I read a lot this year, right, So to be

1254
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: reading this stuff and to see the context of history

1255
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: that it's in, and the fact that our people have

1256
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: always been trying different ways, some to varying levels of success.

1257
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 2: You know, many of us talking about shit that we

1258
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 2: really don't know about. We just hope or think, right,

1259
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 2: I don't know shit about being billionaire. And I don't

1260
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: know shit about whatever type of motherfucking leverage or fame

1261
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 2: or celebrity these motherfuckers all have. But I do know

1262
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: enough to know that you can be a well intentioned

1263
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: person and be used. You can be a well intentioned

1264
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: person and be using someone you know to get your goal.

1265
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: But it doesn't necessarily mean that your goal is or

1266
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: your goal is now evil, or that your method is

1267
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: because I wouldn't have done it is somehow less black

1268
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 2: than the way I live. That thing is, I think

1269
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: is different, and I think there are people who are

1270
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: overtly quote unquote coonan. There are people out here that

1271
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 2: are doing it. They don't give a fuck about you

1272
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,879
Speaker 2: or I. They don't give a fuck about blackness in general.

1273
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 2: They'll tell you to your face they're not ashamed of it.

1274
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: You know. Some of the things Steve Harvey says comes

1275
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 2: to mind where he's like, Nah, nah, you broke niggas,

1276
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up. I'm getting money and y'all can

1277
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 2: suck my dick, you know. Like some of the things

1278
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 2: he says, it's like, oh, wow, he really don't give

1279
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 2: a fuck. It's not a secret, you know, But this

1280
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: idea of this like conspiratorial type of coon in where

1281
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 2: it's like he I don't know, or the idea is

1282
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: someone makes a mistake and that's just them forever or whatever,

1283
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 2: or they or the things they do that you don't

1284
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: like or define them more than the things they do

1285
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: that like, then you go silent when they do shit

1286
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: you do like I think, it's just kind of whack,

1287
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 2: that's all. So that's a major part of it for me.

1288
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 2: The second thing, this discovery so long, so sorry y'all.

1289
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: The other thing I'm thinking about with the jay Z

1290
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: and Kaepernick shit, that really it kind of bothers me.

1291
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 2: And I'm glad that all this came back up so

1292
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: I could refocus and think about how I felt at

1293
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: the beginning of all this, and I still feel validated.

1294
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but to me, the idea

1295
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 2: of Kaepernick as a leader, as I've seen him refer

1296
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: to in the last few days, even jay Z is

1297
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 2: a leader, is more to be attributed to the idea

1298
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: that there is a charismatic black man vacuum that or

1299
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: model of leadership that we despite all our protestations and

1300
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 2: ideas that we shouldn't be like this, we are beholden

1301
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 2: to it, and it's never going to be broken. As

1302
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 2: black people, we are always looking for the next MLK,

1303
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: Martin Luther King, next Malcolm X, the next you know,

1304
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 2: like great black speaker orators. A lot of it happened

1305
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: to Obama where he was a politician and people were like, no, no, no, no,

1306
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: no black leader, social justice, civil rights, and it's like,

1307
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: that's not even the shit he's necessarily on, Like he's

1308
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 2: not this militant person in the way that y'all are

1309
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: painting him to be. And then when you get disappointed

1310
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 2: by him, it's because you just threw that into him

1311
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: without any consideration about is he actually trying to be that?

1312
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: You know, when he's trying to be this unifying figure

1313
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: to all of America, why are we the ones consistently

1314
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: being like no, no, no, no, no, he's trying to lead

1315
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 2: just black America. He should have policies for only black

1316
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 2: people and shit, you know, like what about him made

1317
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: you feel that he was going to do that because

1318
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: he is black and a man and a straight man.

1319
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: You know. But I feel like Kaepernick more than anybody,

1320
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: and jay Z to an extent here too, is just

1321
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 2: an example of us feeling like a black man talking

1322
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: about race. Gotta be a leader. Now it's time for

1323
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 2: us to get behind him. It's time for us to

1324
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: get down, to lay down, do what he wants us

1325
01:11:55,080 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 2: to say. You know, if you think about it, but

1326
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: Kaepernick hasn't said much. And I'm not saying that as

1327
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: a knock on him necessarily. I think it's strategic. I

1328
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 2: actually think it's brilliant. To be fair, he's an empty

1329
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 2: vessel for us to pour our sainthood into. We give

1330
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: him all of the positives, none of the negatives, right,

1331
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: and he can't be quote unquote canceled because he doesn't

1332
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: talk it say shit like. He cannot erode his goodwill

1333
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: among the people that support him because the people that

1334
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: support him are very fickle people. Let's be fair, these are.

1335
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: But when you listen to people's discussion of Kaepernick, how

1336
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 2: much of it is not shit he said? But shit?

1337
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: We assume you know, like that is a major part

1338
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: of it. Kaepernick never told y'all to boycott the NFL.

1339
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 2: If according to you know, the leaks and shit around him,

1340
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 2: he will like to play in the NFL. Well, if

1341
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 2: he wants to play in the NFL, what do you

1342
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 2: think he wants y'all to do right, he gonna you

1343
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 2: want that check from the NFL. He's not saying this racist,

1344
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: horrible organization. I wouldn't play for them for free. Like

1345
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: he's like, no, no, no, I would like to stay a

1346
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 2: millionaire as I have been for quite some time and

1347
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 2: grown accustomed to.

1348
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: Right.

1349
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: But he didn't call for that boycott. He didn't say, uh,

1350
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 2: he didn't want anyone working with the NFL on social

1351
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 2: justice initiatives. We decided that for him. Malcolm Jingers Is

1352
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 2: kun and Eric Rees out there calling people at Koon,

1353
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 2: you know. And you know, I believe very reed Is

1354
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: feels the righteous. I mean he takes a knee and

1355
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: goes out and chastises and admonishes people in the press

1356
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: and stuff. And I believe that he believes he's righteous

1357
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: in that in that to do that and still get

1358
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: a check from the NFL, as long as he is

1359
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 2: being a pain in the ass to them, he's justified

1360
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,799
Speaker 2: it in his mind. That is, you know, him getting

1361
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: him going to get a check while Kaepernick is not

1362
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: allowed to. It's somehow different than jay Z getting a

1363
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 2: check while Kaepernick isn't allowed to, you know, So that's

1364
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: kind of an interesting thing. And I don't know, it

1365
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: feels like what Kaepernick, there's certain shit about him that

1366
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 2: I think people either forgot or is just convenient to

1367
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 2: let go because he's not in the NFL. So we

1368
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 2: can all agree on that one part. But when it

1369
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 2: was a castro shirt, when it was being accused of

1370
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: sexual assault, when it was don't go vote Hill, Clinton

1371
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: and Trump are the same, when it was you know,

1372
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: pig socks and shit like that, even though he was

1373
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: saying that I'm not anti police or whatever, like him

1374
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 2: speaking for himself was kind of controversial. Just I want

1375
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 2: to say two years ago, maybe no, maybe it was

1376
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: last year. Jared Richardson was gonna have to sell the

1377
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: team because he just had people call him mysteries, grabbing

1378
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: tittis and shit, he's the Panthers. He was the Panthers owner.

1379
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: So they were like, you gotta sell the team. You

1380
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: got caught out here being a piece of shit. Right.

1381
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 2: Black celebrities were floating out the idea of buying that team.

1382
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: During the wee boycotting Kaepernick, team go Cap staying with

1383
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: Cap Puff Daddy TI. People was floating Oprah's name out there. Shit,

1384
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 2: I don't remember they were floating jay Z then or not,

1385
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: But it was a lot of like, yeah, so we

1386
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 2: need a black team who better than the Panthers and

1387
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: Cam Newton and motherfuckers. Was out here like really going

1388
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: like celebrating it. It was, And it wasn't like a

1389
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 2: handful of niggas. It was a lot of niggas, including

1390
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 2: one Colin Kaepernick, who was on Twitter saying like I

1391
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 2: won't end on part of the owners group, still tweet,

1392
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 2: still up. You can go look for yourself. So this

1393
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: idea of like this we're supposed to stay away from

1394
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: this evil corporate animal, it don't add up. It's convenient

1395
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: to say today, but the actual like receipts of it

1396
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: all aren't squared up. Dog like people are projecting shit

1397
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 2: onto this dude because it makes him such a hero

1398
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 2: that he's above humanity, he's above being a human being

1399
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 2: at this point. You know, like I said, to see

1400
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: someone call jay Z a capitalist in a negative way,

1401
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 2: but Colin Kaepernick's not a capitalist. From monetizing his activism

1402
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: and wanting to get paid millions of dollars to play football.

1403
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: It's weird. It's weird you are talking about two rich people.

1404
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: One better at being rich than the other one's evil

1405
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: one is not how what is the magic defining number

1406
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 2: that makes you a go from a rich nigga to

1407
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 2: a capitalist?

1408
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: You know?

1409
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: What are the values that we as files that turn that? Because,

1410
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: like I said, when I listen to music, I don't

1411
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: and I'm saying this is a person that doesn't do this.

1412
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 2: I don't call people capitalists and judge them for wanting

1413
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 2: to get money Black people in America, I just don't like,

1414
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: unless you are actually physically hurting somebody, I really don't

1415
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 2: give a fuck that you getting money. It's really all

1416
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 2: we got, you know. And hopefully even like the same

1417
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: people that be like pay pay me, paid your worth,

1418
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 2: pay black people all this shit are the same people

1419
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 2: like these capitalists line, I'm like, what the fuck you

1420
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 2: talking about? You want a life where you get paid

1421
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,560
Speaker 2: the value of what you're worth? Right? You want the

1422
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: life where you get paid to do this? And who

1423
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: the fuck gets to tell you what that number is? Right?

1424
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 2: I get to tell you. Well, I think what you

1425
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: do with your podcast or with your media empire, your

1426
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: youth two channel, I actually think that's only worth about

1427
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars a year. So you a capitalist pig

1428
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 2: with that forty thousand dollars dog. That's too much, Like

1429
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: who the fuck is it say that? Meanwhile, in America

1430
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 2: we all live in high on the fucking hall. Compared

1431
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 2: to other countries life, it's all relative shit, you know.

1432
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: Like I said, I it's weird to me to be like,

1433
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: ooh you see this video call to be drop money,

1434
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: money everywhere, this money. Oh, we gotta get that money.

1435
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: This capitalist motherfucking swine. Jay Z always rapping about art

1436
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 2: and shit, like what are you? Have you thought about

1437
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 2: the consistency of your statements or your own morality? Have

1438
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 2: you just considered it for a second, you know? And

1439
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 2: I know this comes off like a dispense for jay Z,

1440
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: but I'm about to I have more. Like I said,

1441
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: it's gonna be wrong. So I find like Kaepernick shit

1442
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 2: to be a little bit at this point. If he's

1443
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 2: not speaking for himself and he has no actionable items

1444
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 2: on his list other than put me back in the NFL,

1445
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 2: I don't see how that should paralyze everybody else's uh

1446
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: business moves or or activism. I just don't, you know,

1447
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: And if if that's gonna be the line for everybody.

1448
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 2: Then cool that somebody, one person you leave in the

1449
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 2: opportunity on the table doesn't mean that somebody won't pick

1450
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 2: it up. And if y'all want to say that's cooning,

1451
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: cool that that makes you feel powerful, make you feel strong,

1452
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 2: Now cool you you're the most righteous person in the world.

1453
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: But I just don't. I don't know, I don't share

1454
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 2: that feeling. And maybe I would like to at least

1455
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: see more before I can really engage in that. I

1456
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: need to see that, you know, because I've heard rumors,

1457
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: but I need to see like details of the deal.

1458
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: I need what is their social justice? Maybe if it's

1459
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 2: just you know, if it's some bullshit, nobody gets helped. Cool.

1460
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 2: Another thing that bothered me was a lot of activists

1461
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 2: were calling out Jay Z. And they're activists who've been

1462
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: called out for sitting at tables that people felt they

1463
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: didn't belong to. They're like, oh, you didn't pass that

1464
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: with Kaepernick. Kaepernick isn't the arbiter of everything with the

1465
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: NFL or everything in blackness, especially when he don't speak.

1466
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 2: He like, when am I gonna have to ask permission

1467
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: to a dude to do business? And yeah, like unless

1468
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 2: he want to be like publicly like yo, I don't

1469
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 2: want nobody doing blank. And even then that's just his opinion,

1470
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: you know, like we have. I think the bar is

1471
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,520
Speaker 2: so low for what we want to call black leadership

1472
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: because we ignore black women in leadership, we ignore gay

1473
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: people in leadership positions, we ignore those people. So it's

1474
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 2: like black men default, we are going to measure you

1475
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 2: and hold you accountable to like civil rights leader standards,

1476
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 2: and this is not. It's not holding up and we're

1477
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: gonna elevate you to that when you're not. Jay Z's not,

1478
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 2: and neither is Kaepernick to a certain extent. He doesn't

1479
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: do He doesn't talk the talk for folks, you know.

1480
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying, like I said, this is not

1481
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: a knock of him. He should still be in the NFL.

1482
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 2: But that's it unless he shows that he wants to

1483
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 2: do more than that. He's just the guy who's not

1484
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: allowed to play in the NFL until he says, yo,

1485
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: I and I actually want to speak on this. I

1486
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 2: actually wanna, uh you know, let me let me advocate

1487
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: for this cause, let me spread awareness for this, that

1488
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 2: and the other. Like he has his his things that

1489
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: he's done, like he has to know your rights camp, right,

1490
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 2: he's giving money to charity. This is not knocking him

1491
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: as saying he's not an activist or he doesn't care

1492
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: about people. It's just it's a difference between what that

1493
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 2: is and somebody that literally wants to be like a

1494
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 2: civil rights leader. You know, people knocked the idea of

1495
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 2: changing things from the inside, but then they stand for

1496
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 2: the fucking Acassio Cortees Quartet who are literally trying to

1497
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 2: change things from the inside. Make up your minds, what

1498
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 2: is it? What is it? Gods? Is it what you

1499
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 2: wally on one mic? You know? So then other things

1500
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: I was thinking about with this shit. It's kind of

1501
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 2: funny too that people think that what they're doing with

1502
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: the NFL is a boycott. And I would attribute that

1503
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: to literally it's either our laziness, our over zealousness, or

1504
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 2: literally ignorance. I don't know which it is. But if

1505
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 2: you study what a boycott is, this ain't it. No,

1506
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 2: it's not this ain't it? What are the demands? You know?

1507
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 2: What are the alternatives? Like? You know, I was listening

1508
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 2: to RANDALP. Terrence on Three Guys Own and he was

1509
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 2: talking about like the bus boycotts. People don't know that

1510
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 2: shit went on for two years. That was a coordinated effort.

1511
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: But what people don't talk about is the planning. Like

1512
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 2: like people always use that to admonish the wheel power.

1513
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: Y'all niggas came boycott and they was boycotting for two

1514
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 2: years on the bus. When it came to it's like, yes,

1515
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 2: but what did they do? They planned? They said, we're

1516
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 2: not gonna do this. Here's the alternatives to how we

1517
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 2: get people to work. Because black people were relying on

1518
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 2: public transportation. So now you gotta have some cooperation within

1519
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: the community. You got a car, you taking five people

1520
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 2: to work every day. We all throwing in a couple

1521
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 2: dollars in the gas tank. We gonna make this work.

1522
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: Are sick, our elderly are infirmed. Who's taking care of

1523
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: them within the community? You know? Also who's holding people

1524
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: accounted before a I saw you getting on the bus

1525
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: the other day? What's up, man, I gotta get to

1526
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: work and hey, cool, cool coode. We're gonna have to

1527
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: figure something out when you're not taking this bus stoff.

1528
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 2: We're not giving our money to that. Now what I

1529
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: think and I'm not a leader or activist. But I

1530
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 2: think if you really wanted to call this a boycott,

1531
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: you'd be offering alternatives to entertainment on Sundays for folks,

1532
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: not some individual shiit like I I read a nice book, go,

1533
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: I go, you know, I go out to the walk. No,

1534
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 2: I mean like every you know these cities where there's

1535
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 2: NFL teams and shit, Hey guys, we're throwing a cookout

1536
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 2: in the park every Sunday. This, this, this, like this,

1537
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: this season, don't watch football.

1538
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: Killing come early and we'll be out here.

1539
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 2: We just we we have a little cookout. We're gonna

1540
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 2: be hanging out, drinking, drink a couple of bruis, maybe

1541
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 2: play some spades or some shit like that. But we like,

1542
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 2: we are coordinating events to not be at football so

1543
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: that so that our money goes to like places that matter,

1544
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 2: like black, let's go to a black restaurant. Shut this

1545
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 2: motherfucker down. Now we're getting money in our community. Because

1546
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 2: it's not just the withholding of money. It's not just

1547
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 2: and in this case, people consider just not watching it

1548
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 2: to be withholding money, even though you still pay for

1549
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: the cable bill and all that stuff. You know, but

1550
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: ratings do matter. But because of the way the Kaepernick

1551
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 2: protest was. People can can attribute the ratings to racism,

1552
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: like white people being like, I'm sick of this shit,

1553
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: and they can also attribute it to black people opting out. Now,

1554
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 2: what do you think our white led media is gonna do.

1555
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna say it's just white people mad at Kaevernick.

1556
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: They're never gonna give black people to credit. So you

1557
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 2: don't even have the numbers to then say this is

1558
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 2: the result of our boycott. So you don't have the

1559
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 2: measurables to call it a boycott. Let's be let's be

1560
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 2: frank with the language. You're just upset, and by just

1561
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 2: I don't mean to be littlely. I mean this is all.

1562
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: We are only upset. We are only mad. I am

1563
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 2: mad at this thing. I will not watch this thing.

1564
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 2: That's what we have. A boycott is bigger than that.

1565
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: You don't eat Chick fil a. You're mad at chick

1566
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: fil a, You're not boycott and Jick fil A. A

1567
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 2: boycott has a specific actionable list, you know. And this

1568
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: is not me being a dick. This is literally this

1569
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 2: is the truth, Liz, Like, look up what boycotts are.

1570
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: Look up the history of boycotts. Look up some successful boycotts.

1571
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 2: They all have elements to them. You're just upset and

1572
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: you're not gonna do the thing because you're upset. I

1573
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 2: don't listen to R. Kelly's music. I'm not boycott and

1574
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 2: R Kelly, but I don't listen to his motherfucking music

1575
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: cause I'm mad. Agreed, you know, it's a difference. And

1576
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 2: it's like I said, it's people that feel so strongly

1577
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 2: about this will project onto my comments and shit, and

1578
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 2: honestly do that. I don't give a fuck. Don't write me,

1579
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: don't tell me shit. You know what the fuck I'm

1580
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 2: saying is real, you know what I mean? Like, this

1581
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 2: is not a shaming niggas that monitsing them. I relate

1582
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: to the anger. I just told you what the R.

1583
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: Kelly thing is, but I'm thinking further than just that.

1584
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: And I was like that about Papa Jones, like yeah,

1585
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: I just talked about that, and I had to slowly

1586
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: come around to the conclusion of I was just mad,

1587
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: and once I really sat down, I even sat on

1588
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: show once I really sat down, and was like, they

1589
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: got rid of that nigga. That nigga wasn't there. Everything

1590
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: that we quote unquote demanding him to them to do

1591
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: they did, okay, and if I'm still like fuck them,

1592
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: I was just mad. That meant there was nothing that

1593
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: they could do to get it right with me.

1594
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's so many moving parts of this. You know,

1595
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: I could talk even longer, but you know, I'm trying

1596
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: to keep my thoughts pretty focused.

1597
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: Okahead just show.

1598
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: So that's another thing that I thought, you know. And

1599
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: then there's also people that are literally making money off

1600
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 2: of this, like off of this discord and off of

1601
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: being the first person to call him a coon and

1602
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: shit or whatever. Ain't gonna still be at the Rockefeller

1603
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 2: like at the fucking Rock Nation brunch just or wanna

1604
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 2: be there and shit like that. You know, it's just

1605
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 2: interesting to see that shit play out in real time.

1606
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,799
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see trying to cast his dude aside

1607
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: because it's convenient. That's what people do these days, Like

1608
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: it's convenient. I'm not all the way on this team,

1609
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: and I think, without a pause, it's just easy to do.

1610
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: We do it to each other. It's the same reason

1611
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 2: that people said a Black Ladies catch show is trash

1612
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,560
Speaker 2: ten seconds into the first episode. And you know what,

1613
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, it's this whole like, guys, I'm the

1614
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 2: most Like I'm the most black, Y'all'm so black. Fuck

1615
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: jay Z and fuck Rockefeller. I never liked this nigga either,

1616
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: all day, bitch, that's all I'm playing like, Okay, all right,

1617
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 2: all right. Cool. The other thing too, with uh with

1618
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 2: Kaepernick specifically, I think, but the altruism we have heaped

1619
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 2: upon him when this is essentially a labor dispute. He

1620
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: soothed them because of a labor issue. Y'all won't let

1621
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 2: me work him and Eric Reed both got settlement money

1622
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 2: from that. Eric Reed's back in the league. And I

1623
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 2: really think they don't want Kaepernick in the league to

1624
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 2: make an example out of him because he was the

1625
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 2: first one to do it. You know. I think it's

1626
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 2: that fucking simple, because think about how it is spread

1627
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: like wildfire throughout the athletic community. High schoolers taking the knee,

1628
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 2: making Rappino getting all the props for taking the knee,

1629
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 2: other players taking the knee in other sports. Other like

1630
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 2: people are this like this thing now is not as

1631
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 2: big as it was. And when Jay Z said for

1632
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 2: the record, they only take part of this quote, and hey,

1633
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: that's what that's what social media does. Now, they're not

1634
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 2: gonna give you the full quote, they're not gonna give

1635
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 2: you the full story. But he when he said he

1636
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 2: felt like we were past kneeling, My my gut reaction

1637
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 2: at first was like the fuck, nigga, You never knew

1638
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 2: what you're talking about, right, That's my first reaction on nigga,

1639
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 2: was you make it sound like you was out there kneeling,

1640
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 2: jay Z. You know all you did was were Kaepernick

1641
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 2: shirt on SNL, Like you didn't like take the hit

1642
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 2: for this. You know, you said you weren't doing the

1643
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 2: super Bowl, you know, And of course we find out

1644
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: the reason he really wasn't doing the super Bowl or

1645
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 2: the reason that he didn't want Travis Scott to do

1646
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. According to him, if you believe him,

1647
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: it is because Travis Scott should be the headline in act,

1648
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 2: not the opening act, like he should get to do

1649
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 2: the whole Super Bowl halftime by itself. That's according to

1650
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 2: jay Z. I'm gonna be frank, which I'll I don't

1651
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 2: know jay Z. I don't know him to be a liar.

1652
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: I think that's a lie. At least I think he was.

1653
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: He was okay with us believing that he did that

1654
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 2: to boycott the super Bowl for Kaepernick. I think he

1655
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,799
Speaker 2: was temp if nothing else he was he was okay

1656
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 2: with that shit. And I think that's that's scummy. That's

1657
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 2: fucked up. Like if that's really what you said to

1658
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 2: Travis Scott, but you let it be reported like Jay

1659
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 2: Z reached out to Travis Scott to try to get

1660
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 2: him not to do the super Bowl. Oh yeah, Team

1661
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 2: Cap no, Like like, if you let people think that, yeah,

1662
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 2: that's fucked up. You've missed. You lied by our mission.

1663
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 2: It's misleading on purpose. Right. The other thing, while I'm

1664
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: talking about it, the other thing I think is fucked

1665
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 2: up is that he did wear that jersey and he

1666
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 2: did go on this c and L and say that

1667
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 2: shit and then do this deal. I don't care that.

1668
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 2: I don't care that he never said he wouldn't do it.

1669
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,719
Speaker 2: I don't care that he feels that they're two different issues.

1670
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 2: It don't matter to me. You knew what the fuck

1671
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,759
Speaker 2: that was gonna make people think. You made it sound

1672
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 2: like you was with the whole Team Cap. We not

1673
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 2: fucking with the NFL. No most shit. You know, this

1674
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: is one of the reason not like people would get

1675
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 2: mad or people would say shit Sideway shit about us, like, well,

1676
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 2: don't they just admit they like the NFL. I'm like,

1677
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 2: this is why I was always honest about. Yeah, I

1678
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 2: will be watching games, and I'm also not boycotting, and

1679
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 2: I don't watch as much as I used to. But

1680
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 2: it's really just I'm not gonna attribute that to a boycott.

1681
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell y'all this really because football sucks and

1682
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 2: it's not as good as it used to be, and

1683
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm getting older and I'm going out with my wife

1684
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 2: and eating and coming home and falling asleep and not

1685
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 2: watching these games. So I could tell y'all I boycotting

1686
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 2: like you and make you feel like, yeah, Rod's here

1687
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 2: with solidarity. But the truth of the matter is I

1688
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: don't boycott things. I literally just be like, damn, if

1689
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 2: I watch almost shitty football game, I'm gonna lose my

1690
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: goddamn all. I gotta get off my couch. That's it,

1691
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 2: you know. So yeah what so yeah, I do feel

1692
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: like that was coming a jay Z And that's really

1693
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 2: why one of the main reasons people I'm mad, you know,

1694
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: shouldn't know what that jersey, you know, wave hopping. That's

1695
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 2: what he do be been doing it, you know. But

1696
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 2: even with that part of it, jay Z was right

1697
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 2: when he said that we are past kneeling. He's right.

1698
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 2: We've been past kneeling. System owners came out there and

1699
01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 2: got on the knee. We've been past nieling. Since the

1700
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 2: fact that Eric reid niels every weekend, nobody gives a fuck.

1701
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 2: Somebody got killed in Charlotte by the police this year.

1702
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 2: I bet you what on one question was asked very

1703
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 2: greed about that shit. I bet you not one the

1704
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 2: dude killed at Burger King and they decided not to

1705
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 2: prosecute the cop either. I bet you there's not one

1706
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 2: fucking question being asked him a by our local media

1707
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 2: sports people inbody because nobody can a fuck about that

1708
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 2: kneeling shit no more. At this point, it's about Kaepernick

1709
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 2: not having a job. That's what they're standing on, not

1710
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 2: the knil. Other athletes are kneeling, protesting, speaking out, saying stuff.

1711
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 2: The NBA went through this with my mood, I'll do it,

1712
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 2: and the people think the NBA is the woke league

1713
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 2: now right. We think it's the one where the athletes

1714
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,719
Speaker 2: get the freedom and our the Social Justice League. That always.

1715
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 2: The reason we think that is because they went through

1716
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 2: their growing pains before Twitter and Facebook. That's the only reason.

1717
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 2: They were just as fucking like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What

1718
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 2: you think this sport is for is not the motherfucking Yeah,

1719
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 2: we don't do basketball. So you can go out and

1720
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 2: spread the word about how evil America is. We don't

1721
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 2: do basketball for that. So if you would like to

1722
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 2: spread that message, you can't do it on our TVs

1723
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 2: and on our court. Matter of fact, you actually have

1724
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 2: to get out here and stand for their legions and

1725
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 2: then we do the prayer than the allegiance. And people

1726
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 2: talk about the Islamophobia like shit was fucked up, but

1727
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 2: the NBA skated by because it's just it was long

1728
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 2: enough ago that we just are like, yeah, I guess

1729
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 2: I don't. That was a crazy time. Remember that Chris

1730
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 2: Jackson changed his name, Like that's how people talk about it.

1731
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 2: But he was black ball from the NBA too. They're

1732
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 2: not a better league, they just had it happen at

1733
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 2: a different time. Matter of fact, one league has a

1734
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 2: rule of out protesting during the national anthem, and one

1735
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 2: doesn't guess which one is. Yeah, it's not the NFL,

1736
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 2: the NBA got the league got the rule you can't

1737
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 2: go out there and take no knees and protest during

1738
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 2: the national anthem. But like I said, that's an inconvenient truth,

1739
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 2: you know. And then so then the last thing I'll

1740
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 2: say before I move on is this. So I went

1741
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 2: back to the origin of like, why do I feel

1742
01:34:53,439 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 2: so dispassionate about Kaepernick's protest or or stopping watching football

1743
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 2: based off of this? And I know people would like

1744
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 2: to dismiss it. And I'm well aware of of why

1745
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 2: people dismiss it right because, you know, but as a

1746
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 2: black man, I feel like, you know, I'm qualified to

1747
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 2: at least talk about it. Ray Rice, I saw the

1748
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 2: same people who are standing on righteousness now mock folks

1749
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 2: who are outraged about Ray Rice mock people. They laughed

1750
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 2: at him, They defended that dude. They defended the team

1751
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 2: forgetting him. They then assumed that his wife deserved to

1752
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 2: be brutally knocked out and off an elevator video came out.

1753
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 2: They still made excuses a black woman, of course. They

1754
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 2: they were so upset with the idea that a black

1755
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 2: man could lose his job over that. Still to this day,

1756
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 2: they because public sentiment faded so fast, eventually faded on him,

1757
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 2: and that second video came out where he spat on

1758
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 2: her and shit, that's when they finally was like, oh,

1759
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 2: I think I might be on the wrong side of this,

1760
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 2: but I watched the same men who are righteously indignant

1761
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 2: about Kaepernick put him in the face of their avatars,

1762
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 2: bring him up like he's fucking Malcolm x Martin Luther

1763
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 2: King rolled in one. I watched those men defend ray

1764
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Rice because what they were defending is black malehood. That's it,

1765
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: the right for a black man to be where a

1766
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 2: white man be.

1767
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: That's it.

1768
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 2: It's not deeper than that. And I hate to say that,

1769
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 2: but that is how it feels to me. It is

1770
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 2: not some fucking passion reason to stance. It is literally

1771
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 2: just the idea of well I would defend if I

1772
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 2: would defend it when it was ray Rice, and I

1773
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 2: see it's the same niggas. It's not some vard. These

1774
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 2: are two different groups, no same niggas. If I would

1775
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 2: see you defend ray Rice, then I have no respect

1776
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 2: for your defense of Kaepernick. It's the same because I

1777
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 2: know deep down it's I started being upset when it

1778
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 2: was black men doing being the ones in the under

1779
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 2: the gun other than that, fuck everybody, right, Like, I

1780
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:50,679
Speaker 2: made this, I made this. Uh, I don't know, I've

1781
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 2: already made my Like, okay, cool, I watch a dirty product.

1782
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. I already made my my

1783
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 2: my shit with that years ago, years ago, because I

1784
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, these motherfuckers are savages off the field,

1785
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 2: and it just don't fucking matter to nobody. You know,

1786
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 2: we're watching them be good at football, and that's as

1787
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 2: far as you're gonna take it. Don't call them role models,

1788
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 2: don't call them heroes. I look at them same way

1789
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 2: I look at the superhero teams on the boys, you

1790
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, Okay, these niggas as wild

1791
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 2: all right, got it? You know, like the fact that

1792
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 2: you have people that defend rapists, right they if the

1793
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 2: rapist on my team, I got it, defended right, racist

1794
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 2: Riley Cooper, big Ben Roethlisberger. You know, you know the

1795
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 2: people that abuse that children, Adrian Peterson, Kareem Hunt, people

1796
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 2: that beat women. All of this shit is okay. It

1797
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,719
Speaker 2: was when Cavinick couldn't take the knee, and maybe their

1798
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 2: logic is, well, that's why this is so egregious because

1799
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 2: you can do all this other shit, Rod and they

1800
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,679
Speaker 2: won't let you take a knee. And I'm like, cool,

1801
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 2: but you defended some of the other shit, though, I

1802
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 2: would be okay if you were always incensed, Like, nah,

1803
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: fuck is this despicable? I watch people laugh. I watch

1804
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 2: people laugh. Stephen A. Smith got suspended defending ray Rice

1805
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 2: talking about woman shit, no not to come up to,

1806
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 2: no man, what.

1807
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: Like.

1808
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 2: So I don't think you know, and I know it's personal,

1809
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 2: but I don't think I ever got over the outrage

1810
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 2: of watching these people flip flop. So I just don't

1811
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 2: have the reverence for Kaepernick as other people do, because

1812
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the reverence is it's

1813
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 2: a black man and that's it. It's not deeper than that.

1814
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 2: We have a vacuum of black masculine, not man. Black

1815
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:04,600
Speaker 2: sis had heroes. Therefore, we gonna put this dude in

1816
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 2: the hero phrase because he did something and paid for it,

1817
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 2: and a person shouldn't have to pay he he is wronged,

1818
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 2: he being wronged, agreed. You know, everyone can agree he

1819
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 2: should be in the league. And so since we can

1820
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 2: agree on that, let's just not analyze anything else. So

1821
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 2: I think that's why I don't feel so like, you know,

1822
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 2: if jay Z won't talk to Kevin, I'm.

1823
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: Like, Nigga, who the fuck is he?

1824
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 2: Like? So he got done wrong? Nobody else can try

1825
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 2: to make nothing right out of this, and I'm and

1826
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 2: cynically even if it's just jay Z being like, I

1827
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 2: just want some like a business deal. I actually, this

1828
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 2: ain't even really about activism. I threw that shit in

1829
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 2: on the end. I don't even give a fuck about

1830
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 2: activism when it comes to my business deal. I just

1831
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 2: won't make this money. I won't be an owner of

1832
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 2: an NFL team one day, and this how it's gonna start.

1833
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 2: This is my way in if that's the case, So what,

1834
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't even give a fuck, you know, because it's

1835
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 2: just it's easy to support since had black men, but

1836
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 2: we don't. We don't have that same energy, man, We

1837
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 2: don't have that same energy when it's when it's not,

1838
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 2: and Cap just fits the mold man. So anyway, that's

1839
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 2: all I got to say about it. Man. I know

1840
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 2: that's a lot of shit, but it's better than probably

1841
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 2: doing it tomorrow because I don't want to sit on it.

1842
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 2: But all right, back to the pole, which is who

1843
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 2: you got when it comes to activism, jay Z is

1844
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 2: Sean King, Camp neither. Well, the poll is jay Z

1845
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 2: is Sean King. Ninety two percent of people agree with you. Here,

1846
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 2: what's funny, one of these niggas is an activists. One

1847
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 2: of them is a rapper who dabbles in a little

1848
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 2: bit of activism from time to time. Ain't that some shit?

1849
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 2: Monique says, Sean King has scanned so many Oh yeah, Allegedly,

1850
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 2: jay Z is a proven track record which has set

1851
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 2: the bar for his action super high. I really don't

1852
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 2: care about in the NFL partnership until it's really ironed out.

1853
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,560
Speaker 2: He has a right to make a Still, yeah, I

1854
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 2: would like to see the numbers. But like I said,

1855
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 2: I completely understand the outrage of people that are like,

1856
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 2: why'd you wear that jersey? Why are you shouting Kaepernick out?

1857
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 2: You know, like you really weren't about that life and

1858
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 2: you was willing to ride the I mean that's really

1859
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 2: what people do. They ride the shit on social media

1860
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,519
Speaker 2: because they see so many people doing it. Celebrities ain't

1861
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 2: no different. What's funny is he wasn't selling nothing. That's

1862
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 2: what's funny. People mad at him, like you wore that jersey.

1863
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, he would have been selling that jersey

1864
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 2: now that's jay Z if it had a Rockefeller symbol

1865
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 2: on it, and he would have been like, now go

1866
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 2: to my store and get one. Anyway, Lakida says.

1867
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 1: He's a businessman.

1868
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 2: Lakida says, I'm just here to prove Rid's point about

1869
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 2: the grace we give to those we like. With all

1870
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 2: the good we seen jay Z do, it would be

1871
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:49,679
Speaker 2: out of character for him to suddenly go full Koon.

1872
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 2: Maybe he's a bigger picture. There's a bigger picture. He

1873
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 2: has a bigger picture. Perhaps they had some stipulations to

1874
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 2: meet before j would even consider the contract. Or maybe

1875
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 2: Jay plans to take all that coin continue helping causes

1876
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 2: like hell and black mothers and fathers out of jail. Yep,

1877
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 2: everybody forgets about that one. Interesting how people jump to

1878
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 2: that conclusion immediately. Also, Kaepernick said more than once that

1879
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 2: he wants to play again if he accepts a job.

1880
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 2: Is he a cluone too? And Eric reed, you work

1881
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:19,480
Speaker 2: for the NFL, what would you have him do? L Man, Yeah, yeah,

1882
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 2: Eric is an interesting dude.

1883
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 3: Loo.

1884
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 2: I think the people who voted for Sean King and

1885
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 2: the Paul just hate jay Z. Beyonce has forgiving him

1886
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 2: y'all is fine. Yeah, that was another reason I knew

1887
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 2: a lot of this is just about not liking jay

1888
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 2: Z because people was bringing up him cheating on Beyonce.

1889
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck they got to do with

1890
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 2: this deal? Though, Like you know what I mean, Like,

1891
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 2: how is that relevant to this shit? Oh? Man? I

1892
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 2: love being black, man. I know it could be a

1893
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 2: headache at times and shit, and there's racism and of

1894
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 2: course bullshit you gotta deal with. But like I said, man,

1895
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 2: I legit just kind of soberly tried to look at

1896
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 2: both of these faction of people and just went, you

1897
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 2: know what, dog, that's cool.

1898
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: You know.

1899
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 2: If you think jay Z coonan and he ain't shit

1900
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 2: no more, that's fine. If you think kaeperni is flawless

1901
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 2: and the hero that we all need right now, that's cool.

1902
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 2: I agree, you should have a job. So cool. And

1903
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 2: if the money shit works out for jay Z and

1904
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 2: everybody's changing their mind later, we'll well, we'll see what

1905
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 2: happens then. I don't have enough information. Really, I'm not

1906
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 2: gonna go off on it, you know, And I know

1907
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 2: one thing. If it does turn around, and it is

1908
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 2: something I don't think people have the climate to do

1909
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 2: what Eida did and go apologize to you know, to

1910
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 2: take it back publicly too much. I don't think we're

1911
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 2: we don't live in that anymore.

1912
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 1: We don't.

1913
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 2: You know that. That's why Ider b Wells is Ider

1914
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 2: b Wells and a lot of these niggas is not.

1915
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we live in the nigga era.

1916
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna make it like yeah, I'm still I'm

1917
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 2: still you're right, and here the one that's wrong, y'all,

1918
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 2: because all right, let's go to the next segment. Oh,

1919
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 2: I know what I forgot to mention too. If I

1920
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 2: see what more, motherfucker say that this is a blatant

1921
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 2: pr move that the League is trying to do and

1922
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 2: jay Z is being the face for it, and he's

1923
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 2: just trying to be the black face for be their

1924
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 2: black friend. Well, nigga, if all of y'all wrote the

1925
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 2: same article, guess what, it's not working. It didn't act,

1926
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 2: it's not actually if everybody can see through the fucking

1927
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:39,480
Speaker 2: easy fucking uh. All right, all right, we have voicemails.

1928
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 2: You can call the voicemails seven O four five five

1929
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 2: seven zero one eighty six and uh and uh yeah

1930
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 2: we uh we listen to him on the air. Make

1931
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 2: sure that two minutes or less or you will get

1932
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:55,600
Speaker 2: cut off. All right, Skype does not play around with

1933
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 2: the two minute limit. Okay, seven O four five our

1934
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 2: seven and the on I say, my name is Stephanie.

1935
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 4: I've been a lot of time listening to the show.

1936
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 4: I just wanted to comment.

1937
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 3: On the subject of forgiveness.

1938
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 4: I know I'm about all heading now two weeks kind

1939
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 4: of late, but I'll just taking a listen and I'm

1940
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 4: just catching up.

1941
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 3: On some episodes as I do my deliveries. I was

1942
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 3: going to call it before about the whole insocart.

1943
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 4: Spam and door dash and whatnot, but.

1944
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,559
Speaker 2: You guys, really I'm not gonna cry.

1945
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 3: I want to cry anyway.

1946
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 4: It was a really profound discussion specifically for me, and

1947
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 4: you know, that's really, you know, a key thought of

1948
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 4: my life that I be struggling with forgiving a certain

1949
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 4: individual that had wronged me, really deep rooted wrong me

1950
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 4: that I'm actually still battling knowing that he will never

1951
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 4: you know, apologize. I know, I know the first thing

1952
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 4: I would have to do is, you know, start forgetting myself,

1953
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 4: you know, steps to kind of get back to the normal.

1954
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 4: So I will make this song. Thank you so much

1955
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 4: for the conversation and.

1956
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:17,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for colling.

1957
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,719
Speaker 1: And I know that shit firsthand. So like I said,

1958
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: I was not speaking from a place of not experiencing

1959
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:28,640
Speaker 1: that and that that's that's that's a difficult path and

1960
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 1: it literally took me years like to actually get to

1961
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:37,080
Speaker 1: the point where it was a true, true, honest forgiveness

1962
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: because it's a slow and long process when it comes

1963
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: to forgiveness, uh, for certain things, particularly if it's something

1964
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,600
Speaker 1: that was a deep, deep, deep hurry, it takes a

1965
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 1: very long time. It's not instant. So just no, baby,

1966
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 1: that I'm rooting for you. And there is another side

1967
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: because you just feel so lost and you just feel

1968
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 1: so lone. You just feel like nobody cares. You just

1969
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:01,640
Speaker 1: feel like nobody can relate. You just feel trapped. You

1970
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 1: feel is a bondage and you're walking. It's almost like

1971
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 1: you almost like the walking dead quote unquote, you know,

1972
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 1: because you're walking and you're functioning, but you're not really

1973
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 1: functioning because you're not really you, because you're actually way down.

1974
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where it can sap

1975
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: the life out of you. So you know, I really

1976
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: want you to get to the place, and I really

1977
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 1: hope that you get to the place that you know

1978
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: that there is an other side, because I can speak

1979
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 1: from experience, and I'm on the other side, and it

1980
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 1: is actually a beautiful place to be on the other side.

1981
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just can't see it when you're in that

1982
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 1: deep dark pit and everything looks like it's never going

1983
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 1: to change, and all you can keep doing is just

1984
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 1: looking at your heart being broke and putting it back together,

1985
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: and watching it crumple in your hands, and putting it

1986
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 1: back together and watching it crumpling your hands again, because

1987
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 1: you're just trying to make yourself whole. And the thing

1988
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: about it is that what I realized reaching out helped

1989
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 1: because sometimes you feel so loan in society. The way

1990
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 1: society is designed today, people make it look like a

1991
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 1: character flow. If you can't quote unquote get yourself together,

1992
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:10,680
Speaker 1: you ought to be able to get yourself together. No

1993
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:12,720
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. That's why I'm here because I

1994
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 1: can't get myself together. So reaching out and actually asking

1995
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 1: for help or letting someone know that you are in

1996
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: the place can actually help. I know it did for me,

1997
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 1: and it takes time. Baby, Just know that it's not

1998
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 1: gonna be instant. It's not gonna be overnight. You're gonna

1999
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 1: feel like you're taking three steps forward and two steps

2000
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 1: back sometimes, but just just keep moving forward, baby, and

2001
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: and and there is a a another side. And just

2002
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 1: know that it's not a character flow. There's nothing wrong

2003
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 1: with you. It's okay to cry, it's okay to hurt,

2004
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 1: it's okay to be mad, it's okay to be angry,

2005
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 1: it's okay to be upset like people act like when

2006
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 1: you when you're going through the process of forgiveness. You're

2007
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 1: not supposed to go through this emotional roller coaster, but

2008
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 1: that's part of it. And just learn because you can

2009
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 1: also learn from this and just learn about yourself through

2010
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,640
Speaker 1: the process once you get to the other side. You know,

2011
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 1: because a lot of people that just go through things,

2012
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,759
Speaker 1: they don't actually take a learning experience out of a baby,

2013
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 1: but take a learning experience out of the whole process.

2014
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: And know that it's hurting right now, but know that

2015
01:50:18,360 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 1: you will be whole one day. At least. My hope

2016
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:22,640
Speaker 1: is that you will be whole one day, and that

2017
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 1: once you get to the other side, you making, you know,

2018
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 1: be a person that actually helps other people be like, hey, dog,

2019
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 1: you know what, don't do that because you know I've

2020
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 1: been through that and it's not a fun ride. So

2021
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 1: just know that, baby, I'm rooting for you.

2022
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing I would add to that, Man,

2023
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 2: you brought up something that is so important. I don't

2024
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 2: even remember we talked about it. But one of the

2025
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: hardest parts of forgiving somebody who has wronged you in

2026
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 2: order to have closure and move on for yourself, it's

2027
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 2: forgiving yourself because we are so hard on ourselves when

2028
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:56,879
Speaker 2: we are wrong that we then put it on ourselves,

2029
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 2: Like what did I do? You know that was a

2030
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 2: big thing for me. You know, it was like I

2031
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 2: was dealing with somebody that you know, as far as

2032
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 2: I'm concerned, just completely flipped right, and I was like, Okay,

2033
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:13,760
Speaker 2: where did I go wrong in this? Okay? What? Because

2034
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 2: I'm always trying to see the other person's perspective, can

2035
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 2: you guys hear it every day on the show. Can't

2036
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 2: help it. And then once I kind of I'm when

2037
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do that, I'm really giving them a

2038
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 2: lot of excuses I'm like, well it could be this. Well,

2039
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 2: maybe they've gone through this earlier in their lives, maybe

2040
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 2: they're hurting from that. Maybe I can do this. But

2041
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 2: sometimes it's really just like let me look at my

2042
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 2: own self and be like, how did I fuck up?

2043
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 2: And how do I forgive myself for that fuck up?

2044
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 2: Like I can't be mad at my I can't be

2045
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 2: harder on myself. Then I would allow somebody to be

2046
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 2: on themselves, right, Like if my friend was like, yeah,

2047
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: this person did me dirty, I wouldn't be like, well, bitch,

2048
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 2: you knew that you were, Like I wouldn't you know

2049
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Nigga like into come at them like that.

2050
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 2: But that's how my inner voice is when I fuck up.

2051
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 2: That's that's my inner voice is not a nice voice.

2052
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't talk to myself gently and that's not that's

2053
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 2: something I had to change to be like yeah, yeah,

2054
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:16,679
Speaker 2: I Hey you made a mistake. That's okay. You saw

2055
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 2: something differently than this other person. That's okay, you know

2056
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 2: or you know like I said, and then that helps

2057
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 2: me forgive too. But it has to start with inside.

2058
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 2: And I think that's a major thing. And like you said,

2059
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 2: that person might never say a word to you, never

2060
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 2: forgive you, never move on whatever. But you don't have

2061
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 2: it's not a two party system. You don't have to

2062
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 2: wait for them for you to move on and for

2063
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 2: you to You don't even have to wait for them

2064
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 2: to forgive yourself and to forgive them, you know. And

2065
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean you don't have boundaries. That doesn't mean

2066
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 2: you don't you have to reconnect, rekindles on relationship. They

2067
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:53,559
Speaker 2: don't have to have any access to you at all.

2068
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 2: But you can say, well, I forgiven that person in

2069
01:52:56,280 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 2: the way of you know, saying like they harmed me,

2070
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:05,679
Speaker 2: they did something wrong. They're human and I'm moving on. Agreed,

2071
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 2: all right? Nextsmail, Hey riding Karen.

2072
01:53:09,600 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 3: This is Tickney. So I'm a faithful listener from Memphis.

2073
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 3: So I was actually working late and listen to tonight's

2074
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 3: podcast and I said, wait, let me get home, and

2075
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 3: I was driving home like I was.

2076
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 2: On Mario Karts.

2077
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:25,360
Speaker 3: I to keep you a little scoop on the full

2078
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 3: abortion fan field that's here in Memphis. I went in Tennessee.

2079
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 3: So I am the board president of one of the

2080
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 3: two abortion clinics here in Memphis. And so this has

2081
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 3: been something we've been going through forever and has a

2082
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 3: little bit of scoop really really fast, and I'm going

2083
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 3: to figure in this two minutes. So this was on

2084
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:47,599
Speaker 3: the ballot back in twenty fourteen, where they was anna

2085
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 3: amendment that said we would essentially vote to give up

2086
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:53,719
Speaker 3: our right to ever vote on this issue ever again.

2087
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 3: And people were actually like, oh, yeah, that's a good idea,

2088
01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 3: And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, you

2089
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 3: always want to retain your like to vote. Y'all are crazy,

2090
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 3: But people actually voted to give it up, so I

2091
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:08,719
Speaker 3: can't even process them. We are now in twenty sixteen

2092
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 3: or twenty nineteen, same issue. So basically the problem was

2093
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:17,879
Speaker 3: this make it easy for them to eventually eliminate abortion clinics,

2094
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 3: which also offer other services like birth control for people,

2095
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 3: which you never want because then you can't really control

2096
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 3: anything about your control when you have a kid. So

2097
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 3: that's the biggest issue, along with some others. So yeah,

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01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 3: we knew it was coming, but we're fighting. We're going

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01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 3: to survive it. But a matter of just really taking

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01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 3: your time to understand how many it looked different from

2101
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 3: you is what has been the biggest issue. So anyways,

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Speaker 3: you guys are great. I absolutely love you. I can't

2103
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 3: wait to hear the rest of the episodes by.

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01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 2: Oh thank you and yeah that's birth control is also

2105
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 2: like people's minstro cycles sometimes like me.

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01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 1: For me, that's what it was, doll, because I had

2107
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 1: one of them irregular peers, well them piers. It was like, uh,

2108
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 1: nig I'm here and then me going for six months

2109
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 1: and the nigga, I'm hearing that it's going for another

2110
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 1: three weeks and then it's back again. So for me,

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01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 1: it literally helped me get regulated. It helps regulate cramps,

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01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 1: it helps them not being severe. I know for me,

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01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 1: once I got on birth control, my cramps didn't used

2114
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 1: to feel like someone's fucking beating my units that goddamned death,

2115
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 1: like like you know what I'm saying, Like it wasn't

2116
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: no joke.

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01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 2: It'd be like all of a sudden, you sitting there

2118
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 2: and like you were like god damn, you know.

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01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 1: And so it's people just think baby, but it's not

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01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 1: baby fucking with hormones.

2121
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 2: Yep. She also called back, hey y'all.

2122
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 3: It's kicked me again. I listened to more of the

2123
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 3: episode and I said, I wouldn't give that person. I

2124
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,600
Speaker 3: called again. But I have to say, when you were

2125
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 3: talking about people voting against their own interest, it made

2126
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 3: me think about a former coworker when we were voting

2127
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 3: for all.

2128
01:55:56,840 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 2: Of uh oh, what just happened? Give me one second

2129
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 2: and go back and see if I can fix this.

2130
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 2: Because it was a two minute message. I don't know

2131
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 2: why I got cut off there, So now I'll get

2132
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 2: the start over. Cool, all right, wish.

2133
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 3: Y'all is kicking again. I listened to more of the

2134
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,959
Speaker 3: episode of her voting for all of these abortion band laws,

2135
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 3: and she said that she didn't agree with it, and

2136
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:27,640
Speaker 3: her and her husband had decided that if I like,

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01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 3: in the case that she ever got cancer, that he

2138
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't want her to seek treatment. He just wants them

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01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 3: to save the baby. And I was like, girl, this

2140
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 3: man is trying to kill you. He ain't worried about

2141
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 3: no baby, right, give you a new wife. I was like, no,

2142
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 3: you need to stay alive so you can try to

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01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 3: have another baby. I was like, this is against your

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01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 3: your best interest. And so I think people sometimes and

2145
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 3: they totally don't get how they truly are voting against

2146
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 3: what is best for them. And I think, for myself,

2147
01:56:57,960 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 3: I'm a black woman. First generation that did. You were

2148
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 3: up in housing projects, didn't grow up incredibly for but

2149
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:07,760
Speaker 3: I did. And I'm voting for every girl like me

2150
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 3: in the city of Memphis and in the state of Tennessee.

2151
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 3: And I think people sometimes miss that. But what I

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01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 3: love about being on the board of our clinic is

2153
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 3: that with some down old school white women. I'm talking

2154
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 3: about fifty and sixty year olds who are like the

2155
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 3: ready ride out, go down to Nashville. They spent hours

2156
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 3: on the floor arguing even though they were being silent,

2157
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 3: and they don't see how to play the game. Sometimes

2158
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 3: you got to put some money out there instead of

2159
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 3: just going out there to protest. But it's just crazy

2160
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 3: and they don't get it, and it's most of our

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01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 3: time it's spent educating. So but it's pod out people know, like,

2162
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 3: really what the issues? You can really like overcome some

2163
01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 3: of this.

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01:57:57,240 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 2: So talk to y'all later by Oh, thank you tviny Oh.

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01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad y'all out there doing where I got family

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01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 1: out there. I got family in Knoxville, Tennessee, which is

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01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: actually on the other side of Nashville. So baby, you

2168
01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing and tell them down as

2169
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: white women that we is rooting for them and going

2170
01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 1: down at the Nashville and give them country people.

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01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, and Ida B. Wells that was what she

2172
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 2: had a newspaper in the Free speech in Memphis also

2173
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 2: that that is a thing like I'm not trying to

2174
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 2: say not all white women, but not all white women, right,

2175
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 2: Like there are some down ass like ride or die

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01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 2: white women that.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 2: And it's also why you building alliances can be so important. Now,

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01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that all these white women is for you,

2180
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that some of these motherfuckers won't flake on

2181
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:56,960
Speaker 2: you in a heartbeat and all that shit. Like I

2182
01:58:57,040 --> 01:59:01,000
Speaker 2: totally get that, but yeah, like it's all it's funny

2183
01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 2: because I have such low expectations. But whenever whatever I

2184
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 2: do me like a white person is like bowder you.

2185
01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 2: I'll be looking at them like you you speak this language,

2186
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 2: like you uh, you come from this? What are you doing?

2187
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 1: Like are you sure?

2188
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:17,200
Speaker 2: Are you sure you're supposed to be here? Yeah? So wait,

2189
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 2: you more upset about this than I am?

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01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean they be highly upset because some of

2191
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 1: them white women group, they have been through and they've

2192
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 1: been fighting this for a long ass time and They

2193
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 1: was like, the fuck is this?

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01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always funny though when I when you see that,

2195
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 2: but it's always surprising to me. But you know, I'm

2196
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 2: not gonna get into more. I've fucking enough about that book.

2197
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 2: But man, there's some white women antics up in this

2198
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 2: bitch boy talk about your white feminism, TM boy. When

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01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 2: they failed the prohibition vote in Tennessee, that that Christian temperance,

2200
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:58,000
Speaker 2: you know, the women that that was a bit behind prohibition.

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01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:01,720
Speaker 2: The white women, boy, they turned into some missing.

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02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:03,840
Speaker 1: And so fast. Oh.

2203
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 2: They was like, you know, for good down nigers, you niggers.

2204
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 2: That's we will never work with y'all again. Like, oh,

2205
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:15,680
Speaker 2: the races have jumped out. Who was coming out of her?

2206
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:20,760
Speaker 2: It jumped out? Oh my god, y'all. Wow. Anyway, all right,

2207
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Speaker 2: Next to thank you for beginning this here.

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Speaker 5: Next, this is Natalie, first time caller. I've been listening

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Speaker 5: since you guys with the Vice article and since I've

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02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:32,760
Speaker 5: been catching up on.

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Speaker 6: The old episodes.

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Speaker 5: I just came across the eighteen ninety three episodes you

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02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 5: did back on May sixth, and it was called The

2214
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:46,400
Speaker 5: Black King of England, and you guys talked about the

2215
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:48,640
Speaker 5: case of Kevin sneith. I wanted to give you guys

2216
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 5: a quick little background. So I'm an attorney here in

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02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 5: the state of Maryland.

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Speaker 2: Where oh wait, I played this one. This is the

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02:00:54,240 --> 02:00:57,680
Speaker 2: old one. Hold off? Okay, she she called back, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: Natalie calling again, and so just wanted to react to

2221
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:06,800
Speaker 7: the story that you guys were doing on the model

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02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 7: who pretended like she was trans after receives a lot

2223
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 7: of online backlash, I had to pause the podcast and

2224
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:18,040
Speaker 7: call in about that real quick.

2225
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:19,560
Speaker 6: You guys made such.

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Speaker 7: Great and sailient points, but I also wanted to point

2227
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 7: out that some of the sticks psypology of what she

2228
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 7: did was some how some groups people that are not

2229
02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:31,600
Speaker 7: a part of a minority group that rail on those

2230
02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 7: minority groups and yell and scream and hate them online

2231
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:41,440
Speaker 7: and husband or whatever the case may be, are often jealous.

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02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:43,400
Speaker 6: Of the proceved victimhood.

2233
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 7: And attention that those minorities get to notice it sometimes

2234
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:51,520
Speaker 7: with white supremacist where they will say, oh, I'm not racist.

2235
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:54,720
Speaker 7: You know my brother in law is black, or my

2236
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 7: husband is black.

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02:01:56,200 --> 02:02:00,919
Speaker 6: Or you know, I myself and am am have gay feelings,

2238
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:02,720
Speaker 6: but I don't think they gay people to do this,

2239
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 6: and then that, so they want some of that perceived

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Speaker 6: attention that they think that gay or trans or black

2241
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:12,840
Speaker 6: people get and they're jealous of it, and that's why

2242
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 6: they fixate so much on they perceived to be oppressed.

2243
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:19,800
Speaker 5: So it's something that I've noticed in my work.

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02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:22,560
Speaker 7: It's very disturbing, and I'm really glad that you guys

2245
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 7: highlighted it because what that girl did was just so wrong.

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02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:26,879
Speaker 6: All right, have a good one.

2247
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. That's such a great point. I didn't

2248
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 2: even think about that part. But yeah, within the black community,

2249
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:38,840
Speaker 2: we see all the time with black people that are like, oh,

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Speaker 2: those gay people, if we only had the gay pr

2251
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:45,480
Speaker 2: the gay people have and now they see they get

2252
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:49,360
Speaker 2: things done. It's like, you mean, like the gay people

2253
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:55,600
Speaker 2: and trans people and that like their passing laws and

2254
02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 2: say it's okay to fire them at their job if

2255
02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:00,640
Speaker 2: you find out their sexual orientation. Those people old people.

2256
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 2: They're doing that. Our causes aren't leaned. It's not the same.

2257
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:08,520
Speaker 2: They got it much easier. Are you sure? Are you

2258
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:10,640
Speaker 2: sure you want to go with that? And yeah, a

2259
02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:13,040
Speaker 2: lot of times they come out and they be homophobia

2260
02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:15,800
Speaker 2: shit because they are jealous. It's like their minds in

2261
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:18,880
Speaker 2: their minds. They made a world where their oppression is

2262
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 2: not real and it's all in there. It's all beneficial

2263
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 2: for them. Everybody listens to the.

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02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:26,920
Speaker 1: Gabele, Right, we're all dying, but they're dying at.

2265
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:30,520
Speaker 2: A higher rate, but they're yeah, and in her mind,

2266
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure that when there's like women's causes and shit,

2267
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:34,960
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, yeah, yeah, we need all that, and

2268
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:36,960
Speaker 2: then soon as there's some transhit, she's like, God, this

2269
02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 2: fucking trans shit. It's also studies have shown, like with race,

2270
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 2: and I'm sure it goes to everything gender too, where

2271
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:49,920
Speaker 2: people from the privileged group see the marginalized group overrepresented.

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02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 2: So if you put four women in a room of

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02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:55,640
Speaker 2: twenty men, men will think this room is half filled

2274
02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 2: with women. You see what I'm saying. And I feel

2275
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:01,680
Speaker 2: like that's what people do with activist the like, oh

2276
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 2: I had to hear about the sixteen trans I'm ma

2277
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:07,040
Speaker 2: chilled this year, Jesus Christ. I mean, they get all

2278
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:09,560
Speaker 2: the public and like we're are talking about murder, though,

2279
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:14,640
Speaker 2: like what part of that of they got murdered? Are we?

2280
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:17,760
Speaker 2: Like you know, like what why do you feel like

2281
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 2: that took up all the space in the room and

2282
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 2: now no one cares that straight women get murdered, Like, no,

2283
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 2: we can care about both.

2284
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:26,280
Speaker 1: We can care about both.

2285
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 2: So all right. Last voicemail Karen is Kelly from New York.

2286
02:04:32,920 --> 02:04:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm calling while listening and it rained a lot.

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02:04:36,800 --> 02:04:41,640
Speaker 5: I hope you guys aren't like recordings, but whatever, Karen.

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02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:45,760
Speaker 1: Yes, the the fund the go fundy.

2289
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:48,440
Speaker 3: Explanation for old Jude was in the hospital's two weeks with.

2290
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:52,000
Speaker 6: My friends having.

2291
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:54,160
Speaker 3: A hard time. I wish I was available to watch

2292
02:04:54,200 --> 02:04:58,920
Speaker 3: the lives.

2293
02:04:56,680 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 4: Because girl, I'm crying.

2294
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:03,160
Speaker 3: I lasted so loud.

2295
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 4: I was scared.

2296
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 1: Three white people on the train, it will jump and

2297
02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 1: like one day you dropped your phone, but I didn't

2298
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:09,920
Speaker 1: give a fuck that.

2299
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:10,920
Speaker 3: It was hilarious.

2300
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:12,680
Speaker 2: My friend having a hard time.

2301
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 3: All right, Joe, I love what you do.

2302
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:21,839
Speaker 1: I just had to girl, I'm.

2303
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:26,560
Speaker 2: Oh, your job got all right? I gotta go.

2304
02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2305
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:35,640
Speaker 2: Uh that was That was so funny, though, I think I.

2306
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 1: Caught you off because that that was That was one

2307
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:38,920
Speaker 1: of the unexpected last.

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02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:42,080
Speaker 2: Nah, that was good man. Well, it took me a

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02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:44,680
Speaker 2: while to I was like, I just didn't see it coming.

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Speaker 2: That's the best jokes. I didn't see it coming at all.

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02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:49,440
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh my god, that's married to the

2312
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:52,640
Speaker 2: funniest warming in the world out here. All right, we

2313
02:05:52,720 --> 02:05:54,840
Speaker 2: have a lot of voicemails. Let's get to these and

2314
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:58,400
Speaker 2: that'll be I mean emails. Sometimes I make mistakes. We

2315
02:05:58,440 --> 02:06:01,040
Speaker 2: have a lot of emails, and Karen loves every time.

2316
02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:03,280
Speaker 2: We have a lot of emails, and I'll read those

2317
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:05,000
Speaker 2: and then we'll get out of here. And it's been

2318
02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:07,200
Speaker 2: a longer show. But I really needed to get that

2319
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 2: cabin of jay Z shit off of my chest without

2320
02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 2: being like either interrupted or taken out of context or

2321
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 2: call the coon or whatever the fuck are you caving

2322
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:19,440
Speaker 2: for jay Z or you caving for Collin? Like nah,

2323
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 2: I just want to do it here. So thank y'all

2324
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:25,920
Speaker 2: for allowing that. Amber said Sitting in Love how Roddy.

2325
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:28,080
Speaker 2: Karen left a five STARVIW on iTunes. But I forgot

2326
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:30,240
Speaker 2: to mention how much I love sored Ratching. It's it's

2327
02:06:30,280 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 2: a unique segment that I haven't heard anywhere before. I

2328
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 2: love it much, love Ember, and thank you Ember, thank you.

2329
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 2: You know, we try to do unique, you know, do

2330
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:43,920
Speaker 2: things a little different, little something. Oh, let's see what

2331
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 2: is this is this? Uh? Oh? These are just five

2332
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 2: star reviews. From that I accidentally put in here for

2333
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:54,960
Speaker 2: some reason. All right, let's go to the next email.

2334
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Speaker 2: Music music copyright is from Mr Spam. We've been talking about,

2335
02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 2: you know, this this thing where these people are suing

2336
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 2: musicians for having like two notes the same shit. I

2337
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:09,960
Speaker 2: know I'm a few episodes behind because I just got

2338
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 2: back from vacation, but I was listening to the show

2339
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:13,920
Speaker 2: where you guys talking about Katy Perry being sued for

2340
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:16,200
Speaker 2: stealing the beat that for a gospel rap song, and

2341
02:07:16,240 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 2: how all this may be open the floodgates for other

2342
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:21,160
Speaker 2: people to start opening up lawsuits to do the same thing.

2343
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:23,920
Speaker 2: And Aunt of Vine was considering doing this with my

2344
02:07:23,920 --> 02:07:28,080
Speaker 2: grandfather's music. Finander Bryant is my aunt. She was found

2345
02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:31,280
Speaker 2: she was found out to be my aunt after my grandfather,

2346
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:34,040
Speaker 2: Johnny Taylor passed away. I think the roadblock she ran

2347
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:36,760
Speaker 2: into though, was that as long as my grandfather was performing,

2348
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:39,360
Speaker 2: he didn't own his own masters, nor did he write

2349
02:07:39,400 --> 02:07:42,040
Speaker 2: any of the songs he performed. Had he did any

2350
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:44,880
Speaker 2: of those things, he would have been seeing you would

2351
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:46,880
Speaker 2: have been seeing her in court for this exact same thing.

2352
02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:48,879
Speaker 2: So a whole lot of folks waiting in the wings

2353
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 2: to get these paydays. Fam Damn, yeah, I hear you,

2354
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:56,800
Speaker 2: missus fan. I did not like I said. I'm not

2355
02:07:57,000 --> 02:08:01,720
Speaker 2: as I just I think people are partying because it's

2356
02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 2: the right white people right now. But I just feel

2357
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 2: like one day it's gonna be somebody they like, and

2358
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:12,920
Speaker 2: then it's just gonna be a totally different reaction to Yeah,

2359
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift case study at least just says, hey, Rod,

2360
02:08:15,200 --> 02:08:20,840
Speaker 2: I know why everybody doesn't like Taylor Swift. Beyonce. The

2361
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:23,440
Speaker 2: sting from the Beehive is strong and ever since Kanye

2362
02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 2: did that thing at the war so long ago, I

2363
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:28,640
Speaker 2: can't remember which one we the Blacks felt like Taylor

2364
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 2: stole from Beyonce. And although no one gets canceled in

2365
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:33,640
Speaker 2: real life, Taylor got canceled by us. Just look at

2366
02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 2: Keisha Coolee, who am I still who I'm still rooting for?

2367
02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:38,960
Speaker 2: And that other one carry Hillton, I think it's her name.

2368
02:08:39,480 --> 02:08:42,320
Speaker 2: Their careers were cut short because of their comments about Beyonce,

2369
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:44,640
Speaker 2: or is it that they does that just in my head?

2370
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 2: You know, I can't speak to everybody's head cannon, you know,

2371
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:51,920
Speaker 2: And I, like I said, I became a Beyonce fan,

2372
02:08:52,240 --> 02:08:56,480
Speaker 2: like after the self titled album. Really, so I don't

2373
02:08:56,680 --> 02:08:59,840
Speaker 2: know all the beefs before that, you know what I'm saying.

2374
02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:03,400
Speaker 2: I've heard rumors of this person was talking shit, but

2375
02:09:03,400 --> 02:09:06,120
Speaker 2: I can't be bothered to go google like who said

2376
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:09,960
Speaker 2: some bullshit about Beyonce? And yes, the Hive is forever

2377
02:09:10,160 --> 02:09:12,600
Speaker 2: they be on. People ass whether Beyonce want them to

2378
02:09:12,760 --> 02:09:16,440
Speaker 2: or not. Beyonce could forgive that person being a picture

2379
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:17,360
Speaker 2: of that person.

2380
02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:18,960
Speaker 1: Even her own husband they say fuck him to.

2381
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like Halving the niggas mad at jay Z

2382
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:25,480
Speaker 2: is still mad about Beyonce. Shit, it's crazy. I don't

2383
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:27,680
Speaker 2: understand the rules, so I try to stay away from

2384
02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:30,400
Speaker 2: all that, but I don't have to join in either. Also,

2385
02:09:30,520 --> 02:09:32,680
Speaker 2: people don't just flat out say I don't like her,

2386
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:35,800
Speaker 2: because then we gotta explain why we don't like her,

2387
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:38,520
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna sound crazy. Well, nigga, that's why

2388
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 2: y'all is crazy. It's okay, we have all been crazy.

2389
02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:46,120
Speaker 2: That's why I want people to admit it. Everybody can

2390
02:09:46,160 --> 02:09:50,920
Speaker 2: relate to the crazy. Everybody. Hey, lets you just ain't human.

2391
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 2: Everybody got a person they see and they just they

2392
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:54,960
Speaker 2: don't know the person.

2393
02:09:55,400 --> 02:09:57,080
Speaker 1: You never met, the person they just roll.

2394
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:59,840
Speaker 2: They fucking I was like this, nigga, I'm that person.

2395
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:03,440
Speaker 2: Some people, I'm sure of it. They look all this

2396
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:06,960
Speaker 2: motherfucker right, Rod, you know what I'm saying, Like, but

2397
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:09,120
Speaker 2: I can They don't know, but if they walked up

2398
02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:11,800
Speaker 2: to me, I can actually understand. They was like, Rod,

2399
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 2: I just don't like you. I'm like what I do, man,

2400
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know, Like I can't even really, It's

2401
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:19,160
Speaker 2: just I don't like I just don't fucking like you

2402
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 2: for I don't have a good reason. Okay, you might

2403
02:10:22,240 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 2: be a great guy, just decided fuck you. One day

2404
02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:27,640
Speaker 2: I can actually relate. I'm like yo, I'll probably be

2405
02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:29,400
Speaker 2: like yo, I'm like that with Harries or whatever, like

2406
02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:30,640
Speaker 2: I picked my thing yep.

2407
02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:32,640
Speaker 1: And I've had somebody say that to me to my face,

2408
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:34,160
Speaker 1: so I had to learn how to get over it.

2409
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now I on front if I don't like you,

2410
02:10:36,760 --> 02:10:38,920
Speaker 2: That's why I say it because I don't want to explain.

2411
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:41,520
Speaker 2: So I'm the opposite. You know what I'm saying. When

2412
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 2: you like, I don't like so and so, and then

2413
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:44,640
Speaker 2: people go wide and then you be like, let me explain.

2414
02:10:44,680 --> 02:10:47,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know to tell you shit. I

2415
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:51,560
Speaker 2: don't like that, nigga. The end, I could go crazy,

2416
02:10:51,680 --> 02:10:53,080
Speaker 2: or we could just leave it like this.

2417
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just just be straightforward, yep, just be straightforward

2418
02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:58,440
Speaker 1: with me, because then I'll be like, okay, cool, we

2419
02:10:58,440 --> 02:10:59,280
Speaker 1: don't fuck with the other.

2420
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:01,880
Speaker 2: Cool. Like I can't think of one off the top

2421
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:04,200
Speaker 2: of my head, but you know, I'm sure that somebody

2422
02:11:04,240 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 2: I'm just I feel that way about, like look at

2423
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 2: their face.

2424
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:13,120
Speaker 1: For me, it was a I tell her name up, Lena.

2425
02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 2: Lena Dunham. Yes, yeah, but she's given a lot of

2426
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 2: people reasons to dis like her since then. But yeah,

2427
02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:21,240
Speaker 2: you was not liking her way before I started.

2428
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was just just the fucking up. Like I said,

2429
02:11:25,600 --> 02:11:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm a lot better than I was before, you know,

2430
02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:33,240
Speaker 1: but it's still like you she get a good shot eye.

2431
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody got one. Also, people don't just say at all.

2432
02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:39,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there are no real reasons to hate her

2433
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:41,160
Speaker 2: the way we do. But I can't lie. I do

2434
02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 2: enjoy the jokes and what not. What nigga, I enjoyed

2435
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 2: the jokes the jokes too, Like that's I think there's

2436
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:48,800
Speaker 2: always an assumption that because you don't agree with it,

2437
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 2: you can't enjoy them. Jokes. Oh, I enjoyed them jokes.

2438
02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:54,360
Speaker 2: I'd be like boy, y'all petty today y'all. Donna Taylor

2439
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 2: asked what she do she woke up this morning? Oh oh,

2440
02:11:57,880 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 2: I see you know I'm with the memes. Any who,

2441
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 2: I hope this wasn't too long. Just get my two sis.

2442
02:12:03,600 --> 02:12:06,280
Speaker 2: Keep doing what you do. I love y'all. Alisha pranks

2443
02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:09,720
Speaker 2: Alicia and no, it wasn't too long. It was just fine.

2444
02:12:10,160 --> 02:12:15,920
Speaker 2: Anthony w says, Hey, Rod and Karen, I've been enjoying

2445
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:18,800
Speaker 2: the show for about three years, maybe longer. After hearing

2446
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 2: the shout out from Bomony Jones on I think the

2447
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:24,480
Speaker 2: Evening Jones or the right Time, Hey the Homie. Yes,

2448
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 2: and I haven't stopped. Let many of my podcasts i'll

2449
02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:29,720
Speaker 2: listen to pole up, but the Blackoutips is most definitely

2450
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:31,880
Speaker 2: not one of those. I'm dropping this email to say

2451
02:12:32,680 --> 02:12:36,400
Speaker 2: Rod's The Adventure of Black Adventures of Black Robin take

2452
02:12:36,720 --> 02:12:39,040
Speaker 2: had me dying at my desk this morning. It is

2453
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 2: an all time bit for anyone podcasting.

2454
02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:43,560
Speaker 1: I would love that to be animated out.

2455
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, comedy doesn't matter. That was gold. Yeah, Like if

2456
02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:51,560
Speaker 2: they would just let me write one skit for robot chicken.

2457
02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:52,440
Speaker 2: That would be mine.

2458
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:54,560
Speaker 1: That would be a good robot chicken skit.

2459
02:12:55,440 --> 02:12:57,600
Speaker 2: This was gold. I'm not an Apple user, but I'm

2460
02:12:57,600 --> 02:12:59,440
Speaker 2: taking my ass over the stitcher to drop them five

2461
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:02,000
Speaker 2: stars of Hope bottle time you read this. Also, I

2462
02:13:02,080 --> 02:13:04,839
Speaker 2: put my five on it because it's long overdue.

2463
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:06,160
Speaker 1: Thank you.

2464
02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:09,120
Speaker 2: PS. I like the whole ship drop that y'all had

2465
02:13:09,160 --> 02:13:12,240
Speaker 2: on the carnival was also. It also got me to

2466
02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:14,720
Speaker 2: it's almost fit out my coffee. Andrew w in the

2467
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:19,280
Speaker 2: Dead Okay, thanks Andrew. We appreciate you, fam. And yeah,

2468
02:13:19,320 --> 02:13:23,360
Speaker 2: that that black Robin thing. I like. Sometimes I'll be

2469
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:28,040
Speaker 2: thinking stuff that's funny before before we do the show,

2470
02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:30,480
Speaker 2: and it just cracks me up. You know, little shit

2471
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:33,000
Speaker 2: from our It's our own show, so I know that's corny,

2472
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:36,040
Speaker 2: but sometimes it's the little shit that makes me laugh.

2473
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I made all the time.

2474
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:40,720
Speaker 2: Like one thing I keep fucking thinking ever since I

2475
02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:42,320
Speaker 2: said it. I don't say it on the show that much,

2476
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:45,040
Speaker 2: but I just keep thinking in my head. Sometimes I'll

2477
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:47,280
Speaker 2: be driving my car by myself and I just start

2478
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:50,920
Speaker 2: cracking up to myself. Is the idea of someone with

2479
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:53,280
Speaker 2: an English accent talking about do you want to smoke.

2480
02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but that do you want to smoke?

2481
02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:56,520
Speaker 1: Bro?

2482
02:13:57,000 --> 02:14:00,480
Speaker 2: Like that ship is good. It's good to one hundred

2483
02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:03,120
Speaker 2: percent of the time that it cheers me right up.

2484
02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:08,520
Speaker 2: Just I love those accents. For episode nineteen forty three,

2485
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:12,920
Speaker 2: Brandington is pronounced is not pronounce how it's spelled. It's

2486
02:14:13,160 --> 02:14:18,920
Speaker 2: correct pronouncation. Bradenton, What what was the I or why

2487
02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:27,040
Speaker 2: something English language is so trash? I hollered, Oh, I

2488
02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:29,320
Speaker 2: wish the motherfucker would spit on me because I didn't

2489
02:14:29,320 --> 02:14:32,200
Speaker 2: want to play it to a racist role play. I'm sorry,

2490
02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:34,440
Speaker 2: but you couldn't tell me that white man hadn't shown

2491
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:37,400
Speaker 2: signs or wanting that type of shit throughout their relationship.

2492
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:40,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'll see what it is. Okay, I'll see.

2493
02:14:40,880 --> 02:14:42,680
Speaker 2: You had to make it. You had to make it

2494
02:14:42,680 --> 02:14:47,200
Speaker 2: that way. Mm hmm. Hey, listen, I understand sometimes you

2495
02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:50,080
Speaker 2: just you know, as a black person, you just wanna

2496
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:53,720
Speaker 2: take the black person's side. And but I'm gonna tell

2497
02:14:53,720 --> 02:14:57,600
Speaker 2: you right that that woman might What if you found

2498
02:14:57,640 --> 02:15:02,720
Speaker 2: out she is the third member of dominant silk, Like,

2499
02:15:02,760 --> 02:15:06,200
Speaker 2: what would you do? Know? This is our cousin Rayon

2500
02:15:06,520 --> 02:15:10,440
Speaker 2: and Rayon? Uh, this her white boyfriend, and he said,

2501
02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:11,280
Speaker 2: I'm not with the ship.

2502
02:15:11,360 --> 02:15:13,080
Speaker 1: What is this diamond silk and velvet?

2503
02:15:13,680 --> 02:15:16,720
Speaker 2: She will see this? What if somebody? I wonder if

2504
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:19,720
Speaker 2: it's people doing dominant silk sexual role play. I bet

2505
02:15:19,760 --> 02:15:22,680
Speaker 2: that's the thing. I bet when the Republican Convention comes

2506
02:15:22,720 --> 02:15:26,040
Speaker 2: to town, it's gonna be a motherfucking oh god. The

2507
02:15:26,080 --> 02:15:28,760
Speaker 2: Republican Conventions coming to town this year it is or

2508
02:15:28,840 --> 02:15:32,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. I believe in our town. I wonder if

2509
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:35,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna have dominant silk prostitutes, because you know they

2510
02:15:35,480 --> 02:15:38,400
Speaker 2: always talk about prostitution goes up and sex trafficking goes

2511
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:41,520
Speaker 2: up during the RNC, And I know they're like, it's

2512
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:44,200
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of gay people escorts, and what

2513
02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:47,480
Speaker 2: if they have dominic silk, if like just other women,

2514
02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 2: let look like domindon silk and the terrible wigs just

2515
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:52,520
Speaker 2: walking round downtown.

2516
02:15:52,520 --> 02:15:54,400
Speaker 1: And they're gonna blend in with everybody else. If we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be like, yeah, I know, somebody, get your wied

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Speaker 1: hooked up, girl, I'm not looking for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm just picturing them being on the corner, like with

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02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:08,080
Speaker 2: the one leg out, trying to like be like, who's

2521
02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:11,200
Speaker 2: looking for some of the dominant silk love in the night. Hey,

2522
02:16:11,240 --> 02:16:13,360
Speaker 2: my name is Polyesta. You know what I'm saying. I

2523
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:17,280
Speaker 2: really love I really love to you know, stump for

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Speaker 2: your president. If you know what I'm saying, Let me

2525
02:16:19,480 --> 02:16:21,600
Speaker 2: hopp in the back of this limo real quick, Mitchell O'Connell.

2526
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Speaker 2: I love to show you folks, help me keep my

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Speaker 2: feet playing it in reality and give me a new perspective.

2528
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:31,080
Speaker 2: Looking things y'all are breath fresh air when it comes

2529
02:16:31,080 --> 02:16:34,000
Speaker 2: to the woke Olympics on social media and the hypocrisies

2530
02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:37,160
Speaker 2: of the ones participating. Everybody wants equality but don't want

2531
02:16:37,160 --> 02:16:40,560
Speaker 2: to be fair. Yo. I don't remember if I mentioned

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02:16:40,600 --> 02:16:43,360
Speaker 2: that part or not, but yeah, seeing activists that got

2533
02:16:43,400 --> 02:16:47,520
Speaker 2: accused of being sellouts and used by the man talk

2534
02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:50,280
Speaker 2: about jay Z was such a like head trip to me.

2535
02:16:50,360 --> 02:16:53,280
Speaker 2: And seeing people retweeting and be like mm and I'm

2536
02:16:53,320 --> 02:16:55,879
Speaker 2: like nigga, y'all just retweeting the people saying they shouldn't

2537
02:16:55,920 --> 02:17:00,440
Speaker 2: be at these tables. You know it's boy, there's no

2538
02:17:00,800 --> 02:17:06,160
Speaker 2: it's literally the morals of the moment everything. Uh. I

2539
02:17:06,280 --> 02:17:08,920
Speaker 2: try my best. I'm not always successful. I try my

2540
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:11,680
Speaker 2: best to be like how am I gonna feel about

2541
02:17:11,720 --> 02:17:16,440
Speaker 2: this shit forever. Not I'm mad, And then forty eight

2542
02:17:16,440 --> 02:17:18,280
Speaker 2: hours later, I'm like, I don't even agree with the

2543
02:17:18,320 --> 02:17:20,520
Speaker 2: shit I just said. You know, I hope to try

2544
02:17:20,560 --> 02:17:24,640
Speaker 2: to do a better Yeah, I want to do a

2545
02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:29,200
Speaker 2: better representation of myself than that. I'm not always successful,

2546
02:17:29,240 --> 02:17:32,320
Speaker 2: though it happens all of us. Key Ki says, oh shit,

2547
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:35,320
Speaker 2: never mind, just relisted a part of the iteracial couple,

2548
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Speaker 2: and yeah, fuck that one for trying to get that

2549
02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:39,280
Speaker 2: man do that six shit, she still didn't deserve it.

2550
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Speaker 2: Spit on spit is considered webinars State of Florida webinarizing

2551
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Speaker 2: the ones body fluist. Oh it's definitely a salt race.

2552
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Speaker 2: Play is discussing and racist. Our team kink Shane when

2553
02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:52,000
Speaker 2: it comes to gross kinks like that and anybody who

2554
02:17:52,080 --> 02:17:54,439
Speaker 2: has a problem could take a straw. It suck my ass?

2555
02:17:54,560 --> 02:17:57,040
Speaker 2: Is that a kink? I don't that might be. I

2556
02:17:57,040 --> 02:17:59,760
Speaker 2: don't know what the it might be.

2557
02:18:01,000 --> 02:18:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2558
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:05,480
Speaker 2: I like how she waited till she started right then,

2559
02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:06,880
Speaker 2: and then she listed the rest of the stories like,

2560
02:18:06,879 --> 02:18:09,000
Speaker 2: oh she was cooling it. My bad, y'all. It was

2561
02:18:09,080 --> 02:18:12,000
Speaker 2: it was a polyester and she was down with some

2562
02:18:12,040 --> 02:18:16,200
Speaker 2: clown for the feedback episode eighteen seventeen nineteen. You two

2563
02:18:16,280 --> 02:18:20,800
Speaker 2: are awesome, sauce. This is Katanya who says, did Lady

2564
02:18:20,879 --> 02:18:24,520
Speaker 2: Karen and Sir Roderick thank you to for much for

2565
02:18:24,600 --> 02:18:27,640
Speaker 2: such an awesome and engaging podcast. At first, when I

2566
02:18:27,680 --> 02:18:31,640
Speaker 2: was introduced to YouTube through HBO Vice Peace on a

2567
02:18:31,720 --> 02:18:34,480
Speaker 2: Dam of Thrones and Thrones ahead of the last season

2568
02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:37,080
Speaker 2: of Game of Thrones, I started only listening to YouTube

2569
02:18:37,120 --> 02:18:40,360
Speaker 2: once a week. However, since the beginning of July twenty nineteen,

2570
02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:43,280
Speaker 2: I became a daily listener pretty much as soon as

2571
02:18:43,280 --> 02:18:44,720
Speaker 2: I look at my phone in the morning. I her

2572
02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:47,359
Speaker 2: Fresh Apple podcast app and host of Seeing a new episode.

2573
02:18:47,680 --> 02:18:50,120
Speaker 2: My position at my last place of employement end at

2574
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:53,080
Speaker 2: June twenty eighth, so YouTube have really been helping me

2575
02:18:53,080 --> 02:18:55,000
Speaker 2: get through this time of unemployment and the process and

2576
02:18:55,000 --> 02:19:01,960
Speaker 2: search for a new job. Girl Listen, Okay. I loved

2577
02:19:02,600 --> 02:19:04,960
Speaker 2: Keith and the Girl Down. That was my podcast. I

2578
02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:08,440
Speaker 2: used to listen to my job and I got laid off,

2579
02:19:08,640 --> 02:19:12,000
Speaker 2: and like when you get laid off, like this is

2580
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:14,600
Speaker 2: one thing you had to get Cappa Nick props for

2581
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:16,480
Speaker 2: this nigga wake up at five in the morning and

2582
02:19:16,600 --> 02:19:18,320
Speaker 2: work out every day and he ain't had a job

2583
02:19:18,360 --> 02:19:23,359
Speaker 2: in three years. When I got laid off, whole routine gone.

2584
02:19:23,520 --> 02:19:25,320
Speaker 2: I was sleeping in the noon by three days, and

2585
02:19:25,440 --> 02:19:27,920
Speaker 2: I was like, the fuck life, what is this? You

2586
02:19:27,959 --> 02:19:30,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, I was like, nigga, just

2587
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:33,440
Speaker 2: like people talk about, like I'm laid off, I could

2588
02:19:33,440 --> 02:19:35,440
Speaker 2: go play video games. I was. It was just sad

2589
02:19:35,480 --> 02:19:38,199
Speaker 2: to me cause I'm like, I didn't do anything wrong.

2590
02:19:39,280 --> 02:19:41,480
Speaker 2: You know. It's the difference when you get laid off

2591
02:19:41,480 --> 02:19:43,240
Speaker 2: and you don't get like fired, at least you have

2592
02:19:43,280 --> 02:19:45,200
Speaker 2: a thing when you're like, well, nigga, I was fucking up,

2593
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:47,840
Speaker 2: so they knew what they had to do. But with me,

2594
02:19:47,920 --> 02:19:49,400
Speaker 2: it was like, y'all, I ain't doing nothing wrong. And

2595
02:19:49,440 --> 02:19:51,440
Speaker 2: one of the things that provided me normally was the

2596
02:19:51,480 --> 02:19:54,640
Speaker 2: fact that this podcast is coming out five days a week.

2597
02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:58,760
Speaker 2: I was also premium, so I had their premium shows too,

2598
02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:01,520
Speaker 2: and you know, I would go, you know, on the

2599
02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:05,720
Speaker 2: internet job searching, and you know, it will help me

2600
02:20:05,840 --> 02:20:09,520
Speaker 2: kind of stay sane and stay like with a sense

2601
02:20:09,560 --> 02:20:11,120
Speaker 2: of normalcy because this is what I used to do

2602
02:20:11,160 --> 02:20:13,720
Speaker 2: with my job. I sit at my desk, listen to

2603
02:20:13,720 --> 02:20:16,560
Speaker 2: the podcast, do my work, you know, stuff like that.

2604
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:19,279
Speaker 2: And so now I'm at home, sitting at a desk

2605
02:20:19,480 --> 02:20:22,720
Speaker 2: looking for a job for hour or so a day,

2606
02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:25,360
Speaker 2: putting this stuff in my you know, putting the headphones in,

2607
02:20:25,560 --> 02:20:30,600
Speaker 2: catching up and you know, laughing, hearing the news of

2608
02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:33,080
Speaker 2: the day, hearing what's going on with their lives. And

2609
02:20:34,440 --> 02:20:36,960
Speaker 2: I'll be forever grateful for that, you know. And they

2610
02:20:37,080 --> 02:20:39,920
Speaker 2: was the only like that was a bill. I did

2611
02:20:39,959 --> 02:20:41,400
Speaker 2: not cut off during that time.

2612
02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:42,400
Speaker 1: I was like, we did not.

2613
02:20:42,879 --> 02:20:45,200
Speaker 2: Y'all can have my fifteen dollars a month because I

2614
02:20:45,280 --> 02:20:48,880
Speaker 2: believe what they were doing that service was so valuable.

2615
02:20:49,480 --> 02:20:51,040
Speaker 2: They don't even know it, you know.

2616
02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:55,600
Speaker 1: So we understand when people be like the mother bills,

2617
02:20:55,600 --> 02:20:57,800
Speaker 1: but I keep that bill. We feel you because yeah

2618
02:20:57,879 --> 02:20:58,959
Speaker 1: it's a bill, but.

2619
02:20:59,360 --> 02:21:01,640
Speaker 2: Not just the bill. I'm talking about just listening to us,

2620
02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:03,800
Speaker 2: Like you don't have to do Premier or anything. I'm

2621
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:06,120
Speaker 2: just just the fact that you have something to listen to.

2622
02:21:06,760 --> 02:21:09,240
Speaker 2: They go, yo, I was doing this at work. Now

2623
02:21:09,280 --> 02:21:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm doing this at home in my car running errands.

2624
02:21:13,640 --> 02:21:15,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just it made me not feel

2625
02:21:15,879 --> 02:21:17,760
Speaker 2: like I was in my head or by myself out

2626
02:21:17,760 --> 02:21:20,440
Speaker 2: of time, because you know, life goes on everybody else

2627
02:21:20,480 --> 02:21:23,039
Speaker 2: normally got jobs, so you don't see these motherfuckers. They

2628
02:21:23,080 --> 02:21:25,640
Speaker 2: out at work, and now you're ass in that house

2629
02:21:26,320 --> 02:21:29,520
Speaker 2: every day for how much time? Like it really did help, man,

2630
02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:31,039
Speaker 2: So I'm glad to get.

2631
02:21:30,879 --> 02:21:33,120
Speaker 1: To you, particularly if you let the job define you.

2632
02:21:33,480 --> 02:21:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad to be some help, even if you

2633
02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:37,440
Speaker 2: don't let it defind you. I've never let a job

2634
02:21:37,480 --> 02:21:40,080
Speaker 2: defind me, and I didn't think I was one of

2635
02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:48,279
Speaker 2: these people, but I was, so I felt so unvalued.

2636
02:21:48,480 --> 02:21:51,240
Speaker 2: I know it's not a word valueless. I felt so

2637
02:21:51,520 --> 02:21:55,680
Speaker 2: valueless without a job. Like I didn't let a job

2638
02:21:55,720 --> 02:21:58,240
Speaker 2: defind me, but I did let the idea of having

2639
02:21:58,280 --> 02:22:00,879
Speaker 2: a job to find me. Let work defined me.

2640
02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:03,840
Speaker 1: Right, Let work more than the job, Let work right?

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02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:07,959
Speaker 2: So I really was I really, Like I said, man,

2642
02:22:08,000 --> 02:22:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm glad we could. If it's anything like that, then

2643
02:22:10,240 --> 02:22:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm glad you enjoyed, you know, still enjoyed the show.

2644
02:22:13,760 --> 02:22:15,520
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for inviting us to your thinking

2645
02:22:15,560 --> 02:22:18,160
Speaker 2: process and how you navigate life situations in the news cycle.

2646
02:22:18,160 --> 02:22:20,040
Speaker 2: It's really great to hear the nuance in your thoughts

2647
02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:22,400
Speaker 2: and opinions and how you arrive at them. By doing this,

2648
02:22:23,280 --> 02:22:25,320
Speaker 2: I think you're showing us all that it's okay to

2649
02:22:25,400 --> 02:22:27,440
Speaker 2: change one's mind and that one does not need to

2650
02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:29,200
Speaker 2: stick to a previously held point of view and fear

2651
02:22:29,200 --> 02:22:32,080
Speaker 2: of being called fake as well. Thanks for letting us

2652
02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:34,440
Speaker 2: into your mind on how it works, especially in regards

2653
02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:38,200
Speaker 2: to off the cuff comments. Example, in episode nineteen twenty nine,

2654
02:22:38,360 --> 02:22:41,560
Speaker 2: I made a off the cup confident about the Seventh

2655
02:22:41,640 --> 02:22:45,280
Speaker 2: Day Adventists SDA religion being a colt. When I left

2656
02:22:45,320 --> 02:22:47,760
Speaker 2: a voicemail on the feedback episode nineteen thirty nine state

2657
02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:50,040
Speaker 2: and the SDA is not a coat. Sir Roderick explained he

2658
02:22:50,040 --> 02:22:51,920
Speaker 2: didn't mean any harm and that he doesn't think highly

2659
02:22:52,040 --> 02:22:54,640
Speaker 2: organized religions in general. Yes, it's all coats, just some

2660
02:22:54,840 --> 02:22:57,920
Speaker 2: got more member of some don't know, you know, it's

2661
02:22:57,959 --> 02:23:01,160
Speaker 2: just my opinion. I don't know. I know that sounds

2662
02:23:01,240 --> 02:23:05,600
Speaker 2: very insulting to some people that like, but hey, you know,

2663
02:23:06,080 --> 02:23:11,800
Speaker 2: as somebody that don't believe in any of these religions. Yeah, like,

2664
02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:16,720
Speaker 2: it's just some colds got billion members and some got

2665
02:23:16,879 --> 02:23:18,879
Speaker 2: you know, two hundred, and it just seemed to be

2666
02:23:18,920 --> 02:23:22,039
Speaker 2: a lot of judgment. I still don't know why scientology.

2667
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:25,520
Speaker 2: Well I know now because I've seen the document. Well,

2668
02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:29,560
Speaker 2: actually no, I'm gonna take that back. I don't know

2669
02:23:29,560 --> 02:23:32,640
Speaker 2: why scientology is considered so much worse than the other religions.

2670
02:23:33,800 --> 02:23:36,640
Speaker 2: I mean, they probably have had less time to do

2671
02:23:36,680 --> 02:23:41,160
Speaker 2: as much dirt as some of the other shit. They

2672
02:23:41,160 --> 02:23:43,440
Speaker 2: ain't got hundreds of bodies of homes buried under the

2673
02:23:43,520 --> 02:23:48,240
Speaker 2: Vatican and shit like just all perspective. Thanks so much

2674
02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:50,320
Speaker 2: for riding the safe space for all of us your

2675
02:23:50,400 --> 02:23:53,480
Speaker 2: listeners to take chances and grow. I wouldn't call it safe,

2676
02:23:53,520 --> 02:23:56,959
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm glad y'all feel such. I listened

2677
02:23:56,959 --> 02:23:59,680
Speaker 2: to quite a few podcasts, however, I've never left voicemails

2678
02:23:59,680 --> 02:24:02,000
Speaker 2: for any you know. Ah, wow, your podcast is the

2679
02:24:02,000 --> 02:24:03,959
Speaker 2: first one that I left a couple of voicemails for

2680
02:24:04,080 --> 02:24:06,360
Speaker 2: in case you need even minded. I was the one

2681
02:24:06,440 --> 02:24:08,560
Speaker 2: last week that was so nervous. I said a little

2682
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:11,879
Speaker 2: Richie instead of little Richard. I almost ain't the episode that,

2683
02:24:11,959 --> 02:24:14,280
Speaker 2: but I was like, if she feels self conscious about that,

2684
02:24:14,360 --> 02:24:16,640
Speaker 2: then it might feel like we're picking on her. But

2685
02:24:16,680 --> 02:24:19,720
Speaker 2: I just thought it was adorable. It was cute left

2686
02:24:19,760 --> 02:24:22,200
Speaker 2: for voicemails instead of one. Thanks for your patience and

2687
02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:24,440
Speaker 2: I will work on this so I give my message

2688
02:24:24,480 --> 02:24:27,200
Speaker 2: down to two minutes. Hey, it's it's it's stressful, man,

2689
02:24:28,080 --> 02:24:31,760
Speaker 2: you go by fast. We definitely have a I used

2690
02:24:31,760 --> 02:24:34,760
Speaker 2: to call the radio shows and leave voicemails for shows

2691
02:24:34,760 --> 02:24:37,120
Speaker 2: that I liked, and yeah, man, you got like. I

2692
02:24:37,160 --> 02:24:39,040
Speaker 2: had to be focused. I had to write a list down.

2693
02:24:39,240 --> 02:24:40,280
Speaker 1: That's what I used to do.

2694
02:24:40,600 --> 02:24:41,760
Speaker 2: I took my shit seriously.

2695
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:43,080
Speaker 1: I had a little clock up in the corner. I

2696
02:24:43,120 --> 02:24:43,640
Speaker 1: was looking at it.

2697
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:47,519
Speaker 2: Question, how'd you come up with the name of your podcast?

2698
02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:48,120
Speaker 1: Uh?

2699
02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:50,680
Speaker 2: So we had. I had a blog called The Black

2700
02:24:50,680 --> 02:24:53,680
Speaker 2: Guy Who Tips dot Tumblr or some shit or dots.

2701
02:24:53,959 --> 02:24:58,160
Speaker 2: I forget. It wasn't even Tumblr, it was blog spot,

2702
02:24:58,200 --> 02:25:01,240
Speaker 2: it was block spot. It's defunct now I think I

2703
02:25:01,360 --> 02:25:04,800
Speaker 2: deleted everything. But I used to just write these. I've

2704
02:25:04,840 --> 02:25:07,240
Speaker 2: always kind of been funny, and I've always been creative,

2705
02:25:07,280 --> 02:25:09,520
Speaker 2: and I've always I actually used to write a lot more,

2706
02:25:11,280 --> 02:25:13,560
Speaker 2: and like I used to write poetry and all this stuff.

2707
02:25:13,560 --> 02:25:15,560
Speaker 2: But then I just started writing like comedy stuff, and

2708
02:25:15,640 --> 02:25:22,240
Speaker 2: I write skit rap parodies like you know, and I

2709
02:25:22,320 --> 02:25:23,879
Speaker 2: used to just pass them around to my friends and

2710
02:25:23,920 --> 02:25:25,959
Speaker 2: emails and stuff, and they're like, you should start a blog,

2711
02:25:26,480 --> 02:25:28,120
Speaker 2: you know. I still remember some of them, like the

2712
02:25:28,200 --> 02:25:32,880
Speaker 2: ten Week Commandments and shit like that, and so I

2713
02:25:32,920 --> 02:25:35,240
Speaker 2: was like, all right, if y'all read it, I don't know,

2714
02:25:35,240 --> 02:25:38,039
Speaker 2: ahad and write it. So I made the Blackouts blog

2715
02:25:38,120 --> 02:25:40,199
Speaker 2: and I wrote I came up with that name because

2716
02:25:41,320 --> 02:25:43,240
Speaker 2: they always say that we don't tap. Me and Cam

2717
02:25:43,320 --> 02:25:46,760
Speaker 2: w waitresses. A waiter at a waitress. We wait wait staff.

2718
02:25:46,879 --> 02:25:50,320
Speaker 2: We were waiters. I don't know we were waitresses. Why

2719
02:25:50,360 --> 02:25:52,800
Speaker 2: the man wouldn't always get to be multiple plural right?

2720
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:53,200
Speaker 3: Right?

2721
02:25:53,320 --> 02:25:57,520
Speaker 2: We were waitresses, okay, And we used to wait tables

2722
02:25:57,520 --> 02:26:00,880
Speaker 2: and stuff. And the thing I noticed was the people

2723
02:26:00,920 --> 02:26:03,520
Speaker 2: I worked with they didn't like sitting in the black tables.

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02:26:03,560 --> 02:26:06,640
Speaker 2: They didn't like to do to be awake to wait

2725
02:26:06,680 --> 02:26:09,160
Speaker 2: on them, and they would give them away.

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02:26:09,280 --> 02:26:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Roger go out to eat. Sometimes we

2727
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:13,000
Speaker 1: can tell when they give us away because it takes

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02:26:13,040 --> 02:26:14,360
Speaker 1: for l for them to come to the table.

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02:26:14,440 --> 02:26:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't want that table.

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02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:18,959
Speaker 1: Yes, you can tell. They back there doing rock paper

2731
02:26:18,959 --> 02:26:20,440
Speaker 1: scissors to decide if they want.

2732
02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:23,720
Speaker 2: Us, right, And I didn't know it was racist at first,

2733
02:26:23,720 --> 02:26:25,640
Speaker 2: So I just be like, oh, wow, everybody's giving me

2734
02:26:25,640 --> 02:26:27,480
Speaker 2: their table. It's so cool. But they'd be like, I

2735
02:26:27,520 --> 02:26:29,000
Speaker 2: trade you that you get this table and then to

2736
02:26:29,000 --> 02:26:32,760
Speaker 2: get another one later or whatever. And I used to

2737
02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:35,039
Speaker 2: be like cool, And what they were really saying was

2738
02:26:35,080 --> 02:26:37,360
Speaker 2: these black people aren't gonna tip me. Correct Now, I

2739
02:26:37,440 --> 02:26:39,600
Speaker 2: never had an issue getting to some black people, but

2740
02:26:39,680 --> 02:26:42,760
Speaker 2: I also also didn't come up with the racist thought

2741
02:26:42,840 --> 02:26:44,680
Speaker 2: in my mind that I wasn't getting the tip. So,

2742
02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:47,480
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's kind of self fulfilling prophecy

2743
02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:49,560
Speaker 2: at that point, I'm gonna give you shitty service and

2744
02:26:49,600 --> 02:26:52,080
Speaker 2: then go, you ain't gonna tip me anyway, you know.

2745
02:26:53,360 --> 02:26:56,200
Speaker 2: And so when people say like, black people don't tip,

2746
02:26:56,280 --> 02:26:58,040
Speaker 2: and I don't know if they still say that a lot,

2747
02:26:58,080 --> 02:27:00,240
Speaker 2: but they used to say it definitely a lot, And

2748
02:27:00,280 --> 02:27:02,320
Speaker 2: there was a lot of jokes and shit about it,

2749
02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:04,680
Speaker 2: even on the radio show here, on the sports show,

2750
02:27:04,720 --> 02:27:06,200
Speaker 2: they made jokes about it and ship the the c

2751
02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:09,360
Speaker 2: I Double A, which decided not to be in Charlotte anymore.

2752
02:27:09,400 --> 02:27:11,199
Speaker 2: Now they begging for that money, but fuck.

2753
02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:14,120
Speaker 1: Y'all, I'm glad they left. I hate to be like that,

2754
02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:16,240
Speaker 1: I know left money, but fuck.

2755
02:27:16,200 --> 02:27:22,200
Speaker 2: The fuck them. Yes. So, so anyway, so the black

2756
02:27:22,240 --> 02:27:26,400
Speaker 2: people don't tip thing, I would be like, well that

2757
02:27:26,480 --> 02:27:29,080
Speaker 2: I don't think it's true. I worked in the in

2758
02:27:29,120 --> 02:27:31,920
Speaker 2: this game, I think black people don't tip when they

2759
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:34,560
Speaker 2: feel like they're getting shitty service, but nobody does. That's

2760
02:27:34,560 --> 02:27:37,520
Speaker 2: not I think we get shittier service than white people.

2761
02:27:38,760 --> 02:27:41,840
Speaker 2: And so I said, okay, well I'll be the black

2762
02:27:41,879 --> 02:27:44,360
Speaker 2: guy who tips y'all. Now, y'all can't say no black

2763
02:27:44,360 --> 02:27:47,080
Speaker 2: people tip. I do, so you know at least one

2764
02:27:48,120 --> 02:27:49,840
Speaker 2: that the goal is to be like, there's only one,

2765
02:27:49,959 --> 02:27:52,600
Speaker 2: it's nigga, you know, at least one, so stop saying

2766
02:27:52,600 --> 02:27:56,240
Speaker 2: that racist bullshit. Come anyway. That's how the title started.

2767
02:27:56,240 --> 02:27:58,800
Speaker 2: It was when we started the podcast, Careen. I came

2768
02:27:58,840 --> 02:28:01,120
Speaker 2: to Karen like, yo, we should do it podcast. I

2769
02:28:01,160 --> 02:28:02,959
Speaker 2: want you to be my co host. She's like you sure,

2770
02:28:03,040 --> 02:28:05,400
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yes, you're gonna be great, and she's like,

2771
02:28:05,480 --> 02:28:08,879
Speaker 2: I don't know about this, right, I don't know? And

2772
02:28:09,120 --> 02:28:11,280
Speaker 2: I said, you know, we call it something. You know,

2773
02:28:11,320 --> 02:28:13,440
Speaker 2: we had to come up with a name, and she

2774
02:28:13,680 --> 02:28:15,920
Speaker 2: was like, well you should call we should just call

2775
02:28:15,920 --> 02:28:18,760
Speaker 2: it the Blackout Tips because if I'm not good, you

2776
02:28:18,760 --> 02:28:21,520
Speaker 2: can get another host. And that's really why we got

2777
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:21,920
Speaker 2: this name.

2778
02:28:22,720 --> 02:28:24,720
Speaker 1: And it's not called Karen Show.

2779
02:28:24,680 --> 02:28:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I mean, I guess in hindsight, blackout Tips

2780
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:29,400
Speaker 2: is a better name than what I would have come

2781
02:28:29,480 --> 02:28:32,120
Speaker 2: up with, which probably would have been Riding Karen or

2782
02:28:32,160 --> 02:28:35,960
Speaker 2: some shit, and with some generic we would have had

2783
02:28:35,959 --> 02:28:39,640
Speaker 2: the most like generic ass name. And people like when

2784
02:28:39,640 --> 02:28:43,160
Speaker 2: they google search black in podcast found us, they would

2785
02:28:43,160 --> 02:28:44,080
Speaker 2: have never found us.

2786
02:28:44,680 --> 02:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Because we didn't know that that's how people finded us

2787
02:28:46,959 --> 02:28:48,760
Speaker 1: to people like, yeah, I just went in and tight

2788
02:28:48,879 --> 02:28:50,480
Speaker 1: black and you came up.

2789
02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's how the name got happened, and it

2790
02:28:53,480 --> 02:28:56,560
Speaker 2: just stuck and it's catchy, and honestly, it's kind of

2791
02:28:56,560 --> 02:28:59,039
Speaker 2: a litmus test. I find like, if you're okay with

2792
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:01,240
Speaker 2: the name, you're probably okay with our sense of humor

2793
02:29:01,320 --> 02:29:03,560
Speaker 2: and correct. If you're not okay with the name, you

2794
02:29:03,680 --> 02:29:05,879
Speaker 2: probably are want them people that assumes the worst out

2795
02:29:05,879 --> 02:29:07,600
Speaker 2: of shit all the time. And you don't need to

2796
02:29:07,640 --> 02:29:10,600
Speaker 2: be listening to this, you know, like you take shit

2797
02:29:10,680 --> 02:29:14,360
Speaker 2: a little too serious. So all right, by the way,

2798
02:29:14,480 --> 02:29:16,400
Speaker 2: carry your jokes and comedic time and have been on

2799
02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:22,320
Speaker 2: point this week. Best regards, Thank you, and y'all saw

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02:29:22,360 --> 02:29:28,720
Speaker 2: your ps. And I don't listen to that podcast, but

2801
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't even know where I heard the

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Speaker 2: term the shade of it all from but now it

2803
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Speaker 2: wasn't from now. I don't watch drag Race. And that's

2804
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Speaker 2: not like a like homophobic choice. I just I just

2805
02:29:40,600 --> 02:29:44,119
Speaker 2: never have watched drag Race, and I don't like reality

2806
02:29:44,160 --> 02:29:51,160
Speaker 2: TV show competitions. So all right, now I do have

2807
02:29:51,200 --> 02:29:53,520
Speaker 2: to make this joke, Ashley. This is all last email,

2808
02:29:53,640 --> 02:29:56,000
Speaker 2: And actually I don't want you to be upset, but

2809
02:29:56,600 --> 02:29:59,120
Speaker 2: it's so funny to me. It's such a black way.

2810
02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:03,119
Speaker 2: So the title of this email is Jakaris a million.

2811
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Speaker 2: But it's not drug cars d R A C, not

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Speaker 2: drug cards like like Game of Thrones. It's Jue cars

2813
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Speaker 2: jac a. And that sounds like a running back for

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Speaker 2: like Oklahoma You carus Jacaris Jenkins, Jacaris Jenkins lineback of

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Speaker 2: Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: Your cars Welcome Jacaris Johnson.

2817
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Speaker 2: Jakaris you know he used play quarterback for the Raiders

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Speaker 2: back in ninety five.

2819
02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:35,680
Speaker 1: Oh and I like that name.

2820
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Speaker 2: I like it. It might be the title of episode Jacaris. Uh.

2821
02:30:40,560 --> 02:30:42,440
Speaker 2: Good morning, Rider, Carroll. Let me start by saying, I

2822
02:30:42,440 --> 02:30:44,360
Speaker 2: aslutely love your show. I've been listening a little over

2823
02:30:44,360 --> 02:30:46,800
Speaker 2: a year now, been in love since the first episode.

2824
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Speaker 2: Your show has me laughing even well, at the show

2825
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Speaker 2: is ended, I tell everyone I encountered about the show,

2826
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Speaker 2: even my uber drivers, cashiers, bartenders and all wow's read

2827
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Speaker 2: the word. I'll started my morning walk star listen to

2828
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Speaker 2: your show, singing the tunes and responding as if I

2829
02:31:00,560 --> 02:31:02,959
Speaker 2: was there listening live. I ordered my merch so that

2830
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Speaker 2: I could celebrate, Oh your wedding anniversary September second, and

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Speaker 2: ordered my shirt early so I could start rapping early

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Speaker 2: you want a rocket we all wearing blackout tip stuff

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Speaker 2: that day, go out the house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the search check TVGWT and I page will

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Speaker 1: pop right on up for your nigga. And it's not

2839
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Speaker 1: just shirt shy'all, it's all types.

2840
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Speaker 2: Of stuff yah teapublic dot com. Uh. Well, Then when

2841
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Speaker 2: I arrived home and discovered, oh I got okay, I

2842
02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:41,120
Speaker 2: got to receive the text my shirt was delivered, and

2843
02:31:41,200 --> 02:31:44,120
Speaker 2: excited to try home, try it on the home. Then

2844
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Speaker 2: I received when I received, well, when I received the

2845
02:31:47,440 --> 02:31:49,240
Speaker 2: oh wait, okay, so you got the text? Okay, you

2846
02:31:49,280 --> 02:31:51,800
Speaker 2: went home. Well, when I arrived home and discovered some

2847
02:31:51,920 --> 02:31:59,640
Speaker 2: mofos stole my package, Oh, Jacaris, Jacaris Jacarlis I hope that.

2848
02:32:00,080 --> 02:32:03,400
Speaker 2: Hope the thief at least checks out your podcast at

2849
02:32:03,480 --> 02:32:07,560
Speaker 2: Enjoydia show and some shot of remorse runs through their

2850
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:10,000
Speaker 2: body when they realized they stole from a dope fan

2851
02:32:10,200 --> 02:32:13,039
Speaker 2: just trying to rep for their favorite podcasters. Wow, I

2852
02:32:13,080 --> 02:32:13,400
Speaker 2: hate that.

2853
02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:16,000
Speaker 1: Shirt.

2854
02:32:16,280 --> 02:32:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, hit up their customer service. They will sing you

2855
02:32:18,920 --> 02:32:24,400
Speaker 2: another one right uh tvg dot fan watch your packages

2856
02:32:24,440 --> 02:32:26,240
Speaker 2: and rep for me though I will not be able

2857
02:32:26,280 --> 02:32:29,120
Speaker 2: to anyways. I love you both, sad, I'll be suspending

2858
02:32:29,160 --> 02:32:32,200
Speaker 2: some time this morning filing a missing package report. Hudsond

2859
02:32:32,240 --> 02:32:36,400
Speaker 2: kisses your second biggest fan. Oh, I'm so sorry to

2860
02:32:36,440 --> 02:32:40,000
Speaker 2: hear that. Yeah, email them. They are they know us

2861
02:32:40,040 --> 02:32:45,240
Speaker 2: over there. They're very nice and yeah, they will send

2862
02:32:45,280 --> 02:32:48,240
Speaker 2: you a send you. They will typically sing you some

2863
02:32:48,280 --> 02:32:52,920
Speaker 2: type of replacement or something. Man, damn, that's terrible. All right,

2864
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:57,040
Speaker 2: that's it guys. Appreciate y'all and yeah, we'll talk to

2865
02:32:57,080 --> 02:33:03,160
Speaker 2: you guys soon tomorrow probably Until then, I love you.

2866
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Speaker 1: I love you too, my