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Speaker 1: When we talk about I don't want to call the
Speaker 1: street music when we talk about I wouldn't call the
Speaker 1: feeling music where you could just here and you just
Speaker 1: feel it and feel what his motherfucker's is coming from
Speaker 1: and feel the pain, you feel the struggle, you feel
Speaker 1: the filling in the bars. I was just sitting there
Speaker 1: going through the playlist just now, and I started rhyming.
Speaker 1: I haven't done that and maybe six years I was
Speaker 1: sitting there listening and I just started rhyme and I
Speaker 1: was just like I said, Damn, this nigga make me
Speaker 1: want to rhyme again, and I don't want to run
Speaker 1: to run. I don't want to rhyme nigga. God bless me.
Speaker 1: This man has been the hustler. Hustler, he has stayed out.
Speaker 1: He's made us single handedly be proud to be from
Speaker 1: New York again. We've always been proud of me from
Speaker 1: New York. Boys, you more one. In case you don't
Speaker 1: know who the funk we talked about, he told about
Speaker 1: the one motherfucker own the coming man. I swot I
Speaker 1: don't like that that music. Just listening to it just now,
Speaker 1: it was minding me. Uh Like I said, feelings like
Speaker 1: I could feel it, like I felt like I was
Speaker 1: wherever you was talking about. I felt like I was
Speaker 1: dead with you. I'm proud of that ship because that's
Speaker 1: where I come from and people that came before me,
Speaker 1: the Woot Tang's, the Mark Deech. I had to keep
Speaker 1: on that tradition. But then a time stop where be
Speaker 1: in the street it wasn't cool and tight ship turned
Speaker 1: that started all that. Not a squid nick all say,
Speaker 1: getting no rapping, But did I hear you in a
Speaker 1: crew and yeah, got that integ me. Why why you
Speaker 1: ain't slipping Bob and two steps ship? Like we were
Speaker 1: way better at the way we're doing it right now.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And that's just what I
Speaker 1: tell anybody like you gotta stick to what you good
Speaker 1: at and know what I'm saying. At the same time,
Speaker 1: niggas want to be niggas, want to hang with all
Speaker 1: the litt niggas and do all the trendy ship. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's that's for everybody, But the
Speaker 1: Griselda ship is for Griselda niggas, what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: there's hours so it feel more. It feels better just
Speaker 1: running our own ship and just trying to do some
Speaker 1: trendy ship with other niggas. It's easy to be yourself exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie even me, well, I don't. I
Speaker 1: can't say I jumped on the trends. A lot of
Speaker 1: times I was setting trends, Like when we were doing
Speaker 1: reggae through I would go out and explore, is that
Speaker 1: something that you want to do? Is like you you
Speaker 1: like you have what you have working for a round? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I've been working with Mike will I've been working
Speaker 1: with Scott Storch. I work with a whole lot of
Speaker 1: different producers. You know what what I'm saying. And you would
Speaker 1: you would let you would let a commercial record someone
Speaker 1: produce a commercial commercial record player, you know, the radio
Speaker 1: friendly ship listen. Of course, I'm an artist for what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So you know what I mean, Like fans
Speaker 1: feel how they want to feel, but I'm an artist.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in it for at this point, it's not
Speaker 1: about the money. It's for satisfaction, as for legacy all
Speaker 1: that type of ship. But you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you know what I mean. These dudes is
Speaker 1: these dudes a legends and they geniuses who matter. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You get your bottle of a
Speaker 1: stay we mean ship. You got your own. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: make some much that. I don't know if I get
Speaker 1: my own ship. So let me ask you, is it
Speaker 1: is it? Is it harder coming from upstate because it's
Speaker 1: like y'all the six and seventh Borough, you still New York?
Speaker 1: But does that make it harder? Does that make it easier?
Speaker 1: I had the mean, yeah that's my ship, right, but
Speaker 1: they definitely make it harder ship, Buffalo, that's the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere. I mean, nobody is no blueprint. We we
Speaker 1: we created the current blueprint. What I'm saying. Yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: definitely know what I'm saying. But it's like you know
Speaker 1: we did. We didn't no ship from from what I see,
Speaker 1: this ship is all about connections and knowledge, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like because it's connected to nobody. We
Speaker 1: we ain't no ship about the industry or know how
Speaker 1: to you know what I mean. You put our best
Speaker 1: foot forward. So when West came with the formula, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. However that is you know, anybody
Speaker 1: asked me about that and I could know what I mean,
Speaker 1: But that's just really his intuition or whatever he had.
Speaker 1: But it should make it way harder. Niggas don't want
Speaker 1: to co signed Buffalo niggas. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Now that ship goes, let me just say something and
Speaker 1: it's I'm a word, is very very careful. When Prodigy
Speaker 1: was what was approached, They told Prod Queen's Bridge is high,
Speaker 1: so just say you from Queensbridge, Like if aout to
Speaker 1: respect it probably wasn't the right thing to do, but
Speaker 1: he was being a team player exactly right, Yeah, easily
Speaker 1: said making me from the proms from too, but said
Speaker 1: real ship because all of that, all of that being
Speaker 1: from Buffalo, being from the middle of nowhere, and all
Speaker 1: that ship that was bad or whatever they try to
Speaker 1: use against us, it works in our favorite now what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's a spending you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: That's what I tell them. It's like be yourself, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, remember nor the same thing we've been talking
Speaker 1: about with Snoop, with with anybody from the South. They
Speaker 1: were going through it too. The Jersey was going through
Speaker 1: it too. It wasn't just the region far from from
Speaker 1: the city of New York, explains him. You gotta explain. So, okay,
Speaker 1: we always go here, right, this is about from the
Speaker 1: South by the way of the West Coast. And he
Speaker 1: always brings up the time with New York ship on
Speaker 1: everyone everyone, But what they don't know is don't y'all.
Speaker 1: So I was still going like New Yorkers like that.
Speaker 1: I love sitting down with Jay, we said, because Jay said,
Speaker 1: he said, I don't know why they It was like
Speaker 1: he watched us on drink chats and he said, I
Speaker 1: don't know why they're still mad at us for they're
Speaker 1: doing for they're doing this back in the days, they
Speaker 1: said they did it to us normy Z like they
Speaker 1: think they think they think they think people from New
Speaker 1: York's assholes. Yeah, but I know, I know you're not
Speaker 1: saying that that other reasons, and except Big didn't except
Speaker 1: Jay that at first took out New York and said
Speaker 1: about himself when he first came out, he had to
Speaker 1: work harder in his own state. He talked about that.
Speaker 1: He talked about that a lot, how he had to
Speaker 1: grind and how you know what I'm saying. He was
Speaker 1: he was fighting giants and ship like they talked all
Speaker 1: the time. No, but me and Ti is one of them,
Speaker 1: and I always bring up t and I always say
Speaker 1: to Tia, you gotta let it go. We got nigga,
Speaker 1: let you let it go. We just explaining to the
Speaker 1: history of it. They want to make it, do better
Speaker 1: with it, but before it is doing better what it was.
Speaker 1: They got a scar and they and they have if
Speaker 1: I'm back in the days from how was it like
Speaker 1: that for you, like like um reaching out at first?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I got a union. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: after after everything warmed up. It was. It wasn't hard button. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, not just being from Buffalo,
Speaker 1: just being a artist who motherfucker's didn't know. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you know, my fucker's won't sunk
Speaker 1: with you and let you got something going on and
Speaker 1: you can't be you can't really be mad at him though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because you gotta get something
Speaker 1: going on. There's so many other people that got ship
Speaker 1: going on. Get something going on. It's like if you
Speaker 1: if you ain't heat enough, it's almost like you're doing
Speaker 1: something wrong now, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 1: like get your ship together, Like Leo Coms just say comes,
Speaker 1: just say to me, you cannot stand for the wat juice,
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean, Joe, don't saying right right right?
Speaker 1: No matter how cool you is, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I get. So. I watched The Breakfast Club
Speaker 1: the other day and I see the homie on there,
Speaker 1: and I was thrown off a little bit. There wasn't
Speaker 1: no distance, It wasn't those shots, but it was like
Speaker 1: it was something that I didn't see from Grizelda el Um.
Speaker 1: Did you got opinion on that, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: was like him his brothers. So and ain't it ain't
Speaker 1: like I've never seen you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: it's probably like like you said, like y'all, y'all first
Speaker 1: time seeing it. So it's like I when niggas knew
Speaker 1: each other their whole life. But Briselda is Briselda, y'all.
Speaker 1: People are learning, people are looking at people are learning
Speaker 1: who we are. You know what I'm saying. You see
Speaker 1: the west is he did, he did. He had a
Speaker 1: flint point in when he did whatever he doing. He
Speaker 1: the brains conway, he the wound, carrying it with the
Speaker 1: rap he he I mean, he his positioned on that
Speaker 1: top five lists. He gives a funk about it. And
Speaker 1: I'm saying he don't like to be slighted. He like
Speaker 1: his name and unless he like niggas and know his
Speaker 1: his work, and me, I'm just I'm a combination of
Speaker 1: both of that. So it's just you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: he was just being him, He said how you feel.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean that ain't that ain't nothing
Speaker 1: more than brothers being brothers. Because I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: the truth. I didn't take no offense to him saying
Speaker 1: that when he signed he didn't get no money. Because
Speaker 1: if this is the community that we building it, we
Speaker 1: said we're gonna build something together, then I'm essentially signed
Speaker 1: myself too, and I'm not gonna give myself no money together.
Speaker 1: So I just see nothing wrong with that. But I
Speaker 1: felt like the outside looking then everyone's gonna have opinions
Speaker 1: once you go public. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I said that. I said that on on my Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club interview, how I signed my contract for no money?
Speaker 1: And I said it in the sense it's like I'm
Speaker 1: just showing people like that's how should goes sometimes a
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: think he was like more more so saying it like that,
Speaker 1: and to be honest with you and know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it ain't it ain't no secret man. You know he
Speaker 1: wanted he that nig is a hustler. That nigga he
Speaker 1: came through the same circumstances I came through, even workship,
Speaker 1: he got hitting it. He got what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, he wanted credit for what he do.
Speaker 1: Maybe he feels like you don't get enough credit, you know,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So you know what I mean talking
Speaker 1: to Ship. That's how he feels because I got a
Speaker 1: record with him, and he says on the record, I
Speaker 1: got one more album is done with all parties involved.
Speaker 1: And I didn't even catchure. I didn't even capture because
Speaker 1: so when I'm looking at the Report club interview, people
Speaker 1: was like, you said it on your recket. I said,
Speaker 1: that's how about a proposal? I am. I was sitting
Speaker 1: there there like holy Ship, he did say, And like
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I come from that camp. I
Speaker 1: come from a camp with tragedy put us on. I
Speaker 1: wanted Tragh just to to drag a different amount of
Speaker 1: I'm out of the story, but I want to try
Speaker 1: to stay on Trash let me go, boys. I wanted
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I want to buy myself off the contract.
Speaker 1: I wanted him to be like, no, just let me go.
Speaker 1: As a person that I've been to do that type
Speaker 1: of thing. Let me just remind yourself with me and
Speaker 1: Trash squashed and Trash got together and made sure we
Speaker 1: straightened it all out. He reminded us that we split
Speaker 1: four chicken wings and fries together. He had to say that, like, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: to at all that the ship that we did, all
Speaker 1: this beautiful ship we got let school back and the
Speaker 1: four chicken wings and French frience and we went to them.
Speaker 1: You really got this, You really got the chicken wings
Speaker 1: and products. We had to we had to get the
Speaker 1: nasty hot sauce, you know, you know, you know, the
Speaker 1: hood hot sauce to fight the pack ship in there
Speaker 1: for you know what, like you gotta you just gotta
Speaker 1: remind yourself. It's just like, yo, no matter how much
Speaker 1: we get, they were gonna remember our dream at first,
Speaker 1: and we did that ship. So I just want to
Speaker 1: give that advice, you know what I'm saying, because now
Speaker 1: that's real ship we get. We get advice like that
Speaker 1: from from the ogs all the time, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And and and if if they're sitting back
Speaker 1: thinking that this Brazil the ship perfect, come on, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's perfect, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like sometimes you know, but that's your fault, you know
Speaker 1: why you're presented it like that. No, we just we
Speaker 1: just printed. That's just what it is, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like, why would people think that though like everything
Speaker 1: perfectin't nothing perfect like you just said, ain't nothing perfect.
Speaker 1: So anytime people get to see some ship, they ain't
Speaker 1: see it. And then you're right, like I haven't watched
Speaker 1: the interview, you know, I'm saying. Of course people hit
Speaker 1: me about it, but I hasn't been on the phone
Speaker 1: since that we're going on tour. It's beautiful. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I just I was the person that got felt victim
Speaker 1: to that type of ship. I was a person that
Speaker 1: when again, when I wanted to leave the label, and
Speaker 1: I said I wanted to leave the label, it was
Speaker 1: a part of me that wanted him to say, Yo, nigga,
Speaker 1: you ain't leave it. Like you you can't leave that bro,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: motherfucker's like they feel like if me conway going on
Speaker 1: and like with our own labels or our own situation,
Speaker 1: they think that's leaving Briseila because you got your only
Speaker 1: but what he wanted, right, Yes, I do, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yes I do Monarch shout on Monarch.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I've been doing that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like like like West new me for that
Speaker 1: to always have my own ship going on. So when
Speaker 1: people see me doing the ship that I'm doing, and
Speaker 1: it's like I'm drifting away. I've never drifting away. That
Speaker 1: always was his plan. That's why I sit in the song.
Speaker 1: This is this is what's playing. Is what he saw
Speaker 1: because you told me before I knew on some g ship.
Speaker 1: When I signed that contract for Zell dollars, He's like, yo, budget,
Speaker 1: You're about to be the biggest ship ever. I don't
Speaker 1: got a dollar in my pocket. I'm like, I hope
Speaker 1: you right, nigger. I'm saying he was right right. You know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I was. I was campaigning for you. I
Speaker 1: can sit here to be on Depth Jam, even back
Speaker 1: in the first day. I believe in the first day
Speaker 1: you met DMX, is that yeah, yeah, remember that day? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was so dope to see because I is not
Speaker 1: technically a and all. He's sitting here, I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking like third person, like third person, but
Speaker 1: he's not technically and on. But I've never seen him
Speaker 1: a hype. He said, the bunch of bunch of I'm
Speaker 1: just like with me, just like she's Louise. He campaign
Speaker 1: from you to go to Depth Jam, obviously saying what
Speaker 1: I wanted to say what the deal didn't get closed? Now,
Speaker 1: how the hell does the West coast nigga? And we
Speaker 1: just spoke about this with him as well, how does
Speaker 1: this man really It just happened because uh, he just
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and it worked in my favor,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, sometimes when you
Speaker 1: when you when you're talking, when you're talking through people
Speaker 1: lions get crossed. I'm not saying that was my situation,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, like he made me
Speaker 1: feel comfortable, like nigga, nigga, you better tell them nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm we're gonna call him tomorrow. But you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like he gave me an energy. I
Speaker 1: was comfortable with what I'm saying. Shout out with the
Speaker 1: whole Devil Jam and I love def Jam. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna I'm a buffalo. And they get signed to Devil Jam,
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's crazy. I'm gonna tell you the first
Speaker 1: day outside of death Jam God, he shut me down
Speaker 1: immediately happening. It's a very bad thing. I'm going to
Speaker 1: sign you know you you signed downstairs to don't tell
Speaker 1: him you coming up stairs. I'm going upstairs to to
Speaker 1: uh uh to sign my contract. And looks at me.
Speaker 1: He looks at me just like this. They don't celebrate nigga,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what what kind of even ship are
Speaker 1: you doing right now? Celebrating? It was Christal back then.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got to Christal. I was there. They
Speaker 1: were gonna smokes and said guards he said, don't celebrate,
Speaker 1: and I was like damn. He was like, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to work harder here then you did independently. Was
Speaker 1: he right? No, I'm meant to say that for years
Speaker 1: he was right, But he was right to a certain
Speaker 1: extent where I expected. I didn't get this is a
Speaker 1: different regime aptly, And you said you're enjoying it so far.
Speaker 1: You So you're saying, because this is a lifelong question
Speaker 1: that we had major or in pended, you are do
Speaker 1: you like more? Which one I like more? Really? So boom,
Speaker 1: I haven't done no devn stating business yet. Just you
Speaker 1: got to check. This makes a much for that you.
Speaker 1: I don't be I don't even know I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: just be saying, real ship. It's like, you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: I think I've been hearing this before I signed the
Speaker 1: giminy take the longest with the money. I don't got
Speaker 1: to check yet. You know, I'm saying it's on the way.
Speaker 1: I checked my compa. It's coming, bro, it's coming. I'm
Speaker 1: I just be wanting people to know that. Looking at me,
Speaker 1: they said, you want a new pair of cases. I
Speaker 1: don't get that problem. I ain't gonna lie. So he
Speaker 1: didn't answer me. He said I was saying, I don't
Speaker 1: know yet, okay, And I'm saying, you gotta ask me
Speaker 1: this maybe eighteen twenty four months and I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but it depended has been good for me.
Speaker 1: And like you said, like, yeah, something you didn't get
Speaker 1: what you was like, I'm gonna expect. I expect certain things.
Speaker 1: I don't expect everything. No. I thought I was signing
Speaker 1: to the Yankees, and then I realized, like the Yankees
Speaker 1: don't sunk with each other neither. You'd be seeing these
Speaker 1: giving each other five you don't know, and when they
Speaker 1: turned around some of the things like fun this nigga
Speaker 1: like he's home running. Just had to get them on five.
Speaker 1: But you know what I say, But I realized it
Speaker 1: was like it was nothing together even even even rocket phone.
Speaker 1: I had to tell uh, they wouldn't tell me. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't tell me they were breaking up at all. But
Speaker 1: I wasn't privileged for that information. But it wasn't what
Speaker 1: it what I expected. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: got over there. That's why the biggest keeps saying, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: because um, you ain't signed a contract. I said, that's
Speaker 1: how rich y'all motherfucker's was y'all didn't even care about
Speaker 1: giving me a contract that gave me about change I
Speaker 1: was saying, up, but yeah it was. It's weird for me,
Speaker 1: So me personally, I'm gonna tell you, I don't like
Speaker 1: the independent hustle. The nigga says independent work fifteen times hard,
Speaker 1: not real. That's the only will. That's what's the most
Speaker 1: important part of that. That's true. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: oh co hardly. I agree with you, but I like,
Speaker 1: get what I did. You say? You're like, yo, a stupid.
Speaker 1: I ain't just majors took care of I wasn't one
Speaker 1: of those dudes like I brought my pulses and backed
Speaker 1: my second album, So I was one of those dudes
Speaker 1: that they did fair. They kind of did me fair.
Speaker 1: So then I got used to it, and boy, when
Speaker 1: I went independent, it didn't work out for me. He
Speaker 1: didn't work out. It didn't work out. I guess I
Speaker 1: wanted to go right back to the major not real ship.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to see. I'm trying to like
Speaker 1: take my ship to the next level. That's what I
Speaker 1: did it for. You know what I'm saying. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of ship just out my reach because
Speaker 1: I do a lot of ship myself, Like you said,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like yo yo West West
Speaker 1: really showed me everything just by being him, what I mean,
Speaker 1: And I took a lot of ship in my own hands,
Speaker 1: and I do a lot, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like and then you need a break. But you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I need like I need to
Speaker 1: get some big records. I'm saying, I love, I love
Speaker 1: everything about being a major. No, but see look the
Speaker 1: difference with him and a lot of artists that are
Speaker 1: independent that go to majors. You go with that mentality,
Speaker 1: you could take advantage of the situation versus or does
Speaker 1: it goes straight to the majors? And I would saying
Speaker 1: that I'm saying for you, so you don't gotta sound
Speaker 1: like you're being cocky. But depth Jam needs you, sir,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know what and and that's another
Speaker 1: big thing. They bring it touch you over there. It's
Speaker 1: a new team over there, and I'm part of that.
Speaker 1: And I'm part of that new team. So it's like
Speaker 1: everybody got a chip on their should over there, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you know, what I mean,
Speaker 1: we all we all, we all got that in common.
Speaker 1: We all got that, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: all want to show what we're about to do. So
Speaker 1: I like, I like being a part of that. And
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm telling you, when it works, it works,
Speaker 1: when it works for your favor. Really is one of
Speaker 1: the best things in the world. You can go on tour.
Speaker 1: You go, you gotta support, there's no rather support like
Speaker 1: a major every city the street team just coming downstairs
Speaker 1: and giving you you know, have to see it. Man,
Speaker 1: I gotta say. I gotta say this though, shout out
Speaker 1: the motherfucking Ghazi and oh yeah, I gotta say that.
Speaker 1: Guys ain't email because their system. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I helped build my ship up off of their system.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, motherfucking uh plugs I met no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not plugs. Motherfucking tend to talk three Burton approof motherfucking
Speaker 1: tend to talk for I'm saying, that's all with them.
Speaker 1: So I helped build that, helped build my ship up
Speaker 1: over there, and they do a lot of ship but
Speaker 1: plugs I met one and two. You know, I'm saying
Speaker 1: I did those on my own and what I'm saying
Speaker 1: with John Jack collect next record, Harry Fraud, I did
Speaker 1: them ship on my own. I'm saying, how do you
Speaker 1: look up with Alchemists? My first time, my first time
Speaker 1: in l A. I went to the out house and
Speaker 1: I recorded a song for the album The West. It's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this this nick a nice or Aul probably heard some
Speaker 1: ship so he let me rock only did one song,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I mean I was
Speaker 1: still on the short leash ship like that, but end
Speaker 1: up end up going back and forth, and I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm hungry, and we made some good ship together.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, that's what we wanted up to y'all.
Speaker 1: Period is Guten Callus Monado owns classic materials. Well that's
Speaker 1: my guy right there. Material and uh An Altamist. I
Speaker 1: would go to Altlamist crib and he would play with
Speaker 1: your ships so bad, like the error is not dead
Speaker 1: before anybody else. I was hearing that too, you know what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Los was doing the same thing. Yeah for me,
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of niggas back back then. I
Speaker 1: heard a lot of people say that like your out
Speaker 1: played me some loose ship, like yo, Yeah, lose, lose,
Speaker 1: put me back? You know what I mean? Real ship?
Speaker 1: I ain't. They both got some goods because they've seen
Speaker 1: it a long time ago. But all how about Kanye West?
Speaker 1: How did you let you a couple him? Just by
Speaker 1: him fucking with Griselda I guess, or you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, or his relationship he got with actually just
Speaker 1: told us to come out there with the Sunday Service
Speaker 1: mad him and ship like that? Man? How you how
Speaker 1: would you hook up with Kanye West? Been my little niggs?
Speaker 1: They just like that he is he is. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you this, it's different. I never knew what free men
Speaker 1: until I hung out with him recently, and we all
Speaker 1: free right, You're all free back right now. You want
Speaker 1: to go to Jamaica. You're not just going to Jamaica
Speaker 1: to the mom. You're gonna say, let's plan it out
Speaker 1: a week when it make sure the weed man is
Speaker 1: out there. You want to make sure the villas you got.
Speaker 1: That's not how you live. Where he wanted to do
Speaker 1: and he just flew. He's can I feel with you tomorrow?
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he meant drink Champs or not.
Speaker 1: I like this go. They just flew here, and he
Speaker 1: came early. He wasn't here, so he stood in McDonald's.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to McDonald's work. Once I hit h Different,
Speaker 1: it's just me and you walking around no more McDonald
Speaker 1: was this stick doesn't McDonald and different definitely, So you
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to actually um get you on.
Speaker 1: But for a person like me, just experience and know
Speaker 1: what I'm like, You know what I mean, a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't understand that about me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like even like what this record with Drake
Speaker 1: that that you know, people be asking you gonna throw
Speaker 1: that out there like that, I'm like saying, because I
Speaker 1: know that, I know that question was coming in. Ye
Speaker 1: like that, let's make a to that. It's like everybody like, yo,
Speaker 1: when that when when that? When that record coming out?
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you need a record with hold. Like
Speaker 1: for people even to be saying you like that, it's
Speaker 1: still crazy to me, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: was like, that's nuts. God, let me be honest with you.
Speaker 1: The unicorns in the game funk with you. That's a fact.
Speaker 1: The un heavy heavy though, you know what I'm saying that,
Speaker 1: And and I just let me know, like you were saying,
Speaker 1: like the clouth this this really this this y'all ship.
Speaker 1: So y'all respect how we carry it. So that's why
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, That's why that that's why
Speaker 1: I love is extended like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So when they come back, I'll be knowing what that means.
Speaker 1: You know. Now that's real. That's real talk, man um.
Speaker 1: You got a real support system, I tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: I didn't see artists support like since like I used
Speaker 1: see other artists support like kind of where they supporting
Speaker 1: y'all since Woultank Klan, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like like like everyone had their favorite out of the
Speaker 1: Wolf then you know when they were together. But I
Speaker 1: always forgo to a woul Tang show back in the
Speaker 1: days and I would always see a nas there, a
Speaker 1: big day mall d and it was like, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen that support from other artists since, y'all that's dope,
Speaker 1: and they used to be working with us and to
Speaker 1: be like niggas who who don't even do this type
Speaker 1: of music sometimes, you know what I'm saying. So this
Speaker 1: grontel that ship like you said that and make niggas
Speaker 1: want to wrap me who don't even do this type
Speaker 1: of ship. Make niggas want to wrap the niggas who
Speaker 1: feel like they retired, the niggas who the young niggas.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: funk it is, man, what I'm saying, because you're doing
Speaker 1: ship with a lot of artists wish they could do
Speaker 1: and still make a penny off of the we couldn't imagine.
Speaker 1: You're good at it, and I'm good at it, I mean,
Speaker 1: but sometimes it's just like for me being here, I've
Speaker 1: been good at this ship for years or that's what
Speaker 1: I mean, just trying to tell people like you can't
Speaker 1: we we really been the niggas. So it's like, damn you,
Speaker 1: it took more than being good at this ship. They
Speaker 1: depended to take more than being good at this It's like,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, this is your time, this is your time
Speaker 1: to show to get some of the some of that
Speaker 1: daily o up like that. You're ready hold on us
Speaker 1: like they get them getting the Okay, what then is
Speaker 1: up with you? On Freddy Man was Homies went on
Speaker 1: toll and all this ship really ain't ain't nothing up?
Speaker 1: You know, what I mean, Like, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: get to like into like rap relationships with me, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because a lot of times it
Speaker 1: don't be real. That's what I'm saying. Is so like
Speaker 1: I guess that nigga, that nigga put a tweet up
Speaker 1: or some weird ship. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know why he did that ship. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was homby, So that's what I thought. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So is this is this is her first
Speaker 1: time going through the industry crazy ship. It's gonna happen
Speaker 1: more and more. No, but it's the first time. Because
Speaker 1: even even if if if a person do some do
Speaker 1: something that made me look weird because like you said, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that was you. I thought that. You know,
Speaker 1: many people asking me like I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you. I don't. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it was nothing that led up to that was
Speaker 1: like no argument. I can't eat with Jordan's. I can't
Speaker 1: think I could. I don't know what I'm saying. So me,
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even like care though pondering,
Speaker 1: I'm like you expect that you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and I expect that you know this, get you know
Speaker 1: this ship, get this ship and get crazy because if
Speaker 1: you if you start letting your feelings in this ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But that that's one thing
Speaker 1: that I know from being older getting to this ship.
Speaker 1: I cannot let my feelings in this ship because niggas
Speaker 1: to break my heart. Real ship then, and this is
Speaker 1: gonna sound well fucked up, But how I started to
Speaker 1: move with the industry is I don't I expect niggas
Speaker 1: to be corny, like I put it, expect I expect
Speaker 1: people to be I don't expect it to be me.
Speaker 1: So I started having expectations and that's just saved my
Speaker 1: life almost because it was certain artists have a funk
Speaker 1: with me. Then I'm hot. Then there around me a
Speaker 1: little more, and then you know, I got cold. Everyone
Speaker 1: had to go sometimes and then coldness. Niggers won't even
Speaker 1: answer my calls. So I just said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't just say the same and exactly. But I
Speaker 1: don't expect anybody else. I don't spect anybody. And you
Speaker 1: got that select few who who you wanta met, Like okay,
Speaker 1: this is like me, you know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: was that's a genuine and sometimes it might not be
Speaker 1: your favorite, or it might not be the person you
Speaker 1: make good music with, or it might not be the
Speaker 1: person with. You know what I'm saying, It might just
Speaker 1: be you know, you know how this ship goes. I know,
Speaker 1: oh I know, And that's more valuable than that mean.
Speaker 1: But like you said earlier, its relationship. Like what I
Speaker 1: said Gotti, God he was doing to me when he
Speaker 1: was telling me not to celebrate, was not to have
Speaker 1: these expectations that I had. He wondered, like he like
Speaker 1: in retrospect, I do understand what he was saying. It
Speaker 1: just wasn't that day to say. I think. I think
Speaker 1: that's what people trying to be trying to tell me,
Speaker 1: because like, yeah, you don't have the expectations. But that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's like people don't know what I expect.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I expect them to motherfucking
Speaker 1: hand me performing at the Super Bowl. No, but hell yeah,
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: it's like I'm gonna still do my part. I could
Speaker 1: never slack and feel like somebody gonna do all to
Speaker 1: work for me. You know what I mean. Well, it's
Speaker 1: a great label. I really want to see what they
Speaker 1: do with you. But this is we're gonna gonna move on.
Speaker 1: Come on, this is a game that we play. Let's
Speaker 1: give him, let's come brothers, let's give my brother come over.
Speaker 1: Was set up and let me get mine. We don't
Speaker 1: we don't know if you know our shows about giving
Speaker 1: niggas they flowers now, let's start saying about but about
Speaker 1: giving folks they flowers now, and we don't. We want
Speaker 1: you to know to your face, face to face, man,
Speaker 1: you land bad motherfucker did s talking monkey footing these
Speaker 1: motherfucker's and they face. We need to appreciate that, man.
Speaker 1: And we got you, We got your back. So this
Speaker 1: is my Japanese delion. I got to the side right here,
Speaker 1: some special Javanese DeLand. So damn, Mr League, at your openness.
Speaker 1: This just looks like it looks like it's about to
Speaker 1: get drink. Okay, okay, first one, so this is how
Speaker 1: you want to explain the rules because you like explaining ver.
Speaker 1: We don't like politically correct answers. So if you act
Speaker 1: politically correct the answer that way, you're drinking. We drinking
Speaker 1: were all drinking, so it's one or the other. But
Speaker 1: if you say both are neither, we're drinking drinking, leave
Speaker 1: you outside by yourself. But it's shot still, sir. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna get you the deli already. You got the
Speaker 1: American something. You're welcome to my daily I got. Let
Speaker 1: your niggas give me a trouble. We need you. We
Speaker 1: will decide still, but we're gonna get you drunk. Don
Speaker 1: a little bit, Jake Cole or kid you mm hmm Cole? Really,
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna see both. I can't lie you
Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls or Big help Uh the smallest I would
Speaker 1: say that too, Kane or rock Camp. M take a drink,
Speaker 1: so let him think about it. Man, No nigger you
Speaker 1: are you actually called the kid drink. That was the
Speaker 1: hardest one. So that was the hardest one so far.
Speaker 1: But I gotta go. I gotta go rock Camp. That's
Speaker 1: was that at the verses that everyone really wanted to
Speaker 1: see rock Him and came. I wanted to see that ship.
Speaker 1: You wanted to see I want to see that ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I wanted to see rock
Speaker 1: Him both of them. Maga still had a caame with
Speaker 1: dance and this ship. Yeah he do a split though,
Speaker 1: can you do that split? Spic the other day? Okay?
Speaker 1: Um meat meal or fat? Then you know on both
Speaker 1: my niggas and me, you get a drink and y'all
Speaker 1: drink that my my wheeze we drinking that those both
Speaker 1: my niggers. I was spelling that. You know that time
Speaker 1: was dearly on. It's very nice lass slack on black
Speaker 1: one little get the tap Japanese stally on. What's your no?
Speaker 1: Rick James or Prince Rick motherfucking James? Enough? Good too? Rick?
Speaker 1: That Ricket is that nigger Rickets that nigga I name
Speaker 1: my name a song got the rick Man tend to
Speaker 1: talk three but Rick, that nig we got wet have
Speaker 1: needed more? Give me the mirror or that nigga something real?
Speaker 1: Ship man push your teeth or Jada kiss uh kiss.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that, you know, I was gonna
Speaker 1: say that. It felt like like like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I want to I want to ask my push your
Speaker 1: teeth later? N w wait or will take clan except
Speaker 1: that wait your fast? Yeah, because I'm just being I'm
Speaker 1: naming the niggers why I got personal relationships with it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I might you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Okay, I'm with that ship that I got
Speaker 1: one coolgi rapper Prodigy. Take a shot to that, she
Speaker 1: sh I'm gonna get mine ready, I can take a
Speaker 1: shot to that. That motherfucker that that song raised me
Speaker 1: murder music my goose played that ship a million times already.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I did. I'm sorry, get your ship always drop,
Speaker 1: give this ship every night, well side, little my brother.
Speaker 1: My brother's cold like that. You're let's just say, I
Speaker 1: don't even happy to do that bottle still sweating, Okay,
Speaker 1: A Chapaneese Telly on the city Roman kid, Drake, hold
Speaker 1: little Wayne, drink a little Wayne. I'm gonna say, Wayne,
Speaker 1: I just did the other ship. Then I picked Drake
Speaker 1: fro st Wayne. You want that Drake versus to clip.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see Drake, I said, Drake last time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: some last time feeling what I mean? Okay, that's all
Speaker 1: I mean. Queen l tetha empty light. Light is a rock.
Speaker 1: You can play that ship shiny peace. Caddy used to
Speaker 1: play that ship in that caddy all the time. I
Speaker 1: had lighted the rock shop. French Montana or Rick Ross.
Speaker 1: It was likely taking the shot. Take a shot, but
Speaker 1: there go my n I seen Rose last night, shut
Speaker 1: us a Ross like the Japanese. Definitely, y'all. Maybe I
Speaker 1: gotta stop taking big shot. It's a long game, buddy,
Speaker 1: No your my ship, my ship got slimmerd this so little.
Speaker 1: I'm ready Okay boom boom okay Jordan and Lebron, fucking
Speaker 1: King James. I can see that. I can see that.
Speaker 1: I'm going with the relationships, got strategy, and I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. Lebron is like the new A and l
Speaker 1: get real nigger. He knows what he'd be doing when
Speaker 1: he'd be doing that. Yo, yo, listen when he when
Speaker 1: your ship and then with that's like that was like
Speaker 1: the ultimate cost and Lebron, Lebron never brought to under
Speaker 1: my ship. No he did. He did home Boy, home Boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that was in he's in college. He was
Speaker 1: le Bron want back, but the brown body ship. That's like,
Speaker 1: that's like, you know what's crazy? And listen, I big
Speaker 1: up to the low boats. My people's math car at him.
Speaker 1: And this is being honest. It almost feels like when
Speaker 1: Lebron bumps your ship five mix. You remember how like
Speaker 1: if you was getting for Mike's five because of the standard,
Speaker 1: just go and get your ship, like I know. For
Speaker 1: in fact, we went gold over just Mike's and then
Speaker 1: obviously actually had to be good. But I feel like
Speaker 1: Lagards took over that position, like hell yeah, because last
Speaker 1: time we he did that ship, my ship was triggered.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying makes some noise with the
Speaker 1: bomb and you know why, you know why, and this
Speaker 1: is this is probably the reason I shouldn't big big enough.
Speaker 1: But he'd be letting the cursor words playing all that
Speaker 1: you've been here, Yeah you're thinking, like how big he don't?
Speaker 1: But ain't crazy watching watching the show, the barber shop
Speaker 1: show they got watching the football basketball names cuss like
Speaker 1: a motherfucker. Yeah, the craziest. I like it that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I liked it that. Yeah, Yeah, I definitely do undersputed.
Speaker 1: This call right undersputed, m get your shot ready, we
Speaker 1: got one for me? Call me or Westside the too
Speaker 1: too crazy when the like you gotta take a shot.
Speaker 1: This is definitely up time. We are definitely I'm sorry
Speaker 1: said I should I should have I should have dodged
Speaker 1: a couple of the brothers ship. I'm come on a
Speaker 1: shot to it. I mean, its a reason I'm right here. Man.
Speaker 1: That's fine, man, that's real, that's fine. Dolly. Come on,
Speaker 1: y'all know nobody got there and one out of this ship.
Speaker 1: Stop looking. Oh okay, yea, I should be drinking with us, yea,
Speaker 1: Tupac or dmx uh X. Let's let's you met him
Speaker 1: definitely because I met him in because it's more, you know,
Speaker 1: he was my era, you know what I'm saying. Of
Speaker 1: course I felt pot I was twelve when part passed away.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I remember, like even before
Speaker 1: I met X, my motherfucker, like I told you, I
Speaker 1: told him that they was at a pool hall and
Speaker 1: buffalo before we went up there, I rapped on the
Speaker 1: nigger Jack he was with Jack. I rapped on his
Speaker 1: mother fucking answering machine and ship fact. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's my error, you know what I mean. By the
Speaker 1: way belly all that ship, I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think i've ever seen dmx CO sign another hardest period
Speaker 1: like the way with y'all, I haven't seen that period
Speaker 1: beside he dragged on. Yeah, ex don't like nobody, but
Speaker 1: you don't you don't he want that to be known
Speaker 1: like that day And I said, I got, I got,
Speaker 1: I've been in the pus it. He sincerely liked you.
Speaker 1: He was sincerely like he was real a fan. The
Speaker 1: first something I got to hit the record all the
Speaker 1: birth together. He played me that new ship. He just
Speaker 1: played played it some crazy ship, played the ship with bottle.
Speaker 1: You know, it was crazy that place that we met
Speaker 1: at the next fo Ever heat there you hang out
Speaker 1: the parking lot s. We gotta go back there. We
Speaker 1: gotta go back there. Give me listen to my album.
Speaker 1: I start off one of the carts carvo, I'm point cool.
Speaker 1: I signed, Yeah, I ain't gonna lie yo. Um. That
Speaker 1: was dope. Um to get to see that moment. Are
Speaker 1: you an extra smacking five and just just hugging each
Speaker 1: other because again, like I said, and actually one of
Speaker 1: those guys that he I don't think I've ever heard
Speaker 1: excel a lie like he Obviously he had no reason
Speaker 1: a lot of meat, But I can't say that about
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: he was really like a heaven sent person and for
Speaker 1: him to go side and for him to be open,
Speaker 1: but he was open me and you like, go look
Speaker 1: at my Instagram, look at that footage. And I was like,
Speaker 1: damn up. He was like behind the wheel crazy. I
Speaker 1: don't get a call with him at all. I've learned
Speaker 1: my lesson. He has no license, need to do why
Speaker 1: I drive like I don't got no license too. That's
Speaker 1: the same ship he drives like he got government issues
Speaker 1: going back? How slow the police are going. I ain't
Speaker 1: passing the police he needs. I'm saying that that's ship
Speaker 1: that I'm telling. I'm telling my girl. I'm saying, that's
Speaker 1: that ship with people with a license. Do tell none
Speaker 1: of that ship You're gonna like I'm burning all the
Speaker 1: time anyway, the motherfucker I'm burning all the time. I'm
Speaker 1: disrespecting to my call. I'm sorry, telling on yourself. A
Speaker 1: smart call's smoking your old ship, Hey man, pick up
Speaker 1: in my fist eggs. You don't smoke in his own call.
Speaker 1: He got to be lax, hit away by alchemists. M hm.
Speaker 1: He's trying to make me how many of these questions
Speaker 1: is left? It's the only part of the show. I
Speaker 1: don't got nothing to do with it, But I don't
Speaker 1: answer the questions. These two motherfuckers. They study you and
Speaker 1: then they make it the questions as you go. Man.
Speaker 1: You know Al, I came in and ship with Al
Speaker 1: and Deringer. You know what I'm saying. I mean, hit boy,
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta, we gotta, we gotta a moment
Speaker 1: in time, a moment in my career. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I could you're gonna hit that Japanese
Speaker 1: tell y'all exactly, Okay, let's go. I can't choose hit
Speaker 1: the y'all of y'all those my niggers. I can't choose. Now.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's why they even motherfucker's these questions signs.
Speaker 1: How many of these ships last? I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's getting good, it's getting worse. Oh this is easy
Speaker 1: for me. I don't know for you, almatic or reasonable doubt? Reasonable? Wow,
Speaker 1: reasonable doubt because like I said, my error, my favorite
Speaker 1: NAS album is By Time. I was listening to music
Speaker 1: and digesting the music, and people are gonna disagree with
Speaker 1: me when they when they see this is I am.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? He got the yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when my queen's he's africant. That that's when I'm
Speaker 1: digesting music the right way. I'm fourteen years old and
Speaker 1: I'm saying so it's like, Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know you know how to go back and listen
Speaker 1: to that. You know what I mean? You know what?
Speaker 1: And I told us to him the other day. I
Speaker 1: didn't like Doubt, and obviously I went back and studied
Speaker 1: it and I love it now because it's a classic now.
Speaker 1: But I told to the y'all of all the day
Speaker 1: and he goes, you you always say that on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I said on him a lot. I was a broke
Speaker 1: niggab with reasonable dog game. Even later all Fly Ship,
Speaker 1: he made niggas feel bad about having a four point
Speaker 1: Oh we in life's a rain drove our suck a call.
Speaker 1: We're in a five hundred is a sucker call. That's
Speaker 1: how much like he was talking that money talk back then,
Speaker 1: talking about he wearing the platinum ship. Yeah, platinum when
Speaker 1: they thought it was gold that he was driving. When
Speaker 1: I couldn't relate to that, she couldn't win. Later, what
Speaker 1: does he take some of that ship? At four point
Speaker 1: of get your change what I want to change? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: niggas stop winning jerseys. I remember I used to. I
Speaker 1: used to play my radio and here that ship on
Speaker 1: the mix show on the weekends, like going to bed,
Speaker 1: like going to church the next morning. Hearing it on
Speaker 1: a Saturday night mix show in jail, not in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: As a kid, you know, I'm so he just subscribed.
Speaker 1: It sound like crazy, all right, Oh careressell l L
Speaker 1: l L. But this is you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I said, that's before my time. But I heard
Speaker 1: and from what I've seen that l L never lost
Speaker 1: the battle, not saying not saying, k R rest one,
Speaker 1: I ever lost one, but not only that. You ever
Speaker 1: been to an All show, I've never been like, you
Speaker 1: can't figure your girl there? You handing out roses and
Speaker 1: ship what I need. I never actually brought my girl's concert.
Speaker 1: Just is a kid, y'all know. But I've been to
Speaker 1: an All concert and I was just mad, like what
Speaker 1: the fun? He in the middle of his show, he
Speaker 1: takes off his shirt and he gets every girl roses,
Speaker 1: Like if you're with your girl, nigga, ki your roses
Speaker 1: with his shirt off? This is not cool. The l
Speaker 1: she can't reach here, she can't reach for one. By
Speaker 1: the way, by the way, let me just I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm supposed to say this. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: me out of the time, got me to perform. I'm
Speaker 1: performing for August. That's crazy and queens. He called me himself. Damn.
Speaker 1: By the way, I also invited Drink champ stare as well,
Speaker 1: because I shouldn't be telling you talking about it. You
Speaker 1: can't take like that's that's certain things you just can't
Speaker 1: say no to. He called and said, I know you
Speaker 1: ain't performing no more. I know you do want some
Speaker 1: other ship, but I would like to have you perform
Speaker 1: Drink Change backstage and Juicy Juice far and I just
Speaker 1: said yes without confining. You know, my partners with Rock
Speaker 1: the bills on coming home with the documentary like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like that, so yeah they uh yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to have cares one back on head. We protected him
Speaker 1: back here. If your dam was going crazy, I kept
Speaker 1: trying to change the sun ship. It was still trying
Speaker 1: to battle on your phone, talking kinds of coffee. It
Speaker 1: was hilarious. Holy shit. Um m hmm, scarface ice Cube,
Speaker 1: you can't handle this, but yes you can't. I know
Speaker 1: what you were saying. I take you, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: face I'm gonna go face. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I remember relationship wise, uh, I just I just remember,
Speaker 1: like having them that Gettle Boys tape. Remember having it
Speaker 1: Doug and just I mean you have a beskar face
Speaker 1: did I can't remember. I mean I can't get with
Speaker 1: him over the phone a couple of times, but I
Speaker 1: don't think I remember the record with y'all to be
Speaker 1: Crazy Real Ship. We got a record with the Mechanics.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They got the record. But
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly or Josh Allen, your motherfucking Kelly. I'm on
Speaker 1: for the Real Bills fan. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I love Josh Shaller. Josh Shallen is that nigger, But
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly is what I'm saying. Come on, real Ship,
Speaker 1: Come on, okay, Primo or Pete Rock. Mm hmm, Primo,
Speaker 1: Pete Rock. You don't hear that, nigga too. I got
Speaker 1: some some of my best ship over the Rock. I
Speaker 1: gotta keep remembering, like when when a person makes it,
Speaker 1: I guess I can't. I gotta keep the straight face
Speaker 1: begs be getting mad at me, like world up, like
Speaker 1: where you have to say that. Definitely one of my
Speaker 1: ships I said classics with Pete Rock. You gotta see
Speaker 1: it smoothly, you know what I'm saying. So definitely little
Speaker 1: baby or young ug mm hmmm, damn little baby or dugger.
Speaker 1: I take a drink, all right, that's all talking about.
Speaker 1: You know. I like how I like how how they
Speaker 1: both carry it. I like them both. When niggas played
Speaker 1: with Game as honest as me, I'm not sure, sir,
Speaker 1: something something something. I think Game played it pretty honest,
Speaker 1: solo solo. It was pretty soon. Alasa Keys is honest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was honest. There's a couple of you know, see
Speaker 1: food y'all out drinking a lot. Though, if you are
Speaker 1: gonna drink a lot, you're gonna drink a lot. Okay.
Speaker 1: This is where I like the game. M O P
Speaker 1: or Marty mm hmmm. I gotta go with the mob.
Speaker 1: I would have had to take a shot to that.
Speaker 1: I gotta go with the mob. I'm just saying. It's
Speaker 1: like I'm telling how the great relationship with product y'all. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and my first cool soign you guys, I Niggers was
Speaker 1: drinking bruise with Pete. So it's like I funk with Pete.
Speaker 1: I know he reached out the Conway. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He knew Conway was even when Conway ain't
Speaker 1: even think that nigga knew And like said that that
Speaker 1: was the first tape I ever bought, Like wow, not
Speaker 1: even the infamous heard of music. That's like the third album, right,
Speaker 1: because what is it? Because Summer ninety nine, I'm onna
Speaker 1: point like that, Okay, Summer nine. That point I'm gonna state.
Speaker 1: You know that one year, you know that one year
Speaker 1: when you jump up the porch, Yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: was that year, Summer ninety nine. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: And I say this all the time on the show.
Speaker 1: I went to a Mob Deep show. This is when
Speaker 1: I came home from jail. I still like call Craft soap.
Speaker 1: You know whom you just come home? You just you
Speaker 1: you gotta figure out the orro know. You just got
Speaker 1: me thinking about that White should definitely the second I
Speaker 1: went too far anyway. So I remember going to a
Speaker 1: Mob Deep show. A friend of mine, his name is
Speaker 1: Carlos from Queen's Bridge, and he said, I want to
Speaker 1: show you what this ship. It's like he didn't even
Speaker 1: know it was a rap at the time. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is there was a short of Platio, Mark Deep had
Speaker 1: shoop ones and I think Survival or thes ANDNS drove
Speaker 1: through and everyone from Queen's Bridge just opened up. It
Speaker 1: was like eighty knicks and the I strove through an
Speaker 1: Alexis Ge hundred. He leaned out the window and said,
Speaker 1: Chris Wordge and the whole block lit up for the
Speaker 1: communst niggers. And I did not know what that was,
Speaker 1: but I said, I want that. At that very moment,
Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna be a rapper because of
Speaker 1: what that night was seeing Nas and Mark Deep. So
Speaker 1: when you say that, I understand real ship. Kanye West Farrell,
Speaker 1: mm hmm, I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'm gonna go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just wire podcasts or radio podcast outcasts are U g
Speaker 1: k m hm you g K see that because of
Speaker 1: the the you know, the attitude, the sauce, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This next one, they definitely set you up. Goodness.
Speaker 1: The effens will only built for Cuban links. You cannot
Speaker 1: pick God damn, i'nna lie you cannot. I don't even
Speaker 1: want you to pick you. Yeah, I can't actually in
Speaker 1: those drops like yeah, listen, I can't. I can't pick
Speaker 1: between those two albums. That is definitely a set up.
Speaker 1: This is even Motherfucker's Man solo, Cheerous solo. That's want
Speaker 1: a couple more. If we're gonna get about it, Come on,
Speaker 1: they really trying to set you up? Bro, as far
Speaker 1: with you, just come around ship at all? Who doing this?
Speaker 1: Look at you? But by the way, if they started
Speaker 1: you in order to make these questions right right right,
Speaker 1: Baldy James or stove Gard Listen, by the way, I
Speaker 1: don't let it's over there like shot. It's like shot.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm already drunk, so I'm still part
Speaker 1: of the game. I drinking drunk too. But shoutout jack
Speaker 1: shot off stove guy. Yeah, but I want to ask
Speaker 1: about stove God. Shout out our money, our money right there?
Speaker 1: I got my money here special. I ain't going on
Speaker 1: specially special thinking I gotta lose my hip mark car
Speaker 1: for one day. You're gonna take it from me because
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was one point. Oh shoot, I
Speaker 1: take the shot. Try eating drink it out your TV.
Speaker 1: Have a video music box, video music box. You don't
Speaker 1: have to explain if you don't want to, unless you
Speaker 1: want to. No shouldn't remember watching that ship never never,
Speaker 1: not really ship, just playing whatever they played. Remember that,
Speaker 1: I'm the only old nigga, y'all, y'all remember that. That's
Speaker 1: how it came on the word. Yeah. I was like that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like I was like a kid
Speaker 1: watching that ship. That's one of my earliest memories of
Speaker 1: that ship. You see the documentary, Oh I finally got
Speaker 1: to see Oh, and you said, got a documentary. But
Speaker 1: but I've seen the previews for and they saying the
Speaker 1: nigga who was responsible for I'm like, oh, should I
Speaker 1: don't know? He did that ship? Na, right, But this
Speaker 1: is the reason why you gotta watch it, to see
Speaker 1: Nis go back to being a fan and he's actually intered.
Speaker 1: He's actually interviewing Ralph. He's following Ralph for a round
Speaker 1: to see this rich motherfucker you do humble hisself? Right.
Speaker 1: That's it is very good to see, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's very very very good to see juice
Speaker 1: a new Jack City, Juice juice, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that was that ship the baby or twenty one
Speaker 1: seven mm hmm one twenty one see, and this is
Speaker 1: the last one. This must be a good one. I
Speaker 1: want to say this is a trick question, but it
Speaker 1: really is not. It really is not loyalty or respect,
Speaker 1: uh respect respect. Everyone is slayings this money. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like sometimes I might not even need
Speaker 1: you to be loyal to me, but I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: you to respect me. That's what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 1: those who those who give their loyalty I accepted. If
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna force no loyalty, if it's only respect there,
Speaker 1: I take that. You know what I'm saying. Right as
Speaker 1: simple as that. We always say that that's the only
Speaker 1: the real time to take a shot because we just
Speaker 1: feel like respect can't live without loyalty, loyalty can't live
Speaker 1: without it. Like it is. It's really they really go
Speaker 1: hand their hand. But you know what I'm saying, if
Speaker 1: I had to pick one like you, you gotta respect
Speaker 1: my ship because you know so so so much. Come
Speaker 1: with respect. You know what I'm saying. I respect that
Speaker 1: you know answering these questions and you're talking about the
Speaker 1: age that you were at and generationally, like, how did
Speaker 1: y'all craft the sound that sounds so nostalgic to us,
Speaker 1: Like how do y'all craft that sound? It's still it's
Speaker 1: still still new. No, it makes brand now made it yourself,
Speaker 1: made it your own, completely reintroduced it. Man. Uh, the
Speaker 1: foundations the foundation in Western deringtiphis recording that dare at
Speaker 1: your house in North Buffalo, you know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: And I went over there early early before the Shady deal.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying because it's like, I mean, Special was
Speaker 1: doing our home thing when they when he was doing
Speaker 1: the thing I always do a thirty eight Speci was
Speaker 1: rap because he had because he had to because he
Speaker 1: didn't got the ship joint rap. But like you got me,
Speaker 1: but it's like me, it mean his son against the rap,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that's what that should mean.
Speaker 1: But motherfucking uh, I funk with niggas like Special and
Speaker 1: the other upstate niggas because that's where that pressure comes from.
Speaker 1: Everybody keeping they get sharp in the boot. But yeah,
Speaker 1: because that that that's like a all scenario that you
Speaker 1: got going on. It's your whole It sels like your
Speaker 1: holy color. Yeah, especially with stole Um. He was down
Speaker 1: to Boston. I'm guessing you know it didn't work out
Speaker 1: or whatever. What made you guys embrace it? I think
Speaker 1: I think you know West West is Griselda Record, so
Speaker 1: we's gonna seek the talent for its label. So stop
Speaker 1: know that. To be honest with you, I think he is.
Speaker 1: But I can't. I can't be all the way short.
Speaker 1: I think it's getting too much money right. But but
Speaker 1: we're even if he I'm talking about like paperwork wise, Emily,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, to see you on my
Speaker 1: album and whatever you need for me. It's like, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So to me, he's Griselda, But uh,
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's our own it's our own ship
Speaker 1: like I would saying earlier, And that's what we're gonna do,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think West saw
Speaker 1: him out because he feels like he kind of fit
Speaker 1: his clothing and the same thing. I'm like everybody else.
Speaker 1: I didn't just I didn't just listen to it and
Speaker 1: just was hooked off of it. I heard a couple
Speaker 1: of times I'm like, Yo, this nigga got it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that I mean, so got the
Speaker 1: major deal? Um can't way, Uh, side of shade, do
Speaker 1: out the project or shape? What's next? What's next? Man?
Speaker 1: I think I think like what we've already been doing,
Speaker 1: but pushing the envelope further. You hear how you hear
Speaker 1: Conway brought in his ship on his album, You're gonna
Speaker 1: hear that from me. You're gonna hear it in a
Speaker 1: bigger way. We're about to do. Of course we're gonna
Speaker 1: do another album together, but with shein't going to uh
Speaker 1: should were doing movies? Know what I'm saying. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: doing this movie that I got in the works. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I keep some ship up my
Speaker 1: sleep and you know we're just gonna do everything real ship.
Speaker 1: Knaway got drum work. What's he doing? What he's doing?
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep my foot on
Speaker 1: Nigga's neck and I'm you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: but the depth jam ship is like I wanna my
Speaker 1: ship gotta be because they'll the depth can yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Everything is Griselda's gonna always
Speaker 1: be Griselda. You know what I mean. But it's like
Speaker 1: my ship is to catch levels? Is it take Lottle
Speaker 1: levels not feel like dem chamber was the only way
Speaker 1: I could. I mean, did the Griselda family have a hog?
Speaker 1: We know the sun? Yeah, we know. We talked about
Speaker 1: it on here. Yeah, and I tried to know. I
Speaker 1: connect Bore. I connected Conway with with Michael, Michael, Griselda's son. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we had a freeway Ricky and Michael on here.
Speaker 1: That's my homie, Michael's and it was all four. He
Speaker 1: just wanted to have the conversation because you know, that
Speaker 1: was his mom's and so he's like, yeah, I love
Speaker 1: what they're doing. You know, I just want to have
Speaker 1: the conversation with them so they know. You know, it's
Speaker 1: my family, and I take it serious. And I did
Speaker 1: connect commay. I don't know if they spoke, but I
Speaker 1: connected them. I talked to you here hip hop hip hop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll talked to him because you know, it's the bank
Speaker 1: Griselda obviously. But that's when the cocaid prices was lowest
Speaker 1: in New York. Because that's what I said. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: she was a queen's she was finished come by. I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about it. I thought of that too,
Speaker 1: and that's why That's why I say that to say
Speaker 1: that because you know, um, you know that's really his mom.
Speaker 1: So like like that's like like fire that he's the
Speaker 1: last living because the brothers all got you don't killed.
Speaker 1: That's how real that ship is out there. And he
Speaker 1: you know, he like he got stories at the house.
Speaker 1: He's like bodyguards around them because now he can't remember
Speaker 1: Candle he came with and she was crazy. She was
Speaker 1: the last living son, you know. So yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: kick it with bro. Yeah he could do that ship?
Speaker 1: Is that ship? Is it? So? Man? You guys to
Speaker 1: overseas yet? Now we're going though, We're going motherfucking uh
Speaker 1: in the in the april, top of man, I'm going
Speaker 1: over there. That it gonna be crazy. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: gonna be crazy. I was filming a documentary in South Africa.
Speaker 1: This is like three years ago, hasn't come out yet.
Speaker 1: The film. It's the thing I did with Rock the Belt.
Speaker 1: And we went to this underground station in Johannesburg. The
Speaker 1: first thing they played as Griselda Hardcourt. I'm saying, that's
Speaker 1: what they called it, and that's how they with us
Speaker 1: that that's true. I was surprised to hear it that
Speaker 1: they would stop on it like that. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that is when you wanna relax and just get
Speaker 1: that overseas money. It's the best thing that made me.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I missed about being like I.
Speaker 1: I got the date's book ticket selling on it. We
Speaker 1: got a passport, so he got you he does today?
Speaker 1: He does. Yeah, he doesn't put him with today. I
Speaker 1: came to funk with y'all. He gave Kanye pass and
Speaker 1: the game. I think my ship, Yeah, I need ship ship.
Speaker 1: You gotta Dominican, so it might be it might be
Speaker 1: a Dominican passport. Yeah, yeah, you get game in Stoppart too.
Speaker 1: Just just call alright blind, Yeah yeah, you get your
Speaker 1: Dominican passport and I need one. You know sometimes, but
Speaker 1: when I think I'm Dominican sometimes the size version ship.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you get that too. Hum, Holy, wontly
Speaker 1: clock a boy man? So I'll say, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: tell you who, but they fail that you might not
Speaker 1: think push your teeth it's real. Mm hmmm. I don't
Speaker 1: know who's in me this. That's crazy. Ain't tell me
Speaker 1: send it for that. I think they said, maybe you
Speaker 1: say your credibility as a hustler asked him if he
Speaker 1: thinks other rappers are not real like push you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't. I really can't speak on you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No other niggas, but I funk will push.
Speaker 1: I funk will push. I funk with, I funk with
Speaker 1: like all that everybody who represents that cocaine lane, cocaine streets,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's the streets. Really,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. People call it cocaine rap,
Speaker 1: but it's really the streets. But I funk will push.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean. I don't know why
Speaker 1: nobody say that his Army's commercials that I funk will
Speaker 1: push like everybody in the lane, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I got more notes think so Also you can
Speaker 1: ask me anything. Yeah. Also, you got a song with Russ, right,
Speaker 1: russa Russ a good guy. Let's drink at Some numni
Speaker 1: say to come back about it, but they say something
Speaker 1: about Rus and this is we had the one drinking.
Speaker 1: He has no in between fans. It's either and I
Speaker 1: caught that people. I caught that from working with him.
Speaker 1: I caught that from working with him. Some people. Some
Speaker 1: people was talking about it, but motherfucker's loved me for
Speaker 1: at the same time. And man, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of herters got that you ain't. You don't just have.
Speaker 1: You don't just have. Like a group of motherfucker's who
Speaker 1: hate you were like, it's the Internet going on. I
Speaker 1: was like, motherfucker's who hate you, they get on there
Speaker 1: and tell you like, yeah, we don't like you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: block out niggas. I feel like that's how dream Champs
Speaker 1: love us. I ain't gonna lie to my block, but
Speaker 1: he taught us that he was the one that really advocate.
Speaker 1: Just blocked the motherucker. Now you gotta block niggers when
Speaker 1: they come to your space, when they come to your
Speaker 1: page talking, you don't want to look at that ship.
Speaker 1: Get the funk out of here. And I blocked the
Speaker 1: heart niggers too. Art. Yeah, everybody want logos, No Bit'm
Speaker 1: talking about And sometimes when they and the niggers who
Speaker 1: promote on my patgers, you can't like the niggers know me,
Speaker 1: Like in Buffalo on Facebook, I'm notorious for arguing back
Speaker 1: with niggers. Can't be doing one that we gotta get
Speaker 1: you the time I'm arguing back, let's describe. Let's describe
Speaker 1: on Facebook. Yeah, but they're definitely gonna ba, so describe
Speaker 1: what happens. I wanted to hit you and says, then up, man,
Speaker 1: you know what, because look not everything, but when I
Speaker 1: the personal shape the person like a petty nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: a lot of petty nigger. But because I'm get petty,
Speaker 1: very petty, don't say they got hit from you. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I got to get paid beat petty.
Speaker 1: But you're not exactly petty. I'm so petty. I'm sold.
Speaker 1: So some I didn't went up there, and you know,
Speaker 1: it was like yo who It was like Yo, Benny
Speaker 1: really that nigga is and another nigga put up there.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, I really don't funk with that nigga.
Speaker 1: It was like it's conway for me and uh and
Speaker 1: uh and they say it's on your page. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: having an argument on your page and it's like it's comfy.
Speaker 1: He's like it was kind way for me and uh
Speaker 1: that nigga. Benny said something on the interview, but but
Speaker 1: it was something that was said but I didn't say it.
Speaker 1: But in my head's like it's personal because you you
Speaker 1: made up your mind that I said it. I didn't
Speaker 1: even say the ship. So I was like, yo, it's definition.
Speaker 1: I can't get petty. I can't get real petty. I
Speaker 1: can get petty. You know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 1: what they don't know that. That's what they don't like that.
Speaker 1: They don't like that, like damn, like nigga YouTube, ain't
Speaker 1: you Ain't you too busy to hit me back? No
Speaker 1: one not. I might be on my way to a
Speaker 1: million dollar meeting, but I'm petty on the way. Leave
Speaker 1: me the along I got and I got one superhater.
Speaker 1: They canna make an account for me every month and
Speaker 1: I know it because he dys lest it like me.
Speaker 1: So I can see the sing baby, and he'd always
Speaker 1: say something like that just happened on drink chance, Like
Speaker 1: it'll be like, yeah, so you didn't say that to
Speaker 1: at least your keys, And I'm like, like what I
Speaker 1: another but blocked him in. I feel like they keep
Speaker 1: flopping up and you know, like I gotta understand that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna understand that. But what I do, what I want?
Speaker 1: What's my ship is this this new year is to
Speaker 1: try to pay attention to more of the love than
Speaker 1: the hate. And I've been working on that. I'm not perfect.
Speaker 1: I've been working on that. Look what you just said.
Speaker 1: You said that one dude said Vinnie's and ship, and
Speaker 1: another dude answered and said, Benny's not the ship. It's
Speaker 1: not and you answered the nick of that, that's a fact.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's the first thing that y'all I
Speaker 1: say thank you sorry for And that was like, that
Speaker 1: was like, no, I don't feel sorry. I feel sorry
Speaker 1: for bullshit. What kind of luck do that? Like I said,
Speaker 1: only when they try to take personal shots at you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, but what we got going on.
Speaker 1: But if they don't know you personally, it's not personal.
Speaker 1: Let me just and they're trolling, they're trying to get
Speaker 1: you to answer back. You're giving them what they want.
Speaker 1: That's really Listen, I'm just being real. As we said
Speaker 1: with your buddy discussed this, I could get petty, so
Speaker 1: sometimes I might do that on purpose. Now you've got
Speaker 1: now you've got a hundred fans who riding with me,
Speaker 1: not even your asks, not on even gotta do nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm just being real, like its petty ship, get deep,
Speaker 1: like Kanye is the product petty snick mat He got
Speaker 1: me that Nigga called him Ski and made him he
Speaker 1: made play of Yo. Did you not see? That's what
Speaker 1: I said? Ye I was listening, said I'm like, I
Speaker 1: called another to that thing. I'm like, damn, he he
Speaker 1: got shot store like killing killing subs. Listen. I don't
Speaker 1: know who screenshot of this ship, but he had put
Speaker 1: up a post that Kanye is so powerful his every
Speaker 1: free comment with skick skickski stick sticks kicksikiki kick. I
Speaker 1: looked like, this is fucking I don't even know if
Speaker 1: I would abuse my power, just the fun the way
Speaker 1: we learned this. But then yeah, because he don't have
Speaker 1: to promote nothing, he could just say I'm there and
Speaker 1: then do you imagine how Pete Davison concert looks right now?
Speaker 1: What what he can just I remember fifty said I
Speaker 1: bought the first three rows of jar Rules show. Remember
Speaker 1: that was crazy. That was like ip to me. I
Speaker 1: was like him, I would you can't buy that many
Speaker 1: tickets that I've been trying to buy six tickets at
Speaker 1: a time. After this tough six tickets and cony, he
Speaker 1: could just say, let's go to Ski show. As soon
Speaker 1: as he grabbed the mic that his fans are loyal,
Speaker 1: real ship, they love they love you. I think I
Speaker 1: think the documentary brought him eating closer to you. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Did you see I didn't ye documentary
Speaker 1: because because me me, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: This ship to me is like moving poetry. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm I'm a real like another ship
Speaker 1: killed by the way, because because it had a sound
Speaker 1: like that, because I studied this whole ship. I didn't
Speaker 1: even I didn't even want to watch it off off
Speaker 1: the rip because I knew I was gonna be so
Speaker 1: inspired off of that ship already. One yes, I did
Speaker 1: then playing that music and no one was looking at him, nobody.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Real ship, real ship, And
Speaker 1: I can identify with ship like that, and I'm happy
Speaker 1: and I'm happy that it's out there for the people,
Speaker 1: for the young artists and entrepreneurs to see like that's
Speaker 1: part of the game, that's phase one of it, that's
Speaker 1: part of it, because a lot of times they don't
Speaker 1: think that's part of the ship, and that he stayed
Speaker 1: the same, he's the same person, part of me. Swear
Speaker 1: to Golf, I think it comes to my white both
Speaker 1: to the juice bar. It comes to the juice bar.
Speaker 1: He says, nor can you bring me back to the hotel?
Speaker 1: He asked me personally, so I said, of course. So
Speaker 1: we be driving. He plays his new ship for me.
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at him. It did not like it.
Speaker 1: He just kept bopping until I made I contact him
Speaker 1: to say he did him the documentary and then when
Speaker 1: my party made I'll come back. That's when you see
Speaker 1: the video where I'm like, I just think I want
Speaker 1: me to ball. He's still the same way. And I
Speaker 1: told him that, I said, yo, watching the documentary. Actually,
Speaker 1: uh maybe see I even appreciate you more. But not
Speaker 1: only that, because we all remember when people funding on us.
Speaker 1: We all remember that, you know what I'm saying, We alright,
Speaker 1: woman as an artist like business people and uh you know,
Speaker 1: you know, marketing department and retail, they could never know
Speaker 1: how it feels to go play a record that you
Speaker 1: know it's a hit and the person is just sitting
Speaker 1: down give a fuck. It's not a good fear that
Speaker 1: some of your best work about what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 1: so you put your heart into and they don't give
Speaker 1: a fun to fuss. I don't spit like versus and
Speaker 1: rooms where I made quiet and he's going to change
Speaker 1: the subject. You know what I'm saying, Like you know
Speaker 1: before all of that ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So but dude, I grab for real. I run them
Speaker 1: to every executive and people was like, his shirt is
Speaker 1: too tight. I was like, what anything? Only that was
Speaker 1: judging his appearance versus the music, and he had to
Speaker 1: he had to choke her hits. His change is very tight.
Speaker 1: It's true that I stopped, just stop. You can see
Speaker 1: a little bit of his I understand what they didn't
Speaker 1: the first, But I said, I looked at the music.
Speaker 1: The man looked at me and said, no one listens
Speaker 1: to me, but if you listen to me, you gonna
Speaker 1: have a number one record. And I just believe that
Speaker 1: that who make what made you believe? You stor what
Speaker 1: made you believe you know? Like his confidence. He's humble now,
Speaker 1: but he's he's front you see what with y'all? But
Speaker 1: I mean he's still cocky, but he just don't want
Speaker 1: to show it now because because he really got the
Speaker 1: bag now. But back then, my album was over in
Speaker 1: r E album signed still delivered I handed it to
Speaker 1: the record label. And if you actually listen to what
Speaker 1: do what what what what? People actually listen to it
Speaker 1: real good. Um, I say it in the in the ending,
Speaker 1: I go nr E Nori. The remix super Dog was
Speaker 1: never h super Dog. It was the remix to n
Speaker 1: O R E dam because the album was already closed.
Speaker 1: So he gave me we would see these old school
Speaker 1: so he could gave me. You got to laugh. You
Speaker 1: have let me get away with that one. But he uh,
Speaker 1: she played me two beats and then he said the derby.
Speaker 1: He said, don't listen to to get to Miami. And
Speaker 1: at that time I was like, what they go, I'm
Speaker 1: the man me. Don't listen to that ship you get
Speaker 1: to Miami. I had the number one recordar New York,
Speaker 1: no more work at this time in New York, number
Speaker 1: one in the world. Sorry, that's the ship people were
Speaker 1: talking about. I know. And I remember I got to
Speaker 1: Miami and and he was at the kid Hotel. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a foul hotel. And then Shorty started coming at
Speaker 1: me and then I realized like chicks and she was like,
Speaker 1: oh you want to party? I said, oh, see your hooker.
Speaker 1: So I in upstairs and I put the sheet in
Speaker 1: the first time I ever heard they said, man, well
Speaker 1: Mariega in the Philippines. And I knew he was a
Speaker 1: genius from that moment because I wrote that whole ship
Speaker 1: like that, and I laid the whole ship at one track.
Speaker 1: That's crazy that that that's one track. That's not there's
Speaker 1: no punches. Your young niggers don't know about that. No,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. No, that's one track. And then and then that,
Speaker 1: and that was y'all And that was your first ship.
Speaker 1: That was our first ship. And even the hook was
Speaker 1: the hook. That's how I count bars. What what what what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: What to what what what? Mixed the record and I
Speaker 1: was like, we can't use that for a hook. They're
Speaker 1: gonna laugh at me. He said, you're gonna laugh on
Speaker 1: the way to the bank. He was right. That's why
Speaker 1: you again, one of them geniuses. I never got to
Speaker 1: work with You got to. You got to work with
Speaker 1: him and got the drake before known. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: you got to, you got That's what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 1: Like that depth jam ship said, I'm asking them to connect.
Speaker 1: That's what you want from them. That's what you connect
Speaker 1: the stuff. Yeah, take my ship to the next level.
Speaker 1: What I mean, because I take that ship serious. You
Speaker 1: gotta think that we representing the whole the whole region,
Speaker 1: a whole different genre ship. This ship responsible for a
Speaker 1: whole lot of other niggas putting their ship on it
Speaker 1: doing what they need to do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I take this ship serious. So, like I asked
Speaker 1: you earlier, I said, like, would you make a commercial record?
Speaker 1: Because that's probably like when it comes to real spitters
Speaker 1: and real streets, that's what that's what they say about
Speaker 1: all of us. Like, yo, so where's the hits? But
Speaker 1: hold up, But did you think when you were making
Speaker 1: super though you were making a commercial record? Because I
Speaker 1: think you gotta be careful saying that make a commercial record.
Speaker 1: I don't think he should make a commercial record going
Speaker 1: into the booth, I'm gonna make this commercial record, you
Speaker 1: know what. That's how you don't make records going in
Speaker 1: and do it like that. But you know, but I
Speaker 1: think that different because you you you the land with
Speaker 1: different producers and they playing and how was it for you?
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, because that was a good question, Like
Speaker 1: did you feel like he was making a commercial record
Speaker 1: was super dark. You know, it's the crazy ship and
Speaker 1: I know you know this story, this is real talk,
Speaker 1: you know what they said. And super Ti first came
Speaker 1: about that's too dark because one they didn't know for real.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, they thought he was a
Speaker 1: gamester because they had to hit him speaking. But like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, this thing ain't gonna hurt the popefly, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that. But like, but but then
Speaker 1: my image was so dark. So if you look at
Speaker 1: the video, we have no dark time cs. We all daytime.
Speaker 1: So we food the commercial radio to embrace it. But
Speaker 1: at first people who said that was a dark record.
Speaker 1: But what region accepted at first b d S spens
Speaker 1: on radio. Remember the way that we took it in
Speaker 1: miamis we wasn't here in New York artists on that tempo.
Speaker 1: It was what attracted us to it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is what we want, you know, we love these artists.
Speaker 1: And then they're doing now records that the beats we
Speaker 1: can we can relate to these beats. And that's that's
Speaker 1: why you're absolutely right, because I ordered it wrong when
Speaker 1: I said I commerce your record. But what it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: Is you want you want? You know, what's a better word?
Speaker 1: I asked them record right, So it's like this this,
Speaker 1: this is my opinion on that ship. Like like when
Speaker 1: you come from the underground like me, like Griselda, do right,
Speaker 1: and then you uh, you get you even getting near
Speaker 1: that line where you're thinking about crossing over, the fans
Speaker 1: gonna bury you over. They don't like that ship cross
Speaker 1: over without crossing over. No, no, no, not real ship though,
Speaker 1: And that's possible. I think about it. Is when when
Speaker 1: when you come from when you come from the industry
Speaker 1: and get on some underground ship, is it's regular? But
Speaker 1: in my opinion, are the top niggas Are all all
Speaker 1: the people you considered top rappers and niggas who who
Speaker 1: are available for the throne currently or whatever always did both?
Speaker 1: For what I'm saying, So the same people who sit
Speaker 1: and complaining about the ship, they're gonna listen to it too,
Speaker 1: you know, say the top guys always did both, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. No, I haven be some moist
Speaker 1: of that. That is really okay. I got more notes thinking,
Speaker 1: come on, let's go, baby, but don't go into making now.
Speaker 1: I'm not going in there. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: doing no ship but the Island Boys and no crazy
Speaker 1: show niggers. It's hard by Yeah, I said, touring, How
Speaker 1: did it? How did the book? All these independent shows?
Speaker 1: People can't sell what does not? And you are not streaming?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I think. I think like basically, how you
Speaker 1: know on some independent how the independent hustle come from you.
Speaker 1: I'm selling out the shows obviously because because the independent
Speaker 1: the fans, the underground hip hop fans, you know, you
Speaker 1: know how they go. They they die high, die hard,
Speaker 1: and they know about everything you got to sell them in.
Speaker 1: Their opinion matters the group, that group of people, opinion matters,
Speaker 1: So they come out the shows, they spend money, they
Speaker 1: like doing that foundation exactly. You know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: And the dudes with the dirty sneakers, yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know we we imagine what you think about these
Speaker 1: sayings joins. Are the dirty sneakers that are buying the
Speaker 1: ticket though, and buying the merch they obviously not spending
Speaker 1: it on the sneaker there, And we know and I
Speaker 1: don't got no plaquein or nothing. Yeah, I'm working, That's
Speaker 1: what I want to I'm giving me a plaque foon
Speaker 1: like that. But you know what I mean, like, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm selling out the venues the niggers with plaques. The
Speaker 1: type of ship, That's what I'm saying. Consider this the
Speaker 1: first plaque right here. I'm gonna put on type of
Speaker 1: ship there and those last forever nice. Oh oh no, no,
Speaker 1: no no what he was saying with the head drop,
Speaker 1: but well he blew up. So Michael Jackson called the
Speaker 1: nigga like, you know, I want to work with you.
Speaker 1: Uh told the story, by the way, this is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite stories. That said that story. And he goes,
Speaker 1: so he says, Michael Jackson a whole bunch of billy
Speaker 1: ge tape of Phield and Michael said, nigger, I want
Speaker 1: to I want to do with Noriega with Rome two,
Speaker 1: one of my best stories that michaels like, man, holy,
Speaker 1: So look, let's let's just be cleard. What's going on? Backwoodswords, Buffaloto.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, buffal lot. I didn't even
Speaker 1: eat that buffaloo. We got your ship everywhere I'm wanting
Speaker 1: and then get mad at me when I say this,
Speaker 1: I smoked the best out of a lot of rappers.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I smoked the best. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I smoked the most, but I smoked the best.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, shout out the rapper's first choice, uh,
Speaker 1: Smoker's Club, pack Woods. I'm aligned with all these marijuana
Speaker 1: companies because I smoked the best. Think you're mad at
Speaker 1: me when I say that. I don't know why. So
Speaker 1: how about Cookies and Burner? Yeah, I funk with Burner.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I mean I'll fun with Burners. Everybody
Speaker 1: that's like a that's like a badge on what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that. That's what I'm saying. For chance, we got Tyson.
Speaker 1: Tyson's working for freedoms. In fact, I ain't telling Tyson
Speaker 1: thought of the types of said we want you shoot
Speaker 1: on the show. He was like, genius, you see that
Speaker 1: piece missing out of building. Now you want to give him?
Speaker 1: I can't be only when I want Jesus really do
Speaker 1: live next to me? Um? You and Emery m hm?
Speaker 1: How does the relationship start? Is this in the can
Speaker 1: man in jail like Emory. Emory was in the same
Speaker 1: spot I was in right, and everybody knew he was
Speaker 1: holding man. I mean, like, like you know, because it's
Speaker 1: almost was a rumor that he took whole case. That
Speaker 1: was always like the rumor. No one knows this is true,
Speaker 1: ain't But did you ever know that part? Hell no,
Speaker 1: I never knew that part. Yeah, the rumor is whatever
Speaker 1: he got caught with he was on his way to
Speaker 1: see Whole, or hold was on his way to see him.
Speaker 1: Whatever he got caught when he took, he took the
Speaker 1: blame for everything Emory. Emory is solid nigger. Like I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean, who told me some stories?
Speaker 1: Ain't telling me that I'm the rung I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be I'm gonna be honest with you. Whole told me
Speaker 1: some stories. You know what I'm saying. Some ships I
Speaker 1: I can't share them ships not we need to keep
Speaker 1: that relationship. And now that's a fact. But but that's
Speaker 1: what I'm just saying. That is like nobody. I wasn't
Speaker 1: one of the niggas who was gonna bother Emory. I
Speaker 1: was the nicest thing in that jail rapping and me
Speaker 1: and my niggas, we was doing the most craziest ship things.
Speaker 1: It was. It was it was at a it was
Speaker 1: at a federal camp. He was leaving a camp doing
Speaker 1: ship coming back, weeding all type of ships. So we
Speaker 1: was hopping there. Really it's not like real ship. So
Speaker 1: it was finger popping ship when you got, when I
Speaker 1: fingerpopping when I left and I got, I was getting
Speaker 1: with ship. She said, I left ship. That's a fact.
Speaker 1: Like this this story. Now that's a fact. Like when
Speaker 1: I when I was at uh when I was in
Speaker 1: Atlanta USP, it's like a it's like a it's like
Speaker 1: a hold over until you designated to go to your spot.
Speaker 1: And I had like a year left, so I was
Speaker 1: only going to a camp. But the nigger was telling
Speaker 1: me that. He was telling me, like, Yo, I was
Speaker 1: at the land. I left, I went to the mall,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he went to the fucking mall. I'm
Speaker 1: like this nigga lying. Nigga Hill told me he went
Speaker 1: to more I swear to God is when he told
Speaker 1: and told he told me that, you told me that.
Speaker 1: And then when I got to where I got, I
Speaker 1: understood that she was loose as a motherfucker. But this
Speaker 1: is a hookup. You've gotta pay the guards or the
Speaker 1: guards just turned. You know, you gotta hop the fence down.
Speaker 1: So they got to the chatship the ship some yo,
Speaker 1: this ship like some James Bond second ship, because they
Speaker 1: do the count. They do the count right and when
Speaker 1: they did the count, they gotta walk past because it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a medium jail right next to it,
Speaker 1: so they just sort of, uh, the guards from the
Speaker 1: medium jail come over to do the count. So's nobody
Speaker 1: watching the perimeter right after they do the count, like
Speaker 1: there's some there's some real sophisticated ship right now to time.
Speaker 1: Its real ship. You gotta through the gate, the blanket
Speaker 1: over the barbed wire, like I'm not thinking too much. No,
Speaker 1: you ain't thinking too much because it is watching this.
Speaker 1: It's real ship. So nigga, After the guards walked past
Speaker 1: me and my celly, I wish my Shelly he'd tell
Speaker 1: he was with me. I was with him. Actually, your
Speaker 1: motherfucking I'm when when a guy walked by the count,
Speaker 1: I'm reading my Bible under my cover like I'm sleep.
Speaker 1: It's real ship. When he walked past, I flipped the
Speaker 1: cover off. I'm fully dressed. I don't boost but leave
Speaker 1: out the back door. Yes, it was a tall gate.
Speaker 1: You gotta go through the gate like real ship. You
Speaker 1: gotta go through some water, barbed wire. It was like
Speaker 1: a navy, like an army, like BASI was like tanks
Speaker 1: the ship in the next yard over like real ship.
Speaker 1: You know, this is some of the craziest shot I
Speaker 1: ever did in my life. I don't know why I
Speaker 1: even did this ship. Ninety days left. When I did
Speaker 1: this ship, you might have to face seven years if
Speaker 1: you gotta got caught. But it's like this. My celly
Speaker 1: was doing it, and he was doing it every week.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he was doing it every day. It was that easy.
Speaker 1: I called him right now, my nigga saying man, but
Speaker 1: it was like that she was crazy. But anyway, I
Speaker 1: said all I just say that Emery was in that jail,
Speaker 1: so we was hot as a bit had jail and
Speaker 1: I was I wrapped in that jail a couple of times,
Speaker 1: so I know my name was popping around the ship
Speaker 1: and he who he was. I never bothered him in
Speaker 1: that jail. I didn't want to because I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm like, like not like a thick riding there for
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But when he linked up with West,
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, you know what I mean, I
Speaker 1: know him, what I'm saying, So then we kicked it.
Speaker 1: And you know, like when you're staying on the other
Speaker 1: side of that wall with niggas who you've been in
Speaker 1: there with, you both looking good, both of good situations.
Speaker 1: That's like a brotherhood. That what I'm saying, no matter what.
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, Pol was like my real brother.
Speaker 1: We we knew each other on the street, but we
Speaker 1: met in jail. And it's nothing I wouldn't do for Capol,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'm for sure there's ship
Speaker 1: that he want to do for me. But you know
Speaker 1: it's a little crazy, but that's my bro. That's my bro.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we met in the camp. So hold on,
Speaker 1: let me get to the notes. You got something because
Speaker 1: I got Yeah, I got for inside the sauce. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Come on, who in Buffalo was
Speaker 1: was doing something similar like y'all, or anybody was in
Speaker 1: Spine y'all on a local level? Hell yeah, like like
Speaker 1: DJ She always talking about DJ Shade like we've We've
Speaker 1: been with Shape four minutes since I was nineteen. But
Speaker 1: even before that, growing up, he used to fun with
Speaker 1: niggas other niggas and we was like we was like
Speaker 1: on some underground Buffalo ship because niggas he was getting
Speaker 1: played on the radio. The nigger who was doing the videos,
Speaker 1: We wasn't part of them. Nigg's like T Brown, It's
Speaker 1: like who trills? Uh? Nigga's like, uh, a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of nigger who else? Who the fund come use from?
Speaker 1: Again they're gonna be mad at head name niggas. This
Speaker 1: this got a shot about man? Who the funk else? Uh?
Speaker 1: I'm damn. I can't think D Black was doing ship
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. So when we got with Shade, she was
Speaker 1: like she was like the top nigga and Buffalo to
Speaker 1: get with. You know what I'm saying. Something we got
Speaker 1: with Shade that just shopping anybody ship. Then it had
Speaker 1: the studio every day. She was the first niggah who
Speaker 1: wasn't a drug dealer or street nigga who who I respect.
Speaker 1: It was like, Okay, he cool and know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He still had this little polo shirts, had weed all
Speaker 1: the time, had bitches and ship like that. I liked
Speaker 1: that that shift. I looked up to him. He's the
Speaker 1: first thing I looked up to who like wasn't like
Speaker 1: a type of street nigga type of person. There was
Speaker 1: nothing ever, like in terms of cross border because y'all
Speaker 1: right there, no, no, he he did what he did,
Speaker 1: but he but y'all like like in terms of Buffalo
Speaker 1: sound and seen, did it ever cross over to the
Speaker 1: border side like the Canadian side. Oh no, no, they
Speaker 1: never did it. But but what we do, it's something.
Speaker 1: It's it's definitely some type of kinship towards Toronto because
Speaker 1: our radio station, they is one of their radio stations.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like uh cart now
Speaker 1: official exactly I'm saying, uh even even even Drake, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like that ship on that Quiet
Speaker 1: Storm ship, that ship that he used that voice to
Speaker 1: do talking to the quiet Stone that was from like
Speaker 1: the Buffalo radio station. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: that's why you said he shout ou out of Buffalo
Speaker 1: on that ship. What I'm saying, No, your name used
Speaker 1: to be too chained, Benny Man, Yeah, hell yeah. Really
Speaker 1: do you think to the boy bitch ship? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think broke bit my ship,
Speaker 1: but you thought, you know it, I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't already established the penny. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think broke bit my ship. I think Greg might stinking. Like,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I'm I'm keeping the real
Speaker 1: because I like that, because Changes is a very creative
Speaker 1: and he was the one. He was one of the
Speaker 1: first Niggers that embraced me and this ship and that
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, real ship told him that that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Actually I didn't my boy cling that
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But listen, though my name was to
Speaker 1: Chaine Benny Man, but I was doing I was on
Speaker 1: my way to jail to her after he had after
Speaker 1: obviously after he had left from Thinkin, after he had
Speaker 1: left with Ludicrous or whatever. Like I heard a song
Speaker 1: called I'm Ryan Round and I'm riding around and when
Speaker 1: I heard that ship, and it was like to change,
Speaker 1: and it was to change, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I knew it was it was titty boy. But
Speaker 1: I was on my way to jail and I wasn't
Speaker 1: doing ship, and I knew and that was really my name,
Speaker 1: and I knew, like when I came back, I'm like
Speaker 1: that ain't would be my name, like real ship. When
Speaker 1: I came back, it was on fire and niggas was
Speaker 1: playing that song. But they don't know, like I already
Speaker 1: knew what was going on. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And it was it's a name he took over. You know,
Speaker 1: that's still my name. I'm like, I'm like four change
Speaker 1: many people still people still call me that, but that
Speaker 1: nigga like twenty change titty boy now. But you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I funk with Bro. He embraced me.
Speaker 1: But my boy did tell him that because that was
Speaker 1: a you know, i'd be a big thing. You know.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's petty, like yo, he took your he took your name.
Speaker 1: You know, people think people think you anybody stole shipped
Speaker 1: from him. You know I'm saying, people tell me I
Speaker 1: stole ship from like nigga. No, you heard my ship
Speaker 1: and nigga then you took it. Oh yeah, you're fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: You think you think I was paying attention to that ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, real ship, y'all need to
Speaker 1: attract to to to change. No, No, we got some ship,
Speaker 1: a real ship. That's fine. Let's make some noise for that.
Speaker 1: You're already talking about DJ shay Right, who wrote is
Speaker 1: armand I'm we're keeping the shing murder beats like couch
Speaker 1: and you're like murder beats. They say something about murder
Speaker 1: like he going back to like that the Buffalok torontod Ship,
Speaker 1: like niggas niggas been new bro and what I'm saying
Speaker 1: big hits. Yeah, I met murder beats. I called. I
Speaker 1: called him with Jack Hallow a word. Damn. You can
Speaker 1: tell you about old school nigga. Though you probably think
Speaker 1: abably thinking this, niggah, you might be like New York niggas.
Speaker 1: Tell I was really like what I had and I
Speaker 1: thought I knailed it. Sorry I thought, but but he
Speaker 1: from Toronto. But nigga has been to him on his
Speaker 1: come up. You know what I'm saying that he took
Speaker 1: off he said. I mean, he didn't hit me the
Speaker 1: other day. You know what you're doing. So it's like
Speaker 1: so he I'm not saying that we ever even exactly.
Speaker 1: He's crazy, he's great. I'm not saying that he ever
Speaker 1: spoke about it. I'm not saying that Drake ever spoke
Speaker 1: about it. I'm not saying that even Grazila. I'm speaking
Speaker 1: about it right now, Like I know, niggas like it's
Speaker 1: it's some type of kinship, like you know, they know
Speaker 1: what I mean because you know, like you know, niggas
Speaker 1: be trying to call us South Canada. You know you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, but that you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But what I do is we we represent what we're from.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is it's never you got
Speaker 1: to be proud of with you from say it's real
Speaker 1: niggas from everywhere that say. And at one point Buffalo
Speaker 1: was like like the lowest economy right like it was like,
Speaker 1: so you know anywhere with his little economy, that's where
Speaker 1: the most crime it's going it's gonna happen. It's treacherous upstate.
Speaker 1: It's treacherous like the treachers I've been up there during
Speaker 1: with with all that the weather fucked up. So is
Speaker 1: that type of environment like people say, you if you
Speaker 1: could really make it out out of there, you could
Speaker 1: make it out of any motherfucker. Like what I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a it's just you know, just there's all the
Speaker 1: all the odds against you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of times people people
Speaker 1: forget that you know our age and how we came
Speaker 1: in and ship, you know what I mean, Like that
Speaker 1: was a blessing that they again signed to uh to
Speaker 1: shady them niggas like that nigga West didn't tell me
Speaker 1: until two murder beats. No, no, no, I'm just sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about like the group that Look, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, it's like when that Grisseldin she came from
Speaker 1: that ship. That ship is crazy that she came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, what I'm saying. So that's why I know,
Speaker 1: that's another reason why that should get praised. And I'm
Speaker 1: saying how we do because they just respect that. They
Speaker 1: understand that. But you ever you ever thought because like
Speaker 1: like like we all related to at one point, like
Speaker 1: York was hard on New York, so be hard on
Speaker 1: New York, even harder on Long Island. We are hard
Speaker 1: exactly exactly on even like sat is a girl right
Speaker 1: right around y'all were harding Jersey, Jersey on you know,
Speaker 1: maybe even treading on New Work or whatever. What up?
Speaker 1: You ever thought that all of this ship you've been through,
Speaker 1: like people is respecting the city that people want y'all
Speaker 1: to win, Like that's that's respecting y'all whole city. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I didn't ever think. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I didn't ever think. But just to see it is love.
Speaker 1: My boy. Somebody who I was, who I was locked
Speaker 1: up with, just hit me the other day from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, all, I Harris Tanning to talk
Speaker 1: for right now. He's like, you know you got New
Speaker 1: York City on till right now. What I'm saying, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's love, that's loving. They stand behind this ship because
Speaker 1: it's it's it's that cloth, it's what we do. So
Speaker 1: they're standing behind that ship. Like you said, this should
Speaker 1: make us proud. I mean, this is get niggas back.
Speaker 1: This is making niggas want to get back doing this
Speaker 1: shitt again. But we could, we could do our ship
Speaker 1: again and you paid, let's go, let's do our shoot again.
Speaker 1: It'd be probably you brother, just because you know, take
Speaker 1: a little she probably the whole movie. You can't understand.
Speaker 1: You're probably the whole motherfucking move real ship. Oh shoot,
Speaker 1: let's le's hit caring out. You mus don't have an
Speaker 1: iPhone because I went at him. Saw it's canny. You know,
Speaker 1: extra rates may apply. You know what I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: just hit me and they got here that gonna pick up.
Speaker 1: You know, it's to put you right there. Yo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I spoke you up. I spoke you up, I spoke
Speaker 1: your name and then you and you hit broke ship.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, you know that, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yo,
Speaker 1: you know if people need to know in Toronto, we
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean in Toronto is right there. Bro.
Speaker 1: He just he just now said that. He just now
Speaker 1: my nigga we go when we grew up on w
Speaker 1: B Okay, I mean, you know, my first concert ever,
Speaker 1: so I just said that my first big stadium concert
Speaker 1: was in Buffalo. I went to see mc hammer and
Speaker 1: Vanilla Ice back like when I was a little kid,
Speaker 1: and that's all he saw that. I like your floors.
Speaker 1: Let me make you known to mena finish this something
Speaker 1: hit you back. I got you, got you from the drop.
Speaker 1: I got you, my bro. That's how you know the
Speaker 1: other you know, like sometimes it's man, that's crazy, right,
Speaker 1: he said that ship. So let me let me ask
Speaker 1: you switch it up the subject a little bit. I
Speaker 1: think this is the first thing I met you as well,
Speaker 1: maybe we met before, but the same thing you met DMX.
Speaker 1: We linked up right. I believe I hit you and
Speaker 1: I say you'll come through. I want you to I
Speaker 1: want to introduce you to ask. But one thing that
Speaker 1: was just known was he was on crutches. He was
Speaker 1: moving different. It kind of felt like he was being cautious.
Speaker 1: But you had just got going through whatever happened in Houston.
Speaker 1: So how was that experience? Because was that, uh, was
Speaker 1: that a deliberate these guys was deliberately after you? Or
Speaker 1: they was after random people and I heard I heard
Speaker 1: they found out who it was or something. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was at the random people. They was at the random people.
Speaker 1: Can't you know what I'm saying, Like I was moving,
Speaker 1: I was cautious after that, like I still him now
Speaker 1: because I knew the mistakes that I made that day.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Just just simple ship like
Speaker 1: that when you to Walmart or something. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that mistake was. The mistake was being where I was
Speaker 1: too long. What I'm saying, so ship like that, I'm
Speaker 1: learning and that that was a mistake. But also just
Speaker 1: as just as that me realizing not realizing Hawaiian. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that ship like that because what
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time like don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, you will come with this ship, you
Speaker 1: know what. I don't know, man, you know niggas tell you.
Speaker 1: But that's something that I'm realizing to myself, like I'm
Speaker 1: understanding now, trust it. But even at that point, I
Speaker 1: didn't know Burtner Proof had just dropped. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I didn't feel like I was doing nothing.
Speaker 1: That's like making simulate. Why then you're going to Walmart.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I can't go to Walmart. I think
Speaker 1: just guys said that I'm a project baby. I can't
Speaker 1: nig can't go to Walmart. And I realized, like, damn,
Speaker 1: you sometimes like life like that. You can't go to Walmart.
Speaker 1: Sitting the homies, get the T shirt and draw. I
Speaker 1: go to Target now. Talking might not be safer, sir
Speaker 1: to Target. Yeah, sitting the homies to Target now, you
Speaker 1: can still go. You just gotta move a certain way,
Speaker 1: you know. You know, I learned. I learned that. I
Speaker 1: learned a lot from that, and I'm I wanted I'm
Speaker 1: one of the niggers. I take a lesson out at everything.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a it's a lot of niggas who
Speaker 1: are not here right now. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know it's true. Booty got shot that week and
Speaker 1: moved three. Yeah, that was a crazy girl came von.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The ship happened to me.
Speaker 1: That was that was all in the you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know what I mean. It's like, damn,
Speaker 1: you gotta you definitely gotta you, gotta watch you gotta
Speaker 1: watch yourself, and rappers gotta take care of themselves. And
Speaker 1: I learned so much from that ship. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie because I've been there. I've been in the streets
Speaker 1: doing everything my whole life, and I never happened. Do
Speaker 1: you think rapping is a dangerous job? He'll because we
Speaker 1: don't know our enemy. We don't. And the same thing
Speaker 1: is our enemies. Our enemies be the same things in
Speaker 1: our face smiling. So that's the worst enemy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is the dude that seafood y'all are
Speaker 1: sit in your face and saying, y'all you the ship.
Speaker 1: As soon as you turn around, they want to stab you.
Speaker 1: The fact, that's the world. What the crazy ship is?
Speaker 1: We gotta come outside. We got to and we gotta
Speaker 1: post where we're gonna be at. That's the word right
Speaker 1: here the time. When I post a restaurant, I posted it.
Speaker 1: Next step, that's what I do too. I record my ship.
Speaker 1: I don't go live to my ship. I just recorded
Speaker 1: on my phone and then I post that ship is crazy.
Speaker 1: But all that had to be learned, Like people wasn't
Speaker 1: doing that in the beginning. It was posting in real time,
Speaker 1: and I think if that was a learned behavior, now,
Speaker 1: who was this? Someone says something to somebody and they
Speaker 1: stepped him while it was at the mall. I think
Speaker 1: it was like at love or it wasn't main it
Speaker 1: was main. I think someone said some boost about may no,
Speaker 1: filmed it and then posted it and they don't turned
Speaker 1: and followed them, like okay, what did you just say?
Speaker 1: And then that that was like okay, you know what.
Speaker 1: We can't really post in real time now, But isn't
Speaker 1: that fucking ironic? We make it out the hood and
Speaker 1: the hood fither was us? And we just crazy? Dn
Speaker 1: Max told me something that was so beautiful. He said,
Speaker 1: I don't call rappers rack no more. And I said
Speaker 1: why He said, because every rapper that gets on he
Speaker 1: employs at least eight to sixteen people, and I was
Speaker 1: just like wow. He said that in our first episode.
Speaker 1: So I was like wow. So when you look at that,
Speaker 1: how the funk are we getting more successful putting people
Speaker 1: on and still running into, maybe sometimes even worse than
Speaker 1: the hood problems like this? How how do you see this?
Speaker 1: I mean, people, rappers, people value them too high in
Speaker 1: my opinion. You know what I'm saying, people think too
Speaker 1: highly of rappers. I'm just being real, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we're great people like me. I'm not
Speaker 1: a dumb nigger. I'm smart. I've always been, always been
Speaker 1: a smart kid, right grade, a student. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm not a sliding ball. Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm a loyal nigger. I'm a respectful nigger. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But and I got daughters. I take
Speaker 1: care of my kids. What I'm saying, take care of
Speaker 1: my team. But at the same time, you know, like
Speaker 1: I got three felonies, man like, don't don't. I'm an example,
Speaker 1: not a role model. We're just speaking about that. Niggas
Speaker 1: always Niggers always want to be Niggers always want to
Speaker 1: be better than a rapper. Niggas always niggas be feeling
Speaker 1: niggas be feeling like press when rappers come around rappers.
Speaker 1: This rappers that rappers is so, you know, niggas, niggas
Speaker 1: love us, but they hate us. They love us, but
Speaker 1: they hate us. And they'd be like, man, you know,
Speaker 1: the niggas be like, oh man, you niggas be saying
Speaker 1: ship like you're a rap nigger? What you what you
Speaker 1: mean by that? You mean, like, I'm you know what
Speaker 1: I mean with you? You're trying to discredit me from
Speaker 1: being who I am. I mean, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: understand that. You know what I mean. But they value
Speaker 1: rappers too much. You know what I'm saying. They need
Speaker 1: to be better than They need to be better than
Speaker 1: the community leaders. You know what I'm saying, Like not
Speaker 1: even don't know, crazy political ship, but that ship is
Speaker 1: getting out of hand. Know they niggas want to be
Speaker 1: in rappers faces and ship. This ship is out of
Speaker 1: This ship is out of control. I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying. The male grouping ship
Speaker 1: is going too far. Oh no, it's jury serious. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. This And it's just that, like god,
Speaker 1: damn you know what I mean. It's like do your
Speaker 1: own ship. You don't even need niggers to being you
Speaker 1: like that. So it's something I noticed about you immediately,
Speaker 1: is you roll like how I roll. Got all the
Speaker 1: hovis with you, and you know why that's safe. Let
Speaker 1: me just tell you why that safe? Because you don't
Speaker 1: need no outsiders. No, I don't know if you understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, a lot of people to this day
Speaker 1: will be like, damn right, you still roll this deep
Speaker 1: because I because I got my whole community, I got
Speaker 1: the whole PJS with me. I don't gotta go to
Speaker 1: another PJS. You know what I'm saying, Like me knows
Speaker 1: are like all my people people like we just came
Speaker 1: back later, how many it was? Was it my right
Speaker 1: hand man's lights as the carrious's garden? We gotta make
Speaker 1: some more. What I'm saying, like my statement there right there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So like that's another thing
Speaker 1: that you gotta you gotta keep them niggas around you
Speaker 1: that that keep you grounded, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: not even not even like I don't even got my
Speaker 1: niggas with me on no tough guy ship. But they
Speaker 1: like that. But it is he's just my real friends.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. My boy, My boy, Buffy
Speaker 1: just came home from doing thirteen joints. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. My nigga, My nigga, Mom, he just came
Speaker 1: home from doing nineteen. You know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's people. Even though people see our
Speaker 1: money with us, now, I might have been with us,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I might even from DJ
Speaker 1: Shade from like from the like two thousand nine and
Speaker 1: two thousand eight ships like that, she was around real ship.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. And at thirty eight when I was twenty
Speaker 1: two years over from thirty seven, Like these are these
Speaker 1: all my same thing? Yeah, that's beautiful. That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Oh, even like like I said, even
Speaker 1: just me with with with Jay the other day he
Speaker 1: said that to me, said I like, I like how
Speaker 1: you got your people in around because he he understood
Speaker 1: our energy. You understood Like listen, my nigga, like I
Speaker 1: kind of I kind of need them, I kind of
Speaker 1: need you to show them that I'm a boss ship.
Speaker 1: I have a boss and that you respect me. And
Speaker 1: he called it. He was like yeah, but he also
Speaker 1: gave me that. He said, you know what, that's why
Speaker 1: I got every hair, got top tight hair. I got
Speaker 1: such a such hair because we don't want to mingle
Speaker 1: with other niggas. We just want to be with our
Speaker 1: real ship. And that's what I knew that very moment.
Speaker 1: I'm doing the right thing. So so so most people
Speaker 1: want to know and be like, damn many you want
Speaker 1: with bad people. I'm in the exact opposite. I'm saying
Speaker 1: you're doing the right thing because you ain't gotta do
Speaker 1: no dumb ship. You ain't gonna come around. You ain't
Speaker 1: gotta In fact, you should stay away from it all
Speaker 1: because you are actually that guy. And like what you
Speaker 1: just said was very touching to me. Uh you said
Speaker 1: you didn't know who you were at the time in Houston.
Speaker 1: That's what we all suffered. Because I'm a regular Ninka.
Speaker 1: Like barbecue, You're gonna take your pass off and Pete
Speaker 1: the same way. Pe. You're gonna do what we are
Speaker 1: a regular name. That's why I say the money changed
Speaker 1: people around you, cooking in the change. That's what you're saying.
Speaker 1: You know it's very true, but don't understand that. People
Speaker 1: people quick this like, I mean you're different, or you
Speaker 1: can't wait to say I'm different, But I'm really the
Speaker 1: same nigger. You're different. You expect different things from me
Speaker 1: because of my situation. But I'm really the same person
Speaker 1: I've always been, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: real ship, man, that's real ship. I mean, that's real ship.
Speaker 1: Let's make exactly many good times. I'm taking a shot
Speaker 1: for that. I'm sorry I'm doing. I don't take You're cool.
Speaker 1: We are come. You take a shot, and we take
Speaker 1: a shot to come back because I ain't gonna lie. Bro.
Speaker 1: The sit that y'are doing, the ship that you're represent
Speaker 1: ain't been this authentic in years because they try to
Speaker 1: act like this type of music wasn't a factor. Yes,
Speaker 1: and when the game went to where it went to listen,
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something, so a little go ahead,
Speaker 1: God bless, because I want to tell you what I
Speaker 1: went through for you. Every One says the War Report
Speaker 1: is a classic. Now I think I went through it
Speaker 1: when the War Report dropped, And ironically, I'm getting a
Speaker 1: lot of money with this bad get a lot of
Speaker 1: monements he love well. Mr Shiny Suits were dominating the
Speaker 1: year the war report I'm talking about, we were overshadow
Speaker 1: and at times I thought, man, I should maybe I
Speaker 1: should make a sunshine know what I'm saying, Maybe I
Speaker 1: should go look, you know, man, because of them that
Speaker 1: not only killing it particularly overshadowing us, overshadowing in the
Speaker 1: mab deeps overshadowing. I don't know if you remember. That's
Speaker 1: why Paul actually came to Queensbridge to get into a
Speaker 1: Mob Deep video. I don't know if you'll remember that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll remember that. Paul had to
Speaker 1: do that because he was out shadowing street music so
Speaker 1: much that he looked like the enemy, and he didn't
Speaker 1: want to be the enemy. So he came and he
Speaker 1: reached out to things like me. He reached out to
Speaker 1: Morrow Deep. He reached out. But at one point, this
Speaker 1: ship wasn't cool for real, this ship wasn't cool. But
Speaker 1: it was like it was like versus this, this versus that.
Speaker 1: Like everyone says the war was a classic. They say
Speaker 1: that now I live do that these thinks did that
Speaker 1: come out of my first week? They say it then
Speaker 1: they didn't say it then, like and I don't know.
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to tell you is they had to
Speaker 1: catch up to this ship. So for the people to
Speaker 1: be owned to y'all, right until like this is a
Speaker 1: lesser this is you know what the locks been through.
Speaker 1: The Boue Tang has been through. With mar that's been
Speaker 1: through because if you look at Wou Tang, you look
Speaker 1: at all those albums in the Marvel and all that
Speaker 1: besides Nis, besides Knives. Now, I was probably the only
Speaker 1: one who like a big first week back then. And
Speaker 1: DMX DMX is a different antibam. He sold like a
Speaker 1: rocket roll off. He was a different anam everybody over.
Speaker 1: Tell y'all he hadn't hire to everybody had to hire.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. So for a thinking
Speaker 1: like me to see y'all and to see you that
Speaker 1: y'all can shine all together, y'all can shine separately, and
Speaker 1: y'all all got your own fans to tell you the truth,
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful fucking thing. That the beautiful thing. And
Speaker 1: I think niggas realized that so like it would never be.
Speaker 1: It would never be a point where Nigga is not
Speaker 1: calling each other phones or pulling up on each other
Speaker 1: or not working together, funk all of this. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It never gets to that point. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Of course, you're gonna make sure
Speaker 1: you keep that attitude because the further the further you go,
Speaker 1: it's not the more that you're gonna say fun the
Speaker 1: next nigger. The further further you go, you start doing
Speaker 1: you and you when you when you would do with you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta remember that's why. That's why I wanted
Speaker 1: to give you that four ticket wing fire rights right right, right,
Speaker 1: right right. It's because we by the way, the other
Speaker 1: four ticket and fire rights. It's simple. We would have
Speaker 1: half to pay for it. How much was there ship bucks?
Speaker 1: But what it was was it represented where he was
Speaker 1: whenever you came us. When he asked me trash and
Speaker 1: I love this man to the state for this. He
Speaker 1: asked me, you can't have one ft and one ft out.
Speaker 1: I can't have you slinging no more. So can you
Speaker 1: please stop selling drugs? I lied to him for the
Speaker 1: first two months. I was like yeah, and I was
Speaker 1: outside y'all and I was up. I had to work
Speaker 1: for like, I'm doing it away every night, I'm doing
Speaker 1: it in away. Listen, I can nearly had to come
Speaker 1: to me, and this is my first tour. I can
Speaker 1: only had a fire pack on me and I can
Speaker 1: only see me to make a sound. And he said,
Speaker 1: you idiot, motherfucker. This is how he talks to me,
Speaker 1: and it's not a gangster. So he and he on
Speaker 1: my block. I'm looking, you know, I from down the block.
Speaker 1: People are up from the say hood, so I can
Speaker 1: only got out of set. Would you look at this
Speaker 1: ship and every car that drove Bob was playing in
Speaker 1: l A l A. And he said, not just seeing
Speaker 1: you make a sound, He used to make you feel
Speaker 1: like ship hold da, Like what do you mean? But
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's niggas, that's from my hood. It's like
Speaker 1: your album is doing. But I didn't know how. I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to what the fun was you doing?
Speaker 1: Then I was cracking because you know what, like like,
Speaker 1: I've always been an upstate legend doing my ship. So
Speaker 1: even when going back and forth to jail, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I was in good positions, I was hustling and ain't
Speaker 1: nobody know. But sometimes I stood on the corner and
Speaker 1: he's like, what did you do? Yet? What is he doing.
Speaker 1: And I'm just what it was like. But I don't
Speaker 1: do no ship like that no more. I ain't done
Speaker 1: a ship like that in years. Please. I did my
Speaker 1: last hand in hand. It was after the flex freestyle.
Speaker 1: It was outside. Yeah, I'm just being really, but you
Speaker 1: never never no more, never no more. You know what
Speaker 1: I realized about this ship that we don't even have
Speaker 1: to do that. We don't even have to do that.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy ship about it. When you realizing and
Speaker 1: you to the point where you're making money off legal
Speaker 1: ship and you around different people who could who you
Speaker 1: who who could bring opportunities to you because you can
Speaker 1: bring opportunities to them. We don't even have to do that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying That that's just what we
Speaker 1: thought we had to do. Absolutely what I'm saying, Joey cracked. Yes,
Speaker 1: we got rid of it with your yes, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1: He's writing some big ship too that tonight. I thought
Speaker 1: it was to Morrow Murray, right, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Cracks right, there's some big ship I got you, y'all.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you know your little little holy way
Speaker 1: it come to that. That's some ship right there, That's
Speaker 1: a ship. Let's go and put you in the game.
Speaker 1: Joe Crack, you know what I mean. First you Brasy,
Speaker 1: first bats line, I got you, brother favorite Sorry, one up,
Speaker 1: one up your shout out the diamonds d was in
Speaker 1: the building. That's just like this. Listen, just hear his voice,
Speaker 1: but they see. This is what I'm trying to tell you,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what I said this earlier, and
Speaker 1: I do be repeating myself, but listen to me. This
Speaker 1: is the part I want to repeat myself. I don't
Speaker 1: want you to take this a grab because the fact
Speaker 1: that the industry, and I'm telling you I've been a
Speaker 1: part of this motherfucker for twenty years. This is not
Speaker 1: a good industry. It's made to make the artists to
Speaker 1: be growth, it's made to make the artists foul. It's
Speaker 1: not made for you. So when you see other motherfucker's
Speaker 1: that's in this artist artist, try that went through it.
Speaker 1: And that's showing you, guys, this much's love. I just
Speaker 1: want you to know this is not normal, right right right?
Speaker 1: I know I understand that ship. I understand that ship
Speaker 1: because like I always say, like we we buffalo niggas.
Speaker 1: This this meet here, I'm gonna east side Buffalo nigga
Speaker 1: and and I know who your niggas is this something
Speaker 1: Let's team. When I was a teenager, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I take this ship serious and and they're taking
Speaker 1: a shot for that. But and then he just don't
Speaker 1: know what we're about to do with this depth Jam ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We need Tungi everybody over there, Charlene,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's just you don't know
Speaker 1: what my my Rock Nation team niggers don't know what
Speaker 1: riding with Charlene since I'm Loud Records Charlene Brown. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's the home Girl not real ship. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I had to feel comfortable, comfortable with
Speaker 1: the tea. You know what I'm Tina. I told you
Speaker 1: I do no depth gam business yet, but sign the paperwork. Listen,
Speaker 1: you gotta set up a Mr Chat. I don't know
Speaker 1: say less. I told him to throw me a party.
Speaker 1: I want to. I still want to party. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: help out. I love a major name, but you ain't.
Speaker 1: You ain't going to your drinks. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys get a shot. We're taking a shot to
Speaker 1: you your career and Buffalo man, motherfucking buffalo. You're putting
Speaker 1: a whole fucking city town on and y'all riding with it.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, solute brother, and you, I'm saying, now, this
Speaker 1: is my ship. You gotta stop drinking other te killer
Speaker 1: on you. We don't know that that's my ship, yah
Speaker 1: matter owner. The crazy thing about it is, I've never
Speaker 1: met Cark you on an album. We knick it all
Speaker 1: the time over the phone and ship, but I never met.
Speaker 1: But I'm daily on tack. I'm a boy on an album.
Speaker 1: TI more crack commandments. I'm gonna tell you this. We
Speaker 1: had game one here drinking Kaza Zoo and works mistake
Speaker 1: I've ever made here had itself on here a little this.
Speaker 1: I knew it was fun up. I'm not listen to
Speaker 1: crazy about it. I was. I was on the FaceTime
Speaker 1: with Puff with cos amigos in my hand one time.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. So I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: It's not a good day. But listen, my dude, I
Speaker 1: can't say what he told me. I can tell when
Speaker 1: I hear the phone ring like like hustle. I could
Speaker 1: tell when it's money. I can tell when it's bad,
Speaker 1: and I can tell when it's good. Soon as I
Speaker 1: heard the phone ring, I was like, I did something
Speaker 1: fucked up? It rained twice being there. They just don't
Speaker 1: call you twice, ke you once? He called twice and
Speaker 1: I looked. I said, I'm sucked up? What did I do?
Speaker 1: And he then and then he sent me the footage
Speaker 1: that I just sit here, how you gonna myself? But
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. I gotta tell people, like, listen,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna drink the Killer, We're gonna. We're gonna
Speaker 1: drink We're gonna drink Due. If you're gonna drink can Yak,
Speaker 1: you're gonna drink the Homey. So you're gonna drink Champagne,
Speaker 1: We're gonna. I feel like I old him that. And
Speaker 1: by the way, they told him, I owe him man
Speaker 1: both individually to both said shaking. You don't miss them,
Speaker 1: wax I said, jeez, Louise, I do not, But I
Speaker 1: don't miss the Asia Spade. So I'm gonna keep this
Speaker 1: ship hip hop. You got to. If you got to,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it hip because we gotta represent our
Speaker 1: show and that's what we care. It's not just sir
Speaker 1: rock Delhi ya asa Spade do say uh our brother
Speaker 1: Earl Stevens, who were closing a deal with right now
Speaker 1: and we wanted to be down with called Earl Stevens. Yes,
Speaker 1: what are you doing business for us? He put on
Speaker 1: somewhere like so e forty this is your platform anytime
Speaker 1: bell Air, Mr were gross any time. This is your
Speaker 1: platy money that anybody line like, come over here, let's
Speaker 1: put it on the table. We gonna keep this ship
Speaker 1: hip hop because that's what given. These beers are hip
Speaker 1: hop right here. Yes, we got a weapons and I
Speaker 1: don't gotta wait, you gotta he's my sid Yes, and
Speaker 1: also a little deal coming up with Monster to keep
Speaker 1: we make it. I was wondering why this Monster ship
Speaker 1: was here. There's for teaching. Yeah, let's speak anybody here,
Speaker 1: gotta you know, shout on Monster isn't to meet you.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's go. We like you like to do
Speaker 1: so in my mom watter up for get my own water. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know about your deal. You don't give any
Speaker 1: I'm just supposed got about Dominican mother sister. Put my
Speaker 1: Dominican brothers sisters. We gotta kind time want come to yours.
Speaker 1: Do it by the way, you do what you want
Speaker 1: to want to do. You know, it's Dominican type phone.
Speaker 1: Let's just keep it. Who has it? They don't spell.
Speaker 1: I was on people. It's something the air. Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: spell on you. That's not true though. He just was up.
Speaker 1: They kill us and then they just spok and then
Speaker 1: if you've never seen, you've never seen something where they
Speaker 1: go they spick what is it? Yeah, that's the room
Speaker 1: for real, and it's really good at advocate for Tiger
Speaker 1: ball man, we drink tygle this COVID tiger Bone that
Speaker 1: ship with it in the morning since COVID go with
Speaker 1: I mean this is tyger bone. This is does not
Speaker 1: think I'm Tykerbone. Don't want to get the never before man. Yes, yes, yo,
Speaker 1: I know you feel how I feel about him. Well, boys,
Speaker 1: but real hip hop, how much of the fresh air
Speaker 1: it is the it's the heir they movement. It's good
Speaker 1: because you know, like trap ship doing what it was doing,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like no real representation like ship that you
Speaker 1: know we call hip hop right exactly. Salute to being
Speaker 1: the whole because because the niggas who sailed way more
Speaker 1: records than us and everything. It's like, niggas want to
Speaker 1: talk like this about you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's not about trying to have for another nigga guy
Speaker 1: trying to have his spot. It's about having a love
Speaker 1: for them from the from the niggas that matter, the
Speaker 1: foundation we we rap. I'm saying. That's what it's about,
Speaker 1: y'all rap rap exactly. So that's what it's about. It's
Speaker 1: about if if you're in the gym playing and nigga say, like, yo,
Speaker 1: he could you If I say you could play ball,
Speaker 1: I'm saying you could play ball, But if Lebron said
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing myself to Lebrono. I mean like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know or y'all nigga is Lebron and nigga say
Speaker 1: like yo that nigga caball that means everything, And that's
Speaker 1: what I go off. Realm, do you drink it? You
Speaker 1: want fade? You want something good? You gotta he gotta
Speaker 1: You don't know Japanese? Okay, okay, okay, So both of
Speaker 1: y'all will ask both of y'all this question, did you
Speaker 1: ever think of hip hop? But make it this far?
Speaker 1: N I love that answer. You didn't just I didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just to see it come from
Speaker 1: where it came from, Cooks and yes you're from the
Speaker 1: Bronx and there's no way nobody could. You don't had
Speaker 1: that foresight? All right? The ship the top genre right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying top genre music. That's crazy. The ship that
Speaker 1: they try to like and it's changed, like the things
Speaker 1: that we don't even realize it. Like you watched the
Speaker 1: news and they talk in hip hop lingle. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: normal English now and they're talking the ship that they
Speaker 1: wasn't saying before. They're using words they weren't used before,
Speaker 1: they using, they're using slang that's normalized now. It's just crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: news anchors and all that. Yeah, they'd be not even
Speaker 1: something like I want to give a shout out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: things that you wouldn't think of that came from something else.
Speaker 1: How about you you do a hip hop get this fall, man,
Speaker 1: I I didn't think you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: always been inspired by this ship. That's like even even
Speaker 1: with the super Bowl and I'm saying, they're just passed
Speaker 1: all hip hop. They're handing the reins over the to
Speaker 1: niggas like trade. You know what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 1: even even this ship, like like right here, even you
Speaker 1: like a nigger who who came back years ago. Look
Speaker 1: look at this niggas getting bag and ship. What you
Speaker 1: want you getting back to big change? Would you like today?
Speaker 1: We like to. But to be honest with you, hip
Speaker 1: hop has been the blessing for every one of us. Right,
Speaker 1: there's not one person in here who has not been
Speaker 1: touched by hip Right. You said with exit, you don't
Speaker 1: call niggas whack rappers. Yeah, don't do that, because that's
Speaker 1: what I realized. I'm like these niggas feet and niggas.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, These niggas is putting on
Speaker 1: the boys no real ship. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: these niggs, it's a situation for things, so they don't
Speaker 1: gotta do no dumb ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's and that's like one of the ropest parts
Speaker 1: of this whole thing is that we could still be
Speaker 1: in our element and get money off of it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Culture, This ship is culture. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you. Let me ask you this leman deep
Speaker 1: and I have I want. I want to say he's
Speaker 1: my friend. Mc shant on here the other day, okay,
Speaker 1: MC said, Chance said he doesn't want to be called
Speaker 1: a legend because let's change his mind at the end
Speaker 1: of the show about that. Yes, but I want to
Speaker 1: he said, And I told him he was wrong. He
Speaker 1: said to him, legend means they know you, but you broke.
Speaker 1: And I said broke or you broke, that's what he said.
Speaker 1: But your broke, your legend, that's what he said. You
Speaker 1: don't have no, no, no yet he was right there
Speaker 1: and I disagreed with him. I said, that's that's not
Speaker 1: but he corrected himself. He said he did it at
Speaker 1: the end of the end. And you know what it was.
Speaker 1: He wasn't accepting of people honoring him and and and
Speaker 1: giving him that due respect. So he felt disrespected and
Speaker 1: someone came up to him saint legend like, and he
Speaker 1: was calling him old or watched stuff. Because this is
Speaker 1: what I said at the end, us calling allgend. He
Speaker 1: felt it the right way. You just this is what
Speaker 1: I said. I gotta ride where I say. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: called me o g but they don't really mean it.
Speaker 1: They're just calling me old. Gotta read in between it right,
Speaker 1: call me like, like why I like? I like the
Speaker 1: word legend. How did you How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I think it's an honor. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know you earned that. Don't mean me broke was
Speaker 1: a legend. That was my example, Joe's allegen, Joe's let
Speaker 1: go on. I don't even quake, that would be broke
Speaker 1: just to sign no a badge of bombing. But I
Speaker 1: just think that mean to me, that means like you
Speaker 1: stand like forever forever. Like I mean, I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: you you want you don't want? You want my walk
Speaker 1: of fame forever for me? You know I consider you forever.
Speaker 1: I have to say exactly, you know that was one
Speaker 1: thing I had no control over your chance. So this is,
Speaker 1: by the way, but I what I wanted to say,
Speaker 1: I'll probably come out before this. So yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: gonna make sense. But I had to control over. By
Speaker 1: the way, he's the first person I've seen sending this quarner.
Speaker 1: If the first person did a lot of things, a
Speaker 1: lot of but it was not amazing. Amazing honestly, would
Speaker 1: bother me was it was like he couldn't accept the
Speaker 1: love That's what it was all the way a lot
Speaker 1: of people came out in the generation that you didn't
Speaker 1: have this it up. You didn't have Facebook. You ain't
Speaker 1: you ain't have you ain't get to see this constant
Speaker 1: love or this constant hate that you will see every
Speaker 1: single And when I'm telling him, I'm telling MC ship
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeo, what we love you? You know,
Speaker 1: we're playing him and drops of people who actually are
Speaker 1: bigging him up. And He's like, fun this ship, Like
Speaker 1: you didn't want to watch? He didn't? He It made me.
Speaker 1: And then I had Trash trash at the same as
Speaker 1: actually you sitting there because I would write a trash
Speaker 1: because I definitely needed help when I was writing about
Speaker 1: that um and Trash had to tell him you gotta
Speaker 1: accept the love. So so so what crazy is? Sometimes? Uh? Um?
Speaker 1: Sometimes hip hop we don't know how to accept the
Speaker 1: love from the younger generation. Like I remember seeing Mellie
Speaker 1: mel this is we all talking. I've never said this
Speaker 1: and Mellie Mail was so mean and me when I
Speaker 1: first came about, I was like, what's mill? He was
Speaker 1: just like what up? Little Nicks? But back then and
Speaker 1: he was right because it was I had to work
Speaker 1: up to to get that love of early respect, respect,
Speaker 1: So I never, I never he knew who he was
Speaker 1: back then, yeah, but he but listen, through the course
Speaker 1: of time he gave me that love that I was like,
Speaker 1: you said, how you said you you you met me before,
Speaker 1: you said you met me some time one time? You
Speaker 1: met me before that, though I did, like I had
Speaker 1: to meet styles paid five times because you knew I
Speaker 1: was back. You know what I'm saying, That's how I
Speaker 1: should't going right. So I just remember that, and I remember, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm We're always saying to myself, damn I want. I
Speaker 1: wanted the eldest statesman to accept me, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know how to say, can you'll accept me? Like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a real one, I'm gona be in whatever. But
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to ask for that love. So
Speaker 1: my defense mechanism was to be like, all right, so whatever,
Speaker 1: So I had to act like I didn't care. But
Speaker 1: that ship meant the world to me. To see Mellie
Speaker 1: on the Secret Master Flash the Seagret as a cast,
Speaker 1: to see cool hurt and nonally just say hi exactly.
Speaker 1: But but as a young dude, I had develop a
Speaker 1: defense mechanism. So I was like, all right, cool if
Speaker 1: they if they don't show love to me, Dodd shows
Speaker 1: me love. Yeah, she shows me love. Fat Joke shows
Speaker 1: me love. So I took that of the love that
Speaker 1: it was given to me and I did that. But
Speaker 1: I went through years of my career, five six years,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to I just wanted Mellie Mellon and
Speaker 1: the dude to say hi, just like they didn't even
Speaker 1: give me a five. And I've been cool with that,
Speaker 1: and like it was at one point I swear it off.
Speaker 1: The Elder Statesman didn't even they wouldn't even make eye
Speaker 1: contact with me because a lot of niggers. I had
Speaker 1: earned my respect with I know what you're talking about
Speaker 1: room ship because I respected it. Though I'm saying I
Speaker 1: understood it. You understood that I maybe want to earn
Speaker 1: my respect when they get and that's part of him
Speaker 1: hop pain dudes is a part of it. You know
Speaker 1: that some people don't want to do you know, they
Speaker 1: expect you're doing that, but do something for real. Far
Speaker 1: look that way. You know what I'm saying, It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: watch this. That's why I love this show is because
Speaker 1: I get to give back, you know, I get to
Speaker 1: give back, and I get to I get to say
Speaker 1: things like this because I guarantee you Mally's gonna you
Speaker 1: can see this and be like I didn't even know
Speaker 1: nor like because he needed I don't think he meant disrespect,
Speaker 1: but he would right in the long run. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you he would, right. I didn't need to deserve my
Speaker 1: I just got tea on the wire, just got l
Speaker 1: al a like they the warrant wouldn't even drop yet,
Speaker 1: so I get I get it now. But we know
Speaker 1: what I do. Instead of I'll see the baby, I
Speaker 1: walk off to the baby, I'm like, shuck, I see
Speaker 1: little baby walk to them. I'm like, yo, what's uping's
Speaker 1: a doing? Cool? Cool? But when they turn around, I'm
Speaker 1: gone because you know, yeah, yeah, you from young crazy nicks.
Speaker 1: I don't think what's going on. I was, y'all. I
Speaker 1: was y'all boy trying to hit someone. I'm good a
Speaker 1: lot of here, you know what I mean. But I
Speaker 1: always want to embrace the young generation. It's the difference.
Speaker 1: You don't want to ask you this. You gotta do them.
Speaker 1: That's important to us. See, Like even even like me,
Speaker 1: me and you was. I wanted to say, nigga, I
Speaker 1: want to say everything I'm saying to you right now,
Speaker 1: and hopefully I did, but it would make me a
Speaker 1: sucker to see you and say I'm a fan of you,
Speaker 1: and then people go like this or what's up? Right? Right?
Speaker 1: Like no, I want to go I want to hug you.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, yo, I gotta be a fan,
Speaker 1: keeping in in a certain way, my legacy gonna. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, stuff that that help build You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So let me ask you, Diamond,
Speaker 1: because this is what I saw for my live. I
Speaker 1: stopped wanting to give young niggas advice. Maybe I'm a
Speaker 1: found you can tell you gotta get by. But I
Speaker 1: had stopped because sirtain No, they just would look at
Speaker 1: me wrong, and you'd be like, you're old man. You
Speaker 1: ain't gonna on the radio. You were dial up motherfucker right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have something like that. That's the thing though,
Speaker 1: like Griselda, like we we all, we all are told
Speaker 1: you so yes, let me ask you. Let me have
Speaker 1: you ever been frustrated like trying to give somebody who
Speaker 1: I got a younger doc coming up in the game.
Speaker 1: You've been through everything I could go through? Right? Have
Speaker 1: you ever tried to give advice to a yoke? I
Speaker 1: only give it a fight since my acts, Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't throw it out. You know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: that's because you see much speak. That's howd to me.
Speaker 1: You just wait for young younger duce approach me or
Speaker 1: hit me in the graham and you know he ain't
Speaker 1: talking reckless. I'll answer him like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If so that way, he doesn't seem like it's forced upon.
Speaker 1: And it's like they see if they if they seek
Speaker 1: some mid flights, how ansome you? That's fine. I know
Speaker 1: it's all good. That's fine. Let me ask you the
Speaker 1: opposite question. Have you ever reached out to the old
Speaker 1: GM been disappointed or a legend? Uh? And you want
Speaker 1: to be its? Talk about it? What I'm saying only
Speaker 1: only like like feeling like even talking about it. Let's go.
Speaker 1: That's that. It's just like you know when when when
Speaker 1: when the nigga gave you that give you the energy
Speaker 1: like no you you ain't you made it here yet? Nigger?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I see you. You know
Speaker 1: how that should go. But like I said to me,
Speaker 1: it's about working art and doing my ship. But inspiration
Speaker 1: but who I can't I can't even think of who's
Speaker 1: but definitely niggas. Niggas in definitely shaded me. Of course,
Speaker 1: nigga shaded me. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's curious.
Speaker 1: It's industry. Industry is no. But that taught me though,
Speaker 1: That taught me know, you gotta grind, You gotta show
Speaker 1: niggas because that's what it's about. Now. It's enough going
Speaker 1: on where you could put yourself in a position to
Speaker 1: do it. You for what I'm saying, so like if
Speaker 1: you're not doing it, like who faughts that you? People believe?
Speaker 1: That's one of the that's one of my main ships
Speaker 1: because I probably myself on the team that I built.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I gotta I got. My
Speaker 1: team is solid, and niggas wonder how I did that
Speaker 1: because Nigga, I work harder than them, niggas. Nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: work harder than you work in your team. You gotta
Speaker 1: show them, niggas. So you know, a lot a lot
Speaker 1: of niggas think being a rapper is being catered to,
Speaker 1: but that's actually the opposite I'm talking. What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's really the opposite of what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you gotta you gotta go stupid
Speaker 1: with this ship. They don't know that. They think, Oh,
Speaker 1: then what you're supposed to do for me with you nigga,
Speaker 1: You supposed to make it. You gotta make a nigga
Speaker 1: some money when he pulls to sign you and give
Speaker 1: you some paper. All right, you gotta make these people
Speaker 1: some money and add the dollars and cents. What's that ship?
Speaker 1: You probably know I've been talking about this ship lately,
Speaker 1: Like when the labels signed the Nigger Beco. They know
Speaker 1: not gonna recoup the money. It's a term off. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm sax right off to them. It's a tax writer off.
Speaker 1: But to the point where they even they call it something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I forgot, I know you took my mom. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it's like fuck it, even though
Speaker 1: they know they've got to spend some money to even
Speaker 1: they have like this type of culture at their label. Well,
Speaker 1: well it's like labels, to be quite frank, Labels have
Speaker 1: a certain amount of money they have to spend every year,
Speaker 1: so with that being said, they definitely signed people they
Speaker 1: don't like fail. You know what I'm saying that they're
Speaker 1: signing YouTube foul And you gotta know who you are.
Speaker 1: You gotta know if you're the artists that's there to
Speaker 1: make them money or you the artists there to make
Speaker 1: them think to make the flop, because you know, because
Speaker 1: it's definitely I definitely sat down with labels who had
Speaker 1: big artists at their label who're just telling me like, man,
Speaker 1: we got such and such, we got such such, we
Speaker 1: got such and such, And that's making me like, I
Speaker 1: ain't sunk with y'alls. Imagine all we don't know about,
Speaker 1: because that's what you better ask them, right, let me
Speaker 1: ask you, Timond. Recently, Pete Rock just uh made it
Speaker 1: public that he was suing the illmatic of State, right
Speaker 1: because the woman has it that he ain't he didn't
Speaker 1: get paid. He didn't, he didn't get paid. Is that common?
Speaker 1: It should be? It shouldn't, It should be, but it
Speaker 1: should be commix. But I don't I don't think like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I read like he was suing NAS right,
Speaker 1: but I don't know the paper. I don't know if
Speaker 1: his if his deal was between him and non production company,
Speaker 1: or between him and Columbia rough House, right, Columbia. But
Speaker 1: whoever his deal is with, because I could almost guarantee
Speaker 1: you NASA did CO signed him not being paid. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he wanted to. But right we're thinking about you know,
Speaker 1: performing and you know what, you much thinking about what's
Speaker 1: going on with the producers. It always depends on who
Speaker 1: Pete made his deal with. Okay, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean that, and that's that's where his focus should be.
Speaker 1: But he just he just put NAS name out there,
Speaker 1: and you know it might not even be nascause was
Speaker 1: the news. I knew all its back then too. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's because it seems weird because within these twenty years
Speaker 1: we see them together, we see them hanging out. So
Speaker 1: obviously it happened on ill Matic. So this is twenty
Speaker 1: what five maybe twenty seven years? How the ship like
Speaker 1: that happened? I don't like, God, damn, I mean, producer
Speaker 1: has been getting jerk. I'm sure you could speak to us.
Speaker 1: There's been a problem. You puts on your paperwork, right,
Speaker 1: you know the game, the game is built on the right,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, we were from the error
Speaker 1: when he was getting like thirty thousands, twenty track you know.
Speaker 1: Now you know we've been doing beats for like five
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands if anything, and then not even hits
Speaker 1: somebody saying they pay you on the bank and something
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean. But it all,
Speaker 1: it all depends on the agreement you signed. You ain't
Speaker 1: gonna get what you negotiate for, right, right, and your
Speaker 1: responsibility that you're saying, you know what I mean. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's what I showed that little suit. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh much of her to play out, Like I like
Speaker 1: what you said earlier that like how your deal with
Speaker 1: the labor was fair? Yeah, it was fair because I
Speaker 1: say that a lot, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: you know, nigger speak about the fund up deals with
Speaker 1: the labors for domn't speak about the fair deals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the regular deal volume. I love my penalty deal. Oh
Speaker 1: I couldn't seal because a lot of people didn't really
Speaker 1: realize was still an independent that was acting like amazing.
Speaker 1: It was Tommy Boy that was behind the penalty and
Speaker 1: it was an independent and yeah but they had major money.
Speaker 1: Is that Neil's and don't Yeah I had it failed
Speaker 1: there like I'm not one of these guys that you know,
Speaker 1: did uh major deals with these labels and had it
Speaker 1: and and and not for not for nothing like this
Speaker 1: this people like Fat Joe. That's the same thing as
Speaker 1: people like Buster Ron that UH was was was seeking
Speaker 1: because Buster is a very He's an expensive nick. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm really he's an expensive dude, Like
Speaker 1: you have nothing for my guys, it's cheap. Nothing he
Speaker 1: does is cheap. So Buster Buster has to be on
Speaker 1: a label that caters to him. You understand I'm saying
Speaker 1: so so so again. I say that to say I've
Speaker 1: never really also than me being on Timing Boint for
Speaker 1: that one album. Damn gotta remember I got inherited by
Speaker 1: Timmy Port. He came so he came to him. He
Speaker 1: was like, so, by the way, um, there's no more penalty,
Speaker 1: It just you guys just want us. He's like, what crazy,
Speaker 1: biggest changed my whole life. Looks like somebody to meeting
Speaker 1: you tomorrow. But like, yos all right, So you're not
Speaker 1: on that jam no more like you're on your own Pinnacle.
Speaker 1: You're like, what, Like Pinnacle is a subsidiary of Universal
Speaker 1: and you're just sitting there you have nothing to do.
Speaker 1: He already fired him, He fired the dude. He planned
Speaker 1: this Outum, the only person that didn't know was us.
Speaker 1: So God bless you for using this this this, this
Speaker 1: statement and how I say it. But it was like
Speaker 1: a slave trade. Damn. See that's the biggest thing. See,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. That's the biggest thing they say
Speaker 1: about the labels is that the staffs which and ship
Speaker 1: like that. You know what I'm saying that, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it changes the dynamic of that moment about your projects
Speaker 1: and where you understand how that ship feels to. That's
Speaker 1: why we signed the CBS movie. We signed the CBS.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be friends with nobody at CBS
Speaker 1: because yeah, he made me. I gonna talk to him.
Speaker 1: But because you know this ship you like, I don't
Speaker 1: even know. I don't even want to be cool with
Speaker 1: you ship. Don't you want to do this? Because I
Speaker 1: noticed that, you know what, when I was going about
Speaker 1: it like a street nigger meeting, I was going out
Speaker 1: to dinner with people and then they gotta leave, they
Speaker 1: get fired, or they gotta move onto this. And now
Speaker 1: I got a relationship with them, and you invest in
Speaker 1: time said time. I'm so moving forward when it's this
Speaker 1: podcast game, I was like, I don't want a relationship
Speaker 1: with back. Should I make ship the ship? And it
Speaker 1: worked out. It was nobody didn't stout or no, this
Speaker 1: is we're album were at the time, you know when
Speaker 1: you wand up over there that time when till me
Speaker 1: when he that was out there, No, it was time,
Speaker 1: it was it was mixing. Yeah, I went, I went,
Speaker 1: I went to meet him here. I think that's that's
Speaker 1: the longer. The longer niggas being this game like to me,
Speaker 1: like the colder they get, you know what I'm sayingcause
Speaker 1: they're getting them taller tricks and ship. When I see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that what I told you earlier, I said,
Speaker 1: I have no expectations. So regardless of I meet somebody
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be up like shop or guards, I
Speaker 1: meet somebody supposed to be broke like a joke, like
Speaker 1: a joke, I don't have no expectations of them. So
Speaker 1: what I mean is I just you know, I'll be
Speaker 1: who I am and if we can move forward and
Speaker 1: we can do something that's beautiful, but if not, I
Speaker 1: don't have no expectations. That when I started to be
Speaker 1: hurt is when I started to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I need a verse from this guy, and this guy
Speaker 1: changed his number in the middle of me, or you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, change his number. You just see
Speaker 1: the dots. You just see the dots like he's probably
Speaker 1: it text you back like the dotss coming up and
Speaker 1: he's like because he universe yet oh so, And what
Speaker 1: I started to say it was, you know what, I
Speaker 1: can't let that make me who I am. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I gotta meet maintain that when it takes a lot,
Speaker 1: because the farther you get and the war you go
Speaker 1: in this industry, the war people is going to encounter
Speaker 1: you and they're going to disappoint the industry. That's that's
Speaker 1: the thing that confuses everything is that we're dealing with
Speaker 1: the industry and then we're dealing with a culture. And
Speaker 1: then we blearned those lines that we confuse those lines.
Speaker 1: We got hip hop and then we got the industry
Speaker 1: that drives the money making aspect of hip hop coaching,
Speaker 1: and we just gotta understand that those are two different
Speaker 1: things that meet in the middle, and we confuse the
Speaker 1: middle for the thing that's that's at le perspective of it.
Speaker 1: You know, and that make a lot of sense. That
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like I always always say ship, like I was
Speaker 1: saying this earlier, Like they always say rappers this, rappers that.
Speaker 1: They say rappers take this and rappers do that. But
Speaker 1: rappings do with what's in the streets. It's all from
Speaker 1: the streets. It's all from the culture, and we just
Speaker 1: we just like poster boys for it. But you see
Speaker 1: it on us. You don't see our neighborhood. Done boy,
Speaker 1: Yeah what I'm saying. But you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But you don't. You don't see the you don't see
Speaker 1: the baddest bitch from our hood. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like we speak for them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know what I mean. It's not
Speaker 1: a it's not a rap thing. It's really a street thing,
Speaker 1: a culture thing from things. You know. It's real talk.
Speaker 1: That's real talk. That's why you know. It's it's beautiful
Speaker 1: to see what you're doing. It's beautiful. Let's drove me here, oh, Jerome,
Speaker 1: me come through. He ain't taking no shot. I'm wasted.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Okay, you gotta take a shot me yet
Speaker 1: it's really tear them over there. But let me tell
Speaker 1: you something to this day away, Like even when I
Speaker 1: when even when I thought about you guys earlier, and
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I spoke about Conway, I thought
Speaker 1: about trial called Quests fight blobum dropped today too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fucking so so did I say that this second? I
Speaker 1: want to I want to want um, I wanna um.
Speaker 1: I want you to give him some advice. If you can't, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that because I gave him advice a little
Speaker 1: meeting with me and Trash from Brown and in order
Speaker 1: for being trashed to fix our ship, we both agreed
Speaker 1: to have a four chicken wing and a Frenchman, right yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's where we started out and talking with each
Speaker 1: other's deep. If you could that's when we did. We
Speaker 1: would have happened to get what it was. If you
Speaker 1: can see the good sell the movement and you can
Speaker 1: see how powerful there is. But then we watched this
Speaker 1: this Conway interview on the Breakfast Club where he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: I didn't uh, I didn't I signed for no money
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever whatever he was saying, which which is
Speaker 1: what all of those artists going. But that single thing
Speaker 1: could be the straw that broke the cameras. But you
Speaker 1: as being a part of a legendary group that not
Speaker 1: only kind of broke up but broke up in a
Speaker 1: public in aug in a super ugly way, which I
Speaker 1: had never I had never really seek that till I
Speaker 1: watched the documentary. I didn't. I never knew tim and
Speaker 1: fight was like that. M hm. Let me just say
Speaker 1: all the time can here, Okay, I didn't know that
Speaker 1: it's us on a documentary like y'all, y'all covering that
Speaker 1: ship up. Great, all the ships that you've seen. It's
Speaker 1: the worst circumstances. Okay, I'll go to the big gas
Speaker 1: flare up like you say. Okay, I like that. Like
Speaker 1: our people is a little different, I guess from everybody
Speaker 1: else's because we grew up together from blue kids. We
Speaker 1: weren't playing. Yeah, we didn't get put together like as
Speaker 1: a group and ship like that or like, oh that's
Speaker 1: grown man, like you know what I'm saying. No, No,
Speaker 1: we get little kids, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: just like brothers, brothers fight all the time, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's crazy to the outside, But
Speaker 1: it's not. You know, they're still coming to each other,
Speaker 1: of course. But the thing though that made everything better
Speaker 1: and passed everything up was just like you said, us,
Speaker 1: I bothered them so much to do the album, but
Speaker 1: they finally was like, Yo, let's trying to do this
Speaker 1: album and which the album that was the last one?
Speaker 1: Last one got first grade. I bothered him so much.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, let'steward getting us in the room together.
Speaker 1: Being in the room together, it's way different. The yakking
Speaker 1: on the phone sending test back to back is way different.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. We said, Yo, if the
Speaker 1: ship is whack, ship is whack, we're not putting it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ahead, But we would have spent that time together.
Speaker 1: We passed it up at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Donna kind of taking ego out of it. And remember
Speaker 1: we got you all there in our first place. Damn.
Speaker 1: Now that's real ship. That's real ship. One of my
Speaker 1: uncles used to have the same you gotta dance with
Speaker 1: the bitch a pork h on top of bring that
Speaker 1: slick right there. Your uncle said, you gotta gotta dance
Speaker 1: with the bitch you brought bringing sand to the beaches okay,
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no no, no. Pitch brought the bitch,
Speaker 1: bitch you that she got you in the party. That's
Speaker 1: the one you gotta stay dance. It's the same thing
Speaker 1: is bringing sands until you took through that. That's what
Speaker 1: you bring it A lot to him, into a lot
Speaker 1: to the beach, to me. I bring it my own girl. Yah.
Speaker 1: That's that's what got you. You made an agreement to
Speaker 1: the heavens and weather something because if you love what
Speaker 1: you do, I'm sure you couldn't get effected and do
Speaker 1: the ship. You got it, Ye got on it. Responsibility,
Speaker 1: you got it right. But that you nable what your
Speaker 1: right right, and you will never be right. But until
Speaker 1: you until you do see, I see, I see a
Speaker 1: lot of it because I'm signed the result the record,
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be honestly before you to say anything,
Speaker 1: to tell you the tooth. And I know all three
Speaker 1: of y'all right individually. I remember west Side hit me
Speaker 1: on Twitter it was like it's time for Griselda to
Speaker 1: be on dre chance and I was like that got
Speaker 1: like a couple of years when then y'all legends, and
Speaker 1: I know he was mad that I know he was
Speaker 1: mad at me, but I was had to do. She
Speaker 1: didn't really have to do with many another team. It
Speaker 1: was all the mad it was. It wasn't done on purpose.
Speaker 1: And I said, damn, I could see if he was
Speaker 1: mad at me. I could see, right Wig, he's mad
Speaker 1: at me and why? And then I said, oh, you
Speaker 1: can't turn into the people that you didn't. You didn't
Speaker 1: like that when it was done to you. But you
Speaker 1: gotta do a little bit of gatekeeper though, because that's
Speaker 1: what watching it is like it was now, but maybe
Speaker 1: not that it could have been a conversation that he
Speaker 1: could Okay, so I'm sorry exactly cut you up? So
Speaker 1: what you was and I was gonna say the buzz definitely,
Speaker 1: I know buzz buzz definitely took that person. It's like, damn, man,
Speaker 1: because everyone's definition of a legend is different, right, and
Speaker 1: everyone's a legend own, right. But like you said, you
Speaker 1: right though, like I said, I put myself in a
Speaker 1: position where I where I earned it your respect. But
Speaker 1: what I was saying is I know exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What what what Conway was trying to say on that,
Speaker 1: It's like that I got scared when I saw it
Speaker 1: it's like this because being being I was gonna say
Speaker 1: this earlier, like being signed to Griselda and being your
Speaker 1: own person, if you if you if you're in a
Speaker 1: group or something like. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: like you want to know you want to be known
Speaker 1: for the credit that you put in. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's all it's about. And and and Conway.
Speaker 1: That's why he say lines if like if West owned
Speaker 1: the house, I guess I did the construction, I say,
Speaker 1: because you want to let people know, like you know,
Speaker 1: I helped build this saying even if any day you know,
Speaker 1: there's clearest day, but sometimes it don't be like how
Speaker 1: you said how mc shan feels, don't know when you
Speaker 1: don't when it gave me, it gave me wizzer odp vibe,
Speaker 1: Like when you see that that that was it the
Speaker 1: rocket Fellow the documentary or was it when when when
Speaker 1: ode B came home and you just see Rizon odie
Speaker 1: me fall out right right right around it was I
Speaker 1: did not want to see that, like because I loved
Speaker 1: like let me, Mom just told me I'm a gullible motherfucker.
Speaker 1: The other day I said, I still want to see
Speaker 1: the original factor together stock, he said, Stock wishing fact
Speaker 1: like from from from our collective. It's like I go
Speaker 1: through some ship too basically like where people try to
Speaker 1: say people make me the underdog or the group or
Speaker 1: make me try to try to make me out the
Speaker 1: little niggle to group. But that's not that's not West Conway.
Speaker 1: That's the people. That's because you know, you always do
Speaker 1: you know, why do people take it like that You
Speaker 1: always bigger Western Coway like that, you always big the dudes.
Speaker 1: That that right. You can't let the public and the
Speaker 1: people your fling. That's what I do. That's why I
Speaker 1: beg everybody up. You know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: like it's there's people who would have trying to pick
Speaker 1: me against other artists. But I've never feed into that ship.
Speaker 1: But were humans, we do feel what I understand that
Speaker 1: it's not between it's not between me and Buzz, it's
Speaker 1: between you know what I'm saying that that's the fans.
Speaker 1: They try to get that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's so crazy because you got Griselda fans,
Speaker 1: every Broselda fan. It's not a bit to your fans.
Speaker 1: They starting Yeah, I'm just really so it's like as
Speaker 1: soon as I stepped a little outside of that, it's
Speaker 1: like like they're waiting for it. They're like, now you,
Speaker 1: we don't funk with you no more. You went there,
Speaker 1: so you went that, and that's a part of it.
Speaker 1: So you always want to let you always want to
Speaker 1: let people know, like, Okay, well that ship you loves
Speaker 1: the most. Maybe that was my idea. And it don't
Speaker 1: be you don't even be with the parties involved. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: be with the people who were like, damn ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you know what I mean, Yo, But listen, let
Speaker 1: me just tell y'all, y'all got a chance to really
Speaker 1: make this game better, right right, right right. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what the other way to say it. I
Speaker 1: just gotta be straight up. And I think when he
Speaker 1: said y'all became the certain generations, I told you, so
Speaker 1: it's perfect that I was kidding that. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: said it earlier. Iver say it again. I haven't robbed.
Speaker 1: I haven't trying to put a bar together in years,
Speaker 1: but just the back and I started listening to you,
Speaker 1: and you know, to play this. You're back from that,
Speaker 1: you know what? Get your own bottles? Yeah, you do
Speaker 1: you want to music? Uh, well, yeah, no, Sunday is not.
Speaker 1: He's not a boo goo at all. Jay Z said
Speaker 1: he does not want him to drink a spade. He
Speaker 1: did not say you good. But and again I know
Speaker 1: I said this earlier, but I literally was sitting there
Speaker 1: getting the heir because of listening to your ship, and
Speaker 1: I just started the words. I just was like, I
Speaker 1: just started listening, and I caught myself. I said, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, am I trying to be a rapper again?
Speaker 1: But that's what your music does. It brings that I
Speaker 1: don't know. It touches people. That's why I said, we
Speaker 1: can't call it drink music. You gotta call it feeling.
Speaker 1: Because I got in my film and the Champions e
Speaker 1: MC the logical evolution of the real ship. When I
Speaker 1: hear y'all ship, this is what I expected the future ship.
Speaker 1: The sound right right, And that's the joke y'all was
Speaker 1: doing like down like that. It gives me faith. Like
Speaker 1: I gotta disagree with dude, I gotta disagree with you.
Speaker 1: But when you said you expect the future to sound
Speaker 1: like that, well he used to expect. I thought the
Speaker 1: street music was going like you gotta really could have
Speaker 1: the Street died. Yeah, but you know what it was
Speaker 1: when I came out, I explained to him earlier. I
Speaker 1: came out on n ninety seven, and Pump Daddy had
Speaker 1: me so heated with this shiny suit motherfucker's sun. Even
Speaker 1: when you were saying that ship, when you were saying
Speaker 1: that ship earlier, I was thinking, like, Na, you know
Speaker 1: the trenches was the trenches was locked. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know what, we didn't have Twitter, we didn't have with
Speaker 1: the trenches. No, you know what trees the trenches making
Speaker 1: somebody albums or go to show exactly problem. You know,
Speaker 1: you know where they come and talk, but ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But to see y'all do it. Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really I'm really, really pretty proud, and
Speaker 1: I really want y'all, you know, you know, as a crew,
Speaker 1: to make sure y'all keep it tight, because because there's
Speaker 1: gonna be nine problems and it's gonna be ninety nine
Speaker 1: answers of why you shouldn't be together. But it's the
Speaker 1: one reason it's just should pay attention to why you
Speaker 1: should stay together. And it's because of y'all. Was broke together.
Speaker 1: I gotta stay rich together. That's a fact. That's a fact.
Speaker 1: That's what I was. Stay rich together. That's how I
Speaker 1: looked at it. You can't be broken. You can't be
Speaker 1: mother fucking broken and then get this money and then
Speaker 1: reaching gold with your dreams and then fall out over
Speaker 1: the paper. There's not enough more money in the world.
Speaker 1: And together doesn't have to be by anybod these definitions.
Speaker 1: But y'all people, but people look at it different when
Speaker 1: they when they when they see when they see us
Speaker 1: branching off doing our shop. Because I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: like I said this to you earlier, because it's y'all
Speaker 1: presented yourself as this perfect we've forgotten you're humans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: got your humans, real ships because y'are y'are presented it
Speaker 1: so well and so great that we're sitting back like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool. We we seen we seen the Scrapper season,
Speaker 1: who Taint Claim, we see the Discriper season, the Trial
Speaker 1: cor Quest. You've seen the Screpu season, mab Deep, you
Speaker 1: see the screpaces and component we've all made it a
Speaker 1: publicly kind of like in an asshole way. But y'all,
Speaker 1: did you know what I'm saying, y'all didn't so we expect,
Speaker 1: but this is what we It's what you gave us.
Speaker 1: It's what y'all, y'all gave us as a team. Like
Speaker 1: we we we we don't want y'all be like like,
Speaker 1: you know what the crazy ship was Qui. I did
Speaker 1: a deal with a Quire and I were on the
Speaker 1: road with Quid and I realized if it goes space
Speaker 1: to stop traveling the same bus together. The ship bothered
Speaker 1: me by the just like, wait a minute, why does
Speaker 1: Ghols have his own buss? Why does it Qua have
Speaker 1: his own bus? Waterfucker's ray and goals not on the
Speaker 1: same bus. And I didn't realize that everyone kind of
Speaker 1: needs days space. We're still together, but they need their space.
Speaker 1: So that next year, Uh, that's compota. Oriega, your own
Speaker 1: mother came to Miami. We're going to We're gonna definitely
Speaker 1: have our own ships. Yeah, I gotta spend the time
Speaker 1: with you're all together. No, man, that's what the Chinese
Speaker 1: when even when we do got our own ships, that
Speaker 1: the conway, he gonna always make sure he comes to
Speaker 1: my trailer. You know you don't better do that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's that's big buzz. But you
Speaker 1: know me, that's the first thing I do. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: going to check in with West or what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like I remained my humbleness. What I'm saying, like, I
Speaker 1: just I just learned that, you know, this, this ship
Speaker 1: is not easy, and it's all a bund of the
Speaker 1: work that you put in. You just learned, he said, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's what I you know what I have them.
Speaker 1: Just learned that from why from from being in a
Speaker 1: situation where my cousin, my blood cousin tell me like nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm about to sign then interscope, I'm from Buffalore. I
Speaker 1: think I think we are rich each other. That yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I was lutely raking
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But since seventeen, I was five years ago.
Speaker 1: So that's when I learned that. I think I got
Speaker 1: five thousand jacket. He wasn't wrong when he said, but
Speaker 1: many more problems he was. He was not wrong, not really.
Speaker 1: So it's about the high work you put in, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when the niggas, because I see lasted
Speaker 1: so long, all the niggas like even, like I say,
Speaker 1: even you think the first thing I think about, like,
Speaker 1: damn y'all niggas putting so much worse. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: first thing I think about. What I'm saying, I don't
Speaker 1: think about all the shining ship. I don't thinking about
Speaker 1: the other ship that niggas go through. The to be
Speaker 1: here after so much time, you know, I'm so's it's
Speaker 1: hard because um, like you said, when you broke together
Speaker 1: and then you gotta stay together, that there's only two people.
Speaker 1: It's only two days that you can learn from a person.
Speaker 1: In real life, you can learn what a person is
Speaker 1: in two days. Why go to jail with him and
Speaker 1: to going forward with him? You will know from ship.
Speaker 1: You will know every ship that that that that that
Speaker 1: that hurts you of me. You know that in the
Speaker 1: first four hours, you know, being self with the wild
Speaker 1: Niggers on tour. And that's that's our position, Wild niggas
Speaker 1: on talk ships. That's just what are we doing. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, niggas, no niggas, no me. I
Speaker 1: got to think it's with me who I probably should
Speaker 1: have with me. You know what I'm saying, just regular ship.
Speaker 1: We're just going on tour. We're having fun. But these
Speaker 1: my friends, these things, they don't come every time, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna come in these times. And you know they
Speaker 1: love at wests love they don't don't don't, don't have
Speaker 1: nobody shooting fire. So we are doing we not shooting
Speaker 1: to my sticker ships. I brough one of my friends
Speaker 1: at the draw that he has never seen me again
Speaker 1: after this. He won't come over, won't come now. Maybe
Speaker 1: we got godless that his retirement. Come over, come on it,
Speaker 1: But you just be a wild nigger. No what me? Well, listen,
Speaker 1: I should stopped the homie. The homie pulled out the
Speaker 1: big fire sticking ship. I said, you went first of all,
Speaker 1: you can't just pull it out. You gotta break some
Speaker 1: just trying to say, like the fire department come so
Speaker 1: I ain't a live part of me was like, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to work that. Keep chouting. I say that
Speaker 1: tell a connected me. Actually, I just wanted to see
Speaker 1: what he can do. This is interesting, my dude, he said,
Speaker 1: it looked like nine eleven. The bree I've never seen
Speaker 1: someone turned into a statue. If she came out him
Speaker 1: and he when the fires the box don't work, that
Speaker 1: way my story. She got an instant concretem and she
Speaker 1: who's spider Man. So you know I like this man,
Speaker 1: this is a great story. We got kicked out of
Speaker 1: the hotel immediately. I was actually when the hotel my room,
Speaker 1: I said, I ain't got nothing to worry about. I'm
Speaker 1: packing up. We at a lied because, like we had,
Speaker 1: a lot was waiting for you. They're waiting for you
Speaker 1: to come. And they know niggers on the raptor out
Speaker 1: on the front smoking and ship. They can't wait here.
Speaker 1: Sign this no smoking maybe on your body when you
Speaker 1: pay a story. Try to get me recently smoking charge.
Speaker 1: God damn love y'all walk off. You have to relax.
Speaker 1: They took it off my build. What's your favorite? Making
Speaker 1: the music or performing the music? Mhm. I gotta say.
Speaker 1: I gotta say making the music, and I gotta say
Speaker 1: making a music that when I'm making the music, I'm
Speaker 1: on a different type of stage. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio. I'm locked in. Don't let it
Speaker 1: be one of my favorite ships out Damn jer what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm in, I'm one of my favorite studios.
Speaker 1: I'm locked in. I got all my niggas there is.
Speaker 1: It's a different type of performance, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Then you go in all eyes on you. We're going that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like real ship. I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was a found nigger like that one out the
Speaker 1: booth right iced to even fourteen niggas in the pool. Engineer.
Speaker 1: I was the engineer's worst night man. Actually, we're gonna
Speaker 1: look at engineer right there. Worst night man my nigga.
Speaker 1: But it was worth the four Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I loved it because you know, I started writing rhymes
Speaker 1: with jail, so I like chaos. Yeah, man, I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a different dude. I need noise. You know, most
Speaker 1: niggas quiet. I want to hear really ship. So that's
Speaker 1: when I started. You gotta realize, I started writing robs
Speaker 1: and I was in jail, so I couldn't write ROMs
Speaker 1: to a beat. I had to write rhymes through the
Speaker 1: radio station, so I would right over nigga's beats. That
Speaker 1: is chaos. That is noise. And then by the way,
Speaker 1: this is myself mate to the left. He's jerking off
Speaker 1: the other nigga to the writers, trying to kill himself
Speaker 1: because he can't go to the yard that they just
Speaker 1: got his hurt. She kiss his soul in slinging the
Speaker 1: Hersey kisses that he just told she was just out
Speaker 1: of control. And right I got drinking off. I had
Speaker 1: to block all that ship out and just sit down
Speaker 1: and just write rhymes and just right over there and
Speaker 1: put myself out of that equation. So that's why I
Speaker 1: just said, I appreciate your craft. I appreciate your heart
Speaker 1: because your heart through me right to where you were.
Speaker 1: But that's what I had to do, and Jail was
Speaker 1: right to be home. I had nothing else to do.
Speaker 1: So I'm writing from the perspective of a person at home,
Speaker 1: but I was not home. And that's the reason why
Speaker 1: I enjoyed cam. That's why this ship works. Like I
Speaker 1: love this ship like I love engineer somewhere that worked
Speaker 1: with you in the past. That it's like I hate
Speaker 1: now right he was a genious that right now because
Speaker 1: we adopted where we go. I need, I need my friends.
Speaker 1: How about that? I don't. I don't want to mix
Speaker 1: and mingle with anybody anymore. I'm sorry I would with
Speaker 1: me man, let's let's argue, But I want to argue
Speaker 1: my friends that I don't argue, but knowing us so
Speaker 1: you know we're the same way. After ship all my names,
Speaker 1: they're popping up and don't give a funk coming out
Speaker 1: of what we shouldn't be crazy who someone who gave
Speaker 1: you love that you would get an inspect to get you?
Speaker 1: Uh honestly, Uh nah, what I'm saying that I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna I mean turks, little big Yeah, why not see
Speaker 1: them at World in loud? You know what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: you don't know what ain't little woozy food shoulders. It
Speaker 1: was it was, It wasn't nothing like that. It was
Speaker 1: that at the UH at the forty party. I went
Speaker 1: there and hold ship on the jet. When I went
Speaker 1: and ship, what I'm saying makes some noise for me.
Speaker 1: By the way, is a street nigger from everything right?
Speaker 1: He is not who he is. He's so we're moving through,
Speaker 1: we move, I'm moving through. I'm saying, he got a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people around him. I got a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of people around me. But we lock eye and
Speaker 1: he's like, you know what I'm saying, on some street
Speaker 1: nigger ship, they did a buncher. I'm like, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you never think a little bozy butcher.
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot for that. So you want some
Speaker 1: Japanese tell y'all, this is like how you flug yourself here.
Speaker 1: I meant to make it believe that nobody got a
Speaker 1: jock class hell. You know what, Yeah he said, he
Speaker 1: making it ship. Now shout out to my Majuanna King.
Speaker 1: But he does make it up. Crib do you go?
Speaker 1: You got you got your shout out your own right?
Speaker 1: Ain't you playing this game? So what's the only thing goal? Now?
Speaker 1: Everything I'm saying, you know, making your own movie to
Speaker 1: real shift. I got the movie deal with my n
Speaker 1: movie deal, sound soundtrack deal. I'm a gonna do Conflicted
Speaker 1: to We did that already. So that's my next ship,
Speaker 1: the movies. I signed a whole bunch of artists about
Speaker 1: to turn out turn my ship to a distribution company
Speaker 1: like all these other labels doing. You know what I'm saying, bro,
Speaker 1: shut up with a lot of rap niggers who who
Speaker 1: gravitate towards me. You know what I'm saying, produced, They
Speaker 1: produce these niggas albums, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: they move around with these niggers and put shows together
Speaker 1: because like you said, like we said, the hip hop,
Speaker 1: the hip hop cloth is strong, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And that's in all aspects. Put these shows together. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm I'm doing numbers at the shows that
Speaker 1: niggas who got what I'm saying, platinum albums doing the
Speaker 1: shows like and that ship spread spread around to the
Speaker 1: artists and everything. So what's funny is it's not no
Speaker 1: big Greado record, It's not no big streams. So it
Speaker 1: means that your man is you on your guys. Fans
Speaker 1: are like really still getting music the way we whatever,
Speaker 1: like mix tapes and like that. Not dead by the way,
Speaker 1: that's a special thing. That's special. Yeah, grab shools connection. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no word of the word shot was one of
Speaker 1: the promoms that brings you out here. It's not a
Speaker 1: word of mouth for no more. This word of Twitter,
Speaker 1: this word of Facebook, word of Instagram. And you guys
Speaker 1: are still like with respecting all of us here. You
Speaker 1: guys are putting it out the way we put it out.
Speaker 1: You know, if we offend dj efend you know, did
Speaker 1: D and dr TC and trial called question y'all are
Speaker 1: the only people who putting it out in the traditional way.
Speaker 1: That's why I feel like everyone is so proud of
Speaker 1: y'all is because it's not about the streaming with y'all.
Speaker 1: Ain't about that ship. It ain't about that, but nigger.
Speaker 1: That's that's special, man, And it's bridging the guy because
Speaker 1: they made it seem like everything was about the streaming.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, you know, the merchant the merchants and
Speaker 1: things we started doing. We didn't read, we didn't invent
Speaker 1: the finals because they said, you see the million and
Speaker 1: merch You know what I'm saying, Hell yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: what I do. But you know what I'm saying. A
Speaker 1: thing I mean with the homies are dude, right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's nothing because that's how
Speaker 1: that's how the ship. That's how this independent ship was built.
Speaker 1: But that's how the gristel this ship was built on.
Speaker 1: It was built on doing everything. You know what's funded up.
Speaker 1: We made T shirts that gave it away, damn. You know,
Speaker 1: that's when they can say, like this day we had
Speaker 1: a T shirt we had that telling them I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna live ain't a little bit who comfortable and we
Speaker 1: got got to come up. But I'm looking at all
Speaker 1: the new artists and ship and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I never been thought. You know what's funny. I used
Speaker 1: to spend on the T shirts and child show. Yeah
Speaker 1: halfway around, and they're gonna buy the motherfucker's. They're gonna
Speaker 1: buy them Motherfucker's's what I'm saying. And heat and Greece
Speaker 1: people on the make the meeting Greece people wasn't doing
Speaker 1: that like the Tech nine of Strange because they was
Speaker 1: doing that when everybody was down there was up. Tell
Speaker 1: everything meet and Greece and they'll pay me for me agree.
Speaker 1: I always dr get down there. I always felt like
Speaker 1: I was jerking the fast. I didn't realize the fans
Speaker 1: of jerking meat. I didn't realize I was supposed to
Speaker 1: take that shot like like like old new artists do
Speaker 1: it really again, there's another eight team, you know, and
Speaker 1: they go out, they meet these kids, they have somebody
Speaker 1: come in, have to take a pair of chup and
Speaker 1: then send them out. That's it. And nobody's saying that.
Speaker 1: Holly wasn't nobody They're like, no, this is a part
Speaker 1: of the everyday coaches and that's what they do. They
Speaker 1: want to pull up on you just yea and a
Speaker 1: lot of you know what I do. I do this
Speaker 1: all the time. I just did want me and yeah,
Speaker 1: and a lot of sometimes just producers. They just got
Speaker 1: they got they got the little flash drive on them
Speaker 1: and they want to hand it to you to network works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they know you can have your team there like you
Speaker 1: saying I'm wronging without all these niggasy these things. They
Speaker 1: like you. I'm trying to get Penny. This beat hard,
Speaker 1: but I got this brand. I want pause. They're paying
Speaker 1: for that. That's what they pay for, the investing themselves
Speaker 1: to have that opportunity. And you might be lucky and
Speaker 1: find the next and the nigga like me. Like I said,
Speaker 1: the nigga like me. I'm in I'm I'm inna, I'm
Speaker 1: in the dirt, I'm in the mud. With this ship,
Speaker 1: I like to connect with the fans and connect with
Speaker 1: the you know what I'm saying, the people who really
Speaker 1: champion and ship. You know what I'm saying, Like these
Speaker 1: people meet me, they'd be like yo, I was. I
Speaker 1: was working with you in two seventeen and Andy and
Speaker 1: they took this ride with you know what it's like.
Speaker 1: It's like we share this ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But they've seen the ship for every for every moment
Speaker 1: because we were your music. They said that you got
Speaker 1: the first. Yeah, I dropped my first. I dropped like
Speaker 1: I just dropped ten to talk for in motherfucking March eleventh, right,
Speaker 1: I dropped ten to talk to and August two thousand five.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I'm got it wrong.
Speaker 1: Musicly got it wrong. They got that they got it
Speaker 1: sucked up, if that's what they say. They got that
Speaker 1: ship all fucked up. Yeah, stop talking to Google, man,
Speaker 1: but we're about to ship. We've been man the ship.
Speaker 1: Let me not your mixtape Larry Jacks mixtape error. We've
Speaker 1: been doing this ship. So it's like to make it
Speaker 1: to this point. You know, it means a different thing
Speaker 1: to us. That's why we carry the way we carry.
Speaker 1: You know, what's the best mixtape arrab I set any
Speaker 1: time my artist, mix tape artists, mixtape artists, mixtape be
Speaker 1: be correct to how you say, what's this? What I'm missing?
Speaker 1: Somebody who a little way? No, but you say mixtape
Speaker 1: a little way. The artist he goes so hard because
Speaker 1: who is it's g unit set? What about it? Early too?
Speaker 1: But about the thing, That's what I'm said, artists, okay,
Speaker 1: who else? I can't believe it. I'm forgetting He skipped
Speaker 1: the classic classic Instagram the other artist hold on home
Speaker 1: because uh hold on, let me do it. There was
Speaker 1: a classic material is He just posted a thought it
Speaker 1: was a great he said, say said g unit Yes,
Speaker 1: trying to think of whose trying to collectives that the
Speaker 1: mix tapes, there's not many. No, no, you can't bring
Speaker 1: a classic materials ship Wayne Wayne Wayne mixed him the
Speaker 1: fifty To me, that was like the artist mix tape era,
Speaker 1: it's dip set. Definitely the dips that definitely not me
Speaker 1: being from where I'm from. The dips that crazy, that's saying.
Speaker 1: Joel said, of course, what's your favorite mixed tap? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But we're bout to take a shot for this, even
Speaker 1: though quick time Star, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: like like I said, I'm taking a ship that like
Speaker 1: that was personable to me, like hearing hearing Juel Santana
Speaker 1: human cracking the flesh, knowing me and him was around
Speaker 1: the same age. That that made me feel some type
Speaker 1: of weight. You know what I'm saying, Like, damn I
Speaker 1: could do this, that should was that that ship struck
Speaker 1: the definitely we're fucking cheap, motherfucking Silverback and Thrillers ships,
Speaker 1: all of that ship funk with the dip ship fun
Speaker 1: with h All Bank ship, all Lloyd Bank ship. That's
Speaker 1: my nigga. But Haring Haring, Harring arolds go and knowing
Speaker 1: that he was around the same age, Yeah, seeing what
Speaker 1: he was doing, you know that, even motherfucking watching another
Speaker 1: bad creation back in the day, watching them, Yeah, seeing
Speaker 1: those boys my age a PC, Yeah, a PC. That
Speaker 1: mad niggas you want to do it like you watch
Speaker 1: people in your age that ship that ship crazy. He
Speaker 1: was their age when they was doing it. No, no,
Speaker 1: like when when another bad creation was on TV, there
Speaker 1: was kids. I was a kid. Yeah, it was age
Speaker 1: that seven years old, eight years Never thought you would
Speaker 1: ever say that, but that's crazy. Was watching a little
Speaker 1: backge like but that's but that's where's yeah, that's actually
Speaker 1: reached out. Yeah, yeah, alutly you know you know who
Speaker 1: I was. I like I forgot to like shout out
Speaker 1: and like be clear up because he was very much
Speaker 1: there for me. I needed a Chico to barge. Yes, Chico,
Speaker 1: I don't know where you at. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're doing, but please he was an album. He was
Speaker 1: on your first, He was on a yeah she goes
Speaker 1: really no listen. I worked through because I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the barge of jail and that's just love.
Speaker 1: That was like funk that. I want to work with
Speaker 1: the gangster one. So I'll reached out the checko. I'll
Speaker 1: reach outther Chico. He hen into the studio. We had
Speaker 1: a ball and I've actually never really like we've never
Speaker 1: really seen each other. This is this is my this
Speaker 1: is my saying. It's like yo, like you know, because
Speaker 1: it's it's it's people like that and I want you
Speaker 1: to always um to recognize it. It's there's certain people
Speaker 1: that's gonna funk with you, like you said that earlier.
Speaker 1: But there's certain people gonna suk with you because there's
Speaker 1: genuine love. And there's other people that's gonna sunk with
Speaker 1: you because you are the person to funk with, you're
Speaker 1: the person to stand next to, like you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta be clear who is who and who is who
Speaker 1: at what times because it's not therefore they are being
Speaker 1: who they're gonna be. I told you to be who
Speaker 1: you're gonna be, So you gotta know, like this, certain
Speaker 1: people that's gonna come, they ain't gonna want money, they
Speaker 1: ain't gonna want They're just gonna want the genuinely want
Speaker 1: you to win. That's one of that for new artists,
Speaker 1: that's one that like that. That's one of the biggest
Speaker 1: things of this ship. Just realize and who's who was
Speaker 1: or what and and how personal you taking. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I always want you to know that, because uh, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some real ones. But they might have the
Speaker 1: same approach as to faith one, right, they had the
Speaker 1: same as that, and they might say the same as
Speaker 1: that millions, Yo, I love you, I funk with you.
Speaker 1: You're a good one, you're a real one. But then
Speaker 1: it might be a fake person that comes. It does
Speaker 1: the same exactly generic greeting. It's going you to understand
Speaker 1: who is who it's not even when your friends, it's
Speaker 1: not even my homies. It's like, because you're gonna understand
Speaker 1: that handshake, you know when you get a good handshake
Speaker 1: and you know we're just something funny about it, and
Speaker 1: there's something like and because this is a. This is
Speaker 1: a beautiful, sick, foul fuck up gain. Usually when you
Speaker 1: don't that favorite for niggas, that's when who they that's
Speaker 1: when they turned into what they what they really are like.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna hang around this niggaun til I
Speaker 1: can I can get a that's this nigga sing the
Speaker 1: energy change And I'm saying, time is everything, man, real ship. No,
Speaker 1: you didn't say before we get a about that, I ain't.
Speaker 1: I want to say I'm one of the top niggas
Speaker 1: in this ship. I thought I thought we were clear
Speaker 1: on that. You know, after after my catalog for the
Speaker 1: people who know, I'm saying, after you go back and
Speaker 1: look at that ship, you go back and look at
Speaker 1: what I've been through, and then we seldom what we did.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying I'm one of the top niggas in
Speaker 1: this ship. And to be honest with you, not because
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or not because I'm the best rapper,
Speaker 1: but it's because I'm like niggas who can wrap just
Speaker 1: as good as me or better than me. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: cooler than the niggas. I'm more authentic than them niggas,
Speaker 1: and that plays a part. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and for all of those reasons, I'm I'm who I am,
Speaker 1: and we like that. I'm gonna take you something or
Speaker 1: I saw you this debut at depth. Jim again, I
Speaker 1: know you ain't taking this for granted, and I know
Speaker 1: I know you ain't. I know you ain't a slap,
Speaker 1: I know. But for us, for people who came from
Speaker 1: came from the generation, we need you to go all
Speaker 1: the like this right here, Look look at it right here.
Speaker 1: You're giving us a smell and I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I want you to read this. Put your season right there.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying like like that, yes, like that,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for this burden on your back, but we
Speaker 1: need you call out. We need you to take this
Speaker 1: ship real because you represent all of us at this table.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, hip hop, you represent lyricism that has
Speaker 1: been dying in this culture. You represent culture has been
Speaker 1: dying in this culture. You represent all of that. And
Speaker 1: I say that just saying we got your back, but
Speaker 1: don't the slack of a moment, not even a little second.
Speaker 1: Because the people who hate all coaches, that people hate
Speaker 1: lyric system and people who hate feel it music when
Speaker 1: you could feel it in your soul. Those people hate it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be to nothing. One ship right right outside,
Speaker 1: and that's what I want. These other rap rap niggas
Speaker 1: and know, like you know this this in no right here.
Speaker 1: You see what he's saying to me. It's like these
Speaker 1: niggas don't got that pressure of the legends like carry
Speaker 1: this ship. These niggs it's really nilly doing what they're doing.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Pressure comes with that when
Speaker 1: when you bump? When when when this niggas say that,
Speaker 1: when the nigga like kids say that, nigga's like, y'all,
Speaker 1: you know what that means? That's the standard. How many
Speaker 1: niggas you say, these niggas stand like you're saying, yea,
Speaker 1: so exactly so so we understand what that me. I
Speaker 1: understand what that. You understand your side. We don't carry
Speaker 1: We're gonna carry Harry tupman Um you said carry Trump.
Speaker 1: I love it, man, I love I love the fact.
Speaker 1: So what the producers that you ain't work with yet
Speaker 1: that you would like to work I need to work
Speaker 1: with for real, Definitely, I want to work with he
Speaker 1: ain't Definitely I want to work You never got nothing,
Speaker 1: do nothing, oh ship nothing. It was just good for Timberland. Uh,
Speaker 1: motherfucking just everybody who got some dope ship everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, like I gotta get ship in with the legends.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm I'm the y'all told I told you,
Speaker 1: so bring my name up when y're arguing with these niggers.
Speaker 1: We do bring my name up. You later been to
Speaker 1: do and that you can see it on drink. Always
Speaker 1: keep that energy, yes, because I mean that's that's that's
Speaker 1: really it man. It's um you know, um, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ended with this. Let me start with you happy, my friend.
Speaker 1: I don't love the music. No, that's ill. Never, not once,
Speaker 1: never about you. Never my dog can say that, motherfucker's
Speaker 1: a good life. Life life. You know what, maybe I
Speaker 1: should have asked this question different. I know what I
Speaker 1: felt out of love with the music business. For the game,
Speaker 1: I can say for me a million percent, that is
Speaker 1: an easier I think everybody goes through situations, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But the games, the game was the
Speaker 1: game before we got into it, right, talk that ship,
Speaker 1: that ship, like like I said, it goes back to
Speaker 1: what you negotiate, right, you know, I can't you can't
Speaker 1: live in the world. Well I should have got this,
Speaker 1: I should have got that, or getting what you negotiate?
Speaker 1: Why you know what I mean? So, but to answer
Speaker 1: a question, nah, not even the game. I can't think
Speaker 1: that's why I felt a love without the music music,
Speaker 1: that that's why I worried the question bro music, I
Speaker 1: don't think I've never falled of love with music thing,
Speaker 1: but the business business. The more I learned, the more
Speaker 1: I was like, why am I even fall right? Like
Speaker 1: this is the worst long one you could ever get.
Speaker 1: What I tell the nas, it's like just because you
Speaker 1: got the talent or just because you got whatever, like
Speaker 1: this might not even be for you. This ain't sabody
Speaker 1: I'm saying, this ain't for everybody. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: even like I said, like from being here, like I
Speaker 1: see like why the niggas who who was dope? Who not? What?
Speaker 1: Ain't you know what I'm saying because it wasn't for them?
Speaker 1: And from being an artist, I don't even I don't
Speaker 1: even share that because I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: the ship that I go through on my little level
Speaker 1: that these niggas, it's hard to deal with this dumb
Speaker 1: with this dumb ship because like every generation gets up,
Speaker 1: gets a ball, they get a little bit further and
Speaker 1: us as ogs have to salute that. The problem is
Speaker 1: the young homies probably donna salute the ogs back. But
Speaker 1: this is why I want to make it even. But
Speaker 1: um so, so I want you to finish. Actually, so
Speaker 1: you have fell of luck you felt I don't business
Speaker 1: or tell six okas playing that um having to have
Speaker 1: a little man to go between you and the fans
Speaker 1: that don't little understand what both sides of the table
Speaker 1: before talking about that's kind of difficult. Yes, what I'm
Speaker 1: saying no, because we I mean we have an agree
Speaker 1: with our facts. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: have a gread. I know what I was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When people man in between
Speaker 1: that's trying to you know, it's kind of frustrating. No,
Speaker 1: it's a need a better word, it frustrated. And hand
Speaker 1: you it's your first major release. But have you eppen
Speaker 1: like when you really understood the business or starting to
Speaker 1: understand the business, have you said, yo, man, this is
Speaker 1: this is a whack ship. Hell yeah, little ship, that's
Speaker 1: what I understand. I'm like, damn, this this is some
Speaker 1: bullllshit because even when I see it, I was so
Speaker 1: caught way on the Breakers club he said. He said,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much the same thing. It's like signing to
Speaker 1: with Shady wasn't all that he he told us cracked
Speaker 1: up to be. And it made me. It made me think, like, damn,
Speaker 1: so many people think that when you signed to the
Speaker 1: lately supposed to get an eminem birds right to be
Speaker 1: the team they're trying to dream, cha's supposed to get
Speaker 1: the normy to you, like you're not actually actually have to.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm that from that situation that Okay,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna give you ship right. They just can't give
Speaker 1: you select things and you need to fill in the blaze.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm learned, Like, damn this, this ship
Speaker 1: ain't cracked and this ain't what the people think. And
Speaker 1: you and sometimes we we feel like we're held under
Speaker 1: under the people, uh what they think what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But they don't know. They don't know ship, Like the
Speaker 1: fans don't know ship. Let's talk about that. They don't
Speaker 1: need but they think they know because they don't know
Speaker 1: what they don't just seeing how many fans be telling
Speaker 1: me we know what you did and they also know you.
Speaker 1: That's like the most disrespect thing you could say. You
Speaker 1: don't nominy, you be. I don't work hard like I
Speaker 1: don't work like none of this ship like this ship
Speaker 1: like you don't see none of this. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They don't know ship like like a big thing. But
Speaker 1: I hear fans say it's like, yeah, this nigga, this
Speaker 1: nigga work for rock Nation. Yeah, nigg your your boss,
Speaker 1: you work for rock Nation. Jesus, that's what That's what
Speaker 1: they say when that's what they say when they're trying
Speaker 1: to degrade me. Jesus, that man, that's what your management.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You pay your management work
Speaker 1: for you exactly. They don't understand it, but that's what
Speaker 1: they say when they're trying to degrade you. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like this should you're crazy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that was That was passive aggressive ship. Being down
Speaker 1: with Violator. Violator was like that too, Like if you
Speaker 1: was down with Violator when you out there on rock Nations,
Speaker 1: your luminati too. Yes, I've got that. I got they
Speaker 1: always thought that you used that with Violator, he was
Speaker 1: down on a lutleminati. But that was not the truth. Baby.
Speaker 1: Chris was a great fucking person. He was He single
Speaker 1: handedly knew how to hustle. So it made it look
Speaker 1: like it. But I'm gonna tell you something. I will
Speaker 1: tell you something that said this morning, Metal called me
Speaker 1: and that's my guy, and I said, you know he was.
Speaker 1: He was just saying, it's mentioning something about rock Nation,
Speaker 1: And I said, rock Nation is the best management. But
Speaker 1: if you ain't doing nothing, they can't do nothing for you.
Speaker 1: That's for any really really like if if you just
Speaker 1: not lit, they can't get your listen, listen, real ship though.
Speaker 1: Who want to be at rock Nation? Not hustling? Not hustling?
Speaker 1: Who want to be over there like you, you know,
Speaker 1: like the big dog get to see the sheet? Yes,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Who bringing it away? Who?
Speaker 1: Who want to be over there? Not hustling? That's how
Speaker 1: I look at it, real talk, real talk, because I
Speaker 1: mean that's what it was like in Violator. We alls violated, right,
Speaker 1: That's what it was about. Its violated. It's saying I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep you litting and I'm gonna get you, but
Speaker 1: you got to go out and do it. Once you
Speaker 1: do it, and that's I feel like rock Nation is.
Speaker 1: I feel like that. Um, what's the purpose of being
Speaker 1: in the industry right now? What's your favorite? I'm actually
Speaker 1: about performing and um, I'll making the music. But what's
Speaker 1: your favorite overwall being in the music industry. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. And it's just sounds cliche, but I'm thirty
Speaker 1: seven years old. I'm I'm an older nigga. Like it's
Speaker 1: being accepted amongst my peers. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's that's still one of my ships.
Speaker 1: Nig It's like you hold smooth crazy. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, let's be real here. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like listen all y'all nigga, So that that's
Speaker 1: just let me know I'm on the right path. I'm
Speaker 1: saying when I look at the round table and to
Speaker 1: see to see wuel around me and see and see
Speaker 1: what's going on. So ship like that. That's a fire answer. Man,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what on the low. It's an eyest
Speaker 1: answer because like I said earlier, we all wanted to
Speaker 1: be recognized by the generation that I know you got.
Speaker 1: You got the only reason man, Like, like one of
Speaker 1: my favorite rappers this Granddaddy are You? Nobody knows why
Speaker 1: because I don't sound like Grandaday, but back then that
Speaker 1: was that was the person that you love. You don't
Speaker 1: want to sound like him. I don't know. So a
Speaker 1: lot of people always say, I see the grant is
Speaker 1: my favorite rapping Like nick I can't hear Granddaddy are You?
Speaker 1: And you had on but he said a line changed
Speaker 1: my life. He said he knew a girl named Kenya
Speaker 1: from West Virginia, and boy would he liked to stick
Speaker 1: something in it. I said, I want to do whatever
Speaker 1: that need. I don't know what that ship were right there,
Speaker 1: but that ship had me go. So I say that
Speaker 1: to say it's the same thing, right, Like I want
Speaker 1: to give this culture back so much love. This culture
Speaker 1: has actually saved my life to three times. Like I
Speaker 1: literally I am hip hop's child. I'm literally I'm forty
Speaker 1: four years old. I think hip hop is forty six
Speaker 1: or seven, So that means I listened to hip hop
Speaker 1: my struggle Like I know this because if you cut
Speaker 1: me hip hop coming out. I love this coach I love,
Speaker 1: So this is when my when I get to give
Speaker 1: love back. It so that answered I say. I'm saying
Speaker 1: this to say that answer you just said. It's not
Speaker 1: Howard answered that question, but it's Howard adds up life.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's how I asked a
Speaker 1: life because I probably ought the seventh grade. I'm dyslexic.
Speaker 1: There's no way I'm supposed to make money of her words.
Speaker 1: I'm not real ship. You should an industry that ship
Speaker 1: a factory. Yeah, just thinking about it, I'm this selexic
Speaker 1: and I dropped out of the seventh grade, so words
Speaker 1: is supposed to be the last thing I make money from.
Speaker 1: It picked you and I got a chance to rhyme
Speaker 1: in front of the world. I got a chance to
Speaker 1: perform and word, I've traveled the world seven times. It's
Speaker 1: pretty real talk. And I took it for granted. I
Speaker 1: used to complain about being in Paris. This man I
Speaker 1: want to before my club Speed Nigga ain't parents at
Speaker 1: the time they went performing. You'd off Germany. Mhm. Sorry
Speaker 1: to say the sugget, but it wasn'tuntil I met my wife,
Speaker 1: and my wife said, you ain't never gonna get playing
Speaker 1: about being in Paris again. You're gonna enjoy this, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: We're going to the ching tower all that, getting the lock.
Speaker 1: We're gonna lock Jork. I had to had to make
Speaker 1: a lot of just real sucker. Ship. We put a
Speaker 1: lock They don't know if a lock ridge, I mean
Speaker 1: by myself ridge. You know rid you want your lady
Speaker 1: take a lot, You take a lot and you put
Speaker 1: it on a lock bridge, and you lock it on
Speaker 1: the lock bridge. Do you take the key to it
Speaker 1: and you throw this ship at the bottom of the ship,
Speaker 1: and it's supposed to be just as long as that
Speaker 1: lock state you want your lady supposed to be together. Whatever.
Speaker 1: This is the most sucker. I did it. I did it.
Speaker 1: I went I did not. I mean, let me let
Speaker 1: me cat. I want to go home. And so I
Speaker 1: didn't understand it until I came home and people we
Speaker 1: had the pictures of it, and people like Mabe you
Speaker 1: were dot careers like yo, what the your toast talking about?
Speaker 1: Bridge for? You know what I'm saying. And I will realize.
Speaker 1: And then my mother called me and I'm beating with
Speaker 1: the promoters. Promotor put me in a hotel where I'm
Speaker 1: on the seventh floor and my DJs on the fourth floor,
Speaker 1: and we're talking to each other. I'm like, yo, boy,
Speaker 1: you're like what over there? Hard? My mother called me
Speaker 1: and my mother said, your phone is ringing, funny baby,
Speaker 1: I said, Mom, I'm in Paris. My mother said, I
Speaker 1: give my left leg to be in Paris. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: am complaining be in Hollywood. Ship And then I started
Speaker 1: to enjoy life. I started to do that. And this
Speaker 1: is what hip hop gives you. This is what hip
Speaker 1: hop gives you. Hipop makes your vacation home Paris. And yeah,
Speaker 1: and you could you can? You could? You can say
Speaker 1: no and not accept that love, or you can accept
Speaker 1: the love. So I say that to say thank you
Speaker 1: to my wife. I know she's not here. I'm not
Speaker 1: in the doghouse, guys, I'm not in the dog because
Speaker 1: actually we're actually on the great level. But I remember,
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for her, I was looking at it
Speaker 1: as if I wasn't performing in the tunnel. I wasn't
Speaker 1: performing in club speed, I wasn't performing in Copa Cabama,
Speaker 1: I wasn't performing in uh Latin quarters. So I was
Speaker 1: I was hated because because you get a time where
Speaker 1: America's gonna cut you off. America's gonna say, nope, you
Speaker 1: won fifty Nope, nope. But guess what, But go to Europe.
Speaker 1: They're still love eros. Give it, but don't be like
Speaker 1: mean me. I was like this, and I was, I was,
Speaker 1: I'm going over there for the first time the next month.
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing for the first time. Guys globed
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you we're going to Paris. Who We're
Speaker 1: gonna fucking Amsterdam? I forgot what else You're going got
Speaker 1: some other ship and I'll tell you another thing. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you another thing. Um Nas made this album called
Speaker 1: hip Hop? Was that? And when he made that album,
Speaker 1: that's what When I was touring Europe, and that was
Speaker 1: the only thing I ever said the nas, I said,
Speaker 1: it's not that it's in Europe. They still break dance
Speaker 1: out there, they still write a FEEDI out there. They
Speaker 1: still they actually still have the five elements of his
Speaker 1: back and respected and respect more than anything. So I
Speaker 1: can't wait for you to go yeah, I can't wait
Speaker 1: for you to continue to do your dude what you're doing,
Speaker 1: because I know I said a fifteen million times, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say fifteen million more. You make Niggers like
Speaker 1: us proud. We want you to keep the cult alive
Speaker 1: exactly how you're doing it, the way y'all doing it
Speaker 1: with the super dope lyrics, filling music. Um, if you
Speaker 1: was to ask me what could I if you was
Speaker 1: to ask me right now, what could you do better
Speaker 1: than you're already doing, I would say no comment because
Speaker 1: I feel like you're doing everything right. And I want
Speaker 1: to tell you that to your face as a man,
Speaker 1: because that ship makes me real, proud, makes me real.
Speaker 1: Case in any case, you know now no other legend
Speaker 1: or o G or whatever you want to call off
Speaker 1: that she never said that to your face. I want
Speaker 1: to say it. And I don't want to say to
Speaker 1: your face behind the scene, classid, to your facebox. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it's to your face in front this beautiful
Speaker 1: show that I built that was keeping legends alive and
Speaker 1: keeping people who belong to this culture, giving them a platform,
Speaker 1: giving them a voice to say. And I have to
Speaker 1: say it in front of those cameras the same way
Speaker 1: I said it to you off the cameras. And we
Speaker 1: really appreciate you. We we are hip. Hoper got your back.
Speaker 1: I love it hip hop got I want to before
Speaker 1: we get up out of here, because UM, I feel
Speaker 1: like you've got something to say to the people. Is
Speaker 1: there is there anything you want to leave them with? Flash?
Speaker 1: Just you know what I mean, Like we we gotta
Speaker 1: we got a lot to bring to this ship. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Griselda the Black Supremo Family drum Works, we got a
Speaker 1: lot to bring to the ship, and ship just gonna
Speaker 1: get greater later we've been we've been on ascension for
Speaker 1: five years. What I'm saying, we're gonna keep doing that
Speaker 1: as long as we're moving forward, as long as if
Speaker 1: this the collective is getting bigger. And I'm saying I
Speaker 1: just hit uh number twenty two and the billboards that
Speaker 1: was our that was a result as big as ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. As long as we're moving
Speaker 1: in directions like that. So of course with the depth gym,
Speaker 1: ship we're reaching for hire. Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So just ship like that, we're just gonna we're just
Speaker 1: gonna expand this ship that I think, UM, what's my
Speaker 1: man name that I took over the president ship to? Um?
Speaker 1: I see him touchy the day that he took over
Speaker 1: the presidency. I took a picture of he took a picture.
Speaker 1: He was like, because they had a secret depth playing party.
Speaker 1: I was I wasn't invited by the way I had
Speaker 1: like went to the wrong door, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: ship did we took a picture? And I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna do right. I think he understands the coach. I
Speaker 1: heard a number of good things about it. I listened.
Speaker 1: Guy's a great guy. But I think he understands the
Speaker 1: cold kill. And I think that's what everyone wants to
Speaker 1: do is do right by hip hop exactly the basic
Speaker 1: access of hip hop, which means exactly so. So when
Speaker 1: the label like Devil Jim seek out a person like me,
Speaker 1: you already know that, you already know the intent. I
Speaker 1: can respect that. What I'm saying, I can respect that.
Speaker 1: And let me let me before we get about here.
Speaker 1: How was it? Snooper? Snoop called you direct and said, yo,
Speaker 1: did you just say it earlier? But how was that issue?
Speaker 1: First call? What where was you at? How to Snoop
Speaker 1: get your number? I went, I want to go how
Speaker 1: oh he was at the studio? Okay, what I'm saying
Speaker 1: he was at the studio in New York City. Okay,
Speaker 1: when I went there, I can't remember the studio, but
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a dev jam studio. And Snoop
Speaker 1: told us this story. And I went to the studio.
Speaker 1: He had to beat playing and I already know, like
Speaker 1: I'm like, I killed his beat, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like he he ended up asking me to
Speaker 1: rap over the beat, and I wrapped over the beat
Speaker 1: and that's she told the album of the album. And
Speaker 1: it's like he you bost up and kiss basically like Snoopy.
Speaker 1: He he like told me he got me on the
Speaker 1: phone with jeffre Houston. H what I'm saying where me
Speaker 1: and Jeff, like you know what I'm saying, discussed the terms.
Speaker 1: Uh you know what I'm saying. Uh what was on
Speaker 1: my mind? You know what I'm saying because I never
Speaker 1: got that, you know, Jeff, I guess through my managers.
Speaker 1: I was talking through somebody and he was talking through whoever.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying. So we just talked about it,
Speaker 1: and you know it's crazy. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: They don't. I hope I ain't saying that wrong, but
Speaker 1: they don't like when I say this ship cool. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's just like and that it's they don't
Speaker 1: like when you give, when you just say what we're
Speaker 1: really went on? No, I don't don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think you're incorrected when it says that. I think
Speaker 1: they just want to seem like the bigger person. As
Speaker 1: long as your big good moment in the story, it's good.
Speaker 1: But let me just say something. The reason why I
Speaker 1: snoop is a perfect Sometimes it happens like that. Sometimes
Speaker 1: out of Town's got a show. Yeah it's New York
Speaker 1: is how many I don't think it's a town thing.
Speaker 1: It's a hip hop thing. It's really like and it's
Speaker 1: really like a a transparency thing with me because I'm
Speaker 1: not motherfucking jay z or Liar Cohen or Steve stouting
Speaker 1: him nigga, I'm who I am. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know the business. And then out like that. So I
Speaker 1: funk with what makes me feel comfortable first and foremost.
Speaker 1: Then table with the shot that you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm done. Take a shot. It's the last one. It's
Speaker 1: the last. What is it? This is it? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? One more that's it Yo, man, Benny,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm very proud of you when he
Speaker 1: continue to do what you're doing. Uh are you're keeping
Speaker 1: the legacy alive, keeping the form real hip hop alive.
Speaker 1: We want to say we respect, We should lout that.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming. We got the legends, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. This is a lot of okay, you
Speaker 1: want this back right because I'm like, you're not. I
Speaker 1: hope this wasn't brot because I'm taking from our own table.
Speaker 1: That's what That's what school to us the other day
Speaker 1: in the game, everything like all right, So we got
Speaker 1: a matter. So y'all to Darren, ded Benny, to Butcher,
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