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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norrie with

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Speaker 2: you along with Chip Coffee. Chip. Can anybody be a

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Speaker 2: psychic or a medium or do you have to have

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Speaker 2: that special gift?

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Speaker 3: There's a debate about that.

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Speaker 4: As I said earlier, everyone has some level of psychic

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Speaker 4: ability as a sliding scale that goes all the way

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Speaker 4: from very little to a lot. And the ones who

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Speaker 4: get information on a regular basis are probably the ones,

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Speaker 4: undoubtedly the ones that we call psychics. Everyone has some

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Speaker 4: level of ability. I don't believe anyone can be a medium.

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Speaker 4: I believe that that's an ability or a skill that

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Speaker 4: some people have and some people don't.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's given to you the mediumship?

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 3: That's my belief. I believe. I believe in a highest power.

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Speaker 4: Some people use the term higher power, but I use

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Speaker 4: highest power and I call my highest power God. And

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Speaker 4: I believe that the gift that I have to be

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Speaker 4: a medium is a gift from God.

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Speaker 3: That's my belief.

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Speaker 2: Is the afterlife, chip, heaven or what is it?

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Speaker 3: Good question?

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Speaker 4: I don't believe in the Judeo Christian versions of heaven

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Speaker 4: and hell. But I do believe that that the afterlife

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Speaker 4: is a place of peace where there's no pain. We

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Speaker 4: can still grow and learn in that realm.

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Speaker 3: There's there's.

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Speaker 4: There's opinion, there's attitude, there's you still have your personality

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Speaker 4: when you go to the afterlife. And the interesting thing

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Speaker 4: that I always tell my clients is that your mother

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Speaker 4: or your father, your grandmother, whomever they want to contact

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Speaker 4: could have been Napoleon Bonaparte or Queen Elizabeth I in

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Speaker 4: a former life. But they're going to come back to

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Speaker 4: you the way that you know them, the way that

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Speaker 4: you knew them in the lifetime that you shared with them.

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Speaker 4: But a soul, a soul doesn't lose itself when it

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Speaker 4: goes to spirit with a capital S.

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Speaker 2: Truly remarkable. Where do you think reincarnation fits into this.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the biblical source for a minute, all right.

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Speaker 4: In the Bible, it says you must be born again, right, yes,

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Speaker 4: and most people tend to believe one interpretation of that

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Speaker 4: passage is that you must be if you're a Christian,

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Speaker 4: you must be you wash it in the blood of

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Speaker 4: the lamb, you must be baptized. What if, as an

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Speaker 4: alternate interpretation. What was meant was, look, Jesus said this. Look,

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Speaker 4: I know that you're trying as best you can to

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Speaker 4: cozy up as closely as you can to my dad

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Speaker 4: and his perfection, but you're not going to get there.

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Speaker 4: But you can get as close as you can possibly be.

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Speaker 4: But that's not going to happen with just one lifetime.

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Speaker 4: You've got to go through many lifetimes to get there,

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Speaker 4: to learn the lessons that you need to learn for

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Speaker 4: your soul to grow and evolve enough to where you

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Speaker 4: can be as close to that divine perfection as you

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Speaker 4: want to be. So maybe that was a way to

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Speaker 4: talk about reincarnation. And I'm a firm believer in reincarnation.

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Speaker 3: I have a.

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Speaker 4: Memory of particular lives, one in particular lives, one in particular,

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Speaker 4: and I've even met some people from that last lifetime

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Speaker 4: met those folks from my earlier lifetime in this current lifetime.

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Speaker 2: Since I was a kid, chip I've always believed in reincarnation,

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Speaker 2: and my theory was that you reincarnate until you reach

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Speaker 2: that level of perfection where you don't have to come

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Speaker 2: back anymore.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many lives that might take, but

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Speaker 2: that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: I want to hear about one of my lifetimes.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I believe.

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Speaker 4: In my lifetime before the one I'm currently living in,

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Speaker 4: that I was a young female who died in a

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Speaker 4: Nazi concentration camp and Nazi occupied Europe. Yeah, I am,

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Speaker 4: I was gassed.

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Speaker 2: What makes you feel that that was you?

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Speaker 4: The memories are just too vivid. And you said, since

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Speaker 4: you were a kid, you've believed in reincarnation. I have

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Speaker 4: always had this weird fascination with Nazis and concentration camps

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Speaker 4: it's like that wreck on the side of the road.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to look, but you can't look away.

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Speaker 4: I had a friend years ago, and she was female,

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Speaker 4: and we started having simultaneous dreams, exact dreams about being

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Speaker 4: the same nights, and we would share those dream experiences

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Speaker 4: that lifetime she was a boy, my younger brother, and

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Speaker 4: didn't know exactly which town we lived in, but we

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Speaker 4: and we were the only two children of our parents.

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Speaker 4: And we both remembered me practicing piano and him as

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Speaker 4: my younger brother, sitting on the piano stool with me

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Speaker 4: while I practiced the piano and other things. My brother

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Speaker 4: in that lifetime did not die in the gas chamber.

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Speaker 4: He actually died of disease. And my friend Beth remembered

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Speaker 4: thinking in that lifetime, if I just make myself as

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Speaker 4: small as I can possibly be, they'll leave me alone.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a real sad sort of statement.

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Speaker 4: But as I said, that was one of the people

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Speaker 4: and there have been several others that we were there.

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Speaker 4: And it's amazing how many people have told me that

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Speaker 4: they think they had a lifetime that included a part

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Speaker 4: of this whole Nazi thing.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing that those who are in the concentration camps

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Speaker 2: were tattooed or branded with a number. Do you have

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Speaker 2: any kind of markings on your body, or any kind

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Speaker 2: of birthmark or something that might convince you that that's

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Speaker 2: where your tattoo could have been.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I'll tell you what I've got.

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Speaker 4: I've got a scar on my wrist that where I

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Speaker 4: rammed my hand through a window when I was a kid.

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Speaker 4: That's the only thing I've gone on my wrist, and

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Speaker 4: I've got one. I don't like pain. I'm not one

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't blame you.

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Speaker 4: I've I've only got one tattoo, and I have a tattoo.

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Speaker 3: On my left wrist that says I z.

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Speaker 4: Z I izzy.

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Speaker 3: I want to hear the story.

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Speaker 2: Sure, here it is.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna name drop shamelessly. Did you ever watch a

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Speaker 4: show called NCIS on television?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, loved it?

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Speaker 4: Then you know who the character of Abby was. Polly Perett, the.

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Speaker 2: Actress, right, the dark haired girl, Yes.

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Speaker 3: The one who was kind of a goth lab fir. She.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's always coming up with these incredible theories of

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Speaker 4: Okay, name dropping. She's a good friend of mine, and

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Speaker 4: you know on the show she had all these tattoos.

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Speaker 4: Some of them were real and some of them were not.

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Speaker 4: But she does have a number of tattoos and I've

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Speaker 4: always in my lifetime. Another facet of my weird existence

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Speaker 4: is I've always had the numbers twelve and twenty one

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Speaker 4: to follow me all my life. I could give you

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Speaker 4: tons of examples how twelves and twenty one's.

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Speaker 3: Pop up in my lifetime.

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Speaker 4: When I met her the first time, I said, how

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Speaker 4: many tattoos do you have?

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Speaker 3: She goes, I don't know how many I've got.

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Speaker 4: We can count them if you want to, and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm good with that with not doing that. But I

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Speaker 4: on that, and I thought, could that possibly be twelve

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Speaker 3: Am I look? A palindrome?

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Speaker 4: It was. Any way you turn it, it looks the same.

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Speaker 4: So I thought, can that possibly be a twelve and

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Speaker 4: got to tell you about the twelves and twenty ones

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Speaker 4: in my life. They follow me everywhere. And I told

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Speaker 4: her that. She said, well, for me, twelve twenty one

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Speaker 4: is a biblical verse. It's Romans twelve twenty one do

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Speaker 4: not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Speaker 4: So I was at an event once and they said

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Speaker 4: and she said, do you have any tattoos? And I said,

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Speaker 4: oh no, And she said, well, let me give you one,

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Speaker 4: just a small one. And I finally got brave enough

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Speaker 4: just like Polly Perette's Izzy tattooed on my wrist.

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Speaker 3: So I share an.

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Speaker 4: Izzy tattoo with Polly Perett And somewhere floating around in

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Speaker 4: the universe, there's a picture of her finger laying on

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Speaker 4: my left wrist comparing our izzy tattoos.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic. Where do angels fit into all this?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 4: God created angels to be his workers or his emissaries,

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Speaker 4: and they're very different than spirit partners or spirit guides.

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Speaker 4: Angels have never incarnated for full lifetime into a human form.

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Speaker 4: They're a totally separate form of being. So Grandma's not

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Speaker 4: going to die and become an angel. Grandma's not going

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Speaker 3: It's a wonderful life.

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Speaker 4: Got it wrong because whatever that guy's what was his name,

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Speaker 4: Clarence did not die and become an and get his

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Speaker 4: angel wings. Clarence was not going to become an angel.

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Speaker 4: Spirit partners are souls like yours and mine, who have

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Speaker 4: to help those as well as they can as much

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Speaker 4: their lives. So they're formerly living beings. Whereas angels may

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Speaker 4: incarnate for a certain amount of time I'm into the

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Speaker 2: Are they the same as spirit guides chip.

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Speaker 3: Angels? Yes, No, angels serve a different purpose.

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Speaker 2: Who might be the most helpful to us? The spirit

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Speaker 4: I think both are very instrumental in helping us. I

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Speaker 4: don't know that one is more important than the others.

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Speaker 4: I think angels are very protective of us, and the

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Speaker 4: difference the distinction. Maybe it's a distinction without a difference,

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Speaker 4: but the distinction is I think that angels are more

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Speaker 4: protective of us in certain ways. They can guide us too,

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Speaker 4: but our spirit partners are here to help us maneuver

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Speaker 4: our way on this path of life.

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Speaker 3: Life.

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Speaker 2: In the movie you just mentioned with Clarence It's a

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Speaker 2: Wonderful Life, one of my favorites. The little girl mentioned

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Speaker 2: his wings, and you say, didn't get his wings, but

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Speaker 2: it was a great part of a movie. But he

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Speaker 2: came down to help George Bailey played by Jimmy Stewart,

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Speaker 2: who was going to try to commit suicide because he

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Speaker 2: was depressed over a banking situation. Right, do they get

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Speaker 2: involved in our lives that way?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes?

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Speaker 4: Sometimes if I'd written the script, George would have already

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Speaker 4: been an angel, right, he would have been a guardian angel.

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Speaker 4: And here's a real cool thing. I grew up for

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Speaker 4: most of my life. I was born with college lived

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Speaker 4: in this little town in upstate New York called Elmira

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Speaker 4: that most people haven't ever even heard of. And in

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Speaker 4: the movie It's a Wonderful Life, fame, somebody's getting ready

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