1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing, fresh off our fourth of July break back, 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: feeling rejuvenated, and we are going to dive into the 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: Ravens AFC North opponents and kind of break down what 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: they've done this offseason and give our perspective. There's some 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: big news this past week in the division, and Garrett 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: just big picture of the Ravens have won the AFC 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: North two straight years. No team has ever won it 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: three consecutive seasons, so the Ravens have their work cut 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: out for them historically. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: Of course, we've talked all about how. 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: We think this is, you know, the most complete Ravens 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: team that we've seen here in a long time, maybe 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: the best roster in the NFL. So I think the 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: Ravens are up to the task. But the AFC North 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: remains daunting. There's a lot of very good teams in 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: this division. It's not going to be easy to pull 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: off the three pets. So we're going to dive into it, 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: and we'll start with the Steelers because they do have 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: the fresh news, which there's not much in July, but 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: they made a blockbuster trade last week they traded for 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl cornerback Jalen Ramsey and tight end John U. Smith, 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: and they traded away Pro Bowl safety Minka Fitzpatrick. So, first, Garrett, 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: what did you think of that trade as you were 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: relaxing during the fourth of July week off. 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think first and foremost I was 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: the AFC North clearly wants to get as many good 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: cornerbacks as possible. The Ravens just brought in jaiy Or 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: Alexander and now the Steelers ad Jalen Ramsey as so 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: you look at it and it's like there's a lot 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: of good receivers in this division. Of course, you got 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and t Higgins in Cincinnati. You got Zay 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: Flowers leading the way here in Baltimore along with Rashaan 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: Bateman and really good tight ends here. So like, the 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: teams in this division know that you need to have 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: quality secondary play in order to limit their opponents. And 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: like that to me was the first thing that jumped out. 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: I think, to be honest, like everyone wants to make 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: the snap judgment who won the trade, time will tell 40 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: on that. I found it interesting because you add Jalen 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: Ramsey and Ramsey is a guy that, like Ravens fans 42 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: have clamored for for years because even going back to 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: when he got drafted back in twenty sixteen, a lot 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: of people felt like, this is a guy that could 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: be a target for the Ravens and there was lots 46 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: of thought talk about that at the time. And so 47 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: whenever his names come up and trade talks, he's been 48 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: traded a few times. Like Ravens fans have talked about 49 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: the possibility of adding him. It's like he's a super 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: talented player. But it's interesting that they bring in Ramsey 51 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: but then they trade away Mike and Fitzpatrick. In some ways, 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 3: it kind of seems like a wash. You like, get 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: one Pro Bowl defensive back, but you lose another. 54 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: And Minco is like one of their biggest leaders, I 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: mean play a hard and soul guy for their team. Yeah, 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: he and Cam Hayward have been kind of the heart 57 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: and soul of that defense, and so it is interesting. 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: I think you wonder how much did Derrick Henry's stiff 59 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: arm on Mike and Fitzpatrick and the playoffs have to 60 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: do with this kind of ragged all them. 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's it is interesting. 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that you bring up the term 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: fans are and pundits are wondering is this a wash? 64 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: And a very similar situation to George Pickens, who they 65 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: traded to the Cowboys and then brought in DK Metcalf, 66 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: like two kind of similar players, comparable to each other, big, 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: big guys, like physical, yeah, big dudes. And so yeah, 68 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: I've just seen there's been so many memes out there 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: on social media about the Steelers like making all these 70 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: moves and then are they right back at the same 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: spot where they were before? 72 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: Right where? 73 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Really they've been a team that has again, the Steelers 74 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: are a tough out every time they step on the 75 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: field because of their identity and just who they are, 76 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: and and like they're just a tough team to beat, right, 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: and uh, but yet they've come up short in the 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: playoffs and just kind of been around that five hundred 79 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: marker a little bit better, right, And like the stat 80 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: that always get thrown out there is Mike Tomlins never 81 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: had a losing season as the head coach of the 82 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. Well, it's also been a long time since 83 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers won a playoff game, right, And so that's 84 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: kind of been there. Their hill that they need to 85 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: get over is like go from a good team to 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: a great team. And the Ravens certainly last year stood 87 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: in their way and came from behind, hawked him down 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: in the standings and overtook him, and then beat him 89 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then beat him in the playoffs, knocked 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: him out exactly. So you know, and the quarterback situation 91 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: there has obviously been the biggest thing in my opinion, 92 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: in holding them back in recent years. And obviously they 93 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: made a big move on that front, signing the veteran 94 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: and so going out and getting a guy like Aaron Rodgers. 95 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Is that enough to get them over the hump and 96 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: kind of out of this out of neutral to a degree. 97 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the big question. And honestly, like with Aaron Rodgers, 98 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: the last two years for the Jets did not go 99 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: the way certainly that he or I think a lot 100 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: of people around football expected them to go. It's been 101 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: a few years since he's been the player that we 102 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: saw for most of his career in Green Bay, injuries 103 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: being a large reason for that. I also A'm not like, 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: I'm not closing the door on the idea that Aaron 105 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: Rodgers could go be a good quarterback this year. Like, 106 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: I'm just not in that camp. I think that he's 107 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: been He's a Hall of Fame player, and he wants 108 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: to go out like he wants to go out on 109 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: his own terms. He said recently, this is this is 110 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: likely it, this is probably it, And like I think 111 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: he certainly has made it clear that he doesn't. It 112 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: doesn't sit right the way the last two years have 113 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: gone for him in New York. He wants to end 114 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: on better terms than that. And like he's a guy 115 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: that really doesn't have anything left to prove. He's been 116 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: MVP multiple times, he's gonna. 117 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: Be I think he does have something left to prove. 118 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, over his career. I mean, it's going 119 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame. But like to 120 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: what you said earlier, it hasn't been very good the 121 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: last two years lately. 122 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: But like, does he have anything to prove? I don't know. 123 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: I mean, the guy's gonna be a like, no doubt, 124 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: first ballot of Hall of Famer. He's been a super Bowl, Like, 125 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: there's not much the guy has to prove in that. 126 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: He wants to prove that he's better than he was 127 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: the past couple of years. 128 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, he wants to go out on top. He 129 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 3: wants to go out on top and definitely go out 130 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: better than he was the last two years. Yeah, and 131 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: so will again, I'm not I'm just I'm not closing 132 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: the door. Unlike the idea that he could be a 133 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: really good player for them. I also think that with 134 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: the way the Steelers are built as a team, that's 135 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: gonna happen, like, you know, just fundamentally with Mike Tomlin 136 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: as the coach, like the identity of that team, They're 137 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: gonna be good. Defensively, they're gonna be there. They're gonna 138 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: be a team that wants to run the ball, They're 139 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: gonna win close games, they're gonna play sound fundamental football 140 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 3: like those are all things that they typically do. 141 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it. To me, it's gonna 142 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: be very interesting how this team changes with Aaron Rodgers 143 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: under center. And you know, Rogers is a guy who 144 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: big person. I like he wants to He's not just 145 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: gonna take all the orders. He wants to run the show, 146 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he will have opinions 147 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: for sure, And so how much will this Steelers offense 148 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: change from a very what I think has been a 149 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: very conservative offense in terms of, like, you know, they're 150 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: barely throwing the ball over the middle of the field, 151 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: it's outside the hasher. It's they play not to make 152 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: mistakes right, and like win the turnover battle defensively, don't 153 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: turn the ball over. Offensively, play to your defense, run 154 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: the ball, you know, make big plays sacking the quarterback, 155 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: and like try to win games that way. They have 156 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: not been a team that's like We're gonna go out 157 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: there and try to run up the score and out 158 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: gun you a thirty five to like heck, no, no, 159 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: it's ugly. It's ugly, and they take pride in that, 160 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: and like they've won a lot of games like that. 161 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: You know, that's been how that's been their mo in 162 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: part because they haven't really had this solution on the 163 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: quarterback that like was a big time threat to put 164 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: up a lot of points. 165 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: Can Aaron Rodgers be that maybe? Right? 166 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: Like Aaron Rodgers when he's hot is one of the 167 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 1: best I still think like Aaron Rodgers at his peak 168 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. 169 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: Now is forty one year old Aaron Rodgers. 170 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: Can he get back to his peak, Like, I don't 171 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: think that last year he was He didn't have a 172 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: bad year. You look at the numbers he threw for, 173 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: like thirty eight hundred almost four thousand yards. Yeah, twenty 174 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns to eleven picks. Like not a bad season, 175 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And did he have a 176 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: good weapons in New York last year as he now 177 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: has with the Steelers. 178 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: You know, you have DK Metcalf, they had Garrett Wilson and. 179 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: They traded they traded for DeVante Adams midway through the season. 180 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: Like pretty good weapons there. Yeah, yeah, they had bri 181 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: saw it run running back. Like a lot of things 182 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 3: about wrong in New York last year. 183 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the offensive line was the question 184 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: he's They still have some of those same question marks 185 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. You know, they have a new left tackling 186 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: Roderick Jones. So you know, I think for Aaron Rodgers, 187 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot of it is going to come down to 188 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: his health. A part of that is how well he's 189 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: not mobile. He virtually has no no mobility at this 190 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: stage of his career. 191 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: So like the AFC North football, you know that could 192 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: be tough. 193 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's honestly Yeah, I think. 194 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be tough for him with these 195 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: pass rushers in this division and the Ravens you know, 196 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: certainly trying to beef up their pass rush more and 197 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: whether he can stay healthy I think will be a 198 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: primary question. 199 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I go back to it'll be interesting 200 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: to see what their offensive identity is like, like you asked, 201 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: because I don't think at this stage Rogers is necessarily 202 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: a guy that, like I don't think because he's there, 203 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: the Steelers are gonna be like, well, now we got 204 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: to throw the ball forty times a game. I just 205 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: think that at this stage of his career, there's he 206 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: still fits an offense that's gonna want to run the 207 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: ball and establish that side of things. But you also 208 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: have DK Metcalf, and he's a guy that is he 209 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: can hit the big play, but he also wants to 210 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: hit the ball in his hands a lot. And so like, 211 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: I feel like the Steelers are gonna they're gonna find 212 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: ways to get DK Metcalf the ball. They give him 213 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: a lot to get him, like, they want him to 214 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 3: be heavily involved in this offense every single week. So 215 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: he's gonna get his and that's going to be a 216 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: focal point for them offensively. And so you have the 217 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: quarterback that has been a multi time MVP, a big 218 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: play wide receiver. So like you think of what's your 219 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: offensive identity, you kind of start there rather than starting 220 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: with a more conservative run the ball style offense. Like 221 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: your quarterback and your number one receiver, those are the 222 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: that's where your mind goes when talking about their offense, 223 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: which is a shift from what we've seen in the past. 224 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: And Najie Harris is no longer there. He's out in 225 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Yep, the Chargers and you know so now 226 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Warren becomes the lead back. They also added Kenneth Gainwell. 227 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: By the way, they added another veteran quarterback to Darius 228 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: Slay was another offseason edition for them. And Malie Harrison 229 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: like very older team, a much older Pittsburgh Steelers team, 230 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: and I think and Mike Tomlin has been pretty candid 231 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: about this, like they have got they have put the 232 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: ems is this all season on bigger physical like it's 233 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: going to be about adding physical players. They he was 234 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: not happy about the Ravens running all over them in 235 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, like that, the sour taste of 236 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: that lingered for Mike Tomlin this offseason and that was 237 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: reflected in a lot of their even in their draft class. 238 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: You look at that in their additions. Malie Harrison is 239 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: a great example of big, physical, run stopping linebacker. That's 240 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: who they want to become. And DK Metcalf big dude, 241 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: John Ramsey. 242 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: Big dude. 243 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: You know. So like they they want to get back 244 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: in their minds to being the bullies in the AFC North. 245 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: Now does that leave him a step slow? They're older 246 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: and bigger. 247 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Right. The other factor that we haven't even mentioned 248 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: with the Stealers, and I think this is just going 249 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: to get worked out, but there is a contract dispute 250 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: that's ongoing with them and t J. Walla. He wants 251 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: to do contracting. 252 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 2: I think he's going to get paid there. 253 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 3: I'm sure he is. I mean, he's been there his 254 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: whole career. He's a he's like a ring of honor 255 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: type guy. And so it would be very surprising if 256 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: that were not able to be worked out. But it 257 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: hasn't worked out yet, and so often. 258 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: That would be a huge loss obviously. 259 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that would be that would be really 260 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: kind of a game changer in the division. 261 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: But here we go. 262 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: This, this would be tip standard, This would be part 263 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: for the courts for the Steelers offseason. 264 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: Huh they trade TJ. Watt for Trey Hendrickson. There you go. Well, 265 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: it's not honestly interesting because you look at the three 266 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: opponents in the division, all three of them have had 267 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: marquee pass rushers in the midst of contract disputes this offseason, 268 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: t J. Watt, Miles Garrett, and Trey Hendrickson. Miles Garrett 269 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: worked out. We're gonna get to the other teams here 270 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: in a minute. But TJ. Watt Trey Hendrickson, those things 271 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: are still ongoing. And so both of those guys want 272 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 3: new deals. And I do wonder if one of them 273 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: gets done, does the other then get done soon after? Like? 274 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: Are they are? Those? 275 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Are those Bengals are playing by anybody's playbook? 276 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: But they're Maybe not, but they But there was some 277 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: movement on the Hendrickson one, and so I wonder if basically, 278 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: if that one gets done, if that ends up being 279 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: kind of a launching pad to get the other done. 280 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: Maybe possibly? All right, Well, speaking about the Bengals, let's 281 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: move on to them. So as you mentioned they re 282 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: signed Jamar Chase and t Higgins, their two premiere wide 283 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: receivers or deals that were lingering for a long time. 284 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: When with those get done, the Bengals finally made them happen. 285 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: It's really been an off season of kind of retention 286 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: for the Bengals almost you know, no big changes for them, 287 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: and that leaves the question of isn't enough right now? 288 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: The Bengals were a team that got off to a 289 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: slow start last year and then were hard charging down 290 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: the stretch and really were one of those teams that 291 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: was hot, and you said, do you want the Bengals 292 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: in the playoffs? 293 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: The way they're playing right now? The offense was one 294 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: of the best. 295 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was an MVP candidate who didn't probably get 296 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: as much shine as he maybe even deserved the numbers 297 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: that he put up last year. This all the offenses 298 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: is really really good. Yeah, the question is have they 299 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: done enough this offseason to improve defensively. Trey Hendrickson certainly 300 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: if he were not to work out, he said he's 301 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: not gonna play under its current deal. If that deal 302 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: doesn't get done and they lose somehow lose, Trey Hendrickson Obviously, 303 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: the defense gets significantly worse in one of the NFL's 304 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: leading sackers for the past two years and beyond. Also, 305 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: they drafted Shamar Stewart in the first round, the talented 306 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: Texas A and M pass rusher, but he held out 307 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: all offseason, didn't participate in Mantory Mini campus. He's in 308 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: a contract dispute with the front office. So I imagine 309 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: that's gonna get done and he's gonna be on the 310 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: field week one, but it's not yet. 311 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, my gut says both those guys get done, but 312 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: for every day they're not done. That just leads to 313 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: more of a question as to when it's gonna happen, 314 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: if it's going to happen. 315 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: Right, but even let's just say, even if both those 316 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: deals get done, is the Bengals defense better than it 317 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: was last year when it was one of the worst 318 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL? 319 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: Right? Well, the question a big question there is Shamar Stewart. 320 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: How good is He's a rookie? What can you expect 321 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: from him? Super athletic guy? This was Remember if if 322 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: we were to go back a few months to all 323 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: the conversation we had around the draft, Shamar Stewart was 324 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: somebody that we we spent a lot of time talking about, 325 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: and he was somebody that really jumped on the scene 326 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: at the combine, had a great combine, super athletic guy, 327 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: not really productive to the same level in college, but 328 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: has these athletic traits that are off the charts. And 329 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: so you know, the Bengals take take the they take 330 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: the risk, I guess on the athletic traits that Shamar 331 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: Stewart brings, but now they have to get him on 332 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: a contractor which is obviously big. I think it's that 333 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: that is the question. Basically, so much of their of 334 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: their salary cap is eating up on the offensive side 335 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: of the ball. You have your quarterback and you have 336 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: your top two wide receivers. 337 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: And I honestly, I was always under the assumption that 338 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: there's no way you could pay both of those guys 339 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: like that you could keep them both. It just seemed 340 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: like if you wanted to have a balance, well like 341 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: constructed team, it. 342 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: Just seemed like they were, like they did Burrow two 343 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: years ago, They're gonna do Jamar Chase because Jamar Chase 344 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: was a top five pick and he played with Joe 345 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: Burrow on college and he's been the more productive player 346 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: throughout his career, and he's might be the best. You 347 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: almost had the Triple Crown in receiving. He might be 348 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: the best receiver in football. So it's like, all right, 349 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: they're gonna have They're gonna have Jamar Chase. I think 350 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: Seggins Higgins is probably gonna go elsewhere, And that's not 351 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: what happened. They just end up finding a way to 352 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: keep both of them. Like, I know that's the everyone 353 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: has a question like is is the defense gonna be 354 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: able to do enough? Or are they just gonna be 355 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: a team that puts up a bunch of points but 356 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: can't stop anybody, Like, like that's the prevailing conversation around 357 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: this team. And I get that, but I also think, like, 358 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: if you have a team that can put up forty 359 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: points a game, which I think that they have that offense, 360 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: they have that calibero offense, like you're just gonna win 361 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: a lot of games. I think you're just gonna win 362 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: a lot. 363 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: I think the question is the the Bengals defense, which 364 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: by the way, they hired a new defensive coordinator. They 365 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: replaced long time coordinator Lou and Remo with Al Golden. 366 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: I think the question is if the Bengal the Bengals 367 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: defense doesn't have to be a top ten unit, but 368 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: if it can be a top fifteen to you know, 369 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: be better, doesn't great best, If it can be okay, 370 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: then like they're gonna win more games and potentially made 371 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 372 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: Where like look at look at the two games against 373 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: the Ravens last year. Both those games down to the wire, 374 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: and they could have gone either way. Exactly, they were 375 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: shootout games that and and give the Ravens and that 376 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: was at its point a point when the Ravens defense. Honestly, 377 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 3: those two games, really that was the turning point the 378 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: second one exactly like that was kind of spearheaded to 379 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: change for the Ravens defense. But those games could have 380 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: gone either way. And so like I'm not, I'm not 381 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: really of the belief that like their defense is just 382 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: not gonna be good enough and they could score a 383 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: million points, it doesn't matter because they can't stop anybody. 384 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: Like I'm not, I'm not on that side of things 385 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: because I look back to last year and I know 386 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: that either of those games against the Ravens could have 387 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: gone differently, very very closely. They're very close games, and 388 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: so if if those games go differently, then we're probably 389 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: having a different conversation right now. And and so I 390 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: think that I think the I think the Bengals are 391 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: gonna be really good. I think the it's gonna be 392 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 3: a tough out. I think they're gonna be I think 393 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 3: they're a team that, like Joe Burrow is one of 394 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: the best five quarterbacks in football, and they have they've 395 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: been to a Super Bowl. But I think that they 396 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: feel similar to probably some of the conversation that fans 397 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: and Baltimore have around like this team and Lamar Jackson, 398 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 3: like there's a window of opportunity here with the pieces 399 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: that are in place, and every year that you don't win, 400 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: you feel like that closes maybe a little bit, and 401 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: like the pressure ramps up a little bit. And I 402 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: just think that, like the Bengals are going to be 403 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: a team that's like highly, highly motivated, with a great 404 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: core on offense, and they're gonna be a tough out. 405 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: Speaking about the importance of a faster start for the Bengals, 406 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: they start the year against the Browns and the Jaguars 407 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: and then they get so all right, you have a 408 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: chance to go to there. You look at on paper, 409 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: then you go Vikings, Broncos, Lions, Packers, Steelers, so it 410 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: gets harder from there. 411 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: That's kind of been therem though. They've often started slow 412 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: and then they get hot well in the second half 413 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 3: of the season, like they've started slow many of these years, 414 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: and then they'll rattle off like eight straight wins in 415 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: the second half of the season and you're like, you know, 416 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: don't want to see him in the playoffs, Like that's 417 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: just it's kind of been like their story. 418 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: In your opinion, who's the bigger threat to the Ravens, 419 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: the Bengals, or the Steelers. 420 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: I would put the Bengals at the top for me. 421 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 3: I just think that again, if you have a if 422 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: you have a top five quarterback and maybe the best 423 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: receiver in football, and then I don't know where you 424 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: rank T Higgins top twenty receiver like that, right there 425 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 3: is a starting point that's good enough to win you 426 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: a ton of games, and it's just going to be 427 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 3: really challenging to beat him. Like Joe Burrow to me 428 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: is like, I know people think that he's great, and 429 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: I did, but I didn't even think I probably put 430 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: him even ahead of where like the prevailing to me 431 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: is I just think he's like that good of a player. 432 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: I think that you're a highest state route. 433 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 3: It's my higher guy, it's my higher Yeah, that might 434 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 3: be part of it. But man, he's he's he's excellent, 435 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: and so I think that like he's. 436 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the question for him has been health, and 437 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: then he was healthy all last year, improved it. 438 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think I agree with you. 439 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: I think the Bengals ceiling is certainly higher than the 440 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: Steelers is in my opinion, and and even maybe potentially 441 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: the floor, you know what I mean, because that offense, 442 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: you just you know, it's gonna be good assuming he 443 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: stays healthy. Like the Steelers to me, are more of 444 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: like a just a major. 445 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: Question mark, you know. 446 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Uh how yeah, it was so much hinges on Rogers 447 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: and and how good he is. But they they've added 448 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: some good players this all season, so they're gonna be 449 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: tough again. All right, Let's finish the AFC North talk 450 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns. 451 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: Talking about quarterback. This is the big question in Cleveland. 452 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: Who is going to be the starter between Kenny Pickett, 453 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, and Deshaun Watson. It's 454 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: not gonna be the Sean Watson because he's injured. Yeah, 455 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: but that is what they're trying to figure out in Cleveland, 456 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: and and all lives will be there on training case. 457 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 3: It seemed like, Okay, it's gonna be Flacco. Go back 458 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: two years. He took him to a playoff game, and 459 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: there's like a lot of a lot of love for 460 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 3: Joe in Cleveland. 461 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: We were on the pod when the schedule was released. 462 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: We were like week one, Joe Flacco returned to Baltimore, 463 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm so sure that's gonna happen. 464 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it seemed like kind of a no brainer 465 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 3: at that point, And then if you pay attention to 466 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: everything that was happening there during their offseason practices, like 467 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett was actually taken a lot of the first 468 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: team reps. Yeah, now there's a share there because they're 469 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: trying to figure out who's going to be the starter. 470 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: But I think Kenny Pickett was somebody who was not 471 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 3: often mentioned in this conversation, but they traded. 472 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: They traded for him. 473 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: By the way, he was the backup last year with 474 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: the Eagles. It seems like he might there's there's a 475 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: chance that he ends up winning that starting job. 476 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: The reports are that he's the favorite. Yeah, that's Mary 477 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: Kake have it. He was a long time Brown's reporter. 478 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: Even Deontay Johnson, you know, now he's fresh to Cleveland, 479 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: but he said that Kenny Pickett seems like the favorite 480 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: there too. So that seems to be the way the 481 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: wind is blowing. 482 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: Which which is a little surprising. Just again, you go 483 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 3: back two years and and Joe had like it was 484 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 3: like the Joe Flacco Fest in Cleveland, Like there was 485 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 3: so much excitement around him that year when he came 486 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 3: in ends up taking that team to the playoffs that. 487 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: Year, when of course social media wants Sanders to be 488 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. That's like the most exciting of the 489 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: Browns quarterbacks, you know, obviously with his draft story in 490 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: falling the way that he did. So I think a 491 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: lot of people, maybe naively and outside of Cleveland, think 492 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: it's only a matter of time before shad Door Sanders 493 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: is the starting quarterback, and maybe maybe he will be. 494 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: I think my my feeling right now is like shud 495 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: Dore Sanders will start at some point this. 496 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: Year during his racy season. 497 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: I think he'll start games this year. Okay, when and 498 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: that is what the circumstances are around that. I just 499 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: think that he this is a guy that really had 500 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: It was shocking that he went as late as he did, 501 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: and so going in the fifth round. When I remember 502 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: you and I coming in here on draft night talking 503 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: about could the Brown somehow get should or Sanders at 504 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: the end of the first round because they had two 505 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: picks and it was like, could they get someone else? 506 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: And as Sanders in that first round, they end up 507 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 3: getting him in the fifth round, and so kind of crazy. 508 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: It is crazy, And so I think that there's I 509 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 3: think that he'll start games at some point this year. 510 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Well, I doubt that it's going to be weak with 511 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a stadium. The 512 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: question for the Ravens will be will it be week 513 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: eleven November sixteenth when the Ravens go to Cleveland? 514 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: Potentially? I no, I yes? Or no? 515 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: Uh? 516 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: I say no, I say no at that point. 517 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: That's too soon week eleven? 518 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think no at that point. 519 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: Okay. 520 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 3: Also the other part of it too is like you 521 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 3: have two veterans, so like even that's just say, can 522 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: you Pickett were to be the guy out of the 523 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: gates and if the Browns were a struggling and they 524 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: said let's make a change, I would think at that 525 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: point they would go to Flacco, not to should or Sanders. 526 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: The question there is like what do you have to 527 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: gain with going to Flaco. I think it depends on 528 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: the season is lost. Let's say you're zero to five 529 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: or whatever and you're making a quarterback change. Maybe that's 530 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: too soon to just say, yeah, we're packing it in basically, like, yeah, 531 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: what point do you get to the Let's just give 532 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: the rookies some reps. And then the funny thing is 533 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: like here's Dylan Gabriel who they drafted in what the 534 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: third round. 535 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 3: Then they drafted him ahead of should or Sanders exactly, 536 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 3: like no one's talking about him potentially went that job. 537 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: But he the starter. Well exactly. So yeah, I don't know, 538 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: it's very interesting. 539 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that like we when I look at 540 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: the Browns big picture, like obviously they have the massive 541 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: quarterback question. You know, this is a team that, like 542 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: is they they struggled last year? They they did the 543 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson trey that did not pan out the way 544 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 3: that they hoped. He's still on the team. At this point, 545 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: but he had just as a refresher like he towards 546 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: Achilles last year and then during his rehab process retowards Achille. 547 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: So it's unlikely he's going to be even an option 548 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: this year. And even if he was, would they just 549 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 3: go with the other options that they've already mentioned four 550 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 3: other quarterbacks currently on the team also, it'll be it'll 551 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: be interesting to see do all four quarterbacks the think 552 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: just carry four quarterbacks on the fifty three manter roster. 553 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: That'd be crazy. But I mean unless you're picking between Pickett, right, 554 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: that's the question. Do they pick between those guys? 555 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: I can't imagine cutting Strador Sanders or Dylan Gabrie. 556 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be shocking. That would be shocking. 557 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're carrying four unless they cut Joe or Kenny Pickett. Yeah, 558 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: Pigot's right now the favorite to be the starter. 559 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: Right. So, like they're a team that seems to have 560 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 3: an uphill battle in this division when you look at it. 561 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 3: But I like Kevin Stefanski. He's been a Coach of 562 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: the Year two times, and like we know what like 563 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: their identity is going to be. They're gonna be a 564 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: team that wants to establish the running game. It's no 565 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 3: longer Nick Chobb. 566 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: Who's defensive defensive identity to a degree, I mean, I 567 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: think the their defense has been pretty good and they 568 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: can be tough, right, I mean, Miles Garrett is maybe 569 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: the best defensive player in all football. 570 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: You start there. 571 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: But like they have an aggressive duh, it's well coached. 572 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: It's a tough scheme that comes downhill and tries to 573 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: attack you, and that can give teams problems. I think 574 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens have done a good job for the most 575 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: part of kind of counterattacking that, yeah, exactly. 576 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 2: But like, yeah, it's not like the. 577 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: Ravens have been sweeping the Browns every year and so 578 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: now last year we dropped what like three or four interceptions. 579 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a bit of a fluky game. 580 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a weird, weird game. 581 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: But like that defense is tough and uh, and I 582 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: think it's got the potential to be even better. I mean, 583 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: they drafted defense tackle Mason Graham, the tough guy, out 584 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: of Michigan to number five overall. They drafted the linebacker 585 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Carson Sweashian Swessinger out of UCLA at number thirty three, 586 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: basically almost the first round pick. So like that that 587 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: defense can be good. Denzel Ward is back and he 588 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: just sent an extension and so they can have they 589 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: can be tough. 590 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: I mentioned Miles Garrett earlier, like they at a certain 591 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 3: point of this offseason, he was requesting a trade and 592 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: it seemed like his time in Cleveland was coming to 593 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: an end. And then out that was all just posturing 594 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: and and and they end up working out a long 595 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: term extension. And but like, yeah, he might be the 596 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: best defensive player in football. So like their their identity 597 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: starts starts with him and that defense, and like they're 598 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 3: gonna they're just gonna be a good defense. But then 599 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: offensively they want to do similar to what we were 600 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: talking about with the Steelers, Like they're gonna be a 601 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: team that wants to establish a run with that stretched 602 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: zone running scheme. They drafted their second round of running 603 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: back quin Shawn Judkins out of Ohio State, really good player. 604 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: Nick Chubb is no longer that replaces Nick Chubb is 605 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: basically a replacement. Nick Chubb was a former second pick 606 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: and Judkins comes in and he'll have, you know, a 607 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 3: big opportunity in front of him. And so like they've 608 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 3: got some They've got some skill players that are pretty talented. 609 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: David Joku is a tight end and Jerry Judy at 610 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 3: wide receiver. Like they've you know, so they have some 611 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: They have Deontay Johnson, they added him in free agency, 612 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: so they've got like some talented skill players. But I 613 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 3: just think that like they want to be a team 614 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: that's that runs that like Denver Broncos Gary Kubiak style offense, 615 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: and and and then they're able to you know, minimize 616 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: the turnovers, run the ball, and lean on their defense. 617 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Yes, that's gonna be their formula to try to to 618 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: win games. Obviously, I think they have an uphill climb 619 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: in this division as they kind of retool here and 620 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: try to figure out the quarterback thing. But they have 621 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: C North is never it is never easy. I think 622 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be one of the best divisions in 623 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: football yet again, and it's gonna be a very interesting 624 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: season in the AFC North. 625 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break, I mean, last one. How 626 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: many wins do you think it's gonna take to win 627 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 3: the AFC North. Okay, so the Ravens are gonna make 628 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: it three straight. How many do they have to get 629 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: to to make that happen. 630 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: I think that you probably have to get to twelve. 631 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: Twelve is the number that I had in my head, 632 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 3: and that's probably the number that you're gonna throw out 633 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: in most of these years. But I think twelve gets 634 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: it done. But I think they like, you could have 635 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 3: a scenario where you have honestly, you could have a 636 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: scenario where you which is often the case in this division, 637 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: where you have three teams that all have winning records 638 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: like I and and I'm not, like, I know the 639 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: Browns last year struggled, but like if if they can, 640 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: if they can get quality enough quarterback play, and then 641 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 3: they can do what we just talked about, where like 642 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: they have a good running game, they have really good defense, 643 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 3: like they can they can win some games well. So 644 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: like you can have a situation where you have, like 645 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: you know, three teams that have more than ten wins 646 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: and another team that's right there on eight. Like that's 647 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: that's tough. 648 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: That would be a good year for the Browns. 649 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: But yes, uh yeah, yeah, I think I think that 650 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: it's still very much Ah. I think it's a three 651 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: horse race in the AFC North and it's the Ravens, 652 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: the Bengals and the uh and the Steelers are gonna 653 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: be slugged out. And the Browns are that team that's 654 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: just like a thorn on everybody's side and you never 655 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, they can as the Rams have seen in 656 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: recent years, they can beat you. 657 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: And uh so that's the way I size it up. 658 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so if he gets twelve, then it's a three 659 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: peat lows likely for the Ravens. 660 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: Yep, love that, love the sounds of that. All right, 661 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna take greag when we come back. Talk about 662 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens news from the past week, which is not much, 663 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: but we have some things to hit. 664 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: You're listening to the Lounge podcast. We are coming with 665 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: you from the Sea Geek Studio. We also want to 666 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: mention our partners with Draft King sports Book. They are 667 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 3: an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft 668 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: King Sports Book. The crown is yours. So the big 669 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: news over the break this is this is often like 670 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: the vacation time for a lot of guys around the league. 671 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 3: You get like one last vacation before you come back 672 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: for a training camp and then it's you know, pedal 673 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: to the medal for the rest of the year. So 674 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton clearly is on vacation and it wasn't just 675 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: a vacation for him. He also packed a ring and 676 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: popped the question and got engaged. So congratulations to Kyle France, right, yeah, 677 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 3: look it was France. It was cool. 678 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got romantic places. 679 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, So congratulations to Kyle on the engagement. That's exciting news. 680 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep. 681 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: Now becomes even better player. Right he's married. 682 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: He's a married man now, right, Like this just levels 683 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: up your game. 684 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, very very cool stuff there. And 685 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: then the other news from the past week is not 686 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: really news but interesting tidbit on social media, which is 687 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: where we get the news during this slow time. Is 688 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Ze Flowers and to two at well running 689 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: hills back in Florida and getting their work in during 690 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: the time off. Looks like something straight out of Friday 691 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: Night Lights. Yeah, getting those hill workouts and so good 692 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: to see that. 693 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: Well, we saw Derek Henry also, he's kind of famous 694 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: for running hills. When he was in here when he 695 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: signed his contract, he talked about running those hills and 696 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: guys always talking to him about that, and and maybe 697 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: it seems like it's rubbing off a little bit. But 698 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: also Zay and Lamar were throwing as well. They weren't 699 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: just getting the hill workouts in, but they were also 700 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 3: throwing down in Florida. But that's something that Lamar has 701 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 3: talked about that he likes getting together with, especially the 702 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: guys in Florida to tail to too at well as 703 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 3: a Florida guy, So that's the connection that exists there. 704 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: But him and Zay both South Florida guys and so 705 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: like they use this time to just build the foundation 706 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: for training Camp. So it's good to see them working 707 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: and like it just even just seeing that gets you 708 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: just a little bit more excited for training Camp, like 709 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: Lamar and Zay working together, Like I'm just I can't 710 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: wait for these guys to get back here in a 711 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: couple of weeks and really hit the ground running. 712 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: To me, it's when I watched that video, It's just like, 713 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: even though these guys are NFL superstars, like something's just 714 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: never changed. It's just like, what do we do during 715 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: the summer to stay in shape. We go back to 716 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: the backfield, you know, out behind some community center or 717 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: whatever and run this giant hill Like I could like 718 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: see them doing the same exact thing during high school. Yeah, 719 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, and so it's just it's just kind of 720 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: cool to see him like go back to, you know, 721 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: the roots of like where it all started, is like 722 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: working out on that hill and getting better. And I 723 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just it's just like, so Lamar Jackson 724 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: say Florida thing. Yeah, you know, I mean Derek Henry 725 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: is a Florida guy too, Right, Maybe it's like run 726 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: the hills Giant Ones is just a Florida thing. 727 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, but Derek works out in Dallas during 728 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 3: the I. 729 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: Know, but like he's originally a Florida guy. There's hills everywhere. 730 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: The hills are solely in Florida. 731 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: There's not too many. I used to run hills when 732 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: I was playing soccer. 733 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: They weren't as big as O's and I didn't run 734 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: them nearly as fast, but I ran them. 735 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 3: It was a barf that I'm plotting up the hills, yes, exactly. 736 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. 737 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: I just think that's it's cool to see like even 738 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: one of the world's biggest sports star is still doing that. 739 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, look, there's always Lamar has always been somebody 740 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: who's kind of true to his roots and that has 741 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: remained in him even as he's reached this level of stardom. So, 742 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: like I said, it just gets me excited for the 743 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: season seeing these guys kind of build that foundation for 744 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 3: the upcoming year. And as we talked about throughout this like, 745 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 3: there's big expectations on the same and I think these 746 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: guys understand that and they're putting in the work to 747 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: you ready for it. 748 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for listening, as always, leave us a 749 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: rating and review and make sure you're subscribed. Thank you 750 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: to all of our listeners, and we'll be back with 751 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: you later.