WEBVTT - A Melrose Minute with Jack Wagner 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.320 Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.400 And daphnews Aniga and iHeartRadio Podcast. 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:16.000 Welcome Tomorrow's minute. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:22.720 We have a very very exciting guest today, Jack Wagner, but. 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:28.200 The most fun troublemaker on set whatever show you're doing. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.600 You know what a reputation. I love it. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:36.120 Have your ears been burning? 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:39.040 Because you have come up a few times on our 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.400 podcast and we've talked about how much fun everybody talks 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:46.080 about fun stories with Jack and either you trying to 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:47.720 sabotage make us laugh. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.320 And you know any of that. 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.760 But yeah, we're so happy to have you for this 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.560 Melrose Minute, and we're hoping that we're going to get 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.600 a longer session with you because there's way more stories 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:58.360 to tell and. 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:00.480 To do that for sure. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.280 Are we're going to get a much longer Melrose Hour 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.080 with you, Yes, in person, in person. But this is 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.600 really to talk about your show. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.320 It's finale on Sunday, right. 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.640 Right, Yeah, So thanks for having me to be able 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.720 to promote this Sunday. You know, the season finale. The 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.560 show is called When Calls the Heart on the Hallmark Channel, 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.560 and it's so funny to be with you guys, you know, 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.959 because it's such a opposite type of material than Melrose Place, 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:33.240 which was pretty racy, right, and bed scenes and backstabbings 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.320 in this and this is family friendly television. So it's 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.360 just a heart heartwarming show. And it's about a pioneer 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.200 talent at the turn of the century as a based 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.560 on a book by Janet Oak and about a school 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.560 teacher who leaves the big city and goes to the 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.400 pioneer to become a school teacher. 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.320 And it's got a huge following doc I mean, it's 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:57.400 a phenomenon. It's like Hallmark's biggest show. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.560 I think it is, you know, and I know you 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.680 guys can relate to this because of the series you've 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:05.200 been on and especially the show we were so blessed 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.120 to be on melrose Place. When you have that core 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.400 fan base and they call themselves girls that hashtag parties 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.160 party Sweet and we sweet with them and have tweeted 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.880 for twelve years live during the episodes on X and 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.840 so I think that really has endeared I think us 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.800 as it's humanized us to the audience and they're just 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.080 a very loyal fan base. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.880 Well, it's incredible. So we have loyal fans, right, they'll 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.760 still come up to you. I'm wearing my heart in 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.040 honor of the Hearties. I went down the rabbit hole 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:43.079 with the Hardy family reunion, and I am so envious 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.240 of everyone who gets to be there. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.239 This is the one from last year. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.160 The woman made a quilt and she made actual three 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.639 D buildings image of the building from the quilt. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:55.320 There were friendship bracelets. 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:59.360 I was watching it thinking, what an extraordinary community to 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:00.200 be a part of. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:01.239 It's incredible. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:05.160 That's a good word Courtineys community, because that's that's really 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:09.480 the foundation I think of this show. Right. It's really heartwarming, 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.359 and of course there's comedy. You know, I wouldn't really 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:16.120 be involved in anything if I couldn't find comedy in it. 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:17.880 You'll find it, so it does. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:20.880 It's really a cute, funny show with romance and very 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:22.600 very really touches your heart. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.000 Have you been on all twelve years? 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:24.239 Jack? 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:29.400 Yeah? I came on because of Lori Lachlin. You know, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.040 her husband is a buddy of mine, you know, from golf, 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.519 and so she's like the golf course she goes. You know, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.880 I'm on the show. You should really check this out 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.440 because they had just done a Hallmark movie, so I 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.600 went to one of their events and met the producer 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.560 and I joined at the towards the end of season one. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.920 Wow yeah, and twelve years much. How often are you 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:51.520 in Vancouver? How long is the season? 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.080 It's July to November. 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:55.360 That's perfect, Yeah. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.840 You know, because it's they've built a pioneer town in Vancouver. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:03:59.720 Is it in Vancouver? 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:04.400 After Vancouver? Vancouver Langley? I remember, Daphne, we saw you 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.360 at the at the airport, remember. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.320 Us, Jack and I was trying to look up. We 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.320 did two other movies, I think, both in Canada as well, 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:12.520 or at least one of them. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.960 We worked together more after Melrose, So we did work 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.840 together on Melroe's Place, right, Daphne, I know, I. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.120 Mean I survived Melrose because I didn't have to deal 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.320 with Peter Burns. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:27.240 I don't know where could I handled your That was 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:28.159 some of the best part. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.400 It was we had in the doctor's office. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.520 Coming up with oh my god, Oh my gosh. That 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:35.880 was some of the best. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.440 Pencil pencil sharpener day and apple. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.000 Right, there was at some point I think it was 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:47.920 a spy and basically Jack Wager's doing the pendulum. You're 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:52.320 starting from the darkest of the dark comedy to the 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.440 Hearty's like in one career. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.800 Yeah, totally, it does. It does remind me a bit 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.440 of U General Hospital in the eighties. Right well, that 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.720 was kind of my big break. And that fan base 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.840 of that soap opera is still there. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:09.080 You know. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.080 I still get called Frisco probably more than oh my 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:16.400 goshly so as you guys know, when when a fan base, 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.880 you know, love starts to fall in love with the characters, 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.520 it's very real for them and it reminds me a 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.000 little bit of a GH fans back in the eighties. 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:26.040 Oh, that's amazing. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.039 We talked about the community for a second. I was 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.200 thinking about last year, all my girlfriends and I watched 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:32.560 The Residents separately together. 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.720 It was so much fun, and going down the rabbit hole. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.839 Of this convention, I just thought they get that all 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.599 the time, Like these people they connect. There's a show 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.800 there's heart to heart ease, which just how incredible. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.880 So they have this, they maintain this all. 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.200 Year, this connection around this show, and I think it's 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.560 extraordinary cause I think we're all really looking for community, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:53.760 and what a sweet. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.840 One to find. Good point, Courtney, I think this show 0:05:55.880 --> 0:06:00.560 resonates with people given our you know, political temperature in 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.960 the country for the last ten years or more. Right, 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.080 I think people look for something that's safe, you know, 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.080 and something we don't show blood, we don't show sex, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.040 we don't show nudity, we don't use profanity. But yet 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:12.880 we can shoot a gun. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.480 You know, a miracle you were cast. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.520 If you really think about it. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.599 You have good agents. I mean, thank god for Laurie. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.960 Have they not met you, Jack? Did they know you? 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:23.840 I mean golf? 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:24.400 Yeah? 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:29.640 Okay, but right, yeah, we're all still full of them, right, girls. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:31.520 Twelve years they still don't know. 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.360 And you guys must be like a family to the 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.400 cast at this point. That's a long time to be. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.279 You probably have an apartment there. It's kind of on 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:45.840 location for six months. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.800 Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I live in the apartment 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.120 side of a hotel. But it's like this, you know, 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.240 when you see you know, people you've worked with, it's 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.920 like high school friends. You know, you seem to reconnect 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.719 immediately and go down memory lane and like it's like 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:05.719 no time has passed. The strange part about the blessing 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.960 of this show is it's like we're returning to school 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.800 every year. I mean, we talk about it as a 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.360 cast in the green room, you know, twelve seasons and 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.840 it hasn't been announced, but it's I think we're going 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.840 to get thirteen. You know. It's almost like we show 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:24.320 up and we pinch ourselves and just really, uh listen. 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.040 The most important thing for me, and I know you 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.760 guys know this for yourselves as well as myself, and 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.200 that is that the actors and directors were all seasoned 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.080 enough now where we collaborate on the material. You know, 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.000 I'm able to call the showrunner when something's not right, 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.560 if they missed something, if it's not funny, and they 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.600 trust me, and so it's such a great work environment 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.720 that I know you guys appreciate it and also do yourselves. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.240 When you can collaborate on set and make something better, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:54.480 you know, raise the bar. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.640 And so that's the trust factor. I'm knowing each other 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:58.280 so well. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.200 And you know when we started this jack, you know, 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.640 we were like, yeah, we got along, and my other 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.440 side of my brain was how. 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.160 Did everyone did redone really get along? 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:09.000 In Melvoe's place? 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:13.440 And then I've remembered, uh yeah. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:17.680 I mean the biggest disappointment for interviews that I did 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:22.120 from Melrose onwards. Was that there was no drama really, 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.040 you know, there was no like that was on screen. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.560 We got paid to do that, you know what I mean? 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.120 Right, Yeah, I agree with you. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:32.839 There was a trust there and yeah, depending on each 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.840 other and a fun I mean your stuff with Laura 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.600 as Sydney and you was Peter and Michael. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:38.960 In that office was like a whole other. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.080 I mean that was like amazing comedy and. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.079 They're get a little bubble there. Yeah, But I think 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.840 you're right, definitely, there really is when you when the 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.520 cast gets along, and I think it all like for us, 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.840 it's all sort of dripped down from Heather, you know, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.640 when you're when you're kind of lead, has got it 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:00.120 together and is kind and loving. I think that that 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.199 kind of like drips down from the top, even producers. Right, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.360 we didn't have you know, jerks that were exacts. We 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.000 had really good dudes. You know. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.920 Yes, you're right, Yeah, anybody who acts out looks ridiculous 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.800 when number one on the call sheet is as lovely 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.040 as Heather is was and is. We just talked to 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.560 her a few weeks ago and it was amazing. She 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.920 looks exactly the same, She sounds exactly the same funny 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.400 and charming and reverence. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.760 The two of you on together, because that would be amazing. 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.720 Lucy and Ricky and we have this funny thing where 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.880 like we weren't the three of us weren't around for 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.560 the final seasons and you know you were. So there's 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.680 a whole different flavor of the show that you haven't 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.840 experience of and probably even maybe a more recent memory 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.840 of than the time that we associate with because of 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:45.679 those years or whatever. 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.960 And it's it was, you know, for a show to go. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.840 For seven years at all is miraculous, which is why 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:52.920 like your twelve year run on When Calls the Heart 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.480 is even you know, more amazing. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.720 And but like you. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.480 Must have had like this feeling of a couple of 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.400 different air of the time on Melrose even Yeah, I think. 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.360 So because of the cast had shifted, especially towards the 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.640 last year or so. I think they were trying to. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.120 I think we can all feel when something maybe coming 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.280 to an end right on a series, and so it 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:19.400 felt like it there. So I felt really honored to, 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.760 you know, have the last scene of the show to 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.360 be you know, Heather and I having bought this Island 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.600 and faked our death and doing our vows and walking off, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.080 you know, on the beach in the sunset. Was like, wow, 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:36.600 what an honor. You know, it's kind of carry you know, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.640 the old guard into the last scene of the show. Right, 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.920 So I agree we lost the cast and it felt 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.520 like it was coming to an end, and it was. 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.559 It was sad you guys weren't there. Seriously, Oh thanks. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.480 For shutting it. It was strange that it went on. 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.760 But that's the amazing thing about whind Calls the Heart 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.120 that you guys are all still together, that you get 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.080 to see each other every year. I love that moment 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.600 coming back from the summer, right, it is like school, 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.800 like you got your new school clothes and you're ready 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.160 for the new year. And the other thing we've talked 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.320 about script, Yeah, getting the newscript on Malo's Flakes. 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:07.520 Remember it was like word perfect. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.079 We're all young, and we're all sort of green, except 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.600 Daphne who done several movies, but we're all sort of green, 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.800 and it was like exact words and were I love 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:17.760 that you said that this is more collaborative because you're 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.600 all grown ups, so it's nice to be. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.400 Heard and bring your experience into it. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.920 Oh you know what, Pa, I'll save my audition for 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:25.960 Melrose and then. 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.000 I'll save hour with you. 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:31.520 We're gonna put you through the ring? 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:32.640 Or don't you worry. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:39.200 When I come back and cannot wait? Do you think 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.080 that the one calls the heart cast and crew? Do 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.120 you think they see the same version of Jack that 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:45.920 we saw? 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:46.280 Like? 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.720 Are you like, do you have to temper sort of 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.680 your like according to the role? Fun Do they have 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:54.920 the same version of Jack? 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.760 I think I would. I hate to say this, but 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:04.200 I might have grown up a little bit. You know. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.960 Maybe my goal is to not to see how sarcastic 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:09.640 I can be on set to make the crew laugh 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:14.439 at anyone's expense, you know, maybe, But you know, I've 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.040 always been a real believer in laughter really makes a 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.680 set much more enjoyable, right, And I find sometimes the 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:26.120 most emotional scenes, you know, clearly you're focused and you're connected, 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.600 but it's almost like a funeral, you know, laughter seems 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.560 to break the ice and you can you can open 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.960 yourself up even for a more organic performance. Right. So, 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.920 I've always been a real fan of of a component 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.360 of having laughter around the set. I just think maybe 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.840 I've maybe grown a little bit and it's not at 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.920 every maybe my other actors expense deprecating. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.880 Do you remember this is my favorite memory of you 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.079 that you always pretended you couldn't remember Heather's names. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.720 You'd be like, where's Helen? Where is Helen coming? Do 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.400 you remember? That made me laugh? You know, for probably 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.439 five years me laugh every single time. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:06.840 Good, I'll use my material until like it's finally like, 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.520 really are we going with the Hell and Heather thing again? Seriously? 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.520 Can't we come up with some new stuff? I love 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.200 that your best audience, Courtney, You're my best Thank you. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:15.560 Yeah, she remembers. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.200 It still makes me laugh. It still makes me laugh 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.200 thirty years later. 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.920 I might actually have one of your headshots in my 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:30.400 memorabilia box because when you're like distribute, I got one. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.520 I'm gonna love it up in your bedroom on the wall. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.160 But who did that cast photo one year where they 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.160 put my face superimposed over the whole castles that time? 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.520 Probably I think it was Thomas. Yeah, I don't know 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.520 what mess like it? Yeah, between you. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.920 And Thomas, poor Laura, those ss all that you have 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:52.080 to go to work with those two. 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:53.400 Laura, I loved it. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.920 You were she was a champ. Laura's funny. She does 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:58.079 call me so well. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:13:59.280 So funny. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.640 We have we have good stories that we have to 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.439 hold because we have a whole big episode with you 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.240 and so many fun stories I'm sharing. I think of 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.319 more after after we say goodbye, after this Melrose minute. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:16.480 But the coolest thing is to have I haven't seen 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.599 you in a million years, and it's like it was 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.040 yesterday and it's been It's so fun to see your 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:21.680 face and. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:27.160 See you guys look amazing. Fortney. We've seen each other 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:31.160 at a few Hallmark. You were working over there for 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.480 a while, so we've caught up here and there, and 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.280 Daphne at the airport and Laura, you know this. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.440 When you're doing movies with Josie. Do you and Josie 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:39.720 still do your Hallmark movies? 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.440 Oh my gosh. You know, you know we did six 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.280 of franchise of six wedding cool she is. You know, 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.480 I never got to really note Josie on Melrose Place 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.640 because you know, it really didn't work with her much. 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.960 She's the quirkiest, funniest I mean, we just hit it 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.800 off so much, you know, so we had this really 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.200 nice run of movies. I I think, you know, there's 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.200 a chance that we may be rebooting the franchise. You know, 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.440 I'm in negotiation now, tell us. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:07.200 The name of it again. 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.360 Wedding March, Wedding March, Okay. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.960 And so yeah, it was so great to work with 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.280 Josie on such a different level. Yeah, side of the show, 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:22.280 share memories and just these chapters, right girls of our lots. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.600 You know, it's sort of right now we're almost opening 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.360 a new chapter together just as friends here, you know, 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:28.520 because it's been so long. 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.320 So well, that's been the best thing. 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:31.920 We keep talking about that the best thing part of 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.800 doing this podcast is seeing everybody again, and. 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.600 It is so sweet because that time, as. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.600 You know, is so intense, and we're all so young, 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:41.960 and to meet each other now when we're all so 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:43.680 much lighter, Like that's what they don't tell you. As 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.760 you get older, you feel lighter, you're happier, you don't 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:46.920 take yourself as seriously. 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.200 There was no time back then, there was no off 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.000 stage like you know, all this get together this weekend. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:52.640 Yeah. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.320 But also we were very earnest, like you were having 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.040 a lot of fun, Jack, But I was very super 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.440 earnest about the work, and I wish I could have 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.400 been lighter, but now. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:02.920 We get to do it again. It's like we get 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.920 this special do over. We're so lucky. 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.320 Listen now to your defense and all of our defense. 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.960 I don't think people really understand that we were doing 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:15.360 thirty four episodes like two or three years. It's called 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.600 double ups for the audience out there. Nuts have two 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.120 production crews, two directors, and two different episodes going at once. 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.080 Like that's that's insane. No serious. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:29.360 Always yeah, you're either sleeping, learning lines. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.160 Or on st We've talked about that a lot, and 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.400 it's really hard to imagine. How many episodes do you 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.000 do a season and when it calls the heart twelve, yes, 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.160 that's like reasonable, but it takes. 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.720 You three years to get as many episodes. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.040 So kids now, like kids now, will do a show 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.960 on a streamer, they'll do six episodes. Then it could 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.600 be two years before they do another season. And it 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.840 sounds like a lot of money, but spread over two years, 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.440 it's not as much. I mean, so I'm glad I 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.040 did it when I was young. I could not do 0:16:58.080 --> 0:16:59.240 it today, there's no way. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.280 Thank god, we had Aaron Spelling who wanted to get 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:02.560 into syndication faster. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:04.800 So yeah, but. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.200 Nobody's doing it, nobody's doing money to syndication. 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.760 So he got us up to one hundred episodes very fast. 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.280 I mean yeah. He also really liked actors, you know. Yeah, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.080 there's quite a few of us directed. And it was 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.560 so nice to I know, I directed, and just everybody 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:23.600 was you know, supported, Thomas and Rob and myself and 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.000 whoever else directed. It wasn't like, you know, there was 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.560 an ego attached. We all knew that it was a 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.480 tough job, you know, and it was very cool, Aaron, 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.919 I think to trust us and you know, to be 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.920 you know, a team effort, right when. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:38.760 You get on a set and when you're on a 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.880 well oiled machine and that's your first directing, that's amazing 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.200 because you have because on One Tree Hill I had. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:45.440 Some of the actors they directed. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.560 They have the crew, they know, they have the fan, 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.600 they have the script, they know, they have the friends 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.880 they know, so it must have been it was there 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:52.520 for you. 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.640 Yeah, because you need the DP and you need them 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.960 to pick the lens and what lens and what do 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.680 you want and you tell them and then they kind 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.800 of do the technical things that you really aren't seasoned on. 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.160 You know, some people maybe, but I was a little 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.080 green at it. I certainly was into the performance end 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.639 of things in terms of acting and you know, working 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.359 through a scene, et cetera. I love that component. But 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.760 the other part, you know, the pre production post production. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.359 I never chased directing after that because I really just 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.480 was too much of an actor, you know, I just 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.520 didn't like the pre post part of the directing. You 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:31.440 don't heart Yeah, no, you know, because it's a Canadian deal. 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.840 They hire Canadian director because there's a twenty five percent 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:36.400 tax break to shoot in Vancouver. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:37.399 Wow. 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.359 So that's why you know, Hallmark, there's so many of 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.159 their movies up there and a lot of their production 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:42.679 up there. 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.080