1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh, i's you. I Smell 2 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: pop Culture with Eastern Allen and I Heart Radio podcast. 3 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Easton Allen. I Smell pop Culture one of 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: eleven productions iHeart Radio, iHeart Media, I Heart Podcasts. This 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: is I Am all In. I Smell pop Culture. As 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: I mentioned before, my name is Easton Allen. It's nice 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: to meet you. If you're just joining us. Here's what 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: we do here on this show. We love the pop 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: culture references and Gilmore girls. We eat them up, we 10 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: can't get enough. And because of that, we are going 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: to explore these pop culture references. We're going deeper. We're 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: going to talk to the people behind them. We're going 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: to talk to the people there about We're going to 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: talk to the artists, the magic meekers, the dream casters 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: that create these pop culture moments, and learn more about 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: and what makes a pop culture figure. This week, we're 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: doing something really, really special. I am personally so excited 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: about the guests we have this week. Every guest on 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: this show is a dream come true for me, but 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: this one in particular is a longtime idol of mine. 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: So listen, a few rock lobsters. We're headed to our 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: own private Idaho and you can roam if you want to. 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: But if you see a faded sign on the side 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: of the road that says fifteen miles to the podocast. 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: iHeart Podcasts, listen on the iHeartRadio app. 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: All right, hey everybody, thanks for listening to those commercials. 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: We love it. I need to put food on my 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: table and I need to pay my mortgage, So thank 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: you so much for listening to those commercials and spending 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: your money there with those great promo codes. My name 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: is Easton Allen. This is the Ice Mal pop Culture 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: podcast on I Am all In. You're listening to the 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: right place. If you love Gilmore Girls, you are in 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: the right spot. Thank you to Scott Patterson, our our 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: fearless leader, for letting me do this. We're talking to 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: a very exciting person today. So this individual that we're 37 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: talking to is part of a band that has been 38 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: referenced many times in Gomer Girls. But specifically, we're going 39 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: to go back to a scene we've already explored. This 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: is like a peanut, butter and jelly moment. We are 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: double dipping here. On the Pop Culture Season one episode 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: for The Deer Hunter, we explored this. When we interviewed 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Mario Lopez a few weeks ago, Rory and Loralai are 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: Lukes are talking about Rory's first D. She's very embarrassed. 45 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Lorelei affirms that this d is less humiliating than admitting 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: that she watched Save by the Bell. We talked about 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: that already, But what really strikes me about this scene 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: in particular is when Laura Lai enters Luke's diner. She 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: is wearing a B fifty two's shirt, a shirt of 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: the first album It's Sick as Hell. It's so cool. 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: It really made me personally connect with Laura I so 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: much more. I am a huge Bee fifty twos fan, 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: just like Laura Lei. And they've been mentioned many times 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: throughout Gilmour Girls. They've played the music, they have just 55 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: referenced the B fifty two's, and today we are going 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: to talk to one of the founding members from the 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: B fifty two's, Kate Pearson. She's been in the band 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy six. She's been with them the whole time. 59 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: She's written all your favorite songs rock Lobster, Rome, Love Shack, 60 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: so many more, and she has a solo album out 61 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: called Radios and Rainbows. We'll talk all about that. And 62 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, even if you're not a B fifty two's fan, 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: I guarantee you know her voice, you know her red hair, 64 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: her unforgettable looks. So many B fifty two songs are 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: just deep in the fabric of pop culture and we're 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: going to get into all of it now. We're going 67 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: to talk Gilmore Girls with her. We're going to talk 68 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: about the Flintstones. We're talking about at all. And Kate 69 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: Pearson is here and Kate, hi, thanks for doing this. 70 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: I love your T shirt. 71 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be weird, I promise. I am 72 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: a very big fan. We're very excited to do this. 73 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: My name's Easton. It's so nice to meet you. 74 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: Nice meeting you. But I harkened back to that T 75 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: shirt when we first went the only time the B 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: fifty two's played in Japan, and we were worried about 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: the name. Obviously, I thought, oh my god, we better 78 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: change our name. So we thought about all these different names, 79 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: including like Fellini's Children, the Attack Elephants, all these different names, 80 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: and we decided, well, we just couldn't, you know, we 81 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: had to stick with the B fifty twos and when 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: we went there, the regular company sort of launched this campaign, 83 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: you know, wigs not bombers. They totally got it. The 84 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: kids got it. 85 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: Kate Pearson is with us from the B fifty two. 86 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: She's talking about my If you can't see this, you 87 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: probably can't, but this is my I'm wearing a B 88 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: fifty two's T shirt and it has a B fifty 89 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: two bomber saying not this this, and it's got a 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: beehive haircut. It's it's an awesome shirt. Thank you so 91 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: much for doing this. We're going to dive right in. 92 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: I love that story. And actually I read is it 93 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: true that the name be fifty twos came to Ricky 94 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Wilson like in a dream? Is that right? 95 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: Actually it was Keith Strickland. 96 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: Keith Strickland, that's right. 97 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. It was sort of awaking, you know, he was 98 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: half awake and he was thinking. He was envisioning this, 99 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: all these women with big beehive hairdoos playing organs, and 100 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: someone whispered in his ear, you know who's that? And 101 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: he heard this. It just came to him, that's the 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: B fifty two's, And he suggested that name to the band, 103 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 2: and we had lists and lists and lists of names, 104 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: but that just just seemed right. 105 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: I love reading the story of how the band started because, 106 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: and please correct me if I have this right, you're 107 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: sharing a flaming volcano drink at a restaurant and then 108 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: you start jamming. You go to a jam session after that, 109 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: and you just start jamming and then playing at these 110 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: like parties. It seems like such an organic and like 111 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: just a natural way for a band to start, right totally. 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: I'm just sort of amazed, and I think back on 113 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: it that no one said, hey, let's start a band 114 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 2: like keyboard and you can play drums. It just started 115 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: that night when we had there must have been something 116 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: magic in that flaming volcano. But we couldn't afford food, 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: so we just got the flaming volcano and it had 118 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: six straws because there were six of us there, including 119 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 2: our friend Owen Scott, who became a clinical psychologist because 120 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: he joined the jam session. But it was his house 121 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: and he had all these instruments. He was also a 122 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: musician is still, so he had all these instruments. We 123 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: started jamming. He was working on a paper upstairs, and 124 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: then we just came up with a song called Killer 125 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: Bees and it had a chorus that was basically buzz 126 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: buzz buzz, and it was about the killer bees coming 127 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: up from South America and so I don't think they've arrived. 128 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: Yet, They're still coming. 129 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: It was the Killer Wasp, so we still have to 130 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: look out. But that was that sort of set the 131 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: template for the rest of our the way we wrote 132 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: collectively and jammed, because most of our songs are written 133 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: by jamming, and that's why we come up with such 134 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 2: off the wall kind of crazy stuff. 135 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: You can hear that energy in the music. I love 136 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: hearing that, Like that's how you're writing, you're just jamming 137 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 1: and playing. 138 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a lot of cassette tapeset of our jams, 139 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: and it's just, you know, we talk a lot and 140 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: then there's crazy jams and all kinds of and we 141 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: would just sort of pick parts out and kind of 142 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: collage them together. So that's kind of how we composed 143 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: our songs, which weren't always just full of sort of 144 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: non sequiturs. I guess. 145 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: I have so many questions about about crafting those iconic hits. 146 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: But there was a time about a couple of years 147 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: ago I went. I stayed up like all night, and 148 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I watched every interview I could find that you guys 149 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: did in like the late eighties and early nineties, like 150 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: every TV interview, and it was so fun and the 151 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: thing that suck out to me, Like I was watching 152 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: you guys like on Our Senile and stuff like that, 153 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: and you everyone in the band treats each other with 154 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: such respect and such love, and you can see that 155 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: like no one's like fighting for attention. Uh, there's such 156 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: real friendship and love there, and I just you don't 157 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: see it a lot often with bands, And I just 158 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: wanted to know, like, has that always just that love, 159 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: that friendship has not always been there? Is that something 160 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: important to you guys? 161 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: Well, if that's how we started, we were friends first, 162 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: and so we were part of a larger group in Athens, Georgia, 163 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: you know, and we were wild and went crashed parties 164 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: and danced wildly and loved to dance and listen to music, 165 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: and we were all kind of experimenting with music. I 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: had a band in high school and I wrote songs, 167 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: and Keith and Rickey wrote together, and Cindy played with them, 168 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: and Fred did his poems and jam with Keith, so 169 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: we all had some interplay, but nothing very formal at all. 170 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: And so I think that friendship really know kept us going. 171 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: That's what we know each other so well. And yes 172 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: there have been times when yeah, it's like, uh, who's 173 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: who's in the middle, you know, I'm always on the 174 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: end or something. But it's always worked out. We never 175 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: really plan like what are we gonna wear? It always 176 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: just comes together. It's just sort of magically, Oh, we're 177 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: all wearing gold and we're still I think we're better 178 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: in a better place now than we ever have been, 179 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: you know, doing our Vegas residencies and some festivals and 180 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: special shows. You know, we really enjoy getting together and 181 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: sense of humor is what's kept us kind of just laughing. 182 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: And Fred's always cracking jokes and we have a band 183 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: thread where he's always sending crazy stuff. 184 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: Uh that makes me so happy to hear as a fan, 185 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: like your your music is so like you said, it's 186 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: out there you Uh it was made through these like 187 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: jam sessions when you had to go into the studio 188 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: to start recording. How how was that process, because like 189 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: recording a record that has to be very you know, 190 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: red mention what you have to have a plane out 191 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: what you're going to do. How is that transition? 192 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: Well, the first record we did, we flew, we were 193 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: it's kind of whirlwind we got. We were going from 194 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: Athens to New York City and playing these clubs CBGB's 195 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: and Hurrahs and of course Maxis Kansas City, and all 196 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: of a sudden we got a record deal and we 197 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: were flying to the Bahamas and being you know, produced 198 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: by Chris Blackwell at this beautiful studio in the Bahamas, 199 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: Compass Point, and we were thinking, oh that he's really 200 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: going to make us sound really fuller and better. And 201 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: Chris Blackwell put his feet up on the console and 202 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: smoked a joint and said, you know, just play. And 203 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: when we heard the record, well, you know, the final 204 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: result was exactly how we sounded, because he wanted us 205 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: to play everything we played, you know, live, and he 206 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: wanted us to sound live. And that was a genius, 207 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: genius decision that he made, because we thought, oh my god, 208 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: we were disappointed we don't sound better, but it really 209 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: captured are that just sparse kind of weirdness that we 210 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: have and kind of a unique quality that only the 211 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: BB fifty twos have. I think there's no band that 212 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: sounds like us. He really captured that on the first album, 213 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: and also the cover was very sort of captured the vibe. 214 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: What a great way to be introduced to the world 215 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: at large with that record. I just love it. It's 216 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: got such great energy. Something else I wanted to ask 217 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: you about, especially like early in your career. I love 218 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: that when I watched those old interviews, you are also 219 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: outspoken about these causes that are important to you, like LGBTQ, 220 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: plus equality, the right to choose, Like you're go on 221 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: these like pretty big talk shows and talking about this 222 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: stuff at a point where not a lot of people were. 223 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: And I really admired that, and it really it made 224 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: me emotional watch that. And was that challenging for you 225 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: guys to be like that at that point? 226 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: Because when we started we made a decision. You know, 227 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: we were all pretty we were all aligned politically, and 228 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: we didn't really want to hit people over the heads 229 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: with politics. We wanted people to dance and have fun 230 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: and party. But we put our messages in there. And 231 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: even in the early songs like Private Idaho has it 232 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: references anyway, All our songs have little references to political 233 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: things or current events. But after Ricky died of AIDS 234 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty five, for a while we didn't say 235 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 2: much because we didn't want to really, just to respect 236 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: for his dad and his family. But and Cindy and 237 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: was so devastated, and we didn't really say much. But 238 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: then we became real activist when we started working again 239 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: and we really felt like it was really important to 240 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: speak out. The AIDS crisis was so devastating, so many 241 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: friends lost, and so little attention paid to it by 242 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: the government. It was really a real tragedy. And so 243 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: you know, after that, we became really involved with PETA, 244 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, and we did 245 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: a lot of really fun stuff with PETA. And it 246 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: was always really fun working with with them because they 247 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: always had some crazy event like raiding the Vogue offices 248 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: or you know, they launched the rather go Naked than 249 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: Wear fur. We didn't do that, but the Go Gos 250 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: and all these great people were involved with them, and 251 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: so we just carried on. I'm now involved with we're 252 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: all involved with Save the Chimps. There's an amazing ship 253 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: sanctuary and you know, any cause we can do. Really, 254 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: we're not aligned with one particular cause, but you know, 255 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: we just try to be there for whatever we can do. 256 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: And that's I mean, that's something we all love about 257 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: the B fifty two is is like, you know, you 258 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: make this music that is so fun, makes you want 259 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: to dance, but it also you have a message that 260 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: you get across it. So it has everything. 261 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: And in my solo record, I definitely have some more 262 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: over political stuff and both my solo records, so trying 263 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: to get it out there. 264 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: Radios and Rainbows, which is out now, and we'll be 265 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: talking about that in a bit. I really quickly want 266 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: to touch on cosmic thing. What an album in eighteen 267 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: eighty eight and you recorded that after losing Ricky. So 268 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: you said that that that making that album was that 269 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: it was a healing process for you. How did making 270 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: that album kind of help you process that grief? 271 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think after a year of just grieving and 272 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: not knowing what to do, and it really seemed like 273 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: that would be the end of the band, it could be, 274 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: it could have been. Yeah, Well, I lived Keith Strickland 275 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: moved to Woodstock and I came with him to look 276 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: for houses. I went up buying a little cabin so 277 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: I lived across the pond from him, and I canoed 278 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: over there one day and he said, I've written some 279 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: music and I think, you know, I just feel like 280 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: maybe this is good. Be fifty two's music. I listened 281 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: to and it was like wow. And then he played 282 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: it for the rest of the band and we were 283 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: all got excited about getting back together. And it was 284 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: very tentative at first, and we did a lot of talking, 285 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: and we did it in New York City at a 286 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: studio and it was just very healing. I just feel 287 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: like a lot of the songs conjured Ricky's presence, and 288 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: it was a lot about times, the innocent times in 289 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: Athens before we started the band, when we used to 290 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: go skinny dip in at you know, just take mushrooms 291 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: and crash parties and stuff. And denbat Club is kind 292 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: of full of really true stories and that just sort 293 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: of came out in this jam and just so easy. 294 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: All the lyrics kind of formed. So Yeah, a lot 295 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: of it was just really feeling like, Wow, Ricky's almost 296 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: here with us, guiding us in some way. Yeah, intig 297 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: it's healing. 298 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful to hear stuff like that. Really, it 299 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: really is I mean, I got to ask you about love. 300 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: Love Shack is like one of the greatest songs of 301 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: all time. How so the love Shack's a real place, right, No, well. 302 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: Not technically, it's more of an ideal place. There was 303 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: a place called the Hawaiian Holly in Athens, and the 304 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: person that opened it was he attempted to make it 305 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: an integrated club, and it was for a while, and 306 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: it was a dance club. I think it was probably 307 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: really cool, but that I don't think that lasted too long. 308 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: But it's more of a like a I lived in. 309 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: The house I lived in Athens was really to me 310 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: like a love shack too. It was that kind of place. 311 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: It was a tin roof which was rusted, a goat shed, 312 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: you know, kind of out in the country, in the 313 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: middle of a field. So it was like a juke 314 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: joint sort of like in the color purple, kind of 315 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: one of those places that's out in the country. And 316 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: that was kind of the Hawaiian I guess was the inspiration. 317 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: And that is a real place, but it's it's a 318 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: little more idealized than that. 319 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: I love it. Kate Pearson from the B fifty twos 320 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: is with us. We have so much more to get into. 321 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a very quick break here and we'll 322 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: be right back. Stay with us. Kate Pearson from the 323 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: B fifty twos with us on I smell pop culture. 324 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: This is so much fun. I'm just I'm trying not 325 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: to feign girls too hard here. Something I just I 326 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about. One of my favorite B 327 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: fifty two moments in history. Is you when you were 328 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: in the Flintstones movie as the BC fifty two's Yeah, 329 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: I thought that was so fun. I love the bedrock 330 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: twists that you guys play in the movie. How did 331 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: that happen? How did you get involved with the Flintstones? 332 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: I think it was through well, we were working with 333 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: Nile Rogers and Don was I'm not really even sure 334 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: how that happened, but they asked us to be, you know, 335 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: to do the theme and the bedrock twist and beat 336 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: in the movie, and it was a blast. It was 337 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: just crazy. It was. I guess I'm not remembering the 338 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: year we did it because Cindy wasn't Cindy had left 339 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 2: the band at that point after Cosmic Thing, so we 340 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: were it was just Fred and Keith and me and 341 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: it was so crazy. It was in this like a quarry. 342 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: It was like a quarry in La and it was 343 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: Rack Quarry and they had transformed it totally into Glenstonesville. 344 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's just amazing the detail. You don't even 345 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 2: see it all in the movie, the signage and everything. 346 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: And Fred and I got to go and with this 347 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 2: little car so we moved with your feet. It was 348 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: just it was really and the outfits and everything was 349 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: just totally really fun. 350 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: It all looks so good in the in the fur 351 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: and everything in the you know, the pelts, the fake 352 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: pelts of course fake fur. Yes, yes, yes, it looks 353 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: so good. And also I just want to shout out 354 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: you guys did the Rocos Modern Life theme song. That 355 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: is so wild to me. 356 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: That was with our friend pet Or when he used 357 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: to play with the band for a long time, sort 358 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: of keyboard player and guitar for the band. 359 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: Awesome. I just learned that recently. That was, I mean 360 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: like a couple of months ago. I was like, oh 361 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: my god, it's the be fifty twos. Like that. 362 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: He launched out after the band after he was with 363 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: the B fifty twos. He has his own band and 364 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: he also does a lot of work in television. 365 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: I mean so much talent. I saw you guys on 366 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: the tour with the Casey and the Sunshine Band, and 367 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: that was so much fun. I had the best time. 368 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: You had a lobster come out on stage. It's just 369 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: such a blast that now you're doing a residency at 370 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: the Venetian and there's there are more shows in twenty 371 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: twenty five, April eleventh to the nineteen at the Venetian 372 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. How has the Vegas residency been? Are 373 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: you having fun doing that? 374 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: That's been really fun. I'm not wild to go to Vegas, 375 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: and we played Vegas so many times. I think we've 376 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: played at every hotel. I don't know. We've stayed at 377 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: so many different hotels and played at so many different 378 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: events in Vegas. None of us are gamblers, really, Yeah, 379 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: spread plays the penny slots. But yeah, it's been great. 380 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: The Venetian Theater is beautiful, it's a perfect size. The 381 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: hotel's great, it's got great restaurants, and you just get 382 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: a little rhythm going. We're not there for too long. 383 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: It's just really a weak residency. We're there maybe twelve days, 384 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: and you know, you try to get out out of 385 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: the Strip area and go see a canyon or two. 386 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: And we've made a couple of canyons, and yeah, it's 387 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 2: been a really nice experience. And to stay in one 388 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: place and do shows, it's just you can't beat it. 389 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: It's something we've wanted to do for a long time 390 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 2: and finally, you know, we have. We've done I think 391 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: four or five and we're gonna do another one in April. 392 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: So it's been really fun. And the fans, you know, 393 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: there's friends that come and fans can come to us, 394 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: and it's wonderful. 395 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: It's so great. If you have a chance, let everyone listening, 396 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: you got to go see the BA fifty two is 397 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: there's just like a muss. That show is so much 398 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: fun and that you are out on its solo tour yourself, 399 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: and as people hear this, you're in the middle of 400 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: your tour. You have a couple of dates left in 401 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: Florida February twenty sixth and Clearwater the twenty seventh, in 402 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: Orlando on the twentieth and fort Launderdale and your new 403 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: album Radios and Rainbows so good. I love taking Me 404 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: Back to the Party. I love that song so much. 405 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, that's that's fun. One. 406 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. Tell us about the about your solo album, this 407 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: new album you released a few months ago. 408 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: Well, I had the different songs from different periods of 409 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: time that I recorded. One every day is Halloween. I 410 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: recorded with Sea and Sam Dixon back when we did 411 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: my first solo record. That was the first we worked on. 412 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: I don't know why I didn't put it on guitars 413 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: and microphones, but it wound up on radios and rainbows 414 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: and I had to kind of pull all these songs 415 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: from different co writers and it was a little bit 416 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: of a process getting everything together. But the bfifty twos, 417 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: then I was ready to get it all together and 418 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: I had it together. But we did our solo I 419 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: mean our final the farewell so called farewell tour I 420 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: like to call it, but we did stop touring. But 421 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: so we did our farewell tour. And then was the 422 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 2: pandemic pandemic happened, and or was it the pandemic first? 423 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: I can't even remember, because the pandemic is when I 424 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: started watching Gilmore Girls. But anyway, it was a lot 425 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: of work that with the Beefy two's, I didn't want 426 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: to release it during the pandemic. So it's a lot 427 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 2: of time passed, but I'm already working on another record. 428 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: I have songs and I'm writing, and so I'm hoping 429 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: to put out another one much sooner than the lapse 430 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: between the other two records. 431 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: So I love it. I absolutely love it. How would 432 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: you describe if you had to sum up the music 433 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: of Radios and Rimas, how would you summarize that project? 434 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's like alt pop. I mean, it's 435 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: definitely got a pop feel, but it's definitely has a 436 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: twist to it, and I have some songs that are political, 437 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: and because I worked with different co writers, there's a 438 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: there is a lot of variation in the kind of 439 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: mood and there's like a dance track and you know, 440 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: sort of an anthem kind of songs and then funky 441 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: songs and a dub sort of song. So there's a 442 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 2: lot of variation, which I love and I've always admired, 443 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: you know, just being able to put any artists who 444 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: can put together like really different tracks. It's not samey 445 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: at all, and so I describe it as eclectic. 446 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: I love it. Was that writing with so many with 447 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: different co writers, was that difficult or to like get 448 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: into a groove with each different person or was it exciting? 449 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: How would you describe that? 450 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: Well, at first that when I did guitars and microphones 451 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: and I worked with Sea, and at first we would 452 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: drive to different most people she had worked with before, 453 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: Chris Braid and just some different people I didn't know, 454 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: and we would drive there and it was like, oh 455 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: my god, this is terrifying. And then she started really 456 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: blowing up her career and I started going by myself 457 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: to these different co writers and it was magical. It 458 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: worked every time. It was so much fun, and it 459 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: just sort of happened like they would always do the instrumentation. 460 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: The few exceptions of a Bloo McCaulay who wrote Evil Love, 461 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: he had suggestions of melody and a couple of things, 462 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: but it was just working with him was great. And 463 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: it's so surprising when you work with someone new. You 464 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: don't know where they're coming from, and it just the 465 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: way the songwriting kind of it's a surprise and that's 466 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: really fun and you really have to put yourself out there. 467 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: It's a little scary, but it always worked. Knock one would, 468 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: so you know, if it didn't work, that's okay. But 469 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: it did always work, and I always clicked with you know, 470 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: I just love working with other musicians and collaborating is 471 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: really my thing, and I love doing the melody and harmonies, 472 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 2: and so it was a really fun process. And now 473 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: I'm writing some songs that are just just me writing 474 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: on guitar and piano. So we'll see what happens. 475 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to hear that. I cannot wait. 476 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: The harmonies of Kate Pearson are just like gifts from Keaven. 477 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: You know, I love it so much. So we're going 478 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: to talk Gilmore Girls here in a second. And that's why, 479 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: that's why one's here. We all love Gilmore Girls. You 480 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: kind of ran your you ran your own Dragonfly into 481 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: a certain extent. I mean, you had a bunch of motels. 482 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: That's something that I loved learning about you. Kate's Lazy Cottage, 483 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: Kate's Lazy Cape. Can you tell us about your experience 484 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: as a motel mogul a mogul hotel? 485 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: Yes, no, well I don't really. It's another unplanned thing. 486 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: I was just driving down the road here in Catskills 487 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: and I saw this airstream for sale, and then I 488 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: saw this for sale sign on this property that was 489 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: on this beautiful Ahsopus Creek, and I walked just drove 490 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: in and walked around, and I saw these goldfinches flying 491 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: around by the river, and I was just captivated by 492 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: the land. And I thought, wouldn't it be fun to, 493 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: you know, decorate all these rooms and have a theme, 494 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: and it wouldn't it be great? And my wife Monica 495 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: wound up in a knee deep and well up to 496 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: her neck and getting helping me get it all started. 497 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: And everything in the rooms I bought either on the 498 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 2: road or locally. It was all filled with like high low, 499 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: mid century modern. And this lazy meadow was built in 500 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty two, so we themed it mid century. And 501 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 2: Monica really ran it. She just ran the whole thing. 502 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: And I would go there and sort of primp up 503 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: the deck de core stuff. But she was really the 504 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: force that made it happen. But after years and years 505 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: of we've had it since what two thousand, I mean 506 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety, I can't remember when we opened it, but 507 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: a long time, and she was really just tired of 508 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: doing that wasn't her dream. She really does pottery and jewelry. 509 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: She makes jewelry beautiful, jewelry and pottery. So we did 510 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: sell that recently, and we sold Lazy Desert, which so 511 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: we had airstreams. We had six air streams by the 512 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: creek and we had a flood and we moved those 513 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: out to calif Foornian had Lazy Desert and we had 514 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: Lazy Cabin and Lazy Shack and Lazy Lodge. But now 515 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: all we have is a place on Cape Cod, which 516 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: we're thrilled to have. 517 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: So well, if you ever find yourself and keep Cod 518 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: dear listeners, check in to Kate's place and have yourself 519 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: a good times. 520 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: Just one house. 521 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: It's okay, okay, uh well, I gotta go check it out. 522 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: So fun while it lasted, it was really fun having 523 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 2: Lazy Meadow and people were so thrilled to stay there, 524 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: and I would go there and meet fans that were 525 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: staying there. We had all kinds of famous people there. 526 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 2: Didavantie stayed there and oh it was amazing. But that 527 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: era is over. 528 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: Incredible, but like it just it was one of those 529 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: things like, oh, of course Cape Hers from the B 530 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: fifty twos is running this kitchy cool motel. Of course 531 00:28:48,960 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: that is happening, you know, So fun, so awesome. All right, 532 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls, you're a fan? Yes, you said you started 533 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: watching it during the pandemic. Was that the first time 534 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: you'd seen the show? 535 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I saw it was all rerun so we could 536 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: majorly binge. Yeah, and I got it mixed up with 537 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: the Gibson I thought it was Gibson Girls, and I 538 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: thought it was about you know, those girls with the hair, 539 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: and it was Victorian or whatever, and I thought, why 540 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 2: would I want to watch that. I thought it was 541 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: just something totally different, and enough people recommended it that 542 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 2: we started watching it. We got so into it. I mean, 543 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: we just wanted to live in stars Hollow during the pandemic. 544 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: It was such a comforting thing. And you know, sometimes 545 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: you watch a show and you feel like they're my friends. Yes, 546 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: Rory and Laura I and I love the banter and 547 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: Amy Sherman Palladino, the the creator, just an amazing reportee. 548 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: They had, you know, just that bad of four fast 549 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: and I'm a big fan of the marvelous missus maisl Yes, 550 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: So during the pandemic, we totally binge watched Gilmore Girls, 551 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: and we loved it, and we were just blown away 552 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: when they were wearing the beeft two's T shirts and 553 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: then they started making references and then they played our music. 554 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: They played Rome and I can't remember what other songs 555 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: they played, but they even had some dialogue like do 556 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: you know the Bee fifty two's and so it was 557 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: Blew Me Away, one of my favorite shows, and then 558 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: they're mentioning us. 559 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: It was just like, yeah, I mean, clearly a'm Sherm 560 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: Paladine is a big fan. But I was going to ask, 561 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: had you before seeing it, like on seeing the shirt 562 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: on screen or hearing it, had you heard that you 563 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: were mentioned in Gilmore Girls. 564 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: No, we were just watching it and all of a sudden, 565 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: and I know they mentioned the Go Gos and you know, 566 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: they had to really hip kind of playlist on that show, 567 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: so I guess it was inevitable. But they really did 568 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: mention the be fifty twos a lot. And when they 569 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: wore the T shirts, I was like, oh my god. 570 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: I saw there was a post on a on the 571 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: Internet of a fan is trying to recreate the exact 572 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: shirt that Laurai's wearing, because I don't know if that 573 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: was like a limited shirt or something, but like it's 574 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's like Yellow and has a. 575 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: I think it was from the first album. I think 576 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 2: the first album cover on it. 577 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but sail on our website. Heybefitchy tes dot 578 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: com check it out. So, so who's your favorite? Do 579 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: you have a favorite? Gilmorgl's character. 580 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: I liked well, I like all of them. I mean, 581 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: I guess you know, you gotta love Lorli. I mean, 582 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: I just loved all of them. Luke was great. I 583 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: loved Emily Gilmore. That was always great when they went 584 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: to the Posh House behave her Self. I love that 585 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: dynamic with her mother and Sookie. Was it, Yes, that 586 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: was Melissa McCarthy. Yeah, that was pretty amazing. Yeah, I think, 587 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: you know, I just loved Rory and Laura l I. 588 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: I mean, they were the mainstay of the show, and 589 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: I love that the sort of sameness of it where 590 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: they always went to hung out at Luke's diner. It 591 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: was just something very comforting and they were always hanging out. 592 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: There was kind of like friends, I guess, where they 593 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: were always hanging together and the quick kind of dialogue 594 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: was really captivating and fun, and it just was a 595 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: very I don't know. We just stuck with it through 596 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: every we couldn't believe there were so many seasons that 597 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: we could bid. We're just like so happy about it. 598 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: What's your reaction when you like hear the V fifty 599 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: two is mentioned? I mean, this must happen all the time, 600 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: Like if you're watching a movie or TV share something 601 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: and you see someone either wearing a shirt or hear 602 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: the ment or hear the song, Like, how does that feel? 603 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: It's kind of like when we first you know, started 604 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: and you first hear your song on the radio, and 605 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: it's like we were in a car and we heard 606 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: rock Lobster being played on the radio and we screamed. 607 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: We're like, oh my god. It's kind of like that. 608 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: You see something in a movie where they have a 609 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: beef just poster, or they play Rome in the beginning 610 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 2: of what was the Denzil Washington movie that they just 611 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: played Rome in the beginning of it. It's oh, yeah, 612 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: is there there's a movie knocked up? Right? 613 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: Yes? 614 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: Yes, they played rock Lobster like during the sex scene 615 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: for just the longest time, and that was really awesome scene, 616 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: you know, with the bffty two is playing with rock 617 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: Lobster playing so so appropriate. 618 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's so cool, something that like blew my 619 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: mind that I read. And speaking of like your influence 620 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: on popular culture, I mean John Lennon, big fan of 621 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: yours and rock Lobster, is specifically influencing his album Double Fantasy. 622 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: That must you influenced a Beatle. That's incredible. 623 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 2: I mean the Beatles were my absolute idols growing up, 624 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 2: and I had a big button that said I Love John. 625 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: It was a lenticular, it had his face, and then 626 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: it was I Love John. And my friends that we 627 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: had a band together called the Sun Donuts, and we 628 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: were all huge Beatle fans, and I first heard them 629 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: on the radio before they even came over here, and 630 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: I told my friends, oh my god, this band is coming. 631 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: I love them. It's going to be great. So to 632 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: hear John Lennon actually just the fact that he just 633 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: knew of us, but the fact that we influenced him 634 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: and Yoko because we were big Yogo fans. Yeah, twos 635 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: were really into Yoko so as an artist, as an 636 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: amazing artist that she is, and also as a musician. 637 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: So we were like, oh my god, this is just 638 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: the most amazing thing. It was thrilling, unbelievable. Really, I 639 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: still can't believe it. 640 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: It's just yeah, that's it's it's like, I don't I 641 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: can't think of like a higher accolade than that, you know, 642 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: like it's incredible. 643 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I said, it's just hard to even realize. 644 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: I really wish I had met John Lennon, and I 645 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 2: had met Yoko of course, and I've I met Paul 646 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 2: McCartney and I met Ringo once too. 647 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: So wow. Yeah. 648 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: But Paul McCartney is bearing fall with Peter. So we 649 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 2: got to sort of open for Paul McCartney one time 650 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: and he we got to talk to him, and he 651 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: was so nice and so easy going. And I looked 652 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: behind me and realized there was this barrier and all 653 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 2: these people were like this and we were just sitting there. 654 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: Chat so surreal. That's wild, that's so cool. Uh. Do 655 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: you have this is this is a hard question, I 656 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: I know, but do you have like is there one 657 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: memory from your experience in the B fifty two's that 658 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: stands out to you, like like like something that like 659 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: when you look back on the time of the band, 660 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: something that always comes to the forefront of your mind. 661 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: Oh, all, it's all rushing back at me. I think 662 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: some of the well, I guess the very early, you know, 663 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 2: first show of course that we did at Maxis Kansas City, 664 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: that was just unforgettable because there were only a few 665 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: people in the audience. We got people dancing and that 666 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: wasn't really the thing. It was black clad, you know, 667 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: people in the leather jackets leaning against the walls and 668 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: being kind of like very critical, and people started dancing 669 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 2: because we brought a crew up from Athens. Of course, 670 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: that started the party going. And that's super memorable. You know, 671 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: it's just a punk scene. And we brought our friends 672 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 2: up and one of our friends like had a fight 673 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 2: with Lydia lunch because they said she stole their purse. 674 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just it was a just fun 675 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 2: scene and meeting all these other bands, meeting Patty Smith 676 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 2: and Blondie and Talking Heads, and it was just an 677 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 2: amazing scene. And I just that's so memorable when you 678 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 2: first start out and you're just you know, new to something. 679 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: And then I think all the festivals that we did, 680 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 2: the US Festival and Rock and Rio, those were really memorable. 681 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: Rock and real huge, I mean, and yeah, and you 682 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: guys up on the big stage. It's just incredible. Thank 683 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: you so much. You've been so generous with your time, 684 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: Kate Pearson, I am so grateful for you to come 685 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: on with us and talk Gilmore Girls and talk about 686 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: your your incredible career. I'm just I'm such a big fan. 687 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: I also I brought my Bee fifty two's hat. I 688 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: didn't want to be like super weird, but I do 689 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: have a roll UPSTRA had to. I just personally as 690 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: a fan. I just want to thank you so much 691 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: for sharing music with the world and putting all that 692 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: great energy out there and these great messages, and we 693 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: just are so grateful worldwide for you and what you've made. 694 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It was great talking to you, 695 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 2: really fun. I love talking gil More Girls. 696 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: Well, Bill, come back anytime again. Kate Peterson from the 697 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: B fifty two is Her new album, Radios and Rainbows 698 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: is out now and you can see her on tour 699 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: in Florida in February. Thanks again so much. Follow us, Yes, 700 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: I'll see it starts Hello, Hey everybody, and don't forget 701 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at I Am All In podcast 702 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeart radio dot com.