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Speaker 1: day three of my time at the show, and it's
Speaker 1: also day three of the Trump indictment watch. Uh now,
Speaker 1: nothing happened today, but let me be clear about something.
Speaker 1: I only have one more day this week behind this desk,
Speaker 1: and if some of our host gets this, gets this one,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pissed. So come on album brag tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But whatever, let's let's get into today's headlines. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: kick things off with my home state of Minnesota, which
Speaker 1: just became the fourth state in the Union to guarantee
Speaker 1: free school lunch to every single Yeah, dare that's a
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good, feel feel good story in Minnesota, right. Well,
Speaker 1: one Republican state senator didn't think so, mister President. I
Speaker 1: have yet to meet a person in Minnesota that is
Speaker 1: hungry yet today. I have yet to meet a person
Speaker 1: in Minnesota that says they don't have access to enough frute.
Speaker 1: Now I should say that hunger is a relative term,
Speaker 1: mister President. You know I had a cereal bar for breakfast.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm hungry. Now. The badness is this is
Speaker 1: a guy who we call in Minnesota a big jerk.
Speaker 1: You know. The great thing is we've got ten thousand
Speaker 1: lakes we can throw this gosh darned jerk into. Sorry
Speaker 1: I went off the deep end there, but this guy's
Speaker 1: clearly a jerk, and I don't know why this guy
Speaker 1: is being so singy. There's a simple solution here. Every
Speaker 1: year at the Minnesota State Fair they always carve a
Speaker 1: giant butter sculpture of Princess K of the Milky Way.
Speaker 1: So why don't we take that sculpture and shove it
Speaker 1: up the guy's ass. I'm up on that one. Now,
Speaker 1: let's head west a couple of states to the great
Speaker 1: state of Idaho, where they just voted to bring back
Speaker 1: firing squads as a potential form of capital punishment. Death
Speaker 1: by firing squad. That is so red state. Personally, I
Speaker 1: prefer the method of execution in liberal states. Give them
Speaker 1: a few ambient and put a Ken Burns documentary on
Speaker 1: until they've met their God. Now, some people argue that
Speaker 1: a firing squad is less barbaric than lethal injection. But
Speaker 1: I have an even less barbaric idea. What if we
Speaker 1: just didn't execute people at all, or or we duct
Speaker 1: tape a hand grenade to their head. And finally, let's
Speaker 1: talk about Donald Trump, who could be arrested any day
Speaker 1: now in the porn star hush money case. And according
Speaker 1: to The New York Times, Trump is trying to decide
Speaker 1: whether he should smile for the cameras when he gets arrested. Now, personally,
Speaker 1: I think it would be a good idea to smile.
Speaker 1: In fact, maybe he could do this smile. You'll notice
Speaker 1: we put that black bar across the young woman's face
Speaker 1: to help maintain her anonymity. But don't forget Trump has
Speaker 1: four separate investigations that could land him in jail. Remember
Speaker 1: those classified documents he took from the White House. Well,
Speaker 1: that case just got a lot more serious for him.
Speaker 1: Trump faces multiple criminal investigations, sources telling ABC News of
Speaker 1: federal judges determined that there's enough compelling preliminary evidence that
Speaker 1: Trump broke the law. In another case, the Special Counsel's
Speaker 1: investigation of Trump's handling of classified documents, in particular, prosecutors
Speaker 1: say he knowingly misled his attorneys so that they would
Speaker 1: file a sworn statement last tune that he knew was false,
Speaker 1: claiming that a diligent search of his Marlago estate found
Speaker 1: that he had turned over all the classified documents in
Speaker 1: his possession. So, just to be clear, Trump was already
Speaker 1: in trouble for stealing classified documents from the White House,
Speaker 1: and now he may have broken the law again by
Speaker 1: tricking his own lawyers into lying to the government. So
Speaker 1: Trump's original crimes are now having their own little baby crimes.
Speaker 1: You know, they grow up and implicate you so fast, okay,
Speaker 1: the little guy. Can you imagine being a lawyer for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and finding out he set you up. That
Speaker 1: would make you a question whether it was even worth
Speaker 1: buying a degree from Barbados in the first class. So look,
Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of different cases going on,
Speaker 1: and this all seems very complicated, but there is a
Speaker 1: simple explanation. Trump is a criminal. I hope that both
Speaker 1: all now. As you know, as Trump faces the prospect
Speaker 1: of arrest, he is called on his supporters to take
Speaker 1: to the streets and protests. So Jordan Klepper went down
Speaker 1: to the courthouse to bear witness to the chaos. Check
Speaker 1: it out. Last week, Donald Trump declared his arrest was
Speaker 1: imminent and called for a protest to take our Nation
Speaker 1: back outside the Manhattan District Attorney's office. So yesterday I
Speaker 1: ventured all the way downtown and joined the media circus
Speaker 1: to observe this crowd of MAGA protesters who we're definitely
Speaker 1: around here somewhere. Yeah, this is the truth social here
Speaker 1: it says Tuesday protests take our nation back? Ex Is
Speaker 1: this the protest for Trump or the Trump protest or
Speaker 1: the supporting Are we taking our nation back? Is that today?
Speaker 1: I thought it was today, So I did have the
Speaker 1: day right, And then I found up proud and totally
Speaker 1: concealed Trump supporter. Why are you here because I'm here
Speaker 1: to support Trump? Because they want to Dina. So Trump
Speaker 1: went on his own social media and he called out people,
Speaker 1: his supporters to come out here and support him, and
Speaker 1: right now, that's just you. I'm here, I'm here, have
Speaker 1: you as a crowd. I don't need you to come
Speaker 1: on something. I'm okay. I'm here to actually see what's
Speaker 1: going on. Everyone was talking about it, so I came
Speaker 1: here to check it out. You want to see it
Speaker 1: with your own eyes. It's right, because I don't believe
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing on the news. Meet, so what have
Speaker 1: you seen so far? Absolutely was not correct. This was
Speaker 1: an unusual Magarelli. The numbers were low, and it was
Speaker 1: in my own city. However, the arguments over some basic
Speaker 1: facts were refreshingly familiar. Do you think it's fair for
Speaker 1: Trump to be indicted if that does happen this week? Listen?
Speaker 1: I don't know all the specific facts, but what I
Speaker 1: do know is he's my president right now, I think
Speaker 1: he's not president. Do you think he's serving the role
Speaker 1: as your president currently? Well, he's in my heart, he's
Speaker 1: my president. I just had to be clear SubTime for sure.
Speaker 1: Sure you think Joe Biden is president? Right? No? I
Speaker 1: think that man is is escape. I just know that's
Speaker 1: a legendary he's there because that man doesn't make an
Speaker 1: exens but technically he is there. He is serving the
Speaker 1: role of president. Maybe I don't know. I haven't been.
Speaker 1: I've been, I've been Washington, DC. I've not seen him
Speaker 1: walk in the White House. You don't think he actually
Speaker 1: spends time in the White I don't know. Well, there
Speaker 1: are videos of him in the White Huse. He's can
Speaker 1: we just I just want to get beyond this fact.
Speaker 1: He is the president United States. Donald Trumps the president
Speaker 1: the United States. In fact, that's what I'm said, right,
Speaker 1: never why you're here today, Joe Biden is going after
Speaker 1: him because I don't know why he going after Hi,
Speaker 1: because they're going to push him out to do and
Speaker 1: probably bring Oh Michelle, Michael Obama and okay, but Michael Obama,
Speaker 1: why do you call what did Joan Rivers say? What
Speaker 1: did Joan Rivers? That's correct? If anybody remember what she said?
Speaker 1: Do you get most of your news from Joan Rivers? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: I don't get none of my knew from Doolan River.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what she said about Michael Obama. Okay.
Speaker 1: Regardless of their sources, the mocking crowd, which the police
Speaker 1: estimated to be between three and six people, believe these
Speaker 1: charges were unworthy of a former president. I don't feel
Speaker 1: Trump should be in trouble. That's unconstitutional. I feel said presidents,
Speaker 1: this is a political attack. Yes, they're not charging somebody
Speaker 1: else for this crime. Yes, everything is political, right, they
Speaker 1: did charge somebody else with this exact crime. Yeah, So Whyson.
Speaker 1: He beats homes well. Michael Cohen was charged, played guilty,
Speaker 1: serve time in jail. This loyalcy, loyal name lucy is nothing.
Speaker 1: This is about a man who cheated on his wife
Speaker 1: with a porn star while his wife was at home
Speaker 1: with her newborn son. But loyalty is a big issue
Speaker 1: for you. Listen, we made right so we all know.
Speaker 1: Trump doesn't understand how the law works. Turns out, he
Speaker 1: doesn't know when it works either. But Fromaga supporters feeling
Speaker 1: fomo about missing the Donald showdown with Justice, I'm confident
Speaker 1: you'll get another chance. Hello, are you gonna be here today?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe a couple more hours, walk around
Speaker 1: and perhaps somebody If Trump has indicted in Georgia next,
Speaker 1: you're going there? Oh no, maybe I won't. It's like
Speaker 1: a big old indictment to all right, I'll see him Georgia.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll swing by DC Carlon what for everyone? All right,
Speaker 1: why don't we come back? We'll tell you why. Chucker
Speaker 1: Carlson's face looks like that, so don't go away. Welcome back,
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Speaker 1: a lot of fun here, but none of our jokes
Speaker 1: would be possible without the work of real journalists. Real
Speaker 1: journalists like Tucker Carlson. Now, many people know Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: as a world class asshole, but what those people often
Speaker 1: fail to mention is that he also looks like an asshole.
Speaker 1: Although it turns out Tucker gets a lot of help,
Speaker 1: as we'll discover in another installment of the People Behind
Speaker 1: the People. We have this information as part of a
Speaker 1: criminal investigation, but we can't announce it immediately as we
Speaker 1: typically do. We're gonna hold it. It's okay, great, Now,
Speaker 1: I want you to look dumbfounded, as if Nintendo just
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Speaker 1: Gavin Bancroft, and I'm Tucker Carlson's face coach. If you've
Speaker 1: ever seen Tucker looking like a groom that pooped himself
Speaker 1: at the altar or a scandalized baked potato, well then
Speaker 1: you've seen my work. All right, Tucker gave into the
Speaker 1: camera like you're a ten year old watching a cowgive birth. Perfect.
Speaker 1: Can now hold it? Hold it, hold it. Some people
Speaker 1: think Tucker was born with a face that looks like
Speaker 1: an inbred boat shoe, but it's actually a lot of
Speaker 1: hard work. Yeah, that's why he pays me four hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year American. Okay, and now laugh like
Speaker 1: you're a fancy prince who just saw a peasant get
Speaker 1: kicked by a mule. Oh gone, because we don't do math.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm possible. Looking for inspiration, I'll scour the internet
Speaker 1: for new surprised or disgusted face, as Tucker could make
Speaker 1: during his interviews when he finds out one of the
Speaker 1: eminem's as a lesbian. The green eminem got her boots back,
Speaker 1: but apparently is now a lesbian. Maybe it's such a
Speaker 1: treat for me to get to work with Tucker. He's
Speaker 1: got all the attributes a face coach could want. A
Speaker 1: forty pounds skull, natural mouth breather, the haircut of a
Speaker 1: drunk lacrosse dad. It's a face that's just made to
Speaker 1: tell old people that Abbott elementary is critical race theory.
Speaker 1: We've experimented with more subtle expressions. Hey, let's just try
Speaker 1: a cat a little smile, Like you were walking to
Speaker 1: work and you saw a Mexican family getting evicted. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Tucker knows where his
Speaker 1: bread is buttered. And that's looking like Frankenstein walked in
Speaker 1: on his parents having sex. All right, that's a wrap
Speaker 1: on Tucker's face. Tucker's face. Everyone you tomorrow, they do,
Speaker 1: because when we come back, Heather McGee will be joining
Speaker 1: me on the show. We'll be right back after this
Speaker 1: word from the My Pillow Guy. Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Daily Show. My gift tonight is an author who's New
Speaker 1: York Times bestseller The Some of Us has just been
Speaker 1: adapted for young readers. Please welcome Heather McGee. Good to
Speaker 1: see you here. You know, I've been doing podcast, a
Speaker 1: very prestigious podcast, for for about four years. And now
Speaker 1: you're you're my favorite guests. You've been on three times.
Speaker 1: You're my favorite guests. You're so brilliant. Um. Now you're
Speaker 1: an economists and you the first time we met was
Speaker 1: during the banking crisis, and we talked a lot about that. UM,
Speaker 1: subprime loans, et cetera. And housing has always been a
Speaker 1: big part in the gap in terms of wealth between
Speaker 1: blacks and whites. Can you explain where that's where that
Speaker 1: kind of started? Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I always say
Speaker 1: wealth is where history shows up in your wallet. So today,
Speaker 1: the average black college graduate has less wealth on average
Speaker 1: than the average white high school dropout. Makes no sense.
Speaker 1: Say that again. Yes, so if you're the average white
Speaker 1: high school dropout, you are wealthier than the average black
Speaker 1: college graduate. So that's history showing up in your wallet. Right.
Speaker 1: We're talking about wealth, not a paycheck. We are talking
Speaker 1: about your home equity, your stocks, your bonds, your inheritances.
Speaker 1: And that all dates back to that massive racial wealth
Speaker 1: divide that we have today, dates back to when most
Speaker 1: middle class Americans wealth began, which was in the New
Speaker 1: Deal era, coming out of the depressed, the progressive FDR
Speaker 1: government said we want to commit to affordable housing and
Speaker 1: mass homeownership, and they created this massive system, this system
Speaker 1: of public subsidy, and they based it on the never
Speaker 1: substantiated assumption that black people would be too much of
Speaker 1: a credit risk. And so they commissioned maps of the
Speaker 1: entire country's largest cities and surveyed them down to the
Speaker 1: block level for their racial and ethnic character and said,
Speaker 1: if there was a high Negro concentration, we're going to
Speaker 1: circle that with a red line and say banks do
Speaker 1: not lend here. And that really only ended in the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, and it was quickly replaced by what people
Speaker 1: call reverse redlining, which is when those contiguous communities of
Speaker 1: lower wealth black communities were targeted with those high cost loans.
Speaker 1: But that's what we were exactly, and that's how we're met.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but yeah, the red lining started during the
Speaker 1: progress of FDR in the early thirties, that's right. And
Speaker 1: you know the way I see it, And this is
Speaker 1: really the kind of core idea of the some of us.
Speaker 1: You know, you and I met, not just because black
Speaker 1: families were being disproportionately targeted early in the subprime crisis,
Speaker 1: before it was a household word. You and I met
Speaker 1: once everything had fallen apart, right, once Lehman had gone bankrupt,
Speaker 1: once trillions of dollars in household wealth and eight million
Speaker 1: dollar jobs had disappeared overnight. And for me, it was
Speaker 1: such an object lesson in the way in which racism
Speaker 1: can ultimately have a cost for everyone. We ignored the
Speaker 1: canaries in the coal mine, what was going on with
Speaker 1: black and brown families early in the crisis, and banking
Speaker 1: committee members just weren't focused on it. And then obviously
Speaker 1: we know how the story ended. Well, the some of
Speaker 1: us is about how race intersects with economic inequality, and
Speaker 1: it became an instant New York Time It's bestseller. And
Speaker 1: now you've done a book that's for for school children,
Speaker 1: for mid middle schools. Yeah, yeah, school, nice school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And how do you explain this to them? How does
Speaker 1: because these uh, these kids are able to understand this? Right? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I noticed this is the book, and it's a little
Speaker 1: shorter than the other, but it seems pretty sophisticated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's we really didn't dumb it down. That was the
Speaker 1: lesson I got. We did sort of casual focus groups
Speaker 1: of educators and middle school students, and they were like,
Speaker 1: don't dumb it down. We actually have access to all
Speaker 1: the same information you do, and we have the same
Speaker 1: kinds of questions. Right. The core question at the heart
Speaker 1: of the Some of Us is why does it seem
Speaker 1: like we can't have nice things in America? Nice things
Speaker 1: like not like flying cars, but nice things like universal
Speaker 1: healthcare and paid family leave and childcare in a great
Speaker 1: school in every neighborhood. And they have those questions. Two
Speaker 1: and so in the Some of Us, I use a
Speaker 1: lot of data, in a lot of history, but ultimately
Speaker 1: it's a series of stories like the story of the
Speaker 1: drained public pool and that now the cover of this
Speaker 1: is the boy jumping in a pool a white boy
Speaker 1: looks like, and I think of a black child there.
Speaker 1: Tell that story, because that's the first story you tell, Lease,
Speaker 1: get right, yeah it is. It's the story of what
Speaker 1: happened to many of the country's nearly two thousand lavishly funded,
Speaker 1: grand resort style public swimming pools that were built in
Speaker 1: that same New Deal era of public goods, around when
Speaker 1: the big housing subsidies were happening. And I like to
Speaker 1: get the kids to picture what it would look like
Speaker 1: to have a community pool that was free and could
Speaker 1: hold over a thousand swimmers at a time. And most
Speaker 1: of them, you know, they kind of gasp and they're
Speaker 1: excited about the idea, and then I tell them that
Speaker 1: they were usually for whites only, and they're sort of like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, And then I say, but then in a
Speaker 1: civil rights movement, black families began to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's our tax dollars that have funded those public pools
Speaker 1: all along. We want our kids to swim. And the
Speaker 1: court sided with them, and progress was made, and then
Speaker 1: many towns and cities, not just in the Jim Crow
Speaker 1: South decided to drain their public pools rather than integrate them.
Speaker 1: They literally drained out the water and backed up truckloads
Speaker 1: of dirt. And I really see in the conversations they
Speaker 1: have the questions they asked me, they get it so unbleivable.
Speaker 1: And they did that all over the country. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Ohio and West Virginia, all over the country. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so and then they planted over yea, so just so
Speaker 1: black and white people couldn't swim together. That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: It's this zero sum story, this old story that says
Speaker 1: that progress from people of color has to come at
Speaker 1: the expense of white people, that we can't all sort
Speaker 1: of share in well being, that we're in this competition
Speaker 1: for dominance and status. And you know what, young people
Speaker 1: get it. It's this story that is of course unbelievable,
Speaker 1: but they've lived in America long enough to know that
Speaker 1: it's actually quite believable because they understand that over their lifetime,
Speaker 1: public goods have really been atrophying, that they don't have
Speaker 1: those big, beautiful swimming pools anymore, that there isn't free
Speaker 1: college the way there was that was a kind of
Speaker 1: a public pool that was funded by the government, and
Speaker 1: they know that as the college going population got more
Speaker 1: diverse for them, right, they're already in a g zero sum. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Idea is basically that wealthier whites taught poorer whites that
Speaker 1: anything that helps African Americans hurts them. Yeah. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: zero sum, that's right. And the sum of us is
Speaker 1: about we all do better when we all do better,
Speaker 1: which is what Paul wallstons the late grade. The late grade.
Speaker 1: You know, it's the part of the book that young
Speaker 1: people really resonate with is the hopeful part. Right. They
Speaker 1: want to hear that we can fix this. And I
Speaker 1: truly believe that everything about the world that we see now,
Speaker 1: all the dysfunction, it's because people made decisions to make
Speaker 1: the world as it is, and so people can make
Speaker 1: better decisions. And the core message is that through collective action,
Speaker 1: people coming together across lines of race, finding solidarity, recognizing
Speaker 1: that we all do better when we all do better,
Speaker 1: and that we all want big, beautiful public pools. We
Speaker 1: can really win and take on powerful interests, but we
Speaker 1: can't if we're divided. And they get that, and it's
Speaker 1: been a really fun trip across the country, schools, libraries,
Speaker 1: little thing going all over the country finding communities where
Speaker 1: this is happening. In Minnesota. Yeah, we have a town, Wilmer, Minnesota.
Speaker 1: It's in Canada, Yo High County. It's the biggest turkey
Speaker 1: producing county in Minnesota. Which is the biggest turkey producing town.
Speaker 1: That's the town I went to the graduation there. About
Speaker 1: half the class German, Scandinavian, about a third of the
Speaker 1: class Hispanic. There's a big meatpacking plant there, about fifteen
Speaker 1: percent Somali. This was the most beautiful thing I'd ever
Speaker 1: gone to in the time that I was in the Senate.
Speaker 1: This town just worked together. Lewiston, Maine is doing that
Speaker 1: all over the country. This works when we all when
Speaker 1: we realize the some of us. That's that's how we
Speaker 1: create wealth, That's how we create prosperity. That's how we
Speaker 1: create a good life for all Americans. That's right, you
Speaker 1: should really run for office. We Herder Heather mcgie. The
Speaker 1: Young Reader's adaption of adaptation rather of Heather's book is
Speaker 1: available now, and the Some of Us podcast series is
Speaker 1: available wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, we're gonna take
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