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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Hello and welcome back,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Straight Fired, Wednesday, January seven. Big night

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Speaker 1: in sports last night, No, it was not a big

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Speaker 1: night in sports. I spent a large portion of dinner

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Speaker 1: usually watching a NBA game, maybe an NFL game. We

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Speaker 1: spent a time at dinner talking about whether or not

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Speaker 1: we should get a dog, and the kids, of course

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Speaker 1: want a certain brand of dog, and my wife wants

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Speaker 1: a certain kind. That's where we are, as a failing

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Speaker 1: out football season ending. We're pivoting to the NBA. But

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Speaker 1: of course it was a slow Tuesday night in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to Bradley Beale, who had a moment there

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Speaker 1: on the bench Tuesday night. You're gonna see a lot

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Speaker 1: of it today. The highlight or should I say low

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Speaker 1: light of Bradley Beale just kind of rubbing his temples

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Speaker 1: pensively and frustratingly after Russell Westbrook and John Wall got

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Speaker 1: in a little Donnie Brooke there on the court. But

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that shortly. Um. Remember, boys and girls, subscribe,

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Speaker 1: rate and review. We're gonna punt on NFL talk to tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for some Matt Stafford stuff to come in.

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Speaker 1: No Deshaun Watson news as of now. Um, but you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a weird NBA thing that I've been seeing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you guys know how it works. NFL season drifts to

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Speaker 1: an end, people start to pay attention to college basketball,

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Speaker 1: people start to dive back into the NBA after what's

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Speaker 1: usually a big Christmas sport the NBA, And I just

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Speaker 1: I gotta confess I'm not I keep telling myself, Jason,

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Speaker 1: don't check your mentions on Twitter, Jason, don't always check

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Speaker 1: your Instagram d ms, Jason, definitely do not check your

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Speaker 1: Facebook messages. And I accidentally did that on Tuesday All

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Speaker 1: three And for some reason, the hate for Lebron and

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Speaker 1: the Lakers seems to be at an all time high.

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Speaker 1: And it's Wow, the more success Lebron James has, the

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Speaker 1: more hate and negativity he inspires. And I don't get that.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most bizarre things I've seen in

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Speaker 1: even people who don't like Tom Brady, right, why went

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Speaker 1: too much to Patriots? Cheat? Like everybody's watching this run

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Speaker 1: Brady has with the Bucks and they're in awe, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh. He leaves Belichick, goes to the NFC and

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Speaker 1: he's in the Super Bowl and he's forty three. This

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Speaker 1: guy Brady is incredible, even if you don't like him.

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Speaker 1: And you guys know me, I'm a Jets fan, not

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Speaker 1: hate on what Tom Brady is doing with the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible even and and this dovetails into a little

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Speaker 1: MLB Hall of Fame thing that I may or may

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Speaker 1: not touch on. I'm thinking back to Barry Bonds and

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Speaker 1: everybody just like Bonds, you know what rooted up and

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Speaker 1: still remember, man, Barry. You just can't picture this guy.

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Speaker 1: He's unstoppable. You would watch when Barry Bonds stepped to

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Speaker 1: the plate chasing Hankaron's record. It was just incredible. You

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Speaker 1: didn't really love it, but you had to watch. And

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Speaker 1: with Lebron, it's a little bit different because he's thirty six.

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Speaker 1: He's playing at an m v P and level. And

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Speaker 1: I know you guys did not see this, the Lebron

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Speaker 1: haters listening right now, But at a couple of sports

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Speaker 1: books Tuesday night. Right, remember Monday night he went for

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Speaker 1: forty six against the Cats. Tuesday night. I did notice

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Speaker 1: Lebron has quietly become the favorite in m VP odds

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Speaker 1: at a couple of sports books. Okay, he's thirty six,

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Speaker 1: and this was supposed to be the season Lebron takes off.

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Speaker 1: Remember they won the title in October. Okay, Lebron, Okay, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Lebron needs a coast. He needs to load manage like

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Speaker 1: Kauai and all these other guys, Joel emb they don't

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Speaker 1: do back to backs. Lebron just want our title in October,

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Speaker 1: shortest off season in NBA history. Lebron is not missed

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Speaker 1: a game. Me at this season, Lebron's averaging at thirty six,

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Speaker 1: yet the hate is flowing like molten lava. It's just flowing.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, Lebron, this that and the other. And I actually,

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Speaker 1: I said, I looked at my Facebook messages, and I

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Speaker 1: your ball washing, Lebron, Jason your gas and I'm upsetting

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Speaker 1: all this great stuff. He probatised six or seven or

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Speaker 1: Google because, um, you guys don't get Google. They sell

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Speaker 1: Lebron go to the Miami Heat two thousand and and

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Speaker 1: And you're seriously ten and a half years ago yelling

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Speaker 1: that's what people are angry about when it comes to Lebron.

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Speaker 1: That's why they don't like him. I mean really, ten

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Speaker 1: he won a couple of titles with the Heat, came

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Speaker 1: back from three one down to beat the seventy three,

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Speaker 1: fully healthy, wins a title like like and you're hung

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Speaker 1: up on Lebron saying he was gonna win not six, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean really, and then oh well, Lebron stacks his teams.

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, people, d m me me, Jason,

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Speaker 1: come on, how can you like Lebron? He stacks his tepo. Hello, McFly,

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Speaker 1: it's t one. Have you looked around the league. This

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Speaker 1: is the new NBA. Teams are stacked. This is what

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Speaker 1: you do to win. Don't blame Lebron. Danny Ainge started this.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to rehash the Lebron Jordan argument. But

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Speaker 1: Danny Ainge notice that Lebron was building a juggernaut and

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Speaker 1: becoming a behemoth in the East, and said, oh, he

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Speaker 1: just took the worst supporting cast in NBA history to

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Speaker 1: the finals. Yes, worse than what Alan Iverson took to

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Speaker 1: Ray Allen. So the Celtics any up? Then Lebron said, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure my Calves front office they're gonna get me

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Speaker 1: some help, right, and they get him like a wash

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Speaker 1: shack and Antoine Jamison, who was like, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: fact check me on that here shortly um and Lebron's like,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're getting me. I'm out, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: build my own team. That's what smart people do. People

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Speaker 1: come on. The hate for Lebron is just so bizarre.

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Speaker 1: ever understand it. It's so strange. In every sport, as

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Speaker 1: every sport NFL, Major League Baseball, NBA. But for whatever reason, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's no, no, no, come on, Michael Jordan. Nobody

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Speaker 1: touched on this. Last week. Shaquille O'Neil went after um

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Speaker 1: Then he went after Donovan Mitchell and somebody smart texting me,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jay, all Shack wants to do is go

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Speaker 1: That's their win. Can we go viral? That's where things

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Speaker 1: go viral? Oh well, that's great. Does it matter that

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Speaker 1: you denigrated Donovan Mitchell, one of the top fifteen players

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Speaker 1: where we are in sports media. It's a little depressing.

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Speaker 1: People want to protect their era. Most of the negative

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Speaker 1: Shack and they just don't really like Lebron. They just

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Speaker 1: want to protect their era. And Charles Barkley obviously protecting

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Speaker 1: all his guys in the eighties and ninety Oh. Magic, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: magic was great. I got it. Awesome. You can't tell

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Speaker 1: Nothing holds up nothing, and don't let's not do the

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Speaker 1: rings thing. I don't want to say Robert or he's

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Speaker 1: so is that I mean Robert or he's on his level?

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Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? Like Tim Duncan chat like

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Speaker 1: we could do this dumb game rings? Like it's more

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Speaker 1: than rings. Do you guys realize? Well, he melted down

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Speaker 1: against the Mavericks. Yeah, he that was the worst series

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Speaker 1: he's ever had. Lebron's in his eighteenth season by saying

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Speaker 1: game one. Um, so we're saying five games. So you

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Speaker 1: it's just all bizarre. Lebron keeps talking about wine on

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Speaker 1: metaphor he's building up as he gets older. He ages

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Speaker 1: like a fine wine. I know you guys can see that.

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Speaker 1: It's obvious and he's spot on. He he should win

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Speaker 1: no drop off. Thirty five, seven and seven Lakers have

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Speaker 1: Avery Bradley on the perimeter. Right, the Lakers are first

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Speaker 1: And folks, listen, you're gonna have to come correct with

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Speaker 1: this Lebron bashing, because right now nothing makes sense. Nothing.

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Speaker 1: He is the greatest player of all time. He is

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Speaker 1: having another incredible season. He's thirty six. Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know why the hate is there. You need to start

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Speaker 1: appreciating the greatness. Really appreciate Tom Brady. We don't know

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Speaker 1: Brady has carried the torch and he's gonna hand it

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Like, just appreciate the greatness. Yeah, Luca eventually

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Speaker 1: and the Pelicans will get their act together. They stink,

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Speaker 1: league needs Zion in the playoffs. But I just I

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. A Lonzo Ball was the second pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft. And I don't know, does Magic Johnson bear

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Speaker 1: some responsibility for saying, hey, man, don't take all my records. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think that his dad, if you're gonna go that route,

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Speaker 1: would play more responsibility into it. Because he sold a

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Speaker 1: bill of goods to every single media member who was

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Speaker 1: willing to talk to him. And that was the fault

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Speaker 1: of of people like me and you versus more than

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Speaker 1: you know, the dad's fault, because we kept putting a

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Speaker 1: microphone in his face. You know, we were so welly, right,

431
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Speaker 1: but we saw a Lonzo he was good. But I'll

432
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Speaker 1: remember I was firm, dear, and Fox was a better

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Speaker 1: prospect in my eyes. Now he doesn't want anything either, um,

434
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Speaker 1: but yeah, and it's like it's not to say that

435
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Speaker 1: Alonzo's I still think he's a good player, can be

436
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Speaker 1: a good player. It's just you know, wait, wait, wait,

437
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Speaker 1: time out, time out. Good he's a good player right now,

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Speaker 1: I think that Rob g Let me get view his

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Speaker 1: career numbers. Ready, you said he's a good player. Career

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Speaker 1: numbers only a hundred seventy four games in. He just

441
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Speaker 1: turned twenty three career shooting percentage, nine career three point percentage,

442
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Speaker 1: thirty three career free throw percentage. Rob, even if you

443
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Speaker 1: look at this year, he's shooting from three percent from

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Speaker 1: the free throw line. Is he a good player? You

445
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Speaker 1: don't become the youngest player in NBA history to post

446
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Speaker 1: a triple double and not and just be a dogshit player.

447
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Speaker 1: I didn't say as bad as his current numbers. He

448
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Speaker 1: this is like it's not a perfect comparison, but this

449
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Speaker 1: is the one that that makes sense right ahead. Immediately,

450
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Speaker 1: you know there's certain guys that just get put in

451
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Speaker 1: positions that are set up to fail. And the one

452
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Speaker 1: that always sund out to me in the NFL because

453
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Speaker 1: it's probably the most recent, is Josh Rosen. Josh Rosen

454
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Speaker 1: was drafted number ten. He got thrown in there his

455
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Speaker 1: rookie season behind arguably the worst offensive line in the league,

456
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Speaker 1: got destroyed, and immediately his coach gets fired. They bring

457
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Speaker 1: in a new guy who gets the number one pick.

458
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Speaker 1: He wants a different quarterback, They take him. They send

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen over to Miami again. Terrible weapons and Ryan Fitzpatrick,

460
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Speaker 1: who's not a starting quarterback in the NFL, but is

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Speaker 1: a high quality backup and can win you five to

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Speaker 1: eight games on any given season because he's just a

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Speaker 1: professional quarterback. So if you're gonna and then Brian Flores

464
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Speaker 1: is there and he decides, I don't want to develop guys,

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Speaker 1: I want to actually win because I want to build

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Speaker 1: a winning culture. So of course you're gonna go with

467
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Speaker 1: the guy who's a seasoned veteran. Never really gave Josh

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Speaker 1: Rosen a chance to succeed Lonzo Ball when he was

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Speaker 1: with the Lakers in the beginning his his first season.

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Speaker 1: He was fine, like he he he did all the

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Speaker 1: things that that U c l A that you hoped

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Speaker 1: he would do. You know, the jump shot never really

473
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Speaker 1: came around the way it was in college, but he

474
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Speaker 1: was defending at a high level. He was, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: moving the ball, sharing at high i Q, you know,

476
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: doing a lot of good things. And then Lebron shows up. Well. Instantly,

477
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Speaker 1: everything that Lonzo Ball does well becomes a moot point

478
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Speaker 1: because Lebron does all of them better. So there's no

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Speaker 1: reason for him to be used in the way that

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Speaker 1: makes the most sense. So he gets traded to New Orleans.

481
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: New Orleans has Drew Holiday. Of course, you're if you

482
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Speaker 1: have a choice between which of these point guards you

483
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Speaker 1: want to run your show, You're gonna go with Drew Holiday,

484
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Speaker 1: who's a borderline all stllar every year. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the young guys. So that that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Then stan Van Gundy comes in and David Griffin, who,

487
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Speaker 1: by the way, shout out for all those draft picks

488
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Speaker 1: that doesn't do ship for you when you know your

489
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Speaker 1: team sucks. You know who cares well of those draft picks.

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Speaker 1: He decides, you know what, I got Zion Williamson. I

491
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Speaker 1: got Brandon ingram A Lonzo Ball. You know what I'm

492
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Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna add a traditional big to clog

493
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Speaker 1: up the lane for all these guys and get Steven Adams.

494
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna trade for or Eric Bledsoe another point guard

495
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Speaker 1: when I already have a point guard on the roster.

496
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Speaker 1: It's like he's not being given the keys to do

497
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: exactly what's gonna make him good. It's it's kind of

498
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: like what's going on with Ben Simmons. It's like, what

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Speaker 1: do you think is going to happen when you're not

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Speaker 1: accentuating his strengths. You're trying to fit him into this

501
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Speaker 1: this square peg round hole, and you're asking him to

502
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Speaker 1: be a disappointment in that in that sense, all right,

503
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Speaker 1: so I'll push back on the Ben Simmons. I think

504
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: he was third team All NBA. UM. But are you

505
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Speaker 1: saying the best version of defense? The best version? We

506
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: haven't yet. But this is also a guy who, along

507
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Speaker 1: with Jimmy Butler and Reddick and and Be nearly beat

508
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Speaker 1: the Raptors a couple of years ago in the playoffs. Again,

509
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: a Londo is really young, hundred seventy four games into

510
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Speaker 1: the career. But I mean Rob g At some level

511
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: you've got to. If you are awesome, you are going

512
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: to elve eate those around you. Like take DeShawn Watson. Okay,

513
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: loses his awesome receiver, terrible offensive line, coaches fired, Um,

514
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, no running game. They didn't win a lot

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00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: this year, but he was incredible. Statistically, Deshaun Watson, surrounded

516
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: by heaping manure, was a statistically a top six quarterback

517
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Speaker 1: in the NFL this year. He was off the charts,

518
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: and you can see, oh, man, get this guy some help.

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00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna win. We haven't seen that from Lonzo. I'm

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00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: not saying we can't. I just I mean, can the

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00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: guy makes six of his free throws? Is that too

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Speaker 1: much to ask? I mean, rob g shooting from deep within.

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Speaker 1: I just I haven't seen it. Um, maybe you know

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Speaker 1: my my NBA comp for him. I had an NBA

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Speaker 1: comp for Trey Young being um Mike Bibby, and I

526
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Speaker 1: think Trey Young, you know, obviously was a much better

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Speaker 1: score last year than Bibby. But at least Bibby knew

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Speaker 1: his ro he knew what to do. Like Trey Young's

529
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Speaker 1: fighting for his role. He's like, I'm a star, I

530
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Speaker 1: get buckets and then he's got like guys around him

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Speaker 1: who could score, and they're like, oh, you don't play

532
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: any defense and we're not winning. Like Trey Young has

533
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: gotta change his game, Like at some point Lonzo has

534
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Speaker 1: to adapt. And I think the best comparison for him

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Speaker 1: for me is uh Andre Miller, who believe it or not,

536
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Speaker 1: played seventeen seasons in the NBA, never made the All

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Speaker 1: Star Game. But he was a really good player. He

538
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: was not like a below average guy. Now, Andre Miller

539
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: ended up I think top fifteen and assists and he

540
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: was on a lot of playoff teams one year led

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Speaker 1: the NBA and assists. Um. Funny side note. I was

542
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Speaker 1: playing in a tennis tournament in l A two years

543
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: ago and I go to tell my score a win

544
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: of course, to the scorers table, and there's this huge

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Speaker 1: guy in front of me, and I'm like, man, I

546
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: hope I don't have to play this guy. He's jack in.

547
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: Look at the arms on this guy. My gosh, you

548
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: get everything at the net. And I instantly started scouting,

549
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: like how would I beat this guy? He turns around

550
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Speaker 1: and it's Andre Miller, the NBA point guard. I'm like, oh,

551
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: what's up? You know, um, and luckily I didn't have

552
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: to play him. He got knocked out. I made the

553
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: semifinals loss to the eventual champ. You don't really care,

554
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: but um, I got crushed by the eventual champ. But

555
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: he killed everybody, didn't lose his set to anyone. And now,

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00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: way off topic. But I played him tougher than anyone else.

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Speaker 1: Did you trust me on this? Um? I think if

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Speaker 1: Alonzo has the career of Andre Miller, if he can

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Speaker 1: stick around for seventeen years, if he can um make

560
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: a lot of money and pass the ball and make

561
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: shots when need be, I think that's a good career

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00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: and and a funny side note, and I'm not bashing

563
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: uh Alonzo ball here. So I got a buddy who

564
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: lived across the street from him. Alonzo was renting a

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00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: house near us, and you know, apparently he was super

566
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Speaker 1: nice in the neighborhood to all the young kids who

567
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: obviously know Alonzo ball. Um. I'm not bashing him, but Rob,

568
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is his younger brother, LaMelo

569
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: is already a better player than him. And you know

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00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: we talked about player efficiency rating. Yr Kich is one

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Speaker 1: and beat his two. Among the fifty five sixty six

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Speaker 1: point cards. Alonzo player efficiency rating fifty and everyone below

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Speaker 1: him UM plays many fewer minutes. He plays a lot

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Speaker 1: of minutes UH fifty five out of sixty six point cards.

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball, by the way, twenty three out of sixty

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00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: six point cards, ahead of Jamal Murray, Dennis Shrewder. Like

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Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball, who's nineteen, is playing really well? UM, I

578
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: would say, and Rob feel free to push back. Best

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Speaker 1: case scenario right now for Alonzo is he goes to

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00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: a good team and it's like a backup point guard,

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00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: the way like Jason Williams ak White Chocolate was with

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00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat when they want a title. I think

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00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: it was Wade in two thousand six, UM, and they

584
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: had like Mario Chalmers starting and Jay will came off

585
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: the bench. Remember Sean Livingston with the Warriors. He was

586
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: like that second unit guy, fifteen to twenty minutes a night.

587
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: He was going to be a professional. He was gonna

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00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: make some shots, distribute the ball, play defense like that.

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00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: I think is probably a Lonzo's future. Is that too harsh? Now?

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00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: I'll look for a team. But you tell me, is

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00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: that is that too critical of an assessment? I would

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00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: say yes, because he's so young. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: were to look just two guys out top of my head,

594
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: Paul George his second season was getting twelve points and

595
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: five rebounds a game shooting right. He was also like

596
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: the end of the lottery guy. I think, yeah, exactly.

597
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler took him until he was twenty five to

598
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: average more than thirteen points a game, and even the

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00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: season before he averaged thirty nine percent shooting from three,

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Speaker 1: Like like, they're there and I know that we, you know,

601
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: guys like me and you were part of the problem

602
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: because we expect, you know, because of what Luca dodch

603
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: Is did, we expect guys to just pop right away. No,

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00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: I've adjusted expectations for last and definitely, but the thing

605
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: is that he kind of did pop early in his career.

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Speaker 1: He he was doing things. He was on Sports Center

607
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: getting a couple of triple of doubles. You I think

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00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: he averaged like ten seven and seven as a rookie

609
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: on a dogshit team, which you know, if you want

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Speaker 1: to compare him to his brother, who I think is

611
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: definitely the more talented to you know, he's averaging right

612
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: now eleven six and six, So they're kind of there

613
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: at that point in their careers. They were the same guy,

614
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: but Alonzo was a better defender. So what if Alonzo

615
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: can get to say the Utah Jazz. I'm just looking

616
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: at their depth chart. Jazz a thirteen and four, good team, quinnsider,

617
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: great coach. Right, there's no pressure for Alonso there. Okay,

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00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: they got a starter Mike Conley. They don't really have

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Speaker 1: a backup point guard. Jordan Clarkson is like instant offense

620
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: off the bench. He don't pass with the second unit,

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Speaker 1: he is just jacking. You get Alonso, you get some

622
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: stability in the second unit. Um. I don't even think

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Speaker 1: Alonzo will have the career of Ricky Rubio. Oh damn. Okay,

624
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: well you know what that again, you're taking shots at

625
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: guys who have nothing to do, Like rick is mining

626
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: his own business in Utah, chilling, listening to whatever. He's

627
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: mining his business, and you're taking shots at him. Um, no,

628
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: you know what, that's not a shot. Like I Ricky

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Speaker 1: Rubio is a good player, but I don't think he's

630
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: ever been at all No. Um, he had a lot

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Speaker 1: of hype coming in Roum. You know who also never

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Speaker 1: been an All star c. J. McCollum, and you're I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, like if if the barometer is being an

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Speaker 1: all Star. I mean you you said it yourself at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show. You know, the league has

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Speaker 1: more talent probably than ever top to bottom, Like there's

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Speaker 1: this is just loaded, especially in the Western Conference. Um

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Speaker 1: the team that I think I would love to see

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Speaker 1: him go to. And this was actually floated out as

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Speaker 1: one of the trade partners by Sham Serena and the

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Speaker 1: the column he wrote about Lonzo about a Lonzo being

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Speaker 1: mentioned in trade talks is the Golden State Warriors because

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Speaker 1: he can He plays exactly like Draymond Green, but as

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Speaker 1: a point guard, he does all the little things it

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Speaker 1: takes to win. He moves the ball. He's not going

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Speaker 1: to be pounding it because you know, we're trying to

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Speaker 1: set up Steph Curry for a bunch of threes. So

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Speaker 1: he could be like Andrea Agudala in that offense. He

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Speaker 1: he could do all the same things. Yeah, huh, learning

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Speaker 1: behind a pro like Steph, I don't Draymond might break

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Speaker 1: Look what the Warriors did to Andrew Wiggins. Suddenly there

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Speaker 1: was a column I think in The Athletic saying look

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Speaker 1: at how much Andrew Wiggins has come along since his

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Speaker 1: days in minister I haven't noticed is he playing well.

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Speaker 1: He's always been the same kind of guy to me.

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Speaker 1: He gives you numbers but doesn't really affect winning. But

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Speaker 1: you know, suddenly you're in that culture and Steph Curry,

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Speaker 1: you know, carries you to a couple of wins. And

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green for all the talk about him being a

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Speaker 1: bad player, because what is it triple single, I think

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Speaker 1: that's what, uh Charles Barkley called him because he doesn't scored,

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Speaker 1: doesn't put up a city. He's like three three and

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Speaker 1: three or something like that. But he helps teams win.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's a winning player, right, And I think

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Speaker 1: if you get Alonzo ball in the right system, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be great. Well great great, it's a bad word

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Speaker 1: to use. He's gonna be not as a starter, right,

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Speaker 1: not as a starter with with that team. He could

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Speaker 1: have had the trade a weak for Kelly Hubra. That's

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Speaker 1: the that's what's being floated out there. Oh that's disgusting,

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Speaker 1: No way, you wouldn't trade him Kelly. Kelly is struggling.

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Speaker 1: But come on, it's if the Pelicans what they're trying

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Speaker 1: to do is just stack up draft picks, because David

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Speaker 1: Griffin has convinced you guys that if he has twenty

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Speaker 1: eight draft picks, he's gonna, you know, have a great

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Speaker 1: team eventually. I don't know. I it would be fun

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Speaker 1: if Michael Jordan's would trade for Alonzo so they could

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Speaker 1: have the brothers. But I'll say that pick up Lee Angelo. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now I'm now I'm excited. You see l A East.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I look at that Charlotte team.

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Speaker 1: They're they're interesting to me. Gordon Abors playing ridiculously well,

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Speaker 1: he was like a third team All NBA or this year.

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Speaker 1: I'm t team Gordon Hayward um. But you look at

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Speaker 1: their depth chart, their stacked to guard. You know, they

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Speaker 1: got Rogier, Graham, LaMelo Ball, they got one of the Martin. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they got both Martin twins from Nevada, Cody and Caleb.

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Speaker 1: They're they're all right. I don't know why Malik Monk

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Speaker 1: is he is he suspended for drugs? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But the Hornets issue is they actually have too many guards.

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Speaker 1: They need to remove some of them, not get another one.

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Speaker 1: That's their problem. Yeah, all right, Anyways, we've prattled on

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Speaker 1: long enough about a Lonzo ball. I still can't believe

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Speaker 1: you think he's a good player right now. That's just

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Speaker 1: stunning to me. Rong, don't just read the box scores.

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Speaker 1: You gotta watch the games. I'm not. I'm not. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the stats. Looking at that. I just said,

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Speaker 1: don't read the box scores. You say, I'm not, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at stats. That's kind of the same thing. But

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Speaker 1: the efficiency now, I mean, listen, every time I watch

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Speaker 1: he's like splitting time with Bled cell or Um. He's

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Speaker 1: in a unit where he doesn't have like an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to do much, and I don't see him making an

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Speaker 1: impact at the defensive end like he was supposed to be,

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Speaker 1: this all tool guy. And I haven't seen any of

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Speaker 1: them other than the occasional Sports Center highlight that they

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Speaker 1: jam in there because they know that a Lonzo has

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Speaker 1: like seven million Instagram followers. So if they're like a

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Speaker 1: Lonzo on the graund maybe they'll watch us to see

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Speaker 1: the highlights. Do you want to know how don r

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Speaker 1: efficiency ratings are? You know who's a who's ahead of

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, Damian Lillard, Kyrie Irving at number eleven and

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Speaker 1: it's cancer and it's cancer played Chris Boucher. He's been great.

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Speaker 1: He's number fifteen, ahead of Lebron j Okay, here's a

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Speaker 1: good one. Uh Lebron James is eighteen. You know who's

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Speaker 1: right ahead of him. I don't believe in COVID, Michael

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Speaker 1: Porter Jr. So come on, Michael, Michael. That's the whole

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Speaker 1: point of PR. PR is an outdates, not the end

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Speaker 1: all be all, definitely not. But it's not like points

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Speaker 1: per game or rebounds or assistant that doesn't matter. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't really tests what someone's doing. Efficiency numbers? Are you

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Speaker 1: just brought up Gordon Hayward? You know who he's behind

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Speaker 1: a player efficient rating? He's by Jordie Clarkson. He's number

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Speaker 1: forty and we just and I agree with you. Gordon

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Speaker 1: Hayward has been great this season. Well, he's got to

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Speaker 1: do everything on that. Charlotte Jeremy Jeremy Griston playing great

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Speaker 1: in Detroit. Have you it's like the number one options.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding, Like, come on, man, you gotta

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Speaker 1: take this kind of stuff into account. See, I'm doing fantasy,

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Speaker 1: so I see the box scores every night and Jeremy

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Speaker 1: Grant's putting up numbers. Um, the problem is they have nobody.

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Speaker 1: Blake Griffin's on his way out there trying to trade

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Speaker 1: Derrick Rows. Anyways, all right, we've gone on too long, um,

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Speaker 1: rob g any final thoughts besides a Lonzo, where's Bradley

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Speaker 1: be All getting traded the team that the Lakers are

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Speaker 1: playing tonight. I think he goes to Philly. I think

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons that's the deal that gets made. Oh that's spicy.

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Speaker 1: I'll double down on that. So all right, thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening. That's a lot of NBA talk. I gotta

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Speaker 1: get back to NFL tomorrow. Um, maybe college basketball next week. Anyway, anyways,

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Speaker 1: everybody take care out there. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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