WEBVTT - ...The Gunpowder Treason and Plot

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and Grim and Mild from Aaron Mankey Listener discretion advised.

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<v Speaker 1>This is part two of our series on the Gunpowder plot.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't listened to last week's episode, you should

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<v Speaker 1>probably start there. On the evening of October twenty six five,

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<v Speaker 1>a man walked through the streets of London with the

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<v Speaker 1>weight of his treason jostling uneasily inside his coat pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to imagine this man periodically grasping at the

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<v Speaker 1>same patch of cloth on his chest as he made

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<v Speaker 1>it through the throngs of Londoners casually strolling to their

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday evening dinner lands, a minor heart attack ensuing each

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<v Speaker 1>time until he felt the envelopes reassuring crinkle underneath his

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<v Speaker 1>layers of outerwear. Though even as his fingers brushed against

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<v Speaker 1>the paper's edge, the letters contents likely kept the man

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<v Speaker 1>from feeling anything close to reassurance. The truth was the

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<v Speaker 1>man was carrying not one, but two accounts of treason

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<v Speaker 1>on his person. The first belonged to his participation in

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<v Speaker 1>the planned Catholic coup against the British Protestant government set

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<v Speaker 1>to take place in Parliament in just ten days, on

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth of November, the same plot that had a

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<v Speaker 1>man named Guy Fox overseeing thirty six barrels of gunpowder

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<v Speaker 1>underneath the floors of Parliament, just waiting for the order

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<v Speaker 1>to give the whole building and everyone inside of it

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<v Speaker 1>a fireworks show, the likes of which they had never

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<v Speaker 1>and undoubtedly would never see again. The second account of

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<v Speaker 1>treason was not against the British government, but against the

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<v Speaker 1>group behind the gunpowder plot itself. For in the rumpled

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<v Speaker 1>envelope in the man's jacket pocket was not information for

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<v Speaker 1>his co conspirators, but a warning for their enemy, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was cold feet or a sudden burst of humanity

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<v Speaker 1>invading the man's conscience. The evening of October twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>found this man stalking the streets of London in search

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<v Speaker 1>of the servant to one Lord Monteagle. Later, when recalling

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<v Speaker 1>the encounter, the servant would only be able to characterize

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<v Speaker 1>the man who had stopped him as a quote man

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<v Speaker 1>of reasonable tall personage unquote. In the centuries to come,

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<v Speaker 1>historians would come a little closer to establishing the man's

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<v Speaker 1>true identity. Could it have been Thomas Percy, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the five men who had first conspired to blow up

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<v Speaker 1>Parliament alongside Guy Fox and Robert Catesby at the Duck

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<v Speaker 1>and Drake Inn in May six o four. If not him,

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<v Speaker 1>was there a chance this mysterious man wasn't even related

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<v Speaker 1>to the plot at all? Was he just a courier

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<v Speaker 1>sent in someone else's stead, or is it possible, well,

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<v Speaker 1>did this man even exist? Maybe Lord Monteagle staged this

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<v Speaker 1>entire scene in his account to King James so as

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<v Speaker 1>to distance himself from the knowledge he had otherwise how

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<v Speaker 1>come to acquire. The truth will likely remain lost to history.

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<v Speaker 1>Who this man actually was walking through London with the

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<v Speaker 1>letter in his pocket, or whether he had even existed

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<v Speaker 1>at all, But the words of that letter, written in

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<v Speaker 1>their hasty, near allegible scrawl, would be remembered long after

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<v Speaker 1>the mysterious man who stopped Lord Monteagal's servant disappeared into

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<v Speaker 1>the night. Quote, my Lord, out of the love I

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<v Speaker 1>bear to some of your friends, I have a care

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<v Speaker 1>of your preservation. Therefore I would advise you to devise

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<v Speaker 1>some excuse to shift of your attendance at this Parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>For though there be no appearance of any stir yet,

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<v Speaker 1>I say they shall receive a terrible blow. I'm Danis Schwartz,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is noble blood. Upon receiving the rumpled letter

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<v Speaker 1>from his servant, Lord Montagal wasn't entirely sure what to think.

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<v Speaker 1>On one hand, the late hour in which the note arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>in conjunction with the poor penmanship and odd channels it

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<v Speaker 1>had taken to get to him in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>all added up to something more akin to a prank

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<v Speaker 1>than a real warning. After all, who would be crazy

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<v Speaker 1>enough to actually conspire a terrible blow against the whole

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<v Speaker 1>of Parliament? Well, if you need a quick recap as

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<v Speaker 1>to exactly who was crazy enough to attempt to blow

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<v Speaker 1>up Parliament, allow me to briefly bring you up to speed.

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<v Speaker 1>In response to Queen Elizabeth the First and King James's

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<v Speaker 1>persecution of British Catholics in the late sixteenth and early

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth centuries, a group of five Catholic recusants led by

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<v Speaker 1>a man named Robert Catesby, met in London at the

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<v Speaker 1>Duck and Drake Inn in May sixteen o four to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss the beginnings of what would come to be known

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<v Speaker 1>as the Gunpowder Plot. Sitting at the table next to Catesby,

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<v Speaker 1>where his second in command Thomas Wintour, the renowned swordsman

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Wright, a guardsman of the Earl of Northumberland, Thomas Percy,

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<v Speaker 1>and notorious explosive as expert Guy Fox. Together the men

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to plot an attack against Parliament and the King,

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<v Speaker 1>a plot which took the form of Thomas Percy acquiring

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<v Speaker 1>the storage space underneath the House of Parliament so Guy

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<v Speaker 1>Fox could pose as a footman named John Johnson, who

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<v Speaker 1>would then smuggle thirty six barrels of gunpowder hidden underneath

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<v Speaker 1>piles of firewood into its depths, to be set off

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<v Speaker 1>on the inning day of Parliament when the King would

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<v Speaker 1>be present November five, six o five, after which Catesby,

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<v Speaker 1>Wintour and Right would spread news of the King's death

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<v Speaker 1>in the Midlands, kidnapped the King's daughter, Princess Elizabeth, and

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<v Speaker 1>established her as England's next Catholic ruler. And while Lord

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<v Speaker 1>Montegal likely had no prior knowledge of the plot and

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<v Speaker 1>therefore questioned its authenticity, his servant held no such doubts.

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<v Speaker 1>As it happened, Monteagal servant actually had close family ties

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<v Speaker 1>to the family of one of the original conspirators, Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Wright the Swordsman. So when Lord Montegal eventually decided to

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<v Speaker 1>air on the side of caution and send word to

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<v Speaker 1>warn his colleagues, his servant had already sent word to

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<v Speaker 1>write relaying the betrayal within their ranks. Upon unreceiving word

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<v Speaker 1>from Right that they had been betrayed, Katesby and his

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<v Speaker 1>second in command, Win Tour, immediately tried to weed out

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<v Speaker 1>the trader in their ranks, but this proved to be

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<v Speaker 1>a flaw in their own design, because while Percy and

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<v Speaker 1>Fox had been left to deal with the practical measures

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<v Speaker 1>of securing a location for the gunpowder to be placed

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<v Speaker 1>to ensure maximum destruction, Katesby and win Tour had been

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<v Speaker 1>busy recruiting additional conspirators to help in the plot, and

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<v Speaker 1>by mid October the number of plotters had risen from

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<v Speaker 1>the original five that had met at the Duck and

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<v Speaker 1>Drake to a sizeable thirteen. Of course, more help also

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<v Speaker 1>meant more mouths to keep quiet, and if the letter

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<v Speaker 1>was any indication, As the date of the attack drew closer,

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<v Speaker 1>at least one of the men began to get cold feet.

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<v Speaker 1>In the ten intervening days between the discovery of the

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<v Speaker 1>Monteagal Letter and the opening of Parliament. Chaos and panic

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<v Speaker 1>rose like a fog in the London streets. The leaked

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<v Speaker 1>letter caused tensions among the conspirators to run higher with

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<v Speaker 1>each passing day, until finally some of the newer recruits

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<v Speaker 1>began to openly voice their doubts to Ktesby. In the end,

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<v Speaker 1>even Thomas Wintoor all but begged Ktesby to call off

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<v Speaker 1>the plot, but predictably, he couldn't be swayed. The end

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<v Speaker 1>was near and he wanted to see it through, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter the cost. With the clock running down, on the

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<v Speaker 1>evening of November fourth, Ktesby and Wright rode off for

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<v Speaker 1>the Midlands, getting in position ready to enact the rebellion

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<v Speaker 1>that would follow the initial blow to parliam Mint, which

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<v Speaker 1>would take place the following day. But back in London,

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<v Speaker 1>authorities were already beginning to unravel their plans days previously.

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<v Speaker 1>On the first of November, King James became privy to

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<v Speaker 1>the contents of the so called Monteagle Letter, and by

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<v Speaker 1>November four he had guards searching at the Palace of

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<v Speaker 1>Westminster for anything that could cause the letters ominous blow

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<v Speaker 1>to Parliament. It was then that officials stumbled upon a

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<v Speaker 1>peculiar seller directly below the floors of Parliament, stacked Florida

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling with bundles of firewood. Upon this first inspection, authorities

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<v Speaker 1>could find no reason for suspicion. While its appearance was

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<v Speaker 1>undoubtedly odd, there was no law specifically forbidding the storage

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<v Speaker 1>of what likely seemed like an excessive amount of firewood.

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<v Speaker 1>In the sellers available for rent in the Palace of Westminster.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a man some sort of servant that happened

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<v Speaker 1>to be near the seller at the time of inspection,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was similarly not cause for any overt sense

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<v Speaker 1>of alarm. It was only after the inspectors left the

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<v Speaker 1>scene that they discovered the peculiar seller in question belonged

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<v Speaker 1>to none other than Thomas Percy, a man who was

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<v Speaker 1>coincidentally good friends with Lord Monteagle, and whose Catholic sympathies

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<v Speaker 1>were of relatively common knowledge. That friendship, for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>is why some suspect the man who delivered the letter

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<v Speaker 1>to be Percy or one of his servants working on

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<v Speaker 1>his behalf. That connection led the king to demand a

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<v Speaker 1>second search of the seller, whereupon they happened on a

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<v Speaker 1>far more anister scene than they had uncovered during their

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<v Speaker 1>first investigation. When authorities arrived at the cell for a

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<v Speaker 1>second time, the servant that had been present earlier was

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<v Speaker 1>there again, only now he had undergone a rather ominous

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<v Speaker 1>costume change. The servant, who identified himself as John Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>was dressed in riding clothes, as if ready to make

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<v Speaker 1>a quick getaway. When searched, investigators found a watch and

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<v Speaker 1>long stemmed matches hidden in the folds of his cloak,

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<v Speaker 1>leading them once again to take a look at the

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<v Speaker 1>copious amount of firewood stacked in the cellar before them.

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<v Speaker 1>It was then that they discovered, underneath the bundles of

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<v Speaker 1>wood lay thirty six barrels of gunpowder, waiting for one

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<v Speaker 1>long stemmed match to spark the devastating blow to Parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>By the early hours of November five five, the Gunpowder

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<v Speaker 1>plot was one stiff breeze away from complete and utter collapse.

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<v Speaker 1>The first call for arrest was for the man whose

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<v Speaker 1>name was on the lease of the gunpowder filled seller,

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas Percy. Unbeknownst to authorities, Percy was already well on

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<v Speaker 1>his way to meet Kateesby in the Midlands to help

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<v Speaker 1>enact the second phase of their plot. But while Percy

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<v Speaker 1>rode to see what he believed would be the gunpowder

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<v Speaker 1>plots inevitable success all across London, the remaining conspirators were

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<v Speaker 1>taking to horseback in a an altogether much less optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>and more panicked state of mind. With Fox in custody,

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<v Speaker 1>the writing was on the wall. It was only a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of time before the authorities came barreling down their doors.

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<v Speaker 1>Following his arrest, Fox, known as John Johnson at this

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<v Speaker 1>point refused to give up his real name or the

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<v Speaker 1>names of his co conspirators. Instead, he calmly claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>the idea was his own. Refusing to show any remorse

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<v Speaker 1>for his actions, he told his interrogators the devil and

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<v Speaker 1>not God, was to blame for the discovery of the plot.

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<v Speaker 1>After nearly two days of interrogation, on November six, King

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<v Speaker 1>James finally ordered for the man who claimed to be

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<v Speaker 1>John Johnson to be taken to the Tower of London

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<v Speaker 1>to be tortured until he gave up information pertaining to

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<v Speaker 1>the failed attack on Parliament. Within a day of being

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<v Speaker 1>put on the torture rack, John Johnson revealed himself to

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<v Speaker 1>be Guy Fox, and by November seven. The oath of

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<v Speaker 1>secrecy he had sworn at the Duck and Drake Inn

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half prior had all but crumbled.

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<v Speaker 1>While Fox began to crack. Some hundred miles north of London,

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<v Speaker 1>Ktesby and his men were preparing for a final stand

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<v Speaker 1>of their own. By this point, Thomas Percy had managed

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<v Speaker 1>to find his kinsmen, but the joy in their reunion

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<v Speaker 1>was cut short after another conspirator delivered the horrifying news

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<v Speaker 1>of Fox's capture. The gunpowder hadn't gone off the Parliament

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<v Speaker 1>House and all those who were meant to be inside

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<v Speaker 1>remained unharmed, and the recusant revolution they had been willing

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<v Speaker 1>to kill for was crumbling under their feet. But even

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<v Speaker 1>in the face of their inevitable failure, Katesby was nothing

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<v Speaker 1>if not consistent. Instead of fleeing, as many of the

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<v Speaker 1>other conspirators attempted to do, he decided to double down

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<v Speaker 1>on the second part of their plan, spreading word that

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<v Speaker 1>King James had died and urging his Catholic brethren to

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<v Speaker 1>rise up and unite to place a Catholic leader on

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<v Speaker 1>the throne. Unfortunately for Catesby, even the false news of

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<v Speaker 1>King James's death could only seem to rally about forty

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<v Speaker 1>men to his cause, not nearly enough to stand a

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<v Speaker 1>chance against the hundreds that were preparing to ride out

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<v Speaker 1>against them the next morning. On the evening of November seven, Exhausted, demoralized,

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<v Speaker 1>and chilled from trekking through the wet British countryside, Catesby

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<v Speaker 1>and his men built a fire and set up camp

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<v Speaker 1>outside hul Bish House in Staffordshire. With mud and damp

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<v Speaker 1>clinging to everything from their clothes to their supplies, the

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<v Speaker 1>men decided to use what little remained of their collective

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<v Speaker 1>brain power to dry out their gunpowder next to an

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<v Speaker 1>open bonfire, which is how a little less than two

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<v Speaker 1>days later than planned, the Gunpowder plot conspirators finally got

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<v Speaker 1>the explosion they had been waiting for. Unfortunately for them,

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<v Speaker 1>the blast took place approximately a hundred and thirty miles

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<v Speaker 1>from their intended target. The explosion caused several of the

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<v Speaker 1>men present to suffer from burns of varying degrees. It

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<v Speaker 1>blinded one of them, and left all of them with

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<v Speaker 1>a significantly depleted supply of gunpowder with which to defend

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<v Speaker 1>themselves from the authorities who would reach them by the

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<v Speaker 1>following morning, as the few remaining men who hadn't yet

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<v Speaker 1>deserted and were relatively unburned enough to fight, gathered to regroup.

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<v Speaker 1>When they asked what they were to do, Catesby had

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<v Speaker 1>but one answer, we mean here to die. At eleven

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock the next morning, the High Sheriff of Worcestershire arrived

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<v Speaker 1>at Hulbush House with upwards of two hundred men, ready

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<v Speaker 1>to face off with Katesby's meager brigade. But for as

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<v Speaker 1>much firepower as the high Sheriff brought, the ensuing shootout

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<v Speaker 1>was over in a matter of minutes. Of the five

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<v Speaker 1>men who had begun the gunpowder trees and all those

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<v Speaker 1>months before at the Duck and Drake Inn, three of

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<v Speaker 1>them would die on the grounds of hull Bush House

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<v Speaker 1>that morning. Thomas Wintour would escape death with just a

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<v Speaker 1>gunshot wound to his shoulder, but Jack Wright, Thomas Percy,

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<v Speaker 1>and Robert Catesby were all struck down in the musket fire. Fox,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, was in the midst of confessing after his

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<v Speaker 1>ordeal and during the torture rack in the Tower of London.

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<v Speaker 1>When they recovered Katesby's body, they discovered he had used

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<v Speaker 1>his final moments to crawl toward a picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>Virgin Mary, holding on to his beliefs as he passed

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<v Speaker 1>from one life to the next. In the coming weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>Wintour and Fox would both be sentenced to death for

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<v Speaker 1>their treason, and would both ultimately hang from a noose

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<v Speaker 1>in the Old Palace Yard at Westminster, mere feet away

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<v Speaker 1>from the building they had attempted to destroy. Days before

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<v Speaker 1>their execution. On January twenty third, sixteen o six, Parliament,

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<v Speaker 1>under King James the First would pass the Thanksgiving Act,

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<v Speaker 1>the yearly observance every fifth of November commemorating the day

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<v Speaker 1>the monarchy was saved from the group of Catholic recusants

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<v Speaker 1>who sought to blow up Parliament. Four hundred years later,

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<v Speaker 1>that celebration would morph into the campy pyrotechnic display known

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<v Speaker 1>as Bonfire Night that contin used to be celebrated annually

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<v Speaker 1>every November five across the UK. Though the historical basis

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<v Speaker 1>of the holiday stayed the same, the ways in which

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<v Speaker 1>it's now celebrated, and consequently what the holiday has come

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<v Speaker 1>to mean, have absolutely changed over time. What used to

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<v Speaker 1>serve as an annual reminder of the day the monarchy

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<v Speaker 1>prevailed over an English Catholic act of terrorism has shifted

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<v Speaker 1>into a mostly secular holiday. But more than that, Foxes

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<v Speaker 1>legacy has shifted from universally hated villain to more rebel

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<v Speaker 1>we love to hate. The popularity of the Guy Fox

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<v Speaker 1>mask in pop culture and the resulting impact on his

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<v Speaker 1>legacy is just one example of the undeniable truth that history,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how hard we try to carve it in stone,

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<v Speaker 1>will always be subjective. The legacy of the Gunpowder Treason

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<v Speaker 1>will likely continue to change, just as it has for

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of years, but there is one fact that is

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<v Speaker 1>for certain. As long as it's fun to gather together

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<v Speaker 1>and light things on fire, history will almost certainly remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the five of November. That was the end of

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<v Speaker 1>our two part series on the failed Gunpowder Plot, But

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<v Speaker 1>stick around after a sponsor break to hear a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about how Guy Fox's image has been used

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<v Speaker 1>in the four hundred years since his execution. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>today was the first time you heard of the Gunpowder Plot,

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<v Speaker 1>chances are you've seen Guy Fox's face, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>a version of it. A stark white face, slits for eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>prominent cheekbones, and inhumanly symmetrical facial hair that looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's been drawn on with a marker. The Guy Fox

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<v Speaker 1>mask is a staple at most Halloween stores, especially since

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<v Speaker 1>v for Vendetta. Its distinct lack of humanity in a

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<v Speaker 1>face meant to embody the every man, or in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>every guy, makes it all the more creepy, though in reality,

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<v Speaker 1>this may be more of a commentary on how Guy

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<v Speaker 1>Fox's image has been replicated over the centuries, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>an actual attempt to depict the real face of the

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<v Speaker 1>real Guy Fox. The truth is, while there are some

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<v Speaker 1>written accounts about Fox's appearance, any physical representation of his

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<v Speaker 1>likeness are really just images that have been passed through

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<v Speaker 1>a few too many games of historical telephone, each iteration

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<v Speaker 1>meant to make him more villain like than the last.

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<v Speaker 1>In Antonio Frasier's excellent biography on the Gunpowder Plot, she

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<v Speaker 1>describes Fox as being a quote tall, powerfully built man

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<v Speaker 1>with thick, reddish brown hair, a flowing mustache in the

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<v Speaker 1>tradition of the time, and a bushy, reddish brown beard.

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<v Speaker 1>Historical prints of Fox border on cartoonish, but most portray

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<v Speaker 1>him as tall and thin, with long, angular facial features.

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<v Speaker 1>And a dubious looking mustache, all features I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>point out that could describe more than a handful of

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<v Speaker 1>classic childhood cartoon villains. The fact that artists have portrayed

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<v Speaker 1>Fox in this way is not wholly surprising, after all,

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<v Speaker 1>he is burned in effigy on a yearly basis, but

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<v Speaker 1>it does make the emergence of the Guy Fox mask

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<v Speaker 1>that much more intriguing. The Guy Fox mask as we

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<v Speaker 1>know it today didn't really come into massive popularity until

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<v Speaker 1>after the release of the movie based on the graphic

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<v Speaker 1>novel Fifa Vendetta in two thousand five. Although the film

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<v Speaker 1>is a now relatively well known cultural touchstone, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>break any box office numbers. In fact, a comic con

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<v Speaker 1>that year, Warner Brothers gave out free Guy Fox masks

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<v Speaker 1>from the film to promote the movie. The result of

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<v Speaker 1>that promotion would be the birth of a meme on

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<v Speaker 1>four Chan in two thousand and six called epic Fail Guy,

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<v Speaker 1>which showed a stick figure finding a Guy Fox mask

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<v Speaker 1>in a garbage bin. From four Chan. The activist group

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<v Speaker 1>known as Anonymous would adopt the mask to use as

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<v Speaker 1>their face, spurring other protest movements to begin to use

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<v Speaker 1>the Guy Fox ask as the symbol of anarchy and

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<v Speaker 1>rebellion that the comic and eventual two thousand five movie

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<v Speaker 1>adaptation made it out to be in the first place. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>there are so many layers to this, like how the

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<v Speaker 1>Occupy Wall Street movement in two thousand eleven used the

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<v Speaker 1>Guy Fox mask, which was produced and sold by Time Warner,

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<v Speaker 1>to embody an anti capitalist regime, or how Guy Fox

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<v Speaker 1>himself was not fighting for anarchy but for what has

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<v Speaker 1>to be the least punk rock institution of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church. But ultimately, it all boils down to

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<v Speaker 1>how Guy Fox's legacy has simultaneously continued to change over time,

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<v Speaker 1>yet somehow it always remains sort of the same. The

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<v Speaker 1>rolls Guy Fox has embodied over the last four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years have run the gambit from villain to anti hero,

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<v Speaker 1>but his characterizations were never meant to embody body who

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<v Speaker 1>he was as a singular person. Instead, Guy Fox has

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<v Speaker 1>always been the face of a group, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>Catesby and his co conspirators or the entire anonymous organization.

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<v Speaker 1>The use of Fox's name in public discourse has always

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<v Speaker 1>been to condemn or celebrate the actions of a collective,

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<v Speaker 1>not a singular man. It's enough to make you wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what Guy would have thought about his legacy, if you

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<v Speaker 1>would have resented being forever the face of a collective,

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<v Speaker 1>or if he would have relished the sacrifice of his

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<v Speaker 1>personhood in favor of continuing to represent something far bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than one person ever could. Noble Blood is a production

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<v Speaker 1>of I Heart Radio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Mankey.

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<v Speaker 1>Noble Blood is hosted by me Danish Wortz. Additional writing

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<v Speaker 1>and researching done by Hannah Johnston, hannah's Wick, Miura Hayward,

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney Sunder, and Laurie Goodman. The show is produced by

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<v Speaker 1>rema Il Kali, with supervising producer Josh Thayne and executive

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<v Speaker 1>producers Aaron Mankey, Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. For more

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