1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: Blue Joe, Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: everything cannabis. Welcome to Cannabis Talk one oh one with 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: Blue Joe, Grande and Mark and Craig Washerman, the Pop 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. I hope you're having a great time 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: with your families as we are coming to the end 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: of the year starting the new year. It's the holiday 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: time and us as Cannabis Talk one on one. We 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: kind of took a little vacation, but I wanted to 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: play for you guys a podcast that Mark and I 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: did on How Mark Met Janet. Janet is Mark's wife. 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: Mark and I got to sit down and do the 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Grande a wash show. We figured, you know what might 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: as well air for you guys. You guys can have 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: a listen. It's Cannabis Talk one on one special edition 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: of How Mark Met His Wife Janet. It's Grande and 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: wass Welcome to the show, you guys. Mark, how you 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: doing brother, I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Yes, thank 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: you so much for the other day. In taking two 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: hours out of your day to come and pick me up. 22 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, because unless you follow, of 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: course the pop Brothers at law, you would have seen 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: him complaining about coming to get me because my car 25 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: broke down. But I just want to make sure I 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: think you and let everybody out there know what a 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: great guy you are to go two hours out of 28 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: your way because of traffic to come pick me up 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: and then belly back another two hours. We were in 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: the We're in his car so long that his car 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: actually told him to pull over and take a break. 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: That's what it's geared to do. That was great. So 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: today on the Grande Wash episode, you guys, Mark, I 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: want to talk to you and ask you how did 35 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: you meet your wife? Because every once in a while 36 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: when I look at blue and I look at pictures, 37 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: I go, dude, Mark's wife's hot. He's got three beautiful kids. 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: And that goes that. I'm like, did he order her 39 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: or something? Because you know she's Asian to sit to 40 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: him like, and I know how you are, you're kind 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: of crazy like that. I don't know if that's the case. 42 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Are you met her online or these? Oay? So how 43 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: did you meet this beautiful hot Filipino. Okay, the nutshell 44 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: one liner is, oh, you guys have your like what 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: we what you say to people real quick? Well, I 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: mean that's I really actually, I really don't like to 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: say this real quick, but it's kind of it's funny, 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: you know at the end of the day, and it's not. 49 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: But when I tell people, well she no, no, come 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: on that girl go down. Well, I don't know, you're out. 51 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to guess. Can't spit it out. 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: If you're spitting, let me get it out and tell 53 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: you that she said get it out at what? At 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: At one point I had a client who had a fiance. 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: She was my clients fiance. Are you effing kidding me? 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: I am not effing kidding you. This is going to 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: FM radio? Is that why we're not? Because I just 58 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: don't like it's just part of my I don't know, 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: and am I not supposed to cut you know you 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: about that. We never talked about whatever you want. I 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: just know where more people will listen, and if they're 62 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: listening with their kids, they don't want it to so 63 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, we please more by not. I appreciate that, 64 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: but you know, if our kids are listening going, Dad, 65 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: I want to listen to your show. Oh my god, 66 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Joe is a potty mouth. You know. Can you imagine 67 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: what I'm dealing with it the STF you nation? Not 68 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: only that your daughter is like at this at the end, Dad, 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: and she's like six, So I can only imagine. Okay, 70 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: So I gave you the zinger, which sounds like you're 71 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: a home record, is basically you met your wife because 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: and so the story and he was your clients, takes 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: a kind of sad turn once I really tell you 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: how it fully happened, and this is what happened, and 75 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: I have to go back. So the set is really 76 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: the truth, but now there's deeper reasons than this and 77 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: that they're making it okay, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. 78 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean that's the that's that's what I said. That's 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: a fact. You know that. That's a fact. Make sure 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: I never hired you from my looker. I'm marking that 81 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: down right now. But the way it ultimately came to 82 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: pass this is this is uh, this is how this 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: is what we're talking about. So so we're talking about 84 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: like nineteen one of my best friends said, hey, I 85 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: uh yeah, it was because it was my best friend's 86 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: wife at that time, one of my best friends from 87 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: high school. His wife had had an associate she worked 88 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: with that They thought I would like. They knew my type, 89 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: they knew I liked you always like the Asian. Oh well, 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: I grew up in Serrito's going to high school. That 91 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: was you know, me and two other Jews and maybe 92 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: four other white guys. Uh, you know it was predominantly azy. 93 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: Did your brother every marrian A you know, my brothers 94 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: went to a different high school in Cerritos. Yes, you were. 95 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: They went to the helmet arm when you went to school, 96 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: and I was just saying I had all the brains 97 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: I was. I was in the little yellow bus and 98 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: you went to the agent school. I had to be 99 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: driven by my parents over over there to the bus. 100 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: They went. Oh that's of course there was horse and 101 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: the district were out of the district, all right, I 102 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: see that being the case they growing up in Cerritos. 103 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's melting pot. Oh yeah, a melting part 104 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: of Asians. So many different types of this and that. Well, 105 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: and we were there before that when it was just cows. 106 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: That was there a certain type of age, like can 107 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: you tell the difference between Filipino, Japanese, Chinese, Singapore, can you, 108 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: because I mean the Asian pretty pretty much. Really, I 109 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: think so, I'm pretty much you know, I've I've been 110 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: around it because in that area there's a lot of 111 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: those and you got to really actually find the I mean, 112 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: you can see the difference there a little bit. I 113 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: can't only a little. No, I'm not that great at 114 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: And it's also in the in the in the language 115 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: and the dialect and you know those types of things. Now, 116 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: out of all the different asans Uh descents, was there 117 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: one that you were attracted to more Filipino? Oh? Really? 118 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: So the Filipinos you were tracked And that might have 119 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: been because a few of my best friends early on 120 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: from high schoo junior high through high school, we're Filipinos. 121 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: And I'm assuming you were in Filipino dance groups as 122 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: well as I was in a breakdance group. Yeahs, just 123 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: rolling the dice on that. Growing up in our era, 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, you're breakdancing on basketballs and the cardboard beat 125 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: Street came out breaking electric buggaloo, all those grea. Oh yeah, 126 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I know I got 127 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: kicked out of many malls for breakdancing and what's your 128 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: Filipino brothers? Right, and not all that. My boy j 129 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: C's Filipino. I joked with him about it all the time, 130 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: and growing up with all the other Filipino friends and 131 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area and Milpitas, Uh, there was a 132 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: city there and a lot of Filipinos and there are 133 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: a lot. They're called the jet Rockers, and they were 134 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: just dope dancers back in the day and still are. 135 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of good dance. It's crazy 136 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: though now they do things now that I mean, these 137 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: aerial moves and all this creat I just feel like 138 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: there's a strong movement in the Filipino movement for dancing, 139 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: even like when you watch these dance shows and the 140 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: kid Yeah, it's just funny how and even I mentioned 141 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: that to a bunch I could do what is that 142 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: because it's just part of our culture. We'd like to dance, 143 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: and the hip hop is is strong with it. And 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: even when you watch a lot of these shows, a 145 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: lot of these groups are Filipino groups. And it's always 146 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: been that way too. Yeah, it's funny even growing up 147 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: for me too. That's why I pointed out going I 148 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: remember a bunch of the jet rocks and this and that, 149 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: and they were dope. So so you were always attracted 150 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: to Filipino men? And then when did you start Sorry, 151 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: that's another that's another segment for another day. So how 152 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: did you meet your lovely wife in exactly? Your friends? 153 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: I got a friend for you, I got I got 154 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: a friend for you guys, and they actually they tried 155 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: to hook us up over like a two or three 156 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: year period. Was she from Serrino's No? Where was she 157 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: from South Bay? South that? Not even that? Yeah? Yeah, 158 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: and so like I would getta call, hey, Mark, We're 159 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: going out with my wife and her friend Janet. Can 160 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: you go? And I'm no, I'm don't know why. I 161 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: was thinking you were younger. So you're older at this point? No, 162 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean no, this is this is but the ody's married. Yeah, 163 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: oh he got he got married. Yeah, he got married 164 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: in he got married in ninete seven, So you know what, jeez, 165 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: how long ago is that? That's third that's like thirty 166 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: five something. He got married around twenty five some around 167 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: twenty five six? Be married or just knowing her? What 168 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: have you been married for twenty five plus years? No? No, no, 169 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: you're mixed. I was the story. I was around I 170 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: was around I was around six. When when we actually 171 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: finally met, when I was about twenty three twenty four, 172 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: that's when they were trying to set us Okay, now 173 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: I got do you think you were taking me down 174 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: the time we're trying to set us up? But I 175 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: was busy she was maybe never whatever, right, And then uh, 176 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: sometime in ninety I think it was sometime in my 177 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: buddy calls me, Hey, I have a DUI case for you. 178 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: So he had a referral for me. Okay, send it over. 179 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: He was. He's a drunken mess. Perfect time to swoop 180 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: in on a vulnerable woman. You're gonna feel that you're 181 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: gonna feel bad for saying what you just said, because 182 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: I'm what what happened was. So she came to me, 183 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: came to my office with her younger with her younger 184 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: fiancee who got a d U I, who got a 185 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: d U I, And I just got curious how high 186 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: was it was? Like, I mean, was it just over 187 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: because there's a difference in DUIs in my opinion your 188 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: point nine, It's like, damn you, it was like that. 189 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: It wasn't like it's some extreme crazy. But do you know, 190 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: if you're like point nine, you're like, dude, that sucks. 191 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have got coped. But damn that was close. 192 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: And and you know, bringing this all back around, he 193 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: didn't stf you when he was going through all the 194 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: deal with the cops that you know, during the incident. 195 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: And and of course we weren't actually out there screaming 196 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: it all over the nation and over the world back 197 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: then anyway, But it was just a standard you guys 198 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: want yet by that point yet not yet. Bill Handel 199 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: didn't say, hey, pop, brothers in law, I want to 200 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: get you guys all the show here. Well, he really 201 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: just wanted me true, he has never met your brother's 202 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: I felt I had to tell my brother that the 203 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: interview is coming. There's two of us coming. So the 204 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: guy comes in with his lovely fiance. Well she comes 205 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: in with him. And I say that because she wrote 206 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: the retainer check. She was you know, she's she's always 207 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: been independent. She has a good job at a had 208 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: a good job at a UH firm that does um 209 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: all sorts of advertisement stuff and movies stuff and whatever, 210 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, all sorts of packaging and shipping and creating 211 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: all these things. And she was a project manager, so 212 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: she paid the freight. And when I when she walked in, 213 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: this is this is the first time I'd ever seen her. 214 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: I knew who she was. And because they were trying 215 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: to set us up for a few years before two 216 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: and two together, is that well I knew. My My 217 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: my buddy told me, he goes, you know this, this 218 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: this is the janit girl that we've been trying to 219 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: set you up. But she's engaged now and you blew 220 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 1: it and in fiance, you got a d U I, 221 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: so you might as well make some money. I said, yeah, great, 222 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: of course, no problem. That's like sorry exactly to check plea. 223 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: He he's so she so she walks in with him, 224 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: and I immediately I'm like, yeah, I could see why 225 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: they were trying to set I've never even seen her. 226 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: That was the first time. And I bet she was 227 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: just because she still looks great. I mean three kids 228 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: later and she's still hot, so I can imagine then 229 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: just I mean now she's aside, you know one, she 230 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: was zero back then, just coming in and that's after 231 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: three kids now. But but yeah, you walked in and 232 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, okay, And so I would the 233 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: case take the case. I'm working the case. You didn't 234 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: send him with jail just so that you can get her, 235 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: did you? Months Months go by, months go by, you know, 236 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm still I'm dealing with the kids. Months go by, 237 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: and I get a call one morning from my buddy 238 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: and he goes, did you hear about your client? And 239 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: I which, what what would you talking about? He goes, 240 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, your client, that Janet's fiance. Oh, there you go, 241 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: I said, no, what he died? How uh kind of 242 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: like Hank Gathers heart thing? He was playing basketball? So 243 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: fluke just he didn't know murmur no previous heart problem. 244 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: Just twenty some year old, young dude healthy. What did 245 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: he look good too? And just actually it wasn't like 246 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: a big old thing that can happen. Yeah. Yeah, So 247 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: and that was I was like, wow, you know. And 248 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: so so I had to get in touch with her 249 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: to get the death certificate to close the case out 250 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: so she doesn't keep receiving, you know. And so I mean, 251 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: and you I have to. I'm gonna under a duty 252 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: to let the court know that this case is over. 253 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: In the d plus, you probably wanted another payment because 254 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I was already paid. So do you have something like that? No, 255 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering. I don't know. I still have dies. 256 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: Do I have to pay you in full? And they died? 257 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that doesn't make sense to me. Why would 258 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: I know? Because I still still have to finish the case. 259 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: I still have to go back. I've already been to court. 260 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: Did was what I'm wondering as well? Did you say 261 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: that's a w in my book? I you're so bad. 262 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: I just wonder. I never thought about it. I never, 263 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: But now that you do, right now, now that well, 264 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: it's not a loss. You've got three kids out of it. 265 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of a win win win win four winds 266 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: actually five. I had to deal with this situation where 267 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: I had. You know, it was very uncomfortable. Oh that's 268 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: so sad and so horrible for her so and no 269 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: wonder why she felt for you, because she was so 270 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: vulnerable and just so so. I gave her a call 271 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: and said, you know, my condolences. At some point, I'm 272 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: going to need the death certificate. You know, whenever you 273 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: have it, you get it. What you know, there's no rush, 274 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, whatever I can months, it doesn't matter. So 275 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: and by the way, do you want to go out 276 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: of a day? No, no, no, no. So I don't know. 277 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: It might have been a couple of weeks later or whatever. 278 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: She called me up. I have the death certificate and 279 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: wow what she stores. She goes, I can come to 280 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: your office to dry and she my office is Orange County, 281 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Orange County, Stanton. That's right right near Anaheim, Westminster. It 282 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: feels like it's the same. They're all the same little 283 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: cities right there. She's out in the South Bay and 284 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: she was living in Lomida at the time. And I said, 285 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll pick a place that's near your house, 286 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: a restaurant or something, and I'll come out there so 287 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: you don't have to drive out here, you know. And 288 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: I did that for a lot of clients. I was. 289 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: That was in the beginning of my career. I had 290 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: just become an attorney in s And this is before 291 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: you got real bougie now. And I'm not going to 292 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: go there and talk to sign, write to check and 293 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: leave it with them and make sure the check. And 294 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: I made a lot of house calls I'd just to 295 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: go check on. There's only a few reasons why you 296 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: do that. A guy like you, I know you. I 297 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: gotta get to know my clients inside it out. So 298 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: here's the wall he's back at. So so we ended 299 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: up meeting at a t G I t G I 300 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Fridays in Torrance, and she brought her her niece, had 301 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: a little niece with her, and um, we sat down, 302 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: I gave she gave me the death certificate, and I 303 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: answered a few questions and then we just started talking. 304 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: How long hour maybe two and a half hours, maybe 305 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: two and a half hours talking and the little nie 306 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, looking at you, going she's going anti, No, 307 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: he's a dirt back well. And then I'm driving home. 308 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm driving back to my house. Come, this is ridiculous. 309 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: What because you felt the feeling, you felt the connection? Yes, 310 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: there was, and not only that, the previous history she 311 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: knows people were trying to hook her up with you. 312 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: You know, they were trying to hook so her friends 313 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: are thinking, she's thinking, I can see why maybe that 314 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: I was supposed to get hooked up with this guy. 315 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: So then so then we talk on the phone over 316 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: like the next week or two. We're like every night, 317 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, every day whatever we're talking, we're talking and 318 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: then she goes Amy and some of my friends are 319 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: going to a movie. You know, we're going to movie 320 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: and dinner. You want to come? And okay? And I went, 321 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: and you know, her group of like, you know, maybe 322 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: six or seven people, a couple of two couples, a 323 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: couple of friend they've all since high school whatever, been friends, 324 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, these guys are looking at me 325 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: like what are you doing? What? What? Who is? What's 326 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: going on? What's wrong with you? And she was and 327 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: so I know, there's a lot of history guys. So 328 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: so we started hanging out. And this was the first 329 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: time for me probably since high school prior to that, 330 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: that I was actually hanging out with the woman with 331 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: no first intention of just I want to get in 332 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: a sack, whoa watch out? I want to probably I'm 333 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: going to strike us in this room right now, this 334 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: is well and so and so it was weird. It 335 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: was weird for me, right because I had just been 336 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: a friend. You're just trying to be cool and hang 337 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, just talking to you like whatever, and you're 338 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: going so much. When when I was twenty two and 339 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: went through my first engagement and was cheated on, I 340 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: had no intention of ever getting married again or having kids. 341 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: I was just out there. Oh I didn't know this part. 342 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: So before you met your wife you were engaged. What 343 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: do you mean that's part of the lead. You missed 344 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: that up on the beginning of the story because I 345 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: like to put that one out of my mind. That's 346 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: a good one. You got to talk about Janet's dead 347 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: husband and not your dead beating or who cheated on you. 348 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: You scummed back. She's living in Alaska now. But I digress, 349 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: I digress. I bet you're gonna go see when you 350 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: go out there. That's why you're going to Alaska. That's funny. 351 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: You just put that together right now. No, that's this 352 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: guy Alaska for set this up. Don't wonder where you 353 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: keep sending me that number. That by the way, that's 354 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: too funny, ironic, that's a scenario. We'll do our failed 355 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: engagements and marriages segments some other exactly. So, so we 356 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: start hanging out. And then I asked her to come 357 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: to my grandmother's ninetieth birthday party up at your family that. 358 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those it's some strong genes. It's crazy. And 359 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: and I was up at my aunt and uncle's house 360 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: and Cheviot Hills. You know everyone has their rich aunt 361 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: knuncle right, sorry, rich aunt nuncle was there, you know, 362 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 1: really nice place up there. And uh, I wrote this 363 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: really nice poem that I read for my grandmother. And 364 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: I got smashed, completely drunk. You mr, I don't drink. 365 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't drink anymore. Another day and I took chanet. Now, 366 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: now now we had I wouldn't even I don't even 367 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: know if I would call it dating. What we were doing. 368 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: We were hanging out birthday and we hadn't kiss, nothing, nothing, 369 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: but there was this connection that I'd never had before, 370 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: on a whole different level with a woman that would you, guys, 371 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: go to dinner, Yeah, we would go to dinner, movies, whatever, 372 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: hang out and you you've never grabbed her hand, never 373 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: night or no. No, because when I would, I would 374 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: leave her. I would go to someone else and you know, 375 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: have a booty call and take care of what I 376 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: needed to take care of her. And I wasn't. I wasn't. 377 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: Wasn't that that's that's that's how I lived. So so 378 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: I get all drunk and I tell her I love you, 379 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: I want to marry you. Perfect way to do it. 380 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: She should have learned then, birthday and the next day 381 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: we were supposed to have dinner or with my aunt 382 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: and uncle, like I wanted them to meet this this 383 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: woman there, And I never introduced any woman to my 384 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: aunt and uncle in my whole life. What about your 385 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: mom and dad that's different your auntie, uncle or like 386 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: some spiritual guiders in your life or something. By the 387 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: way you're acting and saying that, I don't understand that. 388 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, my my my parents met here and everything, 389 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: but the aunt and uncle. But what are they on 390 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: a pedestal or something like you're you're saying, I think 391 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: that's the grandma and grandpa, is what I'm saying. They 392 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: they they're the rich ones, so therefore they're the family 393 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: or something. No, they're the ones that are leaving you money. 394 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get why they're treated 395 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: that way though, because because I really don't have any 396 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: other aunt no, no, I have. I have three ants 397 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: and one uncle now, So but why were they treated 398 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: that way for you to put them on that I 399 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: never because they were always so loving and great to me, 400 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: and you didn't want to treat you don't want any 401 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: old horns to meet them. You're like, Okay, I'm gonna 402 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: eat you do a woman that I care about someone 403 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: else well, And they always told me, we don't need 404 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: to meet the people you're banging. Okay, makes sense, Okay 405 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: at that point when as I was growing up and 406 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: as I was dating multitudes of women, and I would 407 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: at family parties, I always have somebody. I always have 408 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: somebody new. They're like, we don't want to buy some 409 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: banging chick just a present for Christmas if you're not 410 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: gonna be My uncle Bert was great one. I don't 411 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: remember what it was. I was bringing all these probably 412 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: during after high school and in between colleges in that 413 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: in those years, and I was always bringing somebody different 414 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: to a family party or whatever. And and this is 415 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: man and he pulled me aside. He goes, you know, 416 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: don't introduce me. To introduce me to somebody when you're 417 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 1: serious with them, go have your fund. I don't need 418 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: to meet these people, you know. And he's very blunt, 419 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, very very sounds like your brother very much. 420 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: There's a lot of similarity. Brother, that's my mother's my 421 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: mother's brother. I can hear your brother doing that. So 422 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: we were supposed to have dinner with them. Uh. The 423 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: next day, I woke up and I was like, yeah, 424 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: what did I do? You know? And I called her up, 425 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: goes to voicemail message, called her up again, voicemail message 426 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: or no return call. I called her a third time, 427 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: which after that sets it. I'm calling three times. I 428 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: screwed up and you know so, and then he's going 429 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: to change her number and that was it. I she 430 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: never returned my call that day, that week, three weeks, 431 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: shut up, eight weeks a year so after you know, 432 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: hold on a second, are you kidding me right now? 433 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you, profess you loved her her all drunken, stupid. 434 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: She was smart enough to not call you back and 435 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: talk to you because you're an idiot like that. God 436 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: bless her. When did she lose her marbles? Up? A 437 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: year later? And this and then somewhere and let's put 438 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: it in more perspective for her, she's three months removed 439 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: from her fiance dying. When you said, when I said this, oh, 440 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: so you really screwed her up? You a monkey wrench 441 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: up her? Yes, horrible. So so this is like, did 442 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: you pull I know your fiance just died, but I 443 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: love you. I just said I love you and I 444 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: want to I want to marry you and have kids 445 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: and I want to leave it in and so right, 446 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: so that was it, right, So a year plus a year. 447 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: That was then nine thousand, two thousand, one years, two 448 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: thousand two four years and damn, what kind of message 449 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: did you send this woman? And she talked you for 450 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: four years in Okay? So so no, no, that was 451 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm just counting with that was four years. So within 452 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: those four years, we're just stalk and go to the 453 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: South Bay and like, go to a little joint. She 454 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: might be at her I would not do that. I 455 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: would It is her work. She worked right off the 456 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: five Freeway, which have a marketing agency. And so after 457 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: one year of no contact, I was driving to court 458 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: and I passed by her thing and the work. I thought, 459 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna call. I'm a call, so I 460 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: call her up? Did you block the number at work? Right? 461 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: So it was like she probably had, so hey, Janet 462 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: Mark Wasserman, she's oh, so we started talking again. I 463 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: was I was, let's see, did yeah I had? I 464 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: was dating somebody at that time, and um, we started talking. 465 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: She was dating somebody, and then we kind of struck 466 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: up a friendship like a friendship, you know, a friendship 467 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: you have with a woman who when you have other 468 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: issues with him. This is the girl you go to 469 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: and you're not You're You're never gonna have sex, nothing's 470 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: ever gonna happen. This is like your best woman friend 471 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: who you can get and maybe she can set you 472 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: up with one of your her hot friends. You know. 473 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: It started to ask, no, sorry, ned, you never had 474 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: just a friend? Maybe no, I don't want to talk 475 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: about your insistual ways right now. Okay, that was my 476 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: cousin Bobby. We just called him Bobby. But whatever, that's 477 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: a different that's a different show. I'm Mexican. You gotta remember, 478 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to forget. Yeah, exactly, I can smell the 479 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: beans boiling in the back gird, Joe, Is that what 480 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: that was? It was? Sorry, it was my son, exactly, 481 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: my son. So you are talking to her, she becomes 482 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: your confident and friends again. So we're friends. We go 483 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: through this three year to three year period of where 484 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: we're friends. Did you address it? Did she tell you 485 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: you're an idiot? It for saying I want to know 486 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: that one? Yeah? That was you know, we we like 487 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: you haven't talked you haven't returned my call in a year, 488 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: and I finally get ahold of you by calling your work. Right, 489 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: what did I do? Did you pull the card of 490 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: what did I do? Know? I apologize. I said, I'm 491 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: sorry for you know what. I was drunk and you know, 492 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: three months the last thing I want to do is 493 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: get married and have kids, you know. And I don't 494 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: know what overcame, you know, but here we are here, 495 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: well vodka. I was a vodka guy, and and we 496 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: we kept this friendship going. And then she wasn't dating 497 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: anyone and I wasn't dating anyone, and she knew. The 498 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: great part about this is she knew when I say 499 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't, I wasn't seriously dating anyone. I was a man, 500 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: was a man, and she knew, you know. And I 501 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't even say, hey, do you have any friends? You 502 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: just you know, want to you know, and like a 503 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: lot of my friends, I'm not setting you up with anybody, 504 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: I know, because you know, I would. I would meet friends, 505 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: women of friends of friends, and they would want to, hey, 506 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: let's let me go out with Mark, and they know 507 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: why that would be actually work in my favor. Everybody 508 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: grand so so she knew. So she got, you know, 509 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: front row seats to all that stuff. And I said, 510 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: you know you want to go out? Did you say 511 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: it drunk again? Or I was buzzed. I was always 512 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: buzzed back then, So you know, I don't know you 513 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: can relate, you know what I'm saying. So um, she goes, 514 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: She goes, well, you know, I ultimately I want to 515 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: get married and have kids, you know, And I know 516 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: you don't because that's all you talk about now. Just 517 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, you're banging this and that and you don't 518 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: want to have kids and you know. And I go, well, 519 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't, you know, but you know, why can't Why 520 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: can't we just go out right? So in February to 521 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: February four, two thousand three, Valentin I felt, I'm like, okay, 522 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw down. Let's go up. 523 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: And I don't have Valentine's date, you don't have one. 524 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: Let's do something. And she said okay, right. So I 525 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: had a limo pick her up, bring it to my 526 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: house in Anaheim, and I had rose petals starting outside, 527 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: like a couple of them outside and then on the 528 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: driveway and like three or four. And then when you 529 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: walk into the house, it was just everywhere. I had 530 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifty candles, and I had done 531 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: up my whole house. Had a couple of people helped me, 532 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: and it was all bom. I had a heart shaped cake, 533 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: and I had a gourmet chef waiting there cooking food 534 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: and all that, all that stuff, and so we had 535 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: an awesome Valentine's and she fourteen no two thousand three. No, no, no, no, no, no, 536 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. And that's why I try to do the 537 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: math going on your oldest son, all three kids yours? Yes, okay, good, 538 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: because my head's going this is two thousand three Valentine's 539 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: two thousand three. And then we had a conversation a 540 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: week later over dinner Roy's by the Beach, and did 541 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: you kiss? I hadn't think so not did not? And 542 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: and she she made it pretty great too. I love 543 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: that place. By the way. She made it pretty clear 544 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: that we're not we're not that you know, that's not 545 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: what this night is about, you know, And I, for 546 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: the first time wasn't. That wasn't the first thing I 547 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: was thinking about. I would just say, I really like 548 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: this woman. I'm gonna I'm gonna give her something. You 549 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: may want to pick up your feet. There's a lot 550 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: of bullshit on the ground. No, I think they're shutting 551 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: under yourneath your chair right now. So so so uh. 552 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: The next day, she says, you know, I really I 553 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: like you, and I think you could be good for me, 554 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: and I think you could be a good father despite 555 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: all yours. But you know, I know you. You said 556 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: you don't wanna get married, you don't want to have kids. 557 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, what do you know If that's the case, 558 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: then I need to cut time friends, you know. And 559 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: I said, and I've gotten that from many women over 560 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: the years, I want to get married. You don't know, 561 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't. Then you gotta go. And it was no problem, okay, okay, 562 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: by I was very quick. Okay, I understand that's part 563 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: ways it's perfect. So so I couldn't say that. I 564 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: found myself tongue tied, like, uh, you know, I need 565 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: to think about this, you know, let's this was on 566 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: a Saturday. I said, let's let's have dinner next Saturday. 567 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: But I need to think about this. And so over 568 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: the course the next seven days, I probably lived the 569 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: most debaucherous life I could. Ever I did in that week. 570 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: That's a whole other thing. And so so. In fact, 571 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: that Saturday a week later, that Saturday morning, as I 572 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: was kicking a couple of women out of my house, 573 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: got you know, gussied up and met her for dinner 574 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: at Roy's. No, No, that was that this is where 575 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna go. That would met her there. We ordered, 576 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: We talked for two or three hours, didn't touch our food. 577 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: At the end of it, I said, all things aside, 578 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: And honest, I'm an attorney. As you know, I probably 579 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: make to three hundred thousand dollars a year. Right now, 580 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: I probably spend four hundred thousand. I have about two 581 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: hundred dollars in the bank. And that's my story, you know. 582 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: And if you're if you're if you want to clean 583 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: me up, you want to move forward, I wanna have 584 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: kids and get married with you. You're that vulnerable to 585 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: say something crazy like that, tell me. I just it 586 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: just came out, man, it just came out. And I said, 587 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: let's let's go tomorrow. And I need to know what 588 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: kind of ring you want. So it's probably gonna take 589 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: me a year to save up money to get you 590 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: whatever ring. You want. You know, I'm like, I know 591 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: you're expensive, you know, you have expensive taste, and let's go. 592 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: So and she she had actually created the ring she wanted, 593 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: and that now this was about to go on to 594 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: her third engagement. She was engaged the first time janet 595 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: first engagement, high school sweetheart who left her at the 596 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: altar two days before in her wide dress. And then 597 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: her second fiance died, and now she's now this is 598 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: going to be her third engagement. And so so this 599 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: is I love this part of the story. We go 600 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: the next day, she goes and shows whatever jewelry went 601 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: to this is the ring I want. And was a 602 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: jewel Jewish No, I think he was Middle Eastern, you know, 603 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: he was an Israeli. It was Robin's brothers. Okay, you 604 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: didn't do a commercial for them, maybe I will know. 605 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: I did commercials for everybody. Was my world literally, So 606 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: so what she wanted was very expensive, you know, and 607 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: especially for back then, you know, for and and uh 608 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: with my own little solo practice and and whatnot. So 609 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: I told her, I go, okay, you know it's probably 610 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: gonna probably gonna take me about a year too, you know, 611 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: I'll put it on lao whatever and probably taking about 612 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: a year, you know, but I'm not going to tell 613 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: you when I'm going to propose. So that was. That was, 614 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, February March of two thousand three. Then April 615 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: two thousand three tax day, because a week before that 616 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: I landed a huge client, huge criminal client, and it 617 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: was something big for the retainers. Yes, yes, it was 618 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: a freaking nice, lumpy retainer that allowed me to go 619 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: get the ring and I got it. And then April fifteen, 620 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: tax day, I had told her I'm gonna pick you 621 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: up from work, and I've got a client who owns 622 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: a restaurant in Laguna, downtown Laguna, and he's gonna close 623 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: it down and we're gonna have a private proud here 624 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: in Orange canv Yeah, private little We're gonna have a 625 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: private little dinner. And oh that sounds nice. And so 626 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: I have a limo pick her up. Pick I'm in 627 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: the limo. We go, we drive to downtown Laguna and 628 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: you know where the basketball courts are and yeah, yeah, 629 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: by the beach where you work. I go, Yeah, all 630 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: the way down. Let's drop off here and we'll walk 631 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: a little bit the restaurants over there. So We're walking 632 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: down PC and then all of a sudden there's a 633 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: horse and carriage that's parked on the side of the 634 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: on the sidewalk on the on the street, right on 635 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: the side street. I go, look at that, and I 636 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: start talking to the guy. I go, oh, yeah, I 637 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: was rented out by a couple there on their honeymoon 638 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. And I go, well, this looks 639 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Can we go for a ride. And he goes, no, 640 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to stay here. And I pulled out a 641 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: couple hundred bucks. I go, here, you go white about this? 642 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, well we have Okay, let's hop in. 643 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: So she's going, are you crazy? Come on, get in 644 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: and get in. So we got yeah, this is all 645 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: stage completely okay. Cool because when you put up well, 646 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: I'm a good yeah, yeah, gonna make it look good. 647 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: I even I would just think about your words. You 648 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: can convince like, let me just convince you. He had 649 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: a script. I wrote the script. He was saying. It 650 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 1: was all scripted out, and so no, it's a tip. Damn. 651 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: He must have really gave you a heavy So so 652 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: he did. So we then take the horse and carriage 653 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: to a spot over there called Vista Point. I don't 654 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,959 Speaker 1: know if you so beautiful, I mean ten twelve miles 655 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: from here. Come on now, so and and and so 656 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: we're getting there now. This is all perfectly timed with 657 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: the sunset also, and had all that figured out to 658 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: get the good show. We we we get out of 659 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: the horse and carriage. We walked to those cliffs and 660 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: again like they're like in in February when I did 661 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: the Valentines. Right at the steps, there was two rose pedals, 662 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: and then there were a couple more, and then she's going, 663 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: what is all this? What? And then there was a 664 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: table set up with two chairs right at the edge 665 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: right there, and some champagne and it's that. And then 666 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: I said, I thought we would come here, have a 667 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: little drink and just watch the sunset. And so I 668 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: had her turned around. It was whatever, and the sunset 669 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: was going down, and so she was watching it. I 670 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: let go over. Don My mom made me this nice 671 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: purple cushiony thing so I could put it down so 672 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't get my knee dirty. And I put that down, 673 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: I got on one knee, I held up the ring 674 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: and didn't say a word. And then she finally realized 675 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't holding onto and she turned back around and 676 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: there was the ring in her face, and I said, 677 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: will you marry me? And she said yes, I put 678 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: the ring on and we had our first kiss. Shut 679 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: your mouth right now. Swear to god you never kissed 680 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: your wife before you asked her for her hand in marriage. 681 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: And we had an argument about about sex as as 682 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, you never even hit it then 683 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: yet Nope, nope. Then we had an argument about that, 684 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of months before or she kept going, 685 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing I'm not, I'm not I'm 686 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: not doing it until I'm engaged. I'm not doing that anymore. 687 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: You know, you're okay now hound now now on the beach. Okay. Well, 688 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: And at one point I go, you know, it's like 689 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: a car. I need to take a test drive. I mean, 690 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: I don't see what anybody else would disagree with that, 691 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: and she goes, well, if you feel like that, then 692 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: you're never driving this car. And so so, uh, you know, 693 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: while we before we were engaged, I was I was 694 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: going everywhere and doing everybody, and that was it. That 695 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: was our first kiss. And then how long before you 696 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: got engaged. Did you get to finally drive the car? 697 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: Was it that night? That night? You know? You know 698 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: what I mean? That's a curious It wasn't that nice. 699 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: I would be like, now, let me see if you're real. 700 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't that night it because you know, and I 701 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: was excited. I went back to my family. She went 702 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: to Hers were engaged. The only people who knew her. 703 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: Now my dad would He would know nothing about that, Okay. 704 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: I had to teach him a few things. Your brothers, 705 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: everybody's looking at you, like, what do you mean here 706 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: engage to this one? What don't you? But I asked 707 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: her her mom. Her mom knew. I asked her mom. 708 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: I gave flowers to her mom beforehand. I went there 709 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: where dad in the picture? Her dad's a drunken, alcoholic, 710 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,919 Speaker 1: gambling loser who's passed away a couple of years ago. 711 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: That she didn't she didn't couple years ago, recently, a 712 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: couple of years ago before, she don't know, a couple 713 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: of years ago. Yeah, he wasn't involved in any of that. 714 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, wonder where she loves you? Then you're just 715 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: like her dad. The Freudian theory sticks to be true again. Well, 716 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: and she's not not unlike my mom too in a 717 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 1: lot of ways. Every gonna say that there's a Freudian 718 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: theory out there that's pretty strong. The similarities of your 719 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: spouse are like one of the other parents are a 720 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: little bit of both. So wait, so getting back to 721 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: when did we consummate? So that day it was, you 722 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: know that right after that we both went home, you know, 723 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: and it didn't happen, and then uh, that was on 724 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: that that was I forget what day of the week 725 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: it was. But the rest of the week we were busy, 726 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: da da da, and then we went to Vegas. We 727 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: were taking her her her her sister, God rest her soul, 728 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: who who passed away from cancer m about three years 729 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: after after we were married. How many death stories are 730 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: in your engagement here? This is sttle too much for 731 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: to be honest, but sorry, but I know, I know, 732 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I asked, I said, we're gonna 733 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: talk about how you got engaged in So this is 734 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: gonna be such a downer. It's a roller coaster, right, 735 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I took her and her sister to 736 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: Vegas to watch Seline Dion and you know how how 737 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: many years ago did she passed? Now this is her 738 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: sister how long? No? No, no, no, no, no, yeah, no, 739 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: this is this is uh, this is back in two 740 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: thousands eight, I believe. Okay, so after you guys got married, 741 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: she was on the wedding Yeah, yeah, yeah, thankfully, yes, 742 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: get back to when years So, so we took her 743 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: sister and a couple of other members of her family 744 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: to make them watch to go to Selene Dion because 745 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: that was her favorite, her sister's favorite. That you know, 746 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: we gave her that gift and so and you know 747 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: Filipino families, like Mexicans, they all have to stay in 748 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: the same room and stay together. So we all stayed. 749 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: Did you know that we all stayed together? So we 750 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 1: couldn't a week a wee, babe, if you can get 751 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: your family out of this room, you're pulling your hair out. 752 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: So then so so so then it was about a 753 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: week after that, So it's about two weeks after the 754 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: actual engagement that uh, you know, I showed her what 755 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: it was really about. She put it on you obviously, 756 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: here you go now and you couldn't even pull out 757 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: how the first so so uh Mark April fifteen, two 758 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: thousand three, we get engaged. We set the wedding day 759 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: for January thirty first, two thousand four, nine months exactly, 760 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: so we put that together. We had it, and she wanted. 761 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: She's one of those been dreaming of the wedding and 762 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: she's been let down two other times. For God's sake, 763 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: she had saved up her a bunch of money and 764 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: we all we just did you use it stands money? 765 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: There was none, There was none. He did have a 766 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: baseball card collection that really was And I don't think so. 767 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't think so. Jerks right now, 768 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: if she listen to this, she's gonna smack you. She's 769 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: gonna beat us both for this. Damn it, Joe, why 770 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: would you say that you bring this back? Sorry? He 771 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: made me do it. So January there's notes. January thirty one, 772 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: two thousand four. We have the wedding, over three hundred people, 773 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: Los Cogas Country Club, the whole you know, she bang, 774 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: it was, it was. We have a three hour wedding 775 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 1: video that is extreme ing. Oh you should have seen 776 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: me seen me go to to Did you jump? Did 777 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 1: you break the glass? I did? Of course that's great. Boom. 778 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: You know you know, there's a new tradition I've been 779 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: seeing on TV people jumping over flowers. It makes me 780 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: think of how Jewish wedding break class. What's this jumping 781 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: over flower thing? Well, I do know there's there's I 782 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: never did the culture jumping the broom. Those are for witches, 783 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: aren't there? No, No, there was a movie called Jumping 784 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: the something it symbolizes luck or something like jumping over 785 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: have you seen that? Ironically? And some random shows they're 786 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: showing the weddings, and then my wife and I watching 787 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: like this is like the third time in like the 788 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: last two months that I've seen a new wedding on 789 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: TV and they're jumping over flowers, like a nice long 790 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: thing of flowers, like almost a broom looking style, but flowers. Like, 791 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: what the hell is this tradition? It makes me think 792 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: of would the Jews break the glass? Well, and the 793 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: significance of that is as many shattered pieces of glass 794 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: as there are, that's how many years of marriage you 795 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: will have, oh you you know, hundreds and hundreds of 796 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: little pieces. And then my mother took took all that 797 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: broken glass, gave it to whatever place, and they do, 798 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, put it together, you know, of course you 799 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: guys are throwing anything away. We have that. So that 800 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: was January four. We then uh start our honeymoon at 801 00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: the Montage here for and then we jetted off to 802 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: Maui to the Grand Wailea in the Hawaii. And what 803 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: was amazing about that the place worked back then the 804 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: owners were members of the Grandialia and so we were 805 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: in five thousand dollars and then so sweet for you know, 806 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: like twos a night, you know. So that was that 807 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,720 Speaker 1: and then then so that was that was right after Jannis. 808 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: That's going into February. Then my son Jonah was born 809 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: and see that was that was February two thousand four. 810 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: My son Jonah was born November twenty nine, two thousand four. Yeah, 811 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: Mr boy, Yeah, I ain't never having kids and getting 812 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,720 Speaker 1: married in the bing Bang move. Oh what a great story. 813 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: It's grande a wasp. Maybe I'll have some time to 814 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: tell you mine when we come back. I hope you 815 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: enjoyed the four hour segments of When Mark met Jannis. 816 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: Have a great day. Thanks for listening. Thank you for 817 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 1: listening to Cannabis Talk one oh one on the I 818 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your 819 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 1: podcasts m HM,