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Speaker 1: Chevin Jenny, ESPN, SHIA. You're listening to Hawkslive. I'm Michael

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Speaker 1: bump Is. That is Paul Moyer behind the scenes of

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Speaker 1: s Natschachoby getting it done. And right now we get

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Speaker 1: to talk to John Macholda from the Athletic John, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing today? Joe? Well, how are you guys?

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Speaker 1: You know we can't complain good now we're hanging in

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Speaker 1: What are your initial thoughts of these Cowboys? I mean,

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Speaker 1: they almost lose a game to a team they probably

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Speaker 1: sidekick that Atlanta decided to watch spin. Jerry Jones is

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Speaker 1: in the booth losing his mind. Then he's crazy. All

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Speaker 1: these emotions happened within five minutes of real time. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this football team? I still need

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Speaker 1: to see a lot more just from these first two weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, you look at it, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: similarity as the previous Cowboys teams, which hey, we should

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Speaker 1: kind of expect without having the normal off season, without

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Speaker 1: having any creases in games, so there's definitely some growing

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Speaker 1: pains and some adjusting going on here. I'd say my

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Speaker 1: is going to be kind of what we thought it was.

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Speaker 1: It was gonna be very strong offensively, the offense is

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Speaker 1: gonna have to carry this team will go as far

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Speaker 1: as that offense can carry them. Defensively, it just hasn't

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Speaker 1: been very good. You know. At the one spot I

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Speaker 1: thought would be good is at least upfront with Alden

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Speaker 1: good pass rush, and they're just it hasn't been there.

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Speaker 1: They got two sacks in two games. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just it's been a huge disappointment there, and so they

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Speaker 1: a pretty high scoring game here coming up Sunday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They're they're awfully talented, and I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: it like to see a hundred thousand seat stadium with

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand or what was the number? Where did they

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Speaker 1: a later arriving crowd, which the Cowboys usually have for

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Speaker 1: those in all their noon games here. But by the

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Speaker 1: Every Cowboys fan in the building was like, I can't

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Speaker 1: Right from the beginning, you knew that they were gonna

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Speaker 1: He puts in perfectly to that slot role that was

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones stepped in, and he wanted TD to wear

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Speaker 1: eighty eight. Now he says it's because of his old

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Speaker 1: that he liked it when that top receiver is wearing

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Speaker 1: at least he didn't seem like an eighty eighth to me.

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Speaker 1: But should be looking out for this week. Well, definitely

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Speaker 1: on defense, it's the rookie corner Trayvon Diggs and his

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Speaker 1: two is that they had moved to a three four

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Speaker 1: would look for them to be rushing more like four

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Speaker 1: to three edge rushers in this game. John, you hit

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Speaker 1: us with a lot of knowledge today. We appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking time out of your day to

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Speaker 1: holler out us. Man. Have a good one, all right

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Speaker 1: you two man? Thanks for m mem All right, that

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Speaker 1: was John. Up. Next, we get to talk to Seahawk

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Speaker 1: I'm Michael Bumpings. He's Paul Moyer. You're listening to Hawks

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Speaker 1: Live from Century Link Field every Thursday right here at

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Speaker 1: seven ten at seven o'clock. Right now, we get to

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Speaker 1: talk to Cody Barton. How are you doing, Cody? Hey?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Guys? Thanks for having me, Hey, thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us. Thank you. I say your name Cody,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to say CB. Does anyone ever

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Speaker 1: call you CB? Like growing up some of your boys? Anybody? Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: people call me CB. I'd say, I told him, don't

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Speaker 1: ask that it what if he says, no, I get

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Speaker 1: your your your questions over man again, it goes right

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Speaker 1: to me. Hey, I rolled the dice, CB. Let's get

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Speaker 1: it baby, Paul. What you guys? Yeah, you right there? Hey, hey, Cody,

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Speaker 1: Before I get into a couple of things. Last week

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Speaker 1: we had on kJ Wright. Uh, he was nice enough

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Speaker 1: to join us, and Bump asked him a question, who

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Speaker 1: want you to hear what he had to say about that.

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Speaker 1: I believe out of all the linebackers that code, you

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Speaker 1: have the best camp. You know, out of everybody, he

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Speaker 1: got somebody did really think of um got some picks

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Speaker 1: that's high praise for one of the classiest, smartest, you know,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on what he had to say there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, coming from from a guy like Cage, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you looked down like that and you know it,

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Speaker 1: Cage is someone I look up to and you know,

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Speaker 1: like you said, you know it's super smart player. Um,

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Speaker 1: It makes plays. And so to hear him say that

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Speaker 1: so let's talk about this week. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I had some entries obvi with Irvin. Um. I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: Is that is that correct? I don't know, man, I

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Speaker 1: Well again, with that kind of high praise, I expect

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be on the field this week, that's for sure. Hey, Cody,

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Speaker 1: you had go ahead, go Cody. You had a play

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Speaker 1: And so we're all running down there towards the ball

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Speaker 1: But it's different running down and kickoffs and punch and

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Speaker 1: all that that for you. They call that flexing. That

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Speaker 1: special teams are a big part of the of the game. Well,

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Speaker 1: so I mean, and I take pride and special teams

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Speaker 1: And so I enjoy special teams and the things I

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Speaker 1: didn't notice that was different here is you know, in college,

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Speaker 1: That's some guys make a living just on special teams.

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Speaker 1: having fans of everything, like especially intentially the twelves are

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Speaker 1: the best. But it's it's a different environment where you

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Speaker 1: cool to hear that stuff. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: But kJ and Bobby do get there early. They probably

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Speaker 1: go back in time in my day. Yeah, we were there.

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Speaker 1: We would actually do special team meetings that we would

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Speaker 1: for back then it was like two and a half hours.

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Speaker 1: Come back watch film. You guys aren't allowed on the

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Speaker 1: part of your time in the field. No, we're allowed

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Speaker 1: What challenges are you seeing presented by the Dallas Cowboys. Um,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, they got a lot of weapons, you know.

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Speaker 1: to do? And how how how can they try you here,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the games in the game. I really

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Speaker 1: obviously it's evolved, it's change. But you're right, you don't know.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna ask you one one personal question again.

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Speaker 1: You guys get one day off a week it's Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: What do you do on Monday night to have some

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Speaker 1: right there. No, no just friends come over. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know you're saying Monday night. But my one night

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just hanging out watching the show, relaxing.

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Speaker 1: Because then even even on Tuesday, on our on our

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Speaker 1: off day, it's it's back to ball, even though it's

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Speaker 1: our off day, you know what I mean. So that's

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Speaker 1: that's maybe the two or three hours out of the

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Speaker 1: week that I really just had to re just un

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Speaker 1: fucking mind. Takes it easy on a Monday. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you hollering at us on a Thursday. Yeah, that Monday,

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Speaker 1: he's taking easy. He's more than you do in a week. Hey, yes,

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Speaker 1: by far, by far, Hey, Cody, appreciate you taking time man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me. All right,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Cody, all right, we got you covered with all

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Speaker 1: things Seahawks in the NFL. As a professor, John Clayton

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Speaker 1: joins us next on Hawkslide. Hawks Slid every Thursday from

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Speaker 1: seven and nine, live on air on scheven. Jenny ESPN shout,

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Speaker 1: I'm Michael bumpas he's Paul Moyer. This is Hawkslive every

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Speaker 1: Thursday at seven right here on seven ten ESPN. And

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Speaker 1: we got some funk playing, so you know what's coming

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Speaker 1: to them. Next, we got John clay John, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing? I'm doing great Now they've got the music going.

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Speaker 1: What are we gonna do tomorrow? I was hoping that

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Speaker 1: Dave Wiman was going to be there, So what are

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Speaker 1: we gonna do with Jim Moore watching Gardner Minshew getting

449
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Speaker 1: absolutely blown out having a bad game against Ryan Fitzpatrick. Hang,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it, David. I'm gonna go home and

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Speaker 1: hear him take over. No, you've done. I want you

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Speaker 1: to hear Okay, it's just checking no again. It's like

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Speaker 1: we talked about this because you know what he is.

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Speaker 1: As far as a Gardner Minshew fan, man, I think

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Speaker 1: everybody in this area is. But I mean he's been

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Speaker 1: often and throwing. He's down like three touchdowns, and it

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Speaker 1: has been ugly. Yeah, it's been ugly, But I'm a Coogan. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we make ugly things pretty at times. John. So hopefully

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Speaker 1: he turns it around. I'm hoping he does. John, Hoping

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Speaker 1: he does. John. After two weeks of NFL play, this

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Speaker 1: NFC West is looking tough, isn't it. It really is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can arguably say it's the best division

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Speaker 1: in a two weeks start that we've almost ever seen.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's only been two times since they went

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Speaker 1: to eight divisions back in what nineteen sixty nine that

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Speaker 1: you've had seven and one starts by the four teams

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Speaker 1: in the division, three teams being six and Ozero. And

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Speaker 1: that was back in two thousand and two, and I

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Speaker 1: was in the AFC West and I think the Raiders

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Speaker 1: were one and one and they ended up going to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And so now what you're looking at

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Speaker 1: is you got three teams, San Francisco being one and one,

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Speaker 1: but three teams being two and oh, and you look

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Speaker 1: at the three teams. I mean Arizona, we knew it

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Speaker 1: was going to be probably one of the most improved

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Speaker 1: teams in football, and they are. But I'm still stunned

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Speaker 1: by the Rams because they're they're a little bit better

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Speaker 1: on offense, not a little but not great. But you know,

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Speaker 1: they got the three running back rotation and Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: has four touchdown passes in two games. But I'm stunned

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Speaker 1: by how well they're doing on defense because I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you take Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers and then

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, name me the other eight starters who's not

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Speaker 1: named Victor Rapp. We don't know who the other seven

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Speaker 1: starters are, but they're doing well well. If you don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Yeah, nobody knows. John. I

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Speaker 1: was looking at some statistics today and I just mentioned

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Speaker 1: we had Cody Barr earlier. And there are ten offenses

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Speaker 1: right now averaging over four hundred yards a game. Is

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Speaker 1: it just offensive gotten better, which my goodness, that's a

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Speaker 1: huge jump in one year. Is it just defense having

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Speaker 1: to be able to practice? Is it rule? What was

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Speaker 1: going on here? We thought what was going to happen

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Speaker 1: was that defenses were going to have the edge on

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Speaker 1: the offenses because it's hard to put together, an offensive

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Speaker 1: line scheme that's going to click in the first couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. We thought it was gonna be hard to

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Speaker 1: get a passing offense together in the first couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: and we were wrong because one ended up happening is

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Speaker 1: that now you have eleven quarterbacks that have one hundred

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Speaker 1: hundred plus quarterback rating, that including Russell Wilson. You know

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Speaker 1: that the quarterbacks are doing great. You have more running

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Speaker 1: than you've had and maybe in the last five six

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Speaker 1: years that's doing well. Offensive lines other than the ones

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Speaker 1: that have had too many changes where they've had maybe

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Speaker 1: four changes on the offensive line, they're doing well. So

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Speaker 1: the offenses are so much further ahead than the defenses.

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Speaker 1: And if you have a quarterback who's good, and of

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Speaker 1: course you've got eleven quarterbacks right now with one hundred

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Speaker 1: plus quarterback rating, you have a big edge. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like anything else, we can't predict what

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Speaker 1: it was going to be like when you have such

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Speaker 1: a new thing where you didn't have offseason programs and preseason.

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Speaker 1: But again, we're seeing his offenses at a high level.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at this stage right now, offenses are averaging

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty five point fifteen points a game. That's

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Speaker 1: the best ever in the first two weeks of an

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Speaker 1: NFL season, sixteen hundred and eleven yards on points. John.

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Speaker 1: There have been a lot of injuries this first couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, teams owing two teams one on one. Which

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Speaker 1: teams should be panicking the most? I have an idea

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Speaker 1: who it is. I want to see what you think.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, although they're not going to panick this week,

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Speaker 1: they're playing a bad Giants team to last. Quon Barkley

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Speaker 1: and Sterling Shepard, you know, two key offensive guys on

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Speaker 1: their team. But they're in deep, deep trouble right now

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco because they lose Nick Boza, Solomon Thomas,

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Speaker 1: you know, they two running backs for Heem Mostert, and

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Speaker 1: they lose Tevin Coleman with a knee injury. They're already down.

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, you know they're down. They've had seven wide

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Speaker 1: receivers either on opt outs or injured reserve. They can

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Speaker 1: be in big trouble once they get past the Giants game.

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Speaker 1: And believe me, the number two team would be the

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Speaker 1: team the Seahawks play on Sunday, the Dallas Cowboys because

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Speaker 1: they're starting two cornerbacks or out two linebackers, or out

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Speaker 1: Sean Lee and Layton vander esh You know, they have

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Speaker 1: an injured DeMarcus Lawrence at defensive end. They're two tackles

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Speaker 1: are injured. You've got Collins on injured reserve, and right

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Speaker 1: now they don't know if Tyron Smith's gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to play. So you throw all those together. San Francisco

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Speaker 1: and Dallas right now in very bad shape. And this

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Speaker 1: is a Dallas team, believe it or not that you

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Speaker 1: talk about their ability to rush the passer. They're worse

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Speaker 1: than Seattle because they only have two sacks six pressures

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Speaker 1: a game, and where Seattle has three sacks and eight

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Speaker 1: pressure is a game. And they've got a situation where

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Speaker 1: they're turning things around and going to a hybrid three

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Speaker 1: four four three defense and it's not working. They can't

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Speaker 1: get pressure on the quarterback. Yeah, this will be an

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Speaker 1: interesting week, you know, certainly for the Seahawks. Look Land,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't give up sacks. Patriots don't give up sacks.

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Speaker 1: You know that Dallas is a tough one too, just

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Speaker 1: their their old line. But yeah, I want I want

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Speaker 1: to ask some nineteen eighty three I had a broken

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Speaker 1: rib and I got a shot and it was a

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Speaker 1: long needle. I mean we're talking long now. If I'd

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Speaker 1: have known they could puncture my lung doing that, I

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Speaker 1: may not have had it. And by the way, I

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Speaker 1: didn't get one in the second half because the shot

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Speaker 1: hurt more than the rib. But you know, just one,

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Speaker 1: what's the fallout from that? And with Tyrod Taylor, who's

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Speaker 1: the one who ended up having to go to the hospital,

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Speaker 1: what's the fallout from it? And two does he get

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Speaker 1: his job back? No? I think right now, if Justin

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Speaker 1: Houston plays as well as he did in taking Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes into overtime and actually having a double against Patrick

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Speaker 1: Ohons in the Kansas City Chiefs, I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be hard for Tyrod Taylor to be able to get

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Speaker 1: a starting job back. But I mean, it was a

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Speaker 1: weird situation because he hurt his ribs in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the week last week in practice and so you know,

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Speaker 1: he felt they want to put him on the injury

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Speaker 1: list on Friday, but he felt good enough that it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me get a shot on Sunday and see where

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Speaker 1: it goes. So ninety minutes before the game, he gets

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Speaker 1: a shot. What he didn't realize it punctured his lung

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Speaker 1: and so now sixty seconds before the start of the game,

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Speaker 1: he can't breathe, and they say, okay, justin Houston, you

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Speaker 1: go in there and start. And so now what you're

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Speaker 1: looking at. I don't know how long he's going to

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Speaker 1: be out, but with a punctured lung, he's got to

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Speaker 1: be an extended period of time. But it's like, these

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Speaker 1: things happen, and of course, you know being in that

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Speaker 1: locker room, and again these are things I can't see,

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Speaker 1: but you've seen this happens more than we can expect

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Speaker 1: that something like that can happen. But again, it's so strange,

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Speaker 1: and it's so bad for Tyrod Taylor. You know, you

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Speaker 1: got Anthony Lynn head coach really likes him a lot

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Speaker 1: and wants him to be the starting quarterback, but he

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Speaker 1: can't put him out there until he's one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a while before he's one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: I like Tyrod Taylor too. I think he's one of

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Speaker 1: those guys he's just got to find someone's just gotta

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Speaker 1: stick with them because he's got an arm. He got

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Speaker 1: all the ability to be a great one. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that when you do that rip thing and you know

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Speaker 1: it is hard to breathe, but go ahead, Sorry about that, John.

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Speaker 1: We got a bunch of teams that ow into Lions, Giants, Texans, Panthers, Bengals, Jets, Vikings, Eagles, Dolphins, Falcons, Broncles.

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Speaker 1: Is there any coach who should be concerned about their

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Speaker 1: job at this point? Yeah? Two, Matt Patricia and Adam Gays.

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Speaker 1: Patricia from the standpoint, can you believe a team with

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Speaker 1: a defensive head coach that has blown four double digit

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Speaker 1: leads in his last four games dating back to last year,

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Speaker 1: and when he's had double digit leads when he's a

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Speaker 1: head coach, he's two seven and one, and he's a

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Speaker 1: defensive coach and the defensive coach that the players on

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Speaker 1: defense don't like, so that's got to be bad. And

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Speaker 1: then you got Adam Gays, who right now looks totally

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Speaker 1: clueless with the New York Jets. He's an offensive coach.

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Speaker 1: They got the worst offense in football. He was there

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Speaker 1: to try to develop Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold because of

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver problems that they have, because of the

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Speaker 1: play calling that they have. Remember he doesn't like paying

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Speaker 1: running backs. They gave him Levion Bell at fourteen point

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Speaker 1: one million dollars and Levion Bell average three point two

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Speaker 1: yards I carry, worst in Jets history. And now you

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Speaker 1: look at this team, they have nothing left at wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's on the stage right now where they

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Speaker 1: have so many injuries on the team. He's just looking

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Speaker 1: forward to somebody who has a chance to have a

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Speaker 1: pulse to be able to play. This thing is an

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Speaker 1: absolute disaster. Those two coaches along with dan Quinn. Although

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'll fire dan Quinn, but I'd say

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Speaker 1: Patricia and Adam Gays are right now in the most

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Speaker 1: vulnerable sparts. John, I got one more for you, real quick.

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Speaker 1: I was under the impression, all right, I thought that come.

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Speaker 1: I think it too this season that if Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: didn't perform at a high level, Jalen Hurts will get

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Speaker 1: an opportunities to play and he will take over that

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Speaker 1: starting spot. What do you see as the quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: in Philly. I don't stay with Carson Wentz. They're paying

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Speaker 1: him what thirty two million dollars a year, Maybe not

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Speaker 1: the thirty four that went to Jared Goff, but they'll

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Speaker 1: still stand by him. You know, you go back to

635
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Speaker 1: last year they had nothing at wide receiver and he

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Speaker 1: still got them into the playoffs. But clearly I think

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Speaker 1: with the offensive line problems. I remember they now have

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Speaker 1: their starting four of their five offensive lineman injured, including

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Speaker 1: Andre Dillard. You know, they had to put a guard

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Speaker 1: down this week. So I'll tell you what what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna take a break here and continue along.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be with the huddle. It's seven ten ESPN

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Speaker 1: Seattle Hawks Sucks Live on every Thursday from seven to nine,

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Speaker 1: your host, Paul and Michael Bumpus, Michael Bumps Palmer and

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Speaker 1: Nasa Shoby. This is Hawks Live Everything or is they

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Speaker 1: right here? On seven ten ESPN at seven o'clock from

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Speaker 1: Century Lincolns. And now we're gonna talk about what we

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Speaker 1: saw and what we need to see. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: something we saw, Paul Morier, what you see. We saw

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Speaker 1: a defense that when they needed to make a play,

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Speaker 1: when it mattered the most, Bobby Wagner puts the D

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Speaker 1: line on a slam. He fills the gap, forces the

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Speaker 1: guard to come block him. Lane o' hill controls the edge,

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Speaker 1: forces everything inside, and LJ gets low, wins the leverage

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Speaker 1: battle and tackles Cam in the backfield. That's what I saw. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all three actually did good things. What was interesting is,

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Speaker 1: you know the Patriots had actually ran three plays like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it was either the second or third where

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Speaker 1: they actually motioned the wing over and then also shifted

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Speaker 1: the back over. Cam kind of pointed. So Bobby at

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Speaker 1: that point, again, Bobby's not calling the play. They gets

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Speaker 1: to play, and but he has the option, how is

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Speaker 1: gonna slant depending on the formation, right, And so he goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're slanting right or rip whatever, righty whatever you rip whatever.

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Speaker 1: It starts with an R and anything after counts. But

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Speaker 1: which was a great call, veteran veteran call. But he

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Speaker 1: also had the wherewithal to see the guard pull and

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Speaker 1: realize he could run underneath. He could run through that

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Speaker 1: gap and catch Cam. It stopped the guard pulling that

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Speaker 1: he had to come back and block. Bobby. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with LJ. Call your great job there. Not

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Speaker 1: only did he slant, he was being held like you know,

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Speaker 1: what I mean hard. And the Patriots had two penalties,

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Speaker 1: their first drive for five yards, their last drive for

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Speaker 1: five yards, nothing in between. They were holding our guys

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Speaker 1: like not to complain. We won the game, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: let that go. But he got held hard. He fought

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Speaker 1: through it, he ripped through it, and he fought hard

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Speaker 1: to get up field. And in Lanto Hill, not only

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Speaker 1: did he take on the guy who was blocking them,

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Speaker 1: I think it was the fullback. Um. He worked his

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Speaker 1: way not just a field, but he worked his way

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Speaker 1: in and he actually hit Cam Newton. I mean it

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Speaker 1: wasn't that he just forced it in. He actually I

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Speaker 1: think initiated contact him and M and LJ. Caller, So

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Speaker 1: it was it was a great play of veteran play.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I just think it's we make place.

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Speaker 1: Are they proud of the fourth quarter giving up four

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards fourteen first downs or two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty yards fourteen first downs? No, I mean, you've

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Speaker 1: got a big lead. We gave up a big play.

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Speaker 1: I think Jamal Adams got beat by Edelman right after

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Speaker 1: we had taken a double digit lead. But I keep

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Speaker 1: coming back to my second week in a row, where

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, I'm more encouraged now than ever

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Speaker 1: because we're going to play so much better. We have playmakers,

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Speaker 1: we have Dunbar, we have Jamal Adams. The big one

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Speaker 1: that I think hurt us more than anything, Dig's getting

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Speaker 1: kicked out of the game. Yeah, looked at was a

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Speaker 1: big factor in the game. So I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: continue to play better than with two and O and

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Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about And I don't care how many

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Speaker 1: yards they give up, doesn't matter. Two and L right,

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Speaker 1: that's all that matter. Talk to me about this offense. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you kind of surprised? I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's a jump from last year. Yeah, I am surprised.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that. I thought we would gradually see

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Speaker 1: and feel like Russell Wilson is kind of driving this thing.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it'd be two weeks in a row

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Speaker 1: to where yet Russell was definitely driving this. But then

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Speaker 1: I also look at the adjustments that Shotty has made.

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Speaker 1: He's up, he's up in the booth. That changes the game.

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Speaker 1: That tells me two things. One, he's up in the booth,

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Speaker 1: he trusts Russell Wilson. He goes look I can communicate

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Speaker 1: with him from here, we can communicate effectively, we can execute.

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Speaker 1: I'm good here. But then I also think that him

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Speaker 1: being up there just allows him to see the game differently.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've we've called plays, we've been on the field,

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Speaker 1: we've been up in the booth. And I was a

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Speaker 1: head coach. I'm in Roe High School for five years.

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Speaker 1: My last year I was offensive coordinated for all five

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Speaker 1: But my last year I wanted to go in the

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Speaker 1: booth so bad because I'm calling plays and I'm lying

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Speaker 1: on people to relay stuff to me, which I trust

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Speaker 1: those guys, but there's nothing like seeing it yourself and

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Speaker 1: believe in it yourself. So I think Shaddy making that

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Speaker 1: adjustment has taken this offense to the next level, along

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Speaker 1: with Russell doing what he's been doing. Yeah, because I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure that it's a scheme change, it's a slight

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Speaker 1: philosophy change in that, hey, if the past is working,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna keep going with it. There's no reason to

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Speaker 1: run it again. I think this offense right now is

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Speaker 1: the most dangerous it's ever been because if you can't

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Speaker 1: stop the run, we'll run it ten times in a row.

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Speaker 1: And if you can't stop the pass, we'll throw it

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Speaker 1: ten times in a row. And if you're not sure

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Speaker 1: we'll run it, we'll throw it a little bit. Like

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Speaker 1: last week, it was a very balance balance offense. The

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Speaker 1: thing I think has been interesting is I think it's

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the relationship between Shaddy and Russell.

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Speaker 1: It's and again, I plays a play. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what play you call, right. I mean sometimes the timing

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Speaker 1: of it, but there's something about the flow of it.

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Speaker 1: So you offensive coredator, you're an offensive guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes there's just a feel of flow with you and

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Speaker 1: your quarterback. And you had a great quarterback you're last year,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean he was, Yeah, he was good.

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Speaker 1: But talk about that relationship between offensive coordinator and a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's you know what it's like. We're married men. I'm married,

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Speaker 1: you're married. Our producer Nacid Chobya is married. It's like

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Speaker 1: when you just have one of those good days to

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Speaker 1: where the kids are in the car on time, the

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Speaker 1: lunches are made, we're on time getting to the pier,

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Speaker 1: We get onto the ferrest will and no one's crying

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Speaker 1: and everyone's ready to go. That's what a relationship feels

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Speaker 1: like between an offensive coordina and a quarterbacks, whereas everything

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Speaker 1: that happens is smooth and if there's a hiccup, you

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Speaker 1: get right back on track with effective communication and disbelief

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Speaker 1: in each other. So that's what I think is happening

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Speaker 1: right now, and I'm excited to see it. So now

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Speaker 1: I ask you, what do we need to see? Now?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not gonna let you ask me yet.

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Speaker 1: I want to stay on that one because how much

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Speaker 1: of it is shoddy on a play and the options

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Speaker 1: on that play for Russell to then say, okay, I

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Speaker 1: have these three four options, so you know, again, you

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Speaker 1: can call a play and a quarterback and I've only

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00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: got one or two options. But okay, I'm so good

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Speaker 1: now I see it ahead of time. I know exactly

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Speaker 1: what the defense is, so my first two reads are

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Speaker 1: gone before I even snap the ball. I'm going last

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Speaker 1: play of the game or the third down and one

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Speaker 1: and a half. Right, they got eleven guys up in

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Speaker 1: the box. Why did Russell decide to throw that one

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Speaker 1: to Tyler Locket? Even though I think it was the

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Speaker 1: right decision, it was incomplete. So how much of it

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Speaker 1: is I've called the play. But man, now Russell gets

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Speaker 1: to see the whole field and it's on Russell. Well,

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Speaker 1: that last play, I feel was just a check cover zero.

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Speaker 1: You gotta run play on, you check out, you throw

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Speaker 1: your goals and there's no other option right now, there's

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Speaker 1: no option yet, you got all your gaps accounting for.

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Speaker 1: They're bringing more than you can block. There's no way

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get a run off. So you have to

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Speaker 1: go over the top. No cover zero, no safety, You

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Speaker 1: take your shot. So I get that. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: that Shoddy is calling plays that he knows Russell is

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Speaker 1: comfortable with. Right, you run the sixty plays throughout the week,

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Speaker 1: and a good coordinator he ran that one. Well, Henderson's

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Speaker 1: that when you're getting your feedback in between these plays

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Speaker 1: during practice, he likes that one. You're you're registering stuff

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't even realize. He's listening to your You're

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00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: looking at your body language. How are you talking to him?

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Speaker 1: You know what? What's your language like? Through this whole

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00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: through this whole play, there's a lot of plays where

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00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: Shoddy or Russell goes a Shoddy and shotts like, nah,

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Speaker 1: that play is done. He's not comfortable with that play,

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Speaker 1: he's not He's not seeing what I'm seeing. So he's

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Speaker 1: calling plays that he feels like. I'm in Russell Wilson's shoes.

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Speaker 1: I have the VR glasses on, I'm quarterback, and we're

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00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. And I feel like, no matter

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Speaker 1: what happens, he's gonna be able to counter whatever he sees.

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Speaker 1: So the offensive coordinator can talk to the quarterback to

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Speaker 1: fifteen second before the snap. How much do you think, Shott,

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Speaker 1: he's really talking to him, you know? Or Hey, here's

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00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: the call, don't forget just boom boom. If if he

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Speaker 1: trusts him, it's five to eight seconds. Hey, here's the play, boom,

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Speaker 1: don't forget this, here's the key, go get it. And

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Speaker 1: Russell maybe going yeah, no, kid, and I already know that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm an offensive coordinator exactly now. This is this is fun.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I will say. I'll do them many flex

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Speaker 1: okayle in the last few years, I can you offensive

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Speaker 1: I have a pretty good idea by formation down a

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Speaker 1: distance where we are, but a pretty good idea what

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do. I do not know what they're doing

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00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: right now is really good. That it is good and

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Speaker 1: it's not like I, but you know, I studied the game,

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Speaker 1: and you studied the game. I get a feel for it.

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Speaker 1: And in the past ask I go, Mack, Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna run off tackle, they're gonna throw an

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Speaker 1: out rude here and hitch. I really don't know the

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Speaker 1: third one, you kind of I don't think there was

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Speaker 1: an option literally truly. They had eleven guys on a

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Speaker 1: line of scrimpings. Yeah, I mean, you could not run

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Speaker 1: the ball. You had to take your shot over go over.

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Speaker 1: The day wanted them to take the shot they had.

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Speaker 1: They forced them to say. They said, well, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: take our chance because we're gonna lose anyways if we don't.

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Speaker 1: But in mixed doowns, I don't know. We're not getting

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Speaker 1: to third down a lot, which means we're winning on mixdowns.

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Speaker 1: And I just there's a I bring this up a

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00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: there's a book called Blink. You see it something and

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Speaker 1: you just your instincts tells you what's gonna go on.

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Speaker 1: It happens a lot. It's not working for me with

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Speaker 1: their offense. I'm looking around like I don't know where

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Speaker 1: the ball is going, So I think that's a good thing. No,

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00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And I believe the two tight

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Speaker 1: end sets really help disguise what they want to do

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Speaker 1: because they will throw out of that two tight end

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Speaker 1: set when that is a traditional heavy big boys, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna run the football. So now I'm gonna ask you again, Paul,

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Speaker 1: and I one more. I wanted to ask it. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: all right, now, what do we need to see for

845
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Speaker 1: this team to take another step? Because there's another step

846
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: that needs to be taken. I feel like, well, it's

847
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: not offensively. Um well, if it was offensively, I was

848
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna ask you, I go. I'm actually surprised Will Disley

849
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: isn't more involved. I think he may. With the drop

850
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: from Olson last week to first throw to him, they're

851
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: gonna give up on Olson? Why right? No, I don't

852
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: think it's not a It was a drop and you

853
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: actually you brought this up on the postgame show. It

854
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: wasn't a drop. It was a defensive touchdown drop that

855
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: went the other way and you said it. I noticed

856
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: he didn't get another target and the rest of the game.

857
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a real I think he has confidence.

858
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised because Will Disley has been so good

859
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: in the passing game, and he's been quiet so far

860
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: this year. Maybe they're easy to mend because of his injury.

861
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: You've got Olson as a veteran, and so I see

862
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: that evolving. And I don't even know if we need

863
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon. I don't need if we know if we

864
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: need Dorset. I mean I like Swayne. I mean he's

865
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: he's been impressing since Camp. So offensively, I would like

866
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: to see Dely get a little more involved. Um Now defensively, man,

867
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: we got we got a lot to improve on. Well,

868
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: Quandre is looking better. I feel like Quandres struggled early

869
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: in the game. He had a mistackle against Julian Edelman,

870
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: who's not a big guy. You should wrap him up

871
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: and take him down. Um he missed a pick six, say,

872
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: could have scored an even the game up, But um,

873
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: bounce back, and I feel like he's slowly. I think

874
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: we'll see the best of Quan of of Dunbar. Okay,

875
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: So I was going to call, okay, we'll see the best.

876
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: We will see the best of Dunbar week five and six,

877
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: where for like his body has caught hip to his

878
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: mind because the mind, the mind is there. He recognizes

879
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: route concepts. He knows what he's supposed to do. But

880
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: now I was getting his body to react. I want

881
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: you to go watch his interception. So he to me

882
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: he's got the smoothest back pedal. I've heard some people say,

883
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: well he's he's not confident. He normally presses bumps. I go, no,

884
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He plays off. He's comfortable from off. He's

885
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: the best route reader from off in the NFL. That interception,

886
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: go watch him. He flipped his hips open before his

887
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: feet were on the ground. It's unbelievable. You gotta watch

888
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: it in slow motion. It's crazy. And now as hips

889
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: are open, once his feet hit the ground, he was

890
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: he was gone. I mean, he's he could have even

891
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: if the ball was a little more outside. I think

892
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: he still picks that unbelievable. He's getting his confidence. We

893
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: get digs back. Now this week, we're we're gonna be okay.

894
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna be okay. Quandre's flipping his hips in the

895
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: air and he's doing the matrix whatever. Check it out,

896
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: all right. Coming up next we go inside the film room.

897
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna break down the replays that we saw from

898
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots. That's Coming up next, Paul Moyer, Michael Bumbas

899
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: Hawks Live, Hawks Live every Thursday from seven to nine,

900
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: live on air on seven ten ESPN Seattle Hawk Slide

901
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: with me, Michael Bumps and him Paul Moyer. And now

902
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: we're going into the film room. The very first player

903
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna break down is Russell Wilson finding DK Metcalf

904
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: for fifty yard touchdown on the rainy. Defensive Player of

905
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: the Year Stefan Gilmour four man rushed by the Patriots,

906
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: Russ seven step drop, is gonna let it fly. D

907
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: got a man out here. It's Metcalf reaches up, thanks

908
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: the catch, touchdown, Seahawks. How in the world did he

909
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: catch that head? A man all over him and he

910
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: still reaches back catches a bomb for six. The Seahawks

911
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: are a point away from tying it up again from

912
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: fifty four yards and absolutely perfect rainbow to DK Metcalf. Now, Paul,

913
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a little inside on this this

914
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: play right here, Hey, Michael, want you give me some insight? Okay,

915
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: I got your ball. I'm gonna give you some insight.

916
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: So I asked DK Metcalf, is he comfortable playing in

917
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: the slot. You know what, he said, I'm a receiver,

918
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: so I said, I'm gonna say less. I'm gonna let

919
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: you do your thing this play. Right here, DK is

920
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: working from the slot and Gilmore is following him throughout

921
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: the game. Now they're manned up, Gilmore is locked in

922
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: in this Seattle offense that slot typically are a lot

923
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: a lot of the times runs deep crosses shallows. He's

924
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: going across the field. He's going across the field, and

925
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: that's exactly what DK sells right here. He goes, look,

926
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run that deep cross that you're expecting right

927
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: now that that safety is even even expecting by the

928
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: way that the safety is looking like it's gonna be

929
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: a deep deep cross or backside flag. Yeah. Yeah, So

930
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Gilmore says, I've seen this before. He's running a deep cross.

931
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: The safety goes, I've seen this before. He's running a

932
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: deep cross. DK does a great job putting his foot

933
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: in the ground, selling it, even looks back to the

934
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: quarterback and then whips his hips and gets on top

935
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: staying away from the safety. Now on the bottom, great

936
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: play design. I believe that David Moore, maybe even Freddie

937
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: Swain runs a dig to occupy that corner to pull

938
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: him downhill. So he has a one on one with

939
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: the safety backside safety or the middle safety going backside

940
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: expecting a post. He flips his hips, gets on top,

941
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: and now he's just a big boy. Once he has

942
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: a step on your you're on his hip. You just

943
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: have to pray that he drops his footbar, that you

944
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,959
Speaker 1: just mess up his flow enough to where he drops

945
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: the ball. Which Gilmore is in good position. He's not

946
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: in bad position. Right, It's not even a great throw

947
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: because d k As shall slow down and kind of

948
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: arms it right, I mean, if he leaves it out there,

949
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's definitely got Gilmore beat. But so

950
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: I'm a great great description. I'm gonna ask you one

951
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: of three things on his play, okay, because when it's

952
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: it's good protection as a four man rush. Actually, Dwayne

953
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: Brown kind of gets beat a little bit off a chip.

954
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: I think he got off balance on it. On it.

955
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: Is it a better throw, a better catch, or a

956
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: better design? I gotta go with design. Yeah, I'm gonna

957
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 1: go with design because I feel like I'm always gonna

958
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: give the coordinator the benefit benefit of the doubt. Like, look,

959
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: this is what we expect when we get in this

960
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: in this situation, with this formation on this area of

961
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: the field. So I feel like Shatty was like, Yep,

962
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna get, and then it just happens.

963
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: Now the design is great. Granted you get them in

964
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: a one high. They're manned up. So what do you do.

965
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: You show the cross safety's gonna flip his hips backside,

966
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: You run a dig get the corner out the way. Now, DK,

967
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: you go and beat your guy. DKA has to do

968
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: some things to make this work. But I love the design.

969
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: He's strong and look eighty ninety percent of the time

970
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: you're you're running an offense or defense that you've worked

971
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: in camp and all the time. And then then there's

972
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: that ten twenty percent where you game playing somebody. Yeah,

973
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: they game planned them. And I think this not only

974
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: did this change the game, it changed the confidence. I mean,

975
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: I think DK kind of knew. Oh, I'm in a

976
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: statement today against the best guy. You want me, you

977
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: sure be careful what you wish for. Give me a

978
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: little goosebumps right there. That was all right. The next play,

979
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: quintin Dunbar steps in front of demere Bird for the

980
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: interception's gonna throw far side and it's picked off on

981
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: the far side, getting up hurting up field Dunbar, but

982
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: he was touched down by the receiver on the far side.

983
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: They went one too many times well on the quick

984
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: out far side, and Dunbar was right there to pick

985
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: it off. All right, Paul, you got me, You got me,

986
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: Juice stuck with this one off air, Explain to me

987
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: what you saw here. Yeah, I mean, look, first of all,

988
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: you've got a tight formation. See if you've got two

989
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: two wide receivers a slot, look to our right and

990
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: and we call it a bunch, look to our left.

991
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: And so you've got you know, everybody inside the numbers.

992
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: You don't have anybody split out right. But I'm just

993
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: gonna talk about our right side, where Dunbar is. There's

994
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: just very few guys today that play off. He feels

995
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: comfortable playing in six seven, eight nine yards off. He

996
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: likes to a really smooth, slow backpedal. He's got such

997
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: fluid hips. And what I'm talking about here is I

998
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: was gonna you can't see it, but I highly recommend

999
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: you go and watch this thing if you can. He

1000
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: is he's about seven eight yards from the wide receiver,

1001
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: not necessarily the line of script, but from the wide receiver.

1002
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: And he's just got a smooth backpedal. I mean he

1003
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: just he takes maybe two or three yards in his backpedal.

1004
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: He reads the route. He's already sitting outside, so he

1005
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: already knows kind of what's coming right just being in

1006
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: his alignment. And once he puts his feet down, I'll

1007
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: tell you what he is explosive. I mean the mountive

1008
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: ground he covers on this throw, it's incredible. There's a

1009
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: lot of other things going on, but I really just

1010
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: to me, this is a dumbbar play. This is what

1011
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 1: if you go and watch him the last two years.

1012
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: This is why the Seahawks traded for him. And now

1013
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: that I think he's finally comfortable and trusting his instincts

1014
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: again and reading route, I think we're gonna seeing more

1015
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: of us. Yeah, I see a guy who recognizes what

1016
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: the receiver is trying to do. One dunbar has outside leverage,

1017
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: so anything break into the outside, he's gonna be good

1018
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: to go. As soon as that receiver hits his one, two,

1019
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: his third step and starts rolling that thing, he knows

1020
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: what he seemed and he's jumping on it. He's such

1021
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: a veteran. He was a receiver who got converted to

1022
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: a corner, so he knows what he's looking at. And

1023
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: I see a guy who's really confident. And I see

1024
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: a guy like I said earlier to where we're not

1025
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: going to see his best until week five or six.

1026
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, if you get a chance, you know, go

1027
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: go watch Griffin down below two. And Griffin's not as

1028
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: deep and mean. Fact, when he makes his break, he's

1029
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: at the forty five yard line, whereas Dunbar is sitting

1030
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: at the round the forty two forty three yard line.

1031
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: But if you go watch Griffin and Griffin's fantasy, he's

1032
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: a pro barye. He has a waste his step. He

1033
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: reaches way back with his left foot and he has

1034
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: to recover for that, and he might have intercepted if

1035
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: they threw it to their guy too, the smoothness of Dunbar. God,

1036
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: there's a guy named Dave Brown, you know, matfac we're

1037
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: here at Century Link. He's up here in the Ring

1038
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: of Honor. He's to my left, you know, God bless him.

1039
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: He passed away a while back. One of my dear friends.

1040
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: He was one of the best off guys as well.

1041
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: And I think you know he had sixty two sixty

1042
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: three interceptions in his career. So is that is not me?

1043
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: That's not even a flex. I know, I was gonna ask, like,

1044
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: that's good, right, he should be in the he should

1045
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. I think it's the most

1046
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,959
Speaker 1: interceptions of anybody who's not in the Hall of Fame.

1047
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: All right, our last play we got LJ. Collier stops

1048
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: Cam Newton on the one yard line to win the

1049
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: ball game. Newton from the shotgun. Johnson, the fullback wings

1050
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: on the left side. Newton's gonna run the ball. He

1051
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: gets hit, He flipped up in the air. He doesn't

1052
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: get there. Clock ticks down. It's all zeros who play

1053
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: by the Saint Hawk's defense. They throw their helmets, they

1054
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: are going nuts on the field. Cam Newton the first

1055
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: time tonight, I believe they've stopped him dead in his tracks.

1056
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: And I believe it was Bobby Wagner who got there

1057
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: to do it. One an end to one a game.

1058
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: The Seahawks win thirty five to thirty over the Patriots. Wow, now, Paul,

1059
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 1: I have a confession to make with this play. One

1060
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: when they were in that situation, I thought the game

1061
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: was over. I'm thinking, then they're not gonna stop Cam again.

1062
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: Cam wants one or two yards, He's gonna be able

1063
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: to get that. My second confession is I didn't notice

1064
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: what you pointed out earlier about Lano Hill. Yes, he

1065
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: sets the edge, he takes on the blot, but he

1066
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: takes on the contact and then keeps crawling and gets

1067
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: to Kim Newton. I think he needs a little more

1068
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: love than he got. No, you know, when I look,

1069
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: I think if Cam saw this again, he would have

1070
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: tried to have bounced it outside, and he probably scores

1071
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: if he does. But because Lano is far enough upfield,

1072
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: that would be a tough bounce. And you know, this

1073
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: is where it's the little things, right, the little things

1074
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: him making big plays. He could have stopped right there

1075
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: and taken on the fullback right there, who was look

1076
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: film study. I mean, if I it's a big boy game.

1077
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: They got an extra tackle playing their left tight end

1078
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: right to us. They had motioned over a tiden who

1079
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: was in the backfield and played him kind of in

1080
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: a wing but really on the line of scramming, so

1081
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: that tackle wasn't even eligible because I think he's covered.

1082
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: They had widened the fullback almost out to the tight end,

1083
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: so there you know where it's going. This is rip rip.

1084
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: Everybody's slant, right, that's Bobby Wagner. But if he just

1085
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: forced it back in and that's all he did, man,

1086
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: Callier's got to make one hell of a play and

1087
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: he's got to bring down a six foot six, two

1088
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pound maybe the best athlete in the NFL,

1089
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: top player. I mean, all Cam has to do is

1090
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: lean forward and he gets a touchdown. Right, he covers

1091
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: the yard and a half just in his size, so

1092
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: he crawls, he and he and because of that it

1093
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: allows call Your and him. There's nowhere for Cam Newton

1094
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: to run at that point, and they tumble him over.

1095
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: They chop a tree down. I mean it just over

1096
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: the top. It's it's such a great play. I could

1097
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: talk about this play all day long with Bobby Wagner,

1098
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: did even kJ Wright? Sure, so many great guys who

1099
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: did their job on this one. So many things went

1100
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: right when it mattered the most. And that's what championship

1101
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: teams do. You get your butt kick, you lose this

1102
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: third down battle, you get beat up top by Edelman,

1103
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: who doesn't take the ball down the field often, but

1104
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: when it matters the most, your guy Bobby Wagner sets

1105
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: everybody up and everyone executes. So don't you know what's

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00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: a great play? Was the play before this? It was

1107
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: Quentin Dunbar, He's got it was Edelman? He runs across

1108
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: all yes, yes, look it should have been a touchdown.

1109
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: If he doesn't make the tackle and bring him down

1110
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: hard it maybe it is a touchdown here and it

1111
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: gets so he stays with it. So to me, it

1112
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: was the way he tackled the guy rather than write him,

1113
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: which you would have ridden them into the end zone. There.

1114
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: There's so many great plays in this game, so many

1115
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: great plays. I hope we get more of this this weekend.

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00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: All right, Coming up next, we'll go around the NFL

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00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: with myself Michael Bump is. He is Paul Moyer. This

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00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: is Hawks Live. Tune in Hawks Clive every Thursday from

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00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: cheven and nine live on air on cheven Channy, ESPN

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00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: Shadow Hawks Live. Michael Bump is Paul more And that's

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00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: to Choby over they're doing his thing. He's producing this

1122
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: every Thursday seven o'clock Century Link we'll be here, and

1123
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: now we get to go around the NFL. Now we

1124
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: talk about the Hawks because that's what we do. But

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00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: now we're going around the NF. You hear the music

1126
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: you did the Raiders. Many might do the Raiders. It does,

1127
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: it does l but yeah, Raiders fans. So we're going

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Speaker 1: across the NFL. Now, I'm gonna talk about Drew Brees.

1129
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: He doesn't look like the Saint Drew Brees. He's throwing

1130
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of checkdowns. What do you if does this

1131
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: team have a chance to really get another Super Bowl?

1132
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: Because there are the favorites in then NFC prior to

1133
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: the season start. I think their defense is good enough.

1134
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: They my goodness, they've got skilled players all over the board.

1135
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: Tough matchups, yes, but here's what I was saying. Look,

1136
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: Drew Brees has been thinking and dunking for the last

1137
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: three years. Yeah, and if you if you have the

1138
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: team that can take that dank dunk away and be

1139
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: confident not getting beat over the top, you'll shut New

1140
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: Orleans down. There's still a tough matchup. To me, it's

1141
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: all about matchups and when they get to the playoffs,

1142
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: if they're their matchup of the right team. All right,

1143
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, A lot of teams passed on this man.

1144
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: They didn't he could get it done. I don't know

1145
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: if they didn't think he could get it done. I

1146
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: think it had more to do with injury. He had

1147
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: a shoulder injury. Look he you're looking last year, I mean,

1148
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: he couldn't throw the football. So now you're going, all right,

1149
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: what am I willing to do for him? Brilliant move.

1150
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna go to a I a coach offensive Cord

1151
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: and said we're gonna take what you do and do

1152
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: it the best, and we're also gonna get you to

1153
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: get back into your old form. Look, he looked good.

1154
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: He look not only he look good running and making

1155
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: good decisions. Um. Look, it's the highest completion percentage he's

1156
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: ever had over the last few games. So sometimes it's

1157
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: the right system. You know, at some point, you know

1158
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go and he's gonna have to

1159
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: go do it. But I think he's back if he

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00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: stays healthy. Paul Moyer, Josh Allen is the leading passer

1161
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Are you buying it? Well, we're gonna

1162
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: play him this year and they got a good defense,

1163
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: So you know, when I looked at the schedule earlier,

1164
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: I said, you know, the best quarterback we're gonna play

1165
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: probably Matt Ryan. Now that maybe Dak Prescott this week.

1166
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's gonna be Kyle Murray now that

1167
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: he's really starting to evolve. Um. No, I'm not completely

1168
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: bought on that, but I'm gonna be I haven't studied

1169
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: it that hard. I know they got a good defense.

1170
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: You know, we'll worry about them when we get you

1171
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: know who we have to worry about is Kyler Murray

1172
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: in the Arizona Cardinals. They're probably that. That's a good

1173
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: football team. You got Drake back there running the rock.

1174
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: You got Kyler who's running the rock as well. I

1175
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: believe he's top fifteen rushing in the NFL right now,

1176
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: got DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, when when we get to

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00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: those guys, they're gonna be a problem. It could be

1178
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: a shootout. Um. I think we actually match up pretty

1179
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: well with them. I don't know why. It's just, you know,

1180
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: sometimes it's perception where the Cowboys always go, Okay, we

1181
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: don't match up well with him because they're so balanced.

1182
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: I think there's things we could take away from Arizona,

1183
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: and to me, their defense hasn't proven anything yet. Maybe

1184
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: that's a forty two thirty five game. I'll take it

1185
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: all right. Ben Roethlisberger, he's back after the elbow surgery out.

1186
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: I've watched him play. It doesn't look like he's favoring it.

1187
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: It looks like he's following through with all of his throws.

1188
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: Should the league be taking the Steelers seriously at this point? Well,

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00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: I think they are. You look a lot of the

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: power rankings, they're way up there. I'm you know again

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00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: with him, Yeah, I just he's that kind of guy.

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00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: Go he's really he's like Cam Newton, really hard to

1193
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: get on the ground, right. I mean, they're they're a

1194
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: different type of players, so you got a game plan

1195
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: for them. But he's a guy that just makes a

1196
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: mistake at the weirdest time. You know, he has a

1197
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: great game for ninety eight percent of the time, but

1198
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: those two percent. But their defense is an issue. I

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Speaker 1: mean for teams. I mean, they get after the quarterback.

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00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: They're pretty talented. Look, if we played him in a

1201
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I'm happy now. Russell Wilson has been the

1202
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: talk of the league. I feel like at least he's

1203
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: one of the talks of the league. But slowly, but sureley, quietly,

1204
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is making his own case to be like, look,

1205
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: don't forget about me. No, I'm still doing my thing.

1206
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: I hope Aaron Rodgers wins the MVP. What's yep? And

1207
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: I hope Russell Wilson gets a couple of votes. Why

1208
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: I explain this to me because there has not been

1209
00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: an MVP who's won the Super Bowl this this century. Okay,

1210
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: and that that quickly you convinced me to go with

1211
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. Okay, yeah, sow No, no MVP has

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Speaker 1: won the super Bowl. Let's get him a couple of votes.

1213
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: But I want the Super Bowl, I really do. And

1214
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: I think Russell Wilson can win us a super Bowl.

1215
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: So Aaron, go air it out. You have more touchdowns,

1216
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Speaker 1: more yards, get two more votes than Russell. We'll go

1217
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: and take the Lombardi Trophy. You can have the MVP. Okay,

1218
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Speaker 1: So now I'm gonna talk to a safety. Oh yeah

1219
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: about a safety's play. Wow, Diggs got kicked out of

1220
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Speaker 1: the game. Hurts me for making just trying to make

1221
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: a play on the football, playing football. Overall thoughts on

1222
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Speaker 1: that whole situation. Well, first of all, I hate the rule.

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Speaker 1: You want to do that in high school, have at it,

1224
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: you want to do it in college? Okay, so be it.

1225
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: The NFL. These guys are playing football, yeah you So,

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Speaker 1: here's my issue. And you guys have heard me talk

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Speaker 1: about this a bunch that is such a bang bang play. Ye,

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01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: there's no to me, there's no shit in my mind.

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01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: The only way that we can stop these dangerous throws

1230
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: you have got to start finding the quarterback and the

1231
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that was find them, find them for making difficult.

1232
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: Who's gonna get but they just getting fined, got kicked

1233
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: out of the game, almost cast us the game because

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01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: he's that important the Seahawks. That's a slant route, you're

1235
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Speaker 1: gonna throw it there? How about how about that high

1236
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: how about you find both? So you were a huge

1237
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: Raider fan, right, you hated probably the Steelers like I

1238
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: did Terry Bradshaw as much as you know. Gotta go

1239
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: look at the statistics. I remember forget he talked about

1240
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: to because my job is to protect the receiver. So

1241
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: when they run an end route and I see a safety,

1242
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: I throw it down to the ground where only he

1243
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: can get it and protect him. They don't protect any

1244
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: receivers anymore. They throw it high. A matter of fact,

1245
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: I think they actually want you to get your head

1246
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: off so you can get a penalty. Receivers are untouchable.

1247
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: You cannot touch us. You must you must hug us

1248
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: and bring us down to the ground soft. Look. I

1249
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: bring a pillow and a blankie and maybe a little

1250
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: fuff of which we call the pacifier for our kids.

1251
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: I bring all three of those to us, and they say,

1252
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: here you go, Michael. But seriously, they want to take

1253
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: away the head helmet. The offense at some point has

1254
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: to help in that. You can't just put the owners.

1255
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, Paul, I don't know. Why

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01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: not there. I'm gonna many flex again. May I played

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Speaker 1: in the East West Shrine Game my senior year. We

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Speaker 1: weren't allowed to do certain play. We weren't allowed to

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Speaker 1: blitz um. The offense weren't allowed to do certain play

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Speaker 1: in a naturally So all I'm saying is, if you

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Speaker 1: throw that play and you you know, and that hill

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Speaker 1: that you threw the football, you were the reason for

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01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: that intersect point, that dangerous throw and digs is just

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01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: trying to He's just trying to make a play. To me,

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01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: there's it's like in a marriage. It takes two people

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: to fight. You can't just fight with yourself. I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even convinced myself. Here's the quarterbacks should start

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Speaker 1: being fined. Here's my arguments of that. Okay, it's like

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Speaker 1: the NBA. You think you have position on a guy,

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Speaker 1: but if you're feeder moving, they're gonna call the charge

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Speaker 1: on you. They're gonna call the charge. If you're feeder moving,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna call. So it's up to the defense to

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Speaker 1: make the safe tackle. Now, I'm not saying that it's

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Speaker 1: not tough. It's tough. I've I played safety varsity football

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01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: on Friday nights. I didn't Hey, I didn't do it

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01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: in that I didn't do it in the eighties. I

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01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: didn't have six picks in a season. You know, I

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01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: didn't do that. But you know, I kind of understand

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01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: what's going on, and it's tough on the defense. I

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01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: can meet in the middle with you. It should have

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01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: been kicked out the game. No you hate the rule? No, no, no,

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01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: I hate the rule. No. I think that he should

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01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: there should be a penalty. He should be fined, but

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01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: not should be fine, and I kicked out the game.

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01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: So here's where here's where I'm going with this, and

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01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: this could be a long time. I think there should

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01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: be a penalty because I get that you've got to

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01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: change behavior. A fine to me should be there is intent.

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Speaker 1: There's no intent there. I don't know how he could

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01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 1: have got out of the way, you guys. Intent is interpretation.

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Speaker 1: That's why he got thrown out the game. No, No,

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01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 1: that wasn't the intent. It was the rule of the law.

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01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: The rule of law was if you go helmet the

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: helmet on what they call a defenseless receiver, whatever that means,

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01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: then you're you're kicked out of the game. There's a penalty.

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Speaker 1: Intent means, we see it. You know what intent is

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Speaker 1: A guy comes in with a nailbo he's got his

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: head down and and he takes one extra step. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying that if the referees perceived that play as if

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Speaker 1: he's not trying to make the play, as he's not,

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Speaker 1: because there's helmet a helmet every single tackle in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: there's helmet. I'm okay with the penalty because they're trying

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01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: to change behavior. But what I what I don't like

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01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: is not only did he get kicked out of the game,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna get fined And there's no intent from that.

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01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: He didn't mean to do that, and not to you

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: and I, but to New York into these guys, there

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01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: might be some intent. That's the law. Right. So again,

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Speaker 1: a guy walks across the street, you hit him, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that you're gonna get a fine, You maybe get thrown

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Speaker 1: in jail. Did you mean to hit the guy? No,

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: but the guy was jay walking and they have to

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01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: serve to be hit. O. Man, that throw is like

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Speaker 1: a jay walker. Okay, hey, do not throw anything. If

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Speaker 1: you're in downtown Seattle, you better not throw the ball

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Speaker 1: on this one. I got. Yes, you know what, we

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01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: should find them if you walk across the street and

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Speaker 1: watch out a right exactly if Moya's driving, head on

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Speaker 1: the swivel because he's got the telltic he's going all right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we'll give you our final thoughts. This

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Speaker 1: has been great. Michaelbamas Palmas Hawks A Love Pawks Live

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Speaker 1: every Thursday from seven to nine, live on air on

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Speaker 1: seven ten ESPN Seattle. Michael Bumbas, Paul Moyer, Nasa Shoby,

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: This is Hawks Live on seven ten, this song right here,

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01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: Paul's all eyes on me by two. Wait wait wait,

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01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: you looked at me and said that like you didn't know. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm like I didn't know. Look, I'm still talking about

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01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: digs and the head hunting thing, and NASA is on

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01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: my side and we're we're going, what do you mean

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01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm on your side? Kind of about that? Real real quick?

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01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: Do do I ever get a choice in a song

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Speaker 1: or music? I mean typically no, but if you want

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Speaker 1: to put a request or in the break some jay

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01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: Z stuff, I'd like to throw you know, I'm like,

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01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: all right, so but you know we beat that one

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Speaker 1: to death. We did, and we're gonna come back to

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01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: that at some point before the years because I'm just

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Speaker 1: getting definitely yeah all right, So final thoughts, Yeah, what

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01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: does this team need to do to start off this

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01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: season three? Now? In my opinion, can I'll get my

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01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: first My opinion is they need to limit Dak Prescott's performance.

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01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: Ezekiel is gonna do what he's gonna do. He has

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01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: a decent offensive line in front of him. I believe

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01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: if you hold him around eighty to one, hundred yards,

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01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: one touchdown, You're good to go. Dak Prescott is a

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01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: person you need to worry about because he has Ceedee Lamb.

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01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: He's got Amari Cooper, He's got Michael Gallup and even Schultz,

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01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: who scored the only receiving touchdown last week against the

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Speaker 1: line of Falcons. The second half, Dak Prescott accounted for

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns. He's the first NFL quarterback to throw for

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Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty fifty yards and Russ for three touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He's playing at a high level. He needs a little

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01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: bit more attention. I don't think he gets enough attention,

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01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: just like Russell doesn't. I don't think Dak gets enough love.

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01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: Dak's gonna have to play really well because we have

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Speaker 1: this guy named Russell Wilson is playing at him in

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Speaker 1: historic level. I mean, nine touchdowns and two games is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a shootout. You know, I

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: think both defenses are struggling. Uh. You know the Seahawks

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01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: have also played two I think very good, well coached offenses,

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01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: two very good quarterbacks. The third one. It may not

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Speaker 1: get much better this week. Um, you're gonna play the

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01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: most balanced team you've played all year in the Cowboy

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01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: and they can run it, they can throw it. You

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01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: know what, what what do they need to do better?

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01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: I think one is m make sure they make the

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Speaker 1: plays when it's there. So Pete Carroll talked about the

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Speaker 1: pass for us. You know, they had a chance to

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Speaker 1: get four or five sacks. Jamal Adams had Cam Newton

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Speaker 1: dead to write, He'll get Dak if that's the case

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Speaker 1: this time. But Cam's I think he's the toughest guy

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Speaker 1: to sack. He's just so big and athletic. Um. I

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01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a tough game. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: I've kind of if you've noticed, I've predicted double digit

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01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,480
Speaker 1: victories the last two games, and I'm two and oh predictions.

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01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: I will not be predicting that this week. The tough

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Speaker 1: Matt Dak's always had a good game, Elliott's had a

1378
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: good game. It's a tough matchup for US, So Russell's

1379
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: gonna have to go off. I think it's gonna be

1380
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: a high scoring game. I think I think Russell has

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01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: to go off, and I think the defense has to

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01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: limit the big plays. Now, the Dallas Cowboys have forty

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01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: one plays this year that result in ten or more

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01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: yards at least NFL. So when it comes to explosive plays,

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01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: these guys have it. So if they're averaging forty one,

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01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: what's the matth you divide that by two twenty something

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01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: in a game? All right, fifteen explosive plays a game

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01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: ten plus yards. I think the Hawks have a chance. Yeah,

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01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: I think. Look, I think we we gotta get him

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Speaker 1: to third down and win. My big thing is always

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01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 1: get him to third down a lot. When the mixdowns.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can have somebody who goes ten for

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Speaker 1: twenty on third down. They go, why do you give

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01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: up fifty percent? Yeah, but I also got off ten times,

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01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: so you win on mixed down. So you go, they

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01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: get to third down, after two plays, they go, they win.

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Speaker 1: They get to third down and two plays they win.

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01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: They get to third down and two point you're off

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Speaker 1: the field. I don't care. So we gotta win on

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Speaker 1: third down and get them there often, and I think

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Speaker 1: we will. That's one thing we've done a lot, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's why we've won games. This is gonna

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01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: be a tough football game. They have so many weapons,

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01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: but so do we. Yeah, I think this is going

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01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: to be the toughest game. I know New England came

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01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: down to the last play, but there was a moment

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: in the game to where you felt that the Hawks

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01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: had an under control. This is gonna be the toughest

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Speaker 1: game to play Arizona, the Rams forty nine ers our

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Speaker 1: division's tough. All right, Hey, well that is Hawks Live.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining. I'm Michael Bump as he's

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Speaker 1: Paul Moyer, Nash and Cholby doing the same. We got

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Speaker 1: Matt back at Bonneville. Hone it down. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: Cody Barton and John Clayton for joining us today. Have

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Speaker 1: a great one. We'll see you next Thursday. Go Hawks.

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