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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality with the King, we have

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Speaker 1: to talk about how Mary Cosby changed the game. And

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Speaker 1: and I fell in love this genre because I enjoy working,

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Speaker 1: don't know, but that show was number one for a

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Speaker 1: back in the mail. You ps that bitch. Put a

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Speaker 1: post stamps on it, first class priority mail. Ship it back, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm over it. I'm over it. I'm over it. Child.

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Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the King,

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Speaker 1: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 1: you to think a storyline at what cost? Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like Mary wasn't aware there was a camera

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Speaker 1: for screaming, turn down the volume if you're driving in

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Speaker 1: We don't like me a Thorn's storyline. It's not it's

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Speaker 1: too love and hip hop? First of all, what does

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Speaker 1: What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Some of

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Speaker 1: y'all just hate y'allselves in y'all community, But I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna go there. On this podcast. It's all about Mary,

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Speaker 1: hence the title of this podcast being there's something about Mary, Okay.

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Speaker 1: The only way I could understand this truly is if

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Speaker 1: Robert Junior was like, thirteen, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: think it's okay to watch a prank on a show

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Speaker 1: about this person. Huh. Get the child, girl, honey, boo boo,

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Speaker 1: and then listen. A lot of the girls read Ali

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Speaker 1: before you go off on a tangent that is unsolicited

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Speaker 1: to Ali, Honey, they're reading you. Boo. They got receipts timeline, Okay,

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