WEBVTT - Have You Got Game? 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.560 Hey, everybody, welcome to I Do Part two. If you 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.360 got love right the first time around, this is not 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.520 the podcast for you. We are here for the folks 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:28.160 who didn't get it right the first time. And maybe 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.600 you're on your second, go around, third, go around, fourth, 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.239 whatever it may be. But this is the place and 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.440 we are trying to help you find love again and 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.000 maybe again. And I'm here and I can't and ladies, 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.160 I have to say it, Jonna Kramer and Jenny Garth, 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.040 I have. This has been an absolute pleasure. When we 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.480 launched this, we were going to all do this together 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.760 as hosts. I didn't think I'd get a chance to 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:50.280 be actually in the room as much with you as 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:51.720 I have. So this has been fun. So it was 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.320 good to be here in La with you all in 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.600 this room as we were about to go party tonight. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:58.040 That's the plan. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.680 That is the plan. Y very excited. This is so funny. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.440 It was fun to be in the room though, because 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.920 a lot of times it's over zoom all these podcasts 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.320 that we do, so it's nice to actually give hugs 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:11.479 and the whole thing. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.199 We are here now, we haven't We're not the only 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.640 one of the four of us here are sitting at 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.600 Mike's and the fourth person is the only one who 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.520 showed up dressed with the occasion. H he's one of 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:24.759 our celebrity. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:29.320 She's a model. You know, she's always showing like ready 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:29.480 to go. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.039 I would do. 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.399 Nothing less, truly, nothing less. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.560 But she's been one of our celebrity mentors. How has 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.399 this experience been for you? You we chatted with you 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.160 in New York not too long ago for an episode 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:43.960 and that was a blast. But since then, how have 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:44.840 things been going? 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.560 It's been so incredible, Like this podcast couple with therapy 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.960 has been so unbelievably therapeutic, and I've changed so much 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.520 as a human. I just I think that my solo 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.720 was just so it was you know, I was I 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.040 deep into something that I probably wouldn't have thought about 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.720 or even had the courage to talk about, and manifesting 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.920 the man of my dreams, which was so great, and 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:11.480 writing a love letter to him. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.000 Which was like, oh my god, I'm getting emotional. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.679 It's been very very cathartic for me, and just it's 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.120 also just nice to be around a community where people 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.040 like understand like what I'm talking about and what I'm 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.480 going through that makes it even better for me. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.080 So I've just been like, it's like a big hug. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.480 Can I just ask a question because I just have 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.720 to Has anyone slid into your DMS? 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.919 Yes, yes, I've met a lot of really nice. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.280 No, I mean like nice men. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.160 Okay, yeah, so like good people. 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.280 It's like not like a sliding. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.560 In anybody of interest. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:44.040 Yeah. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.280 Yes, I've met like two really nice guys who were great. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.040 One is younger, one is like around my age, and 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.160 they've just been really That's also been something else that's 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.320 been different is that the way that I'm approaching dating 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.680 is so different than before. Before I would just be 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.360 like just you know, oh okay, he likes me, Okay, 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.120 all datum. But also I have two young kids and 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.519 a single parent. Like so like dating for me was 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.519 always a little bit like how am I going to 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.440 do this? I don't want to get involved. I don't 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.680 want to get I don't want to be emotionally available 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.760 to them because I don't know what, you know, what's 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.760 going to happen tomorrow, what are we going to be doing? 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.000 And so it's just nice to really be like more 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.480 settled and just like calmer and more relaxed. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:24.760 Joy see more relaxed. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.320 You take how do you are you beginning? Are you 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:30.200 trying to decide between the two? 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.800 Now, I'm not really trying to decide. I'm just open to. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:40.320 Okay, it's more intentional, much more intentional. 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:41.400 It's great, and. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.480 Tonight is going to be very intentional. We are out 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.480 together because of the iHeart jingle Ball place and part 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.240 of this, we have two two folks we've been helped 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.320 helping guide along on this podcast that reached out to us, 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.040 and they're going to be out here. You're going to 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.240 actually coach, teach, help Then tonight as they. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.320 Go out, Wait, wait, what is she helping them with? 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.720 She's going to help them flirt? 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:05.080 Okay? 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:05.680 Done? 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:11.200 Really now you seemed confident. Are you a good flirt? Whoa? 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:13.400 No pause, no pause. 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.200 Zero pause, Like just yes, what makes you? 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:16.920 I was like, what makes you? 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:17.240 Yeah? 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:19.760 Just because I don't really flirt. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.400 I'm just kind of chatty, lots of smiles, very engaging. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.520 I asked a lot of questions, how are you a 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.200 great compliments? 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:28.680 Yeah? 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:30.960 Yeah, yeah, okay, see I feel like I see I'm good. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.080 I'm I'm a bad I think I'm a bad flirter 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.800 when I'm actually wanting to flirt with someone, and I 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.160 think I'm better for other people. So that's why I'm 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.080 excited to I like to help other people flirt when 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.200 it comes to me. Actually, Like I remember seeing this 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.800 one guy at a bar a couple years ago, and 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.160 my girlfriend's like, go talk to him. I was like, 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.599 absolutely not, I will not, I will. 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:52.919 And she's like no, let's go come on. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.800 I'm like, I'm like, Sarah, please stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.320 Sarah please. I ran down the stairs. I was like, 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.040 it was so uncomfortable, Like if he wants to talk 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:00.720 to me, he can come talk me. I just I 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.360 was so uncomfortable, couldn't do it. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:03.960 Oh, how that story end? 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.040 She ran downstairs and my friend Sarah, my friend Sarah 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.200 went to go talk to him, and she's like he 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.160 had a girlfriend, and now was it was a story. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:11.960 End of story. 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:13.880 Sorry, But I just think I'm a better wing woman 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:15.160 than ever for myself. 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.160 So this is that's why I'm going to be good 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.839 with that too, because I'm like that as well. I'm 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.320 good at like helping her friend. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.240 You were you a good back in the day. 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:27.720 Oh I had some game, did you. Yes, I'm going 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.480 to tell you about him. But this episode is going 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.280 to be all about who has the game. We want 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.160 to hear about your game. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.120 Yes, what you said, you were both of you all 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.479 very confidently said you have game. And this is what 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.120 this is about this particular episode. What is it for 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.440 you that you just said, Yep, I knew how to blurt. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:47.080 I had game. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:52.719 I just I'm confident in you know, I know how 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.200 to work it if I want off. I'm the kind 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:57.800 of person if I want something, I go get it. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.560 And there's a lot out there that I don't want. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:05.719 So when I do find something that I'm interested in, lookout. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:06.839 Yeah. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.640 What do you all say to women? Because there's so 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.120 much advice out there that's telling women you have to 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.159 do this or try this technique, and it almost seems 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.640 like you need to be something maybe even you're not, 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.920 or try to manipulate a situation in some way. That's 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.720 the way the advice often comes. Do some people need 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:25.479 that type of advice and structure and technique and all 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:26.440 these things. Do you need that? 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.080 I think I think it's I think a little advice, 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.560 But I also think that it's kind of like when 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:33.479 some it's like some people tell you what to do 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.040 and then you do the opposite. So instead of like, 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.760 you know, like really like listening to people, like you know, 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.800 tonight we're going to talk to our new friends, and 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.480 I want to I want to know what they're interested 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.080 in so that when we go out there, I can 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.680 be like, Okay, go smile this person. Or I think 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.800 when you when you get advice, sometimes you're like, oh 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:51.120 my god. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:52.520 Am I doing it right? Am I doing it right? 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.480 You know that was an individual like it doesn't right 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:55.840 and wrong. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.400 I don't feel like, yeah, yeah, I'm more of like 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.919 the let it happen. If it's meant to manifest together, 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.360 then it'll you will meet the person and just let 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:04.760 it happen. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.040 It was not really gay in that respect. I'm with 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.480 you one hundred percent, but it seems like there's not 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.760 really game. I think a woman should just be confident. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.120 And smile and be open. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:18.960 I feel like that's so much easier said than done, though, 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:23.520 what the like, just be confident like I maybe that's 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.840 because I mean and now I feel like I'm more confident, 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.720 But back in like twenties and thirties, I was like 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.120 a mess because I was so not confident, and it's 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.400 it's so easy for somebody to be like, well, be confident. Well, 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.840 how can I be confident when I don't even know 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.040 who I am? Or I'm afraid this person's gonna hurt me, 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.000 or like you have all the stuff that you're still 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.200 trying to figure out as a human. So it's like, 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.080 I just feel like saying like, be confident is so 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.160 much easier said than done. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:53.040 With your friend, Sarah Yeap, what then was the right move? 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:54.760 How do you let a guy know you're interesting? 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.160 Well, so I was confident. I was more confident than 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.480 even though I was divorced. But I also knew what 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.280 I wanted and I didn't want to meet him. I 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.440 personally did not want to meet a guy in a bar. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:03.960 I just didn't. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.200 I didn't think that was going to be where I 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:06.840 was going to meet my person. So I didn't want 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.360 to force the situation. So that's where and I didn't 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:11.920 want to force it, you know, I didn't want if 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.960 he was not coming over and we didn't have the 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.440 lockeye thing, like I'm not I don't know, I just 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.680 I was like, this feels too young for me to 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:20.840 be doing this game where my girlfriend's going over there 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.000 and talk to him. It just feels uncomfortable. If I 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:24.720 want to go talk to him, I'll go talk to him. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.239 That's where I'm at now in my forties, right. But besides, 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.160 so now there's that confidence piece, but before you know, 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.120 I think it's and that's all I earned that through 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.360 the things that I've gone through. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.000 You will both married now. 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.679 Yeah, talking me about flirting is a little weird for 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.200 me because I've been married for forever, like to someone, right, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:43.920 I don't think there was a day I wasn't married 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.800 or pregnant or something. So flirting was a little weird 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.559 just talking about it. I'm like, I don't flirt anymore 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.319 unless it's with my husband, and I don't. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:51.640 Really do that. 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.480 But I mean I probably should do more than that. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.000 Maybe we should do an episode about that. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.920 How do you let a guy know that you if 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:08.920 you can go back to those. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:17.160 Eye contact, like you said, Kelly, a smile and a 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:21.520 friendly demeanor, and then you ignore them. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.400 So I ignored my husband for like three weeks, and 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.679 I think that's the only reason why he was the 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.640 first man that I've like dated that I ignored for 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.240 because I honestly didn't. I forgot to reply back to 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.440 him because I didn't have WhatsApp, so like I didn't 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.600 know he was texting me, but I would be like, oh, yeah, sorry, 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.680 I forgot that I had this WhatsApp thing, you know, 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:41.480 And then three weeks later I would text him again, 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.560 oh sorry. But I think my lack of yeah communication 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:50.440 was actually how he we hoped me, like how I 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:51.040 helped him. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.680 Or whatever you were playing the game without. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:53.960 I didn't even know. 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.600 I had no idea because but I was also like, eh, 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.480 like he lives there, Like what what's the Like he 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.520 was like, and how is that even going to work anyways? 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.120 Like well, you know what I mean, like whatever, but 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:04.960 then you know obviously then you go into it. So 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.679 I think again, it's like you're I wasn't that available? 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.680 Is everyone here? You will seem to not, but everybody 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.360 agree with that that strategy, if you will that let 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:16.200 them chase a little bit. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:21.720 I mean, yeah, what flirting techniques or just sure or 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:26.200 available women I did before, Yes, when. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.920 You were go back in like your thirties forties. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.040 Yeah, I was always certainly when I get over age 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.200 thirty thirty five forty, I mean we're just adults, Like 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.720 I'm a grown ass man. I have time to play 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.719 a game. If I'm interested, I will let you know, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:41.439 gon toy. If I want to talk to you, I 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.760 will text you. You don't respond, okay, and that's fine. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.439 I just don't. And I hate we keep saying game. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.360 I know we say when we mentioned that, but I 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:53.880 don't like the idea of grown ass folks messing around 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.200 and playing around. We don't have time. I can't tell 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.720 you exactly what I want. You can tell me and 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.160 that's it. That's okay, right. So I don't like a 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.199 never was a fan of any kind of chase or 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:04.920 trying to do. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.480 I think when I said ignore them, I was just 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.319 kind of joking because I'm with you, I've got a lot, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.040 I've got a lot to do. If this is going 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:14.760 to work out, let's make it work. If it's not, 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.679 move on. Like you know, I don't have a lot 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.240 of time to waste. I think that people don't need 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:19.920 to waste their time on the wrong people. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.880 I think also today in this era of social media, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.920 like everyone's either on their phone or they're connecting with 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:30.079 someone you know through social media, and you know, people 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.800 are like Hi, I'm like what does that mean? Like, 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:34.920 how about do you want to go get a drink? 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:35.240 Hi? 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.000 Hi, okay, Hi, Like I'm not your pen pal, you 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:40.320 know what I mean. Like, so it's like if you're 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.840 going to I guess. Like texting with intention is also 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.920 a good part of like the game, like obviously, you know, 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:48.560 like we were talking about like smiling, be happy, but 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.200 also like a little distant, but then texting with intention 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.280 like making it happen and making a date because how 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.000 do you know what these people are like until you 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.200 meet them. Yeah, And it's just hard too for like 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.560 a lot of you know, women and men alike, you know, 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.280 in their forties and fifties. Like if you're on like 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.439 Rya or any of these things, like most of these 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.880 people like on Raya, they're like, Hi, I'm in Melbourne. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:09.360 It's like that's nice for you, Like what do you 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:10.719 mean you're in Melbourne? 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:11.720 Like what does that mean? 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.040 That's geographically undesirable? Thank you? 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.360 Having said that, though I did meet my husband, he 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:25.120 was living in England, So I think you know a 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.720 little bit, you know, you got to like you open up, yeah, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.079 so you know, hey, you make a way if it's 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.600 worth it, that's right, that's right. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.880 Well, we talked before on another episode about the first 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.040 Date uniform. If you haven't listened to that episode, by 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:39.920 the way, you should. What do you think women should 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.280 wear when they're going out there and they're trying to 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:43.520 flirt with guys? 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.840 I personally always say less is more, don't do the 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.560 full hair and makeup thing. I every time I've gone 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.880 on a date, it's I do the minimal makeup because 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:54.640 I'm like, this is you're going to wake up with 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.160 even less than this, So putting on the full face 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.720 like I would never do this or anything like that 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.199 I have on right now. It's it's very because I 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.480 don't wear makeup. I hate wearing life no infe don't 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.480 get her exactly for racist who I am, and I don't. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.520 Even when I met my husband, I didn't wear anything 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.240 like revealing like I had like on a sweater and 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.240 jeans and like a little boot and that was it. 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.400 It's like, this is what do you think, Kelly? 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.679 I mean, you're also dropped on gorgeous too, so. 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.280 Far that doesn't hurt. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.160 I totally think that less is more. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.000 Every single guy that's ever told me about like men 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:30.600 or now that because I've been talking to so many 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.400 people about like relationships there, they all see the same thing. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.680 Jeans and a T shirt. Oh I saw when she 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:37.280 was in jeans and. 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.480 A T shirt. Oh, she looks so cute in a hoodie. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.840 You know they guys, you tell us know what you're 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.240 saying is one hundred because that's I've always said that 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.360 if a woman can't put on jeans and a T shirt, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.400 belly up to a bar, have a draft beer and 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.400 watch an SEC football game with me, we're probably not 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.720 gonna work out. And it's not just about what she's wearing, 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.040 but there's a confidence in a woman who can just 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.000 put that on and it's cool with like, hey, let's 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.320 do it. It's just yeah, it sends a sick look 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.280 some kind. And even though you all are saying like 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.240 you didn't like make up, you know, like, do you 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.680 all think generally that's the case though I think women 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.600 go full help with makeup and hair well. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.520 But here's also the problem too, and this is I 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.280 talked to my ex husband about this because in the 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.400 dating world, like I'm like, how's you know, how's it going? 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.000 The women use too many filters. And I've actually stopped 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.880 doing filters because because my daughter, I'm like, I don't 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.360 want my daugh I'm like, why am I doing this 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.680 filter when this is not what my nose like looks like? 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.240 Or this is not what I look like. I wouldn't 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:28.920 want my daughter to do this. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.640 So I've completely stopped doing filters on like the story things. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.240 But he was saying, he's like women filter themselves so 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.640 much with their photos too, that when you meet them, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.200 you're like, that is not what they look like. So 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:40.960 also like present who you are? 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:42.240 I think I do that too. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.080 Do do they really do they do filter? 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.040 I heard from a lot of women friends. Oh, they 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.000 show up to dates and they don't look anything. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.120 Like well, I think they lie. The only time I've 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.040 ever was like cause they lie about their height. But 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.560 besides that, like what, I don't know, men filter their faces. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.720 You can tell it guys height by they're standing next 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.040 to us car kind. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:02.560 Of look and you gauge it. 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.920 Was and guys always have like a picture with their car. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.479 I was like, that is really good advice. Check that's amazing. 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.080 Is that the number one thing you will have found 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:14.960 that maybe that's the thing guys lie? But you still 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.840 about filters with the face or something, But is that 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.640 the thing guys will lie? About their height more than 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.240 anything on if you're online or I. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.320 Think that they just think it's like that that whole 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.200 age of tall, dark and handsome is like what women 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:25.640 are looking for. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.320 That's not true at all. I mean my ex husband was. 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:34.240 Short, great, curly hair like and French like. That's not tall, 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.160 dark and handsome. But it's just you know, you just 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:37.800 never know who you're gonna like or. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.360 You're gonna ye know. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.600 I'm trying to think with like the biggest lie. I mean, 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.240 I can think of a few, but like if. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:51.880 They're wearing a ball cap in every picture, which is 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:52.520 totally fine. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.320 I love we love four men. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.680 Who doesn't? But I think you're we have a point 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.720 like natural, comfortable in your own skin. It's the right 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:02.480 message to put out to people. 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.640 Do not wear a sequence truss not you look beautiful. 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.600 You just said I like to be understated, And now. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:20.200 It's h. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.480 How do you know when a guy is interested in you? 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.720 Is it clear? Is it obvious from across the room? 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.560 Do you do? We have a difficult time you all 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.360 have found giving the right signals. 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.480 I think from or from like when you first meet. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.120 Yeah, or before you even beat if you know that 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:47.840 person know you think that person interested in. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.960 You, you're flirting in the I think it's definitely the 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.440 eye contact. You know how they if they approach you. 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.080 I think that's a tell tell, tell tale sign. But 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.520 I think moving forward from that, the biggest thing that 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.440 I learned from my dating was there was a guy 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.800 that I was kind of chasten a little bit and 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.240 he seemed to like me and all those things and 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.000 say he liked me and we would hung out, but 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.199 he you know, I felt like I was pursuing him 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.160 more than he was pursuing me. And when I kind 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.120 of stopped, I'm like, oh, I didn't really hear from him. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.560 So I'm like, I think you will know like if 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.159