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Speaker 2: Man, what's headening? Who all in here today? Tap? What's headening? Tap?
Speaker 1: We're gonna start it right off with some with some bs.
Speaker 1: Stop squinting still, where's your glasses?
Speaker 3: Oh? And I'm trying to see some man.
Speaker 2: Did he ain't no, don He's going to tell on everybody.
Speaker 3: Tap.
Speaker 2: It ain't nobody you can tell on who we're gonna
Speaker 2: tell on? Tap?
Speaker 1: Who else they want? They don't want nobody else, They
Speaker 1: do not want no nobody else.
Speaker 3: Tap.
Speaker 2: So it ain't nobody for Diddy to tell on.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's gonna work out.
Speaker 2: Shout out to my boy, Jane Sanders. One ten.
Speaker 1: Diddy is the equivalent of a trick on fig leaf
Speaker 1: on fig leaf that won the lottery, crying, oh up.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the homie Anthony Jackson. If he could
Speaker 1: he would tell maybe maybe, but he can't. Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: for him to tell on, So he going down. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody for him to tell on. But again, like my
Speaker 1: rant last week, like my rant last week, was.
Speaker 2: They called it a rant.
Speaker 1: I didn't really feel like it was a rant. I
Speaker 1: didn't really feel like it was a rant. I felt
Speaker 1: like it was just I feel like I don't like
Speaker 1: the fact that everybody is again I'm a double down
Speaker 1: on what we've been talking about. I don't like the
Speaker 1: fact that they're trying to parade Diddy around like he
Speaker 1: John Gotti, Like they caught the most dangerous criminal in
Speaker 1: the world. Like I get it when they called John
Speaker 1: Gotty and they you know, the trial of the century.
Speaker 1: He had beat them three times. You know, they had
Speaker 1: over one hundred people murdered, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like they was selling dope. You know, they had all
Speaker 1: these illegal businesses going. You know, they leaning on unions.
Speaker 1: You know, they just doing their thing, getting their money. Again,
Speaker 1: I say, like, what is Diddy the John Gotty of
Speaker 1: buying pussy? Can you say the P word?
Speaker 3: No? But did it?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: John Gotty of mine vagina? Like what's his criminal enterprise?
Speaker 1: Like like like listen as a Seventh Street still, as
Speaker 1: a Seventh Street nigga. Our thing was selling PCP. That
Speaker 1: was our thing as my gang, our gang was known
Speaker 1: for selling PCP. So that would be the criminal no
Speaker 1: thing that you know that you know, that would be
Speaker 1: the enterprise that funded the community, right, the criminal enterprise.
Speaker 2: But what is his His is buying vagina.
Speaker 3: Well not only that, bro they trying to get him
Speaker 3: for like sex trafficking and all kinds of other stuff too,
Speaker 3: which is kind of bogus in itself. I think what
Speaker 3: it is. I think did he pisted somebody off?
Speaker 2: Sure, sure you may have.
Speaker 3: Did I think did somebody else? Because some of this
Speaker 3: stuff he was kind of bogused. But what they're doing
Speaker 3: is they're trying to say, Okay, he was he was
Speaker 3: taking women, you know, interstate tipping and pan or whatever.
Speaker 3: He was selling drugs, he was doing this and that,
Speaker 3: And it's crazy broke as if they're doing did he
Speaker 3: like that? They could do anybody like that.
Speaker 1: I've been saying this, but I told y'all when we
Speaker 1: let this happen with R. Kelly, Look, R Kelly is
Speaker 1: a perverb. He's a sexual deviant, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He entirely likes sex too much, and he even likes it.
Speaker 1: He don't even care about the female's age. But if
Speaker 1: you liked his songs, or if you listen to his
Speaker 1: songs from the initial point, you would have figured that
Speaker 1: out from the first four or five songs.
Speaker 2: You feel me?
Speaker 1: So again, it was obvious, you I mean, but when
Speaker 1: we allowed the system to hit him with racketeering just
Speaker 1: so they could try to get his man thirty five
Speaker 1: years and you know what I do, blame the general public.
Speaker 2: You know, the last time this happens.
Speaker 1: Still, the last time this happened, our sitting president, right
Speaker 1: was not a sitting president, and he came up with
Speaker 1: a bill that was authored as his bill. It was
Speaker 1: put together as his bill. The three strikes lost still
Speaker 1: where they could say, you did two violent crimes, which
Speaker 1: count as two strikes. If you steal something this third time,
Speaker 1: we could give you the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, now it's a little different, bro.
Speaker 3: It's even more crucial than that, because what they have done,
Speaker 3: in effect, is weaponized the RecA Act. The reco Act
Speaker 3: with designs was supposed to be as a means to
Speaker 3: take down the mafia, deal with organized crime. They treating
Speaker 3: like you said, they treating Pluffy like he's some kind
Speaker 3: of crime lord.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got it, you know, like even then,
Speaker 1: just looking over that law, like the.
Speaker 2: Federal government, you know what I mean again.
Speaker 1: They kind of like lighten their workload don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I think they are one of the most thorough organizations
Speaker 1: when it comes to, you know, prosecuting crimes.
Speaker 2: But they do a lot of things to make their job.
Speaker 1: A little bit easier than let's say the state right
Speaker 1: where before nineteen seventy you had to approve somebody committed
Speaker 1: a crime. What happened with the Rico Act in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy was it was a way for them to catch
Speaker 1: crime lords, mob bosses, mafia, mafia, you know, mafia, the
Speaker 1: leaders of mafia who didn't commit crime that they could
Speaker 1: never see doing a crime, so they couldn't get that person,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So they created that for that.
Speaker 1: And that's a bit lazy already. You know what I'm saying, like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't got to catch you doing a crime, right,
Speaker 1: I don't got to catch you doing a crime. But
Speaker 1: because you are a part of a crime, or these
Speaker 1: people say you are deciding what's a crime, here you go,
Speaker 1: this is the charge we're gonna give you.
Speaker 3: Well that's that's law enforcement, period, bro. Even when you
Speaker 3: start talking about conspiracy, yeah, you don't. Never you don't
Speaker 3: have to actually catch nobody doing nothing wrong, or you
Speaker 3: need is too rests to say that somebody was doing something.
Speaker 3: If we get if they get two or three people say, oh,
Speaker 3: glasses Malone is doing the selling keys. You selling keys,
Speaker 3: you can get arrested behind that.
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Speaker 1: and Friday at noon. So I just I've been waiting
Speaker 1: on somebody to explain the racketeering part again. That's what
Speaker 1: my rent was on the last podcast. Where's the racketeering?
Speaker 1: That's profit game, that's for profit, commercial profit. Diddy is
Speaker 1: not selling women for commercial profit. You couldn't pay for
Speaker 1: what Diddy is doing. I thought, maybe, okay, maybe he's
Speaker 1: using the footage from the house to extort people that
Speaker 1: comes to his parties.
Speaker 2: It's freak offs, right.
Speaker 1: Maybe if he explored them, that would make sense for racketeering,
Speaker 1: But the rest of it don't make sense.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the whole meaning behind racketeering is if
Speaker 3: you're making money off of this signers or a legal activity, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I think what they're saying is Diddy was kind
Speaker 3: of putting these women off on other people. I don't
Speaker 3: know if Diddy was necessarily profit enough of exactly know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was actually somewhere just like
Speaker 3: you know, a pimp, sit somewhere in the corner, collecting
Speaker 3: this stretch while his bras went to work or whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it seemed like he, just like
Speaker 3: I said, he picked somebody off once he got to
Speaker 3: talking about them white folks.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It was a rep, a really dope attorney. He's on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how good he is in the courtroom,
Speaker 1: but a really you know, he has a good social presence.
Speaker 1: He talked about the fact that it all started with Cassie,
Speaker 1: when Cassie came out and her and her legal team
Speaker 1: try to extort Diddy, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: I know this is kind of a crazy word to use,
Speaker 1: because Cassie was the obviously to some degree she suffered
Speaker 1: some spousal abuse. I don't know if she started to
Speaker 1: fight but she lost the fight. If it was a
Speaker 1: fight she lost. Obviously, we saw the hotel footage, right,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to jump to either conclusion. I
Speaker 1: know I saw a video where Puff was kicking the
Speaker 1: shit out of her, right, so let's start there. So
Speaker 1: I know that she lost some fights, but she was
Speaker 1: going to put out a tell all book. And they
Speaker 1: go to Diddy and Diddy's team and say, hey, you
Speaker 1: know this book right here is going to make you
Speaker 1: look real crazy in public. We want to sell it
Speaker 1: to you. You know, it could just be yours for
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. If not, we're going to release the
Speaker 1: book and that's it. And Diddy's team shrugged it off. Nope,
Speaker 1: we're not doing it. We're not doing it. We're not
Speaker 1: messing with that. Shout out the DJ head, Devin cup Moore,
Speaker 1: Genie Santa's Anthony Jackson, appreciate y'all being with us. Make
Speaker 1: sure you hit them comments so I can shout you out.
Speaker 1: Thank y'all for showing us some love. So Diddy's team
Speaker 1: denied him, right, Diddy's team denied a Cassie and Cassie's
Speaker 1: team and they said, oh, you know what, there's an
Speaker 1: opportunity to bring a legal suit. Because of that law,
Speaker 1: that late blooming law that they had in New York
Speaker 1: for a while, and she went and fouled civil shit
Speaker 1: and she put things out of the book into the
Speaker 1: civil case. That opened the door for the Feds to
Speaker 1: look at Diddy and be like, oh, this is a
Speaker 1: high profile thing.
Speaker 2: Let's get it, you know, man, look at all of
Speaker 2: these accusations.
Speaker 1: Let's investigate, right And they investigated and felt that they
Speaker 1: could bring a case together.
Speaker 2: You mean, they could bring a case together on and
Speaker 2: it's like, gee.
Speaker 3: They got the man for sex, trafficking, forest labor, kidnapping, arson, bribery,
Speaker 3: destruction of justice. So they got him on a number
Speaker 3: of things. But I don't know if it necessarily is
Speaker 3: a recocase though, that's.
Speaker 2: The thing they got, any racketeering.
Speaker 3: If they put the man in jail. Let's say they
Speaker 3: just arrested Diddy, that would be one thing right now,
Speaker 3: But they got him for racketeering. I don't know what
Speaker 3: a racketeering is at I don't see.
Speaker 2: I think we was talking about this earlier.
Speaker 1: If you think about it like this, like if they say, look,
Speaker 1: man Glass has got friends that will do anything for him.
Speaker 2: He had that person beat up. He had that person shot.
Speaker 1: He used to sell sharp and they put my criminal
Speaker 1: pass on display, and then I have an organization of
Speaker 1: people around me and they just bring it together, like
Speaker 1: I know, the case of the arson cases, the kidnapping cases.
Speaker 1: That's him dragging her back, because if you drag somebody
Speaker 1: so many feet and you have a videos.
Speaker 3: Though, Bro, this thing's just about Cassie, But it really
Speaker 3: is not really, Bro. He got him on the number
Speaker 3: of things. It ain't just about the case. They would
Speaker 3: the rest of them back then.
Speaker 2: That's not true. It really is about.
Speaker 3: That Cashley is just one of many people. Now. Now,
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna sit up here and think this dude
Speaker 3: is alter boy either. Though.
Speaker 1: It ain't about altar boy. I'm telling you where the
Speaker 1: kidnapping charge come. The kidnapping charge come. If you drag
Speaker 1: somebody three feet back in the direction they wasn't going,
Speaker 1: that's kidnapping. They're not building the case. They didn't start
Speaker 1: building this case ten years ago. This ain't like the
Speaker 1: normal case, the federal case. You see when we was
Speaker 1: younger and they watched the d boy in the community,
Speaker 1: You feel.
Speaker 3: Me, Now, what's the other caid that got the this
Speaker 3: following the civil suit on him.
Speaker 2: The man Rod Little Rod.
Speaker 3: Lara Larad said that he had somebody over there that
Speaker 3: did he was touching his.
Speaker 1: Antes again he's They said, why not charge him for
Speaker 1: Why not charge him for false touching? Like I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: this all breaks down into what the fac The fads
Speaker 1: are organization like the Fifth Government.
Speaker 3: They usually don't put noriko on you, g unless they
Speaker 3: know they can win it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but to win it don't mean that you actually
Speaker 1: have to be guilty of the spirit of the law.
Speaker 1: It's just the letter this is all about. First off,
Speaker 1: the fact that they parading did he around like he's
Speaker 1: Gotti is a fucking disingenuous thing in the first place.
Speaker 1: Thirty years ago that office was taken down John Gotti.
Speaker 1: Thirty years later, you taking down Diddy. You didn't get
Speaker 1: a thousand murders, You got a thousand bottles of loose
Speaker 1: Like what's happening? Like this man should be dealing with
Speaker 1: regular charges for the crimes he committed. He's not no
Speaker 1: racketeering and he definitely ain't no real sex trafficker by
Speaker 1: the spirit of that law.
Speaker 2: Now, the letter can make you do anything all I want.
Speaker 2: For black people still in America is to be charged fairly.
Speaker 1: They didn't charge They didn't charge Jeffrey Epstein with racketeering.
Speaker 2: They charged him with trafficking miners.
Speaker 3: What a moment did he put them women on the airplane? Dude,
Speaker 3: took them to coast or whatever he did. That's when
Speaker 3: they were That's where they could come at him with
Speaker 3: the bs that they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's stupid.
Speaker 1: That's not what that law means, even if the letter
Speaker 1: is a certain way, if that was the case, they
Speaker 1: be arresting people every week.
Speaker 3: We know that. We know that them people can do.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 1: It ain't like they can't catch nobody. Everybody know. That's
Speaker 1: stupid as hell. That ain't the solicitation of prostitution.
Speaker 3: And they are going to get away with it because
Speaker 3: we keep along on it.
Speaker 1: Well, they gonna get away with it because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm the only person making sense.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not like they sit them. They're gonna say, well,
Speaker 3: who are you mister mister pennymin.
Speaker 2: No, I can't talk to the federal the federal government.
Speaker 1: My mom died in prison and probably ask some you know,
Speaker 1: probably at a lack of care, like this is a
Speaker 1: real thing they getting sued. Dublin is getting sued in
Speaker 1: California for how they treat people. They just closed it
Speaker 1: down because they was mistreating the prisoners, sleeping with them,
Speaker 1: not getting them the right health care and all this.
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying something still that I don't personally know,
Speaker 1: but I also understand that it's important to charge human
Speaker 1: beings for their crimes.
Speaker 2: When you trumpet up.
Speaker 1: To make yourself look like you're like whoever the lead
Speaker 1: a federal prosecutor on the case is this is all
Speaker 1: a trump up to make him look special. This is
Speaker 1: considered to be the trial of the decade against a
Speaker 1: person who has sex off and had a thousand bottles
Speaker 1: of lou It's not one hundred murders. They don't have
Speaker 1: a Sami the Bull in court testifying who murdered nineteen
Speaker 1: people personally and organized forty some murders.
Speaker 2: They have somebody in the court that's saying he bought prostitutes.
Speaker 3: Well, what they're saying, gee, from what I've been reading,
Speaker 3: this is just what I've been reading. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not privy, of course, but they're saying a lot
Speaker 3: of this stuff has to do with that little Rod guy.
Speaker 1: They don't have nothing to do with Little Rod because
Speaker 1: you can't prove that federally. Still, they wouldn't. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you why they wouldn't take.
Speaker 2: That serious federally. They couldn't prove it. It'll be against
Speaker 2: them against Puff against Little Rod hold On.
Speaker 3: He had a lot of that stuff on He had
Speaker 3: a lot of that stuff on camera.
Speaker 2: Bro, No we don't.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, bro, why do you do it? I'm
Speaker 3: still to tell you this stuff like, I don't care
Speaker 3: what I'm telling you. Why I don't have it on camera?
Speaker 2: This is this is Listen. I bet you money I
Speaker 2: never read it, and I'm gonna bet you money that.
Speaker 1: The casting you tell me what I read because because
Speaker 1: in my life I was ten.
Speaker 3: Go to jail. He's still sitting up in there.
Speaker 1: Because the fast being in my life is ten. I'm
Speaker 1: not reading no ship that nobody.
Speaker 2: Wrote to me.
Speaker 3: Oh so you just know you just go.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had to deal with a lot of time.
Speaker 3: I know what's going on some Yeah, I'm telling you
Speaker 3: what I saw.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you didn't see the video.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you what I did see. I did see
Speaker 3: the man hugged that with somebody. I didn't say I
Speaker 3: saw them. I saw the video, but I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You saw nothing but whatever the fast told you, and
Speaker 1: of course white justice.
Speaker 3: Is I'm telling you that this man.
Speaker 1: Has I don't care what they said. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: what they charged me with, and I'm telling you what
Speaker 1: it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: All right, mister whipping, I have.
Speaker 5: A theory on this, and I heard it from that
Speaker 5: Secret Service podcast this morning, and he's pretty as student.
Speaker 5: Worked in that field a long time, doing a lot
Speaker 5: of investigatory shit at the federal level, cooperatively with NYPDA.
Speaker 5: Have to beyond on this other shit. Every presidential cycle,
Speaker 5: there's an October surprise, right, this is timed such that,
Speaker 5: and he was saying, this is designed for Diddy to
Speaker 5: plead because they went through and got all this. Remember
Speaker 5: they got all those servers and all that hardware and
Speaker 5: all that crap a while back, so they get all
Speaker 5: the shit, sort through it, then they make the charges.
Speaker 5: They're trying to throw a bunch of shit at him
Speaker 5: to for the other people that were participating. Somebody in
Speaker 5: the other people group they want their ass. And here's
Speaker 5: my prediction. The October surprise is they're going to quote
Speaker 5: strategically leak that with that vague bullshit kind of language,
Speaker 5: that Donald Trump was around the freak offs and da
Speaker 5: da da D d D and blah blah blah. He
Speaker 5: was at the property and he was, you know, could
Speaker 5: have been involved, was in the vicinity all that other ship.
Speaker 5: And then after the election they'll dismiss it. But he'll
Speaker 5: plead to the fact that Donald Trump was there and
Speaker 5: he doesn't know for sure if he was involved, but
Speaker 5: he was there of the property, in the vicinity, by
Speaker 5: the house, through the rooms and et cetera. That's my prediction.
Speaker 5: They got a heart out for that guy this election.
Speaker 1: Listen, man, all that's cute and that probably could happen
Speaker 1: to Peke. Forgive me, I'm not talking to you. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to Steve. My homie said something to me this morning, right.
Speaker 3: It was deep.
Speaker 1: He sent it to me and DM is a rapper.
Speaker 1: Hold On, let me read the actual thing that he said.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was really interesting because I think
Speaker 1: this is true. Where is it at he was talking about?
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me see if I can find it.
Speaker 1: I can't find it. Way was he was explaining how
Speaker 1: people how black people really look at like they trust
Speaker 1: white justice.
Speaker 2: That's what you're doing still right now.
Speaker 3: Gee, hold on, you got you know what, you got
Speaker 3: a bad habit of doing, bro, I'm telling you what
Speaker 3: the people are saying. You putting this on me as
Speaker 3: a personal thing. I don't give a shit what's going
Speaker 3: on with Diddy right now, I'm telling you what these
Speaker 3: people are saying. I'm not saying this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that this is what they are saying in
Speaker 3: these documents.
Speaker 2: Well, I care about I care about what's happening with Ditty.
Speaker 2: That makes us different.
Speaker 3: We hold on, but can we do it? Boy it?
Speaker 3: Seeing me along with that.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I'm not on here making content. Y'all
Speaker 1: think I come here to make content with you to
Speaker 1: make some money. I'm coming here because something stuff is
Speaker 1: filling up my mind and I need a way to
Speaker 1: do it. Even when I'm marketing my podcast, I'm still
Speaker 1: talking about my intellectual property. I'm not up here playing
Speaker 1: whatever you going to do it? Boy it, I'm doing
Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to do now. I'm disseminating the true,
Speaker 1: honest information with real intent.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm giving you, I'm giving you information that this
Speaker 3: is what's in these documents.
Speaker 1: You tell me I didn't see what I saw. No,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. You telling me what the white man
Speaker 1: told you. And I'm telling you, I bet you money
Speaker 1: right now that they're gonna charge him. The kidnapping is
Speaker 1: about Cassie dragging him back. I can go through pretty
Speaker 1: much how they're doing it because they the Feds are
Speaker 1: only going to use what they can prove.
Speaker 3: GI. I'm gonna tell you this, America has been rare
Speaker 3: road and black men for the longest.
Speaker 1: And the fact that you're comfortable with it still right now,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying you had like this is a surprise,
Speaker 1: like this is. I'm telling you every last single time. Still,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be upset. We're supposed to even be
Speaker 1: more outraged.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm asking you, wish your solution. What do
Speaker 3: we want to do about it?
Speaker 1: Well, first, we got to stop acting like white justice
Speaker 1: is the way that it works, or that they who.
Speaker 3: Said that I ever said that. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: You're talking about Rod. I'm like, Rod don't got no
Speaker 2: videos and nothing happening to him.
Speaker 3: Oh no, he does have some video. That's what they're
Speaker 3: saying they're.
Speaker 1: Saying, wow, I have video, but he don't got no
Speaker 1: videos and nothing happening to him.
Speaker 5: I don't know what does what are the videos of?
Speaker 5: Like I thought there was videos of, like did he's
Speaker 5: son bopping somebody or something like that. I don't know what's.
Speaker 3: They're seeing. He has video, and I don't know what
Speaker 3: this got to do with anything. They're saying, he has
Speaker 3: a video of the what's the guy Stevie j Gout
Speaker 3: having sexual engaged in the sexual act with some white
Speaker 3: man and then he has some other some other nonsense
Speaker 3: or whatever. Then he's saying that did he let the
Speaker 3: one told told him to allow the one man to
Speaker 3: touch him on his anis? Whatever that is?
Speaker 1: So if he told you that and you let somebody
Speaker 1: do it, because did he told you that you was
Speaker 1: a fucking weirdough?
Speaker 5: Did he told me? None of these people listen.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if did he told me let somebody
Speaker 1: touch me on my anis, I'll be fighting him and
Speaker 1: the person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know that, but they're going to use all
Speaker 3: that to railroad this guy.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: That's my point, the key term railroad. It's not fair treatment.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you the problem and The reason it's
Speaker 1: not fair treatment is because soon as black people, you know,
Speaker 1: see somebody being messed up, right, like morally, Like how
Speaker 1: the federal prosecutor kept using the term freak off. He
Speaker 1: was that term probably forty times freak off. Why are
Speaker 1: we talking about who.
Speaker 2: This man sleeping with? Any of that? That don't even matter.
Speaker 2: Did he take the vagina?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: What they said, Well, you know by Coergon, he said
Speaker 1: if they didn't perform up the standards, you know, he
Speaker 1: would fight them because he paid them. I gotta keep
Speaker 1: saying I would fight the man at Burger King if
Speaker 1: I told him extra mayo, my damn wopper and even
Speaker 1: put it on there.
Speaker 2: I just told you how I want my burger.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna tell you, bro, all of this stuff
Speaker 3: is rooted in racism, right, I'm gonna tell you a
Speaker 3: story I cook from one of the most racist things.
Speaker 3: I remember my pops had a white girlfriend, right. I
Speaker 3: remember driving. I was a little kid at this time.
Speaker 3: I remember the police pulling her over, right, And I
Speaker 3: remember them taking my pops off the car, hit hitting
Speaker 3: them with the billy club for no reason, and taking
Speaker 3: them off from the side of the road. And I
Speaker 3: remember the way that made me feel. This has been
Speaker 3: going on for a long time, bro. So unless we
Speaker 3: go institute some real change and go out there and
Speaker 3: really tear up some stuff like the stuff that people
Speaker 3: should be riding the protesting over, they don't never do it.
Speaker 1: My niece shout out to my knees DJ and they
Speaker 1: she said, make better choices. Shout out the pac Man
Speaker 1: and the Chat money Hungry recordings, Jerald Jones, I see
Speaker 1: y'all with us trap karma once again.
Speaker 2: You back.
Speaker 1: I see you player, make better choices. Yes, he probably
Speaker 1: should not be having freak offs. I definitely would say
Speaker 1: there could be a better choice, But who am I?
Speaker 1: I would tell y'all don't drink alcohol. I would tell
Speaker 1: y'all stop smoking tobacco. You know how many things I
Speaker 1: could tell you to make a better choice about your
Speaker 1: life minus the legal ramifications.
Speaker 2: If your only.
Speaker 1: Fear is just white justice, legal ramifications, if that's the
Speaker 1: basis of how you live your life. America has such
Speaker 1: a poor moral system. Legally is scary. Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's thirty two states in the Union that the legal age.
Speaker 1: You can send a sixteen, so you could be twenty
Speaker 1: six and go to Nevada and sleep with somebody to
Speaker 1: meet a girl at somewhere and she's sixteen and that's legal,
Speaker 1: but morally you should be past that. So I think
Speaker 1: we need to find a better sense, a better sense
Speaker 1: of morals, and even if the choices are bad, people
Speaker 1: still shouldn't be mistreated.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 1: Listen, it's like when the police. Okay, like, what happened
Speaker 1: with the football player? What's the football player name?
Speaker 2: Hell? Hell, Tyreek Hill?
Speaker 5: I forgot it last time.
Speaker 1: Yep, so Tyreek Hill right now, Tyreek Hill? Act than
Speaker 1: the food and doing all that, rah rah right, y'all
Speaker 1: are talking shit. Y'all don't care about the crime of
Speaker 1: him speeding. Y'all don't care about the crime of him
Speaker 1: being a dick, I mean, and talking crazy and showing
Speaker 1: off the police. You felt like the police went too far. Well,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing for Diddy. The police, the government
Speaker 1: is going too far.
Speaker 5: The speeding part was the only part I cared about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you know, it don't matter. His nigga was
Speaker 2: going one hundred and like a forty or fifty or something.
Speaker 3: Kim me.
Speaker 5: And I'm so you don't.
Speaker 1: Understand why the police is mad because he's talking crazy,
Speaker 1: But you get why the police is mad. Even sex
Speaker 1: laws though, like right, niece, Like that's the thing. Sex
Speaker 1: laws are tricky, true, people weaponize so sex so much
Speaker 1: then pick and choose winning how to police it. But
Speaker 1: that's because we're living in a time where it really
Speaker 1: cannot exist correctly.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: The only people who complained about who was that guy
Speaker 5: Weinstein with people didn't get the rolls. Nobody fucking one
Speaker 5: of oscars out there fucking complaining real loud. If anything,
Speaker 5: They're like on you too, then like went back to bed.
Speaker 1: Kimberly, Joy, you sound ridiculous. Let it happen to your daughter.
Speaker 1: If my daughter is selling pussy, I'm sure Kimberly, that
Speaker 1: probably is gonna happen to her.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 1: The thing that shouldn't happen to my daughter. My daughter
Speaker 1: shouldn't be selling vagina. You gotta stop, get stopped acting
Speaker 1: like people don't have accountability. Like I get it. I know,
Speaker 1: we created a space in America where women have zero accountability.
Speaker 2: But this is getting out of hand. This is getting
Speaker 2: out of hand.
Speaker 5: If your daughter is a prostitute like that, whatever the
Speaker 5: fuck could possibly happen to her has already happened to
Speaker 5: her before she got to Diddy's place. Twenty times. Yeah,
Speaker 5: she's I'm sure being robbed, beaten. I don't know if
Speaker 5: you can call it what you paid for it, but
Speaker 5: I'm sure all of those things have already happened there.
Speaker 3: Answer me this, Peter. Okay, Okay, so you got when
Speaker 3: in the evening up there prostitutes. What if he was
Speaker 3: spiking their drinks with stuff? What if he was spiking
Speaker 3: people's drinks list.
Speaker 1: Everybody that goes to Diddy's parties knows the drinks are spiked.
Speaker 2: This is somebody you.
Speaker 3: Don't geez. Okay, let me give you this. You're a
Speaker 3: guy that doesn't drink, right, you don't drink, you don't smoke,
Speaker 3: you don't do no drugs. Right. Let's say he gives
Speaker 3: you a Ginger real and he got some stuff in it,
Speaker 3: and point bro, let me talk, Let me talk. I've
Speaker 3: been being quiet. Let's say you drink your Ginger Reel
Speaker 3: and you wake up the next day and you're on
Speaker 3: a couch somewhere, you like, man, what happened? You're not
Speaker 3: gonna be pissed off. Bro, You're not gonna want to
Speaker 3: have this man's.
Speaker 1: Head did he ain't never waking up again? What are
Speaker 1: you talking about?
Speaker 3: But what if you can get.
Speaker 5: That's a Cosby case and not a.
Speaker 2: It's still a Cosby case.
Speaker 5: I don't see how that's a reco Okay, there's a
Speaker 5: thing in that, Like in the drafting of the Constitution
Speaker 5: and through the Magna Carta, through British common law, they
Speaker 5: were trying to not have the equivalent of what's called
Speaker 5: the general warrant, where you just have a cart blosh
Speaker 5: search on a guy. Look that guy, I don't like
Speaker 5: that guy. Go through his whole life and find some
Speaker 5: law he broke. You have to investigate the crime, not
Speaker 5: the criminal. All rico it has turned into in the
Speaker 5: last probably after a year two of its existence, is
Speaker 5: just another pseudonym for general warrant. Find somebody that's got
Speaker 5: some sort of a gripe with somebody, go to what
Speaker 5: do you call it? A grand jury? Get some vague warrant.
Speaker 5: Go search through all their ships, deal all their data,
Speaker 5: do all their crap, find something they're doing, change and
Speaker 5: manipulate the definition of a lot to fit that activity exactly.
Speaker 5: And there you have it. Now it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 5: even if he didn't do it. He was proximal to
Speaker 5: it's having been done, so.
Speaker 4: Therefore he's criminally liable for blank by vertue of the
Speaker 4: redefinition of the word x to fit the purpose of why.
Speaker 4: And thirty years later, you're eighty years old coming out
Speaker 4: of prison with seventeen kinds of cancer.
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Speaker 1: the numbers is up on the post, so that's dope.
Speaker 1: But again, this is about real conversation. I'm not just
Speaker 1: gonna say anything for no views and clicks. I don't
Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate. I don't advocate for Satan. This is
Speaker 1: genuinely a perspective. I don't believe that d he is
Speaker 1: totally innocent of charges. I know for sure he's not
Speaker 1: a racketeerer, and I know for sure by the spirit
Speaker 1: of the trafficking law that was created to stop people
Speaker 1: from selling children into prostitution. He's not he doesn't fit
Speaker 1: the spirit of that law. Sure, the letter could be
Speaker 1: as lame as oh, if you fly a prostitute from
Speaker 1: Florida to California, you feel me okay that you can't legal?
Speaker 5: You can't traffic somebody on the buyer side. You can't.
Speaker 5: It's impossible. You're either communicating with a pimp who posts
Speaker 5: her picture who then traffics her for the money, or
Speaker 5: she put it up. You make her an offer and
Speaker 5: she goes to get the money. You cannot traffic on
Speaker 5: the buyer side. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Julius who just popped in. So you're
Speaker 1: okay with that? That's just okay, okay, okay, we're.
Speaker 5: Not okay with that act?
Speaker 2: What am I not? What am I not okay with? First?
Speaker 2: Let me tell you so I can make sure because
Speaker 2: I might be a okay with that.
Speaker 1: And that's true. Chillion dollar guys. All the evidence hasn't
Speaker 1: even been presented. Totally agreed, and I will wait for it.
Speaker 1: But right now you need to show me. He is
Speaker 1: John Gotti. He is a racket tier. Yeah, he's a racket.
Speaker 1: He's a he runs a racket.
Speaker 2: Racket.
Speaker 5: He created racket rack because.
Speaker 2: That ship should be fucking illegal. That's his racket.
Speaker 5: Yes, great based vodka is highly acidic and very overpriced,
Speaker 5: and it's bullshit.
Speaker 3: With the cussing. But let me tell you. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you what happened. You mentioned the key words of rock.
Speaker 3: When did he get to talk him crazy about those
Speaker 3: folks again? They made sure that they show him what
Speaker 3: time it was.
Speaker 5: Can I can I pull it, Julie, this thing real quick, Julius.
Speaker 1: Same way you're questioning why people are okay with the
Speaker 1: judicious is how we should question why spiking drinks is okay?
Speaker 2: Wrong is wrong?
Speaker 5: Okay? Here, here's right here where glasses and I are
Speaker 5: on this. If you have the evidence that he spiked
Speaker 5: somebody's drink and date raped them, then given evidence for
Speaker 5: criminal referral to the appropriate local jurisdiction to have state
Speaker 5: charges for that crime, not we think maybe it happened.
Speaker 5: There's rumors. We don't have any evidence, so we're going
Speaker 5: to say he created an environment in which he could
Speaker 5: have been proximal to this happening, but we don't know.
Speaker 5: So we're gonna say he conspired to do something that
Speaker 5: we can't prove happening. That's slippery slope justice and it's
Speaker 5: dangerous to everybody. Yes, that's the point. And that's them
Speaker 5: saying spike talk him and rape him. That's not no
Speaker 5: one's saying that.
Speaker 1: Being the most American thing you could do. Julius is
Speaker 1: not trust the system. That's the reason why the forefathers
Speaker 1: of this country created it the way they did. But somehow,
Speaker 1: you motherfucker you people trust this system.
Speaker 5: That's the problem, because they vote for outcomes of the system.
Speaker 3: Gee.
Speaker 5: I don't think it so much as people outcomes.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's so much as trusting the system.
Speaker 3: Like someone said earlier, you have to make better choices.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 3: Did he do wrong? Yes? Absolutely, he absolutely has committed
Speaker 3: some crimes. Right, he's done wrong. Is it a recal charge?
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't think so. I don't
Speaker 3: believe so. But but this whole thing is turned into
Speaker 3: g Do you remember how they used to break bucks
Speaker 3: in slavery, Right, if you had an incident in slavery,
Speaker 3: they would take you to the whooping pole and put
Speaker 3: you in front of all the people. They would take
Speaker 3: the biggest, baddest dude and put them up on a
Speaker 3: whooping pole and whoop his ass front everybody to show
Speaker 3: him this is what happens when you step by the line.
Speaker 3: This is what this is. Right now, he's getting whooped, bro.
Speaker 1: Daniel Waters is still cooking. Gee, if Young Miami is
Speaker 1: providing women and flying him out to be assault that
Speaker 1: is sex racketeering ring, Brother.
Speaker 5: Ross or cute Young Miami because she's the one getting
Speaker 5: the women in movie.
Speaker 1: Hold on, they're not flying them out to be assaulted.
Speaker 1: They're flying strippers and prostitutes out for sex. This is
Speaker 1: how they make their money. Daniel, So no, that's not
Speaker 1: the sex racketeering ring.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe he taking did he take an advantage of them?
Speaker 2: What do you mean he can only pay for sex?
Speaker 3: Me playing Devil's advocate, he's probably taking advantage of those girls,
Speaker 3: and he's probably forced some women who.
Speaker 5: Were taking advantage of Please stop stop being silly.
Speaker 2: He's paying prostitutes.
Speaker 5: Can you just tell me what taking advantage of someone
Speaker 5: that you're paying for sex looks like?
Speaker 3: If I hold on, don't twist my words. If I'm
Speaker 3: not talking about the women.
Speaker 2: You just advocated for Satans.
Speaker 1: No, just advocated for Satan and now you're talking his
Speaker 1: other bs.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, No, no, what I said it was this bro.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's women that was at those parties that wasn't
Speaker 3: with all that stuff. Next thing you know, they.
Speaker 2: Get cutting me off.
Speaker 3: Can I finish? Okay, A woman is at that party
Speaker 3: who's not a prostitute's not a hooker. He puts something
Speaker 3: in their drinks. She'd wake up the next day knowing
Speaker 3: she's been violated, and they tell her if you go
Speaker 3: say something to somebody, we have you on tape doing
Speaker 3: this and doing that. Now, she wouldn't herself when she
Speaker 3: was doing all this and that that he was wrong.
Speaker 5: Bro, All the more easy it is to charge you
Speaker 5: to go to I had a roommate like, well, I
Speaker 5: don't know I told a story before or not. There
Speaker 5: was a roommate who used to live with me for
Speaker 5: about eight months. She said that she got drugged and
Speaker 5: date raped, leaving I forgot what That club was on
Speaker 5: Santa Monica Boulevard over there where people had like all
Speaker 5: the ivy on the outside. Remember that spot they had
Speaker 5: like a Sunday Saturday night. Yeah, that's joint. A certain
Speaker 5: basketball player who played for the Lakers and the Wizards
Speaker 5: and the Warriors, et cetera, and possibly to usc I'm
Speaker 5: not going to mention any names.
Speaker 3: You see what he is now.
Speaker 5: So at that point in time, she was saying that
Speaker 5: she had been date raped by this person. She filed
Speaker 5: a civil suit. She was taking all of that course
Speaker 5: of action. They didn't run a Rico because it was
Speaker 5: sort of obscure as to whether him, his best friend
Speaker 5: or one of the other few people that they were
Speaker 5: there with that left with this girl did it or not.
Speaker 5: We can't prove who exactly did what, So we're going
Speaker 5: to Rico. The guy who paid for the table at
Speaker 5: the club.
Speaker 3: Is point.
Speaker 5: Do you see what I'm saying, Julie paid for the
Speaker 5: table in the bottle.
Speaker 2: Julius.
Speaker 1: Problem is, we are litigating charges in the court of
Speaker 1: public opinion without the hard evidence, because they made it
Speaker 1: a fight in the court of public opinion. When you
Speaker 1: have a press conference and you mentioned st times he
Speaker 1: had freak alls to start playing mo rallity games. Most
Speaker 1: of these cases are now one in the court of
Speaker 1: public opinion. R Kelly's case was one in the court
Speaker 1: of public opinion. Most cases are like it's the reason
Speaker 1: they do this.
Speaker 5: Julius legal because it's polluting, the whole polluting.
Speaker 3: You told me this glass is. The interesting thing about
Speaker 3: r Kelly is that he didn't even go to jail
Speaker 3: about the girls being her age. She went to jail
Speaker 3: behind the grown woman.
Speaker 2: No, he went to jail for racketeering.
Speaker 1: Like, come on, how are we missing this?
Speaker 5: Missing this?
Speaker 3: It's the whooping pole, bro, it's the new whopping pole.
Speaker 1: So you be cool. You should be like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is yo? Pray even do nothing, bro,
Speaker 1: Take him off the whipping pole. Put him in the basement.
Speaker 1: Why is he getting the worst treatment? Listen, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying treating. With all respect to you, queen, I am
Speaker 1: not saying R. Kelly was not guilty.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 1: He's not guilty of trillion dollar goddess racketeering. You know what,
Speaker 1: he's not guilty of trillion dollar goddess, the spirit of
Speaker 1: the sex trafficking law. He was guilty of child pornography
Speaker 1: as a fan of federal statute carry seven years.
Speaker 2: He was not guilty of the Man Act.
Speaker 1: The Manac is the biggest piece of shit and systemic
Speaker 1: oppressive law used in the last hundred years, probably one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty years. They charged Jack Johnson with the
Speaker 1: Man Act, the same thing they charged L. R.
Speaker 2: Kelly with because he took a white.
Speaker 1: Woman across state lines to have sex with her. That's
Speaker 1: the man ac They brought it back on R Kelly.
Speaker 1: Y'all gotta look at the charges. Stop just thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: Puffy is guilty. Whatever they said he did, he did,
Speaker 1: that's not true. Like we gotta charge black men, especially
Speaker 1: our successful ones or even the poorest ones.
Speaker 2: All I'm asking is charged people with the right crimes.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: While we talking about you know what I'm saying, Oh, well,
Speaker 1: R Kelly is guilt.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: R Kelly was guilty of child pornography. That's what he
Speaker 2: is guilty of.
Speaker 1: He's not guilty of rat he's not guilty of racketeering,
Speaker 1: he's not guilty of sex trafficking. And he's not guilty
Speaker 1: of no dumb ass Man Act. That is stupid. Why
Speaker 1: is that even still a law?
Speaker 3: That is what they got Jack Johnson would do.
Speaker 5: The federal jurisdiction has in a lot of cases turned
Speaker 5: into purely either a double jeopardy safety net or a
Speaker 5: just plain lazy, negligent safety net. A lot of this
Speaker 5: stuff happens, and it's from years ago right where the
Speaker 5: local law enforcement either didn't act, didn't act right, didn't
Speaker 5: have to act together, or a district attorney didn't want
Speaker 5: to do it, didn't want to deal with the issues,
Speaker 5: didn't didn't want to you know, be out there like
Speaker 5: that or whatever the hell. So then they years after
Speaker 5: the fact, when that's coming gone, now the federal government
Speaker 5: will step in and say, oh, yeah, well, this thing,
Speaker 5: you know technically in our jurisdiction, and you don't have
Speaker 5: to actually do it, you just have to kind of
Speaker 5: sort of been around it, and we'll and we'll take
Speaker 5: you in on it. Because they fucked up.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this question right here, both of y'all,
Speaker 3: this is both of y'all. Do you think that Puffy
Speaker 3: is gonna take those thousands bottles of baby oil in
Speaker 3: jail with them?
Speaker 2: Terrell Terrell V.
Speaker 1: They went after the most positive celebrity, Bill Cosby, to
Speaker 1: justify the younger generation toxic actions. No, they went out
Speaker 1: to deal Cobby because he liked unconscious vagina and that's
Speaker 1: how you should be charged. You know what you did this,
Speaker 1: we got it. Now here you go. You take this
Speaker 1: time gone do your thing that they got.
Speaker 5: Him on kwailud racketeering, so they.
Speaker 1: Got they didn't charge him with racketeering, like bro, charge
Speaker 1: people with their actual crimes. Stop trying to make this
Speaker 1: a big You're not the fact that y'all are convinced
Speaker 1: that Puffy is some kind of real crime lord and
Speaker 1: they cleaning.
Speaker 2: Up the street. Puffy ain't shit. Excuse me, I can't
Speaker 2: say that over here. Puffy ain't jack.
Speaker 3: You already said it, Bro, You might well keep going.
Speaker 1: Why they don't even let use profanity on YouTube in
Speaker 1: the first place.
Speaker 5: The point I'm sting.
Speaker 2: Is charge the man for the crime.
Speaker 1: If you said he drugs some some unwilling person, charging
Speaker 1: for it. If you say he you know, obviously it's
Speaker 1: a video of him kicking the shit out of Cassie,
Speaker 1: charge him for it.
Speaker 2: If you say that he blew up kid cut his car.
Speaker 1: That's how the arson charges got there, charging for it.
Speaker 1: If you say he pulled her three feet back, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You want to charge that claim
Speaker 1: that it's kidnapping, charging for it. But what is the
Speaker 1: racketeering of sex trafficking? He was paying all of these people,
Speaker 1: He was paying for them. They wasn't He wasn't making
Speaker 1: no money. He didn't charge money to get into his
Speaker 1: free costs. It wasn't like you had to be a membership.
Speaker 1: They made it like he was running a brotho. That
Speaker 1: wasn't a brotho that was free.
Speaker 5: The only way that to me, this has this could
Speaker 5: fit the racketeering bill is if it comes to light
Speaker 5: that it was bringing all these big wigs into his place,
Speaker 5: do all this nasty shit, and then post facto blackmailing
Speaker 5: them into strategic business dealings. Shut me, that's what happened, then,
Speaker 5: that's what I'll shut up.
Speaker 1: If if he using the footage to blackmail people into
Speaker 1: better business deals.
Speaker 5: I'll shut up.
Speaker 3: Y'all.
Speaker 2: All right, fine, do whatever you gotta do.
Speaker 1: Puff you was you was like your own crime lord,
Speaker 1: your own way, take your time, just like I would
Speaker 1: have to take minds.
Speaker 2: But you need to approve that like.
Speaker 5: Ingested. Yet has anyone stated that that's what he was
Speaker 5: doing yet or no.
Speaker 1: I went and looked through the nineteen page. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sit today and read the nineteen pages. When we come
Speaker 1: back Monday, we have something to really talk about. But again,
Speaker 1: that was not it. I kept looking for that. I
Speaker 1: kept looking for okay, maybe because that somebody brought that
Speaker 1: up to me.
Speaker 2: They set glasses.
Speaker 1: What if he's using the footage to get better deals
Speaker 1: and business deals, that is racketeering.
Speaker 5: Charge him.
Speaker 3: That's how Gene They said that he does because he
Speaker 3: had said he had a camera in every room, he
Speaker 3: was illegally taking people and stuff like that. They need say.
Speaker 2: And charge for that.
Speaker 3: But he's not.
Speaker 1: If he's not using the footage, big bro for commercial
Speaker 1: profit to profit commercially, I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: Stop charging this man of racketeering. Charge him for what
Speaker 1: you can prove the racketeering. Listen, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: why it's so important to get the racketeering off of him.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm gonna tell you why it's important.
Speaker 1: If it's not true, the racketeering could make other things
Speaker 1: that are simple things true. It makes the kidnap look different.
Speaker 1: You get more time when you commit a kidnap under
Speaker 1: a racket it's different. That's why they went to r
Speaker 1: Kelly and they gave r Kelly thirty two years. Right,
Speaker 1: they charged r Kelly thirty two years. They gave Sammy
Speaker 1: the boy five years. He murdered nineteen people. They need racketeering,
Speaker 1: they need racketeering on his charges, and they're making it
Speaker 1: a big deal. That's the centerpiece of it. It makes
Speaker 1: the kidnap look different because if a jury saw you
Speaker 1: drag your old lady back three, they're not going to
Speaker 1: give you ten years for that. But if you make
Speaker 1: it look like you're running a criminal organization and you
Speaker 1: kidnap people, it look different.
Speaker 3: You know, you said who you know what the judges say?
Speaker 2: The puffy what's that?
Speaker 3: He a fan? He a fan? He a fan, He
Speaker 3: a fan, old freaky ass nigga. He a sixty nine guy.
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Speaker 1: check that out. What are people saying he should be
Speaker 1: charged with? Is not in the indictment? Yes, that's my
Speaker 1: issue like it and when they do use it, he's
Speaker 1: not charged with repe because if you actually drug somebody
Speaker 1: and you take vagina from them, steal, that's ripe.
Speaker 2: You're not charged with. Go read that list. It's not rape.
Speaker 2: It's not rape.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what the thing is, man, whenever you
Speaker 3: get the court of public opinion going, it's like this
Speaker 3: man is already guilty.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was That's what i was telling
Speaker 1: the homie. I'm telling him. I'm like, these cases are
Speaker 1: one in the court of public opinions sometimes, like if
Speaker 1: you agle to make him a villain before he actually
Speaker 1: steps in front of a judge, that's crazy. Puffs charged
Speaker 1: with more by next week. Investigation not over what do
Speaker 1: you mean? Investigation question? Largely right, they are not pulling.
Speaker 2: See that's the still.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying it, but the thing is they're
Speaker 3: doing all this. They already had referend TD Jakes. He
Speaker 3: could have been over there just really trying to make
Speaker 3: Puffy a better person. But people have already kind of
Speaker 3: implicated him in all this nonsense, and he's a referend.
Speaker 1: Listen, the shout out to Cherion Dollar God is thank
Speaker 1: you for rocking with his sister this loan, appreciate you
Speaker 1: being here. The Feds hold back on some charges so
Speaker 1: the victims and witnesses are exposed too soon.
Speaker 2: That's not what's happening to this shit.
Speaker 5: That shouldn't even be a talking point. You shouldn't come
Speaker 5: out and do a press conference to the entire potential
Speaker 5: jury stating all of that your bias is in advance.
Speaker 5: It's ridiculous. I don't even know. I seriously don't know how.
Speaker 2: These you know, people believe you as the law.
Speaker 1: We're not at a time like citizens one hundred years
Speaker 1: ago was much better American citizens. They wouldn't just believe
Speaker 1: everything the government says today, y'all. I'm gonna say y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all in the comments, a lot of y'all believe whatever
Speaker 1: the government said happened is true. It don't matter if
Speaker 1: it's state or federal. Y'all take that as law before
Speaker 1: they convict it guilty. That's why they have to change.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same reason people blame hip hop
Speaker 1: for things happening.
Speaker 2: You don't think.
Speaker 1: You don't think the government doing a full live press
Speaker 1: conference is in saying somebody we're charging with somebody that
Speaker 1: don't translate to the average human being as all.
Speaker 2: You know what, and you have the you.
Speaker 5: Have the constitutional right to address your accuser. You know
Speaker 5: you can't be charged, tried, and convicted by an anonymous person.
Speaker 5: To protect the identity of the victim. You have the
Speaker 5: right to what's the what's the worthy you have, You
Speaker 5: have the right to confront your accuser.
Speaker 1: The fact that y'all just trust wither y'all are the
Speaker 1: most like the whitest white people in the United States
Speaker 1: of America don't trust the government. The whitest white people
Speaker 1: in the United States of America don't trust the government.
Speaker 1: So how could the greatest, the people mistreated, the greatest
Speaker 1: in this country trust the government?
Speaker 2: How is that puff shit? Not making y'all think twice?
Speaker 2: That's crazy?
Speaker 1: Even white people, regular white people that live their life
Speaker 1: every day be like, man, I don't trust the government,
Speaker 1: but y'all trust the government. Y'all like Well, the government
Speaker 1: said that they wouldn't put up a case against him
Speaker 1: if it wasn't true. They wouldn't put up a case
Speaker 1: on him. If it were, of course they would. What
Speaker 1: do you mean they wouldn't. Of course they would. Now again,
Speaker 1: we're not saying puff is obviously guilty of one specific
Speaker 1: crime that we saw for sure. The crime that for
Speaker 1: sure we saw was him assaulting his old lady. That's
Speaker 1: a crime. That's the one crime. The second crime is
Speaker 1: they went into his residence and found guns without serial numbers. Right,
Speaker 1: that's a crime to facing ar fifteens, that's a crime
Speaker 1: that for sure. They found that gun in his house,
Speaker 1: that's a crime. But he's supposed to fight those charges.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to meet his accusers in the courtroom. If
Speaker 1: you say these are my guns and they're in my house,
Speaker 1: prove them and then it's my job to prove they weren't.
Speaker 2: But y'all are.
Speaker 1: So quick to believe rumors, gossip in the government, like
Speaker 1: not even a fact man.
Speaker 3: Little Ro got that man on camera.
Speaker 2: Little Rod don't got him on camera. Little Rod got
Speaker 2: the Little Rod got footage of Stevie j supposed to
Speaker 2: knock down a white man.
Speaker 3: On the bed with a dude holding him like this.
Speaker 2: But why do I care that? Again, this is.
Speaker 1: A moral which hunt. This is not really about taking
Speaker 1: down world class criminals. You're talking about doing something.
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I agree with you with one
Speaker 3: I agree with you to this stuff as bad as evil.
Speaker 3: But I will say this, Puffy put hisself in his position.
Speaker 1: No he didn't, No he didn't, No, he didn't. Puffy
Speaker 1: did not put hisself in this position.
Speaker 3: He put hisself in so he didn't put.
Speaker 1: If listen, I put myself in and I put myself
Speaker 1: in this position when I was selling PCP and they
Speaker 1: charged me. That's the position to miss. This is a
Speaker 1: Mitch Cars of justice. This is not correct. This is
Speaker 1: all about somebody being bigger than life. This is all
Speaker 1: about somebody being bigger than life. Some federal prosecutor trying
Speaker 1: to make his case want somebody to look big with
Speaker 1: a popular person bingle.
Speaker 3: Did you see it right there? Just by them putting
Speaker 3: little things there like what him have in a thousand
Speaker 3: bottles of baby oil would have to do it anything?
Speaker 3: Why did that even need to be put in there? Yes?
Speaker 5: Why is there at all?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: For what you know?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 1: Because they want the props of this and people and
Speaker 1: they flaun him. I keep saying this, y'all, don't get it.
Speaker 1: They're flawing Diddy around like he got a hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy bodies. He had a drug ring running for the
Speaker 1: last forty years. The only you can be guilty of
Speaker 1: his whole enterprise would have to be off buying vagina.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you this is one of those things. And
Speaker 5: I think it also plays unto the fact that the
Speaker 5: way that whole Epstein deal got botched, and they've taken
Speaker 5: all the Epstein client list and buried seven thousand feet underground.
Speaker 5: Some component of this has to do with the other
Speaker 5: people in this of these other participants. There's a pool
Speaker 5: of people, and somebody or somebody's in that pool of
Speaker 5: other participants. They want their fucking ass.
Speaker 3: This is true.
Speaker 5: This is like a Pandora's box of federal targeting, and
Speaker 5: he just happens to be the gatekeeper.
Speaker 1: Trillion dollar god Is. Do you know how much video
Speaker 1: footage was confiscated? You can't defend him without knowing what
Speaker 1: they have. You know what I could defend trillion dollar Goddis.
Speaker 1: I'd be willing to stake my reputation that he is
Speaker 1: not a fucking racketeer.
Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot.
Speaker 5: Happen, and charge him with five hundred rapes or charging
Speaker 5: with five hundred druggings or five hundred kidnappings. That's the
Speaker 5: six thousand years.
Speaker 3: At the basic you know, the basic thing is, that's
Speaker 3: all we're saying our things. Jeez, I think we all
Speaker 3: seeing the same thing. I don't believe he should be
Speaker 3: getting charged with no Rico ship, with no racketeering stuff.
Speaker 3: Because he hasn't done nothing. But if you could accuse
Speaker 3: him of possibly spiking people's drinks and raping people and
Speaker 3: all that stuff, that's a whole different thing. That's not
Speaker 3: racketeering though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just show me the charge him there, it's not show,
Speaker 5: and then show me the rae.
Speaker 3: Being a freaking man. You know, being a freak ain't
Speaker 3: necessarily no crime.
Speaker 1: Well it is, but my point is it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: paraded around to me like I'm supposed to here.
Speaker 2: Just charge him for the exactly.
Speaker 3: J R.
Speaker 1: Kelly, That's all I asked for. Puff charge him with
Speaker 1: the right stuff.
Speaker 3: Ask you this back to the R. Kelly stuff. Did
Speaker 3: that Surviving R. Kelly movie come up before they charged him?
Speaker 2: Yes, that is what he was doomed.
Speaker 3: Anyways because they saw that. I think every woman in
Speaker 3: the America to that.
Speaker 1: Yes, And if you look at that stupid ass thing,
Speaker 1: they didn't say nothing crazy Like I remember there was
Speaker 1: one specific part in that R. Kelly doc where it
Speaker 1: was a grown sister I think she was from Texas.
Speaker 1: She was like forty, dark skin, she was cute, she
Speaker 1: was grown, but she was like, yeah, he had these
Speaker 1: rules talking about I can't leave my room, you know,
Speaker 1: dot out, and that was the room.
Speaker 2: If I left, I couldn't come back.
Speaker 1: So I got my stuff and I left so everybody
Speaker 1: could leave. You can't convince me that kidnapping is if
Speaker 1: I tell you, if you go somewhere, I don't want
Speaker 1: you to come back.
Speaker 2: That might make me a shitty.
Speaker 5: Person, the opposite of kidnapping.
Speaker 1: Yes, it might make me a weird person, but it
Speaker 1: don't make me a kidnapper. If you if you let
Speaker 1: somebody callis you by the thought of their presence not
Speaker 1: being around you anymore.
Speaker 2: We gotta stop this. This trophies.
Speaker 5: That's calibrating the degree to which you're complying and wanting
Speaker 5: to be there.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's incredible. People charged with the right thing. That's it.
Speaker 2: I don't want anything. I don't want any more or
Speaker 2: any less. Charge people with the right things.
Speaker 1: That's all I want. That's not too much to ask.
Speaker 1: You charge Jeffrey Epstein with trafficking of miners. It wasn't
Speaker 1: no racketeering case. He actually probably was actually had a
Speaker 1: racket going. But you charge and put up all it
Speaker 1: is you in charge. You didn't charge Weinstein with racketeering.
Speaker 1: He ain't charge Weinstein with racketeering. He was giving people jobs.
Speaker 1: It was commercial propert. Why you gotta charge Puffin or
Speaker 1: Kelly with racketeering? You know they ain't no damn mafia bosses.
Speaker 1: What do you know, no mafia.
Speaker 3: Boss So everybody that was at them parties, they said
Speaker 3: they would have them come out and testify.
Speaker 1: Right, No, they're not fit atom people because you know
Speaker 1: why you couldn't build a case on that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he walked. The cross examination would kill the
Speaker 5: whole case. You got people who are fucked up sleeping
Speaker 5: around people of these parties years.
Speaker 2: And this is how I'm gonna end this live squab cooks.
Speaker 1: The government uses racketeering as the catch when they can't
Speaker 1: prove the other stuff.
Speaker 2: And that's my point again.
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