1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Thank you really readily, Donks look at us now. Tip 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: to Tim. This is our life, this is our passion. 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. It is Tuesday. Let's see September eighth, 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and it is time Donks for Morning Combat. 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Hi everyone, my name is Luke Thomas. I do not 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: have another job. I'm from CBS Sports and the gentleman 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: on the other side of the screen is also from 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: CBS Sports. He's the conspiracy to my theory. He's the 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: apathy to my self titled It's the One and Only 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: Brian Campbell. Brian, did you even get that last reference? 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: I might have? I might have, Luke, welcome back. Great 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: to see you, great to hear from you. We are 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: live this week. Thank you, by the way. Shout out 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: to the late boxing judge Chuck Jampa. You had a 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Chuck jamp A moment last week. Chuck, we're live. Let's 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: take us inside the mind of a judge there. I 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: don't know if you got that boxing reference, but we're 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: back at it. We're fired up. You may be a 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: part of my greater company, but We have yet, Luke, 22 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: to launch, if you know what I mean, We have 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: yet to really take this thing full time, every day, 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: all day. All right, all right, it's getting there. We're close. 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 2: It's worth pointing out. It's worth pointing out how people 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: hit me up after last week's episode being like, Hey, 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: how come you guys aren't five days a week or 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: whatever this past week. Well, we're taking our time to 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: get going. So I think by the end of this 30 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: month we will have a much more robust schedule for 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: you guys to hang your hat on. But for this 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: week and probably next week, it'll be a little bit 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: more to what you've been accustomed to. We got to 34 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: take our time to do this, right PC, as I'm 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: sure you would have will. 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, can we remove that fourth while Luke, 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, you do what you did what most people do. 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: You get a new job, you announce it, you make 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: a big splash, and the first thing you say to 40 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: your new employers are, hey, think about going on vacation 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 1: next week? Is that cool with you? Guys? 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: Yes? I did do that, although I've never actually done 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: that before. That was a first time for me. But 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: I've taken a short staycation I'm not really gonna go anywhere. 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: It's just if I didn't do anything, I would have 46 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: had no vacation this year whatsoever. And so my wife 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: was like, we have to take at least one week. 48 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: So we're gonna take one week. But but the week 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: of the Charlow doubleheader pay per view on Showtime, we 50 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: are gonna be large and in charge and doing a 51 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: lot of stuff that week, it appears, so. 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, go prior up. That's also Adasania Costa fight week, 53 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: so you're gonna be getting a lot of MK and 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: your ear hole in your eye hole. Uh look, you're 55 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: gonna penetrate anywhere else you can do that because that 56 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: week we're common, all right, We're common. 57 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: All right? So as a as always, please give the video, Yes, 58 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: please give the video a thumbs up. Hit that subscribe 59 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: button right there. Lots of reasons to do that. If 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: you want some merch, you can do that as well. 61 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: Go to store dot show dot com. We have our 62 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: own Morning Combat merch now with our own graphics, our 63 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: own page. It's very very nice. You guys have been 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: extremely supportive of that, so please keep that up. The 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: more you buy that, the more different things we can do. 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: With it, so keep that in mind. And then also 67 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: if you let's try Showtime because by the way, why 68 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: wouldn't you. You can go to showtime dot com right now. 69 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: You can try it for thirty days for free. If 70 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: you like it, you can keep it. If not, you 71 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: can pound sand and but this one BC, it's free 72 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: gratis up in this piece for morning combat. Yeah. 73 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Look, MK is about to absolutely blow up. Get on board, 74 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: you know, help out our people here on Showtime. And 75 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: by that merch, by the way, it fits so well, Luke. 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: My dad turned sixty five over the weekend and he 77 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: was gifted by one of his friends with that black 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: no hood MK sweatshirt. He's already loving it. 79 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: Here. 80 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: I meant to tell you, do you know my dad 81 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: texted me on Monday? 82 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: No ready, he. 83 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: Goes, where can I watch your new show? 84 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: All right? All right it's three Yeah, Thomas no longer lonely. 85 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: I love this. 86 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, I was like, well, that's progress. 87 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that's progress, all right, Luke. 88 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: You have that brother, the former restaurant owner too. What's 89 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: the guy's name? 90 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: Matt? 91 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: Full disclosure ahead of your birthday. I slid into Maddie's 92 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Instagram DMS was trying to full on bid lot in 93 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: you was trying to sodom your Hussein and you know, 94 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: get some old school Thomas family gold. That guy straight 95 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: up ghosted me. 96 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds exactly like my brother. If we were 97 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: ude and kuse which one would you be? 98 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't get that reference. It's a Lyle 99 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: and Eric thing. 100 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: Noon Saddam's two fail suns. Thank you, thank you. 101 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm not as you know world culture as you 102 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in Doha. All right, thank you. 103 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: I can tell all right, Well that in mind. Let's 104 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: get this party started and a lot to react to 105 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 2: from the weekend, a UFC show that almost didn't happen, 106 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: but more than just that. However, we start there now. 107 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: We're not going to focus on the COVID protocol for 108 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: that because that's not what I want to focus on. 109 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: We're going to focus in on instead. The heavyweight main 110 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: event alistair Overreim getting a win over a top ten 111 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: ranked contender in Augusto Sakai, and he had to kind 112 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: of earn it pc first couple round. Sakai very patient. 113 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: This fight ended up being kind of sneaky good, but 114 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: in the end Overreim gets the win with a fifth round. 115 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: Sie kego absolutely vicious ground and pound on top. Okay, 116 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: first question before we get to some of the larger implications. 117 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: Is this the kind of win that tells you he 118 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 2: is actually capable of another title run? 119 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: It is? It is Luke one hundred percent. This is 120 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: four wins out of his last five fights. I know 121 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: right now the heavyweight division is deeper than it's been 122 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: in a wild It's a little bit sexy at the moment. 123 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: Yet at that same time, you can be older, you 124 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: can reinvent yourself. You're really always two to three good 125 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: wins from getting right back in there. Well, he's got 126 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: four wins in five fights. And oh, by the way, 127 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: that fifth fight was that knockout lost to Rosenstruk in 128 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: which he was pretty much winning for four and three 129 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: quarter rounds. He's forty years old. He is a man 130 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: come after him. But I did talk to him last 131 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: week and I like his perspective. He knows he's quote 132 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: too old for this game now, or so he says. 133 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: So he's in the midst of what he's calling this 134 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: last run, going all in. He knows the mistakes he 135 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: made against step a four years ago in his only 136 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: UFC title shot. He knows the you know, the hit 137 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: and miss of his initial run in UFC when he 138 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: came in with big fanfare, walk through brock Lesner and 139 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: then started kind of getting knocked out by people he 140 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't have in fights where he was up big. You 141 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: remember Travis Brown fights like that. Well, look he's he's 142 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: reinvented himself a few times, and I really like this 143 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: version of who he is right now, Luke. He can 144 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: still be the destroyer if he needs to be the 145 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: demolition man, whatever you want to call him, and he 146 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: can put you away with knees, just like he did 147 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: back in the day. But he's so much of a 148 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: smarter fighter now, a calculated fighter. I absolutely loved what 149 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: he did in this five round fight, knowing Sekai had 150 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: never gone past three, knowing he may have to give 151 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: up the opening rounds. They were very close. I did 152 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: have it too to nothing, Sakai, but he knew that 153 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: it was going to change if he could figure out 154 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: an opening, which he did with his takedowns in his 155 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: ground game and you mentioned it absolutely vicious ground and pound, Luke. 156 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: I love victories like this because it felt a little 157 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: bit like natural selection. Sekai was unbeaten in the UFC. 158 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: He showed us a little flashes of some good stuff. 159 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was a little overrated. Coming in. He 160 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: had some split decision wins love, handles flying all over. 161 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Not gonna hold that against him. But he's going in 162 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: the deep end of the pool, and Overheim dragged him 163 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: there and it wasn't pretty and it hurt getting there, 164 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: and he gutted out a damn win. Yes, get him 165 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: right up into another big fight. He told me before 166 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: this fight he's one or two wins at most away 167 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: from a title shot. You could certainly argue against that, 168 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: given the names hovering around the situation, which includes John 169 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: Jones's parachuting in. But god, damn it, I don't even 170 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: know if I'm allowed to say that, Luke. I don't 171 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: even say that word in my house. This felt good. 172 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: Never been an Overeams super fan, but love and respect. 173 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: How he gutted this thing out and he had to 174 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: finish Sakai. This wasn't the ref jumping into early. He 175 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: had to beat, beat the uh, beat the youth out 176 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: of him, beat the life out of him. And this 177 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: is what you have to do at this level, and 178 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: it was hard not to come out of that happy 179 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: to see the veteran pull that off. 180 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: Overiam's resume, which we'll talk about the implications of it 181 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: just the second, but if you just look at it, 182 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: it's filled with plenty of blemishes, double digit losses. I 183 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: suspect if he fought for a little bit longer, he 184 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: might even reach twenty losses. He'd probably reach a lot 185 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: more wins. But I'm just saying, you know, he has 186 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: been through the ringer on this one, and he has 187 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: had a lot of setbacks. There's a lot of guys 188 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: here he beat up front that when he had rematches 189 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: with he lost, and he lost badly, like Serge Carazanov. 190 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: It's the thing that's happened to him kind of over 191 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: and over again, and so it's funny, like, how has 192 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: he managed this much success? He just refuses to quit. 193 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: He continues to just press forward. But the reason why 194 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: you can press forward is not just sheer force of will. 195 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: It's reinvention. It is constant reinvention. Here's the point about overreim. 196 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: For a long time he was a big, heavy striking 197 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: kind of inside fighter, both in kickboxing and to an 198 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: extent in mma, and now he is so much more 199 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: than that. He can fight on the outside. He does 200 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: have a good clinch when you need it, especially as 201 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: you saw in this fight from a defensive standpoint. He 202 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: would just kind of let Sakai, not let him, but 203 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: he was not doing a whole lot early to disrupt 204 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: what Sakai was doing in the clinch, and he just 205 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: kind of rolled with it there. It was a very 206 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: comfortable space for him, and then eventually, as you noted, 207 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: he got takedowns. He had a good ground to pound. 208 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: Folks have always told me. I remember my first year 209 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: ever training, someone told me like, oh, alistair Overim is 210 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: not a black belt in jiu jitsu, but he has 211 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: a black belt guillotine. Right, He's always had a ridiculously 212 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: good guillotine. This guy has a million ways to win. 213 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: And if you're smart and you're determined in the ways 214 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: that he is, and you have constantly added skills through 215 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: your thirties and found the right weight class, dude, you 216 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: can do pretty impressive things. So to me, it's like, listen, 217 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 2: you've got Stepe up there, he's got a loss to him. 218 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: You've got Francis up there, he's got a loss to him. 219 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: He got Curtis up there, he's got a loss to him, 220 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: and all three of those guys beat him by way 221 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: of stoppage. I'm gonna be skeptical that he can beat 222 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: those guys, but in beating Sekai the way that he did, 223 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: he has earned the right for another step up the ladder. 224 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: And he's right if he beats one of those guys, 225 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: some kind of rematch with any of those three, depending 226 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: on how the circumstances shake out, is probably going to 227 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 2: be an order, or he can fight Derek Lewis or 228 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: who the hell knows. I'm just pointing out, is he 229 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: The question was, is he capable of another title run? 230 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: That is he gonna be the best guy in that division? Yes, 231 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: of course he is. He is very much alive and well, 232 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: although he understands and sees the exit door. Now, buc 233 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: it gets to the second part of our question. Let's 234 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: assume he goes in that title run and he finds 235 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: someone at the top of that division again, and he 236 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: gets another setback. At that point, Let's say he calls 237 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: it a day. These are all a lot of big ifs, 238 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: but let's pausit that is he the best fighter to 239 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: never win a UFC title. 240 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: He's been a sneaky out in that debate, right, we 241 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: always talk about that Dan Henderson has won that crown 242 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: for a long time, especially after Bisping finally got it. 243 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: I know, fabers Lingering, but he did win the WEC title, 244 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: and you know, we got everybody from Joe Benavidez to 245 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,239 Speaker 1: whoever is your favorite at the moment in that discussion. 246 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: I always forget to include over him in that, but again, 247 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: go back and look at his freaking resume. Yeah, he's 248 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: got sixteen losses, but he's had sixty six pro fights 249 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: in just about every organization that mattered when titles with 250 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: Strikeforce and Dream, fought everybody at Pride with an absolute warrior, 251 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: has that whole kickboxing chapter to his career as well. Yeah, 252 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: he might be there because he has fought everybody. You look, 253 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: you see a lot of knockout losses and Luke remember 254 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: a lot of those. They are vicious. I mean, just 255 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: the Rosenstruke and the Enganu losses together are two of 256 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: the most brutal we've seen in this modern era. But 257 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: it's not just his ability to reinvent himself it's almost 258 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: a freak likability to come back from those type of 259 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: losses not have them ruin his career. He doesn't get complacent. 260 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: He's loving his new run right now with team elevation 261 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: in Denver. Couldn't stop putting them over. In terms of 262 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: the youth, he's feeling in their learning new skills rounding 263 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: out his game. He might be in contention there. Dan 264 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: Henderson won a Strikeforce title as well, never got to 265 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: the top at UFC. I think I put him right 266 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: behind Hendo Luke. 267 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's either there. I mean, there's a lot of 268 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: interesting names you could put on that list. Urol Romero's 269 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: on that list. I put Joseph Benavidez on that list. 270 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 2: There's a few you could certainly point to. I would say. 271 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: In terms of heavyweights, he is easily the best heavyweight 272 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: to never wear a UFC crown, at least to this point, 273 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 2: which is kind of interesting, right. He's beaten five different 274 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: UFC heavyweight champs and if you count vetur Bell for 275 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: a light heavyweight champ as well, so he has six 276 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: wins over UFC champions. No, not when they were champions, obviously, 277 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: but at certain points in his career. To me, it 278 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: tells me a couple of things. One, he is certainly 279 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: on par with those guys in terms of a talent level. Two, 280 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: we kind of fetishized a little bit like having the 281 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: UFC title, like it's this be all, end all demarcation 282 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: of greatness, and it certainly is an important marker of success, 283 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 2: but it's not the only one. Remember, this guy was 284 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: a dream Strikeforce and K one champion simultaneously. Do I 285 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: weigh that more than just grabbing a UFC interim heavyweight 286 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: title or even winning it and then losing it right 287 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: back to back. Yeah, I guess I'll say it out loud. 288 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: I kind of do. And Plus he was a Strikeforce champion. 289 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: Granted there was a bit of an absent team moment there, 290 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: but he was a Strikeforce champion when Strikeforce had a 291 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: very good heavyweight division. 292 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: So to me, lacking drug testing luke and lacks drug testing, I. 293 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: Mean, the seams are so rediculous. Arguments are so ridiculous 294 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: to me. People were trying to give this to me 295 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: on Saturday night when I said, well, people just can't 296 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: decide what their arguments are anymore, right, So the argument is, oh, 297 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 2: you saw us here everyone's gonna have to get off 298 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: stuff and you're gonna watch their performance decline. Oh, we 299 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: know Overariam's been on stuff. Let's watch his performance decline 300 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: and it didn't. Oh, I've had someone to tweet me 301 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: saying he's been taking HGH for all this time. Well, 302 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: which is it, folks? Does it confer lasting benefit to 303 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: the kind where you can be just as good or 304 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: irrelevant as you ever have been, or is it the 305 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: case where once you get off of it there's a 306 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: precipitous decline and change in everything else in body composition? 307 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: You have to decide how much it matters and how 308 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: what is the time horizon? And the amount of confused 309 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: arguments that people send me about this they don't even 310 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: realize the road. Okay, all right, I'm just pointing out 311 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about that stuff. I don't 312 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: think it matters. 313 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: We don't have to go down there, Luke Fauci, Okay, 314 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: we can make a joke and move on. All right. 315 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I'm just saying what he was able 316 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: to accomplish at that stage, to me, is pretty impressive 317 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: across two sports. Plus if you look at how he 318 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: was fighting at that k one time. I alluded to it. 319 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: Previously it was a lot of like hardcore inside fighting, 320 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: and now he's doing something totally different. And so my 321 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: only point being is I put him on par with 322 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: some of the best top ten heavyweights, maybe inside the 323 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: top ten of all time. I don't want to say 324 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: that if he never wins the title, we can't count 325 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: that against him. You kind of have to, but you 326 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: cannot lose sight of all of the other accolades BC 327 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: he's put together. That to me means just as much, 328 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: and in some cases a little bit more. 329 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: Two quick points on him. I thought it was interesting 330 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: that he told me his best win, the win that 331 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: he covets the most, was the Brock Lesner win. Now 332 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: I get it from a fanfare sense, right, him stepping 333 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: up to that UFC level was a big deal, But 334 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: that was a somewhat diminished Brock. He had already been 335 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: knocked out and lost the title. And the second thing, Luke, 336 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: let's not forget how close he did come. I mean, 337 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: even outside of the steepay tap joke. He knocked me out, 338 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: it's down and had him on Queer Street. If you will, 339 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: and I know you will, Luke, so he was already 340 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: that close. He's still a threat. I think he's a 341 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: better fighter now than he even was four years ago. 342 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: So he's you know, in a better spot to expose 343 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: people like Sakai. Can he get over the top against 344 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: the very super elite It kind of remains to be seen. 345 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: You nailed Derek Lewis as a potential right opponent for 346 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: his next fight, considering he's lost to everybody else. But 347 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: you saw Twitter's reaction Saturday night. How about Overheim's former 348 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: teammate John Jones. How about that fight? How about that 349 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: as a proper introduction to the heavyweight division. 350 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: I love it. I love that one too. Let me 351 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: just add one more thing. We have sort of maligned 352 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: heavyweight for a long time in MMA as like sort 353 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: of the poor man's division, the sick man of MMA, 354 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: in saying that all the other divisions were much much better. 355 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: And I think now you know, overheam had a long 356 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: time at light heavyweight. Now he's been in heavyweight for 357 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: a good long while at this point, but he there 358 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: certainly had some success and started his career out at 359 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: light heavyweight. And you know, we've seen a couple other 360 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: guys go from light heavyweight to head heavyweight and not 361 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: have quite the success that we thought. I'm not here 362 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: to declare that like everything we thought about heavyweight was wrong, 363 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: but I do think we probably want to amend the 364 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: idea that it's some kind of really behind the times, 365 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: behind the curve kind of division. It's for all the 366 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: reasons that we mentioned. The best athletes, certainly in this 367 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: country get recruited for NBA or NFL or something along 368 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: those lines when they're that size, and I think that 369 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: still holds true. But I also think that the we 370 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: we went too far BC in over selling just how 371 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: bad it was. It's actually pretty powerful to another guy 372 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: who like had size and will and made something of it. 373 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not sure what to say about that. 374 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: There was a time when, you know, when Sylvia was 375 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: beating the Gan mcgeese of the world. It wasn't necessarily 376 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 2: the best division. It probably deserved some some slander, but 377 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: it's I mean, it's so different now. And last thing 378 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: I'll say about this, this is why I think where 379 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: you and I come down on oveream, you and I 380 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: are both I think of the position where I'm not 381 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: sure his ceiling has changed, but this idea that the 382 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: bottom has dropped out just because he's aged and had 383 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: a few losses. That is so not true. He is very, 384 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 2: very capable of beating anybody in that division on the 385 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: right night, and so I'm curious to see what he 386 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: can do with it. One more nobc back to you, 387 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: Michelle Pereira had a nice win. Slapping dogs out there. 388 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it a Stockton slap. I'm not sure where. 389 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the sal Paulo slap. I'm not sure where 390 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 2: he's from in Brazil. But this was a guy who 391 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: you absolutely detested. And now you've come around to my 392 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: way of thinking on this what happened to. 393 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: See I haven't fully reached around, if you will, Luke, 394 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: but I will say I was very impressed. Look, it 395 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: was the last fight is a usc deal, so there 396 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: was pressure on him to put away what had gone 397 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: wrong the last two fights. Right, he gassed out against 398 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Tristan Connolly and then he had that weird DQ loss 399 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: to Diego Sanchez in which he was winning. You know 400 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: my issues, he's a damn circus clown because he was 401 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: doing a lot of those theatrics, not in the mindset 402 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: of trying to win even before this fight started to do. 403 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: But he did like breaking two electric boogloo for five 404 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: minutes during his ring intro, like that's gas you're gonna 405 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: need now, to his credit, and he did sort of 406 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: shout it out afterwards, like if you could only see 407 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: how hard I trained Luke. He was in sick shape 408 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: for this fight. I mean he is a freakin' I 409 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: mean a machine physically, and he did have the stamina 410 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: to go three hard rounds in there against a tough 411 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: out and he made it look like he was fighting 412 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: an amateur. I'm gonna give him a lot of credit 413 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: save for that second round where he had that two 414 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: minute stretch of just knucklehead cappawaar a kicks, showtime kicks, 415 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: flipping off the ceiling for you know, it was video 416 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: game fighting, it was it was button mashing time. Outside 417 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: of that, I saw a guy who actually could become 418 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: a legit title contender because of just the out outlandish athleticism, 419 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: great timing okay, the slaps, okay, the trash talking. Secretly, 420 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: I do love that stuff. But again, if you're angling 421 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: that toward winning, right when Nick Diaz double flips off Seroni, 422 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: it's to get in his head. If you're angling that 423 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: stuff toward winning the fight, I'm going to back you. 424 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: And this was a much needed performance. And this was 425 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: even better than I thought he could have done. Luke, 426 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean he absolutely dominated that Russian fella and media. 427 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: If yes, I'm very very glad to hear that you 428 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: agree you were wrong before. Okay, we move on to 429 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: point number two. 430 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: Hold on, don't move on. I don't care that Jay's 431 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: and his turbine engine all upset that no escape never 432 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: got a record deal. Uh, Luke, do you see title 433 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: contender in that body? Okay, it is one. 434 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: Contender, yes, title winner. He doesn't have enough discipline the 435 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: way he fights to win, but he might be the 436 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: best athlete in all of UFC. 437 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: But do you back DC that he's got to clean 438 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: it up a little bit. 439 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: Yes, but he won't and we know that he won't, 440 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: So there's no point in like. He is good enough 441 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: on the right night to beat a ranked guy, but 442 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 2: I don't know he's good enough to put a bunch 443 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: of ranked wins together in a disciplined kind of campaign 444 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: to claim it. 445 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: I want you to put him on the couch right now, 446 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: because I'm da hebas for example, his Brazilian countrywoman. She's 447 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: out of control and interviews. But in the cage man 448 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: she puts that craft together and goes in there to 449 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: take you out. What's going on in that Brostef's brain. 450 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: That's what I can't really figure out. 451 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: A question for a different time. All right, point two, 452 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: how about rock Lesson? 453 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: You got no job? 454 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 2: Bro Point number two, Jay, you are free to go 455 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: to the next slide. Brock Lesner teasing a comeback or 456 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: at least report so that he is a free agent anyway. Uh, 457 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: Nick Diaz and his manager outright teasing some kind of 458 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 2: a comeback in twenty twenty one in the walterweight division, 459 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: so much so putting out a video or look he 460 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: had practiced a weight cut and looked to be in 461 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: fantastic shape. All Right, b see, we go back to 462 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: you flat out. Do we care about brock Lesner and 463 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: or Nick Diaz in MMA in twenty twenty. 464 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: We do stop acting like there's any chance we don't. 465 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Do we care about them in any form of legitimate fight? No, 466 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: that's the key distinction. And when this brock Lessner WWE 467 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: free agent news came out, you know, was I playing 468 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: the clickbait game to a degree. Yes, I also think 469 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: it's an interesting conversation. I wrote the damn story. I 470 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: put out the podcast with Rashad Evans where we went 471 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: from forty five minutes saying what fights make sense business wise? 472 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: What do you think could he go to beltor MMA 473 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: and have a fad or like run. Yes, all of 474 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: the above if he wants to. That's what we don't 475 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: really know. Yes, he's forty three, but we know heavyweight's 476 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: age late. He doesn't have a ton of damage on him. Yeah, 477 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: he'd have to sit out six months for USADA improve that. 478 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: That twenty sixteen win over Mark Konk can be done 479 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: without horse steroids pumped into into your testicles before the fight. 480 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: But Luke overall, when somebody matters this much on a 481 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: business level, yeah, of course it matters. If he came 482 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: in and was John Jones's introduction to heavyweight, it's a 483 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: massive pay per view, whether they did it in twenty 484 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: twelve or they do it in twenty twenty one, and 485 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: stop acting like it isn't And look again, he doesn't 486 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: comment publicly, Brock, He doesn't go social media. He works 487 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: out on a damn farm in Canada somewhere. Don't care 488 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: about your handle or your followers. I don't know if 489 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: he actually wants to fight, but could you imagine, as 490 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: Scott Coker Belat or MMA CEO tweeted out or told 491 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: Ariol or whatever, imagine him going to Belator for stupid 492 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: money and fighting frickin' Brock. I mean, I'm fighting fad 493 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: or excuse me, and in fun circus fights. There are 494 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: so many fun circus fights. How about Anderson Silva against him? 495 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: That'd be a fun circus fight. I'd love to do 496 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: that kind of crap. I don't want Brock against DC 497 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: for the belt like they were trying to do a 498 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: couple of years ago when it made no sense on 499 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: eighty six levels. But yes we should care. He's the 500 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: rare celebrity fighter who matters because he can actually compete 501 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: in the right matchup. Nick Diaz a little bit different. 502 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: Look all the public stuff we've seen, Luke, and I'll 503 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: throw it back at you. I'm a little bit nervous 504 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: physically and mentally where he's at. And I know we've 505 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: said that his whole career, but obviously this window, with 506 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: this much time off, I don't know, man, I mean, 507 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, if you're telling me he's going to go 508 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: in there for one more fight and it'll be some 509 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: fun BMF thing, Okay, cool, but I'm a little bit 510 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: nervous about his well being. 511 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no one has a It's funny when Bracklesner takes 512 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: time off and comes back, fans are very quick to 513 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: point out what I would call very fair and relevant 514 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: factors of his re emergence. You know, he's not been 515 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: doing full on MMA training during this time. He beat 516 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: Mark Hahnt, but there was a Yusada violation before that. 517 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: You know, he had bad losses, as you indicated to 518 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: let's say, Alistair Overine, but there's some other ones as well. 519 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: You know, they sort of point out the things that 520 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 2: you are allowed to say as fair, legitimate, noteworthy criticisms, 521 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: and then when you ask them, what about Nick Diaz 522 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: coming back? The fan base gets collective amnesia about all 523 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: the different factors that might make you want to put 524 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: a bit of a limit on your expectations for him, 525 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 2: and not just amnesia about what has happened, but you know, 526 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: the sort of romanticism even in the present, like after 527 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: the BMF fight with Jorge that was a fight or 528 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: Hay was winning easily like it. There was no controversy 529 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: there at all. Jorge was clearly better than they Diaz, 530 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: at least on that night, and that is not the expectator, 531 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: or that is not the conclusion you would come away with. 532 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: The DZ brothers have this ability to hypnotize huge swaths 533 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: of the fan base, and God bless them, they should 534 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: be getting paid for it, but to hypnotize them, to 535 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: make them forget about all these other things. This is 536 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: not George Saint Pierre handing back the title so Robbie 537 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 2: Lawler and Johnny Hendrix can fight for it, and he 538 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: can go and train, you know, not like he's in camp, 539 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: but sort of as a lifestyle. Take four years off 540 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 2: and come back and go up and fight Michael Bisping 541 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: up at middleweight where you know, yes, maybe even had 542 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: injury during that time, but he was basically still incredibly 543 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 2: active and only walked away because he was burned out 544 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 2: with the rigors of being a champion. Nick Diaz, if 545 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: you had been paying attention to his social media at all, 546 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: was not doing anything like them. That's changed more recently, 547 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: But this guy was in Vegas night after night after 548 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: night after night, and I hear to begrudge of that's 549 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: the way you want to spend his life. It's the 550 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 2: way you want to spend his life. But you should 551 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: manage your expectations about what he can reasonably do when 552 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: he comes back. This idea that he's going to like 553 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: jump to the front of the pack and beat elite welterweights, 554 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: that seems to me incredibly foolish. It hasn't competed. I 555 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: mean his last his last big win where you could 556 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: look back and be like, wow, it's really impressive. What 557 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: was it? Bj Penn And that was when beating him mattered. 558 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: But that's my point. It was when beating him mattered. 559 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: I do think to answer the question we see very quickly, 560 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: I'll throw it back. Yes, clearly there is going to 561 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: be in market for a Lesner and DS. I would 562 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: just argue one, probably not what it once was, although 563 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: still big, especially with the UFC needing to fill out 564 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: as many events as possible to make sure they get 565 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: this ESPN money. And then two, it's going to be 566 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: highly highly opponent, dependent on what kind of real interest 567 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: the fan base is going to have. Because despite the 568 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: amnesia that some might have about the d as brothers. 569 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: I think even they realize some of these make a 570 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: little bit more sense than others. 571 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: Hey remember when Hoyst Gracie came back against Matt Hughes. 572 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: You know, so many years removed, like generations removed in 573 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: terms of the evolution of the sport. I'm not saying 574 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: Nick is facing that, but I'm saying I would bet 575 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: my money more on that we have one more Nick 576 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: das apparents and maybe it goes, maybe not as disastrously 577 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: as Hoyst did, where Matt Hughes just sat on him 578 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: and punched him out like it was brock Lesnar against 579 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: that Asian guy in m One or whatever. But you know, 580 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to see him one more 581 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: time and that's it. So if you want to cash 582 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: him out against you know, BMF style, that's great. But 583 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: I think he's more on the competitive level potentially of 584 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: a Clay Guida or Diego Sanchez right now, and I 585 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: just don't think he's stable. Yeah i'd care, of course 586 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: we would, but you know, he's not going to come 587 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: back and reinvent the will. Too many years, too much 588 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: damage and stuff. But I just want to double down 589 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: and say people got to stop acting like they wouldn't 590 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: care about Brock, Like it's not seeing punk here, right, 591 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: there is an avenue to victory for a freak athlete 592 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: who's still, you know, showing on TV that he's a 593 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: freak athlete. I know it's pro wrestling, but like, there 594 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: are fun matchups you could potentially make, and I almost 595 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: wish the stars would align and he could end up 596 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: in Belator and could go the more you know, circus, 597 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: old guy Fundru. I think there's so many fun things 598 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: you can do there. But you know, we'll see what happens. 599 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: Even then he beats Fad or would you hate to 600 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: see a brock Lessner versus Ryan Bader fight? I would. 601 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: I'd be kind of interested in that. 602 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could almost talk yourself into believing, especially with 603 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: the potential of lax drug testing, that he has a 604 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: chance in that. 605 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: Luke all right, Well, you go from one DS brother 606 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: to the next. There are some reports now nothing is confirmed, 607 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: but here for point three, Jorge Masvidal and Nate Diaz 608 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: are apparently looking to run back a fight from UFC 609 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: two forty four, of course, when they first fought for 610 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: the original b MF title. Now again there are some 611 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: you know, some caveats we should put on this again. 612 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: Nothing official, nothing signed, we don't know when, blah blah blah. 613 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: But this is the idea. They want to go back 614 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: and do again what they had a UC two forty four, 615 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: which you might recall BC ended a little bit early 616 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: by virtue of a cut that the doctor then stopped 617 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: over there in New York. Maybe you put it in 618 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: Las Vegas and maybe it gets to keep going, which 619 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: they might if they end up making it. Okay, BC, 620 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: is this the right next move for both Jorge and 621 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: Nate ds? 622 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: It actually is. It's perfect for both, And there was 623 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: a weird reaction to it of people going, oh, I 624 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: guess this means Jorges you know, celebrity fighter now BMF fighter. 625 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: He had his one you know time at the throne 626 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: against going for the title, and now he's catching himself out. 627 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: It's not Look he took that fight at last minute. 628 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't love the way he fought against whose mind 629 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: it is what it is, But this is the right 630 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: let's shine him back up. There's an you know, there's 631 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: a disconnected storyline there the real fight. Fans know exactly 632 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: what you said that Masvidol was dominating him. DS had 633 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: some moments in the third round. But the just bleed 634 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: faction of the world, the casual fan faction, they can 635 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: go back to that first fight and say, man, if 636 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: the commission and the refs and the doctors didn't take 637 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: that away from Nate, who knows what that fight looks like. 638 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: That's not really reality, but that's sellable. And look, for Nate, 639 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, this and the Connor fight are really his 640 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: two paydays left in terms of massive paydays, in terms 641 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: of fights that actually matter. So I think people are 642 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: wrong on how they view this for Joge, and I 643 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: think people are wrong on saying that this fight wouldn't matter. Look, 644 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: how do you sell big pay per view numbers? You 645 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: attract the casuals. The casuals care about two crazy guys 646 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: going in there and they're just gonna fricking fight. They're 647 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: not gonna lay and pray. Yes, there's still a major 648 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: market for that. Okay, that's called the pay per view business. 649 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: So this is perfect for that, it's perfect for BMF. 650 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: It's just it's very big business. You shine who heey up. 651 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: You let them get a full camp against a super 652 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: leap you know, hopefully for the title and we'll see 653 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: what we have there. But stop complaining about anything connected 654 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: to this. I'm just a little bit nervous where as 655 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: I look at Nick, as I mentioned, I just don't 656 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: think there's anything left in the tank anymore. For Nate. 657 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm having doubts that he can really win a big 658 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: fight anymore. 659 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: Luke. 660 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there is scar tissue that I wish you saw, 661 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: and I feel like that thing his face just busts 662 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: open in any fight. You know, that first McGregor fight 663 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: was the mountain top of his career and it's been 664 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: downhill since then. And you know, I thought maybe a 665 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: year ago, two years ago, there was still life for 666 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: him to be a major pay per view brand and 667 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 1: even a quasi title contender. But I think he's drifting 668 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: away into a full on celebrity fighter. And I wonder 669 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: how many more times Nate will even want to. 670 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: Do this, this argument that Jorge is like, oh, what 671 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: is he some kind of celebrity fighter? Now he doesn't 672 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: want to take on the blah blah blah challenges of 673 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: the world. Who are these fucking people? I mean, do 674 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: you understand at all what you're watching? Ever? At any 675 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: point in the last one year, five year, ten years, fifteen, twenty. 676 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean, what an absurd argument this is. I cannot 677 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: believe that anyone would make this with a straight face. 678 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: See if I can understand this. You have an opponent 679 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: who we just recalled, has a fan base that has 680 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: collective amnesia about all of their shortcomings every time they fight, 681 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: which is great for you and great for them because 682 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: it gives you all kinds of fresh life out there 683 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: for the right kinds of circumstances, which this is so 684 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: number one. You have that number two again. I thought 685 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: Jorge was winning that one walking away, but at the 686 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: same time, it did not end under what we would 687 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: call the most ideal or clean circumstances there is in 688 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: that case unfinished business three. You're both coming off of losses, 689 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: so getting right, it makes sense. You already kind of 690 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 2: beat this guy. You didn't really beat them, but you 691 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: kind of beat him already. You must love your chances, 692 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: and by the way you fight this guy, you're gonna 693 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: make a fuck ton of money. Add to that, BC 694 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: that part of what goes into matchmaking is lobbying. Lobbying 695 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: is a key part of how fights get made. If 696 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: you are jorgey Masvitol and you fight Leon Edwards versus 697 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: being Jorgey mazbit All and you fight Nate Diaz. One, 698 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: you have a much tougher fighting Leon, and two as 699 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: it relates to the lobbying part, you're gonna have a 700 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: lot fewer microphones that you have to answer to, or 701 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: cameras to be in front of or whatever. Even during 702 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: a pandemic. If you fight Nate, so many people are 703 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: gonna want to hear what you have to say. And 704 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: if you are steady beating the drum as you lead 705 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: up to the weeks and days before fighting Nate saying 706 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: if I win this, I want a title shot. If 707 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: I winness, I want a title shot. If I win this, 708 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: and whatever the messaging is around title contention, you are 709 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: much more likely to get it than just beating somebody 710 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: that no one even does, anyone except hardcore is remember 711 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 2: three piece of a soda. That is not why Jorge 712 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: Massvidal is famous to the casuals. It's a big deal 713 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: inside the bubble. It means zero outside the bubble. This 714 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: is the only call for Jorge Massvidal to make, and 715 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: it's a great call for Nate too, in the sense 716 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: that you get a chance at redemption. Who knows how 717 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: the second one could go again. I thought he lost it, 718 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean he'll lose the second one necessarily. 719 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: And again, you're gonna have a partner in this equation 720 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 2: who's gonna make you a crap ton of money. It 721 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: is absolutely the right call for both fighters. If you 722 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: are managing either of these guys and you say to 723 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: them you should get the winner of Colby and Tyrone 724 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: or Leon Edwards, that is fucking malpractice. People, wake up. 725 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: This was not a hard call to make. 726 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: Look it's promotional malpractice. T shirts and sweatshirt's still available 727 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: at Luke Thomas dot com. 728 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: Thank you. It certainly is. I just can't believe it 729 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: that this is even in like remotely debatable. This is 730 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 2: the easier. 731 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: Unbelievable MMA conspiracy theory that uh Nate was coming on 732 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: in that BMF fight, or that producer Jay actually dropped 733 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: Uriah Hall with a spinning kick during during uh Jijut's 734 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: practice that time. Remember that story J told us. 735 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: Mma is unpredictable and wild enough that you can never 736 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: be like, oh, he's got no chance. Make that mistake. 737 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: You will end up eating it eventually. When you do 738 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: it ugly, Jay, I chance Jay is drying his balls 739 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: at a public restroom's hand dryer. What I'm pointing out 740 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: is the argument that Nate was coming on in the 741 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: third round. It's just amnesia and delusion from a fan 742 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: base that really likes their fighters. And that's fine, but 743 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean we have to honor it with some 744 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: kind of you know, truth, veracity or something like that. 745 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: It's Jake, can you come in for one second. I 746 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: got a really important question that the fans want to know. Yes, Jay, 747 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: were there groupies in your short lived boy band? No 748 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: escape like. 749 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 4: Middle define groupies? 750 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys blowing each other doesn't count. 751 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: We Look, it's twenty twenty. Friends can do what they 752 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: want to each other. Please. 753 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 754 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a firm believer that fifteen gets you twenty. 755 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, all right, thank you. 756 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: Jay's like, if we blow each other after the show, 757 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: I guess we can count each other as fans. 758 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, speaking of fans, a turbine engine treating you, 759 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: Jay all right? Back to there and. 760 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: Then and then some poor kid has to go to 761 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: the manager at Starbucks and there's three guys blowing each 762 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: other in the uh in the dudes. All right? With 763 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: that in mind, With that in mind, we go to 764 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 2: our next topic. Uh jay uh all right, you know 765 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: this is a This is actually a bit of a 766 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: weirder one, BC, because it cuts across both of our 767 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: lives in different ways. Jamal Herring, who could not brand 768 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: himself more with the Marine Corps if it was a contest, 769 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: defended his Jimmel just so you know, Jimmel. Sorry, I 770 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: keep calling him Jamal because that's just the bad habit 771 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: that I have. He defended his WBO Junior lightweight title. 772 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: When I say defended BC, it's not quite right, is it, 773 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: Because he was winning against Jonathan o'kendo, But then he 774 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: got headbutted in the fifth and then by the end 775 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 2: of the eighth or excuse me, sometime during the eighth round, 776 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: I think it was the end of the eighth, the 777 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: rep the the the ringside physician was examining him and 778 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 2: he was like, I can't clear you if you can't see, 779 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: and he says, I can't see, and so they waved 780 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,240 Speaker 2: the fight. So he wins via disqualification. But andre Ward 781 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: and Timothy Bradley let him have it. Twitter let him 782 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: have it. Social media in general let him have it. 783 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: So the question is this straight up? Did he quit? 784 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, he quit? And I know that you hate. 785 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of people that are 786 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: gonna be watching this and be like, you know, who's this, 787 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, honky clown that's never been in the ring. No, 788 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: but it's my job to talk about this stuff. And 789 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: I don't have anything bad to say about Jamel Herring. 790 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: But I also believe, like, when did boxing, you know, 791 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: become so soft? Whereas as much as there was like 792 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: this initial backlash after the fight of but did Herring quit, 793 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: there was like a double down in response to that 794 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: of maybe Tim Bradley and andre Ward should apologize. Don't 795 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: they understand that Herring's a marine, he's got two kids 796 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: with special needs, he's coming off of two COVID battles, 797 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: and he took this fight and blah blah blah, that's 798 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,959 Speaker 1: irrelevant to the situation. Jamal Hearing is Assault of the Earth. 799 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: One of the best interviews was Tough as Balls fight 800 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: Er semper fi. There's no such thing as a former 801 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: ex marine, whatever you want to say, but how this 802 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: whole thing went down was wonky. Uh. I even think 803 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: Tony Weeks ruling the headbutt that caused the cut on 804 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: Jamal Hearing as what was the word to use, luke? Uh? 805 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: Did he essentially did it on purpose? What was the 806 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: word they use? 807 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 3: Oh? 808 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 2: Intentional disqualification? Failure? 809 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: Look, I thought that was wonky as well. So here's 810 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: the deal on this. Al Kenda was thirty seven, he'd 811 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: been through the wars. He this was his moment, this 812 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: was his last chance. This was a title fight against 813 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: a guy who was taller, longer, quicker, and maybe even 814 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: more powerful than him. Him Hearing, We've seen this a 815 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: million times, folks. The less skilled guy sometimes says, Look, 816 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: my only chance is to get inside and rough up, 817 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna lead with my head a bit. I'm 818 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: still gonna throw pun But to call this intentional, I 819 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: saw everybody on Twitter going they should throw this fight off. 820 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 1: This guy's obviously leading with his head. Victor Ortiz when 821 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: he got deep in the Floyd Mayweather fight, he was 822 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: leading with his head right. He jumped in and tried 823 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: to spear him as a way out. This was no 824 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: different than Tim Bradley's career, Evander Holyfield's career, even Brad 825 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: Hopkins at times. Was it on the side of dirty 826 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: in terms of clean and dirty, Yes, But everything Tim 827 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: Bradley said and andre Ward was one hundred percent spot on. 828 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: Hearing was uncomfortable almost this entire fight except for the knockdown, 829 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: and the whole narrative they were selling was that this 830 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a tune up fight, a stay busy, 831 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 1: look great fight to bang the drum for that Carl 832 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: Frampton title fight that we're setting up before the end 833 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. And under that setting, I'm sorry Herring 834 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 1: didn't look that good. And yes, it looked like he 835 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: wanted out in that situation. I think he benefited from 836 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: Weeks calling it intentional, which changes the rules a bit 837 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: and could lead to what we saw, which was a 838 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: DQ ending. I don't think Okendo was over the line 839 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: trying to be dirty. I think he was edging that line. 840 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: And there's a long history in boxing of when that happens. 841 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,720 Speaker 1: And just like andre Ward said, there are some things 842 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: you can do when that happens. One, make him not 843 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: do that by the way that you box and use 844 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: your jab, something Herring wasn't doing. Two follow him back. Look, 845 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: there's a game within the game in all sports. I 846 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: play old guy pick up basketball. I almost get in 847 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 1: fist fights all the time. Why because it gets chippy. 848 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes some guy's pulling down the back of your jersey, 849 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: he's elbowing you whatever. Sometimes you gotta fole back to 850 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: gain back respect. And I'm not here to necessarily dog 851 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: on hearing for not doing that. But I'm also saying 852 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: what Ward and Bradley said was spot on. He responded, 853 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: not well to this from a fighter perspective. Does he 854 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: have a history where you can't question that? Well, no, 855 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: nobody does. You're only as good as your last fight. 856 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: In this moment, he didn't do well. And the way 857 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: this fight ended when he went back to the eighth 858 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: round as I'm sorry, I Kendall was coming on those 859 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: final two rounds. He said, Doc, Doc, I can't see. 860 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on. There's blood dripping 861 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: in his eye. I'm sure there was pain in all that. 862 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was very uncomfortable. But what Ward and 863 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: Bradley said, not what Campbell said. What Ward and Bradley 864 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: said was spot on. We've seen true champions fight through 865 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 1: that so many different times. He had blood dripping down, 866 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: but the eye wasn't swollen, it wasn't shut, and he 867 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: kind of in some ways asked out by saying, I 868 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: can't see now. I did think the ring doctor was 869 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: very overwhelmed. I don't even think he properly inspected it. 870 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: He just heard I can't see, and he waved it off. 871 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: And also, if you really read the letter of the 872 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: ruling on the unified rules which was in play, because 873 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: this was a title fight, that fight should not have 874 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 1: been a DQ. It actually should have gone to the cards, 875 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: and if Herring would have won, it would have been 876 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: a technical decision when and if he would have lost, 877 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: it would have been a technical draw. That's the ruling 878 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: because of the intention head butt. Again, I don't think 879 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: it was intentional. You can take points away from him 880 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: all you want and warn him, you can disqualify him 881 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: as the ref. But to nail this as intentional so 882 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: early that weeks did, I feel like it gave Herring 883 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: and out and I felt like he took that out now. 884 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: It was an unfortunate situation, Luke, that he went to 885 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: the hospital and he was sitting there looking at Twitter 886 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: and everyone's calling him a quitter and Joe blowing the 887 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: basement's calling him a quitter, and it seemed to get 888 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: to him and he was kind of playing retirement. I 889 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: didn't like any of that stuff too. I love me 890 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: some Jamel Herring, but good god, we've worn And Bradley apologized. No, 891 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: they were right. It is what it is. There's a 892 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: game within the game, and he lost that game. He 893 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: may have won the fight, but he lost that game. 894 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 2: Luke, if you're going to don everywhere you go as 895 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: part of your identity the eagle, globe and anchor, okay, 896 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 2: you have earned that right because you had served, and 897 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 2: you had had it pinned on you, and it is 898 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 2: part of something that has a dramatic effect on your life. 899 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: As somebody who's had the exact same thing. I understand 900 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 2: the impulse and the good side of getting that ego 901 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: global anchor pinned on you is that people will give 902 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 2: you a little bit of an early leash. They'll say, oh, 903 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 2: he must be upstanding, he must be tough, or whatever 904 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 2: the circumstances call for, to be high character. The other 905 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 2: part of that equation, though, is if you are going 906 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 2: to use that as a shield, that are going to 907 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: have high expectations as well, and you cannot use it 908 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 2: to hide, not suggesting that he has been, but for 909 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 2: people who might be a little bit questioning whether or 910 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: not you can criticize somebody who has done so much 911 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: and been through so much because he has done something 912 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 2: so noble. If you're going to have that as part 913 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: of your identity, then you have to make sure you 914 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 2: understand you're going to be measured against the greatness of 915 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 2: the ego Globin anchor, and clearly he fell short. Look, 916 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 2: here is what it means to serve for folks that 917 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 2: may not understand. It doesn't mean you're an angel, and 918 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you're mister perfect, and it doesn't mean 919 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 2: you're never weak. It just means when the moment calls 920 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: upon you to act in the noblest and most difficult circumstances, 921 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 2: you do. If he is not able to do that 922 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: in a boxing fight that goes his way, it's not 923 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 2: some betrayal from him against the Marine Corps that That's not 924 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: what it is. It just tells you the reason I 925 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 2: think he went to retirement in his mind, BC is 926 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 2: because I don't know exactly how much he really really 927 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 2: wants it. Right. If you have been trained to give 928 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 2: your awe he has in many ways. If you've been 929 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 2: trained not forget about the military side, just the professional 930 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 2: athletics side, to really impose your will and not listen 931 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 2: to the voices of doubt and pain and suffering and 932 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: the things that want to drag you down. If you've 933 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 2: been accustomed to pushing those away, you're gonna get pretty 934 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 2: good at it if you give into it in a 935 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 2: certain moment. Yes, I think he had a moment of 936 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 2: weakness there. I don't think that that makes some bad person. 937 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 2: I don't even think it makes them a bad boxer. 938 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 2: I don't even think that means that they shouldn't make 939 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: necessarily the Carl Frampton fight. What I think it tells 940 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 2: you is for a guy who's whole life is built 941 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 2: around noble character and the perseverance through difficult circumstances, for 942 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 2: him to relent like that and the way that he did. 943 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 2: And again I agree, Oh Kendo was not being disciplined 944 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 2: with his head placement, and that couldn't have been easy, 945 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 2: and he was skirting the line. He was doing it 946 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 2: in a way that is going to make the referees 947 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 2: job difficult. But when Herring was presented an opportunity to 948 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: walk away from a difficult circumstance and get the better 949 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 2: of it. He did. That tells me that I don't 950 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 2: know how strongly he really wants to be doing this 951 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 2: given what it requires. Anymore, If he really did, I 952 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 2: think he's got everything in here to do that. I 953 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 2: just really wonder if that's exactly what he wants. And 954 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 2: it's a function of not ability. It's a function of desire, 955 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 2: and when the desire goes away, that will affect the 956 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 2: ability to bring those character that high character ability that 957 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: he has into display. So that's why he went to 958 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 2: retirement in my mind, because he's got some bigger questions 959 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 2: he has to ask himself. 960 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: Here, Jay rons me to get off of this, but 961 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: I think it's important. Like I also think it's important 962 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: if if somebody quentin in our job is to report, 963 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't care what's my fighting record, Like, get out 964 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: of here. It is what it is at the end 965 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: of the day. And look, by the way, I know 966 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 1: andre Ward. The official score for ESPN had it essentially 967 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: four rounds to four, which seemed generous for Okendo and 968 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: obviously minus the two points one for the knockdown loss 969 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: and one for the headbutt. I thought, you know you 970 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: had to give at least two, maybe three of those 971 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: rounds to a Kendo. And we've been talking about bad 972 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: judging lately. The score cards came out eight to zero 973 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: for Hairing on two cards, seven to one on the third. 974 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: I don't know how you can say that those last 975 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: two rounds. You know, Kendo finally was getting inside and 976 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: landing as Herring was backpedaling. Look, not a great night 977 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: at the office. Not gonna hang them over the coals, 978 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: but it is what it is. 979 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 2: Rake them over the coals, all right, Last, but not. 980 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: Least, I'll hang your ass, Luke, all right because you 981 00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: hate white people. 982 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 2: No, I think they're just fine. But it is raked 983 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: them over the calls, all right. Last, but not least, 984 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 2: we go to our weekend PREVIEWBC A lot to get 985 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 2: to here on the beltor and UFC side. UFC will 986 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: start with it very quickly. We've got let's see, we've 987 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 2: got Angela Hill, first black woman by the way, to 988 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 2: ever headline a UFC card. That's kind of interesting, taking 989 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 2: on Michelle Waterson in a main event that was not 990 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 2: necessarily supposed to be the main event, but some other 991 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 2: fights fell through and they got elevated what's on the 992 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 2: line here? Really to me, this is a highly interesting 993 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 2: fight BC, and the reason why is because Angela Hill 994 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 2: and Michelle Watterson share one common trap aside from the 995 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 2: weight class itself, namely, they're both coming off of losses. 996 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 2: But that doesn't really tell the story. Angela Hill is 997 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 2: coming off of the Claudia Gadelia loss, a fight I 998 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 2: thought she won, and if she had won that, I 999 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 2: think it'll be four in a row for her. She 1000 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: has never looked better in her career. She's never had 1001 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 2: more confidence, She has an unending gas tank. She has 1002 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: really turned into a well rounded talent. She has come 1003 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 2: into her own in the last year year and a 1004 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 2: half or so, and it's been amazing to watch. And 1005 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 2: she's had a little bit of time off since that 1006 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 2: last fight, and this is her chance to get back 1007 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 2: into that winter circle that she should have still been 1008 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 2: in my view after her last contest. So her stock 1009 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 2: is going this way despite coming off the loss. Michelle Watterson, 1010 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 2: on the other hand, coming off of two losses in 1011 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: a row, neither of them where she looked particularly great. 1012 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 2: She had to win in twenty nineteen over kroly Nikobo Keevich, 1013 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 2: but to me. This was a person who had a 1014 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 2: lot of promise. Though granted she's a natural kind of 1015 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: Adam weight, or least she was for a time, maybe 1016 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 2: not anymore, but she was repped by WME. She was 1017 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 2: sort of seen as somebody who in that same kind 1018 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 2: of vain as like Holly Holm and other fighters the 1019 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 2: UFC could build up to really do special things. And 1020 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 2: she's had a good career, to be clear, but I 1021 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,760 Speaker 2: don't know if she's ever going to fulfill that potential. 1022 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 2: She's not getting any younger. I love this contest. I 1023 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 2: favor hell to win it because you've got two people 1024 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 2: going in opposite directions for very surprising and unexpected ways. 1025 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, Waterson's the old name A side or B side, 1026 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 1: depending on where you want to go at this point, 1027 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: to hold the main event. Up. I love this fight. Look, 1028 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: this fight wasn't it supposed to be Maheta and Grover Luke? 1029 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah that was the Grover. Yes, Elmo was going to 1030 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: be cornering him. 1031 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. Unfortunately we have to delay and wait 1032 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: for that. There were people going, you know, what the 1033 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: hell's going on? 1034 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 2: Here? 1035 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: Is this UFC's worst man it? Well, no, this is 1036 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: better than Calvio. I I even almost like this better 1037 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: than oveream Sakaia on paper, and I know that's because 1038 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: women's strawweight always delivers. I like to see what this 1039 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: fight could look like over five rounds, and for all 1040 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: those things you mentioned, it did seem like when Waterson 1041 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: lost to Jouan a couple of years back, that that 1042 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: was it in terms of is she ever going to 1043 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: be a legitimate title contender. She poured it out. She 1044 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough in that moment. Still a name still 1045 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 1: can make fun fights. I think the storyline surrounds whether 1046 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 1: Hill can win this and turn it around from being 1047 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: that busy journey woman to somebody who's figured out how 1048 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: great she can be in her thirties. 1049 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 2: Here. 1050 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: By the way, she's also very good on camera as 1051 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: an analyst Angela Hill in that first option that ESPN 1052 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: gave her, So that was good to see as well. 1053 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: So a little bit of somebody who looks like they're 1054 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: coming against somebody they're going it's at one fifteen. I 1055 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,359 Speaker 1: got a big smile on my face. This is this 1056 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,919 Speaker 1: is good. Card not good around it, This fight good. 1057 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: I like it. 1058 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 2: We go to Belatore, which has not one but two 1059 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 2: cards over the weekend. Belatore two forty five, Belatore two 1060 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 2: forty six. Both of these, of course will be the 1061 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 2: Mohegan Sun Arena. You see a lot of different moving 1062 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 2: parts here. Leslie Smith is at two forty five. That 1063 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 2: the card, not the weight obviously. Ed Ruth is at 1064 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 2: middleweight on this card, which is kind of interesting. Raymond 1065 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 2: Daniel is the famous kickboxer, and kat Zingano is on 1066 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 2: that card. Phil Davis versus Little Michiita two on two 1067 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,439 Speaker 2: forty five. What's your favorite fight on there? 1068 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: Gorilla is coming out there right, that's six. 1069 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,439 Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second. But the ones 1070 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 2: I just mentioned. 1071 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 1: You know, look, I like Machida Davis too. I'm in 1072 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: on that. I'm down with that. That's my kind of 1073 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,479 Speaker 1: cup of tea. Here after their their first fight, which 1074 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: was back in like twenty thirteen, so I'm into here. 1075 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: Austin Vanderford. By the way, Luke, the guy with the 1076 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 1: worst tattoo of all time, pulled out of this car 1077 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,760 Speaker 1: with COVID and he also gave it to his wife. 1078 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: PVZ So pour one out poor A little bit of 1079 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: my hemp infused seltzer kalo out to the uh the 1080 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: Vanderfords over that one? 1081 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 2: Luke? 1082 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: All right, but yeah, look I like I like both 1083 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: of these cards. You know, do I want Bellator to 1084 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: make these one spectacular card rather than two consecutive nights. 1085 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: I've argued that in the past, But I like this 1086 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: Machieta Davis fight just as much as I like the 1087 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: Saturday night main event for the for the vacant title. 1088 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 2: I don't know how much I love the idea of 1089 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 2: ed Ruth at middleweight. I don't know what the circumstances 1090 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 2: are that put him there. And again, sometimes folks be like, oh, 1091 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,280 Speaker 2: this claim you're making is not true. No, it's very true. 1092 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 2: Ask anybody who specializes in NCAA wrestling. Ed Ruth is 1093 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 2: one of the top ten wrestlers irrespective of weight class 1094 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 2: in collegiate wrestling. Ever, that is how Gooble was an 1095 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 2: unbelievably good wrestler. 1096 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 5: But he had a Are you gonna put them up 1097 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 5: there with Gable? Who are you gonna put him in? 1098 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,760 Speaker 5: Dan gab Dan Gable? You know Dan Gable? 1099 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 2: Yes, he would be considered one of the top ten 1100 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 2: of all time. Carl Sanderson, well all one time. Kyle 1101 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 2: Dake would be another one. John Smith will be another one. 1102 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 2: Hold on, let me get this point out. All I'm 1103 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 2: pointing out is he he's a couple of losses, one 1104 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 2: to Emon Gracie and a fantastic fight still relatively early 1105 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 2: in his career, and then he had a set back 1106 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 2: in his last contest against uroslav Amasov and folks don't 1107 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 2: know that name for some reason. I don't know what 1108 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 2: Beltore is doing with him. He is an amazing welterweight talent, 1109 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 2: He's undefeated and he beat ed Ruth. I'm thinking to myself, 1110 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 2: why would he not be promoted? He was on the 1111 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 2: prelims I think of the last card he was on. 1112 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 2: So I don't know what's going on with that, but 1113 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 2: just suffice to say, I want to see ed Ruth 1114 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 2: maximize his potential. I don't know that it's at middleweight, 1115 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 2: but I'm curious about that. So BC, you brought it up. 1116 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 2: Two forty six will be the next night. You've got 1117 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 2: one Archieletta for the bantamweight title against Patchy Mixed. I 1118 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 2: great easily easily the best fire of the weekend, irrespective 1119 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: of organization. Number One, you got John Fisch against Demon 1120 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 2: Gracie that's a fun fight. Liz Carmusch against Diana Bennett. 1121 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 2: She's making her bell to Our debut at women's flyweight, 1122 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 2: and then Derek Campos is on this card as well. 1123 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,439 Speaker 2: Why were you so high on the guerrilla fight? 1124 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: No, I was just dropping that in I look, I'm 1125 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: down for her and Kats and Goana making their their 1126 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: Belatour debuts here in much further apart separate weight classes, 1127 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: one at a flyweight, one at featherweight. I did give 1128 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,839 Speaker 1: you a weird face on the Nieman Gracie John Fitch fight. 1129 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: It has the potential to be interesting, especially if you're 1130 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 1: a hardcore fan. It also has the potential to look like, 1131 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, Showtime Red Shoe Diaries in the nineties. You 1132 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 1133 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 2: Wasn't that? 1134 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: But back to that main event, Luke, Look, I'm really 1135 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: excited Archiletta bangs, but obviously I want to find out 1136 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: how great Patchy Mix can be. He's had spectacular submission 1137 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: victories in Bellatour and it feels like they're matching him quick. 1138 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: But for a reason here, this is a good ass 1139 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: fight for the vacant feather title. 1140 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 2: Correct. I love that? Yes, No, vacant. Bansam vacant because 1141 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 2: it was supposed to be Hora Gucci, but that whole 1142 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 2: thing blew up. So here's what I would say. This 1143 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 2: is on paper. Now in the end, we don't know 1144 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 2: if it's going to deliver, but on paper, this is 1145 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 2: the best fight of the weekend by a country mile. 1146 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 2: Why aren't you? Letta is He's not a devastating finisher, 1147 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 2: but he has tons of experience and he really kind 1148 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 2: of knows how to manage around to his strengths, which 1149 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: are sort of in and out movement, a lot of 1150 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 2: circling on the outside. Not necessarily the most exciting at 1151 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 2: all times, but very difficult to beat. Patchy Mix is 1152 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 2: one of these guys who is just an absolute gaior 1153 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 2: in terms of, you know, grabbing onto an opponent and 1154 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 2: holding on with submissions unbelievable, full of confidence. He can 1155 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 2: strike himself by the way, he's pretty good in that. 1156 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 2: So you've got this guy who's like all aggressive, all finishing, 1157 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,439 Speaker 2: who doesn't have as much experience as the guy who's 1158 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 2: somewhat of the opposite. Really gonna be interesting to see 1159 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 2: who can impose their will there. I love this file 1160 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 2: of everything about it and I sort of can't wait 1161 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 2: to see it. 1162 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 1: So those girl Rilla a marine Luke, she was girl? 1163 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 2: That's right. 1164 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 1: You have you ever talked shop with her? Have you 1165 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: ever dropped a little semper fi on top of her? 1166 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: I have? 1167 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 2: We've done that many times. As a matter of fact, 1168 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 2: I saw her. No, I didn't see her in DC. 1169 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 2: But the last time I saw her, oh was that 1170 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 2: I can't remember, but yet we talked about it a 1171 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 2: few times. 1172 00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: Do you think you could have passed her guard? 1173 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 2: I think you're weird And I don't know why you 1174 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 2: want to join Jay in the Starbucks bathroom. But for 1175 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 2: that being what it is, just. 1176 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: JA be angry. Jay's pissed off today. 1177 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 2: Jay is real better. Let's do this. Let's do DMS 1178 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 2: from Donks your time to ask his questions? He is better, 1179 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 2: by the way, all right, let's do this from at 1180 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 2: James Underscore whitworth? Now the dust has settled on the fight? 1181 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 2: What do you do next with Marlon Vera? Could you 1182 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 2: make an Aldo fight BC? Or does he need another win? 1183 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 1: Look, it's a tight it's a crowded title picture. He 1184 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: announced himself as legit obviously with that win over Sugar 1185 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: Shan O'Malley, you know, the and all theough fight would 1186 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 1: be very fun, It would be incredibly entertaining, and it 1187 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 1: would offer Marlon Vera the opportunity to probably get you know, 1188 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 1: arguably even more fame than he did in a pay 1189 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: per view co main event against O'Malley. Because this is 1190 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: a perfect main event for a night. I really like 1191 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: that matchmaking. I probably would would not have come out 1192 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: with that if you asked me who we should fight next, 1193 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 1: but whether it be Aldo, Cruz, Faber, what have you. 1194 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: You know, Edgar, You've got some old names right now 1195 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: in this division that you can really use to sell, 1196 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, main event slots and get eyes on the TV, 1197 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: and any one of those would be perfect to give 1198 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: Marlon Vera the potential to prove even more that he 1199 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: belongs in that upper ilk with the you know, the Yawns, 1200 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,959 Speaker 1: the San Haagans, the Sterlings, all those. 1201 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't hate that fight, but the problem is 1202 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 2: where he's ranked. So he's sitting Marlin at fifteen, which 1203 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 2: sounds to me like the people ranking him gave him 1204 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 2: like begrudging respect for beating O'Malley and then in front of. 1205 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: Him you go fifteen he's won like five out of six. 1206 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: How is he fifteen? 1207 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 2: Well, the person in front of him at fourteen the 1208 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,760 Speaker 2: song you Dong who technically beat him Aldough controversially, here's 1209 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,320 Speaker 2: the problem that he's facing. You've got Cruz at eleven, 1210 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 2: stament at twelve, and I think you would agree with this. 1211 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 2: You've got a very deserving thirteen. And Morob Devolashvili, Ordawallashwheeley. 1212 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 2: He kind of deserves to have an opportunity as well. 1213 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 2: I mean, Marlon does too. They all kind of do. 1214 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 2: I'm just saying the idea that like, do I like 1215 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 2: a Chito Vera versus Josie Aldo fight? Yes? I do? 1216 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 2: Could I claim without any debate that that's the most 1217 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 2: that he's the one that deserves that fight the most. No, No, 1218 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 2: I can't actually do that. That's the problem, all right, 1219 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 2: from you? 1220 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: Do you? 1221 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 2: No? No, we got to move along. Jay is gonna 1222 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 2: have a conniption fit. We gotta move along. At Scotty fourteen, 1223 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 2: hy which fighter's longevity has surprised you based on their 1224 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 2: fighting style and damage they've taken. Robbie Lawler's got to 1225 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 2: be one, right. 1226 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has. And but you can see now that 1227 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 1: it seems like it's past him, and we had that 1228 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 1: discussion after his loss to Magny, which was lifeless. I mean, 1229 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,439 Speaker 1: overhim is is hugely in this discussion because of how 1230 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: many knockout losses and again the absolute brutality. Dan Henderson 1231 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: was another one, Luke, where you know, he lingered in 1232 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: areas where you just didn't think he could still win 1233 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 1: fights and not uh, you know, be eating out of 1234 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: a straw unfortunately, and he was able to do that 1235 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 1: anyone else. Jumping out to you, I feel like Joanna 1236 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: has that potential on the female side. 1237 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's one, Anderson Silva's I mean I did a 1238 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 2: thing on Twitter. How many fighters have professional bouts that 1239 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,439 Speaker 2: pre date nine to eleven? Overream had ten, Lawler had three? 1240 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 2: Excuse me, Overham had eight, I think, and then the 1241 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 2: Spider had ten something like that. But you know, both 1242 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 2: Overream and Anderson Silva had just you know, a double 1243 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 2: nearly double digits for both of them. There must be 1244 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 2: other ones as well. Those are the ones you're like, 1245 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 2: if you were fighting before nine to eleven and you're 1246 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 2: still fighting, chances you have she Gun's another one. Yeah, 1247 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 2: they've got something going there. 1248 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: Would you say, Showguns title loss to John was the 1249 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: worst beating someone's taken in a title fight, like no 1250 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: staying one side, Wait stain beating No. 1251 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 2: David Louazzo's lost to Rich Franklin was worse, much worse. 1252 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: Oh good, good, poll there, Luke, I like that all right? 1253 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 2: All right? From at Cubbies Fan eighty alright, BC, what 1254 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 2: is your mount Rushmore of best rap albums of all time? 1255 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: I love this. I love this all right, So, Luke, 1256 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: I have to I have to simplify this. Are you 1257 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 1: asking me what I think should be on the Rushmore 1258 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: of the greatest or my personal favorite? 1259 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 2: I think this argument where like, oh what is the 1260 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 2: best is dumb? Just tell me what your favorites are? 1261 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: All right? How about I split the gap. I'll kind 1262 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 1: of merge the two together. My mount Rushmore of rap 1263 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: albums goes like this. The Low End Theory by the 1264 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: Trip Call Quest is my favorite of all time, and 1265 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: I think it is one million percent. In that discussion 1266 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: Ready to Die by Biggie Nothing you know nothing more 1267 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: to say right there? All Eyes on Me by Tupac, 1268 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: I hugely stand behind and I was late in the 1269 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: game really appreciating that double album and what it does 1270 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: for me. And with the fourth one, Luke, I mean 1271 00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: I could go a lot of directions. I was never 1272 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 1: a huge nas guy, full respect, never a huge wootang guy, 1273 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 1: but full respect out there. Can I go paid in 1274 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: full by Eric being rock him? I still bang that thing. 1275 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean it just you know, I mean thinking I'm 1276 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,920 Speaker 1: a master plan. I mean I just I absolutely love 1277 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 1: that thing, top to bottom, front to back. Shout out 1278 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 1: honorable mention to a nineties rap album. Yes, it came 1279 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: during the hugely commercial era where white guys in seventh 1280 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: grade like me are watching new MTV raps bying the cassettes. 1281 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: But A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing by Black Sheep is 1282 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: a freaking fantastic album. Yeah, tiptoes into the comedy genre 1283 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: a bit, but that thing is of that ilk and 1284 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: no one ever, ever ever brings that one up. 1285 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 2: I will go and again, I don't. I don't put 1286 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 2: this as like these are the four best, These are 1287 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 2: just for These are just ones that I just constantly 1288 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 2: go back to, constantly go back to. All Right, So 1289 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 2: I will say ill maatic nos, Yes, hell yeah, I 1290 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 2: will say I'll go a little bit different than you 1291 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 2: would just for the purpose of fun, I will say 1292 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 2: the chronic doctor Dre That one had a big impact 1293 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 2: on my youth. 1294 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 1: That could be number one on any of any our age, 1295 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: any of us our age. That could be and maybe 1296 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: even should be number one. I mean seriously, like that 1297 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: was you, dude. That had almost a Nirvana type effect 1298 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: on like the people in my life circle like it. 1299 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 1: You remember what what music listening was like before and 1300 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: after that that one came. 1301 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 2: Out, So that one is big again. This is just 1302 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 2: a personal favorite of mine. I don't expect anyone to 1303 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 2: agree with this. I'm gonna go Purple Haze by Cameron. 1304 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite albums. I listened to it 1305 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 2: front to back. It's just so good. And then, last 1306 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,919 Speaker 2: but not least, I'll do God of the SERENGETI Vinie 1307 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 2: Paz again. 1308 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 1: Guys, you just love yourself some Vinnie pas. 1309 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 2: He's fucking do that. That album is a masterpiece. You know, 1310 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 2: it's a certain kind of rap that you have to like, 1311 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 2: but that one. How many rap albums have nearly twenty 1312 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 2: tracks and you can listen to it front to back. 1313 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 2: I mean it's almost unheard of. And that's what that 1314 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 2: album is it's it's it's outrageously good, and I just 1315 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 2: don't feel like he gets the credit it deserves. But 1316 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 2: you know, I'll give one. Here was one that was 1317 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 2: big in my youth because I was big into the 1318 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 2: whole gangster rap thing. Obviously, white kid, you know, uh, 1319 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 2: it's on one in seven Killer. The easy answer to 1320 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 2: the chronic. 1321 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: Is that one. 1322 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean even down to the last roach, 1323 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 2: which was the final track on that album, was so 1324 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 2: it was just such a good album. Also, East nineteen 1325 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 2: ninety nine Bone Thugs and Harmony is another one I 1326 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 2: just pumped constantly. 1327 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta throw out Midnight Midnight Marauders by Tribe. 1328 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: Obviously it is right in that discussion as well. 1329 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 2: That and you have to go a Quemini Outcast is 1330 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 2: another one that is just outrageously good. 1331 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 1: Do you do you stand by I know it's a 1332 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 1: little bit more into pop and R and B, but 1333 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: do you stand by the either the fujis the score 1334 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: or the miseducation of Lauren Hill as being in this discussion. 1335 01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 2: I cannot deny how impactful they were. I can not 1336 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 2: deny how talented Lauren Hill is, and I won't. I'll 1337 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 2: just say, it didn't speak to me like other works 1338 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 2: of art at that time spoke to me. So I 1339 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 2: cannot trash it, and I won't trash it. It just 1340 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 2: I didn't feel the same way about it. 1341 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: You know, it still speaks to me. The freaking Cactus 1342 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: album by Third Base and the day that that Prime Yeah, no, 1343 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 1: that well, that was on the follow up. But the 1344 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 1: day that Prime Minister Pete and Ice and uh and 1345 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 1: and the whole crew followed me on Twitter was was uh, 1346 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 1: it was one of the biggest days of my life. 1347 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I mean I was like glowing Luke. 1348 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: It was at the time William Zabka, right, the bad 1349 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: guy from Karate Kid, when he followed me on Twitter. Now, 1350 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 1: that was a life changing moment. 1351 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 2: How about Black Sunday by Cypress Hill. That's another one 1352 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 2: you could put up there. Black Sunday was an incredible 1353 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 2: you know, cock the Hammer was just I mean I 1354 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 2: played that one on rotation. But all right, we got 1355 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 2: to move along from at t dot Elliott BC. If 1356 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 2: Luke and Brian had to escape from No Escape, what 1357 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 2: would they do to distract Jay? Jay? Are you still 1358 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 2: better at us? Or can we answer this question? 1359 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Jay, What the hell's wrong with you today? Jay? 1360 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Do you have a date after this? Why are you 1361 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 1: trying to get us out of here? 1362 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 4: No? No, no, no date? 1363 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 3: They spill no escape wrong and there's an X in there. 1364 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,439 Speaker 4: It's it's no X. Kate. 1365 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh wow? Did you go to. 1366 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 2: Whose idea was that? 1367 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 4: Uh? I don't think. I don't think I can take 1368 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,680 Speaker 4: the credit for that. 1369 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Did you have your own lou perlman that was sleeping 1370 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 1: with you? 1371 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 4: We did, We did, we, we did it. 1372 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 3: His name was uh Ron Johnson from Philadelphia. 1373 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 4: He was he was lou Perlman. 1374 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 1: That's he was a fake name, by the way, but 1375 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 1: of course it was Ron Johnson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1376 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 3: He would take money from us, like every couple of weeks, uh, 1377 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 3: you know, in exchange for some musical services that I 1378 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 3: still don't know what they are. 1379 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 4: Musical services. 1380 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: Escape big on the on the Mitzvah circuit loop they 1381 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: were they were killing it. They were slaves, all right. 1382 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 2: You know. 1383 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 4: I wish I could laugh. But we weren't big on 1384 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:04,120 Speaker 4: any circuit. 1385 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 3: We didn't even That's how that's how low we were 1386 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 3: in a total poll. We didn't even make the bot 1387 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 3: Mitzvah circuit, although it was playing good money in that 1388 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 3: it's probably. 1389 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 2: No Hava Nogila covers anything like that. 1390 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 3: No, although it would have been quite appropriate given the 1391 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 3: ethnicity of most of our numbers. 1392 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, look, come on, you know we respect respect 1393 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 1: the tribe here. 1394 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 2: Look, okay, I am, I am, I was just I'm 1395 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 2: sure it was uh, you know, uh, whenever I've been 1396 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 2: to Barmits has never been to a botments with but 1397 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 2: just the same thing girls. 1398 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hey, you know what, you know what would 1399 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 1: distract Jay? I don't know if you Luke, if you 1400 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 1: were on the uh the Jamal Charlow conference call a 1401 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 1: couple weeks back to promote the September twenty sixth pay 1402 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 1: per view. In his damn dining room, he had a 1403 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,720 Speaker 1: the Back to the Future card Jay's boner. 1404 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 4: That's a Delorian DeLorean DMC twelve. Yeah, he did. 1405 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 3: And and the interesting part is I I had seen 1406 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 3: a video prior a few years ago with him like 1407 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,960 Speaker 3: with that some like music video he made of himself 1408 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 3: which was really weird, and didn't realize that he actually 1409 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 3: had like a like a little actual full sized car 1410 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,919 Speaker 3: ornament that just lives in his dining room full time. 1411 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: It's silver under Luke. And if Jay asked Jamal Charlo, 1412 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 1: if he's seen Jay's documentary back in Time. 1413 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 2: I'll take the over. I don't know, I don't know 1414 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 2: what the odds are, but I'll take the over. Thank you. 1415 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 3: I actually, I actually think he hasn't seen it, so 1416 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 3: I refuse to ask, because if he hasn't seen either 1417 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,919 Speaker 3: that or back to the future and has the car, 1418 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 3: it would just be bad, all. 1419 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 2: Right to distra Thank you, Jack. Thank This is coming 1420 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 2: to a screeching halt, so let's move it along. To 1421 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 2: answer the question, BC, this is very easy. What would 1422 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 2: I do to distract Jay? I would just put up 1423 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 2: a mirror. He can look into it, and as he 1424 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 2: just begins to admire himself, I'll just be on my way. 1425 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 1: The man does have a quest for fame, and I 1426 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: give him. You know, I applaud that, all right? One day? 1427 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 2: One day? All right? All right? Last but not least 1428 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 2: from and VIC settle the debate, BC, what is this show? 1429 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,919 Speaker 2: What are we doing with our lives? I can't believe 1430 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 2: put my other job for this, all right, standing versus 1431 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 2: sitting to clean your rear end. Also, any accoutrement such as. 1432 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 1: To wipe above age four. 1433 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 2: Luke, your boy what, Yes, yes, I feel like I 1434 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 2: feel like it's the best way to get fully clean. 1435 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: This is the worst. 1436 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 5: This is the worst thing ever happened to our gross 1437 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 5: And yes, your boy keeps the wet wipes on hand 1438 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 5: for all occasions. 1439 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 2: I got some in the car, I got some on 1440 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 2: my backpack, I got some in the bathroom. Wet wipes 1441 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 2: are I didn't use wet wipes still. I got to 1442 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 2: the Marine Corps and we would be in the field 1443 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 2: so long you'd have to shower with him, because you go, 1444 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 2: you go weeks or months without without a shower. And 1445 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 2: I was like, why, are pretty handy? And now I 1446 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 2: keep w wipes wherever I go. 1447 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 1: The wait for what though like to clean the like 1448 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:08,479 Speaker 1: if you got swamp ass, but. 1449 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 2: You might like walking around with an itchy rear end. 1450 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 2: I like being pristine clean down there, and so I 1451 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 2: like to make sure I get the job done very effectively. 1452 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: God, Jay, where are you where we need you? 1453 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:22,599 Speaker 3: Jay? 1454 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:23,519 Speaker 1: Please seriously? 1455 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know this is this is a much better 1456 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 3: question than the last one. I see, We've really gone. 1457 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,719 Speaker 1: I have ever used a bidet, Luke I've had hotel 1458 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 1: rooms with them. I've never I don't really like things. Yeah, 1459 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 1: you get you get where I'm going with that. Have 1460 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:37,400 Speaker 1: you ever used one. 1461 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,519 Speaker 2: Luke one time and didn't like it? Okay? 1462 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: Okay, wow, that's you know, it's rare when I'm yeah, yeah, okay, 1463 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 1: thank you. That's it. 1464 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,200 Speaker 2: That's it. Well, you know what, that's the best question 1465 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 2: to lead us into our next segment, where I'm sure 1466 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,719 Speaker 2: we're gonna watch people drink out of bidets or something. 1467 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 2: Take it away, BC, All right, here's what we do, Luke. 1468 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: We scour the globe for the good, bad, and the 1469 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 1: ugly in combat sports and beyond it is. Have you 1470 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 1: seen this shit, Luke? We always start off professional with 1471 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 1: real fights. Did you see on the top rank undercard 1472 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 1: over the weekend Heavyweight Prospect Jared Big Baby Anderson stopping 1473 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Rodney Hernandez. But watched the celebration as he improves to 1474 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 1: six and zero with six KOs You like this, Luke? 1475 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 1: Kick the tires on him. 1476 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 2: A little bit? No, No, that's what the dog does 1477 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,080 Speaker 2: after he takes a dump. 1478 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,760 Speaker 1: How many fighters do we need name Big Baby? By 1479 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 1: the way, you know, yeah, right, you. 1480 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 2: Can only be named Big Baby if you're willing to 1481 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,440 Speaker 2: take horse steroids. 1482 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,640 Speaker 1: All right, there it is, shout out to Jared Anderson 1483 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 1: with the stoppage. There, let's move on. I don't know 1484 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 1: the names of these fighters, but I'm sure Chattree will 1485 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 1: tell us that they've been the most watched fight in 1486 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 1: Asian history one championship. 1487 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 5: We got a mohawk down, mohawk down the good Lord Mannikin. 1488 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 2: Oh well, the fun fact we see this fight was 1489 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 2: watched by thirty billion people. 1490 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,639 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, thank you very much. 1491 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 2: There. 1492 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, uh, you've been sent to a hell mohawked friend. Wow. Okay, here, 1493 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 1: let's go on, Luke. You know people still clamor for 1494 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 1: the just bleaed days of open weight MMA. I don't 1495 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 1: know why. Look at Louis Anderson is having a tough 1496 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,640 Speaker 1: time catching up with uh with boom kellher there? What 1497 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,920 Speaker 1: are we doing here? And why are people up against 1498 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: the fence? 1499 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 2: Dude? It Legit looks like he's trying to eat him. 1500 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't see this fight lasting more than ten seconds. Luke, 1501 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:37,600 Speaker 1: all right, you know what I'm saying. Let's do. 1502 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 2: After he was interviewed, was he like chie Walker two 1503 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 2: knockoff soul rules? 1504 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it does look like like the beginning of 1505 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,799 Speaker 1: a return of the Jedi when Luke Skywalker was trapped 1506 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 1: against that rank corps. Yeah, yeah, this is what that 1507 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:50,840 Speaker 1: looks like. 1508 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 2: Lea's gonna come out and choke this dude with the chains. 1509 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not making two seventy five for Dana. But 1510 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,600 Speaker 1: there's a reason why we don't do open weight mismanaged 1511 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 1: fact guy fights. Can we move on? 1512 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 2: Jay? And uh? 1513 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 1: This is the reason, Luke, because the little people tend 1514 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:10,719 Speaker 1: to get their soul crush. Check out Biggins here? Uh wow, yikes? 1515 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 1: Is that Conan Sylvieira? Wow? All right, that's yep, that's 1516 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 1: a ko Luke. That is okay. 1517 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,919 Speaker 2: You know what a big boy here is reasonably talented? 1518 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: You think so I don't know about this? 1519 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:25,720 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, a little bit. 1520 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 1: You know what he probably knows about the biggie bag 1521 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 1: at Wendy's, the best on you know, the best kept 1522 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 1: secret in all of fast food. Look, you ever rock 1523 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 1: out that? 1524 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 2: I've never even heard of that? What is that? 1525 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 1: All right? Here's the quick, quick deal on this. You know, 1526 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 1: I have a fast food fix like anybody else. If 1527 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 1: you go to Wendy's in order like a hungry man's meal. 1528 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna spend like eleven bucks. It is what it 1529 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 1: is in twenty twenty. Right, if you're like, let me 1530 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 1: get like the classic single, the fries, let me get 1531 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 1: a sixer of nuggets, let me get a drink. But 1532 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: if you read the menu in the bottom right corner, 1533 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 1: very small print, they change it every week. The Biggie 1534 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 1: bag for five dollars plus tax, you get like chicken sandwich, fries, 1535 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,759 Speaker 1: chicken nuggets, and a large drink. Like then then sometimes 1536 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 1: it'll be like cheeseburger. It's like five different things luke 1537 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 1: for like five bucks. It's a it's an absolute killer deal. 1538 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,040 Speaker 2: All right, where are you? Where are you on the 1539 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 2: Do you put fries in the frosty or not? 1540 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 3: Oh? 1541 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I don't get the frosty though, because it's 1542 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 1: annoying because you can't drive and I want to consume 1543 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 1: this as I'm moving. 1544 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 2: Right, Fries in the frosty is what people do before 1545 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 2: joining Nazi sympathizing groups. So just want to tell you 1546 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 2: what trajectory you're on. 1547 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 1: Stand and use like a baby wipe to caress your 1548 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,679 Speaker 1: your your Yeah. 1549 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 2: If you had, if you had explosive diary as much 1550 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,280 Speaker 2: as I did, you'd understand that necessity. 1551 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 1: Wow. Hey, we had a good run with this show, Luke. Sorry, sorry, 1552 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,640 Speaker 1: we signed you to CBS. Look, you're big tennis fan, 1553 01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: by your chance. 1554 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 2: The US Open is upon a little bit, a little bit, 1555 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 2: a little bit. 1556 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:56,960 Speaker 4: Number one in the world. 1557 01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic was de cued. Uh what is it, Luke 1558 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 1: for accidentally dropping this lady? What happened here? 1559 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 2: For not just a lady, that's a line Judge number 1560 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,919 Speaker 2: one and number two. You're not like, even if it's accidentals, 1561 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 2: they're treated with such like reverence and gloves off kind 1562 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 2: of thing. You know, gloves on, honest, suspect is better, 1563 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,840 Speaker 2: but you know, yeah, dude, and hit her and you 1564 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,840 Speaker 2: can't quite sol from this. But after it was over, 1565 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 2: she was like grabbing her throat, like she got hit 1566 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,000 Speaker 2: in the throat with this thing. Dude. 1567 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 1: She took a worse fault. Remember when Rodman kicked that 1568 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 1: camera guy and then he pretended like you couldn't walk 1569 01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 1: and he sued him for millions Remember that in ninety six. 1570 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 1: This is this all over again. So I don't know 1571 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,560 Speaker 1: if you saw, but tennis fans were so angry that 1572 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 1: they sent this lady death threats and they like were 1573 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 1: mocking her dead son. Like it got ugly. But how 1574 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,200 Speaker 1: the hell is this a DQ? Look, it wasn't on purpose. 1575 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 2: Come on, bro, tennis is I mean, here's what I've noticed. 1576 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 2: Look at their sponsors. You've got Chase Manhattan, the the 1577 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,800 Speaker 2: net is sponsored by Rolex. You got a real airline there, dude, 1578 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 2: is like high society ship. If you have corn nuts, 1579 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,600 Speaker 2: you know, and Monster Energy and uh man, well you know, 1580 01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 2: like condom depot kind of stuff, then you can get 1581 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 2: away with flagrant, you know, misbehavior. But if you're gonna 1582 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,599 Speaker 2: be sponsored by Rolex, you kind of gotta be uptight. 1583 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 1: Dynamic Fashioners online one, Luke, who was your your nineties 1584 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,679 Speaker 1: tennis female crush? Everybody had one, right, I mean, besides 1585 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,920 Speaker 1: besides the Queen, besides uh you know, besides the. 1586 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,760 Speaker 2: Who was the girl with the big forehead who kind 1587 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 2: of washed out. 1588 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, besides Cornakova, besides the Goddess the Greatest. 1589 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't corner Cova. It was another one. It 1590 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,759 Speaker 2: was a It was a it was a brown hair 1591 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 2: Martina Hingis, Yeah, I think that was her name. Yeah, 1592 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 2: she was kind of more my my speed. But you know, 1593 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,280 Speaker 2: marsh Man crush, it's got to be Pete Samples right. 1594 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,040 Speaker 1: It is a hairy dude. He did, you know? 1595 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 3: He was? 1596 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, right enough enough he did. He banged Veronica Vaughan 1597 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 1: from Billy Madison shot out to that. Hey, let's move 1598 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 1: on here, Luke, before Jay quits the show this week 1599 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,360 Speaker 1: in drunk people, Luke, check out this keg Stan? What 1600 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: do you how are you gonna score this keg Stan 1601 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,120 Speaker 1: on a ten to nine months system scale? Here, Luke, 1602 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,960 Speaker 1: let's see Johnny be good. He's doing well so far, 1603 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,120 Speaker 1: doing well. He made the landing. Oh no, no, no, 1604 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:23,759 Speaker 1: go on, stop it, Frank, you can stop it at anytime. Wow, 1605 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 1: look what happened here. 1606 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 2: That's like one of those delayed things where the ref 1607 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 2: didn't step in because they couldn't quite tell he was done, 1608 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:32,720 Speaker 2: and then by the time they did, it was too late. 1609 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 3: You know. 1610 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh God, then Hendo's landing one more punch on Bisman. Yeah, 1611 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 1: all right, let's move on here. I've been trying to 1612 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 1: track this video down for a while. This is great 1613 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 1: when I jump from the roof to a motor home roof, Luke, 1614 01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:45,439 Speaker 1: you gotta be careful. 1615 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:50,599 Speaker 2: She got real cocky. 1616 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,439 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that is uh. 1617 01:15:54,840 --> 01:16:01,240 Speaker 2: She lands on one oh wow, and then the roof 1618 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 2: is all wet bock. Yeah, but you know what she landed. 1619 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,639 Speaker 2: She landed just fine on the ground. 1620 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 1: Where is there, Luke? You've been to like these public 1621 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,679 Speaker 1: parking lot shit show drunk fests, right. 1622 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see. Based on the way she's dressed, I'm 1623 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:23,559 Speaker 2: gonna say this is not the South, although it might be. Yeah, 1624 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,560 Speaker 2: you know what, let me take that back. This is 1625 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,599 Speaker 2: like Mississippi or Louisiana more than It's like more than 1626 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 2: Alabama or Georgia, you know. 1627 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, here's the drunk MVP of the week here, Luke. 1628 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,439 Speaker 1: Give me a shot of whiskey. Would you like it 1629 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 1: in your mouth? No, I'll take it right up the nose, Luke? 1630 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 1: How bad does this hurt? Oh god? What does that 1631 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 1: feel like? 1632 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 2: Luke? I don't know, but now I'm curious? 1633 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 1: Would you do that on camera for us? 1634 01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 2: Here? 1635 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 1: It e. 1636 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 2: I have to talk to my medical doctor first because 1637 01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:58,640 Speaker 2: my nose doesn't work, as you know. 1638 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,960 Speaker 1: But oh god, that's gotta hurt. Give me the give 1639 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 1: me the COVID test where they scraped the brain stem 1640 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:06,720 Speaker 1: before I do. 1641 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,599 Speaker 2: Every time we do one of these drinking highlights. They're 1642 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,120 Speaker 2: always white. Have you noticed that? He was every time. 1643 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 1: White people take big chances in life, Luke, Apparently, all right, 1644 01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:20,639 Speaker 1: they use their they use their privilege for the wrong reasons. Apparently, Luke, 1645 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, but by the way, people 1646 01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 1: think you hate white people. Looke, I'm just telling you 1647 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 1: what the people of our show say. Let's move on here. 1648 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, these are also people who are joining boogoloo 1649 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 2: boy groups. 1650 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,120 Speaker 1: But okay, Luke, on the left is unbeating the UFC. 1651 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 1: Walterway comes at Chamaiev and on the right is Gustavson. 1652 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,880 Speaker 1: The heavyweight drops him with a body shot. I know 1653 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 1: what happens in sparring, stays in sparring. But Luke, he's 1654 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 1: out here dropping heavies. 1655 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,679 Speaker 2: Bro Is that to the balls? 1656 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,759 Speaker 1: No that I think that's to the to the bread basket? 1657 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 3: Right? Uh? Is that that? 1658 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:52,600 Speaker 2: That looks to me like this? 1659 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,040 Speaker 1: Hold on, I think he dropped him. 1660 01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,840 Speaker 2: I think, oh he might have. He might have. It's 1661 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 2: hard to tell. Yeah, but dude, in sparring, this is 1662 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,560 Speaker 2: not uncommon. It's not I've seen. I can't tell you 1663 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 2: how many guys I've seen high level get dropped by 1664 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,120 Speaker 2: lower weight class guys and then it comes fight night 1665 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:10,760 Speaker 2: and you don't see any of that shit, Like it 1666 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,240 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that much, all right, all right, that's. 1667 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 1: This is how the sausage gets made. This might be legal, 1668 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,640 Speaker 1: but here's what's not legal. Luke fame Mma seven in 1669 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,320 Speaker 1: Poland over the weekend. Check out my man, I'm a 1670 01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:27,560 Speaker 1: deis ferrari roastlick on the left. God damn god that 1671 01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:32,320 Speaker 1: he was disqualified obviously because he came out here like 1672 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 1: he was, like he was Matt Barr going for a 1673 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 1: twenty nine yard field goal here to win the nineteen 1674 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:43,679 Speaker 1: ninety NFC championship. Oh my god, sending Adrian Polanski to hell. Apparently, Luke, 1675 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,000 Speaker 1: this was only recently outlawed in Poland, and that's why 1676 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 1: he screwed up and did it. What the hell's going 1677 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:51,240 Speaker 1: on in that country? 1678 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,000 Speaker 2: Oh the Polish don't fuck around man, Jesus Christ. 1679 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,880 Speaker 1: First of all, that's a great punch to drop him, 1680 01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,760 Speaker 1: but then he's like, you know, let me just kill him, 1681 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:01,759 Speaker 1: let me just you want to see a dead. 1682 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 2: Body woom, and just punch this dude the other way 1683 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,559 Speaker 2: that is, I love the ads on their chest that's 1684 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 2: always high class. 1685 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: That is great, Luke. You do know what the greatest 1686 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,480 Speaker 1: strike in MMA history is, right w e C Twenty. 1687 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 2: Ten time right Pettish running off the fence. 1688 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's I know he lost that fight. People 1689 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 1: forget and I know this wasn't actually a knockout. 1690 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,960 Speaker 2: This was won this fight. Pettis won this fight. 1691 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 1: Oh he I thought Hendo won this fight. 1692 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,560 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Pretty sure Pettis won it. 1693 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 1: No, Henderson won this fight, bro, I'm going to double 1694 01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:34,560 Speaker 1: check that. 1695 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:39,519 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he won it. It's this, What's what's 1696 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 2: your point? 1697 01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,880 Speaker 1: This is the greatest fight in WEC history. Great fight, 1698 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,560 Speaker 1: great moment. People for years trying to recreate this, but 1699 01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 1: they just can't do it right here, Luke, I don't 1700 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 1: know if you saw on Saturday, your guy, the flying 1701 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:59,200 Speaker 1: Circus clown Michel Pededa tried this on uh IMADIAV. Not 1702 01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 1: not so well, Luke. Maybe he should take a one 1703 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,439 Speaker 1: more time on that. Yeah, okay, maybe he should take 1704 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,600 Speaker 1: a cue from random brother in the uh in the 1705 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,040 Speaker 1: living room. Check out this kid. He's got a future 1706 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:16,479 Speaker 1: in MMA, Luke. Look Spider Man out here climbing the walls. Bah, 1707 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 1: here's the here's the thing, Luke, that's only the second 1708 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,200 Speaker 1: best showtime kick of the week. Check out this goat. No, 1709 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,080 Speaker 1: not not John Jones, not Anderson Silva, an actual goat. 1710 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 2: Send this owner the hell, Luke, Yes, dude, that sheep 1711 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,639 Speaker 2: was like, fuck your life, son. 1712 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:45,680 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yes, that's the stuff we're here for on this. 1713 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 2: By the way, Anthony pet did win that fight? Are 1714 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:49,840 Speaker 2: you sure? 1715 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 1: Did I forget history there? 1716 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:52,680 Speaker 2: Or you forgot history? Yep? 1717 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 1: Okay, sorry about that, Luke. All Right, Luke, you know 1718 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,840 Speaker 1: our friend in Italy, the Greek god of thunder and graphics, uh, 1719 01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,800 Speaker 1: Christos krista force this week in webscream he was so 1720 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,439 Speaker 1: touched by Remember we asked you to name your favorite 1721 01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,880 Speaker 1: celebrity desks and you didn't name any celebrities last week, 1722 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 1: so he has hit you up with uh with this, Luke, 1723 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:12,640 Speaker 1: can we advance it? 1724 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 2: Jay? All right? 1725 01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,040 Speaker 1: Peter pour a kalo out for Carl Sagan here, Luke. Okay, 1726 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 1: that is for. 1727 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,640 Speaker 2: Folks who be it's Carl Sagan from he was the 1728 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 2: original host of Cosmos before the guy who hosted now 1729 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,080 Speaker 2: Neil deGrasse. Tyson. That's fun. 1730 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 1: I could see you sporting that here in like ten years, Luke, 1731 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:31,760 Speaker 1: that could actually. 1732 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 2: Be you turtleneck, you know, the whole bit. 1733 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm down with that, all right. Uh hey, Luke, 1734 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 1: here's the thing though, if you're gonna hire Spider Man 1735 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,000 Speaker 1: for your daughter's birthday party, you better get insurance. If 1736 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 1: this guy thinks he's an athlete, watch this. He's putting 1737 01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,639 Speaker 1: on a show for the kids. Grandma's there right there, 1738 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:57,360 Speaker 1: and then I don't think that was part of the program, Luke. 1739 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 2: The dad's not even sure he's okay, He's like, hey, man, 1740 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:03,360 Speaker 2: is this part of the actor? 1741 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? But I got the smelling salts? 1742 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:06,679 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1743 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow? All right. 1744 01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:13,400 Speaker 2: I love this bit because he goes from shadow boxing 1745 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:19,000 Speaker 2: badly to bad capalwera to bad gymnastics. 1746 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 1: It's basically he's the Michelle Paneda of childhood parties. Here. Look, 1747 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 1: can you just get the drunken clown like everybody else 1748 01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 1: had growing up? All right, let's move on. Hey, Look, 1749 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 1: we have so many Australian fans. I love and respect 1750 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,360 Speaker 1: these blokes, and they are filling my dms with some 1751 01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:40,439 Speaker 1: thunder from down Under. It's rugby league time. Chad Townsend 1752 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,440 Speaker 1: is about to send Kaylin Ponga to the depths of haites. 1753 01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,680 Speaker 1: Look good, lord. 1754 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, good, good thing. He's wearing a supermarket bag on 1755 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,320 Speaker 2: his head. That'll really protective head there. 1756 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,720 Speaker 1: Shout out to rugby league. I don't know what the 1757 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,400 Speaker 1: difference between regular rugby and rugby league is. I'm sure 1758 01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:04,000 Speaker 1: i'll get eighties MS explaining it. But these guys don't 1759 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 1: wear pads, they don't have souls. 1760 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:06,000 Speaker 2: This is great. 1761 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Let's move on to Austine rules football. Jack Viney in 1762 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,840 Speaker 1: need of the face here. I like some AFL these guys, Uh, 1763 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,200 Speaker 1: can I know the rules? I can get down with this. 1764 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,439 Speaker 1: Watched a lot of this growing up on ESPN too. 1765 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,640 Speaker 1: Luke watched this guy take a flying knee right to 1766 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:29,759 Speaker 1: the dome. Look at ben As Oh god, and these. 1767 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:30,840 Speaker 2: Haircuts, my lord? 1768 01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 1: Yeah wow, all right, Luke, we're closing down here. This 1769 01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,040 Speaker 1: is one of the best hysts is of all time. 1770 01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:42,479 Speaker 1: This has become the most requested clip. And have you 1771 01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,839 Speaker 1: seen this shit history. I had to start deleting messages 1772 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,160 Speaker 1: because people wanted it so badly. I don't know who 1773 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 1: this guy is. 1774 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 2: But look, that's the greatest k of all time. Loved 1775 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,800 Speaker 2: did he flip him off? He did? 1776 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,360 Speaker 1: He did the DS and then he ended the fight. 1777 01:23:59,240 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 2: Fuck you bro. 1778 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:05,120 Speaker 1: Oh my look, that's that's perfection. That's some video game shit. 1779 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:06,800 Speaker 1: That's the greatest thing I've ever seen. 1780 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,760 Speaker 2: That is amazing. Who is this guy? 1781 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta find out. I gotta legitimately 1782 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 1: was sent this two hundred times like it was out 1783 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,519 Speaker 1: of control. Shout out to our people there, Luke, we 1784 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,919 Speaker 1: love our viewers. We got a guy named John Littleton 1785 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,800 Speaker 1: at Littleton Underscore John on Instagram. He sent this in 1786 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,559 Speaker 1: on his vacation in Balla, North Wales. He's hanging out 1787 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,920 Speaker 1: with the guy in the right, the iron Man, Craig Pearl, 1788 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 1: doing some MK tip to tip action. Luke, your thoughts? 1789 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 2: Is this no Escape? 1790 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,120 Speaker 1: I love the the s eating grin on Littleton's face 1791 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,519 Speaker 1: there in the pink on the left. What do you 1792 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:53,439 Speaker 1: think happened after the camera guy turned it off? 1793 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 2: Luke? Whoa they had themselves a party. 1794 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 1: Or no Escape concert? Really the same thing. But shout 1795 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 1: out to our people, Luke. We closed with this. You 1796 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:06,840 Speaker 1: know amateur wrestling a lot more than me. You just 1797 01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 1: called Bo Nickel the top ten wrestler of all times. 1798 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 2: This movie is not what I did. 1799 01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:15,120 Speaker 1: But okay, the salami smash, Luke, do you get a 1800 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:21,120 Speaker 1: point for this? What sixty nine dudes? What are we 1801 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:21,639 Speaker 1: doing here? 1802 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 2: Luke? When that dude got off the mat, I'd be like, dude, 1803 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 2: I would have ordered you a roast beef sandwich. But 1804 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,360 Speaker 2: uh looks at me like, you're good. 1805 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,920 Speaker 1: Wow, tip to lip, tip on lift there, Luke. That 1806 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:33,679 Speaker 1: is not fat. 1807 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,439 Speaker 2: That that is something. That is something that when that 1808 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,720 Speaker 2: dude gets off the mat, if everyone doesn't have a joke, 1809 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,639 Speaker 2: it's like, hey man, you want to go to subway 1810 01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,240 Speaker 2: and get a five dollars foot low. Oh no, you're good, 1811 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:45,519 Speaker 2: You're good, You're good. I forgot about that. 1812 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,400 Speaker 1: Freshman my only experience with amateur wrestling freshman year of 1813 01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,760 Speaker 1: high school and gym class, Luke, I wrestled with Dave 1814 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 1: Pereira for like three minutes and then Coach Harrison blew 1815 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,800 Speaker 1: the whistle and he's like, what are you guys trying 1816 01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,639 Speaker 1: to have sex? And I was like, I'm never doing 1817 01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 1: this again. Okay, this is not for me. I'm sorry. 1818 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,439 Speaker 2: Look you all right, all right, any any combative sport 1819 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,840 Speaker 2: like this, it's going to happen. You know. I can 1820 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 2: tell you a bunch of different stories this one was 1821 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,040 Speaker 2: a little bit different. But like I remember the first 1822 01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,439 Speaker 2: time another dude sweat fell in my mouth, that was fun. 1823 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,920 Speaker 2: That was a that was a very gross day, dude. 1824 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,720 Speaker 1: That's that's second base where I come from, Luke. At least, Wow, I. 1825 01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,920 Speaker 2: Thought in your world that's when you spit in another 1826 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,559 Speaker 2: person's mouth. That's a little bit different. 1827 01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 1: All right. So that's it, Luke, you've seen it. That's great. 1828 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,280 Speaker 1: There's a great show today despite you and Jay trying 1829 01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 1: to get us out of here. 1830 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,960 Speaker 2: Wowka, all right, So it's time now for odds and ends. 1831 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,320 Speaker 2: We see what he got for us for odds and ends. 1832 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:39,200 Speaker 2: All right. 1833 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,200 Speaker 1: We talked about what has just been some bad boxing 1834 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,720 Speaker 1: judging lately, and I think every time we talk about that, Luke, 1835 01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,439 Speaker 1: we usually talk about you know, was the boxing judging 1836 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,960 Speaker 1: bad because the house fighter was set up to win? 1837 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:52,240 Speaker 2: Right? 1838 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,280 Speaker 1: Was there some impropriety here? I don't know. If you 1839 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,800 Speaker 1: saw your Dennis Ugas over the weekend, he went for 1840 01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 1: a secondary WBA welterweight title ain. That's a huge underdog 1841 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:06,240 Speaker 1: enable Ramos PBC on Fox. Fantastic performance from Ugas. Look, 1842 01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 1: copy box doesn't always tell the story, Luke, but he 1843 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,679 Speaker 1: landed double the punches of Ramos, more jabs, more power, punches, 1844 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:20,679 Speaker 1: everything for a better percentage. Again, double the punches. Marcos Viejas, 1845 01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,720 Speaker 1: the PBC on Fox scorer unofficial who does a great job, 1846 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 1: had it twelve to nothing. Ugas. I had it nine 1847 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:31,880 Speaker 1: to three. The judges Luke seven to five, Hugas seven 1848 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,439 Speaker 1: to five. Hugas and then seventy six year old doctor 1849 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:40,200 Speaker 1: loumeret an all time great referee and judge, won seventeen 1850 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:46,200 Speaker 1: to one to eleven for Ramos, a split decision went Luke. Look, 1851 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 1: I thought Hugas beat Sean Porter. I'm not gonna call 1852 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:49,720 Speaker 1: it to robbery. It was a close fight, but I 1853 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,640 Speaker 1: thought he won that. They almost straight up robbed this 1854 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,519 Speaker 1: man in a way that would not have made any 1855 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 1: sense sort of conspiracy theory when you came out here 1856 01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 1: and did your agism thing instead. I don't care if 1857 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,599 Speaker 1: BC's buddy down the road as eighty six title fights 1858 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 1: in his career. If he's seventy something and his score suck, 1859 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: get him out of there, Luke. I'm not here to 1860 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 1: tell you doctor Lumerett is too old, but that's one 1861 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,560 Speaker 1: of the worst scorecards I have ever seen. This was 1862 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,360 Speaker 1: a one sided, not particularly exciting fight. Wasn't a great 1863 01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,760 Speaker 1: fight on paper. Who got stood in front of him, 1864 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:23,920 Speaker 1: right in the pocket and just showed you why he's 1865 01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 1: one of the best welterweights in the world and he 1866 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,240 Speaker 1: had to bite his nails to get out of there. 1867 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 2: What the hell is going on, Luke Again? People don't 1868 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,120 Speaker 2: want to admit it, but the idea that tenure is 1869 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:40,920 Speaker 2: equivalent to ability as a judge or officiant in sports 1870 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:45,800 Speaker 2: is simply not true. The correlation is totally overstated, and 1871 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,679 Speaker 2: we need to have a understanding that at some point, 1872 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 2: if you've been doing it long enough, there's a decent 1873 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,599 Speaker 2: to even good chance you're not that good at it anymore. 1874 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,640 Speaker 1: It's not that you just Gramos landed two punches of 1875 01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,479 Speaker 1: note both times he wobbled ucas. Want to give them 1876 01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 1: both those rounds? You want to give them one more 1877 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,559 Speaker 1: for charity, that's fine. Lou Marrek gave the guy nine rounds. 1878 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a crime. It's a crime. Like when if 1879 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,160 Speaker 2: MMA fans are like, oh, close fight's a robbery, it's like, no, 1880 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:16,759 Speaker 2: it's just a close fight. This wasn't a close fight, really, 1881 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,280 Speaker 2: it wasn't. How do you how do you have nine 1882 01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:24,160 Speaker 2: rounds for the wrong guy. There's only one of two. 1883 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,840 Speaker 2: Explanation three. You're blind, you're corrupt, or you don't know 1884 01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,680 Speaker 2: what you're doing anymore. Take your pick. That's that's the 1885 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,280 Speaker 2: only corrupt as you can come to. 1886 01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. This ain't corrupt, right. If Ugus 1887 01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:36,960 Speaker 1: want to fight, he should know you'd be like, okay, 1888 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,960 Speaker 1: the house fighter won. Somebody mailed in a loaded check 1889 01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,439 Speaker 1: to the judge. This ain't that, Luke. I don't even 1890 01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 1: know how the other two judges had it seven to five. 1891 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:45,240 Speaker 1: Get the hell out of here. 1892 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,800 Speaker 2: I understand, I understand, all right. With that in mind, 1893 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 2: time from my odds and ends. So if you saw 1894 01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,679 Speaker 2: the UFC event over the weekend, you might have noted 1895 01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,280 Speaker 2: that there were not that many fights, only seven of them. 1896 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,920 Speaker 2: There haven't been that few on a UFC card since 1897 01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,559 Speaker 2: two thousand and five, when Diego Sanchez beat Nick Diaz. 1898 01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 2: By the way, maybe Diego Sanchez's best performance. He shredded 1899 01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,280 Speaker 2: the guard of Nick Diaz like it wasn't even a contest. 1900 01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:10,880 Speaker 2: But okay, we go back to Saturday. What the hell 1901 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:15,000 Speaker 2: happened basically during the course of the week, even before 1902 01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,760 Speaker 2: that and then just an hour or two before the 1903 01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 2: fights even it seemed like a bunch of fighters fell 1904 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,400 Speaker 2: out with COVID. Now, not all of them got it. 1905 01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,360 Speaker 2: In the case of Ricky Simone, his cornerman got it, 1906 01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,679 Speaker 2: but out of an abundance of caution, they just pulled 1907 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,680 Speaker 2: him off of it. Some of these got moved to 1908 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,639 Speaker 2: down the road, blah blah blah. But it only ended 1909 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,360 Speaker 2: up with seven. Now I've seen folks asking, what the 1910 01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,240 Speaker 2: hell is going on? How is there possible you can 1911 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,800 Speaker 2: only have seven? Well, here's I would say the good news. 1912 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,200 Speaker 2: The good news is at least they got screened before 1913 01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,720 Speaker 2: they even got a chance to fight. And this thing 1914 01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,960 Speaker 2: spread on fight night, that would be a disaster. We 1915 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:50,479 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that. It seems like. And 1916 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,960 Speaker 2: you guys know, I've been the guy. I've been like, yo, 1917 01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,240 Speaker 2: we need to take extra precautions. But even I would 1918 01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:59,120 Speaker 2: caution strongly here about what is actually happening. I'm not 1919 01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:03,720 Speaker 2: calling the test bad or good. I'm simply saying there 1920 01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:08,240 Speaker 2: is a decent to real possibility here that a lot 1921 01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,560 Speaker 2: of this, some of it a key portion I don't know, 1922 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 2: could be false positives, false negatives, one way or the 1923 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:19,160 Speaker 2: other testing is a It's imprecise in many ways, depending 1924 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,040 Speaker 2: on the kind of test you get. It could be 1925 01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,600 Speaker 2: a quality issue. If the UFC can do anything in 1926 01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,799 Speaker 2: terms of excuse me, establishing a bubble in Las Vegas, 1927 01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,800 Speaker 2: which I've told they're not really doing with some of 1928 01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,439 Speaker 2: these hotels, that could solve some of the problem. So 1929 01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,519 Speaker 2: what I would say is, before anyone jumps to this 1930 01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,360 Speaker 2: conclusion like, oh my god, how much is going on? Yes, 1931 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,280 Speaker 2: the UFC could be talking to us with much more 1932 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,080 Speaker 2: transparency about what they're doing and not doing. But even 1933 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:48,400 Speaker 2: I would caution strongly about reaching a clear conclusion when 1934 01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:50,880 Speaker 2: we know there are a lot of variables that go 1935 01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,720 Speaker 2: into the accuracy of testing, both before and after, either 1936 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,760 Speaker 2: with a positive or a negative. So so pump the 1937 01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,000 Speaker 2: brakes on that a little bit until we can get 1938 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:00,800 Speaker 2: more information. But I would call up on the UFC 1939 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 2: to explain, how is it possible you can have twelve 1940 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,559 Speaker 2: thirteen fights and you end up with seven? Is there 1941 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,320 Speaker 2: something you could be doing differently? The answer is probably 1942 01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,280 Speaker 2: yes in that regard, but what exactly I don't know. 1943 01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,320 Speaker 1: We've heard Dana say they're going to build hotels next 1944 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,559 Speaker 1: to the pis It's not a bad idea, Luke. 1945 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,479 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I said this before. I'm not opposed to 1946 01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 2: the Fighter Hotel in any respect. It just shreds arguments 1947 01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,320 Speaker 2: about how much money you have? Right? But is it 1948 01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,600 Speaker 2: a good idea on its own? It might actually be 1949 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,760 Speaker 2: It might actually be a great idea, to be quite 1950 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,200 Speaker 2: honest with you, because you're losing all this inventory. 1951 01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:36,639 Speaker 4: Very true. 1952 01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,560 Speaker 1: You and I two questions. One, how much sex do 1953 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: you think is being had in the NBA bubble in 1954 01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:42,240 Speaker 1: Orlando right now? 1955 01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,800 Speaker 2: Well, I've seen family members starting to show up, so 1956 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,360 Speaker 2: if you count that, plus you know the random visitors 1957 01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,679 Speaker 2: who might be finding their way in there, probably a lot. 1958 01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,840 Speaker 1: The groupies, the ring rats. Number two, You and I 1959 01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:57,560 Speaker 1: are going to be spending basically a week in the 1960 01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,920 Speaker 1: Mohegan bubble ahead of the Charlo Double Paper. 1961 01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm so excited about that. 1962 01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:03,479 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do together, Luke? 1963 01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:09,080 Speaker 2: We can call Jay and we can you know, we 1964 01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,360 Speaker 2: can reconstitute no Escape. 1965 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah I can't. I can't. Do they have alcohol in 1966 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:18,240 Speaker 1: that bubble? I'll there's some drunken no Escape yea. 1967 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,680 Speaker 2: Honestly, Jay, do you know the Jay You've been in 1968 01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:22,640 Speaker 2: the bubble? Are we going to have access to like 1969 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 2: the gym or the bar or both. I have not 1970 01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:30,040 Speaker 2: been in the bubble, Jay, we can't hear you I have. 1971 01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,600 Speaker 2: I have not entered the bubble yet. I just know 1972 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,240 Speaker 2: of those who have been in the bubble. 1973 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 4: Food is a plenty. The gym might be an issue. 1974 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,040 Speaker 4: I know the fighters only get an hour a day. 1975 01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's open publicly. 1976 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,960 Speaker 1: Luke, that's why Benavitaz didn't make weight if he didn't 1977 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:47,320 Speaker 1: have as much access to the sauna. 1978 01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:47,800 Speaker 2: He says. 1979 01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:51,040 Speaker 1: So you're gonna be You're gonna be very thick on camera, Luke. 1980 01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:55,080 Speaker 1: But we do have many big surprises that week. If 1981 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,880 Speaker 1: people want to call that our launch week, MK Daily, 1982 01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:01,719 Speaker 1: that'll be it. We got many surprise and it hasn't 1983 01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,800 Speaker 1: been formally announced yet, but you're not We're gonna play 1984 01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:05,240 Speaker 1: a pretty big role on pay per view night. So 1985 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm super excited about that. 1986 01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,400 Speaker 2: I'm so excited about that. 1987 01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:12,519 Speaker 1: So you know, we might be judging some fights if 1988 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:13,519 Speaker 1: this keeps up, maybe you. 1989 01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,800 Speaker 2: Know, I might have to have to show these dumbasses 1990 01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,519 Speaker 2: how it's done. But you know, it's the discussion for 1991 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:22,760 Speaker 2: a different time. Okay, Well, let's remind folks BC. If 1992 01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,240 Speaker 2: you want to get more of MK why wouldn't you. 1993 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,160 Speaker 2: You can get the video thumbs up, you can hit 1994 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,479 Speaker 2: that subscribe button. You can go to the Showtime store. 1995 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,840 Speaker 2: You can go to store dot show s ho dot com. 1996 01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,760 Speaker 2: You can get all that wonderful morning combat gear that's 1997 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,920 Speaker 2: available for everybody. And by the way, high quality gear 1998 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,760 Speaker 2: at that Showtime does nothing low quality. So there's that 1999 01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:42,920 Speaker 2: if you like Showtime. 2000 01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:46,280 Speaker 1: Also, if you're on the fence about Showtime, Luke, I've been. 2001 01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,400 Speaker 1: I got the Showtime app on my Apple TV. There's 2002 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:52,519 Speaker 1: some badass documentaries on there. I watched the Jeff beck one, 2003 01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,800 Speaker 1: the Sugar Night one talking you know, he's drunk, he's 2004 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:57,679 Speaker 1: throwing up on the side of the road, talking about 2005 01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:01,360 Speaker 1: Tupac being dead. Have you watched the Rick Rubin one, 2006 01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,479 Speaker 1: the Shangri La music documentary series. Look, I'm here to 2007 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,559 Speaker 1: pump some me some Showtime. Oh and check out our 2008 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,679 Speaker 1: Outcry interviews if you have. If you haven't, by the way, yeah, 2009 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,800 Speaker 1: Greg Kelly. And also the fine director there, Well, what's 2010 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:14,360 Speaker 1: that guy's name? 2011 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,280 Speaker 2: I forgot I've forgotten. By the way, if you want 2012 01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,280 Speaker 2: to see them with the show we did with Scott 2013 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:21,680 Speaker 2: Cocher and Maro Ronalo, the Morning Combat Strikeforce Classics. All 2014 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,360 Speaker 2: of those are on the Showtime Anytime app as well, 2015 01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,439 Speaker 2: So you can go to Showtime dot com try it 2016 01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,080 Speaker 2: free for thirty days. If you like it, keep it 2017 01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,240 Speaker 2: if that pounds sand but we are on there. I 2018 01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,560 Speaker 2: checked that out. BC. You think my dad has the 2019 01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,200 Speaker 2: Showtime Anytime app? What do you think? 2020 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably old school enough. He probably has all 2021 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:38,879 Speaker 1: those type of old school. 2022 01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:39,240 Speaker 2: Channels like that. 2023 01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,519 Speaker 1: Yeah he doesn't, he doesn't. Who do you think is 2024 01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:45,599 Speaker 1: on the Showtime Mount Rushmore? This the Mount Rushmore Showtime? 2025 01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:54,040 Speaker 1: I got Floyd Mayweather Emmanuel right, yeah, I guess Yeah, 2026 01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:56,600 Speaker 1: she was, Luke, she was. 2027 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:57,439 Speaker 2: She really was. 2028 01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just gonna leave. I'm gonna stop it right there, right, 2029 01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:01,559 Speaker 1: Mike run. 2030 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll leave that up to somebody else who is 2031 01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,680 Speaker 2: more capable of answering that. Okay, we still have more 2032 01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,000 Speaker 2: content coming your way this week. I'll have my dissected 2033 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,240 Speaker 2: up this week. It'll be fun. So yeah, thank you 2034 01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:13,080 Speaker 2: guys so much for watch. 2035 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,640 Speaker 1: You got a live chat for people, Luke, I do have. 2036 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,200 Speaker 2: A live chat. We're gonna move that. I'm not sure 2037 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,439 Speaker 2: exactly when we're gonna do that, but it's gonna move. 2038 01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:22,160 Speaker 2: But for now, I'll keep it on Fridays. 2039 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, your live chat got a little spicy. I 2040 01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,360 Speaker 1: was like putting the popcorn in the last week talking 2041 01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:32,120 Speaker 1: about your giving career advice. You're sending other people in 2042 01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,040 Speaker 1: the business to hell. It was, it was, it was rich. 2043 01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:34,519 Speaker 1: I loved it. 2044 01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:36,680 Speaker 2: You know, people ask questions, I answer them for the 2045 01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,400 Speaker 2: most part. Okay, so there are we are on social media. 2046 01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,800 Speaker 2: You can follow us all there on Instagram and on 2047 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:43,760 Speaker 2: Twitter and of course, oh by the way, we have 2048 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,000 Speaker 2: a Twitter now for morning Combat. At Morning Combat. We 2049 01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:47,600 Speaker 2: should add that. 2050 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely go there now. It's yeah, we're loading up. 2051 01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,360 Speaker 1: Look when we when we I was about to say 2052 01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,000 Speaker 1: something gross backs, and when we when we call them, 2053 01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,000 Speaker 1: when we knock on the door, like I think you 2054 01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:00,599 Speaker 1: hear us knock and I think we're coming in. We're 2055 01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,559 Speaker 1: gonna overwhelm you with content once this thing gets gets 2056 01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:03,920 Speaker 1: full on. 2057 01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:05,960 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, right, very good. 2058 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,680 Speaker 1: Like like we will be your your main squeeze in 2059 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,160 Speaker 1: the combat game. You know, all those other you don't 2060 01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:13,400 Speaker 1: need them, You don't need them anymore. 2061 01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:17,200 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, with that in mind, yes, with 2062 01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:18,320 Speaker 2: that in mind, where you going? 2063 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,360 Speaker 1: Look, I got nowhere to go right now, bro. 2064 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,840 Speaker 2: Say I believe it or not, I have things I 2065 01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,000 Speaker 2: have to do related to this job. So how about that? 2066 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,000 Speaker 2: All right? With that in mind? For Brian Campbell, I 2067 01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,040 Speaker 2: am Luke Thomas. Thank you guys so much for watching 2068 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,880 Speaker 2: Things to Showtime in Molca and everybody else involves CBS 2069 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,559 Speaker 2: Sports as well. We will see you next weekend. Until then, 2070 01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:37,679 Speaker 2: may all of your gains be loyal