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Speaker 1: here's the thing, you know, I'm sure a lot of

427
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: you have seen the nut tap everything that's going viral,

428
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: like he's done that multiple times now. There was a

429
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: whiningness to him last year. There's just a body language

430
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: thing to me that I see. It's like part of

431
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: being a limited player is being a super high character guy,

432
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: right like Dak Prescott limitations, Derek Carr limitations, Kirk Cousins limitations,

433
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: never any issues there, like there's never like, you know,

434
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: this guy can be a little And there's a difference

435
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 1: of having a tough conversation with a coach right discussing

436
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: some stuff. It's football. Things can get tense. It's another

437
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: thing last year I thought was a complete embarrassment and

438
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: I understand he was playing for Matt Patricia's offensive coordinator,

439
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: which is also a complete embarrassment. But as a second

440
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: year player, you don't handle yourself like that. And then

441
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: this year you just watch the play the turnovers. I mean,

442
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 1: he has two devastating picks this season. One led to

443
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: six points, the other really screwed them week two against

444
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. I just watch a guy that doesn't

445
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: make that many plays. Now, you can tell me all

446
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: day long about their lack of offensive skill. And I was

447
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: talking to a guy in the NFL. I said, do

448
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: you think if you put Tom Brady in his peak

449
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: on this Patriot team they could compete to win the AFC?

450
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: And he said no, but they would be good. I

451
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: mean they would win eleven twelve games. Now it's clear

452
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is not Tom Brady and this team is

453
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: not super stacked. But the point of this is, I thought,

454
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones, and this is what Kyle Shanahan thought,

455
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: you were just getting a very, very efficient player, and

456
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. And then you get some

457
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 1: of the baggage. You know, a lot of people make

458
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: fun of him for being a spoiler, little rich kid

459
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: like I just think being spoiled rich kid or being

460
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: a poor kid. There's just a way to act in

461
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: the NFL. Some guys act right, some guys don't, And

462
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: clearly Mac Jones kind of questionable when you factor that in.

463
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: I saw today he was asked about the nut punch

464
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 1: kind of refuse to answer, which I don't blame him.

465
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure Belichick's, you know, giving him the riot act.

466
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: Just say we're on to you know, we're on to Dallas,

467
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: We're on to Micah Parsons, We're on to Dan Quinn.

468
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: And that's essentially what he said. But I feel pretty

469
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: good about that, right, I was dead wrong on justin fields.

470
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: The Zach Wilson and Trey Lance thing was always an

471
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: enormous swing for defenses. And the Mac Jones just like,

472
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: he's a third fourth round pick. That's that's who he

473
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: is in any draft, even in quote unquote quarterback inflation, right,

474
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: and that's real because everyone's desperate to get a quarterback.

475
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: But when you're desperate to get a quarterback, I like

476
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: Bryce Young. I it was hard not to. You watched

477
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: him in college. Dude was fucking brilliant, just a natural

478
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: thrower of the football. But it didn't take long. If

479
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: you just paid attention in the preseason, you're like, and

480
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: I was someone that's like, maybe he can figure it out.

481
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: He's always been small, because I remember talking to a buddy.

482
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, Devontae Smith, he weighs one

483
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy eight pounds, he's tiny. How's this gonna translate?

484
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: And he's like, bro, he's always been small, and he's

485
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: kicked everyone's ass. And you know what when you watch

486
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: him with the Eagles still kicking butt unfazed. The thing

487
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: with Bryce as a quarterback, you're a little dependent on

488
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: the skill guys around you, on your on your offensive line,

489
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: and he's going like, look, he looks he's overwhelmed. So

490
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I'm dead wrong on that one,

491
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: but I would say I got that one red flaged.

492
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't look right to me at all. And you

493
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: gotta be very careful. And this is gonna be a

494
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: conversation with all these quarterbacks this year in the draft.

495
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: Right size, intelligence, seeing the field. A lot of these

496
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: guys playing really good teams. Pennix bo Knicks are two

497
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: good examples. Right Caleb would have been unreal no matter

498
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: where he went, Drake May went to a non football power,

499
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: and it's kicking ass to me. Bo Knicks and Pennix

500
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: we saw them early on. Now Penis got injured, Bo

501
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: had a lot of failures in Auburn, and now they

502
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: just look like world beaters. And I think the question

503
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be the talent around them, who's coaching them,

504
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: Like they're just gonna get nitpicked, because like, are we

505
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: gonna take these guys top ten picks? Sometimes I hear

506
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: people talk about Michael Penix going in the second or

507
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: third round. I think that's crazy. As long as his

508
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 1: physical and his knees checkout. Just watch him play. I mean,

509
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: that guy looks like a dynamic NFL thrower. So you

510
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: just you gotta do your home say it all the time.

511
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: You're still dealing with humans. So even when the stats

512
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: check out, even when the eye test checks out, even

513
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: when you meet the guy checks out, there's a human

514
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: element to being overwhelmed or short circusing, short circuiting, or

515
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: just not being able to get it done in a

516
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: competitive industry, Just because you want to do it and

517
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: just because you have some of the talent doesn't guarantee success. Right,

518
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: success is never guaranteed. Who would have ever thought Tom

519
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: Brady would be successful? What really made him just his

520
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: He just refused to fail. I mean, he just kept

521
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: swinging his pick NonStop. His work ethic is unmatched. And

522
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: that's stuff that you think, you know, you can get

523
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: check points when you go into the schools that give

524
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: you thumbs up, but until you get them in the building,

525
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: you're just somewhat holding on to your ass. Even when

526
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: you have, you feel really good about everything that all

527
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: the information you've accumulated. It's what makes acquiring quarterbacks so

528
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: so difficult. Who would have ever thought brock Purty would

529
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: even be functional if people just knew debate how good

530
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: the guy actually is, Like is he ever gonna be

531
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback? Is he overrated? He's literally a

532
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: starting fucking quarterback for one of the best teams in

533
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. There is not many people I would imagine

534
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: in the scouting circles that would have written down like, hey,

535
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: if you put him on like the forty nine ers, Dolphins,

536
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: or give him the Eagles, like they'd still kick ass.

537
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: When you give a guy like a fringe draftable grade,

538
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, he's probably more of a practice squad player,

539
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: meaning he's not ready to play, and then now look

540
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: at him. Kyle Shannan's like favorite player since Kirk Cousins.

541
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: So it's weird how this stuff works. The other thing

542
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL, right when you get around this time,

543
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: I just I usually go to rotal World because it

544
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: just does a really good job. I used to do

545
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: this in the NFL when we used to have to

546
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: manually input injuries. Basically, what you would do is you'd

547
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: go to rotal World and you just start scrolling and

548
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: you just make sure that every guy in the system

549
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: had updated injury information because at any moment they could

550
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: be cut, and then when they were cut at the time,

551
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: stuff didn't automatically import like from some you know, I

552
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: don't even know where it would come from. I'm pretty

553
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: sure it does now, but back in the day you

554
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: had to keep track of it manually. Every team did.

555
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: So when John Middlecoff was cut from the Patriots, you go, well,

556
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: he's had two knee surgeries and a rolled ankle, so

557
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to bring them in you

558
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 1: can check that stuff out. So I just go scroll

559
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: because it's basically a fantasy website. But it also just

560
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: it breaks everything down Twitter style individually by players, and

561
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: you just start seeing a lot. I mean it's adding

562
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: up fast. A lot of guys missing practice and the

563
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: bumps and bruises really start coming. And that's the thing

564
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: with the NFL. It's people say it every year and

565
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: you think about it every year. And I was texting

566
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: with a buddy who's a part of a really good team.

567
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, we got a really good shot unless

568
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: some major injury happens, which you never know if it's coming.

569
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: And how many of your role players are just gonna

570
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: stay healthy if they do get injured, who's gonna be

571
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: ready to step up? Like it's one thing to be like, well,

572
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: this guy's always Diyie, Alexander's always hurt. Okay, Well, it's

573
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: like if they're gonna make the playoff, they're probab gonna

574
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: need Christian Watson some of these guys on the squad.

575
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: And you look at the I'm watching the Saints game

576
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: live when Derek goes down and you just think, if

577
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: you're the Saints, you feel you were a quarterback away

578
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: from being a playoff team. Derek is flawed and I

579
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: don't even think he had kind of hit his stride yet,

580
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 1: but all of a sudden you look up and he's

581
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: laying there. You're like, did he just break his clavical

582
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: And then the way he walked off, they weren't kind

583
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: of holding it. You're like, maybe he didn't break it,

584
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: but you didn't know. And then now he's you know,

585
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: probably gonna miss some games. And you just at any

586
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: moment in any of these games, it's sick and it's

587
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: you're not proud of this, But when people are laying

588
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: on the ground, and there are multiple people laying on

589
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: the ground, we all do it. You just say, I

590
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: hope it's not so and so right. Or when the

591
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: camera you know, kind of goes toward a huddle and

592
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: then goes, oh, there's a defender down and it's your team,

593
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: you just pray it's not Pro bowler x right. You're like,

594
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: please don't be And then you see it's like a

595
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: random slot corner. You're like, oh, thank god. And that's

596
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: no different than coaches and gms. And it's the sad

597
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: part about this business. And it's also why these big

598
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: practice squads are so important. Depth on your team is

599
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: so important. Drafting and undrafted free agents are so important

600
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: developing those guys. It's why these position coaches get paid

601
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: so much money because if you can keep developing these

602
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: guys through the season, and a lot of it if

603
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: you're not a starting player is on scout team and

604
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: mentally so it takes a lot of discipline. It's kind

605
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: of like a diet, right, A lot is on you

606
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: as a starting player. Whoever your coordinator is, your head coach,

607
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: they're in your ass. The strength and conditioning coach there is.

608
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: And listen, most players, especially at the highest level, are

609
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: self starters, are self motivated. They don't need you to

610
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: give them a kick in the butt every day. I

611
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: remember when Chip Kelly got hired with the forty nine ers.

612
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: They had been to these NFC championship games and it

613
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: was like, wait, you're gonna make like Joe Staley and

614
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Willis and some of these guys mandatory smoothies in

615
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: the morning. I just don't think it's gonna work. And

616
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: it didn't need less than one year. But listen, average players,

617
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: especially young players, they're just they're all over you. As

618
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: like a fringe practice squad guy. It's easy to fly

619
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: under the radars, like, hey, they like me. They drafted me.

620
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 1: But it's kind of on you to get extra film reps,

621
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: to keep track of the things the starters are doing.

622
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: Work out really hard, make sure you know could clearly.

623
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: Usually you service your own team in scout team, but

624
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: you also have to know your own playbook. It's intense

625
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: and the level of self discipline that it holds young

626
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: people to it exposes fast. And I saw Dion go

627
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: on a rant the other day about one of his

628
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: highly recruited guys, I think, a true freshman. They asked

629
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: him like, when's he gonna be on the field, and

630
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: Dean's like, the guy doesn't even know what he's doing.

631
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: He's like, we check film every single week. We know

632
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: how much film you watch every position. Coach keeps track

633
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: and then gives to me by Thursday, and then we

634
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: also can see on practice. Just because he's a five

635
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: star guy, if he's not ready to play. Putting out

636
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: a guy that's not ready is stupid, right. It's why

637
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: often you'll see a guy on the team you root for,

638
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Speaker 1: be like a third round pick, and you get an injury.

639
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Speaker 1: You're like, why aren't they playing? So and so we

640
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Speaker 1: drafted the guy in the late second round because they

641
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Speaker 1: don't think the guy's ready. Now they can't cut him

642
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Speaker 1: because someone else would claim them. But they make them

643
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Speaker 1: inactive every week, especially if you have an injury or

644
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Speaker 1: something at the position, because they don't think he's mentally ready.

645
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Speaker 1: If you're a running back, maybe you can't pass protect.

646
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: If you're a defensive lineman, maybe you can't play the run.

647
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: If you're a dB, maybe you don't know all the coverages.

648
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: And when coaches don't trust you, right, they don't put

649
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Speaker 1: you out there. It's a little bit like being a parent.

650
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: You usually don't get to ride your bike to school

651
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: until you kind of prove you know, maybe fourth fifth grade, right,

652
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean early on, you're getting dropped off by somebody

653
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Speaker 1: a fellow parent. I remember the first time I got

654
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Speaker 1: to ride my bike to the school. My mom actually

655
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Speaker 1: told me recently she followed me to school, like the

656
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Speaker 1: first week of me riding the bike. I'm like, that's

657
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Speaker 1: a little incognito move. I didn't really like what I saw,

658
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: but you made it, and we just kind of let

659
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Speaker 1: you keep rolling. Right, You have to prove your trust

660
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 1: anytime you get a car when you're young, right, anytime

661
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: they let you drive, anytime they let you stay out late.

662
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: It's no different in a football team with a young player,

663
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Speaker 1: you have to prove your worth to them off the

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Speaker 1: field practice meetings, and then who knows, And maybe you

665
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Speaker 1: get on the field and you're really good, and everyone's like,

666
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Speaker 1: why didn't they put them out? Why didn't they do

667
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: it right away? And sometimes it's true. You just gotta

668
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Speaker 1: Some guys are bright lights guys, but for the most part,

669
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Speaker 1: you can't put people out there that don't know what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. That's what I feel like when I watch

671
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: the Chargers play football, it feels like all their defensive

672
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Speaker 1: players does anyone practice do you guys meet? It's everyone

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Speaker 1: on the same page. If I ask all four of

674
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Speaker 1: their dbs Derwin, I know would know what's going on.

675
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: But I ask the other guys, hey, do you know

676
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Speaker 1: the coverage where you're supposed to be with like these

677
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: five different route combinations, feels like I get three different

678
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Speaker 1: answers from all three guys. It's very difficult to play

679
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Speaker 1: little mailbag fire in those da get your question answered

698
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Speaker 1: here on this little podcast, Charles, what is going on

699
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: with Baltimore and all the injuries? Every single year? We're

700
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: losing guys often and early. Do you account this to

701
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: just bad luck or what? Well? Remember the Eagles had

702
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: a stretch, the forty nine Ers had a stretch. We're

703
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: just losing guys left and right. Sometimes I do believe

704
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: it's football. There's luck involved, right. I remember the forty

705
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: nine Ers like fired their medical staff. I'm like, I

706
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: have a hard time the Eagles fire their strength and

707
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: conditioning staff. It's always easy to point fingers like I'm sorry.

708
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just get hurt. And sometimes once you get

709
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: injured Ronnie Stanley, you just kind of stay injured. But

710
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: you know you lose JK. Dobbins. Obviously Humphrey's out. I

711
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. I mean, the good

712
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: thing is, as long as it's not Lamar, you got

713
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: a chance. I mean, that's why you pay John Harbaugh.

714
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: I guess he makes fifteen million dollars, and obviously Lamar

715
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: makes a premium. As long as you got those two guys,

716
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: you just got to mix a match. Now, clearly you're

717
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: gonna need some of these guys healthy to make Hay

718
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs and win the division. But I typically

719
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: kind of chalk it up to bad luck. Any chance

720
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: the NFL conflecs the Bears and Broncos game into the

721
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: London game, that matchup deserves to be sent to another country.

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Speaker 1: Totally agree. How think how crazy it is to lose

723
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Speaker 1: by seventy or excuse me, lose by fifty but give

724
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Speaker 1: up seventy and be favored in the next game. And honestly,

725
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: it's not even a question they should be favored, like

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00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos should be favored over the Bears even though

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00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: they just lost seventy to twenty. I'll promise you this,

728
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: No team ever again will lose seventy to twenty and

729
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: then be favored the next week. It's impossible in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I guess it could happen in college because you could

731
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: be like playing in Alabama or Georgia and then the

732
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: next week you play a lower opponent. But it will

733
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: never happen again in the NFL. This is a complete

734
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: one off mailback. Why does Sean Payton get treated like

735
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: an all time great coach but McCarthy gets treated like

736
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: a village idiot and they both had similar coaching careers,

737
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: both have won Super Bowl a long time ago with

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Speaker 1: an all time quarterback and have not been saying the

739
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: same since only three games in and Peyton's team looks

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Speaker 1: unprepared and not motivated. Are we sure Sean Payton isn't

741
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: closer to a McCarthy than he is to an Andy Reid.

742
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Speaker 1: I think Peyton has everyone fooled because he took a

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Speaker 1: year off and was a media darling. I honestly think

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Speaker 1: he's not as good as mcveigh's, Andy's or even Harbaugh. Well,

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Speaker 1: I would agree if you had a coaching draft today,

746
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Speaker 1: you would not take McVeigh Andy. You know John Harbor.

747
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Speaker 1: The problem with John Harbaugh and like Mike Tomlin is

748
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: they're very dependent on their coordinators. Now they're clearly good coaches,

749
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Speaker 1: but like I know, as a GM, I would like

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Speaker 1: my coach to call a side of the ball and

751
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Speaker 1: typically offense. So Sean Payton is a really good offensive coach.

752
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: Like that much has always been drue. Now I think

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Speaker 1: I would take Sean Payton over Mike McCarthy. I definitely

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00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: would have before the season started. But I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: You watch that team. He's not just the offensive coordinator,

756
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: he's the head coach. He's responsible for the defensive coordinator.

757
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: He's responsible for the defensive effort. In terms of motivation,

758
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: that was pretty ugly. And let's face it, McCarthy's tenure

759
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: in Dallas has gone pretty well. It really has beside

760
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Speaker 1: the first year when Dak shatters his ankle. Like they've

761
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: been really good playoffs back to back years. They'll be

762
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Speaker 1: back in the playoffs again this year. Love the pod.

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Speaker 1: High level shit, Jeremy, sound like a high level dude.

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Speaker 1: My question is this Lawrence gonna fill his potential? That'd

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Speaker 1: be Trevor Lawrence. He has the talent, but he seems

766
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Speaker 1: to be missing the drive for fire quarterbacks half Lawrence

767
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: did not have a quote before the draft mentioning or

768
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Speaker 1: he did have a quote mentioning that he had hobbies

769
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Speaker 1: and football isn't life. I wonder if that is starting

770
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: to show up in this point of his career. C J.

771
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Speaker 1: Stroud looked better to be honest based on YouTube highlights. Lol,

772
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: it was funny. I don't blame anybody. Nobody was watching

773
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: that game. You just look at the slate. I'm sorry.

774
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: One of the last games you're gonna watch is Jaggs Texans.

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00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 1: With the state of NFL and his talent, I would

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Speaker 1: expect Lawrence to be a thirty five plus touchdown guy

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Speaker 1: every year. He is currently on track for seventeen. I

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00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: do believe he'll get it together. I know some people there,

779
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: people think highly of them. I haven't talked to him

780
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Speaker 1: since the season started, but clearly they've got off to

781
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: a very very shaky offensively start offensive start. Offensively, they

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00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: should have been better, I assumed, and this is always

783
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: difficult with football. They would be a top five offense

784
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, but they've been horrendous the first couple weeks.

785
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Speaker 1: It's one thing to lose to the Chiefs kind of

786
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: get chopped a it's another thing to get worked by

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Speaker 1: the Texans. I'm not pivoting yet, but I would say

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Speaker 1: it's this is a pretty big season because a lot

789
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Speaker 1: of guys of his stature and his hype usually get

790
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Speaker 1: paid after the third year. I would say he's not

791
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Speaker 1: trending to get his two hundred million dollars if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't start figuring out to throw a bunch of touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the current state of my vikings?

794
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: I personally think O'Connell is overrated as hell and should

795
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: be fired if we keep playing like this. More optimistic

796
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: fans will say, hey, they won thirteen games last year,

797
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: but if you watch the games, the play calling stinks

798
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: way too many three and outs limiting Justine targets and

799
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: crunch time extremely frustrating considering the offensive weapons on the team.

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00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: Defense is also horrendous. Don't know where to go. Hopefully

801
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: you can provide some insight. Also, do you wake up

802
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: with fire in your gut? You know, it depends on

803
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Speaker 1: the day and depends what I ate the previous night.

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00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: So I would say, when I eat healthy, no fire

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00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: in my gut. When I go Taco bell, you get

806
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: a little fire in your gut. I've sporadically watched the

807
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: Vikings and there are moments when I watch them that

808
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: I've probably even tweeted this. I'm like, God, Kevin O'Connell

809
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good play caller, A believer in the guy,

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00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: just because I followed his career since he was a

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Speaker 1: quarterback at San Diego State. He won thirteen games last year,

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00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: so he's gonna get a couple of year period. I

813
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: do not understand. And this is also on the GM

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00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: why they're just over Cousins, right. I understand one to

815
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Speaker 1: draft another quarterback, all for it, but what are you

816
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: gonna do? They're just gonna let Cousins walk. Who's gonna

817
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: be their quarterback next year? At oh and three, they're

818
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: clearly on pace to get a really good one. But

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Speaker 1: what if they end up winning six games? In drafting eleventh,

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Speaker 1: they're just gonna let Cousins walk and then draft a

821
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Speaker 1: quarterback at eleven? Would they trade a bunch of picks

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Speaker 1: and move up to get a guy that That plan,

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00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: to me feels a little shaky. That's one plan I

824
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: got red flagged a little bit. I don't know if

825
00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: they're handling this Cousin's situation smoothly. Now. We'll see how

826
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: it all plays out, because I watched the guy listen.

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Speaker 1: He's limited. He's been the same guy now for years.

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Speaker 1: Just like Dak. They're the same guy. Whether you pay

829
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: him ten million dollars or forty two million dollars, they're good,

830
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: They're solid, but they are who they are, And I

831
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Speaker 1: just don't know how you really upgrade. Now. I'm all

832
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Speaker 1: for Hell. I'd franchise tag him and still draft a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: On the Go Lo Pod, you also talk about your

834
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Speaker 1: golfing bets. Give me some NFL bets. Seems like you

835
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: never talk about where your money is. Well, I have

836
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: an enormous remodel going on, so I've been very hesitant

837
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Speaker 1: to gamble, and I've picked my spots. I gamble a

838
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: lot more on golf because also I don't have to

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Speaker 1: put as much down. But now with the Draftking sponsorship,

840
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Speaker 1: we have Stucky on every week, I'm gonna start. I

841
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: did it last week. My favorite bet and I bet

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Speaker 1: on him was Carolina minus six. I will pick every

843
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Speaker 1: single week my favorite bet and the bet bet on.

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Speaker 1: I don't spread my money out as much right now,

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00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: I just go all in on one. I did it

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Speaker 1: last week Carolina minus six, and I'll bring that up

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Speaker 1: with Stucky about my favorite pick of the week. Moving forward,

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Speaker 1: huge fan, been listening for years? Have you ever considered

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Speaker 1: doing a weekly best of? For three and out? The

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Speaker 1: Herd does a daily best of, Colin does a weekly

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Speaker 1: Prime Cuts, First Thing First does a weekly recap. Just

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Speaker 1: a thought, this guy's like future producer here. We're producing

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Speaker 1: so many podcasts right now. I guess they do too,

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Speaker 1: But that's not something to keep. Bad idea to keep

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Speaker 1: in the back pocket. What do you think about the

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Speaker 1: Jets and Bears swapping Wilson for Fields? Both seem equally

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Speaker 1: terrible but are different type players. Fields could be a

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Speaker 1: better fit with the Jets defense and gets. He would

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Speaker 1: get the chance to see if he could catch lightning

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Speaker 1: in a bottle with Wilson. It seems very low risk,

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Speaker 1: high reward to me. The problem for the Jets is

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Speaker 1: they're currently in the middle of a major problem. If

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Speaker 1: they did the swap to a Monday morning, the pressure

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Speaker 1: on Fields to get caught up on their offense, it

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Speaker 1: would be a disaster. I mean, he's struggling with an

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Speaker 1: offense now that he's been in for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: To try to rework that on the fly, Even if

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Speaker 1: you did figure it out several weeks in, you would

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Speaker 1: lose so many games. I hear what you're saying. They

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Speaker 1: might be a couple of weeks away from why not,

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Speaker 1: But I would say right now the Jets would not

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Speaker 1: do that. Now you could argue, well, what are they

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Speaker 1: just gonna do? Keep rolling out Zach Wilson and keep losing.

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Speaker 1: Feels kind of like they will, which is kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: Quick question for the bag. As a Bronco fan, I

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Speaker 1: gotta ask, how good is Caleb Williams gonna look in

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Speaker 1: a Broncos jersey next year? You got a lot of competition,

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Speaker 1: you really do. You got a lot of competition for

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Speaker 1: that pick. I think the Bears are in the driver's seat,

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Speaker 1: are worse than you, and I think you'll see it

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Speaker 1: this week. Remember years ago in the Joe Burrow Draft,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins and Bengals played late in the season and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals lost. Now, this is an early season game.

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Speaker 1: There's still a ton of games left. This is a

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Speaker 1: pretty big Caleb Williams swing game. If the Bears lose

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Speaker 1: this game and Carolina keeps losing, the Bears might end

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Speaker 1: up with like Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison junior, or

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and some awesome offensive tackle. So I think

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Speaker 1: the Bears currently are in the driver's seat to get him.

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Speaker 1: I just you guys are gonna end up winning some games.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys fan, here the news about Diggs today. This is

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Speaker 1: kind of old. Tore me up. I wanted to see

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Speaker 1: him be a part of this run. I think we

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Speaker 1: can put together this year. Fortunately, we have a pretty

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Speaker 1: solid depth with Bland and Jordan Lewis. I think it

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Speaker 1: shakes something up a little, but I don't think it

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Speaker 1: breaks us. Does this change your opinion of the Cowboys, Well,

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Speaker 1: they clearly didn't lose to the Cardinals because Diggs was out.

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Speaker 1: I do think anytime that you have a massive loss

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Speaker 1: like that, it can rattle you a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: I forget was it Ceede Lamb or Micah Parsons one

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Speaker 1: of them on their eye black or you know the

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Speaker 1: eye patches had seven written. I think it might have

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Speaker 1: been Ceedee Lamb. It's tough man. That moment in practice,

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Speaker 1: when the guy goes down, especially if he had to

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Speaker 1: be carried slash carted off, I would imagine practice potentially ends.

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Speaker 1: Everyone loses focus. It's hard for me to put that

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Speaker 1: loss on the injury, right. If he would have played

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Speaker 1: in that game, they still easily could have lose lost.

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Speaker 1: But I do think there is an impact psychologically. They

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Speaker 1: can just throw you off. Now. I would expect them

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Speaker 1: to look a lot better against the Patriots. But of

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Speaker 1: all the players that you were gonna lose, who are

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Speaker 1: impact on your team? You would say clearly Dak and

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Speaker 1: in Micah Parsons are you know, in some order one

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Speaker 1: and two digs. For as awesome as he is, and

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Speaker 1: he's been very, very impactful, he would probably not be

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Speaker 1: in your top five, right, Ceedee Lamb Pollard would be

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Speaker 1: up there. I mean maybe he would be fifth, but

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Speaker 1: he's not the number one guy. This is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a big week for Dallas. Kind of show a little

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Speaker 1: grit show, a little toughness show, a little mental fortitude show,

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Speaker 1: a little like we just got hit in the mouth.

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Speaker 1: How do we respond against the Patriots? Who are, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of a tough, gritty team. Do you think Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll is not talked about enough as being one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest head coaches of all time. You constantly hear

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Speaker 1: about Belichick and Andy Reid, but they had all time

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks propel their names to all time great coaching status.

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Speaker 1: Belichick had Brady and Reid has Mahomes. Without those guys,

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Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't be talking about them. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about Andy Reid. It's pretty damn good.

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Speaker 1: He was going to the playoffs constantly with Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: and Donald McNab. Now Belichick minus Brady hasn't been us

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Speaker 1: pretty Look at what Pete Carroll has done with Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson and Gino Smith. One Super Bowl win, another that

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Speaker 1: should have been won by one play, and a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that everyone had given up on. Now, so many teams

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Speaker 1: would be a static to have a guy like Geno Smith.

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Speaker 1: If I were saying this three years ago. It would

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Speaker 1: be crazy to say, but I would rather have Geno

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Speaker 1: Smith than Russell Wilson as our quarterback and as a

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos fan. I think it's all attributed to Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 1: In my mind, he has done more with less than

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Bill Belichick. I would say this Pete

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Speaker 1: with Gino is doing a little bit what Andy did

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Speaker 1: with Alex Smith, but I would say the Chiefs were better.

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Speaker 1: Pete's having a muscle flex year and a half right now.

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Speaker 1: This has been icing on a Hall of Fame career. Right,

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Speaker 1: Look what I can do, not only punning on Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson when everyone called med idiot because I wouldn't let

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Speaker 1: him throw it, which clearly it's hard because the rustle

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Speaker 1: you see now is a shell of what he was

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Speaker 1: when everyone was bitching and moaning about Pete Carroll. But

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll has now been successful for almost twenty five years, right,

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Speaker 1: whatever he takes over USC two thousand and one till

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Speaker 1: it was twenty twenty three, we're not that far away

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Speaker 1: from twenty twenty four. You're talking two and a half decades.

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Speaker 1: The guy's been winning and winning pretty big national titles,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl went to another. If he goes to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs again, he's not gonna win the division. But he

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Speaker 1: goes to the playoffs again with this team and they

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Speaker 1: win ten eleven games. I think Pete Carroll sometimes you

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Speaker 1: get your success can get overshadowed by who else is

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Speaker 1: successful around you. Like there were a lot of great

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Speaker 1: players in Michael Jordan's era, but as long as Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan was playing, he was gonna take all the air

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Speaker 1: out of the discussion. Right. It's no different sometimes with coaches,

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Speaker 1: they're all Kirby Smart, I think, is an all time superstar,

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Speaker 1: but Nick Saban's still coaching. So I mean Kirby might

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Speaker 1: win three straight national championships. Saban has seven, So like

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Speaker 1: Andy and Belichick now have a combined what Bill have six?

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Speaker 1: Andy's got two and he might keep stacking another one

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Speaker 1: in the next couple of years. You're just looking at

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Speaker 1: two guys that have a historic amount of wins. You know,

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Speaker 1: Belichick's trying to be the winning this coach of all

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Speaker 1: time in the NFL. Andy Reid just last week became

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Speaker 1: the fourth winningest coach of all time. Now what Pete's

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Speaker 1: doing is you could argue in terms of similar age,

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Speaker 1: he's similar age to Belichick and he's younger in those guys.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's part of it is those guys

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Speaker 1: take up a lot of air in the conversation. But

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Speaker 1: specifically Andy now that Bill. I don't think people consider

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Speaker 1: Bill the best coach right now, and part of that

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Speaker 1: has to do with he doesn't have a quarterback. Now,

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Speaker 1: you could argue it's his own doing, like he's the

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Speaker 1: guy the draft of Mac Jones fifteenth. Overall, he's the

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Speaker 1: guy that wins into a season with no real quarterback

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Speaker 1: when Tom left and I had to go with Cam Newton.

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Speaker 1: So I kind of questioned Bill sometimes, like what are

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Speaker 1: we doing? He's the guy that made Matt Patricia his

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Now, I was in Philadelphia when Andy made

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Speaker 1: what was his name, one Castill the defensive coordinator. So

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Speaker 1: let's coaches make mistakes. But Pete Carroll is a fucking stud,

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Speaker 1: is an absolute baller, And yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't get talked about enough. Appreciate everyone listening. We'll

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Speaker 1: have instant reaction after the Thursday night games. Very very

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Speaker 1: excited for that one to have a good Thursday talkson

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Speaker 1: bit the volume